WEBVTT - Softbank's $100B Pledge

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<v Speaker 1>From the heart where innovation, money and power Collie in Silicon.

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<v Speaker 2>Valley, NBN. This is Bloomberg Technology with Caroline Hyde and

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<v Speaker 2>Ed Ludlow.

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<v Speaker 3>Live from New York. This is Bloomberg Technology coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Soft Bank CEO Masiyoshi's son set to announce plans to

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<v Speaker 4>invest one hundred billion dollars in the US during a

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<v Speaker 4>visit with President elect Donald Trump. We're bringing the news

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<v Speaker 4>plus Bitcoin rises to a record high. I'm in microstrategies

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<v Speaker 4>inclusion in the Nasdaq, and Apple's got plans for a

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<v Speaker 4>new foldable iPad and aims to bring it to market

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<v Speaker 4>by twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>A first we.

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<v Speaker 4>Check in on these markets which have a risk on

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<v Speaker 4>attitude to the day, as we anticipate key Fed decision

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<v Speaker 4>come Wednesday. Ahead of that, and as that one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>a new record high. We're up nine tenths of there,

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<v Speaker 4>and chip maker is managing to drive higher Micron broadcon.

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<v Speaker 4>But also we're seeing Bitcoin up three point four percent.

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<v Speaker 4>We are once again escalating to new levels. We dig

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<v Speaker 4>into the reasons why, but of course trumping one of

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<v Speaker 4>them the focus on the new administration, but also micro

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<v Speaker 4>strategy like to be added to the Nasdaq. And what

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<v Speaker 4>that means for its own purchases of bitcoin. We're up

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<v Speaker 4>at one hundred and six thousand dollars per token. But

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<v Speaker 4>the big breaking news of the day when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to technology is, of course, according to the people familiar

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<v Speaker 4>that SoftBank CEO mas Yoshi Son is set to announce

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<v Speaker 4>plans to invest a whopping one hundred billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 4>the United States over the next four years. It's all

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<v Speaker 4>according to sources, as we say, and this is as

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<v Speaker 4>he's planning to be meeting with President elect Trump today

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<v Speaker 4>and mar Lago. We're expecting Donald Trump to speak in

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<v Speaker 4>a few moments. Time for more, let's bring in Bloomberg's

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<v Speaker 4>Peter Elstrom and for while. Back in twenty sixteen, we

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<v Speaker 4>saw big promises made by Massa and this time he's

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<v Speaker 4>doubling them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you'd be forgiven if you thought this was deja vus.

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<v Speaker 5>It was eight years ago, in fact, eight years ago

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<v Speaker 5>December when masiosche Son went and met with Trump and

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<v Speaker 5>he talked about investing fifty billion dollars. Now he's doubling

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<v Speaker 5>that pledge. It's one hundred billion dollars that he's planning

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<v Speaker 5>to invest. According to our sources, and also he's planning

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<v Speaker 5>on creating and estimated one hundred thousand jobs in the

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<v Speaker 5>United States. So this is the first major investment that

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<v Speaker 5>we've seen after Trump's win. It's certainly a pledge towards

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<v Speaker 5>what Trump has been trying to do in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>reinvigorating the economy. For SoftBank, it's also a pretty big

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<v Speaker 5>push into the United States. Last time when they pledged

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<v Speaker 5>fifty billion dollars, MASA had just raised this vision fund.

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<v Speaker 5>He had plenty of capital. He put investments into companies

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<v Speaker 5>like we work in Door Dash and plenty of others.

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<v Speaker 5>But right now he doesn't have that kind of cash anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>He only has about twenty five billion dollars in cash

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<v Speaker 5>on the balance sheet, and yet he's doubling that pledge.

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<v Speaker 3>So we had some work to do here, had some work.

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<v Speaker 4>We're also wanting to know the finer details of where

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<v Speaker 4>exactly he allocates. He's been all in on AI saw

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<v Speaker 4>this curve coming before many others, of course as evidence

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<v Speaker 4>his arm holding's acquisition and then taking that to market.

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<v Speaker 4>But where else do you think he'll be investing in

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<v Speaker 4>the United States?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, more recently, including at SoftBank World this summer

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<v Speaker 5>He's talked a lot about artificial intelligence and how he

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<v Speaker 5>wants to invest even more and more kinds of companies.

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<v Speaker 5>So he is putting money into open Ai, in particular

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<v Speaker 5>to Pioneer of course behind chat GPT. He's put in

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<v Speaker 5>five hundred million so far, and he's right in the

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<v Speaker 5>process of a tender offer now where he's offering open

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<v Speaker 5>Ai investors the ability to sell him their share so

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<v Speaker 5>he can get another one point five billion dollars. But

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<v Speaker 5>his ambitions go far beyond that. He's talked about the

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<v Speaker 5>need to have more alternatives to in vidio chips in particular.

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<v Speaker 5>He knows that energy is a huge issue for AI

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<v Speaker 5>right now, so he wants to make investments there. He's

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<v Speaker 5>also been investing quite a bit in autonomous driving, so

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<v Speaker 5>he's a lot of ambitions. He always has a long

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<v Speaker 5>list of deals and investments that he wants to make,

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<v Speaker 5>so we're going to see where exactly he puts that money.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is a lot of money right now, and

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<v Speaker 5>again he doesn't have that cash on his balance sheet.

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<v Speaker 3>He has to be able to go out and get

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<v Speaker 3>that close.

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<v Speaker 4>Peter, that's from we thank you so much, bringing us

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<v Speaker 4>up to speed on the anticipated announcement. Now, let's keep

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<v Speaker 4>discussing trends in tech markets more broadly, what this influx

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<v Speaker 4>of money into AI really means for the US at

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<v Speaker 4>least densisms with US directoral quantitative market strategy. Over at Fidelity,

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<v Speaker 4>we love having you on because of the historical context

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<v Speaker 4>you can put today's investment advice. But I mean we

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<v Speaker 4>look at what's happening in the market. When you're thinking

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<v Speaker 4>of a juggernaut of one hundred billion dollars coming into

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<v Speaker 4>USAI and energy, where it feels.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a lot of money has already gone that direction.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Well, when you readbase it relative to sales or

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<v Speaker 6>relative to market cap, I mean you haven't really seen

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<v Speaker 6>that much of a move.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we talk about this all the time with.

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<v Speaker 6>Money funds on sitting on the sidelines, how much cash

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<v Speaker 6>is on the sidelines, or how much cash in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of nominal capacs.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you actually.

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<v Speaker 6>Renormalize it, given the move that we've seen in the

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<v Speaker 6>marketplace over the last five years, it's a much lower

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<v Speaker 6>percentage than you would think. Interestingly enough, specifically for tech stocks,

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<v Speaker 6>and I would say more specifically for software stocks, cap

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<v Speaker 6>BAX is very much an alpha fact, meaning that that

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<v Speaker 6>spending is usually a good thing for stocks because it's

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<v Speaker 6>very correlated to earnings growth.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so I'm not going to ask you is to

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<v Speaker 4>opine as to where exactly a Masayoshi Son is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be putting his investment. But if you're looking at

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<v Speaker 4>an every day, whether it's retail or it's chootion investor

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<v Speaker 4>right now allocating to opportunities, do you have to be

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<v Speaker 4>put off by some of the valuations right now or

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<v Speaker 4>actually do you keep chasing the momentum, keep chasing the

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<v Speaker 4>names that have.

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<v Speaker 3>Done well well.

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<v Speaker 6>It's interesting. So technology has had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 6>underperformance over the course of the last six months, and

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<v Speaker 6>because earnings growth and free cashulow has been so strong,

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<v Speaker 6>you're actually out of anomalist valuation situation. So I define

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<v Speaker 6>anomalist valuation as top quartile. So we have fallen out

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<v Speaker 6>of top quartile levels, which is where you see the

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<v Speaker 6>risk reward become fairly negative for tech. Now as we

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<v Speaker 6>enter twenty twenty five, coming out of that top quartile

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<v Speaker 6>valuation zone, I actually think it sets up for a

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<v Speaker 6>pretty positive risk reward. And for all the talk about

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<v Speaker 6>momentum stocks on our day, when you look at it

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<v Speaker 6>specifically within technology, I'm not seeing any anomalous behavior, meaning

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not seeing top quartile road to performance over the

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<v Speaker 6>last year, and I'm not seeing top quartile valuation on

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<v Speaker 6>that top quartile of momentum, meaning that because earnings in

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<v Speaker 6>free cash flow are so strong, there's no valuation situation

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<v Speaker 6>where you're saying you're overpaying on a consistent basis for

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<v Speaker 6>technology stocks that have been leaders in the S and

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<v Speaker 6>P five hundred Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So it still feels like there's basically opportunities in the

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<v Speaker 4>mag seven.

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<v Speaker 3>What about the next tay down?

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<v Speaker 4>We started to see software names really come to the

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<v Speaker 4>rise as people started to reallocate perhaps from the semiconductor

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<v Speaker 4>trade out to the Kila applications being born out.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that something that you'd like to see moral No, that's.

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<v Speaker 6>A great question and a great point because of the

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<v Speaker 6>three big areas within technology, if you say hardware, software,

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<v Speaker 6>or semis, where are the opportunities. It looks very interesting

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<v Speaker 6>on the data and software to me, given the strength

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<v Speaker 6>and free cash flow and earnings valuations, we're actually in

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<v Speaker 6>the bottom half of the distribution a valuation perspective when

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<v Speaker 6>you look at all the data back to nineteen sixty two.

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<v Speaker 6>And what you see is that very much empirically skews

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<v Speaker 6>your risk rewards on odds for the software sector specifically,

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<v Speaker 6>so when you have strong growth and valuation support, it's

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<v Speaker 6>a very positive risk reward for the sector. Of those three,

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<v Speaker 6>hardware software and Semis software is the only one of

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<v Speaker 6>those three industries that looks like that. So I think

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<v Speaker 6>as we enter twenty twenty five, that's where it looks

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<v Speaker 6>like the opportunities are to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the US todays, yes, in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>What of the US exceptionalism on this trade that we

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<v Speaker 4>all keep talking about, I mean, is it going to

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<v Speaker 4>dominate for twenty twenty five?

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<v Speaker 3>It looked to me it does look like that.

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<v Speaker 6>So everything outside the US, whether you want to talk

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<v Speaker 6>about EFA EM or AQUI X THEUS, what you find

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<v Speaker 6>is that valuation screen looks like a quantitative value trapped

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<v Speaker 6>to me, meaning that when you've bought in that bottom

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<v Speaker 6>quartile relative valuation on earnings are free cash flow, you

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<v Speaker 6>only have thirty percent odds about perform. It's like thirty

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<v Speaker 6>percent is not zero. But at the same time, it's

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<v Speaker 6>hard to say that that valuation is a critical driver

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<v Speaker 6>and the reason why it's not a driver is because

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<v Speaker 6>often international stocks are cheap for a reason. Even on

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<v Speaker 6>a sector neutral basis, taking out technology medium stock to

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<v Speaker 6>median stock, the S and P five hundred outgrows their

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<v Speaker 6>international peers by about three to four hundred basis points

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<v Speaker 6>a year on earnings, and it's growing every cycle. So

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<v Speaker 6>unless you think something is going to change, that hasn't

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<v Speaker 6>been the case over the last fifteen years. I think

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<v Speaker 6>the risk reward is still more favorable.

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<v Speaker 3>In the US. This is why your historical context so important. Dennis.

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<v Speaker 3>I go therefore to the macro picture.

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<v Speaker 4>We are, of course seeing the micro news on an

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<v Speaker 4>investment coming from Massa, but we're also seeing the macro

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<v Speaker 4>news of we're waiting on rates to go down. What

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<v Speaker 4>does that mean for that cash on the sidelines that

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<v Speaker 4>still perhaps is waiting to enter.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so rates, let's talk about rates being an alpha

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<v Speaker 6>factor for the market. I think people get a little

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<v Speaker 6>confused in terms of thinking about whether or not the

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<v Speaker 6>playbook is a good thing or a bad thing, saying

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<v Speaker 6>rates are not the critical driver. Earnings growth is the

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<v Speaker 6>critical driver. So when you look at the FED from

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<v Speaker 6>a playbook perspective, sometimes the fed's cutting because they have to.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not good for the market. Sometimes the Fed's cutting

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<v Speaker 6>because they can. And what you see from a quantitative

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<v Speaker 6>differential from those like trying to divide those two is

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<v Speaker 6>your starting point on earnings growth matters a lot. Our

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<v Speaker 6>starting point of positive earnings growth usually predicts a more

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<v Speaker 6>bullish situation for.

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<v Speaker 3>The s and P.

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<v Speaker 6>Five hundred. You're starting level of the Federal Reserve matters

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<v Speaker 6>a lot as well, because that's essentially a mathematical definition

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<v Speaker 6>of the FED put meaning if the FED is high

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<v Speaker 6>relative to inflation, they can do something to the extent

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<v Speaker 6>that the economy is hit with a shock. That's a

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<v Speaker 6>good thing. That's our situation as we enter twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 6>And most importantly, the FED can definitively change willingness to

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<v Speaker 6>lend of banks because that's been in contractionary territory and

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<v Speaker 6>because that's likely improving earnings growth is likely to broaden

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<v Speaker 6>out in twenty twenty five, include those small businesses and lagging,

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<v Speaker 6>and that skews your risk reward being pretty positive as

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<v Speaker 6>we under twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>But then, how risk hungry did the edges of the

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<v Speaker 4>market become. I mean, we look at a day where

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<v Speaker 4>micro strategy, which has basically been a leverage bet on

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<v Speaker 4>bitcoin hugely outperformed Bitcoin in and of itself, is not

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<v Speaker 4>going to be added to the NASDAC. I mean, are

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<v Speaker 4>we going to see more money flow to those sorts

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<v Speaker 4>of risky ridges.

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<v Speaker 6>Now that's a great question. So I mean, without the

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<v Speaker 6>talking about the idiosyncratic names. When I look at quality,

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<v Speaker 6>which is sort of the opposite of the factor that

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<v Speaker 6>you're talking about, it's been a darling of a factor,

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<v Speaker 6>much like Lovall was only underperforming I think three in

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<v Speaker 6>the last twenty years. Well, that's left quality stocks fairly expensive.

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<v Speaker 6>And that doesn't necessarily mean those high quality stocks need

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<v Speaker 6>to underperform by a lot, but to the extent relative

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<v Speaker 6>earnings or those relative returns start to inflect lower, that

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<v Speaker 6>usually does lead to underperformance in the factor. So for

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<v Speaker 6>anybody with a quality bias, I think about scrubbing your

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<v Speaker 6>portfoli oh yea and thinking about better risk rewards in

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<v Speaker 6>what have been historically risky your names.

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<v Speaker 3>Tenny's unbeatable, thanks for coming on. Tiny's s tism Happy.

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<v Speaker 4>Holiday's director of quantitive market strategy at Fidelity. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to focus a bit more on Bitcoin and MicroStrategy.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, crypto bitcoin himself.

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<v Speaker 4>And a new record high throughout the weekend and now

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<v Speaker 4>longest weekly winning runs is twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Will dig in.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, we're going to be focusing on later in the

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<v Speaker 4>show a bit more about Vivendi.

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<v Speaker 3>But look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's currently don't look at Vivendi stock today because it's

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<v Speaker 4>currently distributing itself up and is breaking itself into three

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<v Speaker 4>different companies. But what I want you to focus on

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<v Speaker 4>is what CBC is up to at the moment, exploring

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<v Speaker 4>a potential purchase of a Vendi's Telecom Italia stake. This

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<v Speaker 4>is as we know that Vincenbalaure, the billionaire in charge

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<v Speaker 4>of Vivendi, is trying to make his assets work for him.

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<v Speaker 4>This is broomeg Technology and we are expecting President elect

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<v Speaker 4>Trump to speak live from our alago in a few

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<v Speaker 4>moments time. All eyes on that reported one hundred billion

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<v Speaker 4>dollar investment coming from Masayoshi's son into the United States

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<v Speaker 4>and one hundred thousand jobs to be created too.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll bring you that as and when.

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<v Speaker 4>It occurs, but for now, let's just focus on another

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<v Speaker 4>area that Trump has helped rally, and that is Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 4>rising to a record high, large part because of the

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<v Speaker 4>next administration supported digital assets, but also there's this optimism

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<v Speaker 4>about the upcoming inclusion of micro Strategy in the NAZAK

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and what that means for future purposes and

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<v Speaker 4>purchases Isabelle Lee is here with more and mstr gets

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<v Speaker 4>into and as that one hundred, it means technically that

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<v Speaker 4>more funds will have to allocate to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It really is a big deal. It's really it.

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<v Speaker 7>Represents kind of like this institutional acceptance of bitcoin, which

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<v Speaker 7>is interesting because micro Strategy, and it's called founder Michael

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<v Speaker 7>Salor has long been ridiculed by Wall Street a specialist

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<v Speaker 7>since they started just in bitcoin in twenty twenty and

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<v Speaker 7>today again for the six straight Monday, they bought one

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<v Speaker 7>point five billion worth. Their total cache is forty five billion.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's really that the stock has rallied five hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 7>But you're right around four hundred fifty one billion dollars

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<v Speaker 7>worth of ets track the NASTAC one hundred, so they

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<v Speaker 7>will all have to rebalance, ISABALLEI.

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<v Speaker 3>We thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll have to cut it short there because we do

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<v Speaker 4>understand that President ect Donald Trump is now starting his

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<v Speaker 4>press conference in mar Logo.

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<v Speaker 3>We're listening.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll discuss a couple of points. We'll take some questions

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<v Speaker 8>later if you'd like. I'm sure you might have one

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<v Speaker 8>or two. I'd be shocked if you didn't, I'd be

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<v Speaker 8>very impressed. But I'm honored to welcome one of the

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<v Speaker 8>most accomplished business leaders of our time, the founder and

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<v Speaker 8>CEO of soft Bank. Everybody knows Masa Yoshi San. Masa

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<v Speaker 8>runs one of the largest companies in Japan and among

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<v Speaker 8>the most successful investment and technology companies anywhere in the world,

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<v Speaker 8>one of the most successful investors in the world. And

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<v Speaker 8>we've just included a very productive meeting, and today I'm

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<v Speaker 8>thrilled to announce that SoftBank will be investing one hundred

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<v Speaker 8>billion dollars in America, creating one hundred thousand American jobs

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<v Speaker 8>at a minimum. And he's doing this because he feels

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<v Speaker 8>very optimistic about our country since the election, and many

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<v Speaker 8>other people are also coming in with tremendous amounts of money.

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<v Speaker 2>You probably noticed that the poll was just taken.

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<v Speaker 8>Its business is literally in thirty nine years, has been

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<v Speaker 8>nothing like it. It's been the biggest increased small business

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<v Speaker 8>owners gave it a forty one percent jump.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the biggest jump that we've.

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<v Speaker 8>Had in thirty nine years, and nobody's ever seen anything

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<v Speaker 8>like it, and it's just they're very optimistic. This historic

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<v Speaker 8>investment is a monumental demonstration and confidence in America's future,

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<v Speaker 8>and it will help ensure that artificial intelligence, emerging technologies,

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<v Speaker 8>and other industries of tomorrow are built, created and grown

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<v Speaker 8>right here in the USA.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the beautiful things about Massa is he's.

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<v Speaker 8>Very much involved with emerging technology, probably knows it may

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<v Speaker 8>be better than almost anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a great honor.

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<v Speaker 8>And some of you remember after the twenty sixteen election,

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<v Speaker 8>also SoftBank committed to invest fifty billion dollars in our country,

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<v Speaker 8>and they did in a very place to say that

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<v Speaker 8>they kept that promise.

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<v Speaker 2>In every way, shape and form.

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<v Speaker 8>And now they're looking to do one hundred and I've

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<v Speaker 8>looked at their books. They do have the possibility of

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<v Speaker 8>doing more. I'm going to ask them to do a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit more. But first I'm going to ask him.

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<v Speaker 2>To speak, and just to say a few words. Massa. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you, please.

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<v Speaker 8>You think, thank you very much, appreciate it, thank you, Helm.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. I'm very, very excited.

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<v Speaker 9>I would really like to celebrate the great victory President Trump.

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<v Speaker 9>And my confidence level to the economy of the United

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<v Speaker 9>States has tremendously increased with his victory. So because of that,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm now excited to commit this one hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 9>and one hundred thousand jobs into the United States. This

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<v Speaker 9>is double of last time, as President Trump said, because

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<v Speaker 9>I say, oh, President Trump is a double down present,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm gonna have to double down, you know, one hundred

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<v Speaker 9>billion dollars and one hundred thousand jobs. This is you know,

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<v Speaker 9>my confidence level because that has doubled down. So I

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<v Speaker 9>am truly excited to make this happen. And of course

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<v Speaker 9>business is important, technology is important. But one more thing

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<v Speaker 9>I'm really hoping is that this President Trump would make

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<v Speaker 9>the world, bring the world into peace again. That's my

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<v Speaker 9>additional hope and and I think he will actually make

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<v Speaker 9>it happen. So anyway, I'm excited to go. And we

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<v Speaker 9>were discussing and President Trump said, Marsa, you know, double doll.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not enough. Maybe you know, go for more. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm going to ask him right now. Would you make

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<v Speaker 8>it two hundred million dollars he can, would you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my promise is hungry. But you know he's now

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<v Speaker 2>asking to do more.

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<v Speaker 9>I think you know with your leadership, my pop messive

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<v Speaker 9>is you is your support.

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<v Speaker 2>I will, I will try to make it happen. That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Five two hundred kill make it two hundred. Sh He

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<v Speaker 2>is a great nego say that he's a brilliant guy

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<v Speaker 2>and an unbelievable job.

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<v Speaker 8>And the people of Japan and all over the world

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<v Speaker 8>are very proud of and a uh tremendous respect for

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<v Speaker 8>himself what he does, what he just did, and and

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<v Speaker 8>I would be surprised if if what didn't go to

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<v Speaker 8>do And when you say you'll try, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you'll do it. I will. I will really

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<v Speaker 2>try it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And and I need your support though you'll have

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<v Speaker 9>my support alright, we have our country support all fantastic,

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, my sport, fantastic, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are saying legend the people of Japan who were all.

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<v Speaker 9>Watching, well, uh, I'm sure uh our people in Japan

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<v Speaker 9>uh proud to uh make the pop muss of US

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<v Speaker 9>and Japan be stronger. And I'm very excited to make

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<v Speaker 9>this happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Thank you, thank you, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. That's a good job.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a great gentleman at a great leader and a

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<v Speaker 8>great investor.

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<v Speaker 2>So to have that offerm it.

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<v Speaker 8>And we have so many companies coming in now where

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<v Speaker 8>that will be announcing or they will announce themselves. We'll

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<v Speaker 8>not have to be with them to do it, but

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<v Speaker 8>they'll be announcing. And as I said, small business optimism

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<v Speaker 8>took a forty one points jump forty one points.

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<v Speaker 2>It went up forty one points.

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<v Speaker 8>That's unheard of, and that's the biggest they think in

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<v Speaker 8>recorded history.

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<v Speaker 2>But they know at least a minimum of thirty nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's great.

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<v Speaker 8>But on behalf of the American people, I want to

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<v Speaker 8>thank Massa for his faith and what's happening with our

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<v Speaker 8>country and what's happening with the world. There's a whole

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<v Speaker 8>light over the entire world. Many people, some reporters, and

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<v Speaker 8>speaking to them, they said, you know, it actually is true.

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<v Speaker 8>A couple of them are not necessarily friends of mine,

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<v Speaker 8>but they said, it is actually true that there's a

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<v Speaker 8>light shining over the world. We're trying to help very

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<v Speaker 8>strongly and getting the hostages back as you know, with

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<v Speaker 8>Israel and the Middle East, we're working very much on that.

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<v Speaker 8>We're trying to get the war, stop that horrible, horrible

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<v Speaker 8>war that's going on in Ukraine with Russia. Ukraine. We're

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<v Speaker 8>going to We've got a little progress. It's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nasty one. It's nasty.

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<v Speaker 8>People are being killed at levels that nobody's ever seen,

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<v Speaker 8>you know. It's very level fields and the only thing

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<v Speaker 8>that stops a bullet is.

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<v Speaker 2>A body, a human body, and the number of.

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<v Speaker 8>Soldiers that are being killed on both sides is astronomical.

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<v Speaker 8>I've never seen anything like it, and rapidly I get

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<v Speaker 8>reports every week and it's not even you know, it's

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<v Speaker 8>like just going down. Nobody's seen anything like it. It's

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<v Speaker 8>a very flat surface, a very flat land. That's why

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<v Speaker 8>it's great farming land. It's the it's the bread basket

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<v Speaker 8>for the world actually, but it's very flat and there's

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<v Speaker 8>nothing to stop a bullet but a body. There's no protection,

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<v Speaker 8>no nothing, and it's what's happening there is far worse

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<v Speaker 8>than people are reporting for both sides. So we're going

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<v Speaker 8>to do our best that we've been doing our best,

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<v Speaker 8>and we'll see what happens. But since the election, I've

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<v Speaker 8>been working every day to put the world at ease

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit, to get rid of the wars. We

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<v Speaker 8>had no wars when I left office, and now the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>World is blowing up.

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<v Speaker 8>But there's great optimism, and you saw that by soft bank.

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<v Speaker 2>Starting on day one, we'll implement.

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<v Speaker 8>The rapid series of bold reforms to restore our nation

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<v Speaker 8>to fold prosperity. We're going to go full prosperity and

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<v Speaker 8>to build the greatest economy the world has ever seen,

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<v Speaker 8>just as we had just a short time ago. We

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<v Speaker 8>had it in my turn, with the greatest economy that

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<v Speaker 8>the world had seen.

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<v Speaker 2>We were blue owing away everybody.

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<v Speaker 8>Our country was doubling up on China, doubling up on everybody,

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<v Speaker 8>and everybody knows it. And then we had to slow

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<v Speaker 8>it down with COVID, unfortunately at the end. But even

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<v Speaker 8>then I gave it back with a substantial increase of

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<v Speaker 8>the stock market.

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<v Speaker 2>Bigger than it was pre COVID, So it was pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 8>Already, preparations are underway to slash massive numbers of job

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<v Speaker 8>killing regulationsing eliminating ten old regulations for every new one.

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<v Speaker 8>You put a new regulation on.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to get rid of ten and we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>able to do it. And that was about the percentage

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<v Speaker 2>we had.

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<v Speaker 8>We cut more regulations than any president has ever cut

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<v Speaker 8>by far, actually by approximately five times. Some of those regulations, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 8>were put back on.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll catch up very quickly. We'll catch up with it.

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<v Speaker 8>One of the things I'd like to ask the Biden administration,

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<v Speaker 8>as you probably heard, there are two events that took place.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about.

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<v Speaker 8>A friendly takeover, a friendly transition, as they like to say,

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<v Speaker 8>this is a friendly transition, and it is, but there

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<v Speaker 8>are two events.

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<v Speaker 2>That took place that I think are very terrible.

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<v Speaker 8>One is that if people don't come back to work,

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<v Speaker 8>come back into the office, they're going to be dismissed.

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<v Speaker 8>And somebody in the Biden administration gave a five year

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<v Speaker 8>waiver of that so that for five years people don't

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<v Speaker 8>have to come back into the office. It involved forty

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<v Speaker 8>nine thousand people for five years, they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to go. They just signed this thing. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 8>So it was like a gift to a union and

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to obviously be in court to stop. And

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<v Speaker 8>the other thing is really terrible. We spent a tremendous

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<v Speaker 8>amount of money in building the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>The wall was.

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<v Speaker 8>Designed specifically by the Border Patrol because it's very hard

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:52.159
<v Speaker 8>to climb. They need to have see through They needed

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 8>to be steeled because you can't get it's very powerful steel.

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 8>It's very hard steal. It's a special type of steel,

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 8>but very very hard to cut. Inside the steel. As

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, we pour concrete and that's a Grade ten concrete,

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 8>which is a very strong concrete, very as though you

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 8>were building about a sixty story building.

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 2>It's very powerful concrete.

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 8>They've made tremendous technology advances in the word concrete. Who

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.640
<v Speaker 8>would think that, but I know that from the construction

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.199
<v Speaker 8>industry today. What you can do with concrete is incredible.

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 8>So we have a very strong concrete and then we

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:32.360
<v Speaker 8>have a rebar. We put rebar inside the concrete and

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 8>the rebar, likewise, is very hard to cut. So it's

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 8>a very expensive process, very expensive wall. And then we

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 8>put a anti climb plate on the top. You saw

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 8>that and I didn't like the look of it, But

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 8>then when I watched we had people testing, We had

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 8>mountain climbers actually testing, and they were not able to

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 8>get over the anti climb plate.

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 2>So I said, all right, I guess we're going to

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 2>put it on that.

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 8>Plate on top, which I never loved the look of it,

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 8>but it works so unbelievable.

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, you have to do it.

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<v Speaker 8>So we spent a lot of money in building it,

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 8>and we have hundreds of miles that we put up.

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 8>A lot of people don't realize, but we did five

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 8>hundred and seventy one miles of wall. That's why we

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 8>had such good records, in addition to the fact that

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 8>Mexico helped us with their military. They kept people out

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 8>and they were actually very good under the past leader.

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 8>But now had we ordered an additional two hundred miles

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 8>of wall, it's very expensive, and now it's about double

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 8>the price of what it would have been six years ago,

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 8>and the administration is trying to sell it for five

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 8>cents on the dollar, knowing that we're getting ready to

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 8>put it up, and what they're doing is really an act.

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 8>It's almost it's almost a criminal act. They know we're

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 8>going to use it, and if we don't have it,

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 8>we're going to have to rebuild it, and it'll cost

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.479
<v Speaker 8>double what it costs years ago, and that's hundreds of

0:25:55.520 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 8>millions of dollars because you're talking about a lot of wall. Well,

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 8>I built much more than I said I was going

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 8>to build. But then after it was built, I said,

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, we can do some more because it's sort

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 8>of like water people flow through and that will pretty

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 8>much really take care of it. And what happened is

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 8>they just as you see, they're trying to sell it

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 8>for five cents of the dollar. And that's really that

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 8>has nothing to do with a smooth transition. That has

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 8>to do with people really trying to stop our nation.

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 8>And all it means really is that we're going to

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 8>spend hundreds of millions of dollars more, not even talking

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 8>about the time. Time would be pretty long, but we'll

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:44.120
<v Speaker 8>spend hundreds of millions of dollars more on.

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:45.879
<v Speaker 2>Building the same wall that we already have.

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 8>And people have already come back to us that have

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 8>deals at five cents and four cents, and one guy

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:57.199
<v Speaker 8>at three cents on the dollar, and they offered to

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 8>sell it back to us at more money then it

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 8>costs us to build substantially, can you believe it. So

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 8>they make a deal with the United States to buy

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 8>it for pennies and then they call us, and they say,

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 8>do you want to buy it back? We'll sell it

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 8>back to you for hundreds of dollars a foot, hundreds

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 8>of dollars from pennies to hundreds of dollars a foot.

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And we can't let this take place. Now, we're going

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>to go.

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 8>I spoke with the Attorney General of Texas. I spoke

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 8>to the Senators of Texas. I spoke to a lot

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 8>of people, and hopefully they'll be able to stop. We're

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 8>going to be having a restraining order. But just think

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 8>about how ridiculous it is. And this is just people

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 8>that don't want this country to succeed. And this has

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 8>nothing to do with Democrat or Republican. This has to

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 8>do with common sense. We won on common sense, and

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 8>this is maybe one of the most egregious examples I've seen.

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 8>So the people that are buying it, are trying to

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 8>buy it, are trying to make a deal with us

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 8>to sell it back at hundreds of times more, hundreds

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 8>of times more then we paid. And this is all

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 8>because the deb So I'm asking today Joe Biden to

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 8>please stop selling the world.

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>We're going to use that.

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 8>To create a strong barrier.

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 2>And it worked.

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 8>That's why our numbers were so good. It really worked,

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 8>and it worked well, and it's very expensive to do,

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 8>and I'm asking Joe Biden to stop his people from

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 8>giving it away. It's something that people can't even believe

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 8>is happening. So hopefully Joe will be able to stop it.

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 8>We'll soon unleash American energy and this will be done

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 8>at the levels not seen before, issuing quick approvals for pipelines,

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 8>drilling another infrastructure. It'll be clean energy, and we'll bring

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 8>in the price of electricity and we're going to bring

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 8>it down fast. We're also going to create clean coal.

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 8>Clean coal is something that has really taken over. We

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 8>have coal that will last for over a thousand years.

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 8>We have so much call, and with a process, it

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 8>becomes clean call. It's very powerful energy. Unlike wind. It's

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 8>very very powerful. And we're going to be doing a

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 8>lot of clean call for the people of West Virginia

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 8>and others, Wyoming, so many states. We have great states,

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 8>and they'll be happy to hear it. But we're going

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 8>to be very much into clean call. I don't ever

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 8>use the word call. I use the word clean call.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 8>And I'll keep my promise to pass historic tax cuts

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 8>for American families, workers, and businesses that create jobs in America.

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 8>As you know, we're giving tax cuts if they do it.

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 8>We brought it down from forty four percent forty two percent.

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 8>In some cases it was thirty nine. We brought it

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 8>all the way down to twenty one percent, and now

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 8>we're bringing it down to fifteen but only if they

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 8>make their product, their car or whatever they're doing in

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 8>the United States in the US and people are thrilled.

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 8>I've had the smartest people on Walston called me. They said,

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 8>when do you get that idea? And it doesn't seem

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 8>that complicated, right, but it's nobody else.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like the paper clip. Nobody ever thought of it.

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>One guy thought of it.

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 8>Everybody looked at it, and they said, Wow, that was

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 8>a good idea.

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Why didn't I think of it?

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 8>But we're bringing it down six more points and that

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 8>will put us really at the UH the best level

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 8>we've ever had for bringing in business. We've never been

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 8>down to. That level will be among the lowest tax states,

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 8>and a lot of businesses are going to come in

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 8>Between that and our taxing and tariff policies, We're going

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 8>to have business like nobody's ever seen in this country before.

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 8>That's why we're, you know, having a forty one year

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 8>record in optimism from small businesses and big businesses.

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 2>And I'll keep my.

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 8>Promise to pass historic tax cuts for families, workers, and

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 8>businesses that create jobs in America. Any business that invests

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 8>one billion dollars or more in the United States will

0:30:55.760 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 8>be eligible for fully expedited permits and approvals, including environmental approvals,

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 8>from the federal government. So when companies come in, if

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 8>they're going to invest a billion dollars and more, there'll

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 8>be many of them, and they'll go into Detroit, and

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 8>they're going to a lot of places where we want them.

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 8>You saw how well I did with the auto workers.

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 8>We did unbelievably well. You saw how well we did

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 8>with the teamsters, and also the non union were record

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 8>ninety eight percent, ninety seven percent. Nobody's ever got numbers

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 8>like that. Because we're bringing business back and they're all

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 8>coming back. We lost them over years of stupidity. I

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 8>call it the years of stupidity, the decades of stupidity.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 8>Through the Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk has been

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 8>working very hard with various people including Vivek will go

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 8>to eliminate hundreds of billions of dollars of wasting fraud,

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 8>and I can only tell you, I'll give you a

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 8>little early report. They're finding things that you wouldn't even believe.

0:31:56.080 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 8>So we're looking to say, maybe two trillion dollars will

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 8>have no impact.

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Actually it'll make life better, but it'll have no impact

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 2>on people.

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 8>It's not like we're we will never cut social security

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 8>things like that. It's just waste, fraud and abuse. And

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 8>we'll immediately restore the sovereign borders of the United States

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 8>and stop illegal immigration, which is costing US I believe

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 8>trillions of dollars a year. I think it's a cost

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 8>that nobody's ever seen anything like it. I don't know

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 8>how can you be satisfied releasing prisoners into the Uniteds.

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 8>To think of this, you're releasing prisoners from jails all

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 8>over the world, not just in South America, from the Congo.

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>I would talk about it all the time.

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 8>They're a very big sender of people, but from all

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 8>over the world. They're sending prisoners out of their jails.

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 8>Some of their jails are empty, and they will be

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 8>empty soon. If this ever continued, I spoke with a

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 8>president of Mexico, and as you know, I spoke with

0:32:54.520 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 8>Justin Trudeau of Canada, and we told them, not fair,

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 8>not right. Can't let these people come into our country.

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 8>And they understand they're very much unnoticed and they're going

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 8>to have to stop this from happening. They're going to

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 8>have to stop it. We lose a lot of money

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 8>to Mexico, We lose a lot of money to Canada,

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 8>tremendous money. We're subsidizing Canada with subsidizing Mexico.

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>That can't go wrong.

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 8>Then I get along with the people of Mexico and

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 8>Canada very well, but we can't let that happen. Why

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 8>are we supporting and giving other countries hundreds of billions

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 8>of dollars. It's not fair, it's not right, and the

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 8>people of Mexico and Canada fully understand that. We've talked

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 8>about it before, but now we're doing something about it.

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 8>We started and then we had to fix the COVID situation,

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 8>and that's what we did. But now we're doing it.

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 8>We're doing it from the beginning. Howard will be largely

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 8>in charge. We'll be working on her together. Howard's terrific

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 8>he's done a fantastic job, and he's now we leave.

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 3>President elect Donald Trump was discussing.

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 4>How Lonk, of course, and he's been discussing tax cuts

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 4>being promised, also asking on the current president Biden to.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Stop selling the border wall parts.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Is seeking a restraining order for border wall parts sales,

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 4>he says, criticizing basically the administration's.

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Selling of border war parts. He says, they're going to be.

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 4>Fighting as well what they call federal workers return to

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.760
<v Speaker 4>office waiver, and there's work underway to slash regulation more broadly.

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 4>He named checks FIVEK and of course Elon Musk there

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 4>and they made some progress as well in stopping the

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 4>war in Ukraine.

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 3>You want to go back to.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, though, the business being announced by, of course, the

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 4>CEO of SoftBank, Massioshi's son. He's the founder who's coming

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.919
<v Speaker 4>on to talk about the one hundred billion dollars that's

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 4>going to be invested by soft Bank into the United

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 4>States over the next four years, the one hundred thousand

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 4>jobs made, and in fact, he was saying he's going

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 4>to try and make it even bigger two hundred thousand potentially.

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 4>Let's get to Mike Shephard and just let's focus first

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 4>on the tech side of all of this, because.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 3>It's deja vous.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 4>We saw half the amount promised, and they are said

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 4>to have been delivered by Massa back in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an echo of what we saw eight years ago,

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>almost to the day, when Masa Isshu saw him made

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>this promise at Trump Tower of a fifty billion dollar

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 1>investment with fifty thousand jobs. And as Peter our colleague

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 1>discussed earlier in the program, he largely made good on that.

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Trump is putting him on the spot today a little

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>bit already inking this one hundred billion dollar promise one

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand jobs and trying to get him to double

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>even that. And we heard Peter talk about how Masa

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>issue Saw may not have all that much in the

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<v Speaker 1>tank to be able to pull it off. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time we heard Son talk about how he

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<v Speaker 1>has such confidence in the incoming administration that maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>will be a way to help him gain some of

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<v Speaker 1>those investments and gain that capital needs.

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<v Speaker 4>And the support of the next administration. The support of

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump as president shouldn't come as a surprise, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was interesting also is how the president After

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<v Speaker 1>Somem left the stage, he talked about his commitment to

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<v Speaker 1>trying to I guess, revive and reinvigorate the economy from

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<v Speaker 1>the business perspective, not only by cutting corporate tax rates,

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<v Speaker 1>but by trying to cut red tape. And just last

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<v Speaker 1>week we heard him make the pledge that he reiterated

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<v Speaker 1>today that anyone investing a billion dollars or more in

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<v Speaker 1>the US would get speedier permit review. And that has

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<v Speaker 1>been an issue that we've heard energy companies and even

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<v Speaker 1>tech companies bring up. The tech companies that are getting

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<v Speaker 1>into AI have such energy demands that they need for

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<v Speaker 1>their data centers, and without that kind of support to

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<v Speaker 1>speed those projects, they see their AI ambitions at risk

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<v Speaker 1>of being slowed.

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<v Speaker 4>We can indeed see onto social web. Presidentelect Trump had

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<v Speaker 4>to discuss the one billion dollars or more that can

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<v Speaker 4>be allocated to the United States and therefore getting that

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<v Speaker 4>expedited approval and permitting. Mike, it is seemingly all about AI,

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.760
<v Speaker 4>all about energy when it comes to Mass's investment. Last time,

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<v Speaker 4>it seemed to be a whole host of I mean

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<v Speaker 4>people talking to the hundreds of companies that Soft Bank

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<v Speaker 4>put money into it via the Vision Fund and indeed buys.

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<v Speaker 3>Soft Bank directly.

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<v Speaker 4>We already see this money being allocated to Open AI,

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<v Speaker 4>for example. Are we expecting a mixture of startups and

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<v Speaker 4>publicly traded companies? Is there anything discerning as to the

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<v Speaker 4>direction of travel of which companies are going to be backed?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's really tough to say right now exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how this money would be applied if it refers back

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<v Speaker 1>to already planned investments by soft Bank in other ventures

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<v Speaker 1>and vehicles, we just don't have those details. And in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, just like Trump's truth social post on cutting

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>red tape and regulation, we really don't know exactly how

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>he intends to do that either. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to see how this unfolds. And there will be

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<v Speaker 1>more to come from masseoshusan how much of this money

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<v Speaker 1>gets deployed into the US, how quickly and toward whom?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there are a lot of startups, including

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<v Speaker 1>people who have ties into the administration, who will be

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<v Speaker 1>very interested in that kind of a partnership.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Shepherd always a joy. Thank you for breaking it

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<v Speaker 4>all down. Meanwhile, coming up, we'll have plenty more on

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 4>the future of the media landscape as well as costs

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<v Speaker 4>of AI's power hungry features. More next this bloombag technology.

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<v Speaker 4>We are watching bloombag technology right now and we're bringing

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<v Speaker 4>you the latest out. Of course, Trump speaking in Mara

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<v Speaker 4>Lago at a press conference discussing the future of TikTok

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment, so keep a close eye. They said

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to be taking a look at TikTok. We

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<v Speaker 4>know at the moment that the TikTok it's elf did

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<v Speaker 4>not get the pause that had wanted to see on

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<v Speaker 4>the potential divestment or ban that is likely to come

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<v Speaker 4>intoffect on January the nineteenth, the day before Trump is inaugurated.

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<v Speaker 4>So taking a look at the social media platform TikTok

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<v Speaker 4>will bring you any more breaking news coming from that

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 4>press conference. But we want to check in on the

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 4>markets because we are currently on the risk on attitude.

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 4>We're up NASA one hundred almost a percentage point higher.

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<v Speaker 4>Chip Make is Broadcom leading us on the higher side

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<v Speaker 4>as well. We're seeing Bitcoin up some three four percent,

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<v Speaker 4>a new record high. Once again, is MicroStrategy going to

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<v Speaker 4>be inducted into the NASA one hundred More money therefore

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 4>going there from allocated funds and what does that mean

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 4>more money probably likely to be spent on bitcoin by

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 4>that particular name. Meanwhile, we want to go back to

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 4>what has been the story of the day, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>investment into the United States as well, coming from SoftBank.

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<v Speaker 4>Massa was just at that press conference in Marinaco, massasun

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<v Speaker 4>of course CEO of soft Bank committing is going to

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<v Speaker 4>try two hundred billion dollars, but he has committed to

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred billion dollars of investment in AI and energy

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<v Speaker 4>and infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 3>That following on, of course, for the.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty billion dollars he promised back in twenty sixteen. ARM

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<v Speaker 4>holding is interestingly down on the news. We're off by

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<v Speaker 4>five percent. It happens to me having its day in court.

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<v Speaker 4>We understand being reported that ARM and Qualcom had their

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<v Speaker 4>first day in court. Of course ARM and qual Com

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 4>buying over the future of their relationship. But maybe some

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<v Speaker 4>hypotheticals as to what ARM would mean in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>the ninety percent holding that SoftBank has in it if

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to be raising more funds. Let's also discuss

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<v Speaker 4>what it means to the investment landscape more broadly here

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States at the moment from a VC perspective, Look,

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<v Speaker 4>there's plenty of news when we're thinking about American AI startups,

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<v Speaker 4>and we've got a perfect voice on the Excel partner.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Whiteground is with us today's VC spotlight.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt, you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone who's just been allocating interestingly to a public company

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<v Speaker 4>is of course based in Europe, but thinking about AI infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 4>about access to the cloud. Nimbus is the name of

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<v Speaker 4>the company you're looking at, But you're also just thinking

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<v Speaker 4>of the turf warfare that's out there to allocate money

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<v Speaker 4>to generator AIAI.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just going to add to the party.

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<v Speaker 10>Right, Yeah, absolutely, Well, first, thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 10>But we had Excel our big believers that we're only

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<v Speaker 10>in the early innings of laying down the infrastructure that's

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<v Speaker 10>going to be required to actually support this massive technological

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<v Speaker 10>wave of AI. So this committed investment doesn't surprise me

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<v Speaker 10>at all to see it coming in because we do

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<v Speaker 10>need that infrastructure. So I'm excited to see more infrastructure

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<v Speaker 10>being laid down for AI.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, where are you seeing the biggest opportunities. You've just

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<v Speaker 4>made this allocation of funds into a publicly traded allocator

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<v Speaker 4>of cloud. We've got Core, We've already out there as

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<v Speaker 4>a big pivot from all these companies that we're looking

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<v Speaker 4>at bitcoin mining and now getting into the world at

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<v Speaker 4>cloud computing. But what next in terms of areas that

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<v Speaker 4>you think are fruitful?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 10>At Excel we broadly invest across two different facets of AI.

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<v Speaker 10>We think about infrastructure, which ATBs is very much an

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<v Speaker 10>example of that, also investing in companies like Scale AI

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 10>in the infrastructure layer helping build the data engine for AI.

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<v Speaker 10>But then we can't forget about the applications that are

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<v Speaker 10>going to run on that infrastructure. So we see great

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:55.720
<v Speaker 10>opportunities in both enterprise and consumer applications. Our most recent

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 10>investment in the consumer side of things was into a

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<v Speaker 10>company called Speak, supporting language learning for AI.

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<v Speaker 4>So that is the tussle right at the moment. There

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<v Speaker 4>is an awful lot of money being allocated to building

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 4>picks and shovels infrastructure, and many feel the valuations potentially

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:14.959
<v Speaker 4>have gone out of whack. There we now go into

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 4>the killer applications that many are still waiting on. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you think we're actually there and people aren't seeing the

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<v Speaker 4>application and generator of AI right now?

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<v Speaker 3>The real productivity games.

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely, we see it from the ground up, and we

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<v Speaker 10>see companies that are gaining real traction and driving real

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<v Speaker 10>value both in enterprise and consumer. So, although it is

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<v Speaker 10>still the early innings and a lot of the emphasis

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 10>has been on that infrastructure the training to get us

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<v Speaker 10>to the point where we can actually run inference on

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<v Speaker 10>these models and get the value out of them, I

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<v Speaker 10>think you're going to start to see, particularly across twenty

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<v Speaker 10>twenty five and twenty twenty six, applications spring up both

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<v Speaker 10>in enterprise and consumer that drive real value.

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<v Speaker 2>To the end user.

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<v Speaker 4>But then when I think of enterprise, you've got salesforce

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<v Speaker 4>all in on agent force, Who've got Microsoft trying to

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<v Speaker 4>offerate so copilots. Where is the space or is it

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<v Speaker 4>actually the all of these startups will end up being

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<v Speaker 4>eaten up by these bigger enterprise companies.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the EXO strategy.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's a really good question. So speaking on the

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 10>infrastructure layer with Nebus, what we actually see is that

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<v Speaker 10>by pairing their four hundred software and hardware engineers against

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<v Speaker 10>the problem of standing up infrastructure, but doing it with

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 10>an AI specific approach, we're able to offer a level

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 10>of flexibility that the large incumbents offering generalized clouds just

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 10>don't have in the ecosystem today. So that means that

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:28.240
<v Speaker 10>people can come to us that need large amounts of compute,

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 10>that want bare metal, and people can also come to

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 10>us that just want an on demand, flexible experience with

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<v Speaker 10>their infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 3>So as always, you see.

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<v Speaker 10>The innovation in their early startups tackling some of the

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 10>holes and open opportunities in the large incumbents, and I

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 10>expect to see the same thing. Salesforce obviously defending its territory,

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 10>but we see a ton of activity and agentic approaches

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 10>and apps going after their exact market, so we'll continue

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 10>to see.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a gentaki going to be the next sort

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<v Speaker 4>of over allocated area.

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've all got way too.

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<v Speaker 4>In the weeds when it came to chip and semi

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<v Speaker 4>conductors for twenty twenty four. When it comes to twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five, we're all going to be parlaying and ergentic AI.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think it's over hyped at all. I think

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<v Speaker 10>in the reality is we're still in the early innings

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<v Speaker 10>and the expectations are quite high on what agents are

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<v Speaker 10>going to do within the enterprise. Application arena, and so

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<v Speaker 10>it's easy to point at the flaws and agents today,

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<v Speaker 10>but I tend to look at the progress of agents,

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<v Speaker 10>and as an investor, I look at where value is

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<v Speaker 10>going to be created over the next decade.

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<v Speaker 3>And over the next.

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<v Speaker 10>Decade, I think you're going to see really mature agents

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<v Speaker 10>hit the market and scale in a meaningful way.

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<v Speaker 4>Come when they're ready and fit for purpose and can

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<v Speaker 4>talk to us a little bit more. Accel partner Matt

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<v Speaker 4>Wagan fascinating across the infrastructure and now of course the

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 4>application layer too. Let's just move to public markets for

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<v Speaker 4>a moment, because the Nastik debut for tech startup service Titan,

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<v Speaker 4>bringing big windfalls for early investors, includes more than one

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 4>million dollars going to Iconic Growth for example, over eight

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 4>hundred million going to best in my mention partners.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all according to sources, and they told Katie Roof.

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<v Speaker 4>Katie bring us the breakdown on who the big winners

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 4>were on this a well, it was culse enlisting that

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<v Speaker 4>popped so much that many would say that some money

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<v Speaker 4>was left on the table.

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<v Speaker 11>Sure, absolutely, so there's a few things to get at here.

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<v Speaker 11>But so a service Titan, you know, they're an LA

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<v Speaker 11>based software provider for like the plumbing industry, other home

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.799
<v Speaker 11>service providers. They've been around for a while, and so

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<v Speaker 11>even though you know, they were valued pretty highly in

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<v Speaker 11>some recent rounds, like you know, almost ten billion dollars

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 11>because Iconic and Bessemer and Battery Ventures bought so many

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 11>shares when it was such a young startup at a

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 11>small price that you know, Iconic stands to gain over

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<v Speaker 11>a billion dollars from this investment. I've confirmed Bessemers stands

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<v Speaker 11>to gain over eight hundred million dollars because even though

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<v Speaker 11>they have about nine hundred million dollars worth of shares,

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<v Speaker 11>it cost roughly maybe sixty million to acquire those shares.

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<v Speaker 3>For Bessemer.

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<v Speaker 4>Kh ruth all things on some of the allocations and

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 4>those that are reaping the rewards when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the latest IPOs, we really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you coming out from LA.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, while coming up AI's energy demand shock more

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<v Speaker 4>on how businesses are preparing for a future that requires

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<v Speaker 4>more resources as of.

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<v Speaker 3>Blue meg technology.

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<v Speaker 4>The AI boom has caused one unintended consequence. Businesses, investors

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<v Speaker 4>in society are now bracing for an energy demand shock

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<v Speaker 4>that comes with utilizing the resource intensive features bluem excellent

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<v Speaker 4>dwe joins US now for is a real deep dive

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 4>into the implications of artificial intelligence, one that perhaps one

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<v Speaker 4>MASSIVEUSI soun is looking to help finance some of the

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<v Speaker 4>issues in these issues.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, what a coincidental timing for US to have just

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<v Speaker 12>put out this piece on the massive infrastructure demands of AI,

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<v Speaker 12>and not just energy, right, we were talking about the

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<v Speaker 12>demand on metals and mining, on land and real estate,

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<v Speaker 12>on human beings, on data, on data centers, on steel, copper, gold, aluminum,

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<v Speaker 12>and so if you put all of those together like

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<v Speaker 12>we did in that massive AI supply chain piece that

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<v Speaker 12>we did on Friday, you can understand and it's almost

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<v Speaker 12>not surprising for someone like Massa to say, yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 12>drop one hundred million dollars in the US because they're

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<v Speaker 12>going to need it. The whole industry is the whole

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<v Speaker 12>industry is going to be a lot more than one

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<v Speaker 12>hundred billion dollars. So one might argue that these plans

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<v Speaker 12>have already been quite in the making.

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<v Speaker 3>To that point.

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<v Speaker 4>We've reported long and hard about Sam Altman trying to

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<v Speaker 4>gather sort of a table of international investors wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>bring on Yeah, coalition exactly, but how much are they

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<v Speaker 4>looking on this being built in the United States?

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<v Speaker 3>So how geopolitically expose can you still be? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 12>And I think that there is a narrative that is

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<v Speaker 12>playing out in the tech community right now that acknowledges

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<v Speaker 12>no specific country has all of the resources that are

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<v Speaker 12>necessary to build and dominate AI as a hub, and

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<v Speaker 12>so we will have to look for allies, We will

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<v Speaker 12>have to look for coalitions among like minded countries. That

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<v Speaker 12>is what the tech community and executives like open ai

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<v Speaker 12>and Nvidia are telling the administration in DC that it's

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<v Speaker 12>time to be thinking about how we can pull our

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<v Speaker 12>resources to own this technology but also control it in

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<v Speaker 12>the proper ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think your story is shocked anyone?

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<v Speaker 12>Which, sorry, oh, I would hope So, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 12>would hope that it's a wake up call that I think.

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<v Speaker 12>If there is one message that I'd like to send

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<v Speaker 12>out of that AI supply chain data visualization, it is

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<v Speaker 12>that for all the talk of AI making the world

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<v Speaker 12>more efficient, quicker, less human resources intensive, it is actually

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<v Speaker 12>an incredibly resource intensive, inefficient technology.

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<v Speaker 4>For now, at least Injuan. It's a great story, go

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