1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: It is Monday, August thirty one. This is Jack Warse. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Jack Wars Happy Hour was presented by Jet Home Loans 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: and now the real reason Chris con b Sally needs 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: to work from home. Jake Peace, shadride first, don't hear anything, 5 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: Christo only filly and we have a program. Good day. 6 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Uh for that straight of unique in back pay, we'll 7 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: go around the National Football League answer some social questions. Man, 8 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: do we have a lot to go over to? Day guys? Pete, 9 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: good afternoon, but what's up? What's up? Fellas? I'm good, 10 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Pete very talking today? Man, you're really are You're really 11 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: into the show? I can tell you what I mean. 12 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: Are you upset about? Are you upset about Leonard leaving? 13 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean? What's got the cat got the tongue? I 14 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: mean what you are? Where am I listen? I am 15 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: all over the I'm worldwide? Baby? Where are you? You're 16 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: in a car? I mean driving? I have a driver 17 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: right now driving me from one function to another? Did 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: you get to huh? Did you get let go too? 19 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: Are you anyway another? Didn't? I didn't get cut. I 20 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: didn't get traded, even though you'd like me too, Because 21 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: make your job Easier is logged him in now on 22 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: Mondays with us since the Tony got traded or you 23 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: didn't hear we traded logs for the case of gatoring. 24 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: He's out. Wow, it's like the most extreme close up 25 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: of Tony we've ever had too. It's incredible, it's amazing. 26 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: He's in a car. I'm in the car. I'm driving. 27 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: I'll be in front of my computer. I got I 28 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: got running late and uh and so I said, you 29 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: know what, I'm a pro. Just do it from the car. 30 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Now you'll see me. You'll see me walk in here 31 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: pretty soon. This is like live This is real life. 32 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: You know they talked about reality TV. That's not reality TV. 33 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: This is reality TV. This is the day in the 34 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: life of Tony Boselli. Nobody wants to kill down with 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: a camera. Believe me, no way, What are you talking about? 36 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see your life. I'm getting my driver 37 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: is filming me right now. Is it the same same 38 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: driver that gave you the coffee a couple of weeks ago. No, 39 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: it's not the same driver gave me coffee? Is he 40 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: is he also now your private Is he getting into 41 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: your private plane to go somewhere too, like, oh, I 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: wish you know what, though, I wish the people are 43 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: the people are with just left in a private plane, 44 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: not me. I'm going commercial, so you're actually in another city. 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: It's basically yeah, wow, it's amazing. I'm amazingly all right, 46 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: let's get into it. Obviously, let's start off with the 47 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: Leonard Burnette News this morning waved by the Jaguars. Let's 48 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: hear what Maron had to say about it. The reasoning 49 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: behind waving and running really just trying to to to 50 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: take the team and put the best team together for 51 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: what we've seen in our practices. So, you know, at 52 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I just felt that was 53 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: the best decision for us as a team. I think 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: it gives us the best opportunity with the skill sets 55 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: that we had with the other players in there. Um, 56 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: I just thought that that was the best for the team. 57 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: And doing it now, Uh, we exhausted, you know, all 58 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: trade opportunities. We weren't able to get anything there. Um, 59 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: So I just felt that, you know, now we can 60 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, work on the team and the plan and 61 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: get ourselves ready for the season. A little bit later, 62 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: more from the head coach on this guy. You know, Hey, 63 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: this is this is one where it's complaining it They 64 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: saw a few weeks of training camp and figured, hey, 65 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: this is not the type of running back that they wanted, 66 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: this new offense, this at least the way they've described. Well, 67 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: then they they kind of shamed them on the way 68 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: out the door by saying they couldn't get uh to 69 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: the sandwich for him in the trade. My god, they 70 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: really have to do they really have to do that. Um, 71 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't fit. They don't think he fits. Now whether 72 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: he does or not has to be decided. But I'm 73 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be decided because they decided it already. But 74 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: they liked their younger backs. And we all know how 75 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: I feel about running backs. You draft them, you develop them, 76 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: you run them into the ground, and draft another one. 77 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised by this, and nor should. I mean, 78 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: maybe the timing is a little surprising because maybe you 79 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: thought it would happen earlier in the year, the fact 80 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: that it happened shouldn't be a surprising. Yeah, Pete, I 81 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: would agree. I would agree with you in the sense 82 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: of not surprising at all. Timing maybe a little bit, 83 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: but overall that he is not gonna be on this team. Um, 84 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: that's not a surprise. I don't think they shamed him 85 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: at all. I said, here, here's the reality. Doug Moron 86 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: has asked the question, why didn't you trade him? What 87 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: is he supposed to say? Nobody wanted him, nobody was 88 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: willing to give us anything in compensation, so we let 89 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: him go. Now someone will sign him for a much 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: lower price tag. Absolutely, but I think, um, I think 91 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into it. I think it 92 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: started his rookie year where there was some off the 93 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: field issues and went into a really bad tough uh 94 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: second year, got better last year. Um, but I just 95 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: think there's like a lot of stuff that just all 96 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: added up. And more than anything, I think it was 97 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: to play on the field. I think if you look 98 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: at Leonard, Leonard for Nette is a guy who needs 99 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: is better behind a fullback in a power, downhill running 100 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: system that not many teams by the way run today. Um, 101 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: and what the Jaguars want to do is just not 102 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: a great fit. And it wasn't like he I mean, look, 103 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: he was okay last year, Don't get me wrong. I 104 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: think for his from his standards, he had a pretty 105 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: good season. But you're right, he doesn't fit with a 106 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: lot of offenses because it takes him a half a 107 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: week to get to the line of scrimmage. I mean, 108 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: I just don't think he's like they're running his own 109 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: scheme now, right, so that means you gotta get wide 110 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: and go or cut back off the backside. He just 111 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: doesn't fit with him. It's not what he does. Yeah, 112 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not. I mean you say, I think 113 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: you said it right. I mean he is. Um, he's 114 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: not a great change of direction guy. But we said it. 115 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean I said it from David One. I mean 116 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: I thought, um when he came, when we draft him, 117 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: he was not the best back in the draft. I 118 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: would pick two or three ahead of him because in 119 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: today's league, and this is where one one area that 120 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: Pete and I agree on, you have to make people miss. 121 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: You have to be able to play in space, and 122 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: you have to uh when you're one on one of 123 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: the unblocked defender, which a lot of times you're going 124 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: to be into the way defense is played today with 125 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: the eight guy in the box, that you have to 126 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: be able to make that guy missed because he's gonna 127 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: be unbarred. And I just don't think Leonard Fett's that 128 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: type of running back. I mean, I'm not saying he 129 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 1: is um a bad player or a bad back. He's 130 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: just the style he plays in. It's just I don't 131 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: think a lot of teams played today that way. No. 132 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: I I used to call Toby Gerhardt the magic Man, 133 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: but I called Leonard for Nette the magic man too, 134 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: because he could turn uh two yard run into a 135 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: five yard run. But he could also turn a five 136 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: yard a sixty yard run into a five yard run, 137 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: because that's not who he is. If the hole was there, 138 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: I always go back to the Pittsburgh play. It was 139 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: a two thousand seventeen Tony I think with a guard 140 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: kicked out. I think it was a j can kicked 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: out the end or a linebacker and he went ninety yards. 142 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Silly could have run for thirty on through that hole. No, listen, 143 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: when there is when it is a well blocked play 144 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: and there's a good hole, Leonard for Net it's a 145 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: good back. I mean, he is a fast, powerful human being, 146 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Who can get downhill, He 147 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: gets going, and he is tough. He's gonna be physical. 148 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: He'll run through arm tackles, and he's a physical cat, 149 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: but he's not gonna make a lot of guys miss 150 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: one on one. And I think it takes him a 151 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: while to get to the back side. I think it 152 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: takes a lot of steps to get there. And I 153 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: just think of today's game, especially the style of the 154 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: Jaguars play, it's it's a it's a different type of back. 155 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, guys, how about the timing 156 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: of this I should have happened earlier. Is this the 157 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: right time to do it or does that really matter? Well, 158 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: here's my thing with it. I think they wanted to 159 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: get rid of him from the beginning off season. I 160 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: don't think that. I think they wanted to trade him. 161 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they could. Um. I say that, But 162 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: at the other side of my mouth, I go that, 163 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: why didn't they address the position in the off season 164 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: better or in the draft and not up front, but 165 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: like a third, fourth, fifth rounder, Why didn't they spend 166 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: more in free agency and bring more guys in a 167 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: volume of guys. All they really did is bring in, 168 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, back in draft guys and Chris Thompson. I mean, 169 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: they really didn't address the position, and so that's the 170 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: only surprising thing to me, JP is not that they 171 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: got rid of them. I think they wanted to move 172 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: on from Leonard from Nett starting in January, that they 173 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: didn't do it either sooner and add pieces around into 174 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that room. Um, So it's not that he's it's the 175 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: timing and the fact that lack of other investments that 176 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: they made their Yeah, but they liked the guy. The 177 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: young guys too. You know, you keep hearing good things 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: about the young guy. You guys have been around what 179 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: what what young guys tell me? The young guys you're 180 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: talking about now, I I don't think that's accurate. Welly, 181 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: you don't think you don't think I haven't heard. I 182 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: have not heard anything about them liking Armstead. Ziga was 183 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: a guy that came at the end of the last year, 184 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: was like the eight T throwning back and then you know, 185 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: bigcause of injuries and everything else, ends up playing and 186 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: and played fine. I just haven't heard. I mean, j P. Again, 187 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: we're not around there as much as we went in 188 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: the pass, but I have not heard anything glowing about 189 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: any of these backs. Well, I'll say I mean that 190 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: was the explanation today is that they liked the skill 191 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: set of these backs and which one so like? They 192 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: like the rookie for Illinois stay James Robinson is one 193 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: of those guys. Chris Thompson, of course, brought in free agency, 194 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: the backfield option, more receiving yards and rushing yards in 195 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: his career. But um, that was your explanation today. You 196 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: know that's all we're doing. You find you can find 197 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: Look the Chargers found Eckler, right, I mean you can 198 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: find guys. And I was, did you go to the 199 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: scrimmage on Saturday? Either want you to see it? Yeah? 200 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: Did Robinson look good the scrimmage? Because somebody said did 201 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: a couple of moments I saw Tony? Well, first of all, 202 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: you're not tackling. I was, like discounted running backs and 203 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: these things like so much. But you can see if 204 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: he can pop through a hole or cut back or 205 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: they look good. Yeah, but Leonard for that looks good 206 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: in those things A lot of times. I mean a 207 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: lot of backs look good because you know you can 208 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: kind of play too and touch. I mean it's hard 209 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: to tell. I mean a lot of it. You better 210 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: block well in those situations because you know, if you 211 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: don't block. Well, there's nothing there and you're not gonna 212 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: be able to break a tackle because it's blown dead. Here. 213 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, though, Leonard Fornette was not gonna 214 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: get twenty five carries or twenty carries in this offense 215 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: the way, So no, I agree. Why people you know 216 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: he's never I mean the teammates didn't gravitate to him. 217 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: He was never. He's part of the past. He's part 218 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: of that regime from the oh set, from the seventeen 219 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: team that wasn't as a master. They all got full 220 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: of himselves. You don't need that. You've got a bunch 221 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: of young guys on that team. There's no need for 222 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: it to keep him they want They won five games 223 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: last year and what a six years? They got eleven 224 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: wins with him in the last two years. What's the 225 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: difference to get rid of them? You save money, you 226 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: get more money for the calf. I don't think anyone 227 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: on this show is to argue with you. I'm not 228 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: sure who you're arguing with. National media has piled it 229 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: on him for a pile on today. I know you're traveling, 230 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: you probably why, Like, what are they piling on? What 231 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: are they saying? Obviously they don't watch the game taper. 232 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: They don't watch like what actually is real what they say? 233 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: You know what it is, Tony, and you know this 234 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: because you've played in Jacksonville. It's always names over game. 235 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: They don't understand that that's his name is bigger than 236 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: his game. And so national media, Oh my god, Letard 237 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: for Nette got released. Big deal, Big deal was it? 238 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: You know what it is? It's a big deal because 239 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: it's a blown draft pick and they could have drafted 240 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback at that spot pot and you don't take 241 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: a running back that high. That's why it's a big deal. 242 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: But I always go back, and I said this on 243 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: one of our shows today. You know who wanted him. 244 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: We all know who wanted him. The same guy who 245 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: wanted to draft large Phillips second overall, the same guy 246 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: who tried to trade nine and to go get the 247 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: big back, Curtis Enis Tom wanted him. But that offensive 248 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: style is no longer relevant in the NFL. You don't 249 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: need a big back anymore. You don't need that guy. 250 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: So that that's why it's a blown draft pick. That's 251 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: why it's a big deal from a current football standpoint, 252 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: not a big deal though, yeah, you said it perfectly. 253 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: I mean, but part of it. I always go back 254 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: to this though everyone loves to just blame TC for 255 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: that pick. You know, it's like the easy thing to do, like, oh, 256 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: it's TC's fault, and no one else he's gone to 257 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: like it's all shake our heads and look the other way. Um. 258 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: It's also I think it was a commentation of that. 259 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell was convinced that Blake Portals was the franchise 260 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: quarterback and he wasn't ready to move on. I mean, 261 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: if you think back, I mean David, you know, and 262 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: we're all there and and Dave was adamant that Blake 263 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: was the guy. And I wonder what would have happened 264 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: if if when Tom came in, if if Dave was saying, 265 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Blake's not our guy, we need a quarterback, would have 266 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: been a different conversation. Would you have gone somewhere else? 267 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: Because the way I remember that off season, and both 268 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: of you guys are there and JP were there every day, 269 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: is that they were convinced they had a quarterback in 270 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: Blake Portals. And because of that, that that drove everything else. 271 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: And so everyone says it's Tom's fault they didn't get 272 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: DeShawn Wats or Patrick Mahomes. Ultimately it is because he 273 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: has the final say of the draft, or he used 274 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: to have the final stay in the draft. But Dave 275 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: was also I'm not saying he wanted Leonard for that, 276 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: but he didn't want to go quarterback. No, just he 277 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: he was convinced that he was convinced that it was 278 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: that Blake Portos was the guy. So I always go 279 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: back to the story, I know, but hold on when 280 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: we had these conversations, I'm always like, yeah, that's only 281 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: part of the story that Tom wanted Leonard. Well you're 282 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: you're correct. And by the way, I don't think Tom 283 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: was ever convinced Blake Portos was a good quarterback, to 284 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: be honestly, because I had conversations with him about it. Um, 285 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: But then why then, why do you go with the 286 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: Why do you stick with him? I don't that, I 287 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: don't know, I have no no, But I remember, even 288 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: when Blake was still there, I don't think he ever 289 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: thought he was that good? Why do you stick with him? 290 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: I think he was convinced to stick with him, But 291 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: be you still okay, let's just say they keep playing 292 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: you still can't draft a running back number four. Overall, 293 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: you just Pete, Pete, you're missing my point. I agree 294 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: with you on that. My point is that's only half 295 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: the story, right, because if Dave Calwell back then would 296 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: have said, which all of us, by the way, we're saying, 297 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: and we get me and you, Pete, get plenty of 298 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: them wrong, but we got that one right, that Blake 299 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: was not the quarterback. Well, then you naturally go get 300 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback when you're drafted number four. And I heard 301 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: if Tom loved Deshaun Watson if he was going to 302 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: take a quarterback, So I mean, you know, things could 303 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: have changed. But again, Dave liked portals somehow cofin was 304 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: convinced to keep them. But once you're convinced to keep them, 305 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: which is the mistake in the first part, then you 306 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: gotta not draft of running back at number four. Yeah. 307 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: I guess My point is they play together, they're both 308 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: equally led to the decision of how you got picking 309 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: winning for not a four. That's all. 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Um, you know, and I 378 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: think in this situation, I haven't spoken to the on, 379 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: but you know, obviously if if he's if he's happy, 380 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: then I'm happy for him, you know. Um, you know, 381 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: the team feels good, you know, with the compensation, So 382 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm happy for them. And you know, you you just 383 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: keep going forward. Welcome back, long together. News of the day, 384 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: of course, get get got ways trying to the Minnesota 385 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: Vikings made an official by the team at two o'clock today, 386 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: the Jags in or Tremor, receiving one second round pick 387 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: and two conditional fifth round pick. He is that enough 388 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: or was this the deal that they just had? It's 389 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: enough because that's all they got You know, everybody out 390 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: there who says, oh, he's gonna get there, they got 391 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: a first round, could have got a first round. And 392 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill my buddy Jason morcanfora because he keeps 393 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: saying that if they had done it earlier in April, 394 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: before the draft, they would have got more compensation. They tried, 395 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: they had nothing. Nobody wanted to give up a first 396 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: round pick for him, didn't couldn't get one. So in 397 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: the end it came down to two things. Either you 398 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 1: you take his bluff and say he's not you know, 399 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: you think he's gonna come back and and come back 400 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: and play for the eighteen million, which was a possibility, 401 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: or ped on him for a two out of five 402 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: and get him out of the building. And you take 403 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: that money off the books, and now you have almost 404 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: nine You have ninety million dollars because you can carry 405 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,719 Speaker 1: that over, and you have a lot of it over. 406 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: You have ninety million dollars in cap room next year. 407 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: So I think in the end there wasn't a great 408 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: offer for him. Hey, the Raiders had a first two 409 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: first round picks and they need a pass rusher and 410 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: they didn't even they didn't sniff on it. So I 411 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: think they got what they could period And is it 412 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: a great haul for a pass rusher? Look at the 413 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: history here. Think about what the Texans got for Clowney. 414 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: They got a three and paid eight million dollars to 415 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: get his contract off. They paid actually paid eight million 416 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: dollars his contract off the books, So I think it's 417 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: fair compensation. I would have held onto him and made 418 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: him play because I think you would eventually came in 419 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: and play. But what happens if he's not playing because 420 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: Asan and Alan getting repped and he's in a contract 421 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: year and wants to be on the field more. How 422 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: will that play? How would that play out? So in 423 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: the end, it was the wise thing to do. So 424 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: let me bring I kind of looked at it like 425 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: in three I'm gonna break down at three different First, 426 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: let me say that I'm gonna miss you on. UM. 427 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: I like John the person. I think he's a pro. 428 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: I like how he approaches the game. I think he prepares. Um. 429 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: John and I were able to have some really honest 430 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: conversations um when he was here, you know, and I 431 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: like John Dames a straight shooter, and it was he 432 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: was okay with having conversations like what I thought about 433 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: his run defense and like how I you know, different 434 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: things like that, like he was like a and I 435 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: always appreciate that about Yan and I exchanged the dams 436 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: with them afterwards and wishing them the best, because I 437 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: really do wish John the best, like I want him 438 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: to be successful. Like I don't like how it ended. 439 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: I don't like that he's not a Jaguar. I don't 440 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: like any of that. But as a pro and as 441 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: a person and somebody I'll be rooting for when we're not, 442 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: like I'll root for Yon. Like there's other guys who've 443 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: left I don't root for because they I don't like 444 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: how they left and I don't really like care for 445 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: how they did it. I'm not gonna say any Nates. 446 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: I will will I will root for y'all. I don't 447 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: root for him because, like you know what, like it 448 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: didn't end grade. I didn't like him and Tony going 449 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: back and forth. I didn't think that was a good look. 450 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: But overall, like the kid loves football. He loves ball. 451 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: And if people tell you when I was a player, 452 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: like like if you love ball, like you're like, we're 453 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: gonna get along because I love ball and uh, and 454 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: so that's the one. Um. You know, as far as 455 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: what we got for him, I think what happened there 456 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: is you know, remember back when we got rid of 457 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: jail and the organization was applauded for waiting and not 458 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: going off there asking price, and they said, you know, 459 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna get two ones or we're not doing it, 460 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: and we'll make him sit here and make him just suffer. 461 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: And they ended up getting it, and everyone said, look 462 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: at that patience and you stuck to the guns, and 463 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: they got it. And I think they tried to do 464 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: the same thing with jan in the hall just never came. 465 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: And because the criticism I heard is like why didn't 466 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: they do it earlier? Because I think they said, we're 467 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna use the same strategy it worked, and we're gonna 468 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: try to see if we can get a bigger hall, 469 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: and it never came. I think it got to the 470 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: point where like, we're not getting it, so let's just 471 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: take what we can get, and as long as it's 472 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: more than a three, it's worthwhile because they would have 473 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: gotten they would have got a three form as a 474 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: compensitory pick. If you've gone a free agency and so 475 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, so I I get the timing. I think 476 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: they didn't work the way they thought. They thought they 477 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: get more. The market wasn't there. The final thing is 478 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: this what bothers me and I think this is his 479 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: organization where we had to sit back and like do 480 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: like an honest reflection. A good young player who loves 481 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: football was willing to wanted to leave this organization so 482 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: bad that you can make seven million dollars less a 483 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: year five point eight twelve, he's gonna get twelve millet 484 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: compared to seventeen point eight um. By the way, Minnesota 485 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: has the third highest tax state tax rate in the country. 486 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: That's another that's another one point two million. You had 487 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: five point plus one point two. That's seven million dollars less. 488 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: He is willing to take not to play in Jacksonville. 489 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: That's a bad decision. Well, I like, I love John. 490 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: I would for seven million, seven million dollar delta. You 491 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: can beat me with a baseball bat for the year 492 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: playing offensive line and and you know, and call me 493 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: every name of the book and call me a bad whatever, 494 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: I'll go play football. And I don't that one. I 495 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: don't understand, and I think it's I don't know he 496 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: got bad advice from his agent from the beginning. I 497 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: agree with you. I agree with you from that standpoint. 498 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: But but here's my thing, Like I look at the 499 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: both sides, like, yeah, I like Yeng Like seven million bucks. 500 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: You like, that's a lot of money. Are you that 501 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: unhappy you can't suck it up for one year it's 502 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: for seven million dollars? Or does he look at it 503 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: and say, I can go to Minnesota playing Mike Zimmers 504 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: defense opposite to Neil Hunter and make that money back 505 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: up again. And that's another thing he might and that's 506 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: a great point. Or he says, you know what, I'm 507 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: willing to take seven million dollars less because one, I 508 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: don't want to be there anymore. I don't like being there, 509 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: and I think I have a better chance of performing 510 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: and a Zimmer defense with a bunch of talent around me, 511 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: and an offense as a quarterback that's gonna get We're 512 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna have played with the lead. Hey, we like living 513 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: in Florida, But if you put me in Siberia for 514 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: a year and gave me seven million dollars, I'd be 515 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: more than willing to do it. But you know what 516 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: I mean, People this is for the organization. That's my point. 517 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: That's what bothers me, because I love this organization and 518 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: like that, just like bothers me that the narrative is like, 519 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: guys are willing to pay play for a lot less 520 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: money if they don't have to play here. But what 521 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: what bad? What? What? What was? What is what issue? Tom? 522 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: Tom supposedly had a lot to do with it? Well, 523 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 1: I don't love Tom had a lot to do with 524 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: the yawn stuff. Yeah, yeah. I think it started with 525 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: Yon is that he felt like they paid other people 526 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: I Eat, Myles, Jack and others and didn't pay him 527 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: and he was more productive than they were. And he's like, 528 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: wait a second, now, he's never I'm just this is 529 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: what I gave him. He's never said this. But then 530 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 1: Miles contract come after he turned down. It was right, 531 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: It was right during, It was right in the middle 532 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: of it all. Um, it was right in the middle 533 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: of it all. And I think he basically said, like, listen, 534 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: I want to get paid what other double digit passes 535 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: restaurants are getting and we didn't do that. And on 536 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: a pretty proud guy and a pretty principal guy, a 537 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: pretty hard headed guy. All these things i'd say, if 538 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: you're sitting on the call with us right here, and 539 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: he basically dug his feet and said, you know what, Okay, 540 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: you can kiss my rear end. I'm gonna play hard, 541 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: I'll be at pro, but I'm never gonna do anything 542 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: else for you. And I think he just made his 543 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: mind up. That was it. I just I still think 544 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: he got bad advice from his age, and he should 545 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: have taken the eighteen and a half million dollar a 546 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: year deal that they offered him when it went in 547 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: that and in that negotiation it went bad in large 548 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: part because Tom, you know, basically dissed him. Tom kept 549 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: pointing out that he's not very good against the run, 550 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: and he took it as a personal thing from what 551 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: I heard, and and and so once it went bad, 552 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: then the agent kept banging on him and banging on 553 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: him and banging on him. You know, you gotta get 554 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: out of there. You gotta get out of there. And 555 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: even after he fired the agent, I think he's his 556 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: whole mindset was I have to get out of there. 557 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: It's it's our But you're like Tony, it's a bad 558 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: look for the organization. So out, let's just say Gardner 559 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: Minshew throws for yards and thirty touch thirty three touchdown 560 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: passes this year and then doesn't like his contractors. He 561 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: go and say, I'm sending out or you're gonna trade me. 562 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bad look to give in, uh 563 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: to two different players because they gave him the Jalen 564 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: Rampy now get great. They got a great haul for 565 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. But ultimately on the surface, it looks like 566 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: they gave in, which is why I hear Shot Khan 567 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: didn't want to give in on this one, but he 568 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: almost had to in the end. I mean, well, and 569 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: then it went bad. I mean then, I mean going 570 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: back and forth with the owner. I mean Tony Kahn 571 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: is the owner, he owns the team. I mean Shot 572 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: is the principal owner, but he's the ownership group. I 573 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: mean Shot, I mean Tony Khan not a good look. 574 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: If you're a player going back and forth with the owner, 575 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, taking shots on Twitter. And if you're getting 576 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: into it with Tony Kahn, you get into it with 577 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: then you're getting into it. One of the most nicest 578 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: human beings. I'm like none, and but I think, yeah, 579 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: let's what makes part of what makes youn a really 580 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: like good football player. He's mean, he's tough, he's nasty's competitive, 581 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: and he's hard headed. Like he gets in his mind 582 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: like it's me against the world, and if you're in 583 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: the world on the other side of him, it's like 584 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: a death match with this kid. And I love that 585 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: and I love it too, but you have to separate 586 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: it off the field, and I think that became the team. 587 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: Like it was like I'm done and I'll go to 588 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: war and if even if it's like the old mindsets, 589 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: like even if it kills me, I'm not going to 590 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: back down. I'll die for what I believe and that's 591 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: that's who Yon is and everything. But yeah, I picked 592 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: him to be the defensive Player of the Year two 593 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: years ago. That tells you what I think about his abilities. 594 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: And granted it hadn't worked out that way, but I 595 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: still think he gets in that Mike Zimmer system. Playing 596 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: opposite Hunter, they got a chance to get Sax what 597 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: I and I'll tell you I appreciate that. It's about John. 598 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean I told him how I felt like the 599 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: type of run defense or he was and what he 600 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: needs to be different because he wasn't a great yet 601 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: run defender um because he's not a big guy, but 602 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: he has the ability and he showed flashes of his 603 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: year went on last year. He has to make him miss. 604 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: He's a one gap up the field, make you miss, 605 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: get on the edge, stress a tackle in space and 606 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: uh And that's that's just who he is. And when 607 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: he can rush the passer and you get him in 608 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: enough third down situations, he's gonna create havoc. He's gonna 609 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: strip the football, he's gonna create turnovers, and he's a 610 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 1: heck of a pass rusher. But Tony, when you talk 611 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: about his run defense, it's not a want to because 612 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: he'll chase out place from behind. It's at him because 613 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: he's not I say it all the time. I Mean, 614 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: if I played the uniqun Go way and it was 615 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: the run game, I'd be like, let's go, let's run. 616 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: Let's I don't need a tight end. 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By 769 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: the way, we were disappointed JP, because we fought thought 770 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: for a second you were off the show and people 771 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, I've heard that part, but I could 772 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: not respond to that part. JP. You know how me 773 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: and you always had those big time shows. When Basselli 774 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: was in Europe and we couldn't get back in time. 775 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: It was gonna be one of those without you. Mm hmm. 776 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: Well here I am, I think, but we'll see how this, 777 00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: how this goes down. There's things to talk about. You 778 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: were replaceable. You were gonna get Wally Pittre. Yeah, well, 779 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of how it goes from time 780 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: to time. So when we left, I was talking about 781 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: who you unique that reminded me of and um, do 782 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: you remember this JP. I don't know if you remember 783 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: this name, but the Pittsburgh Steels had a guy who 784 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 1: actually played inside and outside backer, so they're not exactly, 785 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: but his name was Chad Brown. And the reason I 786 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: different style still because Chad could play inside linebacker, outside linebacker, 787 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: but he was a great outside linebacker in that three 788 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: or four defense and rushing the passer on third down, 789 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: great pastors around third down. And he wasn't overpowering, but 790 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: he was slippery. And that's how I always I always 791 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: viewed Yawn as slippery. Um, even like I knew that 792 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: Chad couldn't overpower me, but he was still a pain 793 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: because he just had the ability to get on your 794 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: edge and make it really hard to get your hands 795 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: on him. And when I used to watch Yahn, that's 796 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: what I thought about, is like he just had that 797 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: ability just to get on your edge and make like 798 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: really miserable. Have you got your hands on him? As 799 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: a big offensive linement. It was over so like when 800 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: I got my hands on Chad whose games that Matt 801 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: but he had the ability to get on the edge. 802 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: And I think that's what Yan was. Um. I think 803 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: remember I thought you would say Jason Gilden. That's why 804 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: I thought the Gilden wasn't his slippery pete. Um, he didn't. 805 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: He couldn't get on the edge like Chad Brown did. Um. 806 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: And the way Chad would play run defense is he 807 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: would always just make you admit he was never like 808 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: in one spot to would be bouncing around, so you 809 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: could never really just you know, get after him physically, 810 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: it felt like. And I always felt like that's how 811 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: Yan needed to play the run a little bit, uh 812 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 1: and trying to get on the edge and be elusive 813 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: because he's just not a big enough man just to 814 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: stand up. But but don't you think Jan would have 815 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: fit in that Steelers defense maybe better than than he fits. 816 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: And with his hand on the ground too, he I've 817 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: always thought he'd be a great three four outside back. 818 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: But now he's going to Minnesota's gonna put his hand 819 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: on the ground. Yeah, So but what do I know? 820 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even coordinator and I'm sure there's 821 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: drops and everything else. You'd be worried about Yahn in 822 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: pass coverage. But Tony, don't you think that when you 823 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: look at the Vikings. Hunter is a really good young 824 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: pass rusher. And he's not a big guy either, Yeah, 825 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: but he's long. Yahn is not long either. He's not 826 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: a long player, and Neil Hunter is long. Yeah. He 827 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: just is like and he can leverage you because of 828 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: his length, and that's where his power comes from. Um 829 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: and John doesn't have that. He's more of an edge player. 830 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: We were discussing, of course earlier, the running back Leonard 831 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: for that being waived by the Jaguars. And you know, 832 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:45,760 Speaker 1: it continues just a horrible run of first round picks 833 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: for this organization that have not come back around here. 834 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: You have it from to president if you want to 835 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,479 Speaker 1: go all the way back there with Blackman, he last 836 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: played in thirteen. Luke Jokel as Pete mentioned earlier, last 837 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 1: played in twenty seventeen with the Seahawks, like Portals, still 838 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: a free agent, Dante Fowler's with the Falcons down, Jalen 839 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: Ramsey with the Rams. Leonard waved today and then the 840 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 1: last four picks over the last three years of course, 841 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: still in their first contract. So you know, to to 842 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: build a culture, to build an organization, you gotta keep 843 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: those corners stone guys around, and the Jaguars just have not, 844 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: for one reason or another, been able to do that. 845 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: Tony Well here, and here's the worst part about it. 846 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: You know, these are all top ten picks, a lot 847 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: of them top five picks, yes, And of the top five, 848 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think the Jags have had eight top 849 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: five picks all time, and only three of those have 850 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 1: signed second contracts. You were the first one, Kevin Hardy 851 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: was the second one, and Blake Bortles was the third one. 852 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: All the others never signed back here, I mean justin Blackman, 853 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: I think he was an eighth or eighth pick overall, seventh, 854 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: ninth righter on their jokes number two, neither neither in 855 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,240 Speaker 1: the league, boordals number third overall, not in the league. 856 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: Not the Fowler's actually a pretty good player, just didn't 857 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: make it, couldn't make it work here signed a nice 858 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: deal with the Falcons in the right role. I think 859 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: you know Dante um as a productive player. Obviously, Janalen 860 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: Ramsey is probably the most talented of the of this 861 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: whole group, but just did not work out for all 862 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: the reasons we covered better for that currently not in 863 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: the league. Um, he should be, Um Tim Bryanton, you 864 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: know later in the first round. I think there's questions. 865 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: I think he was having a good camp. I'm looking 866 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,959 Speaker 1: forward to seeing him get back healthy after the knee, 867 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: see what he can do. I think he was Also, 868 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: he was also picked one spot before Lamar Jackson. That's 869 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: not I know that. Um. I think Josh Allen's an 870 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: absolute stud. Um. I think he'll be a stud. Who 871 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: knows about Henderson and Chason. They haven't even played a 872 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: snap yet, so we're not gonna comment on those. So yeah. 873 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: But I mean, here's the thing is, are you gonna 874 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: hit on all your first rounders? No, but you gotta 875 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: hit on a high percentage of Those are the guys that, 876 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 1: especially top five picks. Those are the guys you have 877 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: to build your franchise around. Those are the guys going 878 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: to the you know, I was gonna say Hawaii, but 879 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: it's not in Hawai anymore. Those are the guys going 880 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. Those are the guys who are 881 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,439 Speaker 1: top three at their position group. Those are the guys 882 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: that are on the top hundred players nowadays that they 883 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: do on NFL. I mean, you need those types. Those 884 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,439 Speaker 1: are stars, those are impact players. And when you miss 885 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: on those, boy, it's really hard. It is really hard. 886 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 1: And that's the thing Tony. Even going back to Coughlin's 887 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 1: first round picks, he he had a lot of faults 888 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: and he missed on guys, but he hit his first 889 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 1: round picks. Yeah, I mean, I mean, you think Tom's 890 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: first rounders, you me Stu. Stu was a good running back, 891 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: good running back. He was the last pick in the 892 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: first round too. He's really a second rounder because because 893 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: we have the extra picks. Um Hardy, Kevin Hardy, Pro 894 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: Bowl player, UM Fred Taylor, Um Fernando Bryant, starter, Donovans starter, starter. 895 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: All those guys are starters. And then it went bad 896 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: when the Panics started when he picked r. J. Saward 897 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: that addis and then he got back on track though, 898 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: you know John Henderson, Um, uh gosh, Marcus Stroud Stroud, Um, 899 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean so, I mean yeah, I mean for the 900 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: most parts, now you can argue some of the down 901 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 1: the road guys he picked that we're kind of like, 902 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: huh yeah. And by the way, that's that was the 903 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: nucleus of our team when we were good. Think about 904 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: here's about these first round picks. Though he had knuckleheads 905 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,280 Speaker 1: in a lot of those first round picks, and for example, 906 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: Justin Blackman was a disaster. Um Jalen Ramsey didn't work out, 907 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: large part because of himself. Um Donte Fowler. You remember 908 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: all the stories you heard about Dodd Day Fowler when 909 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: he was in jack But he was immature. He wasn't 910 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: going to his rehab meeting, he wasn't doing a lot 911 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: of those things. So a lot of those situations you 912 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: knew they had issues in some situations, and you drafted 913 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: them anyways. And so that's why that's part of the problems. 914 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: So at some point that by the way, that by 915 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: the way, JP. One thing the two thousand thirteen draft 916 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: was it was awful and you know we could you 917 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: could nail joke for all you want, but Eric Fisher 918 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: is a decent player, but he was the first overall pick. 919 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: And let's not forget the other guy they were gonna 920 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: take was the pass rusher from Oregon who's busted out 921 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: all over the place, Dion Jordan's. So it was just 922 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: a bit two thousand thirteen was a terrible draft. That 923 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: was they were thinking about him too, but they didn't. 924 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: They couldn't figure out how old he was. But you 925 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: know that's the thing to Tony. Would would you you 926 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: still think Joke was coming back and play left tackle? 927 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: No question history, Tony has ever taken up for more 928 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: than Luke Joke. I always felt bad for him. That's 929 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: why you want. You wanted to be baby Bow so bad, 930 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: but it never worked out that. I didn't want I know, 931 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to be Loup Joke. I just wanted him 932 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: to be him. Wow, hey, quick, thought about Tony the 933 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: scrimmage on Saturday. Wait, you know there's been all this 934 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: news since then that you know, we haven't really touched 935 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: on any of that yet. Yeah, I mean that we 936 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: can do the JP. I mean a couple of things 937 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: high level. When you say this, it's not it wasn't 938 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: a scrimmage, it was it was a practice. No, they 939 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: did not tackle the ground, So well, I'm just a 940 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: a scrimmage like I don't understand, And I'd love to 941 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: ask Doug, like get his perspective. I mean, what he 942 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: what was this thinking? I don't understand how you don't 943 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: have one full practice where you're tackled to the ground 944 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: like a preseason game, and said, this is our one 945 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: preseason game. We're gonna do it inter squad because we 946 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,439 Speaker 1: have to do something that prepares us for opening days. 947 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,720 Speaker 1: At all, have they tackled it. I've seen him tackle 948 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 1: one period. Yeah. I talked to Zach Taylor today the Bengals, 949 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: and they tackle a bunch of different practices a lot 950 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: of team at Yeah. I was shocked that they did 951 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: not have a full speed tackle to the ground scrimmage 952 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: so they could be ready for the Colts. That's the 953 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: first takeaway. But Doug has his philosophy. He's playing it safe. Um, 954 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 1: I just I think it's it's interesting because you have 955 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: limited practices already have a young team. I thought I 956 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: would think that would be the thing that would differentiate you, like, Hey, 957 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna really tackle and we're gonna work hard and 958 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna go extra so that we're ready and we're 959 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: not sloppy open the day. And they didn't decide to 960 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 1: do that. Fun I don't think it was a great 961 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: scrimmage for um Darker Minshew. You know, it didn't look 962 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 1: like there was a lot of zip on the ball. Uh, 963 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 1: how many interceptions? JP was there too? It was it 964 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: was one and seven on seven and then I picked six. 965 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: He threw the d J Hayden who was playing for 966 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: the defense, and that was in eleven and eleven. Worked 967 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 1: early and then yeah, there was especially early in his 968 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 1: day Tony. It just wasn't sharp. Some overthrows, just the 969 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 1: timing wasn't there. And then they got into the red 970 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: zone and he threw a couple of touchdown passes in 971 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 1: the corner and and kind of as the practice went on, 972 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 1: got a little better. But um, you know that wasn't 973 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't. It wasn't a great day. Um. 974 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: I haven't watched every snap because I left a little 975 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: bit earlier. I haven't gone back and watched all the tape, 976 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, But just little things. I mean, I don't 977 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm sensitive to say this because I 978 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: played the position and you have bad plays, But I 979 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 1: didn't like watching the rookie Jason running around Cam Robinson 980 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,919 Speaker 1: for a sack. I mean, because I think Cam's having 981 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: a good camp. I mean, just I mean, is at 982 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: the end of the world, you have bad plays. Maybe 983 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,919 Speaker 1: it's a bad set, maybe got up late. I didn't 984 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: see it. Maybe you got to a point in camp 985 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: where you're like, okay, we've been doing the same thing 986 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: because that you know, even there's that's my point. But 987 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: my yeah, I'm greet with you. That's I'm not killing 988 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: Cam about I think Cam's had a good camp not 989 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: this is not a shot at camp. But if you're 990 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: asking me this the scrimmage, like you would like to 991 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 1: see things polished like that, that's why. And I don't 992 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: know how they set it up with the players because 993 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: to your point, sometimes there's a veteran you're like, let 994 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 1: me just get through these ding thing a practice eleven eleven. 995 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: But if you're if it's set up, it's like, hey, 996 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 1: this is important, like this is the last thing we're 997 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: gonna do hard, and so I expect full go. Well, 998 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: then you know that's different. So it sounded like Jason. 999 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 1: It sounded like Jason really flashed though, did he He 1000 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: did at times? Um, he looks a little bit. He 1001 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: looks much bigger than I remember watching him on tape, 1002 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: a little thicker. I don't know if he's heavy right now. 1003 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: He has a hamstring, so he doesn't look as explosive 1004 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: as I think he'll be UM, but I like that 1005 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: he's fighting through it. You know, the rookie call on 1006 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: Johnson looked good. I mean, obviously that's well documented. He 1007 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 1: had a good camp. I thought, you know, uh, looting 1008 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: the rookie out of Oregon State. Boy, he can spin it. Oh, 1009 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: he can spin it. I mean really impressive out ball 1010 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 1: comes out of his hand. Um. So that was good. 1011 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: That was a positive UM, but nothing stood out that 1012 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 1: was what that did. Anything A p watching it saying, boy, 1013 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna be really good at this, and you're hoping 1014 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: that was would have win Gardner Mitschew. I think we're 1015 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: gonna be really good at throwing the ball in the 1016 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: corner of the end zone and going to get it. 1017 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: D J. Shark had one of those. College Johnson had 1018 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: one of those, and almost another one of the end 1019 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 1: of practice. Yeah, but that's the first of all in 1020 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: terms of the philosophy, what this thing is gonna really 1021 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 1: look like, what they're gonna do, Well, you couldn't take 1022 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: it away from that scrimmage. Well, first of all, you 1023 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: had to get to the red zone first and make 1024 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: those throws. That's the first thing. Secondly, it's still not 1025 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: a high percentage play. Yeah, I wouldn't read too much 1026 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 1: into this practice. You know that. You know better than that. 1027 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: Tell me, I've been around when he asked me what 1028 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: I saw. It's the last, just the last. 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I 1092 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: mean it's a teammate, all this stuff I'm talking about everyone. 1093 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: This is what I said to everyone on the team, 1094 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: and I tried to challenge all the people around me 1095 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: to say, let's go off what we see. Let's take names, 1096 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: take draft picks, take all that stuff off the jerseys, 1097 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: take it off the table, Okay, and then let's put 1098 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: him on the field and see who the best players 1099 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: are and what's gonna be best for our team. Um. 1100 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 1: So that's that's that's what I feel like. You know, 1101 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 1: that was my goal and that's my responsibility, and that's 1102 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:48,919 Speaker 1: what I feel I'm doing. Head Cook Stuck moron day 1103 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: after Dame Jags ways Leonard for that. Welcome in second 1104 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: hour of Jaguars Happy Hour, J P. Shattrick with Pete 1105 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Frisco and Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us today. 1106 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: That's the big news of the day for net waves 1107 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 1: by the Jaguars. Unique and got Way official now traded 1108 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: to the Minnesota Vikings for draft picks that became official 1109 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 1: at two o'clock today. That was reported yesterday morning. Uh So, 1110 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: of course those moves leave the running back room, as 1111 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: we've discussed earlier with some youth in there now obviously, 1112 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: um we've discussed a little bit is it enough compensation 1113 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: for in got Way, but it sounds like that's kind 1114 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: of what the deal was going to be, so they 1115 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: went with it. And you know, the Jags do not 1116 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 1: have a great, at least recently track record with retaining 1117 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 1: their first round picks after the rookie contracts. Um So, 1118 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, before the break here we were talking about Pete, 1119 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: you said eight rookies could be starting for this team. 1120 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Is that early in the year. What point in the 1121 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: year are you talking early in the year, and and 1122 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,919 Speaker 1: it's seven, it's it's possibly having seven guys started ally 1123 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 1: shaking his head. He's just being the negat he just 1124 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 1: wants to argue with me. Don't worry, elly, the fans 1125 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 1: are gonna be calling in and stuff in a little bit. 1126 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 1: You can argue all you want. There might be seven. 1127 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Why are you saying no, who's not? Which one of 1128 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,439 Speaker 1: them has no possibility of being a starter. I don't 1129 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 1: think Colin Johnson will be a starter this year and now, 1130 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 1: outside of injuries, I guess if you have injuries. Yes, 1131 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about as a starter. He's got a down 1132 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: because Shark's gonna Chart's gonna be a starter. And before 1133 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: the third, the second receiver before Colin Johnson get there, 1134 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 1: and I think Chris Commins had of him. I think 1135 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Commy's ahead of him right now too. But you couldn't 1136 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: see Calmly getting replaced. Okay, then that he's the third, 1137 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: he still have the starter. I said he has a 1138 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 1: chance to be a starter early in the season. I 1139 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: said seven. I didn't say he was starting. No Pete right, Chart, 1140 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: Calmly right now, the third right now, So okay, let's 1141 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: say you move calmly out so no, it becomes a 1142 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: starter now chart, So like you have to have like 1143 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: three signs starting to start, three the NFL players and 1144 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: with three receivers and Moore, come on, you start three okay? 1145 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 1: So um uh. Then the other one you said, Hamilton, 1146 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: I can see starting at some point on early. I 1147 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 1: think Abriel start, but he'll be a rotational player, will 1148 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: be on the field a lot. Um. I don't think, yeah, Henderson, 1149 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: but I don't think Chason will start right awaycause I 1150 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: think Chason will end up being the back. I think 1151 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 1: he'll rotate with Josh Allen a little bit. It would 1152 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 1: be rotational because I don't think I think they're gonna 1153 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: start Josh Allen as the open end and probably Smoot 1154 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: is your big end on the close side tight end 1155 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 1: size my guests how they start. So I don't think 1156 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 1: Chason will be a starter, but he could beat your point. 1157 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: Henderson will be a starter. Um where I could see 1158 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: Chase on where I would start Chasing. Probably i'd actually start. 1159 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: I might start him as Sam linebacker, That's what I 1160 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 1: was starting, and then put him down on us That's 1161 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 1: that's why think they'll end up doing. And then the 1162 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 1: other one would be the safety where Thomas might win 1163 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: or one of those he might win a job there. Well, 1164 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: safe isn't be interesting? Could Ronnie Harrison like where's like? 1165 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, wing uh winger wing guard also back 1166 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 1: there and Jones. That's an interesting one to me is 1167 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: what happens to Ronnie Harrison back there? I mean, we 1168 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: assumed he'd be the starter, but will he be? That's 1169 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think Thomas could beat him out. 1170 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: That would give you said, Okay, let you say you 1171 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: argue with me on Colin Johnson, but if Colin Johnson 1172 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: you take him out of the equation. I still think 1173 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 1: there's a chance that it could be six and I 1174 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: don't think the rookie what's the word. I can't Robinson, 1175 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he'll be the starting 1176 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 1: running back. I think they're gonna go with Chris Stompson 1177 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: to do a rotation by almost too, by committee. It 1178 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 1: could change week to week depending on the that's fair, Okay, fine, 1179 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 1: I'll give you six ft yeah, and then and then 1180 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: you'll and then but actually you'll tell me how right, 1181 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 1: I was about Colin Johnson being in the rotation. I'll 1182 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: give you six, but it goes to the bigger question. 1183 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: So let's say you have six rookies. Then you have 1184 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen second year player. You have Juwan Taylor second 1185 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 1: year player. Um, uh, player charts the third year player. 1186 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean you start going like, what, what's Westbrook? Four? Yes? Yes, well, 1187 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 1: I think I mean that's their thing. You look at 1188 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 1: the receiver position. Could Westbrook end up being the odd 1189 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,440 Speaker 1: man out? Well, I know, he hasn't been on the 1190 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 1: field a lot lately. He's got the shoulder. He's going 1191 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 1: week to week, I know. But they like the god 1192 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: they like the what the Godwin or Goodwin? He'll be 1193 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 1: a practice squad back and then then then Tony go 1194 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 1: to the defense. David Bryant only just what third year? Yep, Um, 1195 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 1: Hamilton's rookie, you know, I mean Miles Jackson vetter. But 1196 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: he was he four five? What is he now? Five five? Yeah? 1197 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't a full time starter a lot 1198 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: of those years. Either. There's a lot of kids on 1199 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: this roster. It's a young team, which is why particularly 1200 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get beat up a little bit 1201 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 1: early in the season, although they might win on opening Day? 1202 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: How about that? Do you think they're gonna beat the Colts? 1203 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 1: They might want to lock it? You want? Do you 1204 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 1: think they're gonna win? I'm not. I'm not too early 1205 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: to lock it. There's only one games on here. Think 1206 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: they'll beat the cold. They have a legitimate chance. Yes, 1207 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: you have a chance every week, Pete. What are you 1208 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 1: talking about? That's the worst heat heat on September Day. 1209 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Colts haven't experienced that. Yeah, I think they have it. 1210 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: They can. I'll tell you what they can. I don't 1211 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 1: think they get blown out. You've gone from I think 1212 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 1: they can. You know you went to they can win? Well, 1213 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: I think they can. Well, they won't get blown out. 1214 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: What one is it, Pete? I mean you bounce a 1215 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 1: ranch to the three. It's too early to make a pick. 1216 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 1: Next week I'll make the pick. Have you done your 1217 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 1: whole so I'm not doing it. They didn't want me. 1218 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it this year because of the schedule. 1219 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Week they weren't sure week. That's week week week sauce. 1220 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 1: What if it does and you don't have this to 1221 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 1: go great, that's terrible. You know why you want to 1222 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 1: know why they told him not to do any more JP, 1223 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 1: because he was so bad last year at his picks. 1224 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 1: They said, Pete, don't do it again. You lose credibility. 1225 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 1: You know what, though, if I actually went back and 1226 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 1: looked at my picks when I did that, compared to 1227 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 1: the picks I do on a weekly basis, I'd probably 1228 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 1: be better before the season. I had a bad year 1229 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 1: picking games last year, so you know we need you 1230 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,919 Speaker 1: know that somebody else on this show. By the way, 1231 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 1: I was that October guaranteed the playoffs JP. Yeah, I 1232 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: think I remember that I had. It's going Are you 1233 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 1: gonna do that this year too? Um? Well, I have 1234 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: to wait and see. Oh my gosh, wait and see 1235 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 1: you you don't believe that. I don't believe what that 1236 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 1: they have any chance to go to the post either. Yeah, 1237 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: they have a chance. Everyone has a chance right now. 1238 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 1: But okay, legitimate chance. I mean, we have a chance 1239 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: of getting struck by lightning tomorrow afternoon too, but it's 1240 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen. Well, I don't know. If I do, 1241 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: I'll be inside, so it'll be tough to get me 1242 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: stuck by lightning. You're gonna be in a plane soon. Um. Yeah, No, 1243 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean it's a young team. And that goes back 1244 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 1: to what I said about practice. That's why I'm surprised 1245 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: they were in camp the way they did, as young 1246 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 1: as they are. I mean you had second year players 1247 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 1: getting maintenance days, days off basically. Um. And that's just 1248 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean what you just said, Pete. The youth of 1249 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: this team, the experience of this team, new coachings that 1250 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean, new offensive coordinator on this team. Um, young quarterback. 1251 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 1: We even mentioned that the quarterbacks, and be a second 1252 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 1: year player as well. Um. That's why, just the philosophy 1253 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 1: they took. And maybe it don't work out. I hope 1254 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 1: it does. Gosh, I hope they come out and kill it. 1255 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 1: They're so fresh they kill everybody. But it's it's gonna 1256 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 1: be an attractive job for somebody if they do make changes, though, 1257 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 1: because of all the draft picks and the money they have, 1258 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 1: We're already going there. Pet you couldn't wait un till 1259 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: at least like no, I'm saying if Okay, let's it's 1260 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 1: if they win seven games, it's an attractive job for 1261 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 1: the guys who were there. Yeah, it's it's only attractive 1262 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 1: if you pick the right guys, but it's only attractive 1263 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: if Gardner Minho is any good. Yeah. Yeah. Another question 1264 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: we we mentioned some of those rookies, is there any 1265 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Mensho is the guy obviously, but you know, 1266 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 1: is there a point like in this season and for 1267 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 1: some reason then she's not playing well? Like you there's 1268 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 1: not run last year where he wasn't playing great. Is 1269 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 1: there any chance that they put another one of these 1270 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 1: guys in Glennon or even Looten, another rookie. Is there 1271 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,400 Speaker 1: a chance? There's always a chance, But I think they're 1272 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 1: gonna go with Gardener Gardener until the wheels fall off completely. 1273 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: Like it's not gonna be Hey, we gotta loose lug 1274 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 1: Nut here and or we lost one tire, They're going 1275 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 1: to lose all four tires of this thing. For Gardener, 1276 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,240 Speaker 1: this is his year. This is his year. They got 1277 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 1: to find out what he is, who he is. The 1278 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,759 Speaker 1: worst case scenario for them will be if he doesn't 1279 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: prove he can be the long term answer. Somehow they 1280 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 1: still win four or five games and don't get the 1281 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 1: number one overall there, that's the worst case scenario. If 1282 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 1: if they find out he's good and he's gonna be 1283 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,599 Speaker 1: the long term answer, and you win four or five games, 1284 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 1: that's okay. If you find out he's not good, you 1285 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 1: win four or five games, that's not okay, because I mean, 1286 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be taken first. You don't get Trevor Lawrence. 1287 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 1: So do you think he's the long term answer? Pete? 1288 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 1: And you're I have I'll be honest with you, Tony, 1289 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 1: you have to go back and watching even more of them. 1290 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,560 Speaker 1: I still don't know, and I don't think they know, 1291 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: because how can you judge him based on what he 1292 01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,640 Speaker 1: did last year? All those plays where he got out 1293 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: of the pocket and scrambled around and made plays. It's 1294 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: all exciting and stuff, But you know how I think 1295 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 1: about the quarterback position. You gotta go one, two, three, 1296 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 1: four and check down, not one to get out and 1297 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,600 Speaker 1: go make a play. So I do think he's got 1298 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: a potential. You guys have been around there more than 1299 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 1: I have this summer, you know, and I've heard nothing 1300 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,040 Speaker 1: but really good positive things about him. We haven't been 1301 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 1: around there. I've been at You go to practice, all 1302 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:39,559 Speaker 1: those other guys go to practice. Pry goes to practice training, 1303 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 1: cramp practice. So he went over the summer off season. 1304 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: JP you can't get out of your house and go 1305 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: to training camp practice. Yeah, I've been to everyone. Okay, 1306 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,720 Speaker 1: so how do you look at training camp practice? The 1307 01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 1: times has looked like where he looked like last year. 1308 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 1: That you know, he's still trying to work in that 1309 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 1: arm strength a little bit from time to time. So 1310 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 1: that's always that's always gonna be an issue. Yeah, it's 1311 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: I know that he said he's never gonna have a 1312 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,679 Speaker 1: plus arm in this league. He said that the other week, 1313 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 1: But didn't it stand out? And maybe it was just 1314 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 1: me a little bit more and the scrimmage didn't look 1315 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: like it just I mean, he's got to be clean 1316 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 1: to make the throws that he has to make. If 1317 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 1: he's got to throw a little bit off, you know, 1318 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: you've been around you know guys, don't you grew up 1319 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: watching Elway. If Elway was off just a little bit 1320 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 1: or whatever with that, I mean, you can still make 1321 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 1: the throws. Um. I think he's got to be clean 1322 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: in the pocket to be able to make the throw. 1323 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,600 Speaker 1: He's gotta be able to step the throw. And I 1324 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,360 Speaker 1: don't know if he's capable of doing that. So Pete, 1325 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,240 Speaker 1: would he be like, is he like a Chad Pennington 1326 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:52,639 Speaker 1: and super smart recognizing stuff, but just can't. Yes, great competitor. Yes, 1327 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,679 Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great comparison. And Chad anything 1328 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 1: went to the championship game. Remember I mean he took 1329 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 1: took the jet. That's the couple of one championship game. 1330 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 1: That's that might be one of your best comparisons you've 1331 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 1: ever made on here, because that's exactly who he might be. Chad, 1332 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 1: Chad Pennington and Jaton nice career and Okay, but if 1333 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 1: he's Chad Pennington, then you're still not gonna go down 1334 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 1: Lawrence and you're playing with him. Yeah, um, well would 1335 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 1: you say, Pete Chad Pennington maxed out his ability? Yes, 1336 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 1: and didn't get your super Bowl? Right? So that's what 1337 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean. It's almost like if he plays well and 1338 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: they win a couple of games, plays well and not 1339 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: really good see for me. You gotta again. I said 1340 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,720 Speaker 1: this on Frandy Show. If he went for two touchdowns, 1341 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 1: what's their record? Yeah? I mean how much? How much 1342 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,600 Speaker 1: is the defense coming up? That's a big that's a 1343 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: big number of Fanny quarterback thought DeShawn wat They're they're 1344 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,599 Speaker 1: winning at least six If he does that, Okay, then 1345 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,719 Speaker 1: that then then you have the side at that moment 1346 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: that he's your guy long term. I mean Deshaun Watson 1347 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,320 Speaker 1: as a thrown from over twenty six stud dump passes 1348 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 1: in any season. Think about that. It's true. So thirty 1349 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 1: two or thirty thirty one, if he yards, you'd have 1350 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,640 Speaker 1: to think he was your guy, right, Yeah, Yeah, I 1351 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 1: think you're right, especially the second year player. I mean 1352 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it's when he does it 1353 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,519 Speaker 1: to Pete. You know, you don't want to get those yards, 1354 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Like we're getting beat by fifty and the whole second 1355 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,760 Speaker 1: half he's thrown at forty times a game from a 1356 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,600 Speaker 1: few years ago. Yeah, like you like just gets a 1357 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:42,639 Speaker 1: little employed that you're like, this isn't real. Um, yeah, 1358 01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,720 Speaker 1: you're probably right, you gotta. It's hard to see how 1359 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 1: the numbers are. But again, though, if he if he 1360 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 1: if they win six games and they don't decide, he's 1361 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,680 Speaker 1: the long term answer. That's the worst case scenario, the 1362 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 1: worst case because then you're not gonna get large, you're 1363 01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 1: probably not gonna get field, you probably won't even get 1364 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 1: trade Land the kid out of North Dakoast State. So 1365 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,840 Speaker 1: that's the worst case scenario. Six and not having him 1366 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 1: as a long term guy. One of deciding he's not 1367 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,559 Speaker 1: the long term guy could be the best case scenario. 1368 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: You don't want that, but that could be the best 1369 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: case scenario. Well, if you know he's not the long 1370 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,800 Speaker 1: term guy, you want to win? Zero games is what 1371 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 1: you want to win? Well, Tank, you don't take. I'm 1372 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,760 Speaker 1: not saying you take no. Listen, I'm actually gonna do 1373 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:31,400 Speaker 1: what Pete has masterfully done. Is I'm separating the two. 1374 01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 1: And I've never been able to do this because as 1375 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,600 Speaker 1: a player, you always want to win and compete in 1376 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,799 Speaker 1: every game. But if I sit back right now and say, Okay, 1377 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:45,439 Speaker 1: if I had to choose winning four games and having 1378 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 1: the third pick for zero games and having the first pick, 1379 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 1: I'll take zero because I'm getting Trevor Lawrence. I'm getting 1380 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 1: the best player in the draft. All Right, here's a 1381 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 1: question for you. If it's four winds or zero wins, 1382 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: If our David dug back to even make that decision, Oh, 1383 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I don't know. I mean, 1384 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying them. I'm saying me as 1385 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the organization, I'm i am actually putting 1386 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,640 Speaker 1: on and I'm saying, as I love this organization, as 1387 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, and I want this thing to win. I 1388 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 1: want to I want to watch Don con hold the 1389 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy, and I want to like I want to 1390 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 1: be in the radio booth calling it, and I want 1391 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,759 Speaker 1: to go on the field and high five by friends 1392 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,639 Speaker 1: and like that would be like important to me. Someone 1393 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 1: who's been a part of this organization from the beginning, 1394 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 1: even though I have very little to do it um 1395 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 1: in the current role of being radio like we have 1396 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,240 Speaker 1: very little do with anything, but it'll be fun and 1397 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,880 Speaker 1: it will be important to me, is someone who loves 1398 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,640 Speaker 1: this organization, loves Jacksonville. And so if you're asking me, 1399 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 1: like I want one or two things to happen this year, 1400 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 1: I want to win seven, eight, nine, whatever, win the 1401 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 1: whole thing. And no, that Gardner Minshew is the guy, 1402 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,680 Speaker 1: like he is on the pathway to be in you know, 1403 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,880 Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback in this league, and like this 1404 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,759 Speaker 1: is the guy we're gonna build with instead of Chad Pennington. 1405 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,560 Speaker 1: He becomes Drew Brees whatever it is, Like he's the 1406 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,760 Speaker 1: guy we're gonna build around. And we know that for 1407 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,760 Speaker 1: the next ten years we have our guy. We're gonna 1408 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 1: build them around. That's one. Or I want to win 1409 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:25,639 Speaker 1: zero games and I want Trevor Lawrence. Or best case scenario, 1410 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,559 Speaker 1: the Rams win no games. You know, the best case 1411 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 1: Here's what I really like this better, is to win 1412 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The Rams lose every game, and then 1413 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,280 Speaker 1: we have a really hard choice to make. Is what 1414 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 1: do we do with the first pick overall um of 1415 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 1: the draft. Could you imagine if Gardner meant you let 1416 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 1: him to the Super Bowl victory and the greatest, one 1417 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 1: of the most amazing seasons ever, and they had the 1418 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 1: first pick, and don't he sit there banging the table 1419 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,759 Speaker 1: and draft I would do that, there's other good players 1420 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,800 Speaker 1: and trade it. What you do then is you trade 1421 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,040 Speaker 1: it for a whole hall of picks, and then you 1422 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 1: have like four round and he cann revisit get another 1423 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 1: look joke or another Justine Black But you don't. I'm 1424 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 1: actually taking I'm actually stepping back and saying, like, take 1425 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,280 Speaker 1: the player side of it, the coaching side out of it, 1426 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 1: like look at the big picture, like I want, like 1427 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 1: it's time this organization be relevant year in, year out. 1428 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 1: It's time for this organization not to be the story 1429 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 1: of the biggest story of being what you know, first 1430 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 1: round pick. We lost that left and they want to 1431 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 1: be a part of this organization. Right. Sustainable comes with 1432 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. You gotta have the quarterback position solidified. 1433 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,439 Speaker 1: And so if that means we have to lose every game, 1434 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 1: because I'm now I'm saying, if Gardner Minshew isn't the 1435 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 1: guy to lose every game and go get the guy, 1436 01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,080 Speaker 1: I warmed down JP. Finally years I warmed down. He's 1437 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,719 Speaker 1: come over to Mike the dark side. It's just true. 1438 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,439 Speaker 1: Now it's I don't want to lose every game. I'm 1439 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 1: much rather you know, have this, you know, six to 1440 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 1: nine or ten wins, whatever, then gardeners the guy and 1441 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,040 Speaker 1: we can build around it and the ram stink and 1442 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 1: get more picks there whatever. It looks like like that's 1443 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,800 Speaker 1: more proverble to me because I want to win. But 1444 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,760 Speaker 1: bottom line is, you gotta get a quarterback, and you 1445 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 1: gotta get You've got a chance to get that guy. 1446 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:19,599 Speaker 1: You get that guy. Yeah, let's come back in a moment. 1447 01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 1: We'll get into some social questions. I know you guys, 1448 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,040 Speaker 1: I love those, And boy, do we have something today 1449 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 1: with everything that happened over the last couple of days 1450 01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:34,640 Speaker 1: around here, we don't do phone calls. We got to 1451 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,599 Speaker 1: try to work on that. At some point we'll get 1452 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,200 Speaker 1: the social questions. So when we come back, it's Jaguars 1453 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:51,240 Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Hi. I'm Tito 1454 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 1: Beverage Founder and master distiller at Tito's Handmade Vodka. We 1455 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 1: became the first micro distillery in the state of Texas, 1456 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 1: and we're still making the same smooth stuff after all 1457 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,240 Speaker 1: these years. 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But before we 1515 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,680 Speaker 1: go there to the Pete they you're all over you 1516 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 1: to day. I put a tweet out saying, Hey, coming 1517 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 1: up at four o'clock, it's the show with you two guys, 1518 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 1: and you know, here's where you can find it. Here's 1519 01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,679 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. And I get a response saying 1520 01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 1: that there's no patience for Frisco the weasel today. What 1521 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 1: what what is that about? And then Jimmy talked around 1522 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 1: about it. That's something to me on there, well, because 1523 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,680 Speaker 1: I knew you'd come back. Ask me why. I don't 1524 01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 1: know where that came from many many fans. Yeah, I 1525 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 1: mean I didn't think of you as a weasel, but 1526 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,360 Speaker 1: why does some people do? I don't know. I don't know. 1527 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,200 Speaker 1: It is what it is. I can handle it. If 1528 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: they had have said that to you, You're blocked him. Probably, 1529 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't block anybody anymore. Why not? I just I 1530 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: don't tell my block m I just block him. You 1531 01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: used to make a big traumatic and you're blocked. Kind 1532 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 1: of deal. Twitter has become like a little bit of assessment, 1533 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,680 Speaker 1: a little bit really. Yeah, I'm not a fan of 1534 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:35,599 Speaker 1: Twitter right now. I gotta be honest with you. No before, 1535 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I'm not leaving Twitter, just like 1536 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,920 Speaker 1: it ebbs and flows with me. Sometimes it just gets 1537 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:47,000 Speaker 1: to be a lot. Yeah, I agree, never end. So 1538 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,800 Speaker 1: let's go to it now and start off with a 1539 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,720 Speaker 1: team and underscore why now, Why didn't we do this 1540 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,479 Speaker 1: head again to the off season and give him a 1541 01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 1: chance to find somewhere else? Why did we hang on 1542 01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,840 Speaker 1: for so long on this offseason that this was coming? 1543 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:06,479 Speaker 1: And I'm guessing he's discussing for net toning because they 1544 01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,519 Speaker 1: were trying to maximize and trying to get the pick. 1545 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 1: They thought maybe if they held out that someone will 1546 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,560 Speaker 1: get hurt, a team would have a need for the 1547 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,719 Speaker 1: running back position. And they're trying to maximize the value, 1548 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,960 Speaker 1: uh and create something, get some sort of return back 1549 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 1: and they couldn't and they got will put the best 1550 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 1: case scenario for in terms of getting something back, what 1551 01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get back for, you know not. My point is, 1552 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe if a team gets they're starting running 1553 01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,720 Speaker 1: back hurt, they have a big need or something like that, 1554 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,920 Speaker 1: maybe get a fifth round or at least they could 1555 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,280 Speaker 1: get nothing. And so they just said that finally the 1556 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 1: two weeks left, they're gonna start. The reason they did 1557 01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 1: it now is because they're gonna start game planning for 1558 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,960 Speaker 1: the Colts. And so why included guy you're not gonna 1559 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,840 Speaker 1: use in the game. And that's that's it. It's not 1560 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 1: they didn't think he was a fit for what they 1561 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,040 Speaker 1: wanted to do. That would have something to do with 1562 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 1: it too, and he was the ability wasn't worth the pay. 1563 01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 1: That's basically what it came down. And and if he's 1564 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 1: not going to mean that, if he's not gonna be 1565 01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,080 Speaker 1: the featured guy, I think there was a fear. What 1566 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:05,680 Speaker 1: kind of guy would he be in the locker room 1567 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,240 Speaker 1: if he's not getting the ball five times a game? Well, 1568 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,760 Speaker 1: he wasn't a great guy in the locker room when 1569 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 1: he was getting a game. Again, that's why I asked 1570 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:21,000 Speaker 1: the question. Question number two is from Jacob Reinhart, too. 1571 01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Do you think it's a legitimate question to wonder if 1572 01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,400 Speaker 1: this team is tanking for Trevor Lawrence. I don't think 1573 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: you try. I don't think you tank in the NFL. 1574 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it works. Um, everyone thought that Dolphins 1575 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 1: were taking last year and they ended up winning like 1576 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:38,680 Speaker 1: four or five games. Um, it just it's impossible. This 1577 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,439 Speaker 1: isn't the NBA where you just put a bunch of 1578 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,000 Speaker 1: guys out there run around and nobody's gonna get hurt 1579 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,559 Speaker 1: or anything else. This is the football. If you try 1580 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,519 Speaker 1: to tank, people get hurt. And you have a bunch 1581 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 1: of guys out there that are gonna fight and kicking, 1582 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,240 Speaker 1: scratch and claw and do everything they can, and you 1583 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,000 Speaker 1: have coaches that are fighting for their jobs. That, um, 1584 01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,920 Speaker 1: the way the game of football works. You're gonna win 1585 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,760 Speaker 1: a couple of just I mean, now you might lose 1586 01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,439 Speaker 1: them all. We've seen that. It's a rarity. But I 1587 01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 1: think it's too hard to try to take. Guys are 1588 01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 1: too competitive. Well, you know what you do, Start looting 1589 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 1: by October one, start three more rookies than the ones 1590 01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:19,680 Speaker 1: I said, and then you'll be taking. Okay, I mean 1591 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:25,479 Speaker 1: the point is this Tony's points because how bad you take, 1592 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,719 Speaker 1: then that guy's gonna take your job. That's how that works. 1593 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 1: So taking is not a real thing. And it's hard 1594 01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,639 Speaker 1: to lose every game no matter how bad you are. 1595 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,040 Speaker 1: It's only happened twice, right league history? That right? I 1596 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,719 Speaker 1: mean the Bucks and the Lions boat did it? Yeah, 1597 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,920 Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, so three times. Arch with tal has 1598 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,679 Speaker 1: next question, do you think after the final game last season, 1599 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,960 Speaker 1: the front office believes that the JAG's offense is better 1600 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,519 Speaker 1: when not centering around? And do you think the offense 1601 01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:03,479 Speaker 1: is better slash, more diverse or explosive without Well, they do, 1602 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,880 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. They think it's better without him, 1603 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,080 Speaker 1: otherwise he'd be here if they thought maybe better with seven. 1604 01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,360 Speaker 1: I agree with Pete. I think the style play they 1605 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,719 Speaker 1: wanted to do one back Gardner Minshoo's better at the shotgun, 1606 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,320 Speaker 1: which is more zone scheme stuff, and uh I don't 1607 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: think they felt like that was the perfect fit for 1608 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 1: Leonard for Nett and j Gruden came in the offense 1609 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 1: that he wants to run, probably spread you out a 1610 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 1: little bit more. They want to play in space, and 1611 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 1: uh so I think they feel like they're a better 1612 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,720 Speaker 1: team without Leonard for Nette. Now it might be hard 1613 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,040 Speaker 1: for the fan base and people and the national media say, 1614 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, that makes no sense, um, but I think 1615 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,320 Speaker 1: you can make a pretty strong case to be watching 1616 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 1: tape and kind of how they want to play. Well. Also, 1617 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,800 Speaker 1: remember he didn't play in Week seventeen last year, and 1618 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,960 Speaker 1: they seem to be okay without them. It didn't. In fact, 1619 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 1: the times Armstead one yea Armstead looked to be a 1620 01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:00,640 Speaker 1: better runner. Um. So and I again somebody said to 1621 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 1: me that he's trimmed down. He looks quicker Farmstead. Is 1622 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:08,840 Speaker 1: that true? Uh? Not? No, sable to me. Okay, but again, 1623 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,640 Speaker 1: not having him in week seventeen didn't. They didn't miss 1624 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 1: him to beat a bit. I didn't think, well they won. Well, 1625 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,479 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily his fault that they don't win games. 1626 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,759 Speaker 1: I didn't say that. My point is they were productive 1627 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:28,400 Speaker 1: moving the ball offensively. I mean Armstead zigba zigbou or zigbaigbo. 1628 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,439 Speaker 1: He didn't have me. He didn't have it right on 1629 01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,360 Speaker 1: either one of those. So over over, what did that? 1630 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,360 Speaker 1: Zig had the A and the U? How did you 1631 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,439 Speaker 1: how did you say the backup left tackle last year? 1632 01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 1: How do you say his name? Who the stiff? Uh No, No, 1633 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:59,280 Speaker 1: it's not try again, No the stiff. It's I already 1634 01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:05,200 Speaker 1: gave him that who. Final questions from A Jay McMahon. 1635 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,240 Speaker 1: Given all the offseason moves he and got Way trade 1636 01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,880 Speaker 1: and for net being ways, do you all believe Shan 1637 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:17,639 Speaker 1: Khan is giving this regime and season to see this through? Yeah? 1638 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:24,479 Speaker 1: I don't no, which is why it's much more curious 1639 01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,400 Speaker 1: as to why they did it. But again, you had 1640 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 1: to do it. I understand it, but you would think again, 1641 01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,200 Speaker 1: it's a football decision, it's not any other decision. They 1642 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,519 Speaker 1: felt that the other guys were better for what they 1643 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,840 Speaker 1: wanted to do. I think, yeah, I think Doug, I 1644 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:41,760 Speaker 1: I Doug in the staff feel like they have a 1645 01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,080 Speaker 1: better chance of winning games with the without letter for 1646 01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,679 Speaker 1: NET back there. Whether they're right or wrong, that's debatable. 1647 01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 1: I think that's what they think. M H. So here's 1648 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,160 Speaker 1: the question that we we talked about this before. What's 1649 01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:03,800 Speaker 1: it take to ensure that they're around than? I think 1650 01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:07,960 Speaker 1: that's hard. And again I'll ride the fence like all 1651 01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 1: ride the fence like Pete did last week. I think 1652 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 1: it's how does it look like? Is it they win six? 1653 01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:16,720 Speaker 1: Is it like they're getting better throughout the year and 1654 01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,040 Speaker 1: they're peaking at the end and they end up winning. 1655 01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 1: They go uh two and h two and six the 1656 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,360 Speaker 1: first half, but they go forward for the second half 1657 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,120 Speaker 1: and beat some good teams and there and they know 1658 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,240 Speaker 1: they go forward and four at the end and to 1659 01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,519 Speaker 1: those four losses are last second field goal, you know, 1660 01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,080 Speaker 1: last second drive. So it's like they are one of 1661 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:40,040 Speaker 1: the they're competitive, they're you know, they got the quarterback going. Um. 1662 01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,200 Speaker 1: That feels a lot different if they win six games, 1663 01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:44,800 Speaker 1: but they get blown out in the other ten and 1664 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,479 Speaker 1: they were lucky to win three of those six. Can 1665 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,720 Speaker 1: you think about last year? I think about last year? 1666 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 1: They're six and ten? Right were there? Were there five 1667 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,000 Speaker 1: and eleven? Last year? What were they five? Six? Then? 1668 01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:02,160 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I remember they were They won five 1669 01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:07,080 Speaker 1: okay five games, So I those eleven losses that they had, 1670 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,000 Speaker 1: were those any of those eleven games that they lost 1671 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,040 Speaker 1: where you're like, boy, they had a chance. They should 1672 01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,120 Speaker 1: have won that game because I did this And the 1673 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:21,040 Speaker 1: answer is no, they was six and ten. Yeah, those yeah, 1674 01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,599 Speaker 1: those ten losses they had, there wasn't any of those 1675 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,600 Speaker 1: ten that you're like, wow, they should have won that 1676 01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:29,960 Speaker 1: game like they were like it was never like never 1677 01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,360 Speaker 1: in doubt. If you look at the six wins they had, 1678 01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,880 Speaker 1: like you could easily they like the Denver game, it 1679 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,880 Speaker 1: took a miraculous crazy play by Minshew. They had like 1680 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:43,639 Speaker 1: at the end, come back and like amazing. The Raider game, 1681 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,920 Speaker 1: they had no business. I mean, if the official just 1682 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,559 Speaker 1: doesn't mess up the call when he slides out of bound, 1683 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,760 Speaker 1: the game's over literally like and you can like go 1684 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:53,840 Speaker 1: through it. So like it didn't. It felt like, boy, 1685 01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,720 Speaker 1: they were lucky to get six. Now, well you just 1686 01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,479 Speaker 1: go back to your like nineties six season when you 1687 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 1: could do that with every single game there was something 1688 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,360 Speaker 1: you should have won. Many you should have lost. No, 1689 01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,479 Speaker 1: I agree that, but that's how most teams are. You're 1690 01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,960 Speaker 1: missing my point of the ten tell me one they 1691 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,760 Speaker 1: should have won. That's my point. There weren't any. They're 1692 01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:16,599 Speaker 1: all like sound defeats. So if all of a sudden, 1693 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,080 Speaker 1: you end up six and ten this year and like 1694 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:19,680 Speaker 1: you should have won like four of those and you 1695 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,960 Speaker 1: just couldn't finish and you finished strong, then they stay. 1696 01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,479 Speaker 1: Then they stay. They I think they have a chance. 1697 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,400 Speaker 1: I really do think it takes eight wins. For them 1698 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 1: to stay. Um, it's my gut, but I mean, but 1699 01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:32,720 Speaker 1: I could see a case being made if they win 1700 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 1: six the right way that maybe you bring them back. 1701 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,200 Speaker 1: I think they got to get to eight for sure. 1702 01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:46,200 Speaker 1: We'll find out Tony's already guaranteed eight, nine or ten. 1703 01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:53,240 Speaker 1: Remember do they have like what would the chances of 1704 01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,200 Speaker 1: them get into eleven? B right now? Just give me 1705 01:33:55,840 --> 01:34:03,240 Speaker 1: like one in so I would say, Yeah, I'm not 1706 01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:09,160 Speaker 1: gonna say well, I'm we're you want to know, according 1707 01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,800 Speaker 1: to Pete, So that's one. I'm trying to trap him 1708 01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,160 Speaker 1: so that by the end of the year we get 1709 01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 1: have Tony said the eleven we'll go back at the 1710 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,479 Speaker 1: moment in ninety six. You guys stunk and you won 1711 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:24,360 Speaker 1: nine games that got hot at the right time. Yeah, 1712 01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:28,160 Speaker 1: he's not even paid attention anymore because I don't want 1713 01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:34,800 Speaker 1: get trapped. We're back headline, don't we another headline? JP? 1714 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:38,680 Speaker 1: Like last year got off. We got thirty minutes to 1715 01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:40,760 Speaker 1: find one. We'll go around the NFC South when we 1716 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,360 Speaker 1: come back. It's the Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 1717 01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:53,160 Speaker 1: Digital Network. Hi. 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Earlier today, the 1775 01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:28,240 Speaker 1: Jags practiced about mid day to day some light rain 1776 01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,040 Speaker 1: first day of in season reporting feet so we got 1777 01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:36,120 Speaker 1: to see only stretch and individual drills today. That's it. 1778 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,160 Speaker 1: And then now you only get twenty minutes to figure 1779 01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,120 Speaker 1: out that not what you can't figure out right, And 1780 01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:47,439 Speaker 1: it's crazy, you know, it's been the weirdest summer for 1781 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:52,680 Speaker 1: football has it felt like it? And we saw there 1782 01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,840 Speaker 1: was a college games Saturday night, there was some high 1783 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:57,920 Speaker 1: school games on, so you're starting to feel a little 1784 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,160 Speaker 1: bit of it, but no pre season as it felt 1785 01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,600 Speaker 1: like it, you know, no training camp tour for me, 1786 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:08,080 Speaker 1: you guys, I mean, it's just weird situation and and 1787 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just hasn't felt like football season 1788 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:15,719 Speaker 1: yet for me has felt that way, you know, it hasn't. 1789 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,639 Speaker 1: I mean the training camp practice has helped a little 1790 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,000 Speaker 1: bit for me because everything had been done here at 1791 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,560 Speaker 1: the house until then. And then finally to go on 1792 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,479 Speaker 1: the field and actually see football things happening, which was 1793 01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:31,040 Speaker 1: a good step in the right direction. But no, you're right. 1794 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,360 Speaker 1: Until there's actual regular games on television, I don't think 1795 01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,600 Speaker 1: it'll feel close to that. So um, you know, we 1796 01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 1: had that college game was an FCS game that wasn't 1797 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:46,120 Speaker 1: an FBS, A big time college football game. So you 1798 01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,640 Speaker 1: haven't even seen the big boys in college football out 1799 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,639 Speaker 1: there yet either. We won't for a next couple of weeks. 1800 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,960 Speaker 1: So we get something, that's when I will get real, 1801 01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,320 Speaker 1: you know that. Right. We get some college football this weekend, 1802 01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 1: which is good. Yeah, that's positive to step in the 1803 01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:02,840 Speaker 1: right direction, We'll take it. I still can't believe the 1804 01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,280 Speaker 1: big ten in the pack twelve aren't playing. That's ridiculous, 1805 01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 1: you know. Now there's the talk that they were discussing 1806 01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:13,920 Speaker 1: starting after around Thanksgiving instead now, um, but I don't 1807 01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,280 Speaker 1: know where that all ended up. So um, you know, 1808 01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,200 Speaker 1: and we'll still see you know, the SEC is what 1809 01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:24,920 Speaker 1: September is the first game. That's that's a long way away. 1810 01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,120 Speaker 1: Still a lot of things canna happen good and bad 1811 01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,600 Speaker 1: between that, but it seems like it's trending in the 1812 01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:33,920 Speaker 1: right direction now, right right right? Sure? Um, So anyway, 1813 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,439 Speaker 1: there you go, let's go around the SEC south beat 1814 01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,280 Speaker 1: or waiting on Mr Baselit to get back with us here. 1815 01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,000 Speaker 1: The Houston Texans agree to turns was that Cunningham linebacker. 1816 01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,400 Speaker 1: The new extension worth fourteen and a half million per 1817 01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,920 Speaker 1: year in new money average. That is a lot of money. 1818 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:53,800 Speaker 1: Four years, fifty eight million dollars. He's a good player, though, 1819 01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,560 Speaker 1: one of those JP is one of those players that 1820 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,320 Speaker 1: most fans have no idea about, and he's really good. 1821 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:03,960 Speaker 1: He can run, he's athletic, he's tough. I think you know, 1822 01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,720 Speaker 1: that's a lot of money for an inside linebacker. But 1823 01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,080 Speaker 1: he's one of the better players on their defense now. 1824 01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:12,240 Speaker 1: And remember that's the defense it's in big time transition, 1825 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,680 Speaker 1: so keeping him around made a lot of sense. I 1826 01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 1: like that move. I think he's a good player. Yeah, 1827 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,240 Speaker 1: they have had so many changes around there over the 1828 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:24,400 Speaker 1: last little time. He's what he would call on underrated 1829 01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:30,240 Speaker 1: player in the NFL. That that Huntingham, that hunting Tony. 1830 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:36,600 Speaker 1: Oh we've lost Tony. He is now muted. That's not 1831 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:43,679 Speaker 1: a bad thing with Cell's muted. Right. Um, The question now, Pete, 1832 01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,479 Speaker 1: is who's next time. Deshaun Watson is really the next 1833 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,280 Speaker 1: big guy. Yeah, they're gonna sign him. They're gonna give 1834 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,280 Speaker 1: him a mega contract. It's just it's not gonna be 1835 01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:56,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. It's just not going to be. So here's 1836 01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,240 Speaker 1: a question for you. Sorry exactly, I heard you, guys. 1837 01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,280 Speaker 1: I was talking, but I was muted. And then I 1838 01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,080 Speaker 1: hit the wrong button. It hung up on us. I 1839 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:07,080 Speaker 1: mean it's terrible. Um, exactly, he's a good player. But Pete, 1840 01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:08,960 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. And you haven't taken care of 1841 01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:13,679 Speaker 1: de Shawn Watson yet. Um. And with what my homes 1842 01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,200 Speaker 1: put out there, which I would not pay Deshaun Watson, 1843 01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:19,320 Speaker 1: that kind of money is not Patrick Mahomes. Um. But 1844 01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I was surprised they went that strong with Cunningham. 1845 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,000 Speaker 1: But as you and I know Pete and JP you 1846 01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,920 Speaker 1: know this as well. You always can find cat money, 1847 01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,639 Speaker 1: Like how do the Chiefs pay everyone all this money? 1848 01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean you can find they're paying Kelsey, the homes, 1849 01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:37,600 Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Parry Kill, you know, Fishers getting paid. The 1850 01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,880 Speaker 1: left tackle, Schwartz makes good money. The right tackle. I mean, 1851 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,839 Speaker 1: you always could find money. There's like there's more creative 1852 01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,560 Speaker 1: ways his money. You know that he will. But what 1853 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:57,040 Speaker 1: would you pay Watson somewhere thirty five? It's a lot 1854 01:42:57,120 --> 01:43:00,080 Speaker 1: of money, man, But yeah, I guess it's amazing. No, 1855 01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,559 Speaker 1: the perception is he has never thrown more than twenty 1856 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,560 Speaker 1: six touchdown pastes. He that's incredible to me. And he 1857 01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,880 Speaker 1: won one playoff. He's won one playoff game, and that's 1858 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:14,160 Speaker 1: because the Bills couldn't score against you and I Pete, Yeah, 1859 01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:16,000 Speaker 1: they should have won that. They should have build Buffalo 1860 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:20,720 Speaker 1: should have won that game to I know. Let's get 1861 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,760 Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis Col's rookie safety Julian Blankman came off 1862 01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,360 Speaker 1: and on football injury list, healthy enough to practice. Now 1863 01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,240 Speaker 1: he tours a c L in December in the Pact 1864 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:32,080 Speaker 1: World Championship Game. Now nine and a half months after 1865 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,400 Speaker 1: the injury, what are they expecting out of him? Pete 1866 01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:38,560 Speaker 1: in Indy, Well, I mean you hope. You don't know 1867 01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,080 Speaker 1: a guy's coming off that injury, that's a big deal. 1868 01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you don't know what kind of 1869 01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:48,040 Speaker 1: player he's gonna be. So yeah, you're hoping you get 1870 01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:49,920 Speaker 1: the best out of him. But you know, Tony, when 1871 01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,519 Speaker 1: you come back up that kind of injury, you never know. Yeah, 1872 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,360 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be right for a little bit. I mean, 1873 01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:58,160 Speaker 1: he'sn't taking time to get going, and you probably won't 1874 01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,920 Speaker 1: have the full picture of what he is maybe told 1875 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,760 Speaker 1: second half of this year or even next year. And 1876 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:07,160 Speaker 1: then finally, the Tennessee Titans are working out kickers, but 1877 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,640 Speaker 1: Vic Beasley also reported the camp a week after it 1878 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:14,080 Speaker 1: open and still hasn't practiced with the team as we're 1879 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:17,320 Speaker 1: moved into September, Pete, are you expecting what are you 1880 01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:20,880 Speaker 1: expecting now to Vic? What's the story there? Still? I 1881 01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,320 Speaker 1: don't know if he loves the game, you know, so 1882 01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:26,800 Speaker 1: maybe he's just jak it for a while. I don't know. 1883 01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,879 Speaker 1: You know, you know, Tony, you did games in Atlanta 1884 01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:32,200 Speaker 1: that does he love the game? I mean that was 1885 01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:33,800 Speaker 1: the book on him, that he wasn't one of those 1886 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:35,920 Speaker 1: guys that loved the game, And so I don't know 1887 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,439 Speaker 1: what's going on with him there. He's not that good. No, 1888 01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,400 Speaker 1: he's not that good. He's a one trick pony. From 1889 01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:46,000 Speaker 1: the standpoint. He can run fast in a straight line 1890 01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:51,839 Speaker 1: around deep an offensive tackle. Uh. Typically he beats tackles 1891 01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,679 Speaker 1: who aren't very good. Yeah, he led the league in sacks. 1892 01:44:54,720 --> 01:45:03,240 Speaker 1: He might be the worst league leader in sacks all time. Seriously, Wow, 1893 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,960 Speaker 1: you look around the a f C South. What do 1894 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,160 Speaker 1: you think about the Titans before we come? I know 1895 01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:12,200 Speaker 1: we gotta go JP, But when I know you're not 1896 01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,040 Speaker 1: a big believer in the Titan I actually changing my opinion. 1897 01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,000 Speaker 1: I think they'll be the second best team in the 1898 01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:23,720 Speaker 1: a f C South um behind behind the Colts, and 1899 01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,719 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get one of the wild card spots. 1900 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:27,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll get a wild card spot, 1901 01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,840 Speaker 1: but they'll be there, typical three. There's three wild card 1902 01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,280 Speaker 1: spots this year. People one of them. Okay, the Broncos 1903 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,120 Speaker 1: could get one of them. The Chargers could get one 1904 01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,760 Speaker 1: of them. The Steelers or Ravens could get one of them. 1905 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,320 Speaker 1: The Chargers aren't getting Listen, I love I mean the 1906 01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,559 Speaker 1: Chargers derwin James out their best. He's our best. He's 1907 01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,439 Speaker 1: the best player, by the way, He's better than Joey Bosa. 1908 01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,920 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is a more important player because he plays 1909 01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,840 Speaker 1: rush end. But as far as best players on that team, 1910 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,600 Speaker 1: James is a stud and New England could be a 1911 01:45:56,640 --> 01:46:01,200 Speaker 1: playoff team, right, the wild card team? Fair enough? All right, 1912 01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,320 Speaker 1: Jack says, let's not forget them, even though they might 1913 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:10,519 Speaker 1: win the division though. We're back in a moment. We'll 1914 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,960 Speaker 1: go around the rest of the National Football League and 1915 01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,200 Speaker 1: some high notes, and then we'll figure out what we've learned. 1916 01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:28,840 Speaker 1: On today's show, Its Jaguars Happy Hour the Jaguars Digital Network. Hi, 1917 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm Tito Beverage. Founder and master distiller at Tito's Handmade Vodka. 1918 01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,240 Speaker 1: We became the first micro distillery in the state of Texas, 1919 01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,680 Speaker 1: and we're still making the same smooth stuff after all 1920 01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,400 Speaker 1: these years. 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Our 1966 01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:50,920 Speaker 1: final moments of the program today, Game day just around 1967 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:54,360 Speaker 1: the corner, and we can't wait to be Dove altogether again. 1968 01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:57,160 Speaker 1: The Jags are taking every precaution to keep our fans 1969 01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,760 Speaker 1: safe at t i A bank field. This fault from 1970 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,320 Speaker 1: ashless concessions to contactless and true. Visit Jaguars dot com 1971 01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:08,240 Speaker 1: slash Stadium anyway and you're gonna learn more there. J P. 1972 01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,640 Speaker 1: Shadrick Tony was Sully die Prisco. We continue our look 1973 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:14,160 Speaker 1: around the National Football League. We started in the a 1974 01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:17,519 Speaker 1: f C South that we go around the league now 1975 01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:20,160 Speaker 1: a little more in the In the final moments here, 1976 01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,799 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn said the Chargers are not looking at Earl Thomas. 1977 01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:30,000 Speaker 1: He should teams look in Earld Thomas. No, particularly teams 1978 01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:34,920 Speaker 1: that have a nice set group of guys. And the 1979 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:36,960 Speaker 1: reason I say that is I think he's gonna rock 1980 01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,679 Speaker 1: the boat. I think he's a rock the boat teammate. 1981 01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:42,800 Speaker 1: He's uh, and he's not that good anyway. I mean 1982 01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:45,960 Speaker 1: he's thirty, he turns thirty two next year. I just 1983 01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:49,160 Speaker 1: don't think he's that good at it. So why go 1984 01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:51,400 Speaker 1: pay a guy like that when you know there's gonna 1985 01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,479 Speaker 1: be issues. If the Baltimore Ravens can't work you into 1986 01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:58,160 Speaker 1: their room, a well run organization and a good team, 1987 01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:02,680 Speaker 1: then you've got problems. Hard to argue that. There's not 1988 01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:06,360 Speaker 1: many things that Pete says really succinctly and correctly the 1989 01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,840 Speaker 1: first time. But nailed that one, Pete, I always do 1990 01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:14,240 Speaker 1: spot on. It's like football law comes out of his mouth. Yeah, 1991 01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,240 Speaker 1: no one, no one would say that. But that's okay. 1992 01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:23,040 Speaker 1: Football law um Alvin Kamara has missed three days now 1993 01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:27,160 Speaker 1: over his contract to New Orleans unexcused absences. According to 1994 01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,240 Speaker 1: the Saints, he's said to make only two point one 1995 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,479 Speaker 1: million this year in the final year of his rookie deal. 1996 01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,479 Speaker 1: Will he get that deal? Pete? What are his options? 1997 01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean, what what is he gonna do? Sit out 1998 01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,800 Speaker 1: the season? He can't the way the current CB A 1999 01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,000 Speaker 1: as you can't sit out the season, So I mean 2000 01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,840 Speaker 1: you can, but it's a disaster, no way. But isn't 2001 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:46,880 Speaker 1: he getting find big dollars right now to under the 2002 01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:51,200 Speaker 1: new Yeah? Yeah, they can't forget and they can't forgive it. Yeah, 2003 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:53,720 Speaker 1: he's Uh, he's making a major mistake. Get back in 2004 01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,200 Speaker 1: negotiate your deal. You'll get a new deal. You're a 2005 01:51:56,280 --> 01:52:01,479 Speaker 1: top running back again. Though if he's running back position, 2006 01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,960 Speaker 1: he's running back contracts, they're gonna get smaller and smaller. 2007 01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,519 Speaker 1: They're not gonna get bit. Isn't Dalbin Cook holding now too? Up? 2008 01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:11,400 Speaker 1: In Minnesota? He came back, but you know, then there's 2009 01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,519 Speaker 1: talk of Joe Mixon. Remember he's in his contract year 2010 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:18,040 Speaker 1: two and he has my grains now. But I asked 2011 01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,200 Speaker 1: Zach Teller today about it. He said, he's back and 2012 01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,840 Speaker 1: he'll be back. So these running backs they look around 2013 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:24,200 Speaker 1: and lead. They say, hey, I only have so many 2014 01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,280 Speaker 1: earning years in my body. I get my money, and 2015 01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:28,639 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey got his, and they're all, you know, hoping 2016 01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:30,840 Speaker 1: to get the same thing. Yeah, but none of them 2017 01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:36,960 Speaker 1: are quite that good. Pretty really like, I like, if 2018 01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,560 Speaker 1: I was listening, guys, I'd pay McCaffrey's first, because what 2019 01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:41,200 Speaker 1: you can do as a receiver, I mean, you can 2020 01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:44,679 Speaker 1: line them anywhere. Um Camara is probably second, he's right there, 2021 01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,240 Speaker 1: not quite as dynamic as a receiver. And then I 2022 01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:51,200 Speaker 1: would put Dalba Cook quite third. Um, And I think 2023 01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:55,960 Speaker 1: Joe Mixing, Yeah, he's good, but I mean he's more 2024 01:52:56,040 --> 01:53:00,200 Speaker 1: of a UM he's not. He's not as it out 2025 01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:05,080 Speaker 1: of the backfield. No other news around the league defensive 2026 01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,840 Speaker 1: back Logan Ryan headed the Giants one year, seven and 2027 01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:11,200 Speaker 1: a half million dollars and close to his college, and 2028 01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:13,559 Speaker 1: their quarterbacks might be heading to jail, so he had 2029 01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:17,080 Speaker 1: to do something. I mean, you think about that. You know. 2030 01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,280 Speaker 1: They thought deanrew Baker was going to be one of 2031 01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,960 Speaker 1: their starting quarterbacks, and he got involved in a situation 2032 01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:25,759 Speaker 1: down here where allegedly he was involved in an arm robbery, 2033 01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 1: so they had to do something. It makes sense for them. Yeah, 2034 01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm surprised Logan Ryan's on the street that long. He 2035 01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:33,640 Speaker 1: think you have a pretty good year last year in 2036 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:37,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee Pete and the Pro Bowl. Boy, Yeah, I think 2037 01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:39,760 Speaker 1: he might have been waiting for the right opportunity to 2038 01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,080 Speaker 1: know that's a that's a good one year contract for 2039 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,639 Speaker 1: a guy to go in there and start right because 2040 01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:50,920 Speaker 1: there was situation is perfectly l s you why receiver 2041 01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:56,200 Speaker 1: Jamarchchase is opting out of thee football season and he 2042 01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,200 Speaker 1: just adds to the list of guys feete that are 2043 01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,959 Speaker 1: skipping this last year of college and with the unknowns 2044 01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 1: around the season to go to the NFL. Well, they're 2045 01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:07,400 Speaker 1: following Nick Bosa's lead. When he did it at Ohio State. 2046 01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:09,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't the same psycho situation, but he did it. 2047 01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:11,559 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, hurt though, but he got 2048 01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:14,120 Speaker 1: hurt head after Yeah, he could have come back, Tony, 2049 01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,160 Speaker 1: he took it off to go play and go get 2050 01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,640 Speaker 1: ready for this for the NFL. Yeah, but different to 2051 01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:21,400 Speaker 1: me because Nick Bosa was not gonna sit out if 2052 01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:23,439 Speaker 1: he didn't get hurt. So a reason He said, this 2053 01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:25,479 Speaker 1: kid sitting out before he ever plays one game, I 2054 01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:29,000 Speaker 1: don't like her, but come back. And then he said, no, 2055 01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get ready for the draft. And it hurt him. Okay, no, 2056 01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,200 Speaker 1: but it was different. He wasn't gonna come back to 2057 01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:36,600 Speaker 1: the bowl game. It was the season was over. Basically, 2058 01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:40,720 Speaker 1: he had foot surgery. Two different things. This kid is healthy. 2059 01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't like it. And if I was a GM, 2060 01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:44,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't like it. You know. Oh, if I was 2061 01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,480 Speaker 1: a GM, I wouldn't care. I get ready for the NFL. 2062 01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,120 Speaker 1: Go protect your money. Come on, Tony, you're better than that. 2063 01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:53,400 Speaker 1: You know better than that. Then why go to college 2064 01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:55,600 Speaker 1: at all? Pete? Why not just hang out after high 2065 01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,760 Speaker 1: school so you be eligible? And you know what that's 2066 01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:01,640 Speaker 1: eventually coming. There's gonna because because right now that college 2067 01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:04,680 Speaker 1: football has a they basically a free minor league for 2068 01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. Eventually you're gonna have a minor league and 2069 01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:08,800 Speaker 1: these guys are going to go to college summer. You 2070 01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:13,120 Speaker 1: what's college football too? You get don't play? If you're ready, 2071 01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:14,560 Speaker 1: if you're gonna beat de mar Chase, you're gonna be 2072 01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,120 Speaker 1: a high first round pick. Why would you go play 2073 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:21,960 Speaker 1: the season um, and I know you you are a 2074 01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:27,400 Speaker 1: sulfide your selfish can be damn thing because you wanted 2075 01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:32,040 Speaker 1: if you love your school, yeah, I love you. If 2076 01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:36,160 Speaker 1: you get hurt, he used to do the victory side 2077 01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,400 Speaker 1: after the game. That's why. That's why Tony wants to 2078 01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:42,080 Speaker 1: do it absolutely. And by the way, I've asked many 2079 01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:44,840 Speaker 1: gms over the years about this. They don't give it. 2080 01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:50,640 Speaker 1: Damn I go back to do you go back? Pete? 2081 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,600 Speaker 1: Just let him, you know, even after the freshman year, 2082 01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,800 Speaker 1: like Maurice Clarette, right, that was the big fight with 2083 01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:57,760 Speaker 1: him and it wouldn't have worked out for But that's 2084 01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:01,360 Speaker 1: his decision. I don't I don't like it in those 2085 01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:03,800 Speaker 1: kind of cases. But if you're Jamar chasing, you're gonna 2086 01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:05,640 Speaker 1: be a high first round pick no matter what. Why 2087 01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:12,680 Speaker 1: would you play set record, Heisman Trophy winner. Oh do 2088 01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:16,240 Speaker 1: you write checks with that? Well? You can also you 2089 01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,560 Speaker 1: can get insurance if you get hurt, you get paid. 2090 01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:20,680 Speaker 1: That's not gonna get you to your second contract. That 2091 01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,520 Speaker 1: you know the big money is in the second contract, Tony. Yeah, 2092 01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:25,600 Speaker 1: but there's no guarantee he's gonna do a second contract. 2093 01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,200 Speaker 1: But you got you gotta do everything in your power 2094 01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:29,880 Speaker 1: to try and get to that second contract, and not 2095 01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:34,480 Speaker 1: playing this year is the first step to that. You 2096 01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,920 Speaker 1: have look around. Tony can talk about competitive drive and 2097 01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:40,080 Speaker 1: doing it for the school and everything else. I know him. 2098 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:46,680 Speaker 1: I know him. You would have sat at USC you 2099 01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:52,920 Speaker 1: are guaranteed we will pick you second overall next draft 2100 01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:57,680 Speaker 1: before the college season, would you have played guaranteed? Yeah, 2101 01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:03,000 Speaker 1: guaranteed you're going first or second next draft? Second? So 2102 01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:05,280 Speaker 1: would you you were guaranteed to go second? Would you 2103 01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:11,480 Speaker 1: played your senior season? Beat the business side of it? 2104 01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,520 Speaker 1: I actually I'm not gonna see and act like I'm 2105 01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna argue against you on the business side. That's a 2106 01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,320 Speaker 1: fair point. But I'll say this, I have a lot 2107 01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:21,000 Speaker 1: of great memories and after doing it all and playing 2108 01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:23,840 Speaker 1: both pro college, I loved my senior in college. It 2109 01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,400 Speaker 1: was I had so much fun. I really did. I 2110 01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:28,880 Speaker 1: loved it and it was a big part of my 2111 01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:31,120 Speaker 1: memories of the game of football that I love playing 2112 01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,640 Speaker 1: because I loved playing football, And so I don't know 2113 01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:36,720 Speaker 1: if I would from a business case, I can't argue 2114 01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:38,680 Speaker 1: that with you. Pete. You're right, it doesn't make sense 2115 01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,560 Speaker 1: from a business standpoint, But from a lifestyle and what 2116 01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:43,400 Speaker 1: you love to do, and like you love the game, 2117 01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:46,000 Speaker 1: and like the memories I have and what I gotta 2118 01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:47,680 Speaker 1: do and going to the Copon Bowl and hanging out 2119 01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:51,320 Speaker 1: with my friends and the men like those moments, Like 2120 01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I had to try those. Plus 2121 01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:56,560 Speaker 1: you took a pay cut to come into jam. That's 2122 01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:58,200 Speaker 1: not true. I didn't get paid. But you know what 2123 01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you only played half the the Cotton Bowl. 2124 01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:03,000 Speaker 1: You only played the first half anyway, And I'm in 2125 01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:07,240 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Um, but pace, you know what 2126 01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying that that means something. Yeah, no, no, I 2127 01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:12,640 Speaker 1: get I'll be honest with you, Like in all seris 2128 01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:14,800 Speaker 1: is like the reason I'm in the College Football Hall 2129 01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,400 Speaker 1: of Famous because I played my senior year did really good. 2130 01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,280 Speaker 1: Like that's something that's a pretty cool honor that money 2131 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:24,840 Speaker 1: can't buy, and that's not going away, like a hundred 2132 01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:26,400 Speaker 1: years from now when they go look at that thing, 2133 01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm dead and gone and my great 2134 01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,280 Speaker 1: great grandkids and go up to Atlanta and look at 2135 01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:33,720 Speaker 1: the dang thing and and be like, hey, my that's 2136 01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:37,440 Speaker 1: my grandpa or my great grandpa or whatever. From a 2137 01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:40,200 Speaker 1: business standpoint, I get it but to me and not 2138 01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,800 Speaker 1: being serious, it's not all about dollar and cents. It's 2139 01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:47,560 Speaker 1: just not it's not but and that's why that's why 2140 01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't buy it. It's for me. Now do I 2141 01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:51,640 Speaker 1: need do? I think we need to reform college football 2142 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:53,040 Speaker 1: and we need to look at how we do it 2143 01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:57,200 Speaker 1: and in the whole economic model and everything else. Would 2144 01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:58,800 Speaker 1: you let me answ you this. If you were playing 2145 01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,400 Speaker 1: at USC right now and they anceled the season, you 2146 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:04,320 Speaker 1: could transfer, go play another I would transfer? You would 2147 01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:07,520 Speaker 1: I would you? I mean, if you were guaranteed to 2148 01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:09,680 Speaker 1: be a top TED pick, you'd still transfer. Go play. 2149 01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:13,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good That's that's an interesting like not 2150 01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:15,640 Speaker 1: having a relationship. I don't know. Maybe I would look 2151 01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,080 Speaker 1: at it because it's not like your fields. If your 2152 01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:20,560 Speaker 1: feet justin fields, would you go try and play somewhere? 2153 01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:23,760 Speaker 1: I'll say this if I was, if I was in 2154 01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,160 Speaker 1: that situation, and let's say I'll just say Alabama because 2155 01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:28,840 Speaker 1: JP loves Alabama and they're a good football team in 2156 01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:30,640 Speaker 1: Alabama said listen, you're gonna be our starting love tackle. 2157 01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:33,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna win a national title. I'll be pretty dange louring. 2158 01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just bad that Arizona State stop 2159 01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:40,520 Speaker 1: playing this year, because this is a year that ye 2160 01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:48,040 Speaker 1: okay pe Pete Frisco totel more than just money.