1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: ESPN reporter Alden Gonzalez joining us right now in foul territory. Alden, 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: great to see you. I always look forward to your 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: informative tweets and coverage at night on the West Coast, 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: mostly in Insomniac. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: So this is. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Prime time for you right now. You've got the Dodgers fallen, 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: You've got the Padres rising, and these two teams are 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: meeting up this weekend. Yeah, exactly, exactly. If people can 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: see what AJ's doing right now for the podcast listeners 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: later on, there's a little bit of a choke symbol, Alden. 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: What are you seeing on the day to day right now? 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: And let's start with the Dodgers, right you'd like to 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: start with the panic mode and how they've really fallen 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: apart to let the Padres jump back into this spot. 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: What do you think I mean, it's a prolonged stretch 16 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: of bad for them. I mean you look at July third, 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: they had a nine game lead in the NL West. 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: Since then, they are twelve and twenty two. Do you 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: know who has a twelve and twenty two records since 20 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 2: July fourth? Along with the Dodgers, It's the Colorado Rockies. 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: That's how the Dodgers been playing, and I think the 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: biggest thing right now, and it stood out in this series, 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: especially the last two nights. On any given night, Dave 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Roberts doesn't really have a high leverage reliever to turn 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: to to hold leads. Blake China hasn't looked right since 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: coming back off the IL, and there are six high 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: leverage guys on the injured list right now, and the 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: last one was Brought Stewart, the one guy that they 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: got for their bullpen. He's out now with shoulder inflammation. 30 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: And obviously the natural question is why didn't the Dodgers 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: go do more. They were in on another high leverage guys. 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: They weren't willing to give up their best prospects to 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: get them, and that was with the thought that they 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: were going to get a bunch of guys back, and 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: they are Kirby Yates, Michael Kopek, Tanner Scott. Those guys 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: should be back before the end of the month. The 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: problem is that there's urgency right now and over these 38 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: next few weeks, nobody has any idea who's going to 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: be closing games for the Dodgers, let alone bridging the 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: gap to the ninth inning in the seventh and eighth. 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: And when you couple that with an offense that has 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: been better lately but still not as good as it 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: should be, what you get is this and it's a 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: club that hasn't really spiled like this in years, and 45 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: it's it's it's pretty insane to watch on a nightly basis. 46 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: I'll be honest, they don't have a closer, like you said, 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: but there was a ton of closers available at the 48 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: trade deadline. 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: Have you heard anything that the. 50 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: Dodgers were getting asked higher prices because everybody sees the 51 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: Dodgers as well, we want to win the World Series. 52 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: If they're calling about our closer, we're gonna ask more. 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: We're gonna do that. Like, is there is there any 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: of that? Or was it the Dodgers lack of willingness 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: to say, well, we need help when reality was they've 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: been drowning and they needed help at the trade deadline? 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: I think I think it's more of the latter. I 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: think when you're a team that's trading away these these 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: big time relievers, like your focus is just to get 60 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: the best return as pops And I think the interesting 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: thing about the Dodgers basically, every trade deadline is when 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: you match up their farm system and the guys that 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: they can give up. Because of the talent they have 64 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: on the major league level compared to all the other teams, 65 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: they could beat out practically anybody at the trade deadline. 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: The question always comes down to their willingness. And you know, 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: their front office is constant. They talk about this a lot. 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: They're constantly and they're no different, but they're constantly weighing 69 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: the now versus the latter, and it's a calibration that 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: they have yet to fully figure out. And so you 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: saw what they did this offseason. They were as aggressive 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: as anybody that was largely and they said this often 73 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: because they didn't want to have to go out and 74 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: buy at the trade deadline. But the other part of it, too, 75 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: is what they did this offseason to spend money. They 76 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: have money, they'll spend money. What they're not willing to 77 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: do as much is give up young players for players 78 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: that they feel are only going to give them maybe 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: like a very minuscule advantage for the stretch run of 80 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: the season. Now, you could definitely argue that and it 81 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: will be very valid. I'm just telling you that that's 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: kind of their calculus this time of year, and so 83 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: when they looked ahead, their thought was, Okay, it looks 84 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: bleak now, but look at who we have coming back. 85 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: We're gonna have Kopek and Yates and Tenor Scott and 86 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: you know, and we'll just get brock Stewart. He's been 87 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: great against right handed posing right handed hitters. He could 88 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: fit in nicely, and that's great in theory. But I 89 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: think when you look at it now, it's not only 90 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: about how are they covering these next few weeks, but 91 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: it's also a lot is going to have to go 92 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: right for all these relievers coming back in order for 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: them to show up as the strength that the front 94 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: office thinks they will be. Yeates and Scott haven't been 95 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: good all year. Michael Kopek has made eight appearances this season. 96 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm not saying those guys aren't going to be good. 97 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm just saying they can't afford any more hiccups. 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Because remember this offseason everyone was saying, oh, 123 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 4: the Dodgers are unbeatable, they'll never lose, They're gonna win everything. 124 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: They're gonna do this, They're gonna do that, Like just 125 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: be are the injuries that bad that they can't cover them? 126 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: Because people said, oh, they have ten starting pitchers and 127 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: they have twenty five relievers? What happened to all that? Yes, 128 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: I know, injuries, but the narrative has changed so quickly 129 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: from the greatest team ever assembled to holy crap, this 130 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: team's not in first place. 131 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: AJ. That's the beauty of baseball, isn't it that? You know? 132 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: I thought every expert said, oh, it's so bad for baseball. 133 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 4: Every fan that Dodgers are like, see, you just never know? 134 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: And ah, I think, and you could definitely speak to this, 135 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: But I also think outside of just what baseball is, 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: there's a reason why there hasn't been a repeat champion 137 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball in twenty five years. And it's 138 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: not just the randomization of adding extra playoff rounds, which 139 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: might be real too, but it's not. When you're playing 140 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: deep into October and sometimes November, there's a price to 141 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: be paid. There's a price to be paid, especially with 142 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: your pitching. And when you look at just when you 143 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: take a step back from this season, look at the 144 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: injuries that they've suffered in their bullpen, a bullpen that 145 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: they rode really hard last October to win a championship. 146 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: I think a lot of that has shown up. It's 147 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: not the only reason why they are where they are 148 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: right now. I mean, you look at Freddie Freeman slump 149 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: for a while, Mookie Betts is not having the year 150 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: that you would expect to Oscar Hernandez, Tommy Edmund. They 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: just haven't been right. That's certainly part of it. The 152 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: rotation early on was very injured. It is now healthy, 153 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: but it was very injured early on in the year. 154 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: That taxed the bullpen even more so. But I mean, 155 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: talk to the members of the twenty twenty three Rangers 156 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: and how winning the World Series spilled over into twenty 157 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: twenty four. Talk to members of the current Dodgers about 158 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: just the toll on the body, not just playing deep 159 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: into October last year but then opening up remember mid 160 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: March in Japan. I think that has a lot to 161 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: do with it as well. And it's just it's hard, 162 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: and I will I didn't think they were gonna go 163 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two and oh obviously, and I 164 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: didn't I didn't even think that they might. I thought, 165 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: maybe they'll have a chance at setting the regular season 166 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: wins record, but I knew that was unlikely. I thought 167 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: they were as well set up to be a repeat 168 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: champion as maybe anybody this century because of how they 169 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: fortified that roster in the offseason. But it just goes 170 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: to show how difficult winning back to back champions is 171 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: championships mean. 172 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 4: To follow up on this, we talk about this with 173 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: the Mets a lot. Their starters don't go deep, and 174 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: the Dodgers for years have not allowed their starters to 175 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: go deep into games, especially in the postseason. And then 176 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: the bullpen just slowly but surely gets worn down, worn down, 177 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: worn down, And that's kind of what you're talking about, 178 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: a lot of starting injuries, so they don't trust guys 179 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 4: to go as deep, right, then the bullpen gets used, 180 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: then you get the bullpen injuries. Is this just a 181 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: combination of the philosophy of what the Dodgers have been 182 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 4: for years and years and now it's this is the 183 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: year it's finally really kind of catching them. 184 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: I think that's certainly a valid point, Aja, and I 185 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: would say that that is an industry wide issue where 186 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: starters are not going deep. Bullpens are being taxed, and 187 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure the Dodgers are guilty of that as well. 188 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: What they will tell you as a counter is that 189 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: they feel like every year they're going to be writing 190 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: their starters in October and they got to save them 191 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: for that. I mean, look, yoshinob Yamamoto, I think is 192 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: a good example. He's made every turn through the rotation, 193 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: but his innings are very manageable, partly because he's part 194 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: of a six man rotation most of the time. Partly 195 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: because to your point, AJ, he doesn't go super deep 196 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: in the games because they want him healthy for the 197 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: stretch run. I think that's part of it. But I'll 198 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: go back to what I said before. I think the 199 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: bigger part of why that bullpen was taxed is because 200 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: they were just really hurt. I mean, the Dodgers got 201 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: to a point early in the year up until like July, 202 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: they were staging bullpen games twice a week and they 203 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: were also suffering injuries to their bullpen, a bullpen that, 204 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: as I said, had been taxed on October. It's just 205 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: not sustainable and Dodgers I haven't checked recently, but I'm 206 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 2: almost certain I'm correct that Dodgers' relievers lead the major 207 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: leagues and innings. They've led the major leagues in innings 208 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: basically all year. And yes, that could be a function 209 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 2: of where the game is going with the usage of 210 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: starting pitching. But I think it's more pronounced for them 211 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: that they've just had a lot of pitching injuries. And 212 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: by the way, it's a second consecutive year in which 213 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: they've had a lot of pitching injurers. 214 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: I got one more Dodgers que for you. Is there 215 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: a team that needs to have the wild card by 216 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: like miss the wildcard round more than the Dodgers, a 217 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: team that they've been mitigating injuries. You've even talked about 218 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: Yamamoto like a you know, another extra round does not 219 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: set the Dodgers up very well, so they almost have 220 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: to win the division. 221 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: No, I think I think you're right about that, Eric, 222 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: And I think the thing about the Dodgers that we've 223 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: seen this in recent years as and maybe that's not 224 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: the case this year because they might be a little 225 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: bit more flawed, But the Dodgers annually are deeper than 226 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: any team in baseball, right, Like from a when you 227 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: look at the totality of like a forty man roster 228 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: a twenty six men roster. They have the most depth. 229 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: And so the thought with the Dodgers has been, if 230 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: you're going to beat them, you got to beat them 231 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: in smaller sample sizes. Right, look at what the Diamondbacks 232 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: and the Padres did in back to back years in 233 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: the division series. If it's in the wildcard round, probably 234 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: even better. When you stretch to a seven game series 235 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: against them, usually their depth can really show up and 236 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: they can get the better of you. I mean, we 237 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: saw that during the twenty twenty COVID playoffs, right when 238 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: there were no days off, like that was an advantage 239 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: for them because they were deeper than the teams that 240 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 2: they faced. And there was a huge narrative about the 241 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: Dodgers when they lost those back to back division series 242 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: and Diningbacks and Padres that like, maybe they just need 243 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: to play the wildcard round. And the thought with them 244 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: was always no, no, no, we'd rather have the days off. 245 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: We would rather set our pitching staff. I know it 246 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: hasn't gone well, but we would much rather prefer to 247 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: get to buy And that's why, honestly, that's why I 248 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: like this playoff format, like, there's a real incentive to 249 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: get one of those top two seeds in each league 250 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: because team see it as an advantage, and I think 251 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 2: the Dodgers are foremost among them. 252 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: And then we have the Padres. We only got a 253 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: minute left here, but take everything that you just said 254 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: and then reverse it, right, Hey, the Dodgers need a closer. 255 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: The Padres have five of them. 256 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny because the Dodger strength is 257 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: in their rotation. I think it's a legitimate strength too. 258 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: I mean, when you go into a playoff series and 259 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: you could run out Yamamodal smell Glass now and Otani 260 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: with Kershaw also there, that's huge. And the Padres strength 261 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: is in their bullpen's it's five guys maybe six that 262 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: could they could cut games in half in the playoffs. 263 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: And that's been their formula the last two years with 264 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: aj Preller right. Last year he went out and got 265 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Teter Scott and Jason Adam to a bullpen that did 266 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: need reinforcing, and he sees that as a clear pathway 267 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: to win a World Series. But so when you look 268 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: at last year with the Padres, they didn't really round 269 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: into form until the last two months of the season, 270 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: and it was right after the trade deadline. Aj Preller 271 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: sort of completed that roster and they became one of 272 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: the deepest, most menacing teams in the sport. And that's 273 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: what they are right now. U Darbage coming back and 274 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: being effective is huge for them. Michael King rejoining their rotation, 275 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: even though his return was spotty, huge for them right 276 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: Like the fact that they could run. They have four 277 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: guys that to go run in the playoffs. But you 278 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: couple it with that bullpen and a lineup that now, 279 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: at least in my view, looks as deep as it 280 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: did last year with ready for Me and Ramon Loreano 281 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: and Ryan O'Hearn. Like that's that team is as good 282 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: as last year's team. And I thought last year's team 283 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: was the best team in baseball going in the playoffs. 284 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, they finished basically one win short. They would 285 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: have dusted the Yankees in the World Series. Almost everybody 286 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: thinks that Alden, you're the man. Thank you for joining. 287 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: He's got to go, He's got another show. 288 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: Did the Dodgers or Padres win the West? One word answer, 289 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 4: Dodgers or Padres win the West? 290 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: At this point, I'm going Padres. 291 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: Wow later the won one game lead. We have a 292 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: little breaking news on Hello Fresh. We've talked about him 293 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: for a long time, but this summer they have their 294 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: biggest menu upgrade yet. Ready for this, Todd Father talked 295 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: to me. They have doubled their menu doubled. 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In twenty twenty six, they had a record 316 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: number of night games on their schedule for this year. 317 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: That's to avoid the heatly any games in the three 318 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: months where it's supposed to be the hottest right June, July, 319 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: and August taking place during the day. Manager Mark Kotze 320 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: was outspoken about this and how it definitely affects rest, recovery, 321 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: family time, et cetera, which is precious in the sport. 322 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: And it has been much cooler this summer than last 323 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: year Sacramento. Last year was blazing and everyone was concerned 324 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: about how that would play out, including the league and 325 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: the team. Now, temperatures have not been as crazy as anticipated, 326 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: and that has led to them thinking, you know what, 327 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: maybe we can sneak in some more day games next year. 328 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: Good idea, aj or bad idea. 329 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: Now next year we'll go back to the way it 330 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: was the year before, right, because just seems like they're 331 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: with the A's, that's what happens. They make these moves 332 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 4: and then whatever can go wrong has gone wrong, which sucks, 333 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: But I mean, I was a big I mean there's 334 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: a day game, night game, if it's a day game 335 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: and you can fly somewhere and get they're quicker, I'm 336 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: all for it. If it's a night game, I'd rather 337 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 4: just play the night game because your body gets used 338 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: to the night games and during the season, so just 339 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: stick with the night games. But if it helps them 340 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 4: travel wise, I'm all for it. But the weather, you 341 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 4: can't control. The weather, you can't control. I thought global 342 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 4: warming and everything was it was supposed to be one hundred 343 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: and seventy two degrees every day in Sacramento. But I 344 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 4: don't know. Man, it's that was a joke, by the way, 345 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: so everyone, uh but yeah, I mean, I don't know. 346 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 4: You can't control the weather. You never know. It could 347 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: be whatever. I don't know, just do what everything is best. 348 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm scratching my head because I'm confused by this. But whatever, 349 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: I don't know about this. 350 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: I've never I've never heard anybody go, man, we want 351 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 3: more day games. Yeah, it's nice to have a meal 352 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 3: with your family at night, but it's something that during 353 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: the season you enjoy. For me, I enjoyed having breakfast 354 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: in lunch with my family during spring training. I enjoyed 355 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 3: having dinners with my family, And you never get breakfast. 356 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 3: So it's like one of those things just to have 357 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 3: like a night out, to have a day game and 358 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: a chance of one hundred and ten degree heat, No thanks, 359 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: I'd rather have a night game unless it's getaway day. 360 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 3: Getaway day is nice, but no, I don't. 361 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: I don't. 362 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: I don't want to have to play in one hundred 363 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: and ten because you know it's gonna be there. 364 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah but wait, Kratz, let me throw that back at you. 365 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: This is the main concern. They want this for getaway 366 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: days because I guess they're playing later on getaway days. 367 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's. 368 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: The main concern here, is that they don't want to 369 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: play at night for getaway day. 370 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: And you can survive one day. I mean, let's come on, 371 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 4: you can survive it one day at homestand one day 372 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 4: home if. 373 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: It's one to twelve, if it's one hundred and twelve degrees, 374 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: it's okay. 375 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 4: Done. It played in Tucson. I played one hundred and 376 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: forty and Tucson we played every day. Dude, you ever 377 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 4: been to Tucson in august Son. 378 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: The only place that sucks that sucks more is White 379 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: Sox spring training because it's much hotter than when you 380 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: play at a Dodger spring training. Now in Arizona, it's 381 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: always hotter when you play the White Sox because nobody 382 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: in the stands and the yellow seats are like its 383 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: own sun. But seriously, you one hundred percent agree with AJ. 384 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: You can play in one hundred and ten degrees for 385 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 3: one day, especially since then you have the recovery of 386 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: essentially a day and a half to your next game, 387 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: and you're flying, so you have to. It is tough 388 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: getting into a city, especially going from the West coast 389 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 3: to the East coast. It's tough getting into a city 390 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: at seven in the morning. You can go through a 391 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 3: game and get into the city at one in the morning. 392 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 3: That's way better. 393 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a good idea for getaway day 394 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: to get games. 395 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: I never had to play getaway days most of the 396 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 4: time unless I really begged. 397 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: But not because but not because of the weather, like 398 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: the weather. It was brought up. It was brought up 399 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: because of the weather. They're like, oh, well, because it's 400 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: been cooler, we can play more day games. No, you 401 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: play more day games to get out of the city sooner. 402 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: In my opinion, not because we. 403 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 4: Had a whole conversation krats about this with the with 404 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 4: the Angels. Remember the Angels were playing all these night 405 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 4: games and having to travel east to play right, and 406 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 4: the players are like, we want day games on getaway days. Well, 407 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 4: maybe the athletics, the West Sacramento Athletics had the same thing. 408 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: We're like, hey, we have to go east some days. 409 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: Guys like, we need to have different times for these 410 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: getaway days because let's say, okay, let's say they're going 411 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 4: even to Texas, it's two hour time. You lose. They 412 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: have a seven o'clock game. You're not taking off till midnight, 413 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 4: which is two am. That's a three to four hour flight. 414 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: You're getting in at six, seven in the morning. Even 415 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: with an off day, that off day is a waste 416 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: because you're so tired, right, and then then you have 417 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 4: to catch up for that whole off day. You don't 418 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 4: get to enjoy the off day. Whereas if you get 419 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: in at like two in the morning, Okay, you can 420 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 4: live with two in the morning versus six or seven 421 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 4: in the morning. 422 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: And it'll be year two. They're used to Sacramento. I 423 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: don't think they're doing great on the attendance front right now. 424 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the team's not playing well. They certainly have. 425 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 4: Nine thousand, isn't it nine thousand city? What the attendance, Yeah, 426 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: it's the lowest one. It's like nine thousand. 427 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: Isn't right because it's a small park. 428 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: But it doesn't pretty well with pre sale. 429 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's supposed to hold. I think in that 430 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: range pre sale did well. But again, this is the 431 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: whole paid versus who's actually going right if you're a locat. 432 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: The Rays though, have a bigger attendance with a smaller park. 433 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: They have more people at the raise games per game 434 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 4: in the in the Sacramento is bigger than Steinbrenner. Oh yeah, 435 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: I think that's Remember they were like, oh, we're gonna 436 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: sell out every single game in Sacramento. The fans are 437 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: so excited and for about a week, and the Cubs 438 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: came there in the first week and yeah, it's cool. 439 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden it's. 440 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: Gone exactly, Oh we have the John Fisher clip. Can 441 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: we run that right now? John Fisher was at the 442 00:21:49,560 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: game the If you don't know the backstory, you might 443 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: feel bad, but you know he's sitting in first row 444 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: and then he's walking through the crowd and nobody's stupid 445 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: out there. They all know the situation. To me, that 446 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: clip is the definition of why I get confused about 447 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: why it's worth it to own a team. I get 448 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: that you're super rich and you're making a lot of 449 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: money off of it, but like, but they're making a 450 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: lot of money off other things, Like this is the 451 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: only thing that he can do. There's other things that 452 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: you can do where you don't have to just be 453 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: like a public villain. Guy can't show face in public 454 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: without getting a boot at. 455 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 4: It's an ego thing. By the way, that's the same 456 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 4: reaction Tom Brady got today at Fox. I'm just kidding. 457 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: There's a complete opposite reaction of what Tom Brady got. 458 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 4: But yeah, the uh, it's an ego thing, Scott, don't 459 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: you it's an asset, it's a check. Look, I'm one 460 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 4: of thirty in the world that owns a baseball team. 461 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: That's a big bragging right, Like, if I own a 462 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 4: baseball team, I'd work this says I own a baseball 463 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: team and you don't. It'd be pretty awesome because there's 464 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: thirty people that really own a baseball team. I know 465 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: there's minority owners in this and net. But there's thirty 466 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 4: heads of baseball teams out there in the world, and 467 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: it's a pretty big flex if you have one. 468 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: A j let's just put you in his exact spot, 469 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: though I'm putting you in his body. Would you enjoy 470 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: that part of the job when you are in public 471 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: at any point in time? 472 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 4: You're just getting But I wouldn't run it like that, 473 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 4: But I wouldn't. 474 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't. I know you wouldn't. But I'm 475 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: saying different. 476 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: I don't choose, of course. 477 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 1: Not if you choose to run it like a villain. 478 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: Do you really enjoy walking around like you're getting? 479 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: No? 480 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: Probably just have guys that deal with this, right, it's nutting. 481 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: It's a full lad inside. He's got the middle finger 482 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 4: up going, I'm making a billion dollars or whatever. I'm 483 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: about to make two billion dollars. Boom me all you want? People? 484 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: What was the who was the player not long ago? 485 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: That's like, I don't care. I'm rich. I don't know 486 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 4: whatever baseball player said. I don't care. I'm rich. I 487 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: don't care what they people, boom you or not. I'm 488 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 4: still richer than all these people. In John Fisher's mind, 489 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 4: he's thinking, like, I'm richer than all y'all. I could 490 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: buy every one of y'all. Like, I don't care, boom 491 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: me if that's a you think. But I'm trying to 492 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: do what's best for me and my family and to 493 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: make more money. Give me more money. 494 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: I think that was Jazz. By the way, when people 495 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: were getting on him about the derby, right, yeah. 496 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: He said, I know it was somebody. I don't remember 497 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 4: it was Jazz. 498 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: Anyway, Kratz, you got something before we head out here. 499 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: I know. 500 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just being a hopeless romantic, like why why 501 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: do you enjoy this? My thing is, if you're him, 502 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, shouldn't you be in the suite or something. 503 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: He's a man of the people. 504 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: He's trying to be He's trying to be a man 505 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: of the people. But uh, kind of like the kind 506 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: of like the groundbreaking ceremony they had in Vegas, just 507 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: it's fake. It's fake, and it's not if you are 508 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: a genuine owner. You're going to have ups and downs. 509 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 3: You're gonna get booed, you're gonna get cheered. At least 510 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: you know at the end of the day, you gave 511 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: it everything. You had when you own the team and 512 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: it didn't work out. I don't think he can say that, 513 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 3: and I'll be honest, I don't think he really cares. 514 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: But we would have to ask him. Ah, he doesn't talk, 515 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 3: so we don't know. 516 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: Correct. Most walk around like, yeah, if you're John Middleton, 517 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: you're a freaking rock star in Philly. You know, Steve Cohen, 518 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: even though the team's not playing well, he's all over 519 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: the place and people take pictures with him and it's cool. 520 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: And there are many others, right, there's a lot of 521 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: the five are good. Yeah, there are a lot that 522 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: are great. But if you're one of the five villains, 523 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm always watching them in public when they walk around 524 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: and these videos go viral and I'm like, does he know? 525 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: Does he know? Like does he read anything? 526 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: Hey? 527 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 4: I have a buddy that's a you know, he has 528 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 4: a share in the Green Bay Packers because you can 529 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 4: buy shares in the Green Bay Packers and he's a 530 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: Packer fan. He walks around like that and he owns 531 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 4: a share of the Packers. So, Jason, just because you 532 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: own a share of the seven bazillion shares doesn't mean 533 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: you can walk around like like John Fisher does. 534 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: But he's not a villain. That's the difference. 535 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 4: No, but he thinks walking around like a villain, nobody thinks, right. 536 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: Right, that's fine. You want to walk around huffing and 537 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: puffing and proud that you own a team, that's great. 538 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: But when you are one of the few villains in 539 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: the sport, I just think it's a tough look. But hey, 540 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: that's his life.