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Speaker 1: the latest edition of our show, we talked about to

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Speaker 1: Hey it's all good. Uh, big time show today in

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Speaker 1: front of us. We're gonna be talking about wide receive

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Speaker 1: verse in West Virginia. Stand up, get hyped. It's your boy.

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Speaker 1: He's back in the podcast. Baby, the prodigal Wide receivers

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Speaker 1: Son returns. If anyone could see the look on it's

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Speaker 1: basically that that emotionless face. It's yeah, that's the straight smile,

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Speaker 1: whelp face. Matt Harmon, what's up kid? How much? Man?

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Speaker 1: How's it going? It's good to be back here. I

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Speaker 1: forgot how good? Uh these mikes make my voice sound.

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, they make your sound. Their voice sounds so

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Speaker 1: golden and and delicious. Um. Delicious is definitely the the

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Speaker 1: adjective I was I was looking for. Absolutely m GM,

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Speaker 1: I got Marcus Grant, what's up now much? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: And the wiz kid from Wisconsin Alex kealhar Hello, how's

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Speaker 1: it going? Um? Like I said, we're gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: hit or here. No Adam right today? Uh, Like I said,

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Speaker 1: a good question. Well, they were on his podcast, but

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Speaker 1: You guys are both contrarians. Um, I don't me a contrarian. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that it's against the form? Uh? So, yes, we will

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Speaker 1: And I know Harmon's got some some people. He's a

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Speaker 1: follow breaking news news, your wife, alright, your top headline today.

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Speaker 1: Josh Gordon has failed a drug test yet again. For

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Speaker 1: some reason, though it just escapes me. He's still up

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Speaker 1: for reinstatement and could still play in the league next year.

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Speaker 1: I mean I saw a lot of Baylor this year.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they were very high profile team. I mean from

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Speaker 1: what I saw on the field, love it. When I

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Speaker 1: went back to go look at some more tape. Loved it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Combine loved it as well. Five a leven. So he's

428
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Speaker 1: a you know, he's he's got a good build on him.

429
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Speaker 1: Four three, seven, forty time. But that's at his pro day,

430
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Speaker 1: which everyone runs a little faster on their pro day

431
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Speaker 1: for whatever. Um. But you know, the bottom line is,

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Speaker 1: let's say he's got a four or four or forty times,

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Speaker 1: still great, seventeen reps on the bench. That's huge. That's

434
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Speaker 1: huge for a wide receiver. I think it was definitely

435
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Speaker 1: in the top five. I think that, I think from

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver perspective. Uh, this year, I think they

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't quote me on this, but I

438
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Speaker 1: think it topped out at nineteen. But the guy who shepard,

439
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I thought I thought somebody hit twenty.

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Speaker 1: But seventeen is that's a big number for a guy

441
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Speaker 1: with that kind of speed. That's a huge number. I

442
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Speaker 1: love that. I absolutely love that about Corey Coleman. And

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Speaker 1: uh and yeah, man, I you know you guys pegged

444
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Speaker 1: me right. Man, he's a he's a combine, combined guy.

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Speaker 1: And and I I liked it. I really liked what

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Speaker 1: I saw on Corey Coleman. All right, another speezer. How

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Speaker 1: about Will Fuller? There a Notre Dame. Um, A lot

448
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: of folks you know, he ran the officially ran the

449
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Speaker 1: fastest forty time at the combine for a wide receiver

450
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Speaker 1: at four three two, which is insanely crazy fast. Matt

451
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Speaker 1: harmon your take on the Notre Dame product. Okay, Well,

452
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna like put my take into context here with

453
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Speaker 1: where other people see him. And I know our colleague

454
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah said that he could be the first wide

455
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Speaker 1: receiver off the board. That's what he's hearing. That's what

456
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Speaker 1: he's hearing. And a few other people, you know view

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Speaker 1: him as a top five receiver prospect. Uh, and you know,

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Speaker 1: a clear first round pick. I don't. Personally, I don't. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing with him. And if you've been

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Speaker 1: paying attention to me at all this offseason, one, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry too. You know that I've been talking a lot

462
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Speaker 1: about receiver drops. I wrote an article for my website

463
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Speaker 1: about how I feel about receiver drops and and and

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Speaker 1: the way that I think it's an over over rated,

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Speaker 1: over emphasized part of analyzing the position. When you put

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Speaker 1: it into context with the rest of what they do.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk about why I don't like will

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Speaker 1: Fuller without talking about his drops um because you aren't.

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Speaker 1: So I just can't bring up Ted again. You can after,

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Speaker 1: but let me finish. So the interesting thing about will

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Speaker 1: Fuller is I do think that he obviously has deep speed,

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Speaker 1: and he has that ability, I mean crazy fast, like

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, he can just fly by guys. He has

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Speaker 1: that rare you know, fifth or sixth gear that NFL players.

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Speaker 1: He's also really good after the catch, like when you

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Speaker 1: get the ball in his hands. He can function in space,

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Speaker 1: and he's not worth like he's a pretty tough guy,

478
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Speaker 1: like about going over the middle and playing in traffic.

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Speaker 1: He's fine with that. The problem is he's so thin,

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Speaker 1: like he's six ft one eight. He has the lowest

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Speaker 1: success rate versus press coverage scores of all the guys

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Speaker 1: I charted this year. Like he's just not good at

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Speaker 1: getting off the line, and that's going to be a

484
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Speaker 1: problem when you get to the NFL and there's more bigger,

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Speaker 1: physical corners. And he's just like the interesting thing about

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Speaker 1: him and I kind of separate deep threats into two

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Speaker 1: different parts. There's like the Mike Wallace guys that run

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Speaker 1: the nine route, but they also run the curl round

489
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Speaker 1: the slant route. Those are really easy quarterback like targets

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Speaker 1: for a quarterback to hit. Then you've got guys like

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Speaker 1: Kenny Stills, you kind of run more out routes, and

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Speaker 1: I think will Fuller profiles is that guy, and that

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Speaker 1: takes really a lot of anticipation, timing. It takes a

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Speaker 1: really good quarterback to get with those guys. So to me,

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Speaker 1: I think he fits into that like archetype of deep

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Speaker 1: threats that's going to take a lot from their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And you saw like when Mike Wallace got out of

498
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Speaker 1: like a very backyard style Pittsburgh offen. This is playing

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Speaker 1: with like a timing quarterback in Minnesota, it just didn't

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Speaker 1: fit as well. And same thing when Kenny Still has

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Speaker 1: left New Orleans and had that timing quarterback, things fell

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Speaker 1: apart for him too. So I think will Fuller is

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Speaker 1: going to be a tough guy. Why can't Will Fuller

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Speaker 1: run those routes that you were mentioning, Why can't he

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Speaker 1: run a comeback or a curl or a h slant.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's just based a lot on timing

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Speaker 1: and knowing when to break back, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: he has quite that ability to to time those routes.

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Speaker 1: And like I mentioned getting free from press coverage as

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Speaker 1: a struggle, Like if you can't get off the line,

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Speaker 1: you can't get into that slant route very well, you

512
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Speaker 1: can't get in to those crossing routes. So he's either

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Speaker 1: going to have to blow by you or he's going

514
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Speaker 1: to run a very nuanced route to the outside. I

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Speaker 1: think what doesn't help will Fuller is that he is

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Speaker 1: so freaking fast that that's his trade he always relies on,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't allow him to run his routes at

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Speaker 1: different speeds to set up those routes better and gain

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Speaker 1: the separation because he's just used to going like mad

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Speaker 1: past everybody. He's not He's not a detailed deep route

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Speaker 1: runner like a lot of people compare him to Devin

522
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Speaker 1: Smith last year. I like Smith a lot more because

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Speaker 1: he showed that sort of deception, like he could sell

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Speaker 1: the underneath route before going vertical, or if he's running

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Speaker 1: that deep post, he would cut back and then cut inside.

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Speaker 1: When I watch will Fuller, I immediately think of Deshan Jackson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I mean, I mean you look at the side,

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Speaker 1: the body size, the type of game that they played,

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Speaker 1: the speed obviously, Um, I mean he's he's a Deshan

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Speaker 1: Jackson clone. But Jackson is better at playing the he

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Speaker 1: has better ball skills, He's better at contested and that

532
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Speaker 1: was what Smith was so great at two last year.

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Speaker 1: He was gonna he had he could track the ball

534
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Speaker 1: like a like you throw at frisbee up for a

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Speaker 1: dog and he's just gonna go get it. That was

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Speaker 1: Smith last year, and same thing with Jackson in terms

537
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Speaker 1: of like playing its contestants. So we haven't really asked

538
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Speaker 1: this yet, but if there was one dream spot for

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Speaker 1: Fuller to land, where would we want him to go? Oh? God,

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Speaker 1: to New Orleans? No, No, I Baltimore might work, um fun,

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh even like just to replace that big play threat

542
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Speaker 1: aspect that they're probably going to miss with Martevis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well they've got Darius Sayward Bay, so hey Bay. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, Pittsburgh. Um, I can't really like, off the

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Speaker 1: top of my head, I can't really think of like

546
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Speaker 1: a perfect landing spot. I mean even New New York

547
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Speaker 1: that would be like New York Giants, that would be

548
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Speaker 1: kind of fun. Yeah, alright, well we can we can

549
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Speaker 1: move on. We don't need to sit here and dream

550
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Speaker 1: up all that. I think Dallas needs a guy I

551
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: do umu. Terence Williams hasn't really cut it so far. Yeah, exactly,

552
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: that is accurate. Yeah. I mean he can do one

553
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: thing and that's about it, which is go. But that's

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Speaker 1: other than that. It doesn't have like the last one

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Speaker 1: thing I do want to ask you about will Fuller. Uh,

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00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: you know the tape that I saw, it's so hard.

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00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: He's either wide open on a go or he's catching

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00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: bubble screens right. So it's like, there's so few plays

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Speaker 1: where I saw he was actually in contested space where

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00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: they actually threw in the ball um and again you

561
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: mentioned that slide frame me. If he gets jostled off

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Speaker 1: by a physical corner, they just don't throw there. Um.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of the players I saw he's either

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Speaker 1: he's most of them as I saw, he's either wide

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00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: open or if it's contested, they're just not throwing him.

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Speaker 1: Uh the rock. I thought it was very hard to

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Speaker 1: figure out what he's gonna look like in the pros.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough it's a tough translation to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you. I mean, I just I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: just don't see a guy that you're going to want

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Speaker 1: to be like a top two options in your passing

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Speaker 1: game and like regularly rely on him. I think, like

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Speaker 1: you know, and Marcus mentioned Ted Ginn, like he can

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Speaker 1: be that type of player for you that you want

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00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: as like a hammer, you know, that like foot on

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Speaker 1: the throat sort of sort of player in a passing offense.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think you're gonna want to count on

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Speaker 1: like you don't want to throw a hundred targets to

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Speaker 1: Will Fuller in a year, you know. All right, very good? Um,

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00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: how about let's go to Ohio State, shall we too?

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00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: A very interesting names, one guy a little higher on

582
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: than than the next. Braxton Miller. I like Michael Thomas

583
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: not so much. Um do you like Braxton Miller more

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Speaker 1: than Michael Thomas? Well, yeah, well I think I think

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more intrigued by Braxton Miller and

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00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: the other thing. But about Braxton, I think his I

587
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Speaker 1: think he will get drafted uh lower than Michael Thomas.

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00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: It's seeming that way right now. And uh and and

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00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: just I'm just kind of looking for risk reboard. But

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, he doesn't look like a natural player, I guess,

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00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: is is what I'm thinking. I mean, obviously you look

592
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Speaker 1: at the size of speed and you're like, oh, yeah,

593
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna ball. But I don't think he

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Speaker 1: ever cracked eight hundred yards ever at Ohio State. Michael

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Speaker 1: Thomas has and I just wrote a at him yesterday

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Speaker 1: for NFL dot Com NFL dot com slash prospect Today,

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00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: thank you, sir, uh. And he is a fascinating case

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Speaker 1: because he's become one of the more polarizing players in

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Speaker 1: the draft. I was thinking that same thing, like there's

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Speaker 1: such a wide variety of like I mentioned in the

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Speaker 1: lead to my article, like you got guys saying he's

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00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: the number one wide receiver, comparing him to some of

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00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: the best players in the NFL, and you've got other

604
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: guys saying he's like one of the more overrated prospects

605
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: in the draft, and it's like a tilted world of

606
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: opinions on him. But he does and to speak on

607
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: the negatives, he does have a very pedestrian production profile

608
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Speaker 1: as far as just raw stats and the percentage of

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00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: the team offense that he owned, which a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys in the fantasy community do a good work on

611
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: market share and stuff like that. And he's also older.

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00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: He's another one that's like he went to military academy

613
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: outside of high school and he came to Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: so you know, he's I think what that lets you

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00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of imagine for him, and this speaks to my

616
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: opinion on him, is it kind of limits the range

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00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: of possibilities, like the range of possible outcomes in the

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Speaker 1: ceiling there. Uh So, I think, to me, he's a

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00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: really polished route runner, and that's really interesting because normally

620
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Speaker 1: you think of smaller receivers being that good route runner

621
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: type of guy. But he puts a lot of of

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Speaker 1: nuance into his routes and he consistently gets open against

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Speaker 1: the cornerbacks that he was facing. He's pretty strong against

624
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: press coverage. So but he so he does all those

625
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: small receiver things well. He's pretty good after the catch,

626
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Speaker 1: but he doesn't play like a big receiver like you mentioned,

627
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Speaker 1: he doesn't look natural tracking the ball in the air

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Speaker 1: in contested situations. He's just below the class average that

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Speaker 1: I have. So I don't know. He's a confusing evaluation

630
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Speaker 1: because I think he's very much like a complimentary number

631
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Speaker 1: two receiver, and that's probably all he ever will be.

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I would agree inside some that

633
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: some do like I don't. You mentioned player comps and

634
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Speaker 1: I don't do a lot of them because I'm I'm

635
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: bad at them. But rum for Johnny, who's good to

636
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Speaker 1: follow on Twitter. He could compared to Michael Crabtree, and

637
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly who much. I like that one

638
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: six So he's a big boy man. He ran four

639
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: or five set uh eighteen reps on the bench, so

640
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: he is an athlete. He's a big time athlete. But

641
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: just I don't like having watched all these Ohio State games,

642
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: I never thought, oh, Michael Thomas got to worry about

643
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: this guy. I was much more impressed with what Devin

644
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: Smith could do two years ago. Then then Michael Thomas

645
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: at all last year and again, he never has topped

646
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: eight hundred receiving yards. He's never topped double digit touchdowns.

647
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: He had back to back nine touchdown years going from

648
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: his sophomore to junior year. And again, you know, the

649
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: routes fine, but it's like it's like you said, man,

650
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: he seems to play smaller than he is He's huge

651
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: in Dynasty drafts. Is always going to be somebody that

652
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: likes Michael Thomas more than me, Like I want to own.

653
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: I want to own like a top five pick or

654
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: a pick in the late round, in the late part

655
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: of the first round where I can take a couple

656
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: of bites at the apple, like either a Leonti Cruise

657
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd. Michael Thomas is gonna go in that like

658
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: one six range, and I just don't want any part.

659
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: I think he actually went exactly at like one six

660
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: in the Dynasty rookie mock draft I just did with

661
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: some guys from like Rhodo Viz and other places like that.

662
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: When you talk about the crab Tree comparison, and I

663
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: mentioned this in the article, like that's the thing about

664
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Like remember Crabtree on was was so awful

665
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: because he just was such a poor fit with that

666
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: quarterback and then he goes to him say his name,

667
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: he's not Voldemart. It was. We talked so much about him,

668
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm sick of talking about it. So I think Thomas

669
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be that way too for fantasy, Like if

670
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: he gets in a landing spot that he just doesn't

671
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: fit with that sort of anticipatory quarterback. It could be

672
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: a nightmare. All right, Braxeton Miller, what's up? I don't know.

673
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: You're the one who loves well, Look, he's a He's

674
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: a fabulous athlete, There's no question about it. And did

675
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: you know he used to play quarterback? That? I know

676
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: that's shocking? Is he though? Because like shocking? Well, I

677
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: mean I know he played quarterback? Is he a fabulous athlete? Though?

678
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean he definitely plays that way. He didn't test

679
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: that way at the comedy. He was like just okay,

680
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: he was okay, I'm uh, well, I don't know. I

681
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: think he was above average. Let me let me look

682
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: at this up real quick, Braxton Miller. Where I think

683
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: the quicksis drills, he was very good. He ran like

684
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: four right, he ran a four forty eleven foot broad

685
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: jump and seventeen reps on the bench. That's a good athlete.

686
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: Expectations were probably just a little too Yeah, people were

687
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: getting a little getting a little way too hype. He's

688
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: also sunds uh so again he's uh, he's got the size. Uh,

689
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: it's he's not necessarily a six three guy, but you

690
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: know he's got good size, he's got good speed, and

691
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: he's a strong kid. And what we saw, especially after

692
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: the catch, I was very impressed with. Look, he double

693
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: taps a lot balls, There's no question about it. Um.

694
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: But again, that was one year as wide receiver. What

695
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: happens when he works this offseason fully just I mean

696
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: just pounding the jug machine? What? What? What? What's that

697
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna look like? Will he do that? I don't know.

698
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what his work ethic is like. But

699
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: if he really dedicates himself to this thing, uh, Man,

700
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: we saw I thought, I thought I saw some pretty

701
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: good improvement for a guy who's never played the position.

702
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: I liked what I saw, uh in terms of improvement.

703
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: Now can he keep that going? That's the quiet. When

704
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: you get to the pros and you get that NFL money,

705
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: can you keep that going? I don't even know if

706
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: it's about so much the money. I mean it is

707
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: it is one learning to play the position is also

708
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: learning to play it against professional talent, you know what

709
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: I mean? And I think I think you know, the athleticism,

710
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: I think that's there. I think the want to is there,

711
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: But I mean it just it comes down to the

712
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: ability to to learning to be able to do this

713
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: consistently against some of the best athletes in the game.

714
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, that's going to be the

715
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: part where Braxton Miller is going to struggle a little bit.

716
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: So I think for for our purposes, for fantasy purposes,

717
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy maybe in a a rookie

718
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: draft you take a late flyer on and hope that

719
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: he develops into something, because I don't know that he's

720
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: going to give you enough consistent production this year that's

721
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: going to be worth all. He ain't doing Jack There's

722
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: no way or I mean or even seen. I mean,

723
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: this is this is a projection and the fact he

724
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: has a year ahead is nice. But you just don't

725
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: see enough evidence, like of him doing wide receiver things

726
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: like they put him in a specialized role to get

727
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, and that was great. He

728
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: can make plays that way. But for fantasy purposes, like

729
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: Marcus said, he's I mean, who knows when he's going

730
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: to produce on a consistent level. If he ever does,

731
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a it's a big leap of faith.

732
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: You know. He's also he is twenty four years old already,

733
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: Like it's who the hell knows when Braxon Mill is

734
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: going to do anything worthwhile. He definitely needs to get

735
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: to an offensive coordinator that recognizes his skill set um,

736
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: because he could do a lot of different things, which

737
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: is very interesting. He's definitely not a specialized player, that's

738
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: for sure. Um you know, I just think, yeah, he's

739
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: got to play that h back role, There's no question

740
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: about it, and he can. I think he can carve

741
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: out a long time role in this league if he

742
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: could figure that out, and if he could get what

743
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: the coordinator they can do. I would like to see

744
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: him get in the slot and develop into like because

745
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: there are I'd love not to continue to make the comparison,

746
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: but there are several other wide receiver former quarterbacks that

747
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: do good work in the slot. Because as a quarterback

748
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: in a pro style offense at Ohio State too, he's

749
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit better at naturally recognizing those coverages. However,

750
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: like Matt said, he still needs to learn uh more

751
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: of the nuance of playing the position. But if he

752
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: gets in puts in the time like guys like Randall Cobb,

753
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, they didn't they didn't do squat their rookie years.

754
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: But after they had a time, they had the reps,

755
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: they learned the offense, then they started picking it up.

756
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: So and I like the fact that he used to

757
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: be a quarterback, the fact that he thinks about this

758
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: game in a different kind of way, and he's used

759
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: to spending all that film time. He's used to it.

760
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: So I'd like to, like I said, but it's still

761
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: a projection. I understand why like NFL media analysts and

762
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: like NFL draft guys are higher on Miller than uh,

763
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: like the fantasy community is, because that's I mean, they're

764
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: going he's a big name. He will go earlier in

765
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: rookie drafts for Dynasty than he's I agree with that.

766
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: Agree with that. Um Pittsburgh Tyler Boyd, interesting guy, Interesting dude,

767
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: pounds thirty four in vert his hands. My god, I

768
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: mean every single play you see if this guy, he's

769
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: snatching the ball out of the air. Uh Matt Hartm

770
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: what's your take on on Tyler Boyd? Not as how

771
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: on Tyler Boyd as other people are. And I think,

772
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: like my hot takes on Tyler board are a lot

773
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: less hot these days, and they were like back when

774
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: everybody thought he was like the consensus one point oh

775
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: three pick and dynasty and was like a clear stud

776
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: I think that his pretty poor combine performance was was

777
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: indicative of who he is as a player. And and

778
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 1: just get into that. I mean, he doesn't he doesn't

779
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: separate from from man coverage, he doesn't get off press coverage. Well,

780
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: he's he's a great, like very mature route runner. He

781
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: looks like an NFL veteran running routes and that's that's

782
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: very impressive. But he's still not getting open at the

783
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: college level, and so that's going to be a problem

784
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: exacerbated at the pro level, you know. So to me,

785
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: I think that he definitely is a good he's good

786
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: at playing the ball in the air and he has

787
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: strong hands and that's great. But he but it's not

788
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: like an overwhelming trump card kind of type of trait

789
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: like Doxton has or Mike Evans has that if those

790
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: guys aren't open, they still can compete for the ball

791
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: in the air. I think Boyd is he's very fundamentally

792
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: sound a lot of ways, but he's just a he's

793
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: a he's a session guy, he's a possession guy. Yeah,

794
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna need the right role in the NFL to

795
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: make an impact in like just on the field and

796
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: in fantasy. I think from a real life perspective, i'd

797
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: love him on my team because he's the kind of

798
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna fight. Man. But what kind of capital

799
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: do you want to invest to? Yeah, exactly, Like he's

800
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: a guy I would take in the late third round,

801
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: fourth row. Yeah absolutely, But the problem is, like he

802
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: I think some people view him a lot higher than

803
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: that because it's just a very replaceable skill set, like

804
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: a clutch, tough guy. I mean, the Panthers got that

805
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: out of Jericho Contry the last couple of years, and

806
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: he's like a thousand years old. You know, you can

807
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: get that off the street. You can get that in

808
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: the late rounds of the draft. I just don't want

809
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: to go crazy over Tyler Boyd because I don't think

810
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: he brings any sort of like he would. He would

811
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: be great as like a third option in my past game,

812
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: like Marvin Jones was for the Bengals this year behind

813
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: a stud tight end and a stud number one receiver.

814
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: And when he's there, you can count on him, right,

815
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: like you were saying, you can get that production late

816
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: to I watched him this year, and I watched Nelson

817
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: Spruce out of Colorado and they both kind of reminded

818
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: me of the same player. Big strong guys that ran

819
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: sort of similar routes, fought for the ball. So if

820
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: if team drafts Tyler Boyd, that highly like if, because

821
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: he's projected I've seen earlier in the draft process there

822
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: he was projected at the end of the first maybe

823
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: in the second still like seriously, James, So if he

824
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: goes that, I don't overdraft him in rookie drafts and

825
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: things like that. There there, it would be definitely better

826
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: options to get later. Am I just crazy? I looked.

827
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: I watched on him for like an hour and I'm like,

828
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: did you did you watched tape from because I've heard

829
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: too I have in dope back, but people said tape

830
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: you watch both. Let me speak on that because I

831
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: think I think that is a crux that like people

832
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: that really like Tyler Boyd can lean on. And he

833
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: was certainly used in a different way this year, Like

834
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: they got him because they lost their star running back

835
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: James Conner. He had like a cancer situation, he had

836
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: to leave the team for something like that. I can't

837
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: remember correctly, but so he pretty much was their offense,

838
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: which was why he was so productive. They gave him

839
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: the ball on jet sweeps passes out of the backfield

840
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: a lot, which was just kind of silly because, as

841
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: James mentioned, he's like a possession receiver. It just that's

842
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: sort of like production profile. The fact that he had

843
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: like so many touches in the offense doesn't really move

844
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: the needle for me because it was a bad offense

845
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: and so they're getting him all these touches in in

846
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: this kind of designed way. But you also see, like

847
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: if you watch him on a route to route basis,

848
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: which means you know what I do for reception perception,

849
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: you see him running plenty of traditional routes Like that's

850
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: just something that people throw arounds and be like, no,

851
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: the last year was better, don't worry about it. I

852
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: was gonna say I couldn't speak to it, but I

853
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: I watched two and I wasn't that impressed. It's the

854
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 1: same he's the same player. I'm just like, really, watch

855
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: you watch that and you're thinking this guy's gonna go

856
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: in the first round. I think he's one of those

857
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: guys though, Like we were talking about with the production profile,

858
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: and stuff is like he and market shares. He owned

859
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: a massive amount like the pit offense his entire career,

860
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: which is great. Like production. It's it's a very impressive

861
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: UH portfolio for sure, but it just, like I mentioned,

862
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: especially on a like an objectively bad offense the last

863
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: two years, that just doesn't impress me. All Right. I

864
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: want to get to Leonte Carew out of Rutgers. Um,

865
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta be honest. I didn't watch

866
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: any Rutger game last year. I feel like it's a

867
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: fun name to say. Crew. You're the most fun name

868
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: to say in this draft I got, other than Geronimo.

869
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: This is definitely one of those key and peel like

870
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: type names. Leonte Crew. That's cool. I like it. Um. Hey,

871
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt re signed with the Patriots this morning. I

872
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: just wanted to let you guys know that sweet breaking news.

873
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: Carew is a good player, though, is he? Yeah? I

874
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: watched some of him earlier in this offseason. He was

875
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: going to the Senior Bowl, but then he got injured

876
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. He was lighting up Senior Bowl practices,

877
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: got injured, couldn't play in the game. Harmon watched him

878
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: more deeply for prospect Today. But I liked what I

879
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: saw because he's a he's a physical guy, and he's

880
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: he's fast. He can get open deep and in a

881
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: number of ways. But Harmon, you can speak a little

882
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: more deeply to his his craft as you just wrote

883
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: up the profile on him, which you can also read

884
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: an NFL dot Com slash prospect today boom Um. I

885
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: like the fact that he's a well muscled guy. He's

886
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: built like a like a bowling ball because he's short,

887
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: but he's like almost two seventeen or something. He's got

888
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: a decent amount over two sure, which I think shows

889
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: up in his game. Like he both good and bad

890
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: because he's great at releasing from the line of scrimmage.

891
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: He has a really strong like you know, there's a

892
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: lot of college receivers can't vary up their release off

893
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: press coverage. They just do the same move over and

894
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: over again, and people think that's impressive when it's really not.

895
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: But LENTI carew can go inside outside, he can do

896
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: he can release with his hands, he can release with

897
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: his feet. He's good at at getting off line of scrimmage.

898
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: He's good at at winning contested passes like he's a

899
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: he's a strong player, but also that that frame that

900
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned, like how he's kind of shortened stout longer.

901
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: Cornerbacks can get inside his frame and he'll struggle to

902
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: separate from those guys. And I think you're gonna see

903
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: a lot more of those guys in the NFL, of course.

904
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: So that's the one question I have with him is

905
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: is what is his long term upside. I don't think

906
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: he'll ever be like a number one receiver for fantasy

907
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: or for his NFL team, but he does so many

908
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: different things very well. He's also pretty solid after the

909
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: catch too. I think he'd be a great like number

910
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: two receiver, and you're gonna get him at a discount. Uh.

911
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: The one thing we don't know about is there are

912
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: some character questions with him, so that could cause him

913
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: to fall too. But I like him a lot more

914
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: like I would rather take Carew in the you know,

915
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: third round of of the NFL draft and reach for

916
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: like a Michael Thomas even or like or like late

917
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: second like if the Bengals took Carew at the end

918
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: of the second I would be for drafting. I would

919
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: like that. I about Sterling Shepherd, I think he entered

920
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: with a lot of hype. Is Harmon's boy. I was

921
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: gonna say, let's all just sit back and this is

922
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: this is I mean, Harmon, go toad. Harmon was on

923
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd back in like November. I mean he was

924
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: hyping him up way back then. Sterling Shepherd out of Oklahoma.

925
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: He had a lot of press about him, going, um,

926
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: did you think he disappointed? Did you think he overachieved?

927
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: Just about right? What's you think? I mean? I think

928
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: he delivered. I'm trying to look at what is I mean. Yeah,

929
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: he put up yards uh, eleven touchdowns, eighty six catches,

930
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: So I think that he is. He's one of my

931
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: favorites in the draft class. Of course, like not one

932
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: of my favorite sleepers, because everybody knows about Sterling Shepard.

933
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: He is the best route runner in this class, bar none.

934
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: There's no discussion to have and yeah, that's a clear

935
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: and he has the best score against man coverage and

936
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: press coverage. And he played a lot from the slot.

937
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: Six of his snaps from the slot in his college

938
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: in his final college. You actually think sixty percent, excuse me,

939
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: somewhere around that is a slot receiver in the NFL

940
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I think that he can play outside.

941
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: So you saw him take some snaps outside of Oklahoma,

942
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: and he definitely has the route running acumen to separate

943
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: from coverage outside. And also he had a pretty impressive,

944
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: more impressive combine performance than I thought he had. He

945
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: jumped over forty inches, so and that's the one question

946
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: I have with him. Like I think that he is

947
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: a good, great route runner like you mentioned, and I'm

948
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: not comparing him to Odell Beckham, but I mentioned this

949
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: in my Prospect Today article. Beckham got on the field

950
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: right away as a rookie, despite missing training camp, preseason,

951
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: the first few weeks of the regular season because he

952
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: was a great route runner, and Dave Gentleman even mentioned

953
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: that when he got drafted, called him the best route

954
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: running that class. So I think Shepherd's gonna get on

955
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: the field just like Beckham did early. But if he's

956
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna go farther along that small receiver archetype like Odell Beckham, yeah,

957
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: because he's only five ten, Yes, smaller dude needs to

958
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: improve it winning contested catches, which is something that he

959
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: did as he went on in his college career. But

960
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: the fact that he jumped that vertical inch he has,

961
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: you know that. I think he has that tangible athletic ability.

962
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: It just needs to continue to hone it. So that's

963
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: the question for me, is if he's going to be

964
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: a regular outside receivers, how can he do that? Um

965
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: the thing for fantasy purposes, It's gonna be tough at

966
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: five ten to be a regular outside guy. But you

967
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: see guys do Itham Brown, Brandon Cooks is not He's not.

968
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: He's more of a slot guy. He laid outside a bunch. Yeah,

969
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: he played outside, but he's a he's faster, I mean,

970
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: just a pure like a burner. One guy that I

971
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: think he compares pretty favorably too, is like an Emmanuel

972
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: Sanders who he plays in the slot and plays outside

973
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. But for like I mentioned for fantasy,

974
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: Purple says, I mean, Sanders was basically nothing until he

975
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: got with a certain type of quarterback in a certain

976
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: type of offense. And I could see Shephard being that

977
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: way too. All right, where should he go? He should

978
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: go to a team that heavily, that has a good

979
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: quarterback that can work on those like get him open,

980
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: you not get him open, but work on the routes

981
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: when he's open, you know, very timing based stuff. So

982
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: I mean, ideally you want to see him like in

983
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: Green Bay or Dallas. Atlanta would be a good spot,

984
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: um because he could play that sort of slot flank

985
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: er sort of thing. Alternate with Mohammed Sannu. I don't know.

986
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think and just anywhere with a good quarterback.

987
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: You don't want to see him go like to Cleveland

988
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: or something like that. That would be a disaster. I

989
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: think maybe we should hit a couple of these other

990
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: guys super quick and then then had adapts. Let me

991
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: ask you this, who in the world is Daniel Braverman. Oh,

992
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: here we go. He is okay, So I don't know

993
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: if he saw this James. A couple of weeks ago,

994
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter went like, oh man, he's like

995
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: I just talked to a GM or like a personnel guy.

996
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: He told me about this sleeper nobody's talking about. He's like,

997
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: I went and watched him. Kid can flat out ball,

998
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: but I can't say who he is. And then like

999
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: a week after that, everybody was talking about Daniel Braverman

1000
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: and DJ was like, well, I guess it's out. Secrets out,

1001
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: So it's Daniel Braverman, odda Central Michigan. He is small.

1002
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: He's also like five ten only like a buck seventy

1003
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: year eighty. But this guy man can play like you

1004
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: put on the tape. He's coming out of Central Western Michigan.

1005
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: Excuse me, you're like, okay, whatever, Like not a great program,

1006
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: but he against top competition in the Big ten, went

1007
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: to work. He put up like over over ten catches

1008
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: and over a hundred yards and I think a touchdown

1009
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: against both Michigan State and Ohio State this year. So

1010
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 1: he is super quick out of the slot. He's got

1011
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: great feet, um he's able to get separation like that.

1012
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: He's fearless going over the middle even though he's a

1013
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: smaller guy, and he's got good route combinations where he

1014
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: can still get open deep even though he doesn't have

1015
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 1: elite speed. So, like his athletic profile is somewhere between

1016
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman. He's not as great of an athlete as

1017
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: Edelman in but he's a little better of an athlete

1018
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: than Jarvis Landry. So he's the kind of guy to

1019
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: keep keep an eye on because if he comes in

1020
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: and gets in the right offense, like a lot of

1021
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: these guys. He might now make a huge impact in

1022
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: year one. He might have a couple of weeks for

1023
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: dfs and stuff, but he could be a guy that

1024
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: actually is. He's a dynamite in the red zone too.

1025
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: He scored a ton of his touchdowns in the red

1026
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: zone because he's so quick people. You know, he makes

1027
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: one one step one way and the defenders already off

1028
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: of them. Who in the hell is Richard Higgins out

1029
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: of Colorado quick? He? I wrote about him for my

1030
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: for for Prospect Today and I also wrote like a

1031
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: more in depth why he's really important to reception perception.

1032
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: He's a guy for Colorado State was incredibly productive. He

1033
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: scored like Christine reception perception scores. But as Christine Christine,

1034
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean a guy that to my I'm gonna trust

1035
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: my process and think that he is a future NFL player.

1036
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: But if you look at his combine numbers dreadful. I

1037
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: mean what was of spark athletes. So again to quote

1038
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: zacch Whipman, there he has. He's like a once every

1039
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: couple of years leap of faith player. Those guys basically

1040
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: get cut. But he's so great in my process that

1041
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: I have to at least be intrigued by him. All right,

1042
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: there you go, um sharone peak real quick please Clemson

1043
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: wide receivers and I right, am, I right wrap it up?

1044
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: What do you need to say? He's just saying because

1045
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: he's he's a good guys, a good combination of size

1046
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: and speed. He wasn't used a ton in different ways

1047
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: at Clemson. So I'm kind of curious to see if

1048
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: he gets into the right spot at the in the NFL,

1049
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: if he could develop a little more and expand his

1050
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: expand his route tree and use him in different ways,

1051
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: because he is an intriguing athlete and he was pretty

1052
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: darn good at Clemson. He was a highly recruited guy. Yes,

1053
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: injuries kind of derailed him in also the depth depth too.

1054
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean it hurts when you got to come behind.

1055
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: That's that's not easy. But injury has definitely slowed him

1056
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: down as well. But he was a very highly recruited guy.

1057
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: I see Farrell Cooper on here on South Carolina. Just

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00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: my quick take on Pharaoll Cooper is non impressed. Um,

1059
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: sort of jack of all trades, master of none. I

1060
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: don't see him having a role in the NFL at all.

1061
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: I think that's his I think that's his thing is

1062
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: that he doesn't really have a role. I watched him

1063
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: and they asked him to do a lot at South Carolina.

1064
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean he was their wildcat quarterback, He returned punts,

1065
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: he was a wide receiver. I mean, he did a

1066
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. The problem is that I think

1067
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: because he was asked to do so much, he never

1068
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: got to focus on being really good at any one thing.

1069
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, at the next level, if anything,

1070
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: he is, I mean he's a special teams guy. I

1071
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: don't know that he has a fantasy impact right from

1072
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: what I've read, he may get drafted based purely off

1073
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: of character. He's supposed to be an awesome dude, but

1074
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: skills wise, from what I saw as a wide receiver,

1075
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: I just all right. And then last one, harmon Malcolm Mitchell. Yeah,

1076
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: Malcolm Mitchell and as well as Richard Higgins are like

1077
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: my my sleepers, my guys, especially Mitchell. Um, he is

1078
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: so underrated? Is he the guy that just tested out

1079
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: of control at the combine? He had a solid forty

1080
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,959
Speaker 1: four four five and also had like a broad jump

1081
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: that was I think in the percentile, incredibly explosive lower

1082
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: body also has giant hands. He has like over ten

1083
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: in ch hands. I wish you guys could. I wish

1084
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: we had video on this. Harmon did like jazz hands,

1085
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: almost giant hands, and I think I think his hand

1086
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: sizes in the percentile for wide receive. His hands a

1087
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: huge hands, A huge you know what that means. He's

1088
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: really good at catching the football ten and a half hands, Yeah,

1089
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: I mean so and and but I think that those

1090
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: combine numbers really embody who he is as a player.

1091
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he has solid play speed, but great explosion

1092
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: in routes can create easy separation, changing directions. And he's

1093
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: also has one of some of the best hands of

1094
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: the class. He's good at tracking the ball, has good

1095
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: ball skills and contested situations. This is a guy that

1096
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: I think is overlooked because George is a run heavy offense.

1097
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: That's why they keep churning out all these good running backs.

1098
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: And uh, I think that Mitchell gets overlooked. He had

1099
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: an injury and that he came back from one a

1100
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: ton of awards from the team, or like fighting through

1101
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: that injury being just an overall good duty. He wrote

1102
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: a children's book already for God's Draft. The man out.

1103
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: But I mean he's a reception perception stud. Has top

1104
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: five scores against man coverage, top seven scores against press

1105
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: and zone coverage. I mean, the guy is just solid

1106
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: all around. I think he could be really surprising. There

1107
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: you go. That's interesting to find that his reception perception

1108
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: with just his flat out combine numbers, that's interesting. And

1109
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: his children book writing and his children as well. But

1110
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: it seems to me like that this would be a

1111
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: guy that absolute deep fleeper potential, no doubt about it.

1112
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: Love him all right. That was our wide receiver deep dive.

1113
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: I hope you guys learned something for more on those.

1114
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: Most of these guys that actually think all of them

1115
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: are profiled on NFL dot com slash prospect today. Hit

1116
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: us up on Twitter with questions about these other things.

1117
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: We're all happy to help in dynasty drafts and stuff,

1118
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: but to other notes that I want to get out

1119
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: there please. All right, So preactivate your league, yes, preact

1120
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: Are we still doing that promotion? Yes? If you prectivate

1121
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: your league before by April, so you gotta have about

1122
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: ten days NFL dot com slash activate. I believe if

1123
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: you preactivate your league you are in the running uh

1124
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: to get like props upgraded. You can upgrade upgraded to

1125
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: NFL Experienced League, which are ones where your league champion

1126
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: can get like a replica Super Bowl ring that you

1127
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: I think you guys can design for your fantasy league

1128
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: and autograph footballs and autograph footballs and jerseys and stuff

1129
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: like that. I think you pick what it is. But

1130
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: if you preactivate, your league doesn't doesn't put anything on you.

1131
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: All you do is click activate and then your league

1132
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: is ready and they'll email you when drafts are open

1133
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: and stuff. Later this year, get a chance to get

1134
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: upgraded for some cool stuff, which is great. Why not

1135
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash activate is that one, uh? And

1136
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: the other one is Reception Perception. Where can we find it?

1137
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: You can find it, uh. You can use the hashtag

1138
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: hashtag reception Perception. You can also find it on my

1139
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: webs everything that every reception perception piece of content, whether

1140
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: it's at another place or not, we'll get linked back

1141
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: to my website in the backyard Banter dot com. All right,

1142
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: don't get confused by the podcast, which is fabulous by

1143
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: the way. Oh thank you. I am definitely going to

1144
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: have all three of you guys on at some point

1145
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: you just had Adam Rankin. I was listening to the

1146
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: first like twenty minutes to the topic was never addressed,

1147
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: like because also apparently he was in a in a

1148
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: iis cave. Yeah, I think he was in the podcast studio,

1149
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: but like he recorded the whole thing with like his

1150
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: phone under his chin. Further again, you know, leading to

1151
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: the idea that we might be the same person. Exactly

1152
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: how easy is that to fix it? Post? Let me

1153
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 1: come on completely. I like it. No, I really appreciate

1154
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: that though. Yeah, please listen to the podcast. Subscribe. We're

1155
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: sponsoring podcast. It's amazing. It's a sponsored deal, which is amazing.

1156
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: The podcast actually has nothing to do though, with reception perception.

1157
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with football. Well, it's something

1158
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: to do with football. Like basically, what I'm doing is

1159
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm interviewing people, you know, like us that work in

1160
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: in the in the industry in sports writing or sports

1161
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: media or fantasy football or whatever, asking him how they

1162
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: got to where they are so that you can kind

1163
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: of give a template to you know, aspiring writers and

1164
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: people that want to do this to get these stories.

1165
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: But it's also people that have no interest in becoming

1166
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: football writers have said that the stories are just well

1167
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: worth listening to. Yeah, I find that interesting. It's a

1168
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: very popular podcast, um bro. We were like top five

1169
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: and new and noteworthy on iTunes. And I know, I

1170
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: really it's been I just kind of thought it was

1171
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: just gonna be something I piddle around with season to

1172
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: take up some time. But it's really gotten some trash.

1173
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of Yeah, it's been a lot

1174
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: of fun. I really appreciate everybody it's listened. If you

1175
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you haven't like, please check it out.

1176
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: I think the stories are well worth it. And I mean,

1177
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: you have to put up with me for an hour,

1178
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: but you barely talk though it's everybody else I tried to.

1179
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: That's been a great as a person, as an incredibly selfish,

1180
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: egotistical person, it's been a great lesson to not to

1181
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: be in the host chair and just like, alright, Harmon,

1182
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: you have to shut that person talk. That's the backyard

1183
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: Banter podcast. You can fire stuff. But should we get

1184
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: to some daily dappsapp and get out all right? Daily

1185
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: DAP time. We'll start with the man from West Virginia

1186
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: Reception Reception King Matt Harmon himself what's up? I gotta

1187
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: scroll to pull out here. I'm in daily No, I'm

1188
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: just kidding. I want to first infirm, foremost adapt you

1189
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: guys for having me back on the podcast and my

1190
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: Wilderness month. So I appreciate that. Um. And speaking of wilderness,

1191
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: I want to I want to give adapt to plant Twitter. Um.

1192
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: If you have been following me again, I'm sorry, you'll

1193
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: notice that I have taken up trying to build the

1194
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: greatest balcony garden balcony uh, balcony garden in the great

1195
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: Los Angeles area. Galharna his apartment, uh, which I can

1196
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: confirm I live with Alex Gelhard, not Johnny Manziel. I'm

1197
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: not von Miller or Joshuarn Uh. He doesn't answer our

1198
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 1: But so I want to adapt plant Twitter for for

1199
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: accepting me, um or at least me trying to be

1200
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: the founding member of plant Twitter. I've got a lot

1201
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: of I got some vegetables out there, some flowers that

1202
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: are just in full bloom. You know, this is the offseason.

1203
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: It's a time to time to experiment with with with

1204
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: different hobbies and and that's really been uh, that's been mine.

1205
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm all into it. I have one simple question. For sure,

1206
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: when did you become such a hipster? Well, okay, that's

1207
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: an undergrowing your own plants, that's an unfair plants. What

1208
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: do you talk? Many people grow? The guy's got beard

1209
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: oil for days. I mean, what's going on? And I

1210
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: do it? I do it? Um, Listen, I grew up

1211
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: my mom and I that was like our thing. We

1212
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: have a very impressive garden back at her house. And

1213
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: you know I haven't been able to channel that living

1214
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: in apartments ever since then. I figured, hey, I got

1215
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: the time. Um, speaking of my mom's house, I'm gonna

1216
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: be driving across the country in a couple in about

1217
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: a month here so far, anybody wants me to, anybody

1218
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,479
Speaker 1: wants to host me, Charlie, trust me and my dog

1219
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: send me an email as I'm as I'm driving across

1220
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: the country. But and hopefully gal hard water is my plants.

1221
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: Well I'm gone, dude. If I come back and the

1222
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: plants are dead, I'm gonna be pissed. Now, I'm just kidding.

1223
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gone for a couple of weeks to

1224
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: talk about I'm gonna go back to Whisco, all right,

1225
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: James will come by and one of the Plants, I

1226
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: probably will not. Well, Johnny will be there. I guess

1227
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: anything else Man Harmon, I mean that's pretty good. That's

1228
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: a good one. That's pretty good. I'm the only other

1229
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: thing I'll DApp is is. My favorite band to listen

1230
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: to right now is Dawes. If you haven't checked them out,

1231
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: They're fantastic, great, um some of the best like just

1232
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: lyrics that fit the sound of the music right now.

1233
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: They're They're my favorite band that came with an album

1234
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: last year and it was really great. Some just straight

1235
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: fire tracks on that beautiful m Marcus Crau couple adapts

1236
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: one daily DApps to Kobe Bryant and I have never

1237
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: been a Lakers fan, but look, I say what you

1238
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: want about Kobe. The guy's ending an amazing, amazing career.

1239
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: It ends on Wednesday nights and also at the same

1240
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: time that my Golden State Warriors will set the NBA

1241
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: record wins in a regular season. Um, but you know

1242
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: that's there's a copy on a great career. Also, my

1243
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: real dab is to what is going what is being

1244
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: called right now the greatest car chase in l A history.

1245
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna was gonna adapt this too. So let's just

1246
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: get in. Let's just get it out of the way. Alright,

1247
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: let's a car chase. I don't know if you you

1248
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: worked in the office for this, James, I know I

1249
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: was sad. If you follow us on Twitter, you realize

1250
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: that the NFL media newsroom shuts down essentially whenever there's

1251
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: a car chase in Los ange Did this guy go

1252
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: the opposite way at any point, like right away? No, Remember,

1253
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: we pulled it up and he was already going right away.

1254
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: This was This was on a semi rainy day in

1255
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. These two suspects had allegedly burgled the home.

1256
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: Burgled is one of the best, and then they stole

1257
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: They stole a convertible and drove around in the rain

1258
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: with a convertible top down. Love it Uh. Went to Hollywood,

1259
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: where they got off the freeway on Hollywood Boulevard, which

1260
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: is one of the major tourists thoroughfare busy street. Not

1261
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: a good idea if you're trying to elude the cup. Really,

1262
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: but not only did he get off the freeway, they

1263
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 1: did donuts in the middle of Hollywood Boulevard. Hit donut

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Speaker 1: in the middle Holly Boulevard, as they are you know,

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01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: standing on top of the seats driving, you know, making

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Speaker 1: hand gestures of all kind. This was a rap video,

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Speaker 1: was it not? It might have been. It might have been.

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Speaker 1: And so if that wasn't crazy enough. As they get

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Speaker 1: back on the one on one south, which is another

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Speaker 1: tactical error because of the traffic on in the afternoon,

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Speaker 1: sure they were nearly boxed in by a passenger car

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Speaker 1: and the TMZ bus. Oh, the TMZ this was a

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Speaker 1: game change. This was a game changer. With the TMZ

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Speaker 1: bus showed up. They were trying to pass the TMZ

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Speaker 1: bus and he just kind of swerved and blocked off

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Speaker 1: their lane, so they had to stop. They threw like

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Speaker 1: a cheeseburger at the TMZ bus. One of the cars

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Speaker 1: left allowed them to continue their escape. They eventually went

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Speaker 1: back to uh I guess their neighborhood in uh In

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Speaker 1: in South Alton and hitting a spikes trip and the

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Speaker 1: tire was based off. But they drove for another like

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Speaker 1: three four miles one tires, UH And then when they

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Speaker 1: stopped finally they just parked in front of a house

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Speaker 1: and UH took some selfies, sat on the they sat

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Speaker 1: on the hood of the car and waiting for the

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Speaker 1: cops and people came out and took photos and high fives.

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Speaker 1: Was pretty much a block party until the authorities arrived

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Speaker 1: about ten minutes later. They were plot twists. There was excitement.

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Speaker 1: It was great. This was the most l a car

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Speaker 1: chase ever getting. Was that not a hip hop video?

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Speaker 1: That's gotta be a hip hop that somebody's got to

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Speaker 1: make this into a video. No, I'm thinking that's what

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Speaker 1: it really is. Like. They probably shot this on their

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Speaker 1: cell phone. They're gonna edit this in post. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be great. And actually, I mean not only that, but

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Speaker 1: because it's stretched stretched us a long distance, our own franchise.

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Speaker 1: Matt Franciscovitch. They went near his apartment in Hollywood. He

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Speaker 1: ran out to the corner and snapchatted the cars zooming

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Speaker 1: past it. I like it. It was. It was pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: DAPs to Japs, to those guys, they're gonna be in

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Speaker 1: jail for a while, but at least it was worth it.

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Speaker 1: But DAPs to them. Nobody got hurt and it was

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Speaker 1: wildly entertaining. There you go. Like I said, the thing is,

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Speaker 1: I've worked in local news for a long time and

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Speaker 1: I've seen many a car chase and it's so funny,

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01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: like the the It's true the NFL media newsroom loves

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01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: a car chase, but I've been so decense tied to it.

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Speaker 1: I tell I tell these guys straight away. I'm like, look, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even turning on my television until they go

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Speaker 1: the opposite way on the street. That's true. It's true.

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Speaker 1: Car chases, aren't. I mean literally, like they've show them

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Speaker 1: all the time on the local and they're they're never

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Speaker 1: interesting until the driver is willing to go the wrong way.

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Speaker 1: And I think why the news room gets so excited

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Speaker 1: for him because we've seen so many, you know, we

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Speaker 1: know all the twists. It's like he's going where, Oh

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Speaker 1: he's done. You think our prospect that they breakdowns are deep?

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Speaker 1: You should see our car chase breakdowns. Uh great, whizz kid,

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Speaker 1: what's up? I was going to adapt the car chase too,

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Speaker 1: so I got part of that. And then what also

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Speaker 1: just throwing adapt for is that it's a Coachella week

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Speaker 1: is officially upon us. I'm going I'm going this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'll be taken off Thursday night and Marcus and NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Live producer Hytheen Kilani are going up, and franchises

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Speaker 1: are going up next weekend. So what is it like

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Speaker 1: to be young? I have no idea, but I'm going.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to Coachella anyway, I'm not going. Marks

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: and I are both going to our first Coachella this year,

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Speaker 1: so it will be interesting. I'm I'm just wait, wait, wait, Marcus,

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Speaker 1: you've never been to Coachella. I've been to Bonnaroo but

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Speaker 1: and a couple of other festivals, but never Coachella. Really, really,

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Speaker 1: you're a USC guy. You never just got in the car. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean when I was in at USC, Coachella I

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Speaker 1: don't think was a thing. Oh yeah, come on A

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Speaker 1: long time. I mean, not that I've ever gone because

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Speaker 1: I hate music festivals. But I'm with you. See, that's

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Speaker 1: why I've never gone either. I've been on for like

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Speaker 1: five years now because I am not a huge music

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Speaker 1: festival fan, but I've had hythem and my other buddy

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Speaker 1: Adam has been nagging me for years to go. And

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Speaker 1: then once Guns and Roses signed up to go, I

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm done. I would have paid the weekend

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Speaker 1: admission price for Coachella for one G and R show,

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01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: So nothing better to drag you to have a bunch

1345
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: of idiots. Then listening to an old has been banned.

1346
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: Nothing would get me more fired up, save your fiery guns.

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Speaker 1: And I like, good for the record, coach that was starting. Okay,

1348
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: so I was I graduated, I was out of school,

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01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: but were you? I was eight? All right, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's it for me, James, What do you gotta dat?

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01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: How about the new trailer for Rogue one. I think

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Speaker 1: Rogue one looks really good, pretty good. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: really honestly, honestly, I truly believe it looks like it's

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Speaker 1: going to be better. Uh oh, I think it could

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Speaker 1: be in episode seven. And I love Felicity Johnson. She's

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Speaker 1: better than episode seven actress, the one that she came

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Speaker 1: out of that episode? Is this the Star Wars. Yes,

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01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: you've been too busy with plants, clearly. Uh you know.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing about I don't know why. But

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Speaker 1: the longer it is that I've that I've seen episode seven,

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Speaker 1: the worst it becomes in my mind. I could have

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Speaker 1: told you this, and we were watching it a little

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01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: bit last night and it was still it fell in

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01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: the blue right, fell in my card at Target? What

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01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: but so do when you watched it back. I mean,

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01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: well it was. It was even the case when I

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Speaker 1: watched it again in theaters afterwards. It had I well,

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Speaker 1: I was like I enjoyed that. I very much enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the first experience, but I wasn't like over the moon.

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Speaker 1: And then subsequent times I was like, this is still good.

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01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: My whole thing was like it checked the right boxes.

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Speaker 1: It got people excited again. They want the next one now, though,

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01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: because this one was just such a nostalgia play and

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01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: it was formulaic from all the other movies, and that's fine,

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01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: get people in, introduced the new characters past the tour.

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01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: I think it's the formula stuff that that That's why

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01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: when I look back at it, and the further I

1378
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: get away from like just the initial like oh my god,

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: it's here when that music hits in there, and you're like,

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Speaker 1: the further I get away from that, and the more

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Speaker 1: I think about just the actual movie itself, the worst

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01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: I kind of think of it. You know. So no,

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01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: like some people were putting it way up there, I'd

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01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: still put it below the It's in between the original

1385
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: trilogy and the prequels for me. There you go. Alright,

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: So anyways, that Raila for Rogue one. I really truly,

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01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: honestly believe it looks really good and I've got really

1388
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: high expectations and hopes for it. So well, we shall see.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for our show today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listen. We think that, Harmon

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01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: for stopping by for MGM. My got Marcus Grant and

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Speaker 1: the Whisker from Wisconsin. Alas Gattlehard. I'm James Co. We're out.