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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the NFL Week ten Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Flex on the Action Network Podcast. I'm Matthew Friedman, the

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of Fantasy Labs, with me as Sean

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Speaker 1: Corner and Chris Raymond. Shawn is our director of predictive

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Speaker 1: Analytics and one of the top end season fantasy football

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Speaker 1: rankers for the past half decade. And Chris is a

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Speaker 1: senior editor and analyst at the Action Network and a

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Speaker 1: co host of the Action Network show on Sirius XM

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Radio. And joining us for I believe his first

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Speaker 1: time on the show is Patrick Gardy aka Rotopat, an

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Speaker 1: NFL writer for roatal World in NBC Sports, and I

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Speaker 1: should say a blurb artist of the highest order, Rotopat.

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Speaker 1: How is week nine for you? What caught your eye?

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Speaker 5: Another week in the books? Is it already kind of

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Speaker 5: the time of season where you know, we all love football,

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Speaker 5: but we're kind of like, you know, a season starting

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Speaker 5: to feel kind of long.

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Speaker 1: That's me in week two. I mean, that's that's just

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Speaker 1: what it is.

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Speaker 5: Well, come, I maybe the amazing play of Mitchell Trubisky,

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Speaker 5: Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones. Does that count? Devin Singletary

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Speaker 5: finally taking control of the Bills backfield? You know how

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Speaker 5: long have we been waiting for?

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Speaker 4: That?

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Speaker 5: Probably would have happened sooner if not for had missed

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Speaker 5: weeks three through five of this hamstring injury. A team

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Speaker 5: that you know needs more playmaking ability badly. Seems like

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Speaker 5: a pretty easy adjustment for the Bills to make to

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Speaker 5: stick with Devin Singletary as the lead back going forward.

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Speaker 5: Maybe Damian Williams reemerging in Kansas City too. I thought

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Speaker 5: may he had an opening with the shady fumble in

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Speaker 5: Week eight. I thought Danian had an opening. I certainly

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Speaker 5: seemed to take it a ninety one yard touchdowns, good

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Speaker 5: way to seize the day. And I think I'll probably

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Speaker 5: keep Damien ahead of well, I know I'll keep Damien

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Speaker 5: ahead of the Sean McCoy for Week nine.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, you mentioned rankings, which naturally leads me

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Speaker 1: to something I wanted to talk about, Sean Chris right now.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to another top ten performance last week, Raybon is

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Speaker 1: number one in the Fantasy Proce ranking contest.

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Speaker 5: I had a Sean, that's nuts.

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Speaker 1: I know, well, Shawn's number eleven. Not odds maker. First

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Speaker 1: of all, what's happening with you?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 1: Second of all, what are the odds that Raybon finishes

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Speaker 1: the year ranked higher than you?

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's crushing it. I'm happy for him. He

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Speaker 4: has like a fifty point lead over me, so that's

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Speaker 4: going to be tough to catch up. So, you know,

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Speaker 4: mad props for Raybon. But this is the time of year.

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Speaker 4: Usually the second half is when I gained steam, and

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Speaker 4: it's pretty tight up there. So I'm hoping, you know,

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Speaker 4: I break the top five, but Raybon's killing it. Keep

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Speaker 4: it up, Raybon, and no pressure. I know how it feels.

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Speaker 4: You probably haven't filthy yet, but I mean it's real

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Speaker 4: now you got a pretty big lead. Don't change it up.

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Speaker 4: Just keep going you're doing. That's my advice, because you're

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Speaker 4: just killing it.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, once you get into the double digit weeks, that's

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Speaker 1: where the pressure really starts exactly exactly. Raybond, what do

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Speaker 1: you think the odds are that you will finish ahead

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Speaker 1: of Odds Maker?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, man, I was thinking, like, what are

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Speaker 7: the odds that we finished one and two?

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Speaker 3: That's the interesting one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like thinking about that a lot better than

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Speaker 4: me versus Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 7: That just sounds like a jinx anyway, any answer either of.

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Speaker 5: Us give you guys, are gonna be like a dominant

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Speaker 5: Tour de France team, are you know, like an F

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Speaker 5: one racing or whatever. Who's gonna start drafting for? Who

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Speaker 5: you know you have to side in the stretch run?

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Speaker 5: Who's gonna get Well?

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Speaker 4: I wish I drafted whatever you call a NASCAR Raybon

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Speaker 4: on that Tyler Lockett number one wide receiver rank Classic.

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Speaker 4: That would be a nice to been part of that.

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Speaker 4: I had him number seven, so but yeah, things like that.

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Speaker 4: That's where raybon really has an edge over the field.

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Speaker 4: He's pretty bold with things like that and nailed it

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm clearly drafting off of both of you guys.

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Speaker 1: After an abysmal start to the year, I literally was

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Speaker 1: one of the lowest rankers for the first two weeks

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Speaker 1: of the season, it was horrible. I've clawed my way

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Speaker 1: back to number thirty nine, So everyone in the top twenty,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming for you. As the weather gets colder, I

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Speaker 1: get better.

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Speaker 5: I got an interject really quick. I don't miss the

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Speaker 5: Fantasy pros pressure at roade a World no longer participates.

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Speaker 5: I was kind of sad. I got in the top

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Speaker 5: ten my first two years, but then the competition got

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Speaker 5: a lot fiercer, and I'm like a I'm like a

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Speaker 5: by hand ranker, Like I don't have my own projections,

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Speaker 5: I don't have my own model, so I go through

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Speaker 5: it like basically by hand. I was a player by player,

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Speaker 5: and I had kind of settled into like the top

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Speaker 5: I would to say even I was just sick with

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Speaker 5: feel like my rankings are just better now because I'm

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Speaker 5: not I don't know if I don't know if they

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Speaker 5: actually are or not, but I don't miss the stress.

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Speaker 5: And good luck to you guys down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, let's talk about this because I think

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Speaker 1: there actually is a pretty legit difference between doing rankings

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Speaker 1: for the benefit of fantasy users and doing rankings for

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Speaker 1: a contest against other people who are trying to win

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Speaker 1: against let's say, like one hundred and forty other rankers,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like I mean, there's there's correlation between the

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Speaker 1: two things, but there is a difference, like for instance,

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Speaker 1: Raybond going with Tyler Lockett number one on the one hand,

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Speaker 1: like he might have thought that that's actually where Lockett belonged,

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Speaker 1: like from a contest perspective. On the other hand, it's

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Speaker 1: also a great move because he has leverage on the

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Speaker 1: entire field because no one else was putting Lockett number one.

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Speaker 1: So if Lockett does hit, then he just smashes that week.

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Speaker 1: And that's what happened.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna be totally honest with you guys, like as

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Speaker 7: you know, most things that never crossed my mind, and

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Speaker 7: that really doesn't cross my Like I just really shut

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Speaker 7: Like I just really started under standing even how the

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Speaker 7: because I never did like so I do my initial projections,

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Speaker 7: and I look at my model and it's Tyler Locker's

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Speaker 7: My model was just like somebody's got to get all

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Speaker 3: From Russell Wilson. Like that's really all it.

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Speaker 7: Came down to, Like he actually was number one in

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Speaker 7: was just really the Seahawks receivers popping in my model.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's move on from the Raybaun celebration

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Speaker 1: parade and get into week ten. Let's start with the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. The players at the top of our rankings

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Speaker 1: right now, which you can find at Action network dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Fantasy. Those three players are Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: and Jameis Winston. Sir Rodopat, I noticed early in the week,

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Speaker 1: so you might not have your your projections or your

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Speaker 1: your rankings kind of slotted in yet, But Jackson, Mahomes, Winston,

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone else that you would kind of put

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Speaker 5: It does seem like the reasonable time I've got my

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Speaker 5: Kind of in my head before I really dug into it,

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Speaker 5: have Lamar Jackson right now. It's hard to see how

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Speaker 5: he doesn't detonate the Bengals. I mean A on the

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Speaker 5: past few weeks. Now I face as a team with

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Speaker 5: the horribly banged up secondary, a defense that was really

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Speaker 5: though he doesn't pay, maybe the Ravens totally dominate game

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Speaker 5: first career start and Ryan Finley, and he gets to

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Speaker 5: run a lot too. So I there's so many paths

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Speaker 5: from Lamar to kind of number one overall this week

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Speaker 5: that I give him the edge over Mahomes will be

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Speaker 5: you know, we don't know quite sure what his health

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean to your point about Lamar a

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Speaker 1: number one when he decimated the Bengals in week six,

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Speaker 1: So a good situation for him. Who else are you

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's got to be Kyler, right, It's all

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Speaker 5: about Andy Isabella finally unleashed, finally freed. He should have

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Speaker 5: been a top ten receiver. I've got Andy Isabella in

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Speaker 5: gonna have him Riagh like fifty five or sixty, probably

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Speaker 5: like sixty. Raymond had Tyler Lockett ranked number one last

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Speaker 5: week because Russell Wilson facing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and

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Speaker 5: now we've got Kyler Murray facing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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Speaker 5: coming off. It was just a good start all around,

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray. It was a huge dud from Chritian Kirk

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Speaker 5: last week with Christian Kirk is healthy. Kyler is the

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Speaker 5: one I've got maybe the first time all year. I

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Speaker 5: had him outside at the top twelve last week, and

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Speaker 5: I've got him back in like round eight or nine.

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Speaker 1: Kyler is one of the guys who's popping in the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Labs models in Raymond. You are high on him.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts there.

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Speaker 7: Tampa Bay Is It's not only that they were a

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Speaker 7: bad pass defense that lacks talent, but they're path funnal,

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Speaker 7: like they're the number they are top three defense against

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Speaker 7: the run, and so it sets up really well for

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Speaker 7: Kyler to just, you know, and that scheme to just

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Speaker 7: kind of throw it all around the yard.

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Speaker 3: Could be a shootout.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: The Bucks have kind of getting into those things.

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Speaker 7: The only thing you worry about is there's always Jameis

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Speaker 7: the defense houses it. But absence of that, I think

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Speaker 7: Howard can have a flow chart game. But either way,

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Speaker 1: All right, Sean, you are on a relatively high on

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Speaker 1: One guy I'm relatively high on is Brian Hoyer, and

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Speaker 5: You know, it's like the truly dark time of the fantasy.

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Speaker 3: For like the struggling defenses.

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Speaker 5: That's probably smart. I might end up adjusting on that.

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Speaker 3: I think people are underrate their defense.

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Speaker 4: And you know, while I bumped down his rushing projection

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Speaker 1: All right, Ravon, you have Stafford rate number eighteen. I

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Speaker 7: You know, you can't base your your you know, you

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Speaker 7: And so just for all those reasons, I think there's like,

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Speaker 7: I'll put it that way, Like there's other there's other guys,

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Speaker 5: I've got number ten. By the way, I would say

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Speaker 7: Who do you played the Giants dream matchup? So I

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry I keep digressing. But last week I had Donald,

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Speaker 1: All right, Sean, it is time to get your quarterback prop.

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Speaker 1: By the way, each week we go through this prop

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Speaker 1: Everyone should be sure to check out the Fantasy Lapse

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Speaker 4: So let's go with Lamar Jackson. His DK point over

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred and fifty two rushing yards will do that.

435
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he went off against the Pats, Like

436
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Speaker 7: you said, I think that's all I.

437
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Speaker 4: Needed to see.

438
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Speaker 1: Like he's averaging twenty seven point seven per game and

439
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 1: he's going against one of the decidedly worst defenses in

440
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Speaker 1: the league. I mean, the one thing you can say

441
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 1: about him is that he's going to be on the road,

442
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Speaker 1: which I mean, that's a negative historically for quarterbacks and

443
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 1: for him specifically, But I don't think it's that big

444
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Speaker 1: of a negative.

445
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Speaker 5: Withamar Jackson. It's always the over now, it's only over.

446
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 5: It's no such things under anymore with them over.

447
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Speaker 1: Let's get into the running backs, the guys at the

448
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Speaker 1: top of our rankings, Christian McCaffrey's take one Barkley, Dalvin Cook,

449
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Speaker 1: Sir rotopat, is there another running back that you would

450
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Speaker 1: put in there in the top three?

451
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Speaker 5: No? No, and especially McCaffrey number one. Yet it's so

452
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 5: hard guys having a season like Dalvin Cook, Like, it's

453
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Speaker 5: so hard not to have Dalvin Cook number one. But

454
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Speaker 5: he's just still an order of magnitude below McCaffrey. He

455
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Speaker 5: was now facing a Packers run defense that is just

456
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 5: getting exploded now on a weekly basis. And I wouldn't

457
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Speaker 5: consider Zeke and play for number one. I would put

458
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Speaker 5: Zeke maybe in the top three, just because it's at

459
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Speaker 5: home and it's not a great matchup for Cookie. I

460
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 5: have Cooked too, I think Zeke right now the Giants

461
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 5: offense is just haven't had everyone healthy all at once

462
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Speaker 5: in a while. We don't know Sterling Shepherd's status. He

463
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 5: mentioned earlier Evan Ingram probably gonna play it, but now

464
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 5: it's an injury and it's like the Giants offense overall

465
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 5: lack of rhythm. I think sometimes it's hurting Saquon where

466
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Speaker 5: I'm kind of almost viewing him more as like not

467
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Speaker 5: automatic top three right now, but the matchup is so good,

468
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Speaker 5: so I don't object to having in there. But to me,

469
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Speaker 5: CMC Cook the clear cut top two, and then I

470
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Speaker 5: don't see myself moving off Zeke as the RB three

471
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Speaker 5: this week.

472
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Speaker 1: Actually, all right, So who else are you relatively high

473
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Speaker 1: on in your rankings?

474
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Speaker 5: Oh? Boy, does Melvin Gordon kind? I mean, I don't

475
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Speaker 5: even want to say I feel like point chasing with

476
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Speaker 5: Melvin Gordon. But uh, the Raiders are better against the

477
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Speaker 5: run than the past, but the Raiders still overall one

478
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Speaker 5: of the most talentless defense and defenses in the league.

479
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 5: John Gruden openly complaining about his lack of linebackers. I

480
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 5: just think it's a good week short Week two, even

481
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Speaker 5: against a bad pass defense, the Chargers are probably gonna

482
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Speaker 5: hashtag establish it, and I think it's probab a good

483
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Speaker 5: week to chase point. I don't know.

484
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's chasing points with Melvin Gordon,

485
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: but the.

486
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Speaker 5: Good week to get Melvin Gordon kind of back closer

487
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Speaker 5: to where you think he should be, which would be

488
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Speaker 5: in the top eight team for sure in most weeks.

489
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Speaker 5: I think you know a lot of the other Devin Singletary,

490
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 5: of course, who we think is taking control of the Bills' backfield,

491
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Speaker 5: Ronald Jones, who appeared to take control of the Bucks

492
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Speaker 5: backfield and the Bruce Arians said had taken control of

493
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Speaker 5: the Bucks backfield. It's another guy I've got a lot

494
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Speaker 5: higher than I've had in recent weeks. And then you know,

495
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Speaker 5: this one's very dark. But Klin Blage, I guess you

496
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Speaker 5: know Mark Walton now suspended the Dolphins backup with Miles Gaskin.

497
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Speaker 1: I guess Sean Pat mentioned Devin Singletary, Ronald Jones. I

498
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Speaker 1: believe you are high on those guys as well.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ronald Jones, especially on DK. I think he's forty

500
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Speaker 4: three hundred right now. That seems you know, who knows

501
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 4: what we could believe, but I think at that price

502
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Speaker 4: we can just assume he's the lead back now. Plus

503
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Speaker 4: this is a game script where I think they'll try

504
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 4: to run the ball minimize you know, the possibility of

505
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 4: Winston Tournioto, a game they should win. But yeah, Devin Singletary,

506
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty clear if you look at the

507
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 4: underlying data, he's he's pretty much the starter now because

508
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 4: we've seen back to gout games of sixty six percent

509
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: of the snaps and that was a game where they

510
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 4: lost by eighteen and a game they won by fifteen,

511
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: So we've seen both game scripts where he's the lead back.

512
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: So that's that's really good news. And also I believe

513
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: it's the second quarter, Frank Gore ran into a wall

514
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: three straight times on the goal line, so they actually

515
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Speaker 4: gave Singletary the next goal line carry in the fourth

516
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Speaker 4: quarter and he converted to our touchdown, so we can

517
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Speaker 4: add potential you know, goal line back to the list.

518
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 4: So he's he's very much the lead back on the Bills,

519
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 4: unless you take out Josh Allen and that, but yeah,

520
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 4: he's he's the lead back now. The underlying metrics support it.

521
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Speaker 4: So at five K against the Browns, who've they've given

522
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Speaker 4: up some pretty big games on the ground lately, So

523
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Speaker 4: I think he's a great play at five K this week, Raymond, who.

524
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Speaker 3: Do you like? David Montgomery?

525
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Speaker 7: Chicago has and leaning on the run game a lot

526
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 7: more lately, and if you look at the Detroit Lions,

527
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 7: every week they've given up at least fourteen point six

528
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 7: PPR points to a running back, and in all but

529
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 7: one game they've given up twenty plus. And Montgomery not

530
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 7: only has he started to get a lot more usage

531
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 7: over these past couple of games, but his targets here

532
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 7: starting to creep up toward that ten percent mark, which

533
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 7: you want to see it at least that for a

534
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Speaker 7: running back that you're going to kind of consider in

535
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Speaker 7: the top twenty. So I think Montgomery at five point

536
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Speaker 7: one K home favorite against the Wayans, a team that

537
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 7: they're going to want to kind of take the air

538
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 7: out of the ball against after how much success staffers

539
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 7: been having, I think it's a good spot for him.

540
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 5: The Bears, in actions and words have said they no

541
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Speaker 5: longer have any faith in Mitchell Trubisky and that they

542
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 5: are now all aboard the established train and it's going

543
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Speaker 5: to be David Montgomery down the stretch.

544
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Speaker 1: All right, Pat, who are you relatively low on this week?

545
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Speaker 5: I guess I'm believing And Sean and Lashawan McCoy kind

546
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 5: of being banished. I didn't like this one, but maybe

547
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 5: Jamal Williams, which feels like what's the reverse inverse of

548
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 5: point chasy, Like I feel like maybe punishing Jamal Williams

549
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 5: a little too much for his quiet. You see Raymond

550
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 5: shake this jump into Jamal talking me out of fading

551
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 5: will Like.

552
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Speaker 7: This guy plays like half the snatch, like the same

553
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 7: for Aaron Jones. Like Jamal Williams has it. Everyone keeps

554
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 7: asking me, like whether they should bench Jamal. It's like,

555
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 7: I mean, this Packers offense is very running back centric

556
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 7: at this point, and you saw what happened, Like you know,

557
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 7: when they try to throw the ball, it didn't work.

558
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 7: Jones had a bad game. Williams has been pretty consistent.

559
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 7: Like I think, like it just it doesn't feel good

560
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 7: because he's like the number two back. But I think

561
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 7: it's a much different situation than McCoy who played six

562
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Speaker 7: snaps and got and ran two routes.

563
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Speaker 5: Lest well you go, you go, Matt.

564
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, here's kind of the interesting thing Sean.

565
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Speaker 1: On the outline, it says that you are relatively down

566
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: on Jamal williamps. Do you have anything to say to

567
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: the guy who currently leads the Fantasy Proach ranking man.

568
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: So I had a bit of a rant last week.

569
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Speaker 4: How when when I, you know, say by loo on

570
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: a player, it doesn't mean it's all or nothing that week.

571
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 4: You know, it could take two or three weeks for

572
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: that to pan out. And last week I was, you know,

573
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Speaker 4: saying sell high on Jamal Williams, and of course he

574
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 4: scores a touchdown on I think he had like seven touches.

575
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 4: So I'm sticking with him this week. It's it's more

576
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 4: of my cell high theory on him, where yeah, he's

577
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: playing you know roughly you know, forty to fifty percent

578
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 4: of the snets, but he's just not seeing as many

579
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 4: touches as you'd want, you know, for him at least

580
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: keep this up. So he's benefited a lot from touchdowns lately.

581
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Speaker 4: So I just think, you know, one of these weeks

582
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: when he doesn't score. It could be this week you're

583
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 4: going to be holding the bag on you know, like

584
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: a thirty to forty our game, And I'm just saying,

585
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 4: you know, at fifty two hundred, I just don't think

586
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: he's worth that in season long leagues with you know,

587
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 4: six teams on a buy, I do him as more

588
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: of a good flex play, and you know, you want

589
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: him on your team because if Aaron Jones ever goes down,

590
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 4: you know, he's a potential RB one. But I just

591
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: think that, you know, I think it's five touchdowns last

592
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 4: four games and he's averaging eight point five touches, So

593
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 4: I just don't see this being sustainable. So I'm just

594
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, sell high if you can. If you

595
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: haven't the season long.

596
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, it's just kind of a touch hedge

597
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 5: this week. The Panthers do allow a lot more fantasy

598
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 5: points on the ground than through the air. But like

599
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 5: you mean, he's been very touchdown alight, and his hot

600
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: streak basically came while Davante Adams was out, and you know,

601
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 5: the Packers receiver corps was this in total disarray. Now

602
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 5: Davante's back, Alan Lazard maybe kind of emerging from the

603
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 5: Pack behind DeVante. So I just think maybe with the

604
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 5: Packers target totem poles, so to speak, kind of becoming

605
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 5: more settled, that that hurts Tamal Williams too. But yeah,

606
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: he's clearly just going to score two touchdowns this week.

607
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 5: So we're kind of donkeys.

608
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 7: So I mean, if you take them, if you take

609
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 7: out because he played one game where he got popped

610
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 7: in the in the helmet, I think it was a

611
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 7: primetime game and he left after like like one or

612
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 7: two snaps.

613
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was Thursday night football.

614
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you factor that out, I mean, it's not

615
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 7: a big discrepancy the usage in terms of like like that.

616
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 7: I feel like the touches regress to the snaps more

617
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 7: than the other way around. So Jones to me, would

618
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 7: be seemed to be more of the guy due to

619
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 7: regress because he was getting all these like, you know,

620
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 7: six seven eight catch games with Davonte Adams out he

621
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 7: you know, he last week he got was eight carries

622
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 7: for thirty yards on fifty nine percent of the snaps,

623
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 7: and Williams played forty six got eight opportunities as well.

624
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: So I mean it's you know, it's really a toss up.

625
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 7: But I mean, I'd almost look at the opposite where

626
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 7: you could get Williams a lot cheaper and you could

627
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 7: get a lot more for Jones.

628
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Speaker 1: Clearly, you are relatively high on Jamal Williams, starting him

629
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Speaker 1: number one overall in surprise this week, relatively on ah Man.

630
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 7: I mean Pat took the guy who was gonna mention,

631
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 7: But Lashawn McCoy, I just don't like again, he played well.

632
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: I didn't say anything about him, So you you fill

633
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 5: a sin on why we are fading.

634
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 7: Him because he played six snaps last Like, I mean,

635
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 7: he could come through and play you know, seventy five

636
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 7: percent of the snaps next week. But you just don't

637
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 7: want to really get involved in a backfield like this. Also,

638
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 7: Tennessee kind of sets up as a in theory, at

639
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 7: least as a pass funnel. Now Andy Reid does well

640
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 7: to pass the ball, and Tennessee is top three and

641
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 7: run they Voa and bottom twenty in past Dvoa.

642
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: All right, Sean, give us the running back prop. So

643
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this prop for ten weeks. Now,

644
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: let's do a Kareem Hunt total rushing plus receiving yards

645
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: this week at home against the Bills.

646
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: I have it right now at forty one and a half.

647
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: I'll take the under. I think there's some offensive ineptitude

648
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: that comes into this anyway. And then Nick Chubb is

649
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Speaker 1: a guy that is just kind of dominating right now,

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Speaker 1: first came back and might want to kind of like

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Speaker 1: ease him in a little bit. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: a bad mind. I'll take the under.

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Speaker 7: I'm actually I was going to go under, but I

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Speaker 7: just thought about it, and like you say it all

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Speaker 7: the time, Friedman coaches don't always act rational. And if

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Speaker 7: there's one coach I think could act irrationally and just

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Speaker 7: completely give Kareem Hunt way more that he deserves at

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Speaker 7: the expense of Nick Chubb, it's Freddy Kitchen.

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Speaker 1: So give me the over, fair enough.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the under just because Chubb has been

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Speaker 5: the loan. He's like the definition of loan right spot

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Speaker 5: for the Browns. But I was saying the same thing,

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Speaker 5: Ray Bounds. This is like a truly desperate team. You know,

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Speaker 5: Freddy Kitchen is like a cornered animal at head coach basically,

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Speaker 5: and I could see him taking a desperate action of

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Speaker 5: you know, kind of randomly featuring cream Hunt. So that

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Speaker 5: would be in the back of my mind if I

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Speaker 5: was actually putting money on this. But I'll stay conservative

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Speaker 5: and take the under and just bet on Freddy Kitchens

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Speaker 5: being rational and continuing to feature his loan right spot,

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Speaker 5: even though again he's probably just gonna go crazy and

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Speaker 5: not do that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Sean, So I guess that means that's probably

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Speaker 1: a pretty good line that you said there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, ultimately, this, ultimately, this is how much will

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Speaker 4: impact net Chubb. So yeah, great answers, and yeah, I

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Speaker 4: agree with basically what you guys said.

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Speaker 1: Joining us to talk some DFS is Peter Jennings ak

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Speaker 1: as Here, two time DFS World champion and co founder

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Speaker 1: at Fantasy Labs Pete. Week nine, How was it for you?

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Speaker 5: We kind of went really well.

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Speaker 6: I wish I had more of my cash game stuff

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Speaker 6: and big tournaments, but the chalk hit and that worked.

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Speaker 1: Out for me, all right. Week ten, How are you

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Speaker 1: approaching cash games and GPPs?

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Speaker 6: It's probably my favorite week of the year with all

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Speaker 6: the matchups that we have. I think there's a ton

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Speaker 6: of directions you can go with a couple of plays

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Speaker 6: that are just really high equity.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 6: I think you can build just the teams that you

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Speaker 6: think are best because there's so many great options.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start doing that. At quarterback, who has

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Speaker 1: caught your eye?

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Speaker 6: I'm going to be looking to three guys Specifically, I'm

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Speaker 6: looking at Lamar Jackson, who I think is the highest

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Speaker 6: equity play going on the road to Cincinnati, who's been

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Speaker 6: a dumpster fire even at seventy three hundred on Draft Kings.

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Speaker 6: I think he makes a ton of sense given his

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Speaker 6: rushing upside and floor love Jamis Winston versus the Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: And I also like Drew Brees quite a bit against

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Speaker 6: the Falcons. So three really strong options, all of what

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Speaker 6: you have to pay up for.

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Speaker 1: Not a surprise. As we are recording this, I am

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Speaker 1: writing the quarterback breakdown, and those are the three guys

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Speaker 1: who are really standing out in our models at Fantasy Labs.

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Speaker 1: At running back, Who do you like this week?

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Speaker 6: Well, the most important thing is going to be this

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Speaker 6: New York Jets situation. Recording this yere on Tuesday, so

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Speaker 6: tough to know what's going to happen with Le'Veon Bell,

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Speaker 6: but if he's out, that's going to open up a

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Speaker 6: lot of value monitoring time Montgomery, who also got hurt

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Speaker 6: as well, so.

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Speaker 4: A lot to monitor there.

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Speaker 6: But outside of that situation, Saquon Barkley is at the top,

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Speaker 6: I think I want to spend down, so I'm looking

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Speaker 6: to some other options. Kareem Hunt's min price coming back.

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Speaker 6: I know it's a tough matchup, but that's interesting to me.

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Speaker 6: On the other side of the ball, I like Devin

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Speaker 6: Singletary quite a bit, who I think is a really

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Speaker 6: really strong play. Alvin Kamara I think makes a ton

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Speaker 6: of sense at eighty two hundred. There's going to be

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Speaker 6: very little recency bias on Alvin Kamara, in fact none

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Speaker 6: coming off of buye as well as an injury, so

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Speaker 6: I think he'll be under owned relative to where he

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Speaker 6: should be in Atlanta has been so bad, so I

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Speaker 6: want to get to Alvin Kamara and we'll see what

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Speaker 6: happens with James Connor. Jalen Samuels would be another chocky option,

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Speaker 6: and my favorite running back on the slate is Marlon Mack.

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Speaker 6: Paired with the Colts defense, this is a dream matchup

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Speaker 6: against this Miami Dolphins team.

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Speaker 1: All right wide receiver, who do you got so wide receiver?

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Speaker 6: You're gonna be looking for some value.

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Speaker 4: The clear talk at the top is easy.

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Speaker 6: You got Michael Thomas, and then you have both Tampa

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Speaker 6: Bay receivers fors Arizona and Mike Evans and Chris Godwin

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Speaker 6: if you need to save, I think Jarvis Landry is

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Speaker 6: still a little too cheap. Both Carolina receivers are still

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Speaker 6: interesting to me, and Dj Moore and Curtis Samuel. And

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Speaker 6: then I also like Adam Humphries is a cheap play

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Speaker 6: at thirty five hundred going against the Chiefs if you

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Speaker 6: need to, you know, Super Savings as well as some

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Speaker 6: other mid tier guys like Tyler Boyd, Alan Robinson, even

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Speaker 6: Corey Davis I think is a strong play this week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tight end, who who are you looking at?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: Travis Kelsey I think is a really strong option, especially

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Speaker 6: if Mahomes comes back. We'll see about Michael Kasecki as well.

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Speaker 6: He's the chieap option that's in the models right now.

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Speaker 6: At a really big game last week, and with Preston

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Speaker 6: Williams out for the year with the ACL, you assume

752
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Speaker 6: some of the targets are going to flow his way.

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Speaker 6: Austin Hooper coming off a bye is another good play.

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Speaker 5: And then the.

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Speaker 6: Tournament option that has burned everyone all year and has

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Speaker 6: burned me in a big way, and every format is

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Speaker 6: OJ Howard. But going against the Arizona Cardinals, who have

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Speaker 6: been one of the worst teams versus the tight end

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Speaker 6: all year is another option that I'm really excited about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, total flow chart game there for OJ Howard. Final

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Speaker 1: question here, you mentioned Marlon Mack in the Colts as

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Speaker 1: a potential stack. Any other stacks have your eye? I

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Speaker 1: kind of like off the radar stacks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So Jamis Winston to OJ Howard is probably my

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Speaker 6: favorite stack of the week. I mean, everyone's going to

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Speaker 6: compair Jamis with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, which makes

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Speaker 6: sense even with OJ Howard. If you're to play Jamison tournaments,

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Speaker 6: you'll have to pick one of those two. But I

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Speaker 6: really love this stack, and I've been wrong all year,

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Speaker 6: so I certainly don't go overweight on it. But OJ Howard,

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Speaker 6: if you can't get done in this spot, it's officially done.

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Speaker 6: But I'm really hopeful that he can do well against

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Speaker 6: this Cardinals team, and I think you'll get that stack

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Speaker 6: at really low ownership.

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Speaker 1: All Right, that was Peter Jennings with his DFS thoughts

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the wide receivers. Pat the

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Speaker 1: guys we have at the top of our rankings right now,

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas going against the Atlanta Falcons, Michael Thomas at home,

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Speaker 1: and then you have I mean, I think maybe the

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Speaker 1: most dominant wide receiver duo we've had in at least

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Speaker 1: a decade, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin at home going

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Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. Who would you put in the top

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Speaker 1: three If not those three guys, I think.

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Speaker 5: I would include Tyreek Hill in there with Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 5: coming back and against this Yeah Titans, Uh you say

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Speaker 5: the Titans that were coming past Funnel earlier. Did I

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Speaker 5: hear that correctly? Yeah, which is what kind of had

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Speaker 5: been my just feel about diving too deeply into the

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Speaker 5: numbers this week, and especially now with Malcolm Butler out.

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Speaker 5: But is Tyreek stay at afloat with Matt Moore is

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Speaker 5: finally getting his like his sea legs underneath him for

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Speaker 5: the season. You know, he missed so much time and

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Speaker 5: now he's getting back his nuclear weapon quarterback Where I

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Speaker 5: could I definitely think Tyreek belongs up there. I wish

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Speaker 5: we could put Julio John's up there. I guess we

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Speaker 5: just can't with and disarray Falcons against Marshawn Latimore on

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Speaker 5: the road. I kind of wish we could almost put

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Speaker 5: Cooper Cup in the mix too, but that just doesn't

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Speaker 5: seem wise against the Steelers with road goff. But yet

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Speaker 5: to me, Thomas, Tyreek and Evans are the top three

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Speaker 5: this week?

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Speaker 1: All right? Who else are you relatively high on?

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Speaker 5: The forty nine?

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Speaker 4: Ers?

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Speaker 5: Were so desperate for a number one receiver and a

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Speaker 5: man of standers. This probably shouldn't be your number one receiver,

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Speaker 5: But I mean he's now clearly forty nine or number

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Speaker 5: one receiver, and I think that's gonna be a weekly thing,

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Speaker 5: then funneling ten to twelve targets to him. They were

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Speaker 5: just so desperate to settle that receiver corps. A game

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Speaker 5: that could be I don't even know if sneaky, I mean,

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Speaker 5: could be a shootout. We don't think of facing the

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Speaker 5: forty nine ers as a shootout.

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Speaker 1: Gain.

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Speaker 5: I could definitely see this kind of turning into a shootout,

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Speaker 5: and I just don't think it's point chase with the man.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna have Emanuel Sanders in the top eighteen this week,

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Speaker 5: do I don't know if I want to get a

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Speaker 5: eggs what I mean, Sammy Watkins, a Titans defense is

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Speaker 5: going more and more vulnerable to pass, and Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 5: coming back six teams on by I know for sure

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna have Sammy Watkins in the top thirty, maybe

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Speaker 5: in the twenty four to twenty eight range, and another

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Speaker 5: guy where I'm not quite sure what to do on

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Speaker 5: but someone has to catch passes they'll says Zach Pascal,

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Speaker 5: I probably have as a wide receiver three in the

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Speaker 5: top thirty six. So those are the guys who kind

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Speaker 5: of first came to mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think all of us a are roughly

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Speaker 1: there with you, you know, in line with those those

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Speaker 1: three guys, Sean, who are you relatively high on?

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Speaker 4: DJ Moore? I think is a bit under price at

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Speaker 4: fifty two hundred right now, he's due for a breakout game.

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Speaker 4: He's averaged nine a half targets the past four games,

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Speaker 4: scoreless is past five, So I think, you know, if

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Speaker 4: he's had some touchdown like we'd be considering more of

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Speaker 4: a mid range wide receiver two, which I think he is.

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Speaker 4: And then my DFS, you know, mid price flyer and

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Speaker 4: potential streamer. If you're in some wide receiver sixteen by

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Speaker 4: week emergency would be Russell Gage. We saw him sort

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Speaker 4: of take over that Mohamed's new role. He played sixty

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Speaker 4: percent of snaps, put up a seven fifty eight line

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Speaker 4: in week eight. He's a guy that might have been

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Speaker 4: a little bit over owneduced due to recency bias, but

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Speaker 4: I think because of the bye people completely forgot about him.

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Speaker 4: So if you're creating a team in DraftKings, you have

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Speaker 4: to spend down somewhere, and I think a week like

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Speaker 4: this taking him at thirty four hundred is a cheap flyer.

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Speaker 4: He seems like a pretty good play in that range

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Speaker 4: for me.

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Speaker 5: That's why you're the oddomaker, Sean, because I had devoted

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Speaker 5: basically no brainway yet to rush logauge this week, and

865
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 5: you're right for people are going to forget about it,

866
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 5: but you said, yeah, he kind of emerged there for

867
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 5: the Bys, So it's an excellent choice.

868
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: Raybond, Who do you like?

869
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 7: Chuster Rodgers is a guy if you want in a

870
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 7: tournament to get some leverage on the field, over Pascal,

871
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 7: who I think will be a lot higher owned Miami

872
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 7: has just been getting absolutely torched in the slot. So

873
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 7: Rogers at forty one k I think he'll go pretty

874
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 7: you know, almost non owned at all. And Christian Kirk

875
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 7: he's down at fifty two hundred, I think you know

876
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 7: he's it's kind of the same deal that that happened

877
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 7: with Lockett in Metcalf, but you know, Kirk's popping for me.

878
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 7: I'll probably have him ranked within the top twenty or

879
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 7: right outside it.

880
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: I think he's Kirk is gonna be.

881
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 5: Such a great. I don't know will he be a

882
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: kntrayer or will be almost more chalk, but he'll be

883
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 5: a great. After the huge stink bomb last week, Kirk's

884
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 5: gonna be a great.

885
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 7: Right still he has a twenty four percent target chair

886
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 7: leads the team, so that's always a good sign. And

887
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 7: DeVante Parker speaking of target share, you know Preston Williams

888
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 7: and him and Williams have been kind of splitting the

889
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 7: work as the top two targets there and now Williams

890
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 7: loss for the season, Fitzpatrick just throws it up to

891
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 7: Parker and you know he might drop some, but he

892
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 7: could approach a twenty five to thirty percent target chair

893
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 7: in this game against the Colts, it's probably him and Deseki,

894
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 7: So like Parker this week at.

895
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: Four y yeah, Parker getting a lot of air yards,

896
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: so a good situation for him. One guy I'm relatively

897
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: high on John Brown. You know they're playing at Cleveland.

898
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: One thing that surprised me is this year he's had

899
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: a surprisingly high yardage floor, like for a guy for

900
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: his career who's been a pretty volatile producer. This year

901
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: the production has really kind of even out. And another thing,

902
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward since his return from hamstring injury, has not

903
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: been shadowing. They've just been using him specifically on one

904
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: side of the field, which means that John Brown is

905
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: going to be running you know, probably most of his

906
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: routes against rookie cornerback Greedy Williams, who has potential but

907
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: at this point is still a guy who's making like

908
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: his fifth NFL start. So I think it's a good

909
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: situation for John Brown. However, Sean, you disagree with me

910
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: a little bit, so I want to hear your side

911
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: of this. Why are you relatively low on Brown?

912
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 4: Yes, so I sort of agree with basically everything you said,

913
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 4: but for different reasons. I'm not low on him per se,

914
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: but I think at six K, you know, he just

915
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: doesn't fit into sort of you know what you're trying

916
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: to accomplish in dfs. Like you said, it's bizarre. I

917
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 4: don't know who this guy is, but he's basically a

918
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: lock for five catches and seven yards with no touchdowns,

919
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: which is weird for him. So yes, yeah, basically he's

920
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: a high flour guy. We haven't seen much ceiling and

921
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 4: I'm just afraid we're more likely to see a floor

922
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 4: game from him than a ceiling game. If anything, there

923
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: was a stretch there. I was projecting Josh Allen for

924
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 4: over two hundred yards, which is really weird. But I'm

925
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 4: back to projecting Josh Allen sub two hundred yards now.

926
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 4: I just think that we have to be careful that

927
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 4: one of these weeks, you know, the bottom could fall

928
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: out of John Brown. And yes he's shown this high floor,

929
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: but I just don't see it. I mean at six k,

930
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: you know, the wide receiver position this week, the top guys.

931
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: You know, any guy seven and k above is under

932
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: price this week, and there's a lot of good cheap options.

933
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: There's a ton of value in the four k range.

934
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 4: So just a guy like Brown at six k you

935
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: might feel like you're locking in a floor, but there

936
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: hasn't been much ceiling. It just seems like fools golden

937
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: me this week. So I don't disagree with you. I

938
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: think you know, he's in my top twenty. I think

939
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 4: for different reasons though. He's kind of like a different

940
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: receiver than we're used to this year.

941
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been it's been strange because his career catch

942
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 7: y is is like fifty percent, or he came into

943
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 7: the year it's around fifty percent.

944
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: It's seventy percent.

945
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 7: With Josh Allen at quarterback, and his average jet of

946
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 7: target is still fourteen to five, so he's catching seventy

947
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 7: percent of balls from Josh Allen, Like, I don't know

948
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 7: what to think.

949
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: Is he gonna regress? Is he is he about to

950
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: blow up?

951
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 5: Like he might just know totally nuts?

952
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you No, it's it's it's peculiar. It's absolutely peculiar.

953
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: All right, rhtopat, who are you relatively long again?

954
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know. I'm assuming the consensus will

955
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 5: be quite low on this guy, but it's time. I'm

956
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 5: basically holding like a fantasy funeral for Tyler Boyd, who

957
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 5: is still top ten and targets even though the Bengals

958
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: have already had their bye. But you know, all the

959
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 5: obvious reasons. We have a quarterback kind of a game

960
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 5: managing quarterback making his first career start, we have an

961
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 5: all pro type talent making a season debut, we hope,

962
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 5: and AJ Green they're just weird target going on even

963
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 5: before AJ Green came back, you know, Alex Erickson getting

964
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 5: more involved in autumn tate having like multiple ten target games,

965
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 5: and Tyler Boyd is always kind of like a high

966
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 5: floor type player. I just think the floor has been

967
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: kind of like cut out from underneath him and that

968
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 5: he's no longer even a wide receiver.

969
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 3: Three for me, even with six teams on Vibe.

970
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: When Tyler Boyd was getting targeted regularly, I still wanted

971
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: to fade him as much as I could. So now

972
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: this is just like my dream scenario where I get

973
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: to be as mean to him as possible. Yeah, so yeah,

974
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm there with you.

975
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 5: I would say one other name I threw out there,

976
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 5: maybe is I just I've had I don't know if

977
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 5: people are high on him, so I've already had a

978
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 5: lot of questions about him for some reason. It would

979
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 5: be Johns. I just don't know if I'm into playing

980
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 5: Jared Goff's number three receiver fill in number three receiver

981
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 5: on the road against the Pittsburgh Steelers. So it's another name, right.

982
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm gonna be buying in. I'm not

983
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 5: a heavy DFS player to begin with, but in the

984
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 5: limited lineups I do make, I don't think I'll be

985
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 5: playing Josh Reynolds. I don't think I'll be excited about Josh.

986
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: Reynolds, Raybond, who are you relatively low on? You know?

987
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 7: So I mentioned being low on Stafford, so naturally I'm

988
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 7: lower on Kenny Galladay and Marvin Jones again. You know,

989
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 7: they just had a couple of dream matchups back to

990
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 7: back defenses that offered little to no resistance throws to

991
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 7: the outside and to these guys, you know, Marvin Jones

992
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 7: are four touchdown game.

993
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 3: Gallady has been beasting, but Chicago.

994
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 7: Number two in the league in SEWIS fantasy points allowed

995
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 7: to wide receivers. They've given up only three scores all year,

996
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 7: and I think this is the time, you know, Galladay

997
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 7: at seven k on DraftKings, Jones at six point two,

998
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 7: that you know, there's more leverage in fading these guys.

999
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 7: They could easily end up with some volume, but if

1000
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 7: they don't get into the end zone, know it's not

1001
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 7: it's probably not going to pay off. I mean, I

1002
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 7: could see like a six for seventy eight game with

1003
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 7: no touchdowns or something like that for both of them.

1004
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 7: So fading those guys this week.

1005
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you.

1006
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 5: There.

1007
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: One guy I'm looking to get away from his DK

1008
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: Metcalf had a huge game last week, but this week,

1009
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, on the road, going against his strong secondary,

1010
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: you know, I think it will just be kind of

1011
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: easy for people to overweight what they've seen recently. So

1012
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I'll probably be staying away from him. Sean aj Green

1013
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: finally returns presumably returns this week, give us the wide

1014
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: receiver prop.

1015
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, he not only returns, but he has a rookie

1016
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: quarterback making his debut. So those are really tough projection

1017
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: to get right right now. So right now I have

1018
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: him at fifty three and a half receiving yards.

1019
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 7: Under tough, tough matchup, Baltimore getting out there at cornerback,

1020
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 7: you know, just rookie quarterback making his first start.

1021
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: It's just it's just a tough spot.

1022
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 7: And Cincinnati does have other guys that short area guys

1023
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 7: you could that the defense won't pay as much attention

1024
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 7: to that you can kind of dump it off to

1025
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 7: or give it to underneath.

1026
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be a struggle on

1027
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 3: as first game back.

1028
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: All right, full disclosure. In my current projections, I have

1029
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: them for the over, but I'm looking at this and

1030
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to adjust it down like as

1031
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: the week moves on, just based on on the tough matchup. Like,

1032
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect right now for the

1033
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: Baltimore secondary, given that they are now fully healthy. So yeah,

1034
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under there.

1035
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 5: I would take the other two. It's not only a

1036
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 5: rookie quarterback making his debut. I mean, I'm assuming Ryan

1037
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 5: Finley and AJ Green have zero reps ever together in

1038
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 5: practice or even mini camp. I kind of doubt Ryan

1039
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 5: Finley's ever even thrown a past Aj Green As far

1040
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: as yardage, I think I feel pretty safe taking the

1041
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 5: under on Sean's over under.

1042
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean over under. How many words has Aj Green

1043
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: spoken to Ryan Finley before this week? Ten that even

1044
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: fills high That's a.

1045
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 5: Very interesting prop. Set it a twenty four point five.

1046
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 5: I take the under.

1047
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I doubt that they have any chemistry

1048
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: at all. Let's go to the tight ends, the guys

1049
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: at the top of our rankings, Travis Kelsey, George Kittle Hunter,

1050
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: Henry pat What are your thoughts on those three?

1051
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 5: Those are the three? They're the three this week. I

1052
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 5: don't think I could. I'm not going to jam Austin

1053
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 5: Hooper in there. I mean, even though Austin Hooper, I

1054
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: think it's weird because Austin Hooper was already such a

1055
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 5: high floor in theory. Mohammed Suanu leaving like increases his

1056
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 5: floor even more. But I just don't know how how

1057
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 5: much higher Austin Hooper's floor could even.

1058
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Go, all right, who else are you relatively high on?

1059
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 5: So bad? Outside the top eight or nine, the Vikings

1060
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 5: have to throw to someone. I'm gonna I have Kyle

1061
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 5: Rudolph as the tight end twelve right now, which makes

1062
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 5: me hate life. I'd rather bet on Kyle Rudolph than B. C.

1063
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 5: Johnson or La Kwan Treadwell. The Cowboys have been like

1064
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 5: bottom thirteen or fourteen in terms of tight end points allowed.

1065
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 5: Leyton Vandersch uncertain timeline with the neck injury. I think

1066
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: the Vikings will have to throw a little bit on

1067
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: the road. I have Ky Rudolf's the Titan twelve this week.

1068
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: You know you are you are in the double digit

1069
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 1: weeks When you're talking about Kyle Rudolph as the number

1070
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: twelve tight end.

1071
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 5: I'm doing my deep dive tonight and I could be like, wow,

1072
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: I really wish I had not said that.

1073
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: On the podcast, But yeah, another guy to where it's

1074
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: just like, man, I can't believe we're talking about him,

1075
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: but this could actually could be a good thing. Mike

1076
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: is Sicky, you know, a potential Leyden really athletic tight

1077
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: end who entered the league last year disappointed in his

1078
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: first year. He is disappointed for a chunk of his

1079
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: second year, but it seems like he's starting to come on. Sean,

1080
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: what do you see in him?

1081
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 4: You know, he's coming off his career best game six

1082
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: catches for ninety five yards. He's thirty one hundred this

1083
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: week on DraftKings, So you know, last week it was

1084
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: fun having no offense go off at three K. I

1085
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: think that's that's what you gotta do it, tight end.

1086
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: Either take one of these studs or you spend down

1087
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 4: at three K. You don't even mess with the middle

1088
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 4: tier guys, So sicky at three point one K. With

1089
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 4: Preston Williams out for the year, he could I think

1090
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 4: he'll be at least the number two going for but

1091
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: he could be the number one option some weeks as

1092
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: long as Ryan Fitzpatrick is QB. I think he has

1093
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 4: some upside as soon as they switch. If they switch

1094
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 4: back to Josh Rosen, I think that could negatively impact him.

1095
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: But I think Gasicki and Fitzmagic have some chemistry going on.

1096
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: So love him this week, especially at the Colts, you know,

1097
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 4: who play more of his own du he's I have

1098
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 4: him pegged for about eight targets. I think he'll be

1099
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 4: open over the middle quite a bit. So yeah, I

1100
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: love him a lot. You know, he's my tight end eleven,

1101
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 4: which is weird to say. I never thought he'd be

1102
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 4: inside my top twelve this year, but that's what happens.

1103
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 4: We have sixteens on a buy as well.

1104
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean Raymond and I both have him

1105
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: at tight end twelve, so we're we're pretty much right

1106
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: there with you, Raymond, you know you are high on

1107
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: him as well. With your thoughts.

1108
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, that like tight ends against the Colts. You know,

1109
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 7: Sean hit on it, that Matt eber flu scheme. They're

1110
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 7: okay with giving up catches to the tight ends. They

1111
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 7: like they want to keep everything in front of them

1112
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 7: and Gasiki. You know, not only is Preston Williams out,

1113
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 7: Kenyan Drake has been traded. Uh, those guys are getting

1114
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 7: a substantial target share, you know, on the Miami Dolphins

1115
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 7: this year, Preston Williams had sixty targets, Kenyan Drake had

1116
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 7: thirty three.

1117
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 3: That's ninety three targets. Uh, you know that are that

1118
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 3: are gone.

1119
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 7: That's about a thirty five percent or so target share

1120
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 7: that the Dolphins are missing.

1121
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, because Sicky's at number two.

1122
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 7: I mean I go so far as to say, you

1123
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 7: the way lineup construction kind of breaks down.

1124
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: You might be able to use him in cash games.

1125
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: You know.

1126
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 7: It's like a tight end is the most volatile position.

1127
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 7: You want to kind of take as little risk as possible.

1128
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 7: Sometimes you get some studs in the other spots. So

1129
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 7: love Gasicky this week.

1130
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: All right, Pat, who are you relatively low on?

1131
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 5: It's gonna say, I'm all born to Josekee Tran too.

1132
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: I'm tight in thirteen. He's following kind of a standard

1133
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 5: breakout tight end trajectory with a lot a lot of types.

1134
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 5: They struggles, rookies and if the good matchup Preston Williams gone.

1135
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 5: Mike just said, let's call and get him in the

1136
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 5: top eight. Let's let's just stop beating around the bush.

1137
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 5: We got to get him in the top eight.

1138
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, that's oh man, I've been pronouncing it wrong

1139
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 7: this whole time.

1140
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 5: Okay, I say, Josecki. I don't know. Isn't that so

1141
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 5: weird you read a name like I've read Mike Chesecki's

1142
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 5: names name hundreds of times and I'm still not positive

1143
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 5: he says.

1144
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: He says it's gust SICKI how would he know how

1145
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: to pronounce his last name?

1146
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 5: Which tight end of my law? I'm low on every

1147
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 5: tight end?

1148
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: Basically? You know what weak this is?

1149
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 4: Right?

1150
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: It's the OJ Howard man.

1151
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 5: I heard be song about it. Sean, what are the like?

1152
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 3: What are the odds I know you do this?

1153
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 4: Like?

1154
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 7: What are the odds that OJ if he plays that

1155
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 7: OJ Howard is the te one overall.

1156
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: Six teams are on a buye so that helps. But

1157
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 4: you know a lot of the studs are still playing

1158
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: this week. We only lost I think Ertz from the

1159
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 4: top ten this week, so yeah, it's gonna be microscopic.

1160
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 4: You know, two percent or less for sure for t

1161
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: E one overall.

1162
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 7: You know, this is the time of the year where

1163
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 7: you got you gotta start fading these older guys a

1164
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 7: little bit, dude, Jimmy Graham, listen, he just hasn't shown much.

1165
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1166
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 7: Carolina seven few with Trantasy points allowed to tight end

1167
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 7: since week one. They've got given a one game with

1168
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 7: more than three catches, and it was George Kittle. Tyra

1169
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 7: Higbee caught four on him in week one, but you

1170
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 7: got twenty yards in a touchdown, So they still kind

1171
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 7: of limited his yardage. I just don't really see it

1172
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 7: as a smash spot, especially with Adam's back and Lazarre

1173
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 7: Valdez scantly. I mean, they have so many receivers that

1174
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 7: they could work in addition to the backs that Graham

1175
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 7: essentially anytime he's on.

1176
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: The field, it's probably the lowest priority. Like the last

1177
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: guy Aaron Rodgers looking at in the progression.

1178
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 5: Of Jimmy, Graham and Aaron Rodgers have zero chemistry.

1179
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: It makes Matt with Florid Aaron Rodgers look like Bonnie

1180
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 3: and Fied or something on.

1181
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: One of my favorite things this year is watching Aaron

1182
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: Rodgers reaction after incompletion of Graham. I mentioned this a

1183
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 4: few weeks ago when Graham dropped that touchdown, Aaron Rodgers like,

1184
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: that was bad.

1185
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 5: That was bad.

1186
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 4: It's sort of like the if you ever watched The

1187
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 4: Office Jim Helper when he looks at the camera, Graham

1188
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 4: was open for a deep touchdown and he threw a

1189
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: little bit over him and you know, Graham couldn't catch up.

1190
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: And then just seeing Aaron Rodgers look at the camera like.

1191
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 5: I love.

1192
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 4: It's something you just have to go back and watch.

1193
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 4: Just walk com just reacity.

1194
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 7: Just I love how you phrased it too, Like Jimmy

1195
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 7: Graham was open, Like he didn't get open, he just

1196
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 7: happened to be open because the defense probably gives it

1197
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 7: no fucks about covering.

1198
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 4: One of the most hilarious things to kind of look

1199
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 4: out for going forward.

1200
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: The Rogers Gram relationship is like a rom com where

1201
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: you can just tell that the leading actor and actress

1202
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: hate each other and they have to tolerate each other

1203
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: for ninety minutes of a movie. That's what it's like

1204
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: watching them play together.

1205
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 5: My favorite Graham Rogers target, I believe it was against

1206
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 5: the Raiders. It was maybe a a Lion's where again

1207
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 5: he happened to be open and Aaron Rodgers threw the

1208
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 5: ball and it just hit him in the back. He

1209
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 5: was like, why it open on the sideline, like knowing

1210
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 5: around him the ball has hit him in the back.

1211
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 7: Jimmy Graham's like playing Madden when when like you have

1212
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 7: two controllers and somebody gets it what walks away and

1213
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 7: He's like, you're just throwing to an idle controller, Like

1214
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 7: that's Jimmy Grant.

1215
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: Sean hit us with the tight end prop.

1216
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 4: The tight end prop. This week is who will have

1217
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 4: more DK points, Mark Andrews or Hayden her So Nick

1218
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: Boyle combined, that's.

1219
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: A good one. Mark Andrews.

1220
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the spot for Mark Andrews.

1221
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 7: I think the Patriots, you know, that was going to

1222
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 7: be a tough matchup for They were going to pay

1223
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 7: attention to him. But Friedman, you've talked about this, Like

1224
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 7: the Bengals, you just have no winebackers. They really have

1225
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 7: nobody on defense that can cover anybody. So Mark Andrews

1226
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 7: will get open. Unlike Jimmy Graham. He will get to

1227
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 7: open this week, and I expect I actually have him

1228
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 7: at number five, so I'm expecting a big week.

1229
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 5: And they're going to go with the other side of

1230
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 5: the problem that they're They're getting the three headed monster

1231
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 5: REVD back up at tight end and they seem like primed,

1232
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 5: like feed us a lot of sadness down the stretch.

1233
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 5: So I think and Boyle are going to outpoint Mark

1234
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 5: Andrews this week.

1235
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 4: Andrews played thirty four percent of the snaps, which is

1236
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 4: blow Hurst and Boyle played eighty four. He's typinitely gonna

1237
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: to block. But yeah, it's just one of those things

1238
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: where you don't want to see that if you're An

1239
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: Andrew's owner. But I agree. I think talent wise, he's

1240
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: still you know, top five, but it's just something to

1241
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 4: look for.

1242
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: All right, Let's close this out by hitting the Twitter

1243
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: fantasy questions, Pat starting with you. This is from TD Marcus.

1244
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: Is Mike Evan's a Hall of Famer?

1245
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 5: I think he should be, but that he won't be

1246
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 5: because the log jams so said to get even bigger,

1247
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 5: and I think it'll be held against him that he

1248
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 5: was on bad teams with mostly bad quarterbacks, even though

1249
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: that should be a point in his favor. I just

1250
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 5: think he won't be thought of as like a winning player.

1251
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 5: Quote unquote Sean. This is from cap Calculator. Is anyone

1252
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 5: on the Dolphins startable following the Preston Williams injury news?

1253
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think DeVante Parker he could be a wide

1254
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 4: receiver three potentially going forward. But you know, with him,

1255
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: anytime we buy back in on him, he usually falls

1256
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: off the face of the earth. But I think right

1257
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 4: now he's a wide receiver three this week. And then

1258
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 4: Mike Jasiki, who we talked about earlier, he gets a

1259
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 4: bit of a boost. Anita a tight end this week,

1260
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 4: he's a stream able tight end.

1261
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: Chris. This is from James Thompson. What do fantasy football

1262
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: owners do with players like Tarret Cohen and Larry Fitzgerald?

1263
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: Are they droppable?

1264
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: It really depends on your league side.

1265
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 7: So I think Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald you're going to be around,

1266
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 7: you know, just outside the top thirty wide receivers. I

1267
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 7: have him thirty two this week, might move him up

1268
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 7: based on the matchup. Coen sayme, thing is usually going

1269
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 7: to be in that running back thirty to thirty NGE.

1270
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 7: So that's a valuable like flex to have on your

1271
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 7: bench and a twelve teamer. But if you're talking like

1272
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 7: a ten or and eight teamer, then there probably is

1273
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 7: somebody that you might need a little bit more.

1274
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: So it really just depends, all right, Pat, thanks for

1275
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: being on the show. What content should people check out

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Speaker 1: at road a World?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I was saying that should check out

1278
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 5: my rankings, but we got the Odds maker and we got

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1281
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Speaker 3: Has really been rocking our Waiverwired.

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Speaker 1: going to do it for this episode of the Action

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.