Speaker 1: Welcome to Games Lanes. I'm Julian Edelman, and we got
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Speaker 2: Josh bray Daniels gives his thoughts on Drake May before
Speaker 2: he returned.
Speaker 3: To the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Have you watched a little bit of May Drake May
Speaker 1: I have? What do you think I have him?
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't get to see a ton of
Speaker 3: them in the spring. But he's obviously got great size,
Speaker 3: really athletic. I don't know where he'll fit in the whole,
Speaker 3: like you know, the style he'll play with. I'm interested
Speaker 3: to see how that develops, Like is he going to
Speaker 3: be a run a little bit of a runner like
Speaker 3: Josh Allen was in Buffalo. I don't think he's quite
Speaker 3: as big as Josh is, but like you know, guys
Speaker 3: like that that have those kind of attributes, you can
Speaker 3: use him to run the football too, you know. And
Speaker 3: so I don't think we've seen all that yet in
Speaker 3: the preseason, but I'm interested to see when he plays
Speaker 3: if he becomes a little bit more of a dual
Speaker 3: threat guy or if he's just a pocket passer and
Speaker 3: a big, tall, strong guy in the pocket. But the
Speaker 3: games I've seen he's you know, he's done a good job.
Speaker 1: And you know last night, you know, he played and
Speaker 1: he had that third and fourteen on that first drive,
Speaker 1: backed up and he got that with his legs, yep,
Speaker 1: which you know was cover five. Look, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: man or something, and he you know, that was pretty
Speaker 1: cool to see.
Speaker 3: Yep. Uh, he's stepping up in the pocket, which is
Speaker 3: for a young guys, you know, like that's not always
Speaker 3: the easiest thing to get him to do. And I
Speaker 3: saw him multiple times last night.
Speaker 1: Move forward the crunch yea and that crunch stock. You
Speaker 1: know he stepped up, he didn't. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of times where a young quarterback can't keep his
Speaker 1: eyes down field while he steps up. He takes off
Speaker 1: in one of those lanes.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: He delivered that football to Polk. It looked good. You know,
Speaker 1: he still needs to work his feet. He had too
Speaker 1: many throws where you know, he's like this and he's
Speaker 1: trying to do that. Yeah, you know, and he'll learn that,
Speaker 1: hopefully he does. But that was his mo His his feet aren't.
Speaker 3: And I don't think he played from under center much. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you can tell, you know that when when there's
Speaker 3: exchange issues, you know. Usually that's just time on task,
Speaker 3: you know, And I doubt he didn't do that much
Speaker 3: in college from what I gather, So I think those
Speaker 3: are the kind of things that'll take some time for
Speaker 3: him to just acclimate, because you can't be you can't
Speaker 3: be thinking about how to get the ball from the center. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when you're dealing with backup center defenses and like what's
Speaker 3: where's the blitz coming from, and what's my read and
Speaker 3: what coverage are they playing? You got it? You can't
Speaker 3: be thinking about how to get the ball.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. I mean Foxborough High, right, that's right,
Speaker 1: Foxborough High right there, that's exactly. One thing also pissed
Speaker 1: me off is the cleat thing he's wearing, those slipper cleats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the dude, you're too you're two thirty, you're sixty four.
Speaker 1: You can't be wearing dB one hundred and ninety five
Speaker 1: pound cleats.
Speaker 3: The foot where the guard get him and it just
Speaker 3: slipped off.
Speaker 1: Slipped off.
Speaker 3: I didn't like that.
Speaker 1: That made me mad. You got to protect those things,
Speaker 1: especially your quarterback. You learn how to play with the
Speaker 1: heavy cleat.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: They always say you can't. You might as well start
Speaker 1: with Jakobe first, because you can never pull the kid
Speaker 1: once you put them in. Yeah, you know, and so
Speaker 1: that's going to be an interesting decision what they have
Speaker 1: going into week one, you know. And you know Girad
Speaker 1: he's a level headed guy. He's very smart guy. Yep,
Speaker 1: and you listed all the characteristics he had. I mean,
Speaker 1: captain this that he checks all the boxes. I'm excited
Speaker 1: for his opportunity.
Speaker 2: Next up, Josh McDaniels on developing Tom Brady with the
Speaker 2: Patriots developing young quarterbacks. Can you can you talk about that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: What's the process?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: You were a huge part of help developing Tom Brady, right,
Speaker 1: that's when you first came in two thousand and two
Speaker 1: thousand and one. Ye, you developed him and the other guys.
Speaker 1: But what it developing a quarterback? What's that process like now?
Speaker 1: And who also makes that decision? Is the head coach,
Speaker 1: is the offensive coordinator? Is it, you know, the quarterback coach?
Speaker 1: Or is it everyone's doing it their own.
Speaker 3: I think I think you have to have a plan,
Speaker 3: you know, and that obviously starts from the head coach
Speaker 3: his perspective, and you have to you know, be able
Speaker 3: to agree on how you're going to kind of unveil
Speaker 3: that thing to the to the player and you know,
Speaker 3: and ultimately bring him along. You know, you were a
Speaker 3: young player that needed to make progress every step of
Speaker 3: the way. Yeah, and this is no different. It's just
Speaker 3: there's so much notoriety and so much attention on the
Speaker 3: quarterback position. So if they're not talking about your arm angle,
Speaker 3: they're talking about your footwork. If they're not talking about that,
Speaker 3: they're talking about your eyes or your read or how
Speaker 3: you navigated the pocket. And there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that go into playing it well. But at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, I think you got to take the
Speaker 3: player where he's at, you know, when he comes in,
Speaker 3: whether that was Castle or Garoppolo or Stidham or Brissett
Speaker 3: or mac aidan O'Connell, like, you got to take the
Speaker 3: player where he's at. They're all at different spots, they
Speaker 3: all have been taught different things. They've all you know,
Speaker 3: digested different amounts of information. Some have played in different
Speaker 3: systems than yours. Some have played in maybe some that
Speaker 3: were a little bit more like yours, And you just
Speaker 3: got to figure out, all right, what do they know
Speaker 3: and what am I going to try to you know,
Speaker 3: push forward to get him to progress the quickest. You know,
Speaker 3: I think I can get this and this done in
Speaker 3: OTA's okay, great cadence play calls footwork all right, good
Speaker 3: and in training camp. You know, now I got to
Speaker 3: get him to see different coverages and understand defenses a
Speaker 3: little bit more, you know, protections, you know, and then
Speaker 3: you know, move forward, you know, ball security, and then
Speaker 3: the red zone is a different animal, and third down
Speaker 3: and two minute offense. So there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that go into it. But I think it's just having
Speaker 3: a really good feel for where's the player at. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, can't just keep throwing stuff at him. Always
Speaker 3: talk about it. They have a bucket. You guys all
Speaker 3: had a bucket, and yours was a big bucket at
Speaker 3: the end, like you could handle whatever we gave you. Well,
Speaker 3: when you take a young quarterback, it's more like a cup.
Speaker 3: You know. You got to put some some stuff in
Speaker 3: his cup, and when it gets to the top, you
Speaker 3: got to stop, you know what I mean, and then
Speaker 3: make sure that he you know, got has this and
Speaker 3: he can do it well. And then okay, so then
Speaker 3: when he's ready for more than you get him a
Speaker 3: bigger cup and then hopefully he ends up with a
Speaker 3: bucket and you've got a bunch of stuff in there
Speaker 3: that you can do well. But there's no shortcut. There's
Speaker 3: no shortcut to it. And I think knowing where the
Speaker 3: players at is really important. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, some you know, a lot of people have been
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the systems in the NFL. You
Speaker 1: got the West Coast system, then you have like our system,
Speaker 1: the Charlie Weiss Patriot system, and they say that the
Speaker 1: West Coast system is pretty much it protects the quarterback,
Speaker 1: the offensive linement, help with the protections everyone, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone with the quarterback, you go where the ball is
Speaker 1: supposed to go. It's step system for the receivers. Is
Speaker 1: it harder to develop a quarterback in our system, because
Speaker 1: that's what people are trying to say, than it is
Speaker 1: in the West Coast system.
Speaker 3: I think it depends on the way you look at that.
Speaker 3: If the goal is just to restrict the volume of
Speaker 3: responsibility that you place on him right away, then it
Speaker 3: certainly could be. If at the end of the day
Speaker 3: your goal is to have him understand how to handle
Speaker 3: all the problems and take care of those things that
Speaker 3: come up in the big games in order for him
Speaker 3: to help you win them, then maybe it's worth it.
Speaker 3: You know, that was always our mindset. Is basically what
Speaker 3: we're talking about here is who's going to do the
Speaker 3: stuff prior to the ball being snapped. All the quarterbacks
Speaker 3: have to do the same thing. Once the ball is
Speaker 3: in their hand. They got to understand what happened relative
Speaker 3: to the protection or the pressures. They have to read
Speaker 3: the coverage. They have to identify a guy that they
Speaker 3: think is open and make accurate throws and protect the
Speaker 3: ball like everybody does the same thing once the ball snapped. Really,
Speaker 3: what we're talking about is pre snap responsible.
Speaker 1: Pre stap responsibility.
Speaker 3: That's it. And so I always looked at it like
Speaker 3: a mountain, like at the beginning, we're at the bottom,
Speaker 3: we're trying to climb it. And at the beginning, when
Speaker 3: you start talking to them about making the calls and
Speaker 3: setting the protections and dealing with the run game and
Speaker 3: all those things that we you know, we taught our
Speaker 3: players how to do. You know, it's it's harder because
Speaker 3: it's foreign. It's not that they don't understand it, it's
Speaker 3: just different. And so at the beginning they're at the
Speaker 3: bottom of the mountain. You look up and you're like, God, damn,
Speaker 3: that's a tall mountain, you know. But always felt like,
Speaker 3: as we went through the first year, all right, you're
Speaker 3: getting up the mountain. You know it, I know it,
Speaker 3: we all know it. And then once you get to
Speaker 3: the top of the mountain, now there's nothing left to
Speaker 3: climb because you understand it. You understand how to manipulate
Speaker 3: the protection, how to solve your issues in prep with
Speaker 3: blood zero and those kind of things, and and and
Speaker 3: just be able to to to do it at a
Speaker 3: high level, you know, because I always thought like, Okay, Tom,
Speaker 3: everybody knows Tom's won a lot. Well Tom did it
Speaker 3: that way. Peyton did a lot too, you know, Peyton
Speaker 3: won a lot, he did it that way. You know.
Speaker 3: I know that Pat's some you know, in some way,
Speaker 3: shape or form able to handle some of those things
Speaker 3: as well. I just think having the quarterback never be
Speaker 3: responsible for any of that stuff. You know, there's some
Speaker 3: downside to it. You know. Other people might argue that
Speaker 3: that's not the case, but I would say that, you know,
Speaker 3: there's there's pros and cons to both. You know. I
Speaker 3: love the I love the idea of having the quarterback
Speaker 3: able to understand it all. Yeah, I really do.
Speaker 1: I mean I did too. That's the quarterback. That's why
Speaker 1: he's paid all goddamn money, you know, fuck sixty five
Speaker 1: million dollars Nowaday, Now going back to you know the
Speaker 1: buckets and the cups. Yeah, when you were developing Team
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow, did you know that in that cup, we're
Speaker 1: like fifteen hundred circumcisions?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Was that part of that? Was that part of Like?
Speaker 1: Was that in the scout no comment? I mean, did
Speaker 1: we know that he was circumcising comments?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 3: Games with names, Games with names?
Speaker 4: One of my favorite on this podcast, The question was
Speaker 4: how big with Tim Tebow's cup? Was we wanted that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a holy water grail.
Speaker 2: Now the story of Julian disobeying Josh McDaniels and throwing
Speaker 2: the touchdown pass.
Speaker 1: After we scored that touchdown. I remember that's that's when
Speaker 1: you came up to me.
Speaker 3: I did. I said, do you need any lead time
Speaker 3: for the double pass? And you and you said what?
Speaker 3: And I said, do I have to tell you that
Speaker 3: it's coming? Meaning like you need to take your red
Speaker 3: gloves off or whatever? You know, your cutters or whatever.
Speaker 3: They are, like, what do you do? Do I need
Speaker 3: to tell you that this is coming like five minutes
Speaker 3: in advance. You're like, no, no, no, yeah, that's what
Speaker 3: you said. Just throw it, just call it whenever you want.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, you know, so we so we did. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was the the first touchdown was the one we
Speaker 3: actually did the Raven Baltimore formation the first time. First
Speaker 3: time we were down by fourteen, and then when we
Speaker 3: scored one, that's when we went with the double pass.
Speaker 1: A double pass speaking of pass, which we had actually.
Speaker 3: Called earlier in the season against the Chiefs. Against the Chiefs,
Speaker 3: just didn't we just didn't throw it over there.
Speaker 1: We called it, and you know it was Dola.
Speaker 3: Gonna throw it. Wasn't It was it you or Dola.
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I watched this morning. It was gonna
Speaker 3: be you. But Dola was like saying he was playing
Speaker 3: to man coverage, like we couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: Was trying to call you off when you were in motion.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can we go into the second time I threw the football.
Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen in Philly, Philly, Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 3: It was a great story. Juice's story Jesus told his
Speaker 3: side to hear your side.
Speaker 1: I don't know if my memories really fucked up.
Speaker 3: The night before the game. This is the story. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we well this wasn't the same play. No, it's
Speaker 3: a different play. Throw it here, throw it back and
Speaker 3: set up the catch and run. And in the we
Speaker 3: we always did like a little ballroom, which always felt
Speaker 3: like you guys loved that. I loved it. To reiterate,
Speaker 3: it was almost like a very comforting feeling when you
Speaker 3: walked out of there, like we all study. We all
Speaker 3: got it. Yeah, we all got it. And it was loose.
Speaker 1: And and so. But it wasn't always loose, depending on
Speaker 1: like the games. Sometimes we go in there running hard
Speaker 1: and stuff. I no, but that was that was But
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever went in there like.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a big like it wasn't like a
Speaker 3: big like teaching session at all. It was I would
Speaker 3: I would call the play, you guys would get on
Speaker 3: you would do it and walk through it, and that
Speaker 3: was it.
Speaker 1: But if you had like a new player coming in
Speaker 1: that had a big role, that was different, you know,
Speaker 1: like if he was nervous and we were all kind
Speaker 1: of watching them too, as.
Speaker 3: Well and Julian. Julian, well, I'll tell them to tell
Speaker 3: two stories quickly. The when he came back in two thousand.
Speaker 1: Eighteen, eighteen eighteen.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the walkthrough because we played on a Thursday night,
Speaker 3: so we didn't have practice, we didn't have any practice
Speaker 3: that week because he's just walked through. Well he does.
Speaker 3: He does the hotel like walk through and he's soaked
Speaker 3: because he's like running routes in the ballroom like but
Speaker 3: nobody else. And Tom always had like a little lacrosseball
Speaker 3: and he would bounce it to you to like show you.
Speaker 3: And Julian is literally like you could see everything, like
Speaker 3: he was just drenched. And I remember the other guys
Speaker 3: were like looking at him, like what is going on
Speaker 3: with this guy. I'm like, yeah, he's a little he's
Speaker 3: obsessive compulsive. Right now, I think he needs to play
Speaker 3: a game, is what I need. He got up a
Speaker 3: wheel for you in the first possession, Hey walk through
Speaker 3: like you play? So anyway, the Philly So the Philly
Speaker 3: game was the second throw that night in the hotel
Speaker 3: the night before the game, we go walk through it,
Speaker 3: Tom dribble bounce to the ball to Julian. Julian gets
Speaker 3: the ball and then he looks, he looks and throws
Speaker 3: it to phil Bill just Bills just wandering up the field,
Speaker 3: trying to get at the defense to come this way,
Speaker 3: and Philly catches it. And I look at him and
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't you know you do that? And I
Speaker 3: think we actually did it again, just so he so
Speaker 3: he would like do it right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And then we get in the game and he gets
Speaker 3: the ball and he looks down the field and Philly's open,
Speaker 3: and then he lets it go and I'm just like
Speaker 3: and then he caught it, and I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Those are the ones that's coaches where you're just like,
Speaker 3: that's a hell of a play.
Speaker 1: Thigures. If I would have flip my hipsky was my face,
Speaker 1: I would have got you got you did get. I
Speaker 1: got drilled.
Speaker 3: He got drilled, drilled.
Speaker 1: I come run off.
Speaker 3: When I come run off, You're fucking dangerous, dude, You
Speaker 3: are dangerous. You're dangerous. But that was all I remember,
Speaker 3: because you were the only one that threw a touchdown
Speaker 3: past that game. Oh yeah, So I remember like like,
Speaker 3: and then he would come in the next day and
Speaker 3: he would put ice. He would have his shoulder wrapped
Speaker 3: in ice in the and he would sit in the front,
Speaker 3: you know by but like, yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd always come in like the last person
Speaker 1: to come in.
Speaker 3: A way, just like that coach.
Speaker 1: You got the door.
Speaker 3: Don't worry, you got that. I take care of that.
Speaker 2: The trade used to have called the ice feed in
Speaker 2: front of everyone, looking like you just threw a complete
Speaker 2: game shutout.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, literally, like it's Randy Johnson after a nine inning.
Speaker 2: Oh my, I will say that pass your dangerous Maverick
Speaker 2: moment in Philly put jewels at five of six one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty one yards in two tds as a passer.
Speaker 3: There you go. What his reading had to be exceptional.
Speaker 2: That had to be amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We had the the one in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: to Dion oh man, he was close to it. He
Speaker 1: almost made that.
Speaker 3: He almost made that catch. That was it.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have thrown it.
Speaker 3: That was nuts. What you mean was he open? You know?
Speaker 3: He got him? It was like, just buy him. The
Speaker 3: guy did a good job of peeling on it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but the rest of the defense was over there. That
Speaker 3: game was a blur.
Speaker 4: One fifty eight point three.
Speaker 3: That's perfect.
Speaker 1: That's perfect.
Speaker 3: That's perfect.
Speaker 1: Someone say, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Say. The loudest I've ever heard that stadium was when
Speaker 3: you threw the double pass and scored that. I've never
Speaker 3: heard that stadium. That stadium has been loud a number
Speaker 3: of times in our lives. That was the loudest noise
Speaker 3: that I personally had heard, like because it was almost like,
Speaker 3: you know, like we we came back once. Now we're
Speaker 3: down two touches, and so they're like, oh no, not again.
Speaker 3: Then we come back again, and and to do it
Speaker 3: that way with you hitting Dan. I mean, that was
Speaker 3: as noisy as I think. I can never remember that was.
Speaker 1: That was a fun That was a fun play, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't over so well.
Speaker 4: Before we do that, we let we have players on.
Speaker 4: We like to walk through like a specific moment, jenneral
Speaker 4: from the Big Game. We've heard Jules's perspective, We've heard
Speaker 4: Danny mcdolea's perspective of that play. I love to hear
Speaker 4: your like beat by beat perspective of that double pass play.
Speaker 3: So down seven, then they punted, got the ball back.
Speaker 3: I remember it was ready and I had already checked
Speaker 3: with Bill, you know, like we're good. He goes whenever
Speaker 3: you know, whatever you want to do it, I'm good,
Speaker 3: and you know, because I always felt like whenever you're
Speaker 3: running something, it's a little bit screwy. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: just you better check with your big boss and make
Speaker 3: sure that you're you're you're not doing it. And he
Speaker 3: doesn't want you to like fake punts, and you know,
Speaker 3: so he was he already signed off whenever you want
Speaker 3: to do and I just didn't feel right about doing it,
Speaker 3: not like I wanted to get a first down and
Speaker 3: then do it. I didn't want to do it like
Speaker 3: the first play of the drive. I didn't want to
Speaker 3: do it on second and eight, like after the first
Speaker 3: play of the drive. I wanted to, like, can we
Speaker 3: get a first down? And then once we get the
Speaker 3: first down, let's try it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And so we did. We got a first down, and
Speaker 3: then I think it was right around midfield and it
Speaker 3: was kind of the right time to do it, and
Speaker 3: Dean acquiesced. He brought the star blitz off the side
Speaker 3: that we threw the ball to. He gave us. We
Speaker 3: didn't know we were going to get that, but it
Speaker 3: made the play better because we only had one guy
Speaker 3: out there that we needed to block and it wasn't
Speaker 3: too and so was that gronk out there. I think
Speaker 3: it was gronk out there. And then Danny did a
Speaker 3: good job of hesitating and going by. But you know,
Speaker 3: after I asked him if he needed any lead time,
Speaker 3: he said no, Bill had already you know, signed off
Speaker 3: on the whole thing. And I just really wanted to
Speaker 3: get a first down, So it wasn't so like almost
Speaker 3: like desperate, like we got to try this right off
Speaker 3: the bat, you know what I mean. I wanted to, yeah,
Speaker 3: get a little get a little bit of a momentum
Speaker 3: going in the drive and then give ourselves a chance
Speaker 3: to see if we could hit it. So and it
Speaker 3: was perfect because it was on our sideline. I love
Speaker 3: doing those things when they're on your sideline.
Speaker 1: So when you're seeing when I'm going over in motion,
Speaker 1: what's going through your mind?
Speaker 3: It's not man. And then when I saw the guy
Speaker 3: start to creep in and they was gonna blitz, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, we couldn't have drawn up a better
Speaker 3: like them, playing a better defense for the play. It
Speaker 3: was really just gonna matter whether the corner bit it
Speaker 3: or he didn't. Yeah, and you know, Danny did a
Speaker 3: good job of bluffing it and then went by.
Speaker 4: You mentioned, you know, want to do a play like
Speaker 4: that after first down and doing it on your own sideline?
Speaker 4: These little details? Is that like the factor room with
Speaker 4: your play calling? Is that innate? Is that something with reps?
Speaker 4: Like where do you pick up those little details when
Speaker 4: it comes into your crafts of play call?
Speaker 3: I think it's just probably experience, you know. I don't
Speaker 3: like I think when you're coming off the sideline and
Speaker 3: like the defense is kind of ready for almost anything,
Speaker 3: you know, Like, I don't think that's a great time
Speaker 3: to like spring your craziest play on them all the time.
Speaker 3: I think it's almost like you run a play, you
Speaker 3: run a second play. Oh, you got a first down.
Speaker 3: So they're kind of like, all right, they're just driving
Speaker 3: the ball. They're just trying to do the same stuff
Speaker 3: they've been doing, you know, throwing the ball here, dink
Speaker 3: and dunk, which is what I wanted him to be thinking.
Speaker 3: And they got So we get a first down and
Speaker 3: we're into a drive. The defensive coordinator he knows we're
Speaker 3: not going fast. He's into his drive. Now you know
Speaker 3: what I mean mean meaning Deans. You know, you kind
Speaker 3: of get into a rhythm of the drive itself. Each
Speaker 3: drive is different, and so we first down, play, huddle,
Speaker 3: second dount play, first down, go back to the huddle,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So now Dean's in his
Speaker 3: rhythm too, and so again the it just I thought
Speaker 3: that was a better way to do it, honestly than
Speaker 3: go out there and be desperate and try to hurry
Speaker 3: up and get to it.
Speaker 1: And you know, people don't realize these you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how it's in other places, but here's a
Speaker 1: department that studies and gives everyone around the league what
Speaker 1: they're doing to our coaches, and they look at it.
Speaker 1: These guys study it so you know, you could always
Speaker 1: see when it's the best opportunity. He's probably seen this
Speaker 1: situation go down. May not be the specific trick play,
Speaker 1: but a different trick play that you know, a team
Speaker 1: off of. You know, a big play makes another big
Speaker 1: play feels desperate, you know. So these guys they're always
Speaker 1: watching the game, and that's how they get their experiences,
Speaker 1: not only through coaching it, but watching other coaches. The
Speaker 1: great coaches will use their experiences and implicate it into
Speaker 1: their own.
Speaker 3: And I've made I've I've called enough plays and made
Speaker 3: enough mistakes when I was younger, you know, to like
Speaker 3: all right, well that sucked, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like that totally wasn't the right time to do that,
Speaker 3: you know, and you just I think learning through your
Speaker 3: failings as you're going is a helpful thing. So you
Speaker 3: have a little bit of wisdom, you know, after you've
Speaker 3: put enough pelts on the wall, you know where now
Speaker 3: you kind of know like that's I remember not to
Speaker 3: do that because of the game. And I tried it
Speaker 3: and it backfired, you know. And the other thing I
Speaker 3: would say about this is, and you would attest to this,
Speaker 3: we practiced those things, and we didn't act like they
Speaker 3: were like so special that it was like impossible for
Speaker 3: us to succeed at them. I treated those things like
Speaker 3: almost like a play action pass, like a flea flicker
Speaker 3: or a double Like if you rep it enough, what's
Speaker 3: the difference.
Speaker 1: Like other than the ball handling?
Speaker 3: And yeah, but I trusted you enough and we'd repped
Speaker 3: it enough where I was like I didn't call it
Speaker 3: and go like this like what's gonna happen? I called
Speaker 3: it going as long as the defense is going to
Speaker 3: give it to us. I've seen us execute this many times.
Speaker 3: Look at he's got this smile like, Yeah, tell him
Speaker 3: how many times I hit it in practice?
Speaker 1: I think I overthrew him three or four times. You
Speaker 1: were gloves too, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Because you always shits on quarterbacks when they wear their gloves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not gonna take my glove off.
Speaker 3: Well that's why that the thing is you take it off.
Speaker 3: Then these guys Baltimore might have been perceptive enough.
Speaker 1: This guy Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: Next, Josh McDaniel's details what it's like coaching under Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick and Nick Saban.
Speaker 1: You coached at Michigan State, you got just for one year?
Speaker 1: For one year with Saban? Was that part of ready?
Speaker 3: Right after I graduated from Carol.
Speaker 1: And so did did you think Nick gave you a
Speaker 1: recommendation of Bill?
Speaker 3: Sure? I don't, I mean I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Brian, So, Brian was a second year GA. I was
Speaker 3: a first year GA. So he was a year older
Speaker 3: than me. Brian dable table. So when I got there,
Speaker 3: Brian was already in his second year, and so I
Speaker 3: was in my first year. So that was a huge
Speaker 3: experience for me because coming to New England with Bill
Speaker 3: after being with Nick, it didn't seem like such a
Speaker 3: like oh my gosh, yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: because I'd already like, all right, I know what this
Speaker 3: is like, you know, after having been with.
Speaker 1: Nick, what are the similarities and differences Nick is?
Speaker 3: Nick is not afraid to really detail it out, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like there would be like a
Speaker 3: cover one tip sheet for the DB's that was like
Speaker 3: this thick that's just cover us one defense, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's like, holy cow, you know, if
Speaker 3: you do this, do this, you know, got that, you know,
Speaker 3: and he believed in preparation, preparation, preparation. It was relentless
Speaker 3: in that regard. Bill was very much the same, but
Speaker 3: less like he would try to simplify I thought, you know,
Speaker 3: as much as he could, you know, and we might
Speaker 3: play cover one, but he's not going to overwhelm you
Speaker 3: with you know, too much detail. But I mean, honestly,
Speaker 3: there's their personalities are a little different. Everybody thinks Bill
Speaker 3: is what you see in the media, and as you know,
Speaker 3: it's not like that, you know. So it was fun,
Speaker 3: It was really it was great for me to have
Speaker 3: a chance to be with Nick before going.
Speaker 1: To Bill baptize you into it, no doubt. You know,
Speaker 1: we all forget Anakin was the Jedi first. Okay, he
Speaker 1: was a Jedi.
Speaker 3: M well, hell, hell,