WEBVTT - Dwindling Dodgers vs. rising Pads + Sacto A’s want more day games

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN reporter Alden Gonzalez joining us right now in foul territory. Alden,

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<v Speaker 1>great to see you. I always look forward to your

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<v Speaker 1>informative tweets and coverage at night on the West Coast,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly in Insomniac.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Prime time for you right now. You've got the Dodgers fallen,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the Padres rising, and these two teams are

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<v Speaker 1>meeting up this weekend. Yeah, exactly, exactly. If people can

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<v Speaker 1>see what AJ's doing right now for the podcast listeners

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<v Speaker 1>later on, there's a little bit of a choke symbol, Alden.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you seeing on the day to day right now?

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<v Speaker 1>And let's start with the Dodgers, right you'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>start with the panic mode and how they've really fallen

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<v Speaker 1>apart to let the Padres jump back into this spot.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think I mean, it's a prolonged stretch

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<v Speaker 2>of bad for them. I mean you look at July third,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a nine game lead in the NL West.

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<v Speaker 2>Since then, they are twelve and twenty two. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know who has a twelve and twenty two records since

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<v Speaker 2>July fourth? Along with the Dodgers, It's the Colorado Rockies.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how the Dodgers been playing, and I think the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing right now, and it stood out in this series,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the last two nights. On any given night, Dave

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<v Speaker 2>Roberts doesn't really have a high leverage reliever to turn

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<v Speaker 2>to to hold leads. Blake China hasn't looked right since

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<v Speaker 2>coming back off the IL, and there are six high

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<v Speaker 2>leverage guys on the injured list right now, and the

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<v Speaker 2>last one was Brought Stewart, the one guy that they

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<v Speaker 2>got for their bullpen. He's out now with shoulder inflammation.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously the natural question is why didn't the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 2>go do more. They were in on another high leverage guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't willing to give up their best prospects to

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<v Speaker 2>get them, and that was with the thought that they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to get a bunch of guys back, and

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<v Speaker 2>they are Kirby Yates, Michael Kopek, Tanner Scott. Those guys

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<v Speaker 2>should be back before the end of the month. The

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<v Speaker 2>problem is that there's urgency right now and over these

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<v Speaker 2>next few weeks, nobody has any idea who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be closing games for the Dodgers, let alone bridging the

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<v Speaker 2>gap to the ninth inning in the seventh and eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you couple that with an offense that has

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<v Speaker 2>been better lately but still not as good as it

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<v Speaker 2>should be, what you get is this and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>club that hasn't really spiled like this in years, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's pretty insane to watch on a nightly basis.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest, they don't have a closer, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>but there was a ton of closers available at the

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<v Speaker 3>trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard anything that the.

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers were getting asked higher prices because everybody sees the

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<v Speaker 3>Dodgers as well, we want to win the World Series.

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<v Speaker 3>If they're calling about our closer, we're gonna ask more.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna do that. Like, is there is there any

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<v Speaker 3>of that? Or was it the Dodgers lack of willingness

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<v Speaker 3>to say, well, we need help when reality was they've

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<v Speaker 3>been drowning and they needed help at the trade deadline?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's more of the latter. I

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<v Speaker 2>think when you're a team that's trading away these these

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<v Speaker 2>big time relievers, like your focus is just to get

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<v Speaker 2>the best return as pops And I think the interesting

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<v Speaker 2>thing about the Dodgers basically, every trade deadline is when

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<v Speaker 2>you match up their farm system and the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>they can give up. Because of the talent they have

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<v Speaker 2>on the major league level compared to all the other teams,

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<v Speaker 2>they could beat out practically anybody at the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>The question always comes down to their willingness. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their front office is constant. They talk about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>They're constantly and they're no different, but they're constantly weighing

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<v Speaker 2>the now versus the latter, and it's a calibration that

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<v Speaker 2>they have yet to fully figure out. And so you

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<v Speaker 2>saw what they did this offseason. They were as aggressive

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<v Speaker 2>as anybody that was largely and they said this often

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't want to have to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>buy at the trade deadline. But the other part of it, too,

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<v Speaker 2>is what they did this offseason to spend money. They

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<v Speaker 2>have money, they'll spend money. What they're not willing to

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<v Speaker 2>do as much is give up young players for players

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<v Speaker 2>that they feel are only going to give them maybe

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<v Speaker 2>like a very minuscule advantage for the stretch run of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. Now, you could definitely argue that and it

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<v Speaker 2>will be very valid. I'm just telling you that that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of their calculus this time of year, and so

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<v Speaker 2>when they looked ahead, their thought was, Okay, it looks

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<v Speaker 2>bleak now, but look at who we have coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have Kopek and Yates and Tenor Scott and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and we'll just get brock Stewart. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>great against right handed posing right handed hitters. He could

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<v Speaker 2>fit in nicely, and that's great in theory. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think when you look at it now, it's not only

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<v Speaker 2>about how are they covering these next few weeks, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's also a lot is going to have to go

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<v Speaker 2>right for all these relievers coming back in order for

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<v Speaker 2>them to show up as the strength that the front

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<v Speaker 2>office thinks they will be. Yeates and Scott haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>good all year. Michael Kopek has made eight appearances this season.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying those guys aren't going to be good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying they can't afford any more hiccups. So

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<v Speaker 2>the margin for error on this season is it feels

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly small. Right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, hold up, Alden, I gotta know this. They were

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to go one hundred and sixty two and oh

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<v Speaker 4>they were supposed to be the greatest team ever assembled.

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<v Speaker 4>And now you're saying they have a tiny margin for error.

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<v Speaker 4>What changed? Because remember this offseason everyone was saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>the Dodgers are unbeatable, they'll never lose, They're gonna win everything.

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<v Speaker 4>They're gonna do this, They're gonna do that, Like just

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<v Speaker 4>be are the injuries that bad that they can't cover them?

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<v Speaker 4>Because people said, oh, they have ten starting pitchers and

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<v Speaker 4>they have twenty five relievers? What happened to all that? Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I know, injuries, but the narrative has changed so quickly

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<v Speaker 4>from the greatest team ever assembled to holy crap, this

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<v Speaker 4>team's not in first place.

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<v Speaker 2>AJ. That's the beauty of baseball, isn't it that? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought every expert said, oh, it's so bad for baseball.

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<v Speaker 4>Every fan that Dodgers are like, see, you just never know?

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<v Speaker 2>And ah, I think, and you could definitely speak to this,

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think outside of just what baseball is,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason why there hasn't been a repeat champion

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<v Speaker 2>in Major League Baseball in twenty five years. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just the randomization of adding extra playoff rounds, which

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<v Speaker 2>might be real too, but it's not. When you're playing

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<v Speaker 2>deep into October and sometimes November, there's a price to

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<v Speaker 2>be paid. There's a price to be paid, especially with

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<v Speaker 2>your pitching. And when you look at just when you

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<v Speaker 2>take a step back from this season, look at the

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<v Speaker 2>injuries that they've suffered in their bullpen, a bullpen that

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<v Speaker 2>they rode really hard last October to win a championship.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of that has shown up. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the only reason why they are where they are

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I mean, you look at Freddie Freeman slump

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<v Speaker 2>for a while, Mookie Betts is not having the year

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<v Speaker 2>that you would expect to Oscar Hernandez, Tommy Edmund. They

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<v Speaker 2>just haven't been right. That's certainly part of it. The

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<v Speaker 2>rotation early on was very injured. It is now healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was very injured early on in the year.

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<v Speaker 2>That taxed the bullpen even more so. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to the members of the twenty twenty three Rangers

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<v Speaker 2>and how winning the World Series spilled over into twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. Talk to members of the current Dodgers about

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<v Speaker 2>just the toll on the body, not just playing deep

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<v Speaker 2>into October last year but then opening up remember mid

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<v Speaker 2>March in Japan. I think that has a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>do with it as well. And it's just it's hard,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will I didn't think they were gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixty two and oh obviously, and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't I didn't even think that they might. I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they'll have a chance at setting the regular season

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<v Speaker 2>wins record, but I knew that was unlikely. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>they were as well set up to be a repeat

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<v Speaker 2>champion as maybe anybody this century because of how they

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<v Speaker 2>fortified that roster in the offseason. But it just goes

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<v Speaker 2>to show how difficult winning back to back champions is

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<v Speaker 2>championships mean.

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<v Speaker 4>To follow up on this, we talk about this with

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<v Speaker 4>the Mets a lot. Their starters don't go deep, and

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<v Speaker 4>the Dodgers for years have not allowed their starters to

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<v Speaker 4>go deep into games, especially in the postseason. And then

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<v Speaker 4>the bullpen just slowly but surely gets worn down, worn down,

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<v Speaker 4>worn down, And that's kind of what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of starting injuries, so they don't trust guys

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<v Speaker 4>to go as deep, right, then the bullpen gets used,

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<v Speaker 4>then you get the bullpen injuries. Is this just a

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<v Speaker 4>combination of the philosophy of what the Dodgers have been

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<v Speaker 4>for years and years and now it's this is the

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<v Speaker 4>year it's finally really kind of catching them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's certainly a valid point, Aja, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would say that that is an industry wide issue where

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<v Speaker 2>starters are not going deep. Bullpens are being taxed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the Dodgers are guilty of that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>What they will tell you as a counter is that

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<v Speaker 2>they feel like every year they're going to be writing

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<v Speaker 2>their starters in October and they got to save them

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<v Speaker 2>for that. I mean, look, yoshinob Yamamoto, I think is

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<v Speaker 2>a good example. He's made every turn through the rotation,

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<v Speaker 2>but his innings are very manageable, partly because he's part

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<v Speaker 2>of a six man rotation most of the time. Partly

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<v Speaker 2>because to your point, AJ, he doesn't go super deep

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<v Speaker 2>in the games because they want him healthy for the

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<v Speaker 2>stretch run. I think that's part of it. But I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go back to what I said before. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>bigger part of why that bullpen was taxed is because

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<v Speaker 2>they were just really hurt. I mean, the Dodgers got

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<v Speaker 2>to a point early in the year up until like July,

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<v Speaker 2>they were staging bullpen games twice a week and they

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<v Speaker 2>were also suffering injuries to their bullpen, a bullpen that,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, had been taxed on October. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>not sustainable and Dodgers I haven't checked recently, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>almost certain I'm correct that Dodgers' relievers lead the major

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<v Speaker 2>leagues and innings. They've led the major leagues in innings

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<v Speaker 2>basically all year. And yes, that could be a function

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<v Speaker 2>of where the game is going with the usage of

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<v Speaker 2>starting pitching. But I think it's more pronounced for them

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<v Speaker 2>that they've just had a lot of pitching injuries. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, it's a second consecutive year in which

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<v Speaker 2>they've had a lot of pitching injurers.

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<v Speaker 3>I got one more Dodgers que for you. Is there

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<v Speaker 3>a team that needs to have the wild card by

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<v Speaker 3>like miss the wildcard round more than the Dodgers, a

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<v Speaker 3>team that they've been mitigating injuries. You've even talked about

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<v Speaker 3>Yamamoto like a you know, another extra round does not

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<v Speaker 3>set the Dodgers up very well, so they almost have

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<v Speaker 3>to win the division.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think I think you're right about that, Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the thing about the Dodgers that we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen this in recent years as and maybe that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the case this year because they might be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more flawed, But the Dodgers annually are deeper than

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<v Speaker 2>any team in baseball, right, Like from a when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the totality of like a forty man roster

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty six men roster. They have the most depth.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the thought with the Dodgers has been, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to beat them, you got to beat them

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<v Speaker 2>in smaller sample sizes. Right, look at what the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 2>and the Padres did in back to back years in

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<v Speaker 2>the division series. If it's in the wildcard round, probably

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<v Speaker 2>even better. When you stretch to a seven game series

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<v Speaker 2>against them, usually their depth can really show up and

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<v Speaker 2>they can get the better of you. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>saw that during the twenty twenty COVID playoffs, right when

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<v Speaker 2>there were no days off, like that was an advantage

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<v Speaker 2>for them because they were deeper than the teams that

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<v Speaker 2>they faced. And there was a huge narrative about the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers when they lost those back to back division series

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<v Speaker 2>and Diningbacks and Padres that like, maybe they just need

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<v Speaker 2>to play the wildcard round. And the thought with them

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<v Speaker 2>was always no, no, no, we'd rather have the days off.

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<v Speaker 2>We would rather set our pitching staff. I know it

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't gone well, but we would much rather prefer to

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<v Speaker 2>get to buy And that's why, honestly, that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>like this playoff format, like, there's a real incentive to

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<v Speaker 2>get one of those top two seeds in each league

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<v Speaker 2>because team see it as an advantage, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers are foremost among them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have the Padres. We only got a

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<v Speaker 1>minute left here, but take everything that you just said

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<v Speaker 1>and then reverse it, right, Hey, the Dodgers need a closer.

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<v Speaker 1>The Padres have five of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny because the Dodger strength is

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<v Speaker 2>in their rotation. I think it's a legitimate strength too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when you go into a playoff series and

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<v Speaker 2>you could run out Yamamodal smell Glass now and Otani

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<v Speaker 2>with Kershaw also there, that's huge. And the Padres strength

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<v Speaker 2>is in their bullpen's it's five guys maybe six that

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<v Speaker 2>could they could cut games in half in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's been their formula the last two years with

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<v Speaker 2>aj Preller right. Last year he went out and got

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<v Speaker 2>Teter Scott and Jason Adam to a bullpen that did

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<v Speaker 2>need reinforcing, and he sees that as a clear pathway

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<v Speaker 2>to win a World Series. But so when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at last year with the Padres, they didn't really round

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<v Speaker 2>into form until the last two months of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was right after the trade deadline. Aj Preller

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<v Speaker 2>sort of completed that roster and they became one of

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<v Speaker 2>the deepest, most menacing teams in the sport. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they are right now. U Darbage coming back and

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<v Speaker 2>being effective is huge for them. Michael King rejoining their rotation,

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<v Speaker 2>even though his return was spotty, huge for them right

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<v Speaker 2>Like the fact that they could run. They have four

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<v Speaker 2>guys that to go run in the playoffs. But you

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<v Speaker 2>couple it with that bullpen and a lineup that now,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in my view, looks as deep as it

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<v Speaker 2>did last year with ready for Me and Ramon Loreano

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<v Speaker 2>and Ryan O'Hearn. Like that's that team is as good

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<v Speaker 2>as last year's team. And I thought last year's team

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<v Speaker 2>was the best team in baseball going in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hey, they finished basically one win short. They would

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<v Speaker 1>have dusted the Yankees in the World Series. Almost everybody

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that Alden, you're the man. Thank you for joining.

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<v Speaker 4>Did the Dodgers or Padres win the West? One word answer,

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<v Speaker 4>Dodgers or Padres win the West?

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, I'm going Padres.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's sizzle, the A's might push for more day games

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<v Speaker 1>in Sacramento. In twenty twenty six, they had a record

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<v Speaker 1>number of night games on their schedule for this year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's to avoid the heatly any games in the three

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<v Speaker 1>months where it's supposed to be the hottest right June, July,

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<v Speaker 1>and August taking place during the day. Manager Mark Kotze

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<v Speaker 1>was outspoken about this and how it definitely affects rest, recovery,

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<v Speaker 1>family time, et cetera, which is precious in the sport.

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<v Speaker 1>And it has been much cooler this summer than last

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<v Speaker 1>year Sacramento. Last year was blazing and everyone was concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about how that would play out, including the league and

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<v Speaker 1>the team. Now, temperatures have not been as crazy as anticipated,

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<v Speaker 1>and that has led to them thinking, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can sneak in some more day games next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Good idea, aj or bad idea.

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<v Speaker 4>Now next year we'll go back to the way it

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<v Speaker 4>was the year before, right, because just seems like they're

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<v Speaker 4>with the A's, that's what happens. They make these moves

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<v Speaker 4>and then whatever can go wrong has gone wrong, which sucks,

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, I was a big I mean there's

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<v Speaker 4>a day game, night game, if it's a day game

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<v Speaker 4>and you can fly somewhere and get they're quicker, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>all for it. If it's a night game, I'd rather

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<v Speaker 4>just play the night game because your body gets used

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<v Speaker 4>to the night games and during the season, so just

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<v Speaker 4>stick with the night games. But if it helps them

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<v Speaker 4>travel wise, I'm all for it. But the weather, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't control. The weather, you can't control. I thought global

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<v Speaker 4>warming and everything was it was supposed to be one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and seventy two degrees every day in Sacramento. But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. Man, it's that was a joke, by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>so everyone, uh but yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't control the weather. You never know. It could

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<v Speaker 4>be whatever. I don't know, just do what everything is best.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm scratching my head because I'm confused by this. But whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never I've never heard anybody go, man, we want

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<v Speaker 3>more day games. Yeah, it's nice to have a meal

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<v Speaker 3>with your family at night, but it's something that during

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<v Speaker 3>the season you enjoy. For me, I enjoyed having breakfast

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<v Speaker 3>in lunch with my family during spring training. I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>having dinners with my family, And you never get breakfast.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like one of those things just to have

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<v Speaker 3>like a night out, to have a day game and

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<v Speaker 3>a chance of one hundred and ten degree heat, No thanks,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather have a night game unless it's getaway day.

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<v Speaker 3>Getaway day is nice, but no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to have to play in one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ten because you know it's gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah but wait, Kratz, let me throw that back at you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the main concern. They want this for getaway

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<v Speaker 1>days because I guess they're playing later on getaway days.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that's.

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<v Speaker 1>The main concern here, is that they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>play at night for getaway day.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can survive one day. I mean, let's come on,

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<v Speaker 4>you can survive it one day at homestand one day

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<v Speaker 4>home if.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one to twelve, if it's one hundred and twelve degrees,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Done. It played in Tucson. I played one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>forty and Tucson we played every day. Dude, you ever

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<v Speaker 4>been to Tucson in august Son.

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<v Speaker 3>The only place that sucks that sucks more is White

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<v Speaker 3>Sox spring training because it's much hotter than when you

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<v Speaker 3>play at a Dodger spring training. Now in Arizona, it's

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<v Speaker 3>always hotter when you play the White Sox because nobody

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<v Speaker 3>in the stands and the yellow seats are like its

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<v Speaker 3>own sun. But seriously, you one hundred percent agree with AJ.

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<v Speaker 3>You can play in one hundred and ten degrees for

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<v Speaker 3>one day, especially since then you have the recovery of

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<v Speaker 3>essentially a day and a half to your next game,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're flying, so you have to. It is tough

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<v Speaker 3>getting into a city, especially going from the West coast

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<v Speaker 3>to the East coast. It's tough getting into a city

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<v Speaker 3>at seven in the morning. You can go through a

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<v Speaker 3>game and get into the city at one in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>That's way better.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is a good idea for getaway day

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<v Speaker 1>to get games.

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<v Speaker 4>I never had to play getaway days most of the

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<v Speaker 4>time unless I really begged.

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<v Speaker 3>But not because but not because of the weather, like

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<v Speaker 3>the weather. It was brought up. It was brought up

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<v Speaker 3>because of the weather. They're like, oh, well, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>been cooler, we can play more day games. No, you

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<v Speaker 3>play more day games to get out of the city sooner.

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<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, not because we.

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<v Speaker 4>Had a whole conversation krats about this with the with

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<v Speaker 4>the Angels. Remember the Angels were playing all these night

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<v Speaker 4>games and having to travel east to play right, and

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<v Speaker 4>the players are like, we want day games on getaway days. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the athletics, the West Sacramento Athletics had the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, hey, we have to go east some days.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys like, we need to have different times for these

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<v Speaker 4>getaway days because let's say, okay, let's say they're going

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<v Speaker 4>even to Texas, it's two hour time. You lose. They

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<v Speaker 4>have a seven o'clock game. You're not taking off till midnight,

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<v Speaker 4>which is two am. That's a three to four hour flight.

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<v Speaker 4>You're getting in at six, seven in the morning. Even

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<v Speaker 4>with an off day, that off day is a waste

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<v Speaker 4>because you're so tired, right, and then then you have

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<v Speaker 4>to catch up for that whole off day. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>get to enjoy the off day. Whereas if you get

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<v Speaker 4>in at like two in the morning, Okay, you can

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<v Speaker 4>live with two in the morning versus six or seven

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And it'll be year two. They're used to Sacramento. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're doing great on the attendance front right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the team's not playing well. They certainly have.

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<v Speaker 4>Nine thousand, isn't it nine thousand city? What the attendance, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the lowest one. It's like nine thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't right because it's a small park.

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<v Speaker 4>But it doesn't pretty well with pre sale.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's supposed to hold. I think in that

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<v Speaker 1>range pre sale did well. But again, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>whole paid versus who's actually going right if you're a locat.

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<v Speaker 4>The Rays though, have a bigger attendance with a smaller park.

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<v Speaker 4>They have more people at the raise games per game

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<v Speaker 4>in the in the Sacramento is bigger than Steinbrenner. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's Remember they were like, oh, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>sell out every single game in Sacramento. The fans are

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<v Speaker 4>so excited and for about a week, and the Cubs

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<v Speaker 4>came there in the first week and yeah, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>And then all of a sudden it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Gone exactly, Oh we have the John Fisher clip. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we run that right now? John Fisher was at the

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<v Speaker 1>game the If you don't know the backstory, you might

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad, but you know he's sitting in first row

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's walking through the crowd and nobody's stupid

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<v Speaker 1>out there. They all know the situation. To me, that

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<v Speaker 1>clip is the definition of why I get confused about

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<v Speaker 1>why it's worth it to own a team. I get

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<v Speaker 1>that you're super rich and you're making a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money off of it, but like, but they're making a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money off other things, Like this is the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that he can do. There's other things that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do where you don't have to just be

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<v Speaker 1>like a public villain. Guy can't show face in public

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<v Speaker 1>without getting a boot at.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an ego thing. By the way, that's the same

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<v Speaker 4>reaction Tom Brady got today at Fox. I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a complete opposite reaction of what Tom Brady got.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, the uh, it's an ego thing, Scott, don't

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<v Speaker 4>you it's an asset, it's a check. Look, I'm one

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<v Speaker 4>of thirty in the world that owns a baseball team.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a big bragging right, Like, if I own a

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<v Speaker 4>baseball team, I'd work this says I own a baseball

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<v Speaker 4>team and you don't. It'd be pretty awesome because there's

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<v Speaker 4>thirty people that really own a baseball team. I know

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<v Speaker 4>there's minority owners in this and net. But there's thirty

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<v Speaker 4>heads of baseball teams out there in the world, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's a pretty big flex if you have one.

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<v Speaker 1>A j let's just put you in his exact spot,

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<v Speaker 1>though I'm putting you in his body. Would you enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the job when you are in public

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<v Speaker 1>at any point in time?

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<v Speaker 4>You're just getting But I wouldn't run it like that,

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<v Speaker 4>But I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you wouldn't. I know you wouldn't. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying different.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't choose, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Not if you choose to run it like a villain.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you really enjoy walking around like you're getting?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably just have guys that deal with this, right, it's nutting.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a full lad inside. He's got the middle finger

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<v Speaker 4>up going, I'm making a billion dollars or whatever. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>about to make two billion dollars. Boom me all you want? People?

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<v Speaker 4>What was the who was the player not long ago?

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<v Speaker 4>That's like, I don't care. I'm rich. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>whatever baseball player said. I don't care. I'm rich. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't care what they people, boom you or not. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>still richer than all these people. In John Fisher's mind,

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<v Speaker 4>he's thinking, like, I'm richer than all y'all. I could

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<v Speaker 4>buy every one of y'all. Like, I don't care, boom

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<v Speaker 4>me if that's a you think. But I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do what's best for me and my family and to

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<v Speaker 4>make more money. Give me more money.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was Jazz. By the way, when people

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<v Speaker 1>were getting on him about the derby, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, I know it was somebody. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 4>it was Jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Kratz, you got something before we head out here.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm just being a hopeless romantic, like why why

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<v Speaker 1>do you enjoy this? My thing is, if you're him,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, shouldn't you be in the suite or something.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a man of the people.

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<v Speaker 3>He's trying to be He's trying to be a man

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<v Speaker 3>of the people. But uh, kind of like the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like the groundbreaking ceremony they had in Vegas, just

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<v Speaker 3>it's fake. It's fake, and it's not if you are

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<v Speaker 3>a genuine owner. You're going to have ups and downs.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna get booed, you're gonna get cheered. At least

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<v Speaker 3>you know at the end of the day, you gave

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<v Speaker 3>it everything. You had when you own the team and

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't work out. I don't think he can say that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll be honest, I don't think he really cares.

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<v Speaker 3>But we would have to ask him. Ah, he doesn't talk,

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<v Speaker 3>so we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct. Most walk around like, yeah, if you're John Middleton,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a freaking rock star in Philly. You know, Steve Cohen,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the team's not playing well, he's all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place and people take pictures with him and it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are many others, right, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the five are good. Yeah, there are a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>are great. But if you're one of the five villains,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always watching them in public when they walk around

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<v Speaker 1>and these videos go viral and I'm like, does he know?

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<v Speaker 1>Does he know? Like does he read anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 4>I have a buddy that's a you know, he has

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<v Speaker 4>a share in the Green Bay Packers because you can

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<v Speaker 4>buy shares in the Green Bay Packers and he's a

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<v Speaker 4>Packer fan. He walks around like that and he owns

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<v Speaker 4>a share of the Packers. So, Jason, just because you

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<v Speaker 4>own a share of the seven bazillion shares doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 4>you can walk around like like John Fisher does.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not a villain. That's the difference.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but he thinks walking around like a villain, nobody thinks, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's fine. You want to walk around huffing and

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<v Speaker 1>puffing and proud that you own a team, that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you are one of the few villains in

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<v Speaker 1>the sport, I just think it's a tough look. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's his life.