WEBVTT - Josh McDaniels Best Patriots Stories 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.240 Welcome to Games Lanes. I'm Julian Edelman, and we got 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:07.760 a brand new compilation highlight Reels starting now now. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.440 Josh bray Daniels gives his thoughts on Drake May before 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:12.480 he returned. 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:12.879 To the Patriots. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:15.200 Have you watched a little bit of May Drake May 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:16.680 I have? What do you think I have him? 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:18.919 I didn't. I didn't get to see a ton of 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:23.480 them in the spring. But he's obviously got great size, 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:27.360 really athletic. I don't know where he'll fit in the whole, 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.280 like you know, the style he'll play with. I'm interested 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.920 to see how that develops, Like is he going to 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.720 be a run a little bit of a runner like 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.360 Josh Allen was in Buffalo. I don't think he's quite 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.040 as big as Josh is, but like you know, guys 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.160 like that that have those kind of attributes, you can 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.080 use him to run the football too, you know. And 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.159 so I don't think we've seen all that yet in 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.040 the preseason, but I'm interested to see when he plays 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.920 if he becomes a little bit more of a dual 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.800 threat guy or if he's just a pocket passer and 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.480 a big, tall, strong guy in the pocket. But the 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.600 games I've seen he's you know, he's done a good job. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.880 And you know last night, you know, he played and 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.480 he had that third and fourteen on that first drive, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.840 backed up and he got that with his legs, yep, 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.280 which you know was cover five. Look, I think, yeah, 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.840 man or something, and he you know, that was pretty 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:15.360 cool to see. 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.840 Yep. Uh, he's stepping up in the pocket, which is 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.120 for a young guys, you know, like that's not always 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.240 the easiest thing to get him to do. And I 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.160 saw him multiple times last night. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.679 Move forward the crunch yea and that crunch stock. You 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.680 know he stepped up, he didn't. You know, there's a 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.120 lot of times where a young quarterback can't keep his 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.119 eyes down field while he steps up. He takes off 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:36.040 in one of those lanes. 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:36.479 That's right. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.360 He delivered that football to Polk. It looked good. You know, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.240 he still needs to work his feet. He had too 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.119 many throws where you know, he's like this and he's 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.640 trying to do that. Yeah, you know, and he'll learn that, 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.400 hopefully he does. But that was his mo His his feet aren't. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.480 And I don't think he played from under center much. Yeah, 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.680 and you can tell, you know that when when there's 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.680 exchange issues, you know. Usually that's just time on task, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.400 you know, And I doubt he didn't do that much 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.080 in college from what I gather, So I think those 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.800 are the kind of things that'll take some time for 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.480 him to just acclimate, because you can't be you can't 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.040 be thinking about how to get the ball from the center. Yeah, 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.880 when you're dealing with backup center defenses and like what's 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.080 where's the blitz coming from, and what's my read and 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.239 what coverage are they playing? You got it? You can't 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.440 be thinking about how to get the ball. 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.280 That's a lot. I mean Foxborough High, right, that's right, 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.320 Foxborough High right there, that's exactly. One thing also pissed 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:29.040 me off is the cleat thing he's wearing, those slipper cleats. Yeah, 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.360 like the dude, you're too you're two thirty, you're sixty four. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.160 You can't be wearing dB one hundred and ninety five 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:36.839 pound cleats. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.519 The foot where the guard get him and it just 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:39.200 slipped off. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:39.639 Slipped off. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:40.520 I didn't like that. 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.639 That made me mad. You got to protect those things, 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.320 especially your quarterback. You learn how to play with the 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:46.000 heavy cleat. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:46.560 That's right. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.840 They always say you can't. You might as well start 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.480 with Jakobe first, because you can never pull the kid 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.840 once you put them in. Yeah, you know, and so 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.920 that's going to be an interesting decision what they have 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.200 going into week one, you know. And you know Girad 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.400 he's a level headed guy. He's very smart guy. Yep, 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.480 and you listed all the characteristics he had. I mean, 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:12.040 captain this that he checks all the boxes. I'm excited 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:12.960 for his opportunity. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.320 Next up, Josh McDaniels on developing Tom Brady with the 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.280 Patriots developing young quarterbacks. Can you can you talk about that? 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:20.760 You know? 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:21.639 What's the process? 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:21.840 Like? 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.880 You were a huge part of help developing Tom Brady, right, 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.160 that's when you first came in two thousand and two 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.440 thousand and one. Ye, you developed him and the other guys. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:34.520 But what it developing a quarterback? What's that process like now? 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.080 And who also makes that decision? Is the head coach, 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:40.480 is the offensive coordinator? Is it, you know, the quarterback coach? 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.440 Or is it everyone's doing it their own. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.720 I think I think you have to have a plan, 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.960 you know, and that obviously starts from the head coach 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.720 his perspective, and you have to you know, be able 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.840 to agree on how you're going to kind of unveil 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.360 that thing to the to the player and you know, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.240 and ultimately bring him along. You know, you were a 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.080 young player that needed to make progress every step of 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.800 the way. Yeah, and this is no different. It's just 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.200 there's so much notoriety and so much attention on the 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.640 quarterback position. So if they're not talking about your arm angle, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.920 they're talking about your footwork. If they're not talking about that, 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.720 they're talking about your eyes or your read or how 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.840 you navigated the pocket. And there's a lot of things 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.640 that go into playing it well. But at the end 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.320 of the day, I think you got to take the 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.400 player where he's at, you know, when he comes in, 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:35.719 whether that was Castle or Garoppolo or Stidham or Brissett 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.800 or mac aidan O'Connell, like, you got to take the 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.520 player where he's at. They're all at different spots, they 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.960 all have been taught different things. They've all you know, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.960 digested different amounts of information. Some have played in different 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.919 systems than yours. Some have played in maybe some that 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.200 were a little bit more like yours, And you just 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:57.760 got to figure out, all right, what do they know 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.240 and what am I going to try to you know, 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:06.040 push forward to get him to progress the quickest. You know, 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.400 I think I can get this and this done in 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:13.920 OTA's okay, great cadence play calls footwork all right, good 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.280 and in training camp. You know, now I got to 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.120 get him to see different coverages and understand defenses a 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.720 little bit more, you know, protections, you know, and then 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.719 you know, move forward, you know, ball security, and then 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.080 the red zone is a different animal, and third down 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.320 and two minute offense. So there's a lot of things 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.640 that go into it. But I think it's just having 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.240 a really good feel for where's the player at. Yeah, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.040 you know, can't just keep throwing stuff at him. Always 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.840 talk about it. They have a bucket. You guys all 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.440 had a bucket, and yours was a big bucket at 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.640 the end, like you could handle whatever we gave you. Well, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.040 when you take a young quarterback, it's more like a cup. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.240 You know. You got to put some some stuff in 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.080 his cup, and when it gets to the top, you 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.200 got to stop, you know what I mean, and then 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.039 make sure that he you know, got has this and 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.960 he can do it well. And then okay, so then 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.400 when he's ready for more than you get him a 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.599 bigger cup and then hopefully he ends up with a 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.400 bucket and you've got a bunch of stuff in there 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.160 that you can do well. But there's no shortcut. There's 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.400 no shortcut to it. And I think knowing where the 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.520 players at is really important. Yeah. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.400 Now, some you know, a lot of people have been 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.200 talking about, you know, the systems in the NFL. You 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.560 got the West Coast system, then you have like our system, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:32.840 the Charlie Weiss Patriot system, and they say that the 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:39.120 West Coast system is pretty much it protects the quarterback, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.080 the offensive linement, help with the protections everyone, you know, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.240 everyone with the quarterback, you go where the ball is 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.200 supposed to go. It's step system for the receivers. Is 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.640 it harder to develop a quarterback in our system, because 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.520 that's what people are trying to say, than it is 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:55.839 in the West Coast system. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.279 I think it depends on the way you look at that. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:06.960 If the goal is just to restrict the volume of 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.840 responsibility that you place on him right away, then it 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.800 certainly could be. If at the end of the day 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:20.000 your goal is to have him understand how to handle 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.440 all the problems and take care of those things that 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.000 come up in the big games in order for him 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:32.000 to help you win them, then maybe it's worth it. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.000 You know, that was always our mindset. Is basically what 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.400 we're talking about here is who's going to do the 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.800 stuff prior to the ball being snapped. All the quarterbacks 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.320 have to do the same thing. Once the ball is 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.720 in their hand. They got to understand what happened relative 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.400 to the protection or the pressures. They have to read 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.120 the coverage. They have to identify a guy that they 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.000 think is open and make accurate throws and protect the 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:57.840 ball like everybody does the same thing once the ball snapped. Really, 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.520 what we're talking about is pre snap responsible. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:01.240 Pre stap responsibility. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.840 That's it. And so I always looked at it like 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.280 a mountain, like at the beginning, we're at the bottom, 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.680 we're trying to climb it. And at the beginning, when 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.760 you start talking to them about making the calls and 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.160 setting the protections and dealing with the run game and 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.640 all those things that we you know, we taught our 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.200 players how to do. You know, it's it's harder because 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.280 it's foreign. It's not that they don't understand it, it's 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.240 just different. And so at the beginning they're at the 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.400 bottom of the mountain. You look up and you're like, God, damn, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.000 that's a tall mountain, you know. But always felt like, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.240 as we went through the first year, all right, you're 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.559 getting up the mountain. You know it, I know it, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.800 we all know it. And then once you get to 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.560 the top of the mountain, now there's nothing left to 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.920 climb because you understand it. You understand how to manipulate 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.280 the protection, how to solve your issues in prep with 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.440 blood zero and those kind of things, and and and 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.960 just be able to to to do it at a 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.040 high level, you know, because I always thought like, Okay, Tom, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.200 everybody knows Tom's won a lot. Well Tom did it 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.600 that way. Peyton did a lot too, you know, Peyton 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.240 won a lot, he did it that way. You know. 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.520 I know that Pat's some you know, in some way, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.240 shape or form able to handle some of those things 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.400 as well. I just think having the quarterback never be 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:18.960 responsible for any of that stuff. You know, there's some 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.160 downside to it. You know. Other people might argue that 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.440 that's not the case, but I would say that, you know, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.760 there's there's pros and cons to both. You know. I 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.360 love the I love the idea of having the quarterback 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.880 able to understand it all. Yeah, I really do. 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.200 I mean I did too. That's the quarterback. That's why 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:38.240 he's paid all goddamn money, you know, fuck sixty five 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.440 million dollars Nowaday, Now going back to you know the 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.800 buckets and the cups. Yeah, when you were developing Team 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.960 Tim Tebow, did you know that in that cup, we're 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:50.880 like fifteen hundred circumcisions? 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:51.240 Like? 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.360 Was that part of that? Was that part of Like? 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.640 Was that in the scout no comment? I mean, did 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.920 we know that he was circumcising comments? 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:00.520 Me? 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.720 Games with names, Games with names? 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.920 One of my favorite on this podcast, The question was 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.080 how big with Tim Tebow's cup? Was we wanted that? 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.280 Oh yeah, it's a holy water grail. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:20.760 Now the story of Julian disobeying Josh McDaniels and throwing 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:21.959 the touchdown pass. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.920 After we scored that touchdown. I remember that's that's when 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:26.760 you came up to me. 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.560 I did. I said, do you need any lead time 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.000 for the double pass? And you and you said what? 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:32.920 And I said, do I have to tell you that 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.920 it's coming? Meaning like you need to take your red 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:40.360 gloves off or whatever? You know, your cutters or whatever. 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.360 They are, like, what do you do? Do I need 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.480 to tell you that this is coming like five minutes 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.760 in advance. You're like, no, no, no, yeah, that's what 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.320 you said. Just throw it, just call it whenever you want. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.640 I'm like, okay, you know, so we so we did. Yeah, 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.600 that was the the first touchdown was the one we 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.800 actually did the Raven Baltimore formation the first time. First 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.760 time we were down by fourteen, and then when we 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.120 scored one, that's when we went with the double pass. 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.479 A double pass speaking of pass, which we had actually. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.360 Called earlier in the season against the Chiefs. Against the Chiefs, 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:13.960 just didn't we just didn't throw it over there. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.439 We called it, and you know it was Dola. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.360 Gonna throw it. Wasn't It was it you or Dola. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.360 I don't remember. I watched this morning. It was gonna 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.160 be you. But Dola was like saying he was playing 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.360 to man coverage, like we couldn't do it. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.920 Was trying to call you off when you were in motion. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:29.920 Yeah. 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.559 Can we go into the second time I threw the football. 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.640 Twenty nineteen in Philly, Philly, Yeah, we can do that. 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.880 It was a great story. Juice's story Jesus told his 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.320 side to hear your side. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.360 I don't know if my memories really fucked up. 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.119 The night before the game. This is the story. Yeah, 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.840 so we well this wasn't the same play. No, it's 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.760 a different play. Throw it here, throw it back and 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:02.439 set up the catch and run. And in the we 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.920 we always did like a little ballroom, which always felt 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.200 like you guys loved that. I loved it. To reiterate, 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.720 it was almost like a very comforting feeling when you 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.679 walked out of there, like we all study. We all 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.120 got it. Yeah, we all got it. And it was loose. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.840 And and so. But it wasn't always loose, depending on 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.280 like the games. Sometimes we go in there running hard 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.240 and stuff. I no, but that was that was But 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:23.840 I don't think we ever went in there like. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.400 It wasn't like a big like it wasn't like a 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.960 big like teaching session at all. It was I would 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.199 I would call the play, you guys would get on 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.120 you would do it and walk through it, and that 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:33.560 was it. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.560 But if you had like a new player coming in 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.160 that had a big role, that was different, you know, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.839 like if he was nervous and we were all kind 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.080 of watching them too, as. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.839 Well and Julian. Julian, well, I'll tell them to tell 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:50.240 two stories quickly. The when he came back in two thousand. 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.160 Eighteen, eighteen eighteen. 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:56.920 Okay, so the walkthrough because we played on a Thursday night, 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.959 so we didn't have practice, we didn't have any practice 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.560 that week because he's just walked through. Well he does. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:08.600 He does the hotel like walk through and he's soaked 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:13.679 because he's like running routes in the ballroom like but 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.600 nobody else. And Tom always had like a little lacrosseball 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.480 and he would bounce it to you to like show you. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.200 And Julian is literally like you could see everything, like 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.080 he was just drenched. And I remember the other guys 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.600 were like looking at him, like what is going on 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.520 with this guy. I'm like, yeah, he's a little he's 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.800 obsessive compulsive. Right now, I think he needs to play 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.920 a game, is what I need. He got up a 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.320 wheel for you in the first possession, Hey walk through 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.480 like you play? So anyway, the Philly So the Philly 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.320 game was the second throw that night in the hotel 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.600 the night before the game, we go walk through it, 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.320 Tom dribble bounce to the ball to Julian. Julian gets 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.600 the ball and then he looks, he looks and throws 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:03.760 it to phil Bill just Bills just wandering up the field, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:05.920 trying to get at the defense to come this way, 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.440 and Philly catches it. And I look at him and 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:14.040 I'm like, don't you know you do that? And I 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.000 think we actually did it again, just so he so 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:18.840 he would like do it right, you know what I mean. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.800 And then we get in the game and he gets 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.920 the ball and he looks down the field and Philly's open, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.000 and then he lets it go and I'm just like 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.280 and then he caught it, and I'm like, I don't know. 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.080 Those are the ones that's coaches where you're just like, 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.000 that's a hell of a play. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.000 Thigures. If I would have flip my hipsky was my face, 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.680 I would have got you got you did get. I 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:36.240 got drilled. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.040 He got drilled, drilled. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:38.880 I come run off. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.760 When I come run off, You're fucking dangerous, dude, You 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:47.480 are dangerous. You're dangerous. But that was all I remember, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.520 because you were the only one that threw a touchdown 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.560 past that game. Oh yeah, So I remember like like, 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.040 and then he would come in the next day and 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.440 he would put ice. He would have his shoulder wrapped 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.000 in ice in the and he would sit in the front, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.240 you know by but like, yeah, I got it. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.480 You know, I'd always come in like the last person 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:05.160 to come in. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.880 A way, just like that coach. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:08.560 You got the door. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:13.360 Don't worry, you got that. I take care of that. 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.040 The trade used to have called the ice feed in 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.440 front of everyone, looking like you just threw a complete 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:18.520 game shutout. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.760 Like yeah, literally, like it's Randy Johnson after a nine inning. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.320 Oh my, I will say that pass your dangerous Maverick 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.000 moment in Philly put jewels at five of six one 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.960 hundred and forty one yards in two tds as a passer. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.600 There you go. What his reading had to be exceptional. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:36.440 That had to be amazing. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.680 Yeah. We had the the one in the Super Bowl 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.880 to Dion oh man, he was close to it. He 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:43.560 almost made that. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.560 He almost made that catch. That was it. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:46.520 I shouldn't have thrown it. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.720 That was nuts. What you mean was he open? You know? 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.200 He got him? It was like, just buy him. The 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.440 guy did a good job of peeling on it. Yeah, 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.360 but the rest of the defense was over there. That 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:58.440 game was a blur. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:01.040 One fifty eight point three. 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:02.040 That's perfect. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:02.520 That's perfect. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:02.960 That's perfect. 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:03.960 Someone say, that's pretty good. 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.000 Say. The loudest I've ever heard that stadium was when 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.520 you threw the double pass and scored that. I've never 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.400 heard that stadium. That stadium has been loud a number 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:19.680 of times in our lives. That was the loudest noise 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.640 that I personally had heard, like because it was almost like, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.400 you know, like we we came back once. Now we're 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.800 down two touches, and so they're like, oh no, not again. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.200 Then we come back again, and and to do it 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.200 that way with you hitting Dan. I mean, that was 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.640 as noisy as I think. I can never remember that was. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.600 That was a fun That was a fun play, but 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.240 it wasn't over so well. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.360 Before we do that, we let we have players on. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.520 We like to walk through like a specific moment, jenneral 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.480 from the Big Game. We've heard Jules's perspective, We've heard 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.920 Danny mcdolea's perspective of that play. I love to hear 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.920 your like beat by beat perspective of that double pass play. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:17:00.360 So down seven, then they punted, got the ball back. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.720 I remember it was ready and I had already checked 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.919 with Bill, you know, like we're good. He goes whenever 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:12.800 you know, whatever you want to do it, I'm good, 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.400 and you know, because I always felt like whenever you're 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.679 running something, it's a little bit screwy. Yeah, you know, 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.000 just you better check with your big boss and make 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.800 sure that you're you're you're not doing it. And he 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.000 doesn't want you to like fake punts, and you know, 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.560 so he was he already signed off whenever you want 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.440 to do and I just didn't feel right about doing it, 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:36.040 not like I wanted to get a first down and 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.320 then do it. I didn't want to do it like 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.800 the first play of the drive. I didn't want to 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.880 do it on second and eight, like after the first 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.960 play of the drive. I wanted to, like, can we 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.040 get a first down? And then once we get the 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.360 first down, let's try it, you know what I mean. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.679 And so we did. We got a first down, and 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.840 then I think it was right around midfield and it 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.119 was kind of the right time to do it, and 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:03.639 Dean acquiesced. He brought the star blitz off the side 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.040 that we threw the ball to. He gave us. We 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.480 didn't know we were going to get that, but it 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.040 made the play better because we only had one guy 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.439 out there that we needed to block and it wasn't 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.280 too and so was that gronk out there. I think 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.520 it was gronk out there. And then Danny did a 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.639 good job of hesitating and going by. But you know, 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.440 after I asked him if he needed any lead time, 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.880 he said no, Bill had already you know, signed off 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.040 on the whole thing. And I just really wanted to 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.760