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Speaker 1: Welcome to stagefield, everyone.

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Speaker 2: We are getting more evidence that radical judges aren't going

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Speaker 2: away anytime soon. You know, when Congress passes a bill

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Speaker 2: directing where the federal government to spend money, that's actually

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Speaker 2: a constitutional.

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Speaker 1: Duty of Congress.

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Speaker 2: We've now got an Obama appointed judge in Massachusetts who's

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Speaker 2: trying to upend the Big Beautiful Bill as it's known,

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Speaker 2: and the portion of that bill that basically works to

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Speaker 2: defund Planned Parenthood, the abortion factory that we know of

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Speaker 2: as Planned Parenthood. So in the bill, it says in

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Speaker 2: any state takes eight hundred thousand dollars or more in

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Speaker 2: federal funding from the federal government, that they cannot spend

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Speaker 2: any money on nonprofits that engage in abortions, specifically the

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Speaker 2: Medicare Medicaid provision, basically defunding the abortion process. That is

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Speaker 2: a good thing, but throw that aside and just look

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Speaker 2: at the Constitution. Congress is tasked with directing where we

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Speaker 2: spend money, not federal judges. This federal judge issue we

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Speaker 2: a temporary restraining order, meaning that the government must still

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Speaker 2: fund Planned Parenthood, is literally a takeover, a hijacking of

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Speaker 2: the federal government. This is judge Depolitano on Newsmax.

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Speaker 3: Now, the legislation the President signed on the fourth of

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Speaker 3: July does not mention Planned Parenthood by name, but it

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Speaker 3: does prohibit the Department of Health and Human Services from

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Speaker 3: funding any organizations even if if they provide services to

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Speaker 3: the poor for sexual related matters, if they also pay

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Speaker 3: for abortions. That is for Congress to decide. That is

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Speaker 3: not for a federal judge to decide. Under the constitution.

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Speaker 3: Congress decides how to spend the money.

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Speaker 2: See what this radical judge writes. Her name is Indira Talwanne.

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Speaker 2: She writes, quote can we put it up on the screen?

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Speaker 2: Please tear out three? She writes, and I quote plaintiffs

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Speaker 2: declarations established that widespread disruptions to patient care would occur

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Speaker 2: in the absence of temporary restraint of a temporary restraining order.

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Speaker 2: Disruption or delays in receiving healthcare is irreparable harm. Now,

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Speaker 2: it is not for a judge to decide how quickly

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Speaker 2: someone gets care or does it get care, or where

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Speaker 2: the money gets spent, or where the money does he

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Speaker 2: get spent. That is solely the job of Congress. And

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Speaker 2: really that's indisputable. This woman will get smacked down. It

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Speaker 2: may not be the next appeals court, but by the

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Speaker 2: time this gets to an appeals court that actually respects

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Speaker 2: the rule of law, this will most certainly be smacked down.

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Speaker 2: So again, this is an end run around Congress. And

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Speaker 2: in many respects, the left did what it does best.

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Speaker 2: It went and sought out a radical judge to rule

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Speaker 2: in their favor and then send us fighting against her.

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Speaker 2: This is Democrats, how they get it wrong every time.

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Speaker 4: Why do you believe this provision in the Big Beautiful

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Speaker 4: Bill is unconstitutional? Yes, so, we fundamentally believe that people

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Speaker 4: should be able to access care where they want to.

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Speaker 4: If they have Medicaid, they have a right to be

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Speaker 4: able to exercise that care, to go get that care

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Speaker 4: and have that covered by Medicaid. And this is frankly

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Speaker 4: a blatant attack on plin parenthood and most importantly on

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Speaker 4: our patients.

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Speaker 2: You know, when someone starts out with all respect, it's

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Speaker 2: usually a slam down coming, which to all due respect

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Speaker 2: to that congresswoman, she's a dumbass. She does not know

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Speaker 2: anything about the Constitution. Where in the Constitution does it

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Speaker 2: say that the people of America must be provided with

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Speaker 2: health care?

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Speaker 1: Don't say anything about healthcare.

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Speaker 2: The government can decide to come up with these types

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Speaker 2: of programs, or they can take away these.

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Speaker 1: Types of programs.

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Speaker 2: They're not constitutional, and the government can decide where it

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Speaker 2: wants to spend money. So I saw a piece in

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Speaker 2: Real Clear Politics where the author spelled this out in

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Speaker 2: a brilliant fashion. I want to get him on the program,

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Speaker 2: which is exactly.

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Speaker 1: What we did.

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Speaker 2: He is the founder of the international consulting firm SMI Group.

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Speaker 2: He's an attorney who wrote that piece in Real Clear Politics.

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Speaker 1: Kennan Spivik is with us. Kenen, great to have you

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Speaker 1: on the program. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: All right, you wrote this piece of real clear politics.

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Speaker 2: Am I right that there's nothing in the constitution that

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Speaker 2: says people are guaranteed healthcare, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Let me make this clear too before.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe abortion is healthcare, by the way, so

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Speaker 2: let's get that out of the way as well.

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Speaker 1: Take it away, my friend.

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Speaker 5: Okay, there's nothing in the Constitution that says that. There's

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Speaker 5: a Supreme Court case in nineteen ninety one that said,

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Speaker 5: even if something is constitutionally required, there is no obligation

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Speaker 5: on the part of the government, on the part of

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Speaker 5: Congress to fund it. There are multiple Supreme Court cases

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Speaker 5: saying the government has no obligation to fund abortion. The

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Speaker 5: systematically made the point that the government is not going

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Speaker 5: to fund abortion. There is not a single case in

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Speaker 5: the plaintiff's complaint or in their application for a temporary

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Speaker 5: restraining order, not a single case in which the Supreme

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Speaker 5: order against the Congress of the United States and the

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Speaker 5: executing branch of the United States to stop a duly

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Speaker 5: authorized congressional law that determined what to appropriate spending for

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Speaker 2: So a federal judge hijacked the purse strings of the

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Speaker 2: federal government. Was simply one temporary restraining order. How was

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Speaker 2: that even possible? And yet apparently, I guess this could

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Speaker 2: happen all the time with these radical judges. You go

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Speaker 2: to the right judge, they'll do whatever you want.

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Speaker 5: And these lawyers, and I have to tell you, I

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Speaker 5: work with some of Planned Parenthood's lawyers, obviously not Unplanned Parenthood,

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Speaker 5: and they're very good, very smart lawyers, and they won

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Speaker 5: a stunning victory here because they won a victory they

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Speaker 5: never should have won, and it's because they went to Massachusetts.

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Speaker 5: They selected a judge who hates Donald Trump. This is

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Speaker 5: the same judge that held that a twelve year old

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Speaker 5: child couldn't wear a T shirt that's said.

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Speaker 1: There are only two genders.

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Speaker 5: This is the same judge that said that Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: couldn't deport illegal immigrants back to Cuba and Dominican Republic

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Speaker 5: and all sorts of other places that they had come from.

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Speaker 5: This is a judge who substituted her political opinion for

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Speaker 5: the law. And I want to make a point here,

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Speaker 5: it's really very important. My anger about what she did

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Speaker 5: really doesn't have a lot to do with abortion or

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Speaker 5: planned parenthood, and nothing to do with the super bright

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Speaker 5: attorneys who figured out how to win a victory that

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Speaker 5: will only last a very short while. My anger is

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Speaker 5: about a judge who thinks that she is in charge

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Speaker 5: of the United States of America. That Article one of

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Speaker 5: the Constitution, which requires that the Congress appropriates spending, doesn't

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Speaker 5: mean what it says. And one last point, there's a

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Speaker 5: that said Article one means what it says, this judge

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Speaker 5: has run a muck. This judge should be impeached.

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Speaker 1: She won't be.

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Speaker 5: This judge will simply become an icon to the far

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Speaker 2: I can't help but think Republicans can't do this because

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Speaker 2: if you run to a conservative judge, they literally look

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Speaker 2: to the Constitution and make a decision. They're not going

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Speaker 2: to play this game, even with fellow conservatives. If you

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Speaker 2: not going to work. So clearly liberals have the upper

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Speaker 2: hand in this. And lastly, I'll ask you. I read

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Speaker 2: in your piece she didn't even hear from the government

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Speaker 5: What she did was so outrageous. There are procedures that

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Speaker 5: are required to issue a temporary restraining order. Now those

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Speaker 5: procedures have nothing to do with who's right and wrong,

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Speaker 5: but they're just procedures.

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Speaker 1: She didn't follow any of those procedures.

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Speaker 5: Now, those procedures do allow it's called an ex partey order.

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Speaker 5: It's an order where you don't hear from the other side.

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Speaker 5: But the burden. The requirements for issuing an X party

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Speaker 1: She ignored them all.

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Speaker 5: When the government came in and pointed out to her

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Speaker 5: an amended tro which didn't make any legal or constitutional sense.

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Speaker 5: But she at least now filled in all the technical defects.

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Speaker 1: So that's great.

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Speaker 5: Six or seven days late, she filled in the technical defects.

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Speaker 5: She's still trying to control the government of the United

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Speaker 5: States based on arguments. Three arguments in particular, every single

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Speaker 5: one of which is wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm confident, as.

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Speaker 2: You are in your piece that this will be overturned

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Speaker 2: fairly quickly. But still it goes to show you these

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Speaker 2: run around the Constitution, but it's a hijacking of our

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Speaker 2: own government. Kennethmibick, I appreciate you coming on great piece,

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Speaker 2: and they can find it on everybody out there in

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Speaker 2: real clear politics.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate you. Thanks for having me. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I want to turn now briefly to what is turning

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Speaker 2: out to be one of the largest deportation initiatives in

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Speaker 1: Now I'm not talking about America.

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Speaker 2: By the way, what you're looking at there is a

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Speaker 2: deportation effort that is underway in Iran. Iran is deporting

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Speaker 2: Afghani's at a rate that shames the United States on

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Speaker 2: our rate of deporting illegal aliens here. How do we

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Speaker 2: know this well, our man Oscar Ramirez, usually on the

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Speaker 2: five from Jerusalem, Real America's Voice correspondent, Oscar Ramirez is here.

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Speaker 1: Oscar, welcome to the program. Rand As. It was an

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Speaker 1: honor to be with you. Thank you for the invitation.

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you being up very late with us.

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Speaker 2: It's early in the morning there where you are. Why

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Speaker 2: don't you tell me what you found, Explain this situation

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Speaker 2: with Iran and their deportation efforts, and what do you

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Speaker 2: think America can take away from this?

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Speaker 6: Well, I was up in the Golden Heights border with Syria.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of activity right now in the border

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Speaker 6: with Syria, and we received the news that the Iranian

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Speaker 6: government it is now executing the largest deportation in the world,

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Speaker 6: and nobody in the West, and I'm meaning nobody in

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Speaker 6: the West, the West media, the progressive, mercenary activist media.

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Speaker 6: Nobody's talking about it. Why because it goes against their narrative.

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Speaker 6: This is the Iranian government. Basically they're putting and executing,

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Speaker 6: and they already put a deadline and for more than

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Speaker 6: four million Afghans to tell them, if you don't get

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Speaker 6: out by this amount of time, we are going to

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Speaker 6: kick you out. They already have a number, you know,

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Speaker 6: during the week, two hundred and fifty six thousand. It

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Speaker 6: saying that they this ultimately this only week, they are

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Speaker 1: Kick it up a notch.

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Speaker 6: Already, international organizations, the United Nations and oh I am

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Speaker 6: already begging for more money to attend this. They want

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Speaker 6: to call it a crisis. It's just the Iranian government.

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Speaker 6: Two things that they said grand it is unsustainable one

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Speaker 6: they're doing it for security reasons. So if you do

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Speaker 6: this in the United States of America, you already know

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Speaker 6: what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Right now currently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, American democrats are screaming and yelling about.

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Speaker 1: The deportation effort here.

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Speaker 2: They some reason seem to want to protect Iran as

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Speaker 2: But I got to ask you, Oscar, why would Afghanis

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Speaker 6: Well, it was the only place for them to protection

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Speaker 1: You know, these kind of situations.

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Speaker 6: Are right now focusing on expelling and executing the largest

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Speaker 6: And it is crazy that in the West you don't

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Speaker 2: Last question for you. You've got some video for us.

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Speaker 2: I want to roll it and let you explain to

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Speaker 1: Explain to me what we're looking at. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 6: That right there, that little boater wall that you see,

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Speaker 6: and it is put there under the American tax may or.

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Speaker 1: Its just totally ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: The United States of America needs US up funding the

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Speaker 6: And this particular it right there. It is just a

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Speaker 2: Fascinating stuff. Oscar Ramrez. Doesn't matter where you are in

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Speaker 2: the world, you're always bringing us fabulous news to unpack.

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Speaker 2: The news isn't always good, but it's always solid work

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Speaker 2: Oscar Amerz. Thank you, my friend, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Granted it's aways around it to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Uh, the honest mind please has always stay safe in

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Speaker 2: these dangerous places that you find yourself in so often.

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Speaker 1: For real America's voice here in all our viewers. All right,

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Speaker 1: I want to turn now to you. Know this podcaster

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Speaker 1: Sean Ryan.

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Speaker 2: I wondered how he burst onto the scene so quickly

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Speaker 1: And I have questions about this guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's still working for the intelligence community,

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Speaker 2: for the deep state. Well, he brings in Governor Gavin

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, as a guy who used to work for

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Speaker 1: So everybody gets a gift. Oh jeez, what do you got? Man?

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Speaker 1: Here we go. You ready for this? Look Jesus ready

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Speaker 1: for this. This is an accent. I got to report

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Speaker 1: this gift man. That is so that is a California compliant.

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Speaker 2: Oh big sour, this is eight three sixty five macro.

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Speaker 7: Come on, man, I don't know exactly what makes by

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Speaker 7: the way this is this is too cool. The fact

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Speaker 7: that you would give me this, You like that?

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Speaker 1: This up?

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Speaker 7: So you just want me to tsa to take this

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Speaker 2: So he gives them a California compliance sig so hour,

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Speaker 2: which is quite Galvenus has probably never held a firearm

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Speaker 2: in his life. The fact that it's California compliant, to me,

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Speaker 2: is offensive with what California has done to minimize the

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Speaker 2: not only capacity of these firearms, but their ability to

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Speaker 7: You know what last thing people would expect is that

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Speaker 7: I respect this gift.

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Speaker 1: Really, I appreciate that man. I'm not an anti gun

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Speaker 7: Think vast majority of folks in the right and the

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Speaker 7: with some common sense around background checks. I think there's

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Speaker 7: an age appropriateness. I do have some you know, I'm

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Speaker 7: challenged by large capacity magazine clips and urban centers, and

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Speaker 7: you know, weapons of war that are out.

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Speaker 2: There again avenuesome. You don't care about what we think,

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Speaker 2: because I've told you a million times they're not clips,

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Speaker 2: an AR fifteen that's a semi automatic fire. I'm not automatic.

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Speaker 2: They're not weapons of war. This is a clear fact.

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Speaker 2: But again he lies because that man has signed over

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Speaker 2: seventy pieces of legislation to take away your Second Amendment right.

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Speaker 2: I want to bring in now a guy who knows

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Speaker 2: about all this full well gun. Breitbart columnist AWR Hawkins

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Speaker 1: AWR, welcome back. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of this interview, Awr?

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Speaker 1: Same thing you did.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he says he's a pro Second Amendment, and

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Speaker 8: then he goes on to push background checks, a age

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Speaker 8: requirement limit to purchase firearms. He pushes his legislation against

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Speaker 8: AR fifteens, and as you say, he pushes a ban

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Speaker 8: on magazine clips.

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Speaker 1: I still don't know what those are, but he wants

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Speaker 1: to ban it magazine clips.

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Speaker 2: Two is these throwing both terms in there, which is

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Speaker 2: really something else?

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Speaker 1: All right, let me play another clip from.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, because the hitch just keep on coming and

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Speaker 2: I want to get your response to this one.

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Speaker 1: Play the next one.

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Speaker 7: Guys outgunning the police, and I've experienced that directly with

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Speaker 7: the loss of a police officer who was gunned down

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Speaker 7: by an AK forty seven and the police were outgunning

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Speaker 7: baby Owner's point in San Francisco. But otherwise, man, people

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Speaker 7: are the right to bare arms, and I got no

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Speaker 7: ideological opposition to that at all.

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Speaker 2: So again, an AK forty seven outgunning the police.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 2: Many police cruisers carry at AK or at equivalent AR fifteen.

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Speaker 2: But you notice what he said there, Awr. He was

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Speaker 2: gunned down by an AK forty seven. Last I checked,

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Speaker 2: it's the person behind the gun that is gunning anybody

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Speaker 2: down who uses it.

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Speaker 1: AWR, No, it's it.

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Speaker 8: That's typical lift to speak though, You've got to demonize

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Speaker 8: the whip and that's what they've spent. Now what did

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Speaker 8: they spent Grant thirty years demonizing the AR fifteen and

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Speaker 8: of course the AK forty seven. So he has to

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Speaker 8: opposite of what he's saying. He is ideologically opposed to

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Speaker 8: the Second Amendment. You can't be pro Second Amendment and

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Speaker 8: then say but it has to be this way, you

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Speaker 8: this age, you have to go through this background check,

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Speaker 8: blah blah blah. I've said a million times and I've

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Speaker 8: written on it. You know, California has more gun control

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty one, in twenty twenty three, they led the

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Speaker 8: nation in active shooter incidents. So it's not only insulting

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Speaker 8: but it's double insulting because his gun control is a failure.

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Speaker 1: You know, you and I have talked about this.

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Speaker 2: The Second Amendment is the only constitutional right that you

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Speaker 2: have to often pay to exercise.

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Speaker 1: You got to get your gun license.

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine reporters had to get a First Amendment license?

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Speaker 2: Or if you were a homeowner and you didn't pay

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Speaker 2: that fee, so the police could.

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Speaker 1: Just come on into your house. Nowhere else do we

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Speaker 1: see this?

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Speaker 2: And then Gavin Newsom as the audassy to talk about it,

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Speaker 2: he uses the phrase anymore. I think you were the

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Speaker 2: first guy to tip me off on this. They don't

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Speaker 2: say gun control anymore. They say gun safety. Everybody wants

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Speaker 2: gun safety, but they mean gun control, don't they.

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Speaker 8: That's it, Yeah, that's just They went through that change

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Speaker 8: when they were trying to get background checks in Washington

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Speaker 8: State and when was that twenty fourteen? And that's when

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Speaker 8: I started noticing they've moved from gun control. Shannon Watts,

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Speaker 8: Watts was the one doing it predominantly, and she was

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Speaker 8: shifting from gun control to gun safety. I'm a gun

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Speaker 8: safety advocate and what that means is they want to

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Speaker 8: to it. That's what it is, and Gavin Newsom, you

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Speaker 8: know it, Grant, I'm not telling you anything. He's just

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Speaker 1: Right now, let me ask you one last question.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if you know Sean Ryan that

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Speaker 2: well or why listen to his podcast. He does something

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Speaker 2: are really interesting when he brings the veterans in and

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Speaker 1: I'm always fasceted. But lately he's been going down this

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Speaker 1: very weird road.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why a guy like this would

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Speaker 2: everything I saw, he didn't really confront him on many

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I have the same feelings you do. I was uncomfortable

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Speaker 8: that bs about being pro Second Amendment.

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Speaker 1: He's not pro Second Amendment.

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Speaker 8: And you've got to call him on the You got

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Speaker 8: to call him on the carpet when he says he is,

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Speaker 8: and so I have the same concerns you do. I

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Speaker 8: I haven't had that much exposure to him. I know

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Speaker 8: who he is, but this particular podcast bothered me. My friend.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like you.

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Speaker 8: I have about the same opinions.

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Speaker 2: Well, everybody out there that knows AWR and I we

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Speaker 1: So it's one of the reasons why I have you

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Speaker 1: on all the time.

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Speaker 2: I respect your opinion, AWR Hawkins, and great work over

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Speaker 2: there at Breitbart. Keep up the good work, and we

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Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on, my friend. All right, as we

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Speaker 1: talk about Jeffrey Epstein next.

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Speaker 2: My co host out on AMA seventy in Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: had the most simple explanation for what's going on. It

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Speaker 2: was so simple. It may be plausible, but it might

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Speaker 2: not make you happy. We'll talk about that next. All right, folks,

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Speaker 2: here's the latest update on Jeffrey Epstein. President Trump now

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Speaker 2: says the Democrats had doctored the Jeffrey Epstein files. Well,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't put that past them for sure. So with that,

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Speaker 2: he recommended this for Pam Bondi today in terms.

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Speaker 9: Of the credibility of the different things that they've seen.

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Speaker 9: And I would say that, you know, these files were

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Speaker 9: made up by Komi, they were made up by Obama,

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Speaker 9: they were made up by but the biting from you know,

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Speaker 9: uh we and we went through years of that with

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Speaker 9: the Russia Russia Russia hoax, with all of the different things.

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Speaker 1: That we had to go through. We've gone through years

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 9: But she's handled it very well, and it's going to

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Speaker 9: be up to her. Whatever she thinks is credible, she

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Speaker 9: should release you, all right.

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Speaker 2: So that's somewhat new to President Trump from the last

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Speaker 2: comment we're still talking about Emstein.

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Speaker 1: He says, hey, let's release what's credible. I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 2: And in many respects that's thanks to all of you

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Speaker 2: programs like this that are putting the pressure on. Don't

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Speaker 2: let us down, mister President. I don't think he's going

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Speaker 2: to now. I told you I believe this is a

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Speaker 2: Middle East deal that there may be Saudi's on this list,

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Speaker 2: very important Saudis people in Israel that could throw the

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Speaker 2: peace process up up into a fray where doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to go. This was Mike Ben's on Stinchfield last week,

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Speaker 2: talk about where Jeffrey Epstein may have made some of

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Speaker 2: his money.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were always told he made.

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Speaker 2: All his money through blackmail, but maybe that wasn't necessarily true.

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Speaker 10: Listen, money fixer and money launder for odd Non Koshogi,

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Speaker 10: the CIA's main illicit arms trafficker during the Iran Contra

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Speaker 10: affair and dating back thirty years, odd Nan Koshogi was

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Speaker 10: the largest arms dealer in the world. He was the

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Speaker 10: CIA and DoD's main guy for transporting and brokering weapons deals,

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Speaker 10: especially ones where the money trail couldn't be tracked. And

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Speaker 10: Jeffrey Epstein was the guy who made the money untrackable.

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Speaker 1: So we were.

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Speaker 2: Always told there was no other way Jeffrey Epstein made

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Speaker 2: money but his blackmail and sex trafficking operations. But Mike

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Speaker 2: Ben says, Jeffrey Epstein was integral and ad non Koshogi,

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Speaker 2: who was a Saudi running guns during Iran conference scandal

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Speaker 2: and beyond at one point worth four billion dollars. Maybe

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Speaker 2: Epstein got his money there. So what if there's there's

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Speaker 2: Well I was going to say more to the Epstein story,

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Speaker 2: but what if there's actually less to the Epstein story.

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Speaker 2: This was an idea my co host out on the

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Speaker 2: Morning Answer in Los Angeles on AM eight seventy rays

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Speaker 2: this morning, and I thought, you know what, come on

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Speaker 2: and lay this out for us, And that's what we

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Speaker 2: did today.

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Speaker 1: Has brought Jennifer Horn back.

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Speaker 2: Jen why don't you just lay it out for me?

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Speaker 2: What are you thinking there could be a possibility here.

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Speaker 11: I preface this by saying nobody knows anything because anybody

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Speaker 11: who has said that they've known something has not been

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Speaker 11: able to show us anything. So thanks for having me tonight, Grant.

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Speaker 11: And it just sort of hit me. As we've been

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Speaker 11: talking about this, we've all been so disappointed members of

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Speaker 11: the MAGA community, been disappointed that there hasn't been the

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Speaker 11: transparency that we thought, and it just made me think,

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Speaker 11: what if there's less than we've thought. Think about Jeffrey Epstein. First,

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Speaker 11: I want to be very clear. I think guy is

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Speaker 11: really a scum guy. He's a bad guy. He's somebody

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Speaker 11: who wanted to pray on young women. I think that's

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Speaker 11: very clear. But what if it didn't go so deep.

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Speaker 11: What if people have been making themselves famous and making

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Speaker 11: themselves rich really spinning up this story. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 11: I love true crime documentaries. I have watched a ton

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Speaker 11: of documentaries on Jeffrey Epstein. And literally there are only

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Speaker 11: seven women that we have ever seen named with the

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Speaker 11: Jeffrey Epstein story. Now there are others who are mentioned

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Speaker 11: in court documents whose names are redacted. We also know

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Speaker 11: zero people who have been confirmed as being on a

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Speaker 11: blackmail list of Jeffrey Epstein. The most prominent, of course,

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Speaker 11: Bill Clinton, Donald Trump. Of course, people like to throw

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Speaker 11: that one around politically, which I don't believe at all,

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Speaker 11: and others that were mentioned, but we don't really have

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Speaker 11: any real proof. Even people in the documentary who are

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Speaker 11: eyewitnesses to this stuff said, yes, were young women around,

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Speaker 11: but they really couldn't give us any proof.

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Speaker 1: So it just it came to me that there are.

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Speaker 11: A lot of people who have made careers, influencers, who

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Speaker 11: have made themselves famous by covering this, by promising us

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Speaker 11: that there's something more. Maybe there just isn't grant. I mean,

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Speaker 11: it's a possibility. Nobody knows.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, you raise a good point, because what I

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Speaker 2: have heard over the years is that there were thousands

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Speaker 2: of victims. At one point, we were told thousands that

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Speaker 2: he was sex trafficking girls left and right. Then you

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Speaker 2: said it, why don't we have more than just seven

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Speaker 2: that have come forward. You know, there's Prince Andrew as well,

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Speaker 2: and there's something going on there, but him and Bill

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Speaker 2: Clinton are really the only two that have been named,

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Speaker 2: And why don't we have more of the people?

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Speaker 1: That's it?

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Speaker 11: And by the way, if Jeffrey Epstein is dead and

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Speaker 11: we have President Trump saying let's move on and we

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Speaker 11: have Glaine Maxwell and Jail. Then I know we hear

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Speaker 11: from the people who either thought they might have been

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Speaker 11: on the list or it was a rumor that they

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Speaker 11: were in the circle of Jeffrey Epstein, or even more

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Speaker 11: from the women who could have been caught up in

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Speaker 11: all of this. It just seems strange to me. And

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Speaker 11: one thing I know by being in this business, Grant

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Speaker 11: and you two and I have to give you props.

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Speaker 11: You and I both look for the truth, sometimes at

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Speaker 11: the detriment to our own followings.

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Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people who love to.

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Speaker 11: Spend salacious stories to get famous and to make a

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Speaker 11: name for themselves. And then when the rubber meets the road,

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Speaker 11: maybe there's not as much there as we thought. So

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Speaker 11: one of I mean, anything is up in the air,

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Speaker 11: anything is up for grabs. But maybe it is as

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Speaker 11: President Trump said, maybe there isn't as much.

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Speaker 1: As we think.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that lends credibility to this theory

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Speaker 2: is that Dan Bongino and Cash Betel are two men

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Speaker 2: that I trust, and I don't think they would lie

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Speaker 2: to us. And if you are under the assumption that

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Speaker 2: Dan and Cash are not going to lie to us,

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Speaker 2: that they get in there and then they're not seeing.

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Speaker 1: What they're supposed to see.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're not seeing it because the evidence has been destroyed,

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Speaker 2: as my buddy Roger Stone, and I also think is

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Speaker 2: a real possibility in all of this. As you know,

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Speaker 2: I believe in the Middle East connections all this, but

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Speaker 2: your theory holds holds water here that you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: he made it someplace else. Everybody from prosecutors to influencers, including.

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Speaker 1: Dan Bonji, he talked about this.

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Speaker 2: All the time and it reminds me a lot jen

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Speaker 2: of Adam Schiff and Russian collusion. Adam Schiff knows he

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Speaker 2: was lying about what was in the Russian collusion file

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Speaker 2: because he never saw anything that he talked about, but

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Speaker 2: he was probably told and heard and the stories were flying,

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Speaker 2: and everybody just thinks it's safe to say it's there,

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Speaker 2: trusting the other guy, when in the end, nobody's seen

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Speaker 2: a damn thing, And oh he ended up doing was

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Speaker 2: lying to the American public.

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Speaker 11: And I think that's possible with Pam Bondi too, saying

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Speaker 11: I've got everything on my desk, Well, maybe everything wasn't

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Speaker 11: what we think everything has been. And I also think

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Speaker 11: that's a source of frustration. Look, I love Dan Bongino,

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Speaker 11: you know that. I have such great respect for him

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Speaker 11: and Cash Ftel particularly, and I don't want to believe

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Speaker 11: that there would be any kind of lies that they

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Speaker 11: would tell out of the FBI.

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Speaker 1: That's the reason we support them.

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Speaker 11: They're great communicators and they also are looking for truth

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Speaker 11: and transparency. But maybe that's why Dan Bongino is frustrated.

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Speaker 11: I mean, for years he's been part of this. People

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Speaker 11: have probably told him things that they had seen firsthand,

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Speaker 11: and maybe that stuff just wasn't there. I mean, there's

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Speaker 11: obviously the reports of frustration on his part. Maybe that's

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Speaker 11: a piece of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, look again, you summed it up in the beginning.

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Speaker 2: All of this is really speculation. We're not getting any

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Speaker 2: answers from our government right now, so we're speculating. It's

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Speaker 2: one possible theory of many possible theories.

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Speaker 1: But we'll throw them out there and let the people decide.

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Speaker 1: So now we're going to release these flies.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that idea because I don't really trust

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Speaker 2: our government. I don't mind shutting down livestock, but I

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Speaker 2: wonder what more is at play here. I want to

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Speaker 2: bring in now to discuss all of this. The president

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Speaker 2: of the United States Cattleman's Association, Justin Tupper, is with us.

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Speaker 1: Justin as a pleasure to have you on the program.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it all right, what do you make of one

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Speaker 2: shutting down trade with Mexico. That's got to probably help

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Speaker 2: US cattle ranchers, especially independents not having competition from the South.

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Speaker 1: But what do you make of this and the screwworm?

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Speaker 12: Well, I think first and foremost, you know, well, a

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Speaker 12: lot of my peers back in the sixties when the

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Speaker 12: screw worm was a problem and I was not around then,

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Speaker 12: I believe it was a huge, huge thing and impacted

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Speaker 12: their lives deeply and the cattle industry. So I think

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Speaker 12: anything we can do to try to keep that new

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Speaker 12: world screw worm from getting here to the United States

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Speaker 12: and infecting a cattle herd that is already at its

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Speaker 12: lowest levels since the nineteen seventies is a good thing.

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Speaker 12: But we were getting some mixed signals from the government.

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Speaker 12: They shut the border down, then they decided to open it,

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Speaker 12: and they were going to do it in a staggered fashion,

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Speaker 12: And then again just the other day they decided to

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Speaker 12: close it because I think the transparency from Mexico may

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Speaker 12: not be everything we need.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you make of the idea of breeding

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Speaker 2: flies to combat all of this?

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Speaker 12: I've been doing quite a little talking and research on this.

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Speaker 12: That is one of the ways they eradicated it in

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Speaker 12: the sixties is with sterile flies and making sure that

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Speaker 12: they can't reproduce. I'm not an epidemiologist, I'm not sure

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Speaker 12: on exactly how all that works, but it was some

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Speaker 12: technology that was still used to clear back in the sixties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the thought is for everybody at home, is that

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Speaker 2: the sterile flies well, then attempt to breed with the

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Speaker 2: flies that are infected. Obviously they're sterile, so that doesn't happen,

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Speaker 2: and in the end.

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Speaker 1: You reduce the population.

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Speaker 2: You know, as my friend doctor Peter McCullough, who's a

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Speaker 2: great freethinking doctor, said, is it better to increase more

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Speaker 2: flies into the environment or would you rather try.

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Speaker 1: To reduce the flies some way? Would you know?

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously going out and insecticides of those kinds

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Speaker 2: of things. Nobody likes to talk about that, but would

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Speaker 2: reducing the fly population be a better way of going

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Speaker 2: about this?

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Speaker 1: And that's a great question.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 12: I would hope that we have some new sciences since

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Speaker 12: the sixties, the last time that we had to fight

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Speaker 12: this new World's crew worm, and are able to combat

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Speaker 12: it that way. But right now, from the people that

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Speaker 12: we talk to, these sterile flies seem to be their

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Speaker 12: best notion from the federal government how to combat this

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Speaker 12: from getting to the United States or at least containing

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Speaker 12: it to the best they can once agains here.

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Speaker 2: All right now, I hate bringing up the idea of

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Speaker 2: conspiracy theories, but my government over the last few years

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Speaker 2: has really taught me that most of my conspiracy theories

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Speaker 2: come true. So I'm left wondering, how in the world

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Speaker 2: are these screw worms that were once eradicate it start

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Speaker 2: popping up down south and moving towards the United States.

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Speaker 1: And then I think of China.

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Speaker 2: We don't import a lot of meat from China, but

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Speaker 2: would China have an incentive to introduce something like this.

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Speaker 2: We know they own farmland in the United States to

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Speaker 2: ultimately say, hey, you know what, now that we can't

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Speaker 2: take beef in and cattle from South America, in Central

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Speaker 2: America and Mexico, maybe we got to turn to China.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe they're trying to make us so we don't

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Speaker 2: have a lot of beef. How concerned are you about

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Speaker 2: China and the ranching industry and agriculture in general.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think very You know, at US Cattleman's we

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Speaker 12: believe food security is national security, and I think if

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Speaker 12: they can infiltrate to our systems and our food within

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Speaker 12: this country that if we can't understand that that's national security,

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Speaker 12: then we got a big problem. And I do think

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Speaker 12: that we have to look at these things and measure

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Speaker 12: them the best we can. I'm with you, I don't

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Speaker 12: know that because it's in Mexico and trying to eradicate

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Speaker 12: it before it gets here. We know that the federal

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Speaker 12: government is not to be trusted for sure in Mexico,

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Speaker 12: so I think there's a lot of problems with that.

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Speaker 12: We do know we have the lowest numbers of cows

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Speaker 12: in our country since the seventies, so we have a

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Speaker 12: cow herd that's already limited, and if we get hit

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Speaker 12: with this strue worm, that could be big, big time

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Speaker 12: for the industry. That we will see epidemic levels again

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Speaker 12: like we did during COVID when some of the shelves

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Speaker 12: aren't full.

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Speaker 1: Justin real quick, why are the cattle numbers down?

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Speaker 12: You know, there's a lot of mitigating factors. One, the

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Speaker 12: economy of it was not good for a lot of years.

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Speaker 12: It was not very affordable, didn't make a lot of money.

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Speaker 12: We had a lot of droughts across the country. It

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Speaker 12: was kind of a perfect storm. Is why we're down

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Speaker 12: on cattle numbers. But we're going to have to try

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Speaker 12: to rebuild. We do see prices increasing, so I think

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Speaker 12: we'll see the herd start to rebuild in the near future.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's fascinating stuff.

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Speaker 2: Keep us posting on this because this could be end

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Speaker 2: up being a real problem. And I will tell everybody

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Speaker 2: out there first and foremost, I'm a beef eater, so

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Speaker 2: I'll love what you guys do with us cattle means.

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Speaker 2: And I'm told there's a few organizations out there, but

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Speaker 2: you are part of the good guys. I literally had

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Speaker 2: people I trust that says you want to talk about cattle,

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Speaker 2: go to US cattle and justin Tupper, no surprise, you

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Speaker 2: did great tonight. Thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 12: Hey, thanks for having us in the safest, best protein

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Speaker 12: on the planet, beef.

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Speaker 1: Amen to that.

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Speaker 2: And look, I love I love my red meat and

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Speaker 2: I love my beef, and so that ain't stopping.

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Speaker 1: So keep the screwworm away, Okay. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: about doing it with these flies. I'm telling you something

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Speaker 1: doesn't had up with this. I don't like it, all right.

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Speaker 1: That is next. We'll be back everyone. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit.

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Speaker 2: About the inflation numbers that the left and even some

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Speaker 2: Rhino Republicans are streaming the sky is falling. So we

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Speaker 2: went from two point four percent to two point seven

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Speaker 2: percent rate of inflation to two point seven percent being

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Speaker 2: year over year inflation. Now, this says far lower than

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Speaker 2: what it was under Joe Biden. But here's what the

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Speaker 2: mainstream media misses. You see that year over year wage growth,

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Speaker 2: wage growth is at three point seven percent, inflation at

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Speaker 2: two point seven percent, which means the country as a whole,

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Speaker 2: people in it are making one percent more than the

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Speaker 2: cost of things arising.

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Speaker 1: That's good news, Okay.

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Speaker 2: For all of this, and two point four percent to

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Speaker 2: two point seven percent month to month, they want to

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Speaker 2: cry and scream about tariffs. I just don't see it.

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Speaker 2: This is Treasury Secretary Scott Besson.

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Speaker 13: But I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number.

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Speaker 13: I think it's the trend. And I think one thing

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Speaker 13: that Wall Street, a lot of economist market in general

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Speaker 13: got wrong early on was that tariffs were going to

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Speaker 13: cause a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened.

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Speaker 1: And you know it hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 2: I thought we would see it quicker if it was

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Speaker 2: going to happen, and it.

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Speaker 1: Turns out it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Something we told you the most likely scenario was you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't see a sharp rise.

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Speaker 1: Now, it may continue to go up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But if wa just continue to go up the way

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Speaker 2: they are under President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Then we have no problems.

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Speaker 2: And we are far lower at a rate of inflation

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Speaker 2: than we ever were under Joe Biden. President Trump getting

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Speaker 2: this back down thanks in large part to oil prices

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Speaker 2: coming down. This is President Trump talking about the inflation numbers.

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Speaker 1: I know there was very little inflation.

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Speaker 9: As you know, the numbers were very good, very much

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Speaker 9: inside the margin. So we've had no inflation. All we

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Speaker 9: have is we're making a fortune. We are taking in

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Speaker 9: hundreds of billions of dollars. You So we had a

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Speaker 9: surplus of twenty five billion dollars last month, which we

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Speaker 9: haven't had in many, many years.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, we had a surplus.

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Speaker 2: We haven't had that as long as I've been an adult,

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Speaker 2: I don't think. So this is is what we get

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Speaker 2: with President Trump. We've got money coming in now. He

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Speaker 2: just announced a new deal with Indonesia today, and so

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Speaker 2: again we're getting our economy back on track, but that

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Speaker 2: doesn't stop the leftists from spewing their laws.

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Speaker 1: Do not believe them.

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Speaker 2: Here's on CNN Yahoo finance columnist.

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Speaker 14: What's most worrying about this is this is exactly the

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Speaker 14: sort of effect economists have been watching for from the

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Speaker 14: terroriffts that Trump has put on on nearly three trillion

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Speaker 14: dollars worth of imports, and more than that, we saw

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Speaker 14: unusual increases in a few product categories such as sporting

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Speaker 14: goods and toys and appliances that are dominated by imports.

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Speaker 14: So that tells you that the tax on imports that

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Speaker 14: Trump has put on all these products is starting to

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Speaker 14: filter through to the economy.

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Speaker 2: No, what it tells me is that even if the

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Speaker 2: tariffs do filter down to some items, it's not items

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Speaker 2: that are life or death for the American people. Toys,

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Speaker 2: sporting goods, Okay, come on, we're nazi. Are the things

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Speaker 2: are critical for people's lives? And so to me, this

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Speaker 2: again is good news. I'm with the President that this

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Speaker 2: is all well within the margin, and do not freak

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Speaker 2: out over inflation numbers ticking up when they were at

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Speaker 2: eight nine ten percent under Joe Biden and we're now

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Speaker 2: back to as I said two point seven percent. All right, folks,

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Speaker 2: coming up next, let's have some fun with well that

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Speaker 2: little bundle of joy next. All right, we call this

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Speaker 2: segment left wing ding Dongs Exposed Roland and so my

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Speaker 2: maga darlings.

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Speaker 15: Well, you guys are busy bragging about drinking liberal tiers

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Speaker 15: and laughing at my booger ring, I will be busy

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Speaker 15: calling you guys the American Fascist Party, along with all

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Speaker 15: the other countries that are on the right page.

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Speaker 1: Good day.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, the Fascist Party. I'm so offended by that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I got to think of it. They always use this

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Speaker 2: term fascist. I don't even think they know what it

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Speaker 2: means to me. Fascism is a centralized government with a

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Speaker 2: strong dictorial style leader. Okay, that's Obama, all right? That

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Speaker 2: was the fascist of that we saw in this country.

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Speaker 2: We want limited government. President Trump wants limited government. He

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Speaker 2: hasn't want government in the way dictating your every move.

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Speaker 2: Didn't that happen under Joe Biden as well? Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: wasn't a very big personality, though he was a personality,

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Speaker 2: just not a big personality. I think they're the fascist

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Speaker 2: not us. It's gonna do it for us Stinchfield's army rolls.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to all of you, We'll see tomorrow