Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Danny Um. So, if you and I
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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Everyone? Cocome to another episode of Nerdificent.
Speaker 1: I am one half of your host if you wa way,
Speaker 1: but sitting across from the digital space for me via
Speaker 1: zoom is Danny Fernandez. I'm here. Yeah, you're here. I
Speaker 1: made it. Get used to it. You know, I could
Speaker 1: be doing it. I could be really busy. My schedule
Speaker 1: could be packed. You don't even know. Yeah, oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: People don't know. I've been doing these zoom calls, been
Speaker 1: streaming podcasting, you know, all the all the EANs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been subscribing all the stuff different YouTube channels. You know,
Speaker 1: why are you blushing? Why are you blushing different fans.
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm an if there's like a
Speaker 1: power user, uh, I think I'm gonna get it very soon.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think I'm gonna be a power user, being
Speaker 1: the nerd that I am. I got a bunch of
Speaker 1: badges on Audible that I'm very proud of. I have
Speaker 1: like twelve badges I went in there. You know, I'm competitive.
Speaker 1: It's like one of them was like listening to three
Speaker 1: books in twenty four hours. It was like sick. Nobody
Speaker 1: should be rewarded for this. You love books? No, No,
Speaker 1: they're taking it back. They saw that episode of twilight
Speaker 1: Zone and they said, no, books are tight. No for me,
Speaker 1: it's because I don't like being alone with my thoughts.
Speaker 1: So I just like, like I said, have Tan France
Speaker 1: just like telling me about his life in the background.
Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, how's it going. I'm gonna tell I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talk to you talk that talk, king talk that talk.
Speaker 1: Oh well, today we're talking about something that is that
Speaker 1: is that is deep to me, that is that is wonderful.
Speaker 1: Uh deep in my heart been been so moist in it.
Speaker 1: And you know it seems like within this there's been
Speaker 1: warren factions. You know. There there's been lots of haters
Speaker 1: talking about my commitment. Uh and I and I think
Speaker 1: we should bring on a hater to to even talk
Speaker 1: about this. This is a writer of of of do
Speaker 1: or do we say it now? Well? You tweeted it
Speaker 1: writer on she hulk uh podcast producer extraordinaire produced all
Speaker 1: types of your faiths. We're talking about scam goddess we're
Speaker 1: talking about yo? Was this racist, non NonStop smack talker online?
Speaker 1: People wonder if this man is my friend or my enemy?
Speaker 1: And that's why we call him my friend of me?
Speaker 1: Cody Zigla, Wow, you set me up for such a
Speaker 1: You really set me up to come in here as
Speaker 1: a villain. See, this is why, this is why I
Speaker 1: can't mess with you. I'm the number one sweet boy
Speaker 1: you come when you're talking all this time? Well you
Speaker 1: you are who knows you as sweet? Because if people
Speaker 1: know you only from my reply, thank you Ny Salt
Speaker 1: Salt God spice king over here with the with the
Speaker 1: with the spice special zig has to put up with
Speaker 1: me and his d m s being like this guy
Speaker 1: didn't reply to my thirst trap. Look, Zig's out there,
Speaker 1: he's there listening to us. He's there helping us build
Speaker 1: our gun. Plus he's there. You know, I'm nice. I
Speaker 1: know that you're just saying these things because you're coming
Speaker 1: from a place of hurt if he but I want
Speaker 1: to know that I see you, King, and I love
Speaker 1: you King, even when you try. Oh this is what
Speaker 1: a reversal revers Kane came with the energy and flipped
Speaker 1: it on me like some straight up uh yeah no.
Speaker 1: So you know, you know, we have this delicious, delicious intro.
Speaker 1: I wanna I wanna go through and then we'll talk
Speaker 1: about what we're nerding about. But according to William Ashberg
Speaker 1: of The Diplomat and even of the nineteen seventies, if
Speaker 1: someone wanted to discuss popular Japanese culture, undoubtedly the conversation
Speaker 1: would revolve around it's science fiction film icon, Godzilla no
Speaker 1: offense to the flying turtle Gamera and it's loyal legion
Speaker 1: of followers. But Godzilla films not only rule Japanese popular culture,
Speaker 1: but we're shown around the world to much acclaim and
Speaker 1: sometimes good natured Derision Today in two thousand sixteen, when
Speaker 1: one wants to discuss Japanese culture, the topic immediately turns
Speaker 1: to anime, and among the titles, none permeans Japanese society,
Speaker 1: like the franchise mobile suit Gundam. Yeah yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: straight up facts, straight up facts. Yeah, you know, we
Speaker 1: had to put some respect on Gundam. You know, uh
Speaker 1: Cody for those none in Zoom wearing all black me,
Speaker 1: I'm showing my love. I'm paying my respects. You know
Speaker 1: where my anniversary guns. Wow, that is a tight that's
Speaker 1: a tight shirt. That was I was, I was, I
Speaker 1: was real happy with this one. Um, this is one.
Speaker 1: The new Gundam came out pretty hard. And then you
Speaker 1: know my unique Zaku, which was a good call. Zig
Speaker 1: was the one who said I should probably go for
Speaker 1: the zaku since I have enough Gundoms respect of my
Speaker 1: name king. Yeah, well look, you know I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: credit where credit is due. I can't hear Godzilla without thinking, Yeah,
Speaker 1: some folks are like, I cannot believe you said that,
Speaker 1: But me, Danny, I fully support that because I will.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm on the unpopular opinion side of I
Speaker 1: think that song slapped and there are a lot of
Speaker 1: things we were like an elementary school or middle school,
Speaker 1: like it was tight. Well, classic rockheads want to grow
Speaker 1: and be like I can't believe let Zeppelin shut up,
Speaker 1: come with top five Godzilla bangers. You heard it here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember I was doing um Hayleyman's scenes and Mannox
Speaker 1: this podcast about Godzilla and they're saying when they revealed
Speaker 1: the Godzilla design from that movie to Tohope, the company
Speaker 1: that does all the Godzilla, they said it was there
Speaker 1: was silence in the room for like five minutes. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's a very wild design. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean I haven't watched that movie recently, but I've watched
Speaker 1: it like maybe a year or two ago, and like
Speaker 1: all the decisions they make are like the most clichee
Speaker 1: American unculture things that you could make in a movie. Well,
Speaker 1: it's so funny because even with my problems with the
Speaker 1: newer Godzilla run, what made it better is the ability
Speaker 1: to let go. Is this idea because you know now
Speaker 1: that we're pushing into you know, nerd media being captured
Speaker 1: in in film, they've there has been this understanding of
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, the fans of this like it for
Speaker 1: a reason, will kind of still follow the blueprint, will
Speaker 1: still give weird studio notes like completely adding this human
Speaker 1: element to Godzilla, even though because you know, once again
Speaker 1: that same podcast, I said, most Godzilla movies follow like
Speaker 1: two simple formats. Either it's Godzilla versus another monster or
Speaker 1: Godzilla versus humanity, and and the Godzilla movies in America
Speaker 1: keep trying to combine those two things, but those are
Speaker 1: two separate movies. If you want this human element, you
Speaker 1: have to have it. And the problem too is America
Speaker 1: has a vin Diesel contract with all their movies. For
Speaker 1: for for people who do not know what I'm referencing,
Speaker 1: is it's it's a rumor that in Vin Diesel's contract,
Speaker 1: he can never lose a fight if he's in a movie. Uh,
Speaker 1: And that's that's the same thing as in American movies.
Speaker 1: We can never just loose, like we have to win,
Speaker 1: and we have and I mean there's an arguments of
Speaker 1: that where it's like you don't want to be hopeless,
Speaker 1: but like considering that Godzilla is this allegory for the
Speaker 1: atomic bomb, you would see why it is this devastation
Speaker 1: and kind of surviving the devastation and not beating. It
Speaker 1: is the the through line of the movie. But I
Speaker 1: mean this is not the Godzilla episode. This is the
Speaker 1: gunplay episode. Not to not to stay on this tangent
Speaker 1: one second longer, though, did you watch shin Godzilla? Did you?
Speaker 1: Did you have it right here in my DVD, my
Speaker 1: Blu ray. I think I think what I enjoyed most
Speaker 1: about that one is that like Godzilla was true be
Speaker 1: frightening again because it was such they take such a
Speaker 1: like biological approach to like making it work. But also
Speaker 1: the way that the human element for that movie was
Speaker 1: just the bureaucracy of being in government was such a
Speaker 1: very funny. It's such a funny, unique perspective to take on.
Speaker 1: Like usually what you see is like it's a it's
Speaker 1: like a guy and his family trying to come together. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it's just like ways and ways of Japanese bureaucracy and
Speaker 1: politicians trying to like trying to grasp the situation that
Speaker 1: they're wholy have their depths on. Very funny and also
Speaker 1: like that inning was just terrifying and frightening. Also just
Speaker 1: how they view us, which is hilarious. Like Americans, I'm
Speaker 1: always like please drag us. Please just continue to drag us.
Speaker 1: We deserve it. There's just one funny part where they
Speaker 1: they have like a map like these are the places
Speaker 1: like that they're gonna bomb, like Japan, like this Japanese city,
Speaker 1: and like they have like an American map, and it's
Speaker 1: just like all of the city is just blown up
Speaker 1: like on the American map. Like they're waving to just
Speaker 1: blow up everything. That that sounds about right, uh, but
Speaker 1: a mobile suit. Gundam was developed by animator Yoshi Yoshi,
Speaker 1: Yuki Tomino and a changing group of Sunrise creators and
Speaker 1: with the collective pseudonym of the series. Was originally entitled
Speaker 1: Freedom Fighter, gun Boy or gun Boy for the robots
Speaker 1: gun with boys the primary target demographic. The team combined
Speaker 1: the English word gun with the last syllable of the
Speaker 1: world word freedom to form the portmanteau Gundam, and Tomino
Speaker 1: changed it to Gundam because it was spelled gun d
Speaker 1: o m uh, and they changed it to d a
Speaker 1: m suggesting a unit wielding a gun powerful enough to
Speaker 1: hold back enemies like a hydraulic dam holding back water.
Speaker 1: And I think that was a great, great, great switch up.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I would feel telling people like
Speaker 1: you gotta come check out my gun boys. There's no
Speaker 1: way that there isn't a kid in Bama whose name
Speaker 1: is gun Boy Numboy, come over here, pick up his uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know we're gonna get deep into
Speaker 1: into Gundamn. It's history and all that. But but this
Speaker 1: is about gun Plow. But you can't have gun Plow
Speaker 1: without talking about Gundam. And we'll do Gundam is, so
Speaker 1: you can't do a Gundam episode. You have to choose, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know definitely gonna hit Iron Blooded Orphans, but
Speaker 1: then we gotta hit you see, everyone's like you see
Speaker 1: if you keep you you see, there's some good stuff
Speaker 1: in there. Man. Oh yeah, No, I know there's some
Speaker 1: good stuff. I've been every it's so funny. You would
Speaker 1: think that, and this is a great transition into what
Speaker 1: we're nerding about right now. But you would think that
Speaker 1: with so much more time, it'd be easier to ingest
Speaker 1: more anime. But it's it's just no, I just find
Speaker 1: more dumb stuff to get into. Yeah, I finished the series.
Speaker 1: I finished. You ever watch Parasite The Maximum? Oh? It's
Speaker 1: on Netflix. I just started it. Yeah, I did that
Speaker 1: on Netflix like last week, and it's the first anime
Speaker 1: series I've finished, I think in like a year. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like episodes, like twenty episodes in and out,
Speaker 1: and like I just had it on the background for
Speaker 1: like three or four days. Like it's really honestly the
Speaker 1: first series I've finished in a very long time. I
Speaker 1: Mean there's just so every anime that someone wants to
Speaker 1: suggest to you as like to three episodes and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: short boys, Yeah, give me, give me them short boys.
Speaker 1: That's why I like that. My favorite is Gorn log
Speaker 1: On because that's twenty sins. It's twenty six and you're done.
Speaker 1: You know. If I tell somebody, yo, you gotta check
Speaker 1: out dB Z, they're gonna look at that episode listen
Speaker 1: to be like sir, but I'll tell you check out Gundam.
Speaker 1: I mean going log On, You're gonna check that out.
Speaker 1: The same thing. No, I was gonna say. Somebody on
Speaker 1: Twitter was asking like, hey, I want to get into anime,
Speaker 1: and I kid you not. There was people that would
Speaker 1: list like six different series like you gotta do one piece,
Speaker 1: gotta do one piece, gotta do attack On, And I'm
Speaker 1: like Hunter Hunter. I was like, literally, just give the man,
Speaker 1: like a movie or something did start with. I was like,
Speaker 1: I love, I responded, I said, I as an anime fan.
Speaker 1: I was like, I love the people that think that
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch your He's also a showrunner and like
Speaker 1: TV create. I'm like, these people are busy. Like I
Speaker 1: was like, I love the idea that you're going to
Speaker 1: watch six series that each have two hundred episodes. I
Speaker 1: mean that, yeah, yeah, I mean Hunter Hunter I think
Speaker 1: comes in at to something and that at this point
Speaker 1: in my life, the Hunter Hunters of them all seem
Speaker 1: way more digestible because you have people people are begging
Speaker 1: me to check out one Piece, some like it is
Speaker 1: on its nine hundred episode. I will start Naomi on
Speaker 1: one Piece so she can finish it when she graduates
Speaker 1: high school. That's like Simpson's numbers. It's like it's too
Speaker 1: much for my system at these days. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I think Hunter Hunter was like the last long series
Speaker 1: I was able to like watch and like stay president,
Speaker 1: but like that was like three years three or four
Speaker 1: years ago, when I like the sunder Owner, like the
Speaker 1: idea of starting a series that has more than thirty episodes, right,
Speaker 1: now fills me with such uh dread. Well. That's why
Speaker 1: I like doing Ginama because that one's like a three
Speaker 1: hundred boy, but it's like it's it's imagined like an
Speaker 1: anime version of It's always sunny, like it's just these
Speaker 1: three like and it will still have the anime elements,
Speaker 1: but since every episode is so self contained, you can
Speaker 1: just kind of take it piece by piece, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to sit down, because that's that's the trap,
Speaker 1: right is Like you watch and you get trapped in
Speaker 1: an arc and you're like, I gotta see how this
Speaker 1: wraps up, and then you're like, all right, cool, and
Speaker 1: then at the end of that arc they hit you
Speaker 1: with a cliffhanger. You're like, next, I will say. I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing that I also appreciate about most
Speaker 1: of the Gundham series is that they're not really longer
Speaker 1: than like twenty six I think even think the original
Speaker 1: Room was like forty episodes or something like that, like
Speaker 1: you Can, you Can. They're pretty digestible, especially like the
Speaker 1: series that I like, they're always they were like ov A,
Speaker 1: so like none of them went more than twelve episodes.
Speaker 1: What are y'all geeking out? About Okay, alright, So like, um,
Speaker 1: I'm restarting Avatar Glass Airbender. I watched the I re
Speaker 1: watched the pilot like I think two or three days ago,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh boy, I'm back in it.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm about to be sucked back into this world.
Speaker 1: And I know I'm gonna we watch the Legend of
Speaker 1: Chord too. It's like, I'm that's my main thing. Also,
Speaker 1: I've you know, this is the episode that we're talking about,
Speaker 1: but like gun Plaw, like I have been so into
Speaker 1: model making over the past seventy four days however long
Speaker 1: we've been in Quarantine. That's been like my there's been
Speaker 1: like my two main geeky things I'm getting back into.
Speaker 1: And also video gaming, like I've like I uh, there's
Speaker 1: this game called Predator Hunting Grounds that just came out
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and me and a couple
Speaker 1: of friends have been playing that game, and like I
Speaker 1: have been rediving back into just the Predator franchise, like
Speaker 1: I did like the Seven Days Stars free trial on
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime just to like watch Predator one and two,
Speaker 1: and like now I'm jumping over to HBO to see
Speaker 1: if they have like uh, like Predators from Robert Rodriguez
Speaker 1: and the Predators. Like there's been like my three main
Speaker 1: geeky franchises that I've been like doing deep dives back
Speaker 1: into love it. For me, this is relevant for all
Speaker 1: of us. Is uh Space Force dropped this weekend when
Speaker 1: this come out, and uh, some of our really great
Speaker 1: friends are in it. They I got to watch an
Speaker 1: early Uh I got to watch it last week and
Speaker 1: it's hilarious. Our friend Tawny, isn't it? Yes, my friend
Speaker 1: Roy Wood Jr. Which I literally screamed and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's my friend. And I like took pictures of him
Speaker 1: with Steve Correll and I sent it to him and
Speaker 1: he was like, how did you get a screener? And
Speaker 1: I didn't get a screener. I was like, Tonny, put
Speaker 1: my name in Ben Schwartz, who I adore. It's really great.
Speaker 1: Um obviously making fun of the whole idea of Space four,
Speaker 1: but a lot of good people that worked on this,
Speaker 1: so definitely check it out. That is what I'm geeking
Speaker 1: out about this week. And what about you, iffy Ah? Yeah. No.
Speaker 1: What what I'm thinking out about this week is the
Speaker 1: show that I've kind of jumped on I don't know
Speaker 1: if I talked about it on here yet, but I've
Speaker 1: really been enjoying it, which has been um good old
Speaker 1: uh Tower of God, which is a crunchy role original
Speaker 1: based off of a web tunes uh comic, and it's
Speaker 1: it's been good like after you know, it had like
Speaker 1: I had that startup being like, Okay, let's see what
Speaker 1: this web tunes anime guy, and now I'm like locked in.
Speaker 1: They have lots of fun characters, very diverse, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny when people just go and make
Speaker 1: their animals how diverse it can get. But uh, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm truly enjoying it. And outside of that, Valeriane,
Speaker 1: I've been playing lots of Valeriane, which if you if
Speaker 1: you don't know what it is, it's like counter Strike
Speaker 1: meets Overwatch. Very fun game, very frustrating game, as many
Speaker 1: teammates competitive games are. But that's been it, and you know,
Speaker 1: getting back into my workout regiment too, I did some yoga,
Speaker 1: you know, that was yo. Doing These yoga videos though,
Speaker 1: are always so funny because it always starts off being
Speaker 1: like okay, okay, cool, and then they'll just crank it
Speaker 1: to ninety with hard and and not even like not
Speaker 1: even like guide. You be like, okay, it's gonna get
Speaker 1: advanced of like okay, now we're gonna do this next pose,
Speaker 1: and then it's like the legs behind the head. I'm wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: what do we get to that I clicked? But yoga
Speaker 1: from beginners you I'm not beginning there. It's so I've
Speaker 1: never done out right yoga. They used to do it
Speaker 1: when I did, like karate and jiu jitsu, we would
Speaker 1: use it as like warm up and stuff. And honestly,
Speaker 1: nine times I'll attend yoga was way harder than anything
Speaker 1: we ever ended up doing in the and the actual classes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh man, people don't understand. They think that
Speaker 1: you need to have external weight, but just holding your
Speaker 1: body weight in your arms out in a pose and
Speaker 1: a squat positions like doing a wall essentially in a
Speaker 1: squat like position for two minutes sometimes is how long?
Speaker 1: Or you know, they'll even do it longer. We'll just
Speaker 1: burn your muscle like it just burns. Alright, well, let's
Speaker 1: jump right into it. So uh so we're talking about
Speaker 1: gun plaow today. H and gun play is short for
Speaker 1: gundam plastic models UH or Gundam plastic model UH and
Speaker 1: UH mobile suit. Gundam debuted in nineteen seventy nine, and
Speaker 1: the first gun play kits Uh, which came in at
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, So like right around it was. It's so
Speaker 1: interesting because that's not uncommon for it to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's a show, here's some toys, but they're like, no,
Speaker 1: here's some toys you can build um and uh and
Speaker 1: and the show was canceled. It was wild because the
Speaker 1: show was canceled after forty three episode. So the show
Speaker 1: was pretty much the show was far ahead of its time.
Speaker 1: And you know, just to do a brief kind of
Speaker 1: overarching synopsis of Gundam because pretty much every Gundam follows
Speaker 1: this formula to some degree. It's usually a political war
Speaker 1: drama like that is essentially what all Gundams are usually
Speaker 1: having to do with UH colonies versus earth bound. One
Speaker 1: is being oppressed by the other, and the Gundams are
Speaker 1: what they used to fight this oppression uh and and
Speaker 1: so I think, yeah, that might have been too deep
Speaker 1: for the eighties, but come around the nineties, we already
Speaker 1: in every which shape and form of that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean this the show like that I watched. I we
Speaker 1: watched the pilot recently, and it is such like I
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine being like a ten year old kid watching
Speaker 1: for the first time, because like in the first episode,
Speaker 1: like this, one of the main characters families just gets
Speaker 1: exploded by like a random rocket and then like the
Speaker 1: main character's dad gets sucked out into the space and dies,
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm supposed to like watch forty more
Speaker 1: episodes of this, this drama, this Game of Thrones with robots. Well,
Speaker 1: I remember when Gundam Wing was on too Nami and
Speaker 1: I just was like, um, cool, transformers, Like that's what
Speaker 1: I think I ever took anything away. I don't think
Speaker 1: I ever thought more about it when I was like
Speaker 1: in middle school. Oh yeah, no, you're You're totally right.
Speaker 1: I think on the surface, if you watch it, especially
Speaker 1: the way it was being advertised onto Nami, where it's
Speaker 1: like Gundam Wing these Gundhams are fighting each other and
Speaker 1: so it's really focusing on the action, but it takes
Speaker 1: a while. And I think that's why it took so
Speaker 1: long for me to get sucked in, because this is
Speaker 1: like teen dbz Ifee and I remember sitting down from
Speaker 1: Gundam wing, I'm like, they're doing a lot and fun
Speaker 1: and funny coming from a DBZ fan, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're doing a lot of talking and not a lot
Speaker 1: of fighting. So I'm a cop out. Ye, Like, at
Speaker 1: least at least my guys start fighting then talk and
Speaker 1: then they finished the fight. At least they charged with yeah,
Speaker 1: like I know the fights about to happen, where like
Speaker 1: there was just political discussion going on, just talking about
Speaker 1: the history of the relationships, and You're just like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I thought they said this was robots fighting. Uh
Speaker 1: so we're talking a lot about royal bloodlines in this
Speaker 1: TV show, can we get? But what's interesting about Gundam,
Speaker 1: which I which is the fun conversation to have about
Speaker 1: Gundam as a whole is like it is like synonymous
Speaker 1: to anime in general, Like you can't really think about
Speaker 1: anime without thinking of Gundham's. I would even post as
Speaker 1: far as some people don't even think about Japanese culture
Speaker 1: nowadays without thinking about Gundams. So I always saw the
Speaker 1: Gundam models, but I always was intimidated by it because
Speaker 1: I was in model, Like this was like doing gun plug.
Speaker 1: Now it's so funny because like I just kind of
Speaker 1: laughed at myself and being like this would have a
Speaker 1: thousand percent been my thing because I had these things
Speaker 1: called modifiers, which were these model uh these It was
Speaker 1: made by tech Deck and they were usually like tuner cars,
Speaker 1: so like a civic yeah those yeah, and you were
Speaker 1: supposed to use tools to take off and add body
Speaker 1: kits and like the air intake to it and like
Speaker 1: different seats. And I was so deep into it that
Speaker 1: I was buying the like Bondo and like trying to
Speaker 1: like use it and shave down. I wasn't that good.
Speaker 1: I didn't under like it's so funny because everything and
Speaker 1: you will if you look at any crafty online it
Speaker 1: pretty much everyone it's always presented as like and then
Speaker 1: this happened. And like as a teenager, as a teenager,
Speaker 1: when you're you're like, everyone's like, yeah, you just buy that,
Speaker 1: And then that's how I made this. They don't break
Speaker 1: down that. They like whittled down and shaped and made
Speaker 1: it into a custom body kit. Like they were literally
Speaker 1: like essentially clay modeling that and they so as a kid,
Speaker 1: like I bought it, I put it on my body
Speaker 1: kit and I was like this, this ain't the same,
Speaker 1: a little different but different, but like for me to
Speaker 1: be that involved that I went out and bought the
Speaker 1: tools I knew I would have been into, like panel lining,
Speaker 1: and that would have and I think it would have
Speaker 1: been way easier to digest than what I was trying
Speaker 1: to do with these Like I took I took the
Speaker 1: car a teenager put put my my popularity at the
Speaker 1: time online to take my car to my woodshop teachers
Speaker 1: so he can cut the top so it can be
Speaker 1: a convertible. And and like he cut it wrong because
Speaker 1: he didn't keep it like he didn't keep it on there.
Speaker 1: I was still I was kind of hurt, but but
Speaker 1: I was able to kind of like make it work.
Speaker 1: But like that's how deep into that I was that
Speaker 1: I was like Gundham, it would have been, it would
Speaker 1: been connected to anime. It probably would have lasted a
Speaker 1: lot longer than these wildfires. So yeah, it's it's great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the thing that I really enjoy about
Speaker 1: model building because like my dad didn't when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, like he should do like Star Trek and
Speaker 1: Star Wars and stuff, and like if you're like wait,
Speaker 1: we were pretty poor, would have a lot of money,
Speaker 1: so like like that being a creative outlet where like yeah,
Speaker 1: you spend twelve bucks and you can put get like
Speaker 1: a helicopter in your room and be creative without having
Speaker 1: to buy like you know, I guess you could buy,
Speaker 1: but like you need to buy like paint, you need
Speaker 1: to buy like glue. You can just like buy this
Speaker 1: thing and like create something in yourself by yourself and
Speaker 1: then like display it. Like I felt for me, like
Speaker 1: if I would have thought more about it, it probably
Speaker 1: would have been like a great creative outlet because um one,
Speaker 1: like like I did have access to like sculpting clay
Speaker 1: and like all that stuff like that, there's such a
Speaker 1: high bearer for entry for that type of like creative
Speaker 1: out create creative art form that like I feel like
Speaker 1: gunplot and just model making in general is like a
Speaker 1: very it's a very easy, in a very cheap and
Speaker 1: effective way to like sort of like scratch that creative
Speaker 1: um itch without having to put a lot of money
Speaker 1: into it personally. So every nearly every Mecca in the
Speaker 1: series was made into a model kit from mobile suits
Speaker 1: to support aircraft and space battleships. Parts came in up
Speaker 1: to three different colored spruce. These early kids lacked articulation
Speaker 1: in detail and required glue and paint to build and finish.
Speaker 1: The first gun club, released in July, Night costs just
Speaker 1: three yen or about three dollars. So it was like, uh,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it's like a babysitting tool. Just
Speaker 1: give it to your kids three bucks and like they're
Speaker 1: busy for hours. But actually, what age do you guys
Speaker 1: think this? Because I only know adults that makes model kids,
Speaker 1: you know, but I also don't know a lot of
Speaker 1: children being an adult. Well, that's what I was gonna
Speaker 1: say is and you you can let me know if
Speaker 1: you agree with this. I think anyone from if you
Speaker 1: can build, I feel like this if like this is
Speaker 1: comes after legos. And the only reason I'd say after
Speaker 1: is because there are a lot of small parts that
Speaker 1: like kids might have a little hard time. And also, uh,
Speaker 1: something not being mentioned here is the translation between these
Speaker 1: kids coming from Japanese to English. Sometimes it's just like
Speaker 1: you're looking, Yeah, you're looking at a picture and you're
Speaker 1: just having to use the best like i Q i
Speaker 1: Q test level images of like Okay, so it's saying
Speaker 1: it goes this way, scissors that are like not even
Speaker 1: facing towards it, and you're like, all right, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: But but I think one of the cool things is,
Speaker 1: like they mentioned, the first kits required glue and paint.
Speaker 1: These do not require glue and paint. You can have
Speaker 1: a decent figure without glue without like you put them together.
Speaker 1: All you need are nippers, which are kind of like
Speaker 1: they look kind of like plyers, but they're like little Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cody's about to show you his, he has his very near,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they're like little kind of clippers. And that's
Speaker 1: just to get them out of the runners and to
Speaker 1: kind of clean up because since these are plastic kits
Speaker 1: and they a lot of these kids are like filling
Speaker 1: into slots if they'll have if they have extra plastic,
Speaker 1: lots of times you have to trim it down and
Speaker 1: cut it, um, you know, cut it to just to
Speaker 1: make sure it's it's fitting better. But yeah, no, um,
Speaker 1: you can just kind of give it to someone and
Speaker 1: they'll look fine. And then like the next level up,
Speaker 1: which is like i'd say SIMI in intermediate or early
Speaker 1: like beginner part two is panel lining, which is where
Speaker 1: you're taking um, these these usually either a gun to
Speaker 1: marker or a kind of like oil very function. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and you just kind of are putting black paint or
Speaker 1: black or gray paint within the lines and cleaning it
Speaker 1: up so that you can so the details kind of pop. Well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, are y'all because I see um
Speaker 1: like our friend Joe Starr who's doing separately but doing
Speaker 1: different like model painting. Are y'all using those like little
Speaker 1: microscopes or whatever it is that I see in movies?
Speaker 1: Oh no, boy, I gotta tell you, uh no, I
Speaker 1: have not, but like so basing off the jumping off
Speaker 1: that they're like different tiers of difficulty for like model kits,
Speaker 1: Like I think they start like high grade and they
Speaker 1: go like master grade and inn real grade, like real
Speaker 1: grade being like one of the hardest, and like I
Speaker 1: just did one like two months ago, and I wish
Speaker 1: I had one because I got these big sausage fingers,
Speaker 1: like I can't grip these tiny pieces Like there are
Speaker 1: points where like you have to take off like the tiny, tiny, tiny,
Speaker 1: tiny like piece of um like clear plastics, so if
Speaker 1: you drop it, you're just never gonna see it again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like I wish that I had like one of
Speaker 1: those little microscripts, because like my hand was shaken, I
Speaker 1: was holding my breath, I was getting all sweaty like that,
Speaker 1: like that's that that's too much for my senses. But um,
Speaker 1: like to answer both of your questions, I think that
Speaker 1: like those sort of high grade stuff, I think if
Speaker 1: you're like basically can put together legos, you can put
Speaker 1: together like a high grade kid, But when it comes
Speaker 1: to like the real grade stuff, that, to me is
Speaker 1: it not nearly as fun because it becomes like work.
Speaker 1: You gotta like put together the elbow pieces and like
Speaker 1: make sure the internal structure works and stuff. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: also furthermore, they're like they're the same size as high grade,
Speaker 1: and with me, like I want a bigger boy. So
Speaker 1: like so it goes high grade, then master grade, which
Speaker 1: is bigger, and then you have the real grade and
Speaker 1: the perfect grades, uh, which I'm not even gonna think
Speaker 1: about perfect grade because I just Leaven looking at him like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be stressed out. But also like difficulty kind
Speaker 1: of ranges even within the levels, because like, for example,
Speaker 1: everything I've built has been high grade, but this guy
Speaker 1: right here, I'm holding up the Unicorn Banshee for those listening.
Speaker 1: It has so many like different like subparts within parts,
Speaker 1: so that this was this is my highly recommended If
Speaker 1: you're like you've done a few high grades and you're
Speaker 1: like you want to challenge before master grade, I highly
Speaker 1: recommend the Banshee um uh Banshee uh Unicorn Gundam because
Speaker 1: the way that it just kind of has so many
Speaker 1: It took so long, but it looks so much more
Speaker 1: dynamic than anything else. You have such a fun like
Speaker 1: sense of accomplishment when you make like anything with your hands.
Speaker 1: When like they go ahead and take the workout and
Speaker 1: make it a cool looking robot, it makes it seems
Speaker 1: so much cooler, like, yeah, I built that, I committed
Speaker 1: plastic to plastic. We have to take a really quick
Speaker 1: break and then we're gonna hop more into gun play
Speaker 1: right after this and we are back. We're still talking
Speaker 1: about gun plat. Wait, so, Cody, did you say your
Speaker 1: first introduction was it Gundam Wing or what What was
Speaker 1: your first introduction to Sundom. It was definitely like Gundam
Speaker 1: Wing was the first one I actually watched, um like
Speaker 1: I had sort of like seen them before just because
Speaker 1: like I was like you know, obviously like we're nerds,
Speaker 1: like we were online like looking at anime stuff. But
Speaker 1: I was the first one that I actually watched, and
Speaker 1: then after I watched Gundam Wing, I really got into
Speaker 1: uh the Universal Century, like the O G series. Like
Speaker 1: that's when like my personally, like my favorite series is
Speaker 1: uh um double O eight three Startus Memories, Like that's
Speaker 1: a great series. It's great animation. Uh the voice acting
Speaker 1: isn't as good, but there's some great animation. There's some
Speaker 1: really cool intricate designs, and like the first half of
Speaker 1: the series was really inspired by top Gun, So it's
Speaker 1: just like a bunch of like blurring eighties guitar rock
Speaker 1: over like people in Giant Robots just jumping out and
Speaker 1: hanging out in the distich. Is a really fun series.
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, speaking of how we all watch anime,
Speaker 1: shout out to the problematic girl on Twitter who said
Speaker 1: if he watched anime, he's probably gay, and I said,
Speaker 1: shout out to queer gay icon Samuel L. Jackson. I
Speaker 1: just hate all of those like fellas, if you microwave something,
Speaker 1: are you gay? Mad suspect taken nap, Yeah, you're taking
Speaker 1: nap I think the other one I saw the other
Speaker 1: day that had me dine was like, if I see
Speaker 1: two dudes eating breakfast, uh, then the name and then
Speaker 1: I'm I'm assumed they gay which all up so early
Speaker 1: together form like goodness, gracious, you have no friends? Uh,
Speaker 1: you have zero friends. No one wants to eat anything
Speaker 1: with you. Man, what I would not give to give
Speaker 1: a get breakfast with the homies right now? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: know every time I end up doing an episode like this,
Speaker 1: I end up almost buying something expensive. Uh yeah. I
Speaker 1: think my introduction to Gundam was the same as your standing,
Speaker 1: which is seeing like Gundam wing and it was the same.
Speaker 1: But the one that kind of really got me that
Speaker 1: I saw bits and pieces of was g Gundam because
Speaker 1: back then the idea of like operating the Gundam with
Speaker 1: your body versus like just the kind of like shifting
Speaker 1: gears type stuff was way cooler to me. But in
Speaker 1: the end, um, in the end, I think I didn't
Speaker 1: like fully go double feet in until like you know,
Speaker 1: I saw zig Zig was building it up and I
Speaker 1: was like that is like it's so funny, Like this
Speaker 1: has been the year of me like revisiting stuff that
Speaker 1: I was really into, or wanted to get into, because
Speaker 1: I think we're just stuck at home looking for things
Speaker 1: to do. But like I saw Zick building the Gundams
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, that's something I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to do but always seemed so difficult. Let me
Speaker 1: just grab it. And I think I went to the Gundams.
Speaker 1: It was when I went to see my friend Lisa
Speaker 1: and I was in um. I was in like, what's
Speaker 1: what's that west side place kind of by um Less whatever,
Speaker 1: I Sautel. I was in Saultel and there was that
Speaker 1: and one of those it was called like Tokyo something,
Speaker 1: and it had all these Gundams, so I um so
Speaker 1: I sent it to Cody and then I ended up
Speaker 1: getting Gundam for Cody. But then I ended up getting
Speaker 1: this little guy because I was like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to build one. I just want to get like a
Speaker 1: little chippy guy. You still had to build this. They
Speaker 1: give you Gundham, gives you nothing for you can't get it.
Speaker 1: I can nothing, No no free rides you got. So
Speaker 1: so after building that, I was like, Okay, I guess
Speaker 1: I can't. I'll build it, and then I think, um
Speaker 1: the second one I built was this pretty pretty dynamic
Speaker 1: h Gundham seed boy right here with wings. This is
Speaker 1: the and this one I got from game Stop. I
Speaker 1: was in Game Stop just kind of cruising and I
Speaker 1: saw this and it was so funny because this is
Speaker 1: I remember this. Actually, I know this was my first build.
Speaker 1: The reason I knew it was my first build was
Speaker 1: I was still writing on The Great Debate and I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, it'll be fun lunch activity to just
Speaker 1: crack this open and build it. And I opened it
Speaker 1: up and saw all the runners. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is not a lunchtime activity. I remember too, just
Speaker 1: to talk about how you are on that show, because
Speaker 1: like if You, which is coming out next month, um,
Speaker 1: I was on two episodes of it, and I remember
Speaker 1: I was writing jokes for my pit, like because I
Speaker 1: was about to compete and if He was like, oh,
Speaker 1: do you want to play a video game with me?
Speaker 1: I'm like, absolutely not. I'm about to go on air
Speaker 1: in front of a live studio audience, like I just remember.
Speaker 1: I immediately was like no and walked off. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, then me and Baron Von proceeded to play
Speaker 1: video games before he hosted that show and I wrote him, Yes, them.
Speaker 1: That was the funny thing because every time there's a
Speaker 1: nerdy show there there, they usually are like, here's a
Speaker 1: nerdy thing to do around it. And I remember UM
Speaker 1: when at Midnight bought an arcade cabinet and it was
Speaker 1: and they were like, uh they it was one of
Speaker 1: those multi ar game arcade and then we ended up
Speaker 1: ended up getting shut down because the crew kept playing
Speaker 1: it when they were supposed to be building set and
Speaker 1: so they're like, like, what about us, I'm not crewing.
Speaker 1: So mad I had something I wanted to bring up
Speaker 1: going back to the nick because I keep thinking of
Speaker 1: the name Gundam like a gun plat and gun boy,
Speaker 1: Like It's just fascinating to me. And one thing that
Speaker 1: it reminded me of is this cross culturally is the
Speaker 1: Iron Giant, which there's that scene where he was like,
Speaker 1: I am not a gun and he's like this massive robot,
Speaker 1: and so I just find it so fascinating the whole
Speaker 1: like culture and conversation around these essential huge b's being
Speaker 1: seen as guns and weapons. Yeah, it's funny because I
Speaker 1: feel like there is a lot of commentary and some
Speaker 1: of those mainstream series about UM, like one it usually
Speaker 1: has scenes that the perspective of like a fifteen year old,
Speaker 1: six year old kid, like a lot of it is
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be here in the first place.
Speaker 1: But also like there's a lot of questioning of like
Speaker 1: why do we even need these weapons in the first place,
Speaker 1: Like why do we need to have these these giants
Speaker 1: sixty ft tall invincible robots, and like what good does
Speaker 1: it cause, like because we're basically just in an arms
Speaker 1: race to make like every side, everyone is like spending
Speaker 1: all the resources and all their time and injury making
Speaker 1: these killer machines that aren't really doing anything to progress
Speaker 1: human civilization outside of killing each other. It's like that
Speaker 1: is a very interesting point bringing up um iron giant
Speaker 1: and and gun because I feel like there is this
Speaker 1: sort of through line when it comes to like what's
Speaker 1: the cost and like what's the what's what if we're
Speaker 1: the super advanced civilization where we have space fair like
Speaker 1: why are we still falling back to like genocide in
Speaker 1: killing each other and like more profiteering and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And also seeing it from a child's perspective or like
Speaker 1: a young person's perspective. Yeah, I mean that's what's also interesting. To,
Speaker 1: which is why I like, you know, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of Iron Blooded Orphans praise on here. Is
Speaker 1: because one of the main things about Gundam is usually
Speaker 1: it is like a child operating this. And Iron Blooded
Speaker 1: Orphan was the first one to be like, yo, this
Speaker 1: is kind of like child soldiers. Let's kind of look
Speaker 1: into that. And that's kind of the kind of the
Speaker 1: arc of Iron Blooded Orphans is like, oh, like using
Speaker 1: child soldiers, what what is the morals behind that how to?
Speaker 1: And what happens when they get the power back? What
Speaker 1: do they do with it? And it's this really beautiful
Speaker 1: story um, And that's the that's kind of just been
Speaker 1: the fun within Gundham because also one of the big
Speaker 1: things and Iron Blooded Orphans was that these Gundam's are
Speaker 1: actually in in in the Iron Blooded Orphans universe. There
Speaker 1: there these relics of this long war and they were
Speaker 1: and they were the weapons that were used to one
Speaker 1: the Gundam Barbados and the the arrival Gundam that pops up,
Speaker 1: and they were hidden away and it's as it's begging
Speaker 1: the question of like, oh, why did all of a
Speaker 1: sudden we outlaw these Gundams Now that the people in
Speaker 1: power or in power, and I feel like that's just
Speaker 1: an overall statement just as um world powers, you know,
Speaker 1: and how one really looks because when you do look
Speaker 1: at the major UH powers in in the in the
Speaker 1: UH in the world right now, and they're kind of
Speaker 1: being like, no nuclear weapons, and it's kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: y'all used them and one um and now you don't
Speaker 1: want us use them anymore. And even though I am
Speaker 1: also a huge proponent of like, yeah, no nuclear weapons,
Speaker 1: I could see why if you were someone who kind
Speaker 1: of seen the devastation of that and had it used
Speaker 1: on you, you might beg that question an anime form
Speaker 1: of being like, well, what's what's the science behind if?
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite things And I forgot
Speaker 1: which one of the last this most recent trilogy of
Speaker 1: Star Wars, but when Benicio del Toro's character was talking
Speaker 1: to John Bliega, I hope I'm not getting this wrong
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen in a while, but like speaking
Speaker 1: of what Zig was talking about with an arms race,
Speaker 1: where he was like, oh no, I'm selling them to
Speaker 1: both sides, and you like forget, it's like such a
Speaker 1: social commentary that you think you're the good guys and
Speaker 1: then you realize that you're you're using the same weapons
Speaker 1: as the other side. It's just so fascinating. It's from
Speaker 1: the best Star Wars would the Last Jedi. I think
Speaker 1: it's it's my favorite one because because they they added
Speaker 1: like you know that that's sort of like um Star
Speaker 1: was all about the black and white good versus evil,
Speaker 1: but like adding just a little bit of gray. Like
Speaker 1: this is how like a universe works. Like these ships
Speaker 1: just don't appear from the ethereal well, I guess they
Speaker 1: do in the last one, but like they don't just
Speaker 1: sort of appear like people have to like make these
Speaker 1: things and people have to pay for these things. I
Speaker 1: don't know, very nice like world building it and like
Speaker 1: a nice little depth to like a universe that has
Speaker 1: up un to that point been very like good versus evil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what was remember what your first model was, Cody
Speaker 1: H When I do it was, I was like I
Speaker 1: had just seen Gundam Wing. So I guess I was
Speaker 1: like fourteen and fifteen years old and I bought the
Speaker 1: Gundam Wing um the Wing zero, like that was the
Speaker 1: first Gumple I got, and like that was like you
Speaker 1: could like transform it. You go from like bird mode
Speaker 1: to like mobile suit mode, and then like I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything for like the longest time, Like I took
Speaker 1: like fifteen twenty years off. Like the only reason I
Speaker 1: got yeah, it was like, no, I put in my
Speaker 1: I put in my eight hours, I'm gonna retire. The
Speaker 1: reason I got back into it was because when I
Speaker 1: started she Hulk, like, um, like I would I would.
Speaker 1: I got back into video games just because I needed
Speaker 1: something to think about that wasn't superheroes are like writing
Speaker 1: or comic books. So like I got into like this
Speaker 1: game called Gundham Battle Operations, which was like a free
Speaker 1: game with a PS four, and like through that, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, Gundam was fun. I'll start watching Gunham again.
Speaker 1: And there's another writer on the show called zeb Wells
Speaker 1: who like was also in the Gumplow, and we just
Speaker 1: started talking about it. And then like through that, I
Speaker 1: somehow convinced if you to get me a Gundham and
Speaker 1: like it's just been like I just been diving back
Speaker 1: through ever since this boy understand you king, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like that's how I got back into it. And now
Speaker 1: that we've had nothing but free time for the past,
Speaker 1: like you know, thirty days or thirty days, ninety days,
Speaker 1: however long it's been, like it's just been a thing
Speaker 1: that's been keeping me saying like it's a creative a
Speaker 1: creative outlet that um, I don't have to necessarily like
Speaker 1: beat myself up about if I don't finish it when
Speaker 1: I'm doing it, you know. Yeah, And I think that
Speaker 1: one of the things that's fun about it too is
Speaker 1: the kind of like zenness of it, because you like,
Speaker 1: because you have to be so focused on these small
Speaker 1: pieces and followed direction, you you almost, um, if this
Speaker 1: even makes any sense, you have to let go. You
Speaker 1: have to you have to let go and let this
Speaker 1: project guide you. You you don't make the rules, you
Speaker 1: have to do it step by step, and it's so
Speaker 1: it just it's so good to just just not think
Speaker 1: follows step by step and build something beautiful. And that
Speaker 1: did uh speaking of that? That's sorready man to cut
Speaker 1: you off without that you made me think of Um,
Speaker 1: did either of you watch uh Six Days to Air
Speaker 1: that Jet the South Park documentary? Now? So it's just
Speaker 1: it's just about how they make an episode in six days.
Speaker 1: But there's this really really interesting part where I think
Speaker 1: Trey Parker. You go into his office and it's just
Speaker 1: full of like Legos and he's like putting together a
Speaker 1: Lego kit and they're like, why do you do this?
Speaker 1: He's like, one, Uh, it's just I. When I spend
Speaker 1: all day telling other people what to do, it's nice to,
Speaker 1: like one be told what to do. But also it's
Speaker 1: nice to like clear your thoughts and just sort of
Speaker 1: exist at the moment and just like read these instructions
Speaker 1: and know that after I do all these things together,
Speaker 1: no matter what, I'm going to have a piece of
Speaker 1: art that is nice and that like I didn't have
Speaker 1: to stress about it like that. That just reminded me
Speaker 1: of that. Um that's guess there's the there there's the
Speaker 1: truth to that, because yeah, that's exactly how I feel.
Speaker 1: The the nineties, we we get into um to to
Speaker 1: some some more kids. The kids essentially are following like
Speaker 1: most of the time, a different uh A series that's round.
Speaker 1: So like in the nine you have the round Vernie
Speaker 1: and v Fam series UH and that's the mobile suits
Speaker 1: at the Gundam kit line that incorporated the use of polycaps,
Speaker 1: which were the soft UH plastic typically polytheline as connectors
Speaker 1: for better articulations of the joint, which is you'll you'll know,
Speaker 1: it feels so different there. You can tell when you
Speaker 1: have an old kit and just like you're like Craig
Speaker 1: and get shoulder trying to get into where we're now.
Speaker 1: It just kind of pops in nice. And then the
Speaker 1: Night seven Gundam Sentinel model introduced the concept of snap
Speaker 1: fit models, reducing the need to use glue, and then
Speaker 1: starting from Mobile Suit Gundam Chars Counter Attack Line all
Speaker 1: gump Kids fee ured snap fit assembly so we no
Speaker 1: longer needed glue. Yeah. Yeah. In band I introduced the
Speaker 1: High Grade line, which featured newer one one by one
Speaker 1: scale versions of the r X U seventy eight two Gundam,
Speaker 1: which is the Gundam you know, like like think of
Speaker 1: the the think of what you think of in Gundam
Speaker 1: in your head. That's the r X the r X
Speaker 1: one seventy eight Gundam m K two and the MSc
Speaker 1: zero zero six Zeta Gundam and the ms Z ten
Speaker 1: zz Gundam, and each kit boasted exceptional detail and articulation,
Speaker 1: as well as features normally found in their larger scale versions,
Speaker 1: such as the Gundham's core block system and Zata's transformation feature,
Speaker 1: which is uh yeah, the transformation. Transformation Gundams are so
Speaker 1: intimidating to me because I was like, like, if it
Speaker 1: has to transform, it has to be really in. I
Speaker 1: had to do. I made one with the core block system,
Speaker 1: and it's like you gotta like build the jet and
Speaker 1: then like put it into the actual body and like
Speaker 1: make all the stems to go into it. It was
Speaker 1: very stressful. Can you all talk about what a Gunham
Speaker 1: does like in the show and like just for people
Speaker 1: that have never seen it originally, like in the original
Speaker 1: like Mobile Suit Gundam seventy nine series, the whole idea
Speaker 1: was that like there were these two roaring factions like
Speaker 1: Space and Earth. Uh and the Space there's space forces
Speaker 1: called Zion, and their whole thing was like they created
Speaker 1: these giant mex called mobile suits, Like that was their thing.
Speaker 1: Like they were like technologically they were there was so
Speaker 1: for advanced when it came to um the Earth Science
Speaker 1: the Earth Federation, and like the Earth Federation was like, man,
Speaker 1: we've been getting worked for like months and like we
Speaker 1: need to come up with something, and like they're the
Speaker 1: thing that they came up with was a Gundam, which
Speaker 1: is like their highly advanced mobile suit that was like
Speaker 1: made out of like I think I think it was
Speaker 1: made of like gundanium. I think was what they called
Speaker 1: like their special alloy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so like it
Speaker 1: was made a super advanced mobile suit that um, the
Speaker 1: Earth Federation built, and like every since then it's been
Speaker 1: sort of sitting as like a super weapon and all
Speaker 1: the series where like it's usually like either the first
Speaker 1: of its kind or the one the only one of
Speaker 1: its kind of it's a very limited number of series
Speaker 1: that are made. That is usually palletd by like a
Speaker 1: fifteen and six year old kid, and then it's used
Speaker 1: to topple whatever the evil space people are or Earth
Speaker 1: people depending on the series. Yeah, and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: And to get really technical, if you're wondering what gun
Speaker 1: their giant robots that people sit in, usually there's there's
Speaker 1: been different modes of operation. Some you just kind of
Speaker 1: sit in, put in the helmet. Some you sit in
Speaker 1: and you just use the levers. Some you sit in
Speaker 1: and they jack into your back, like the Matrix or Gundam.
Speaker 1: Some you stand in and your motions are copied. Uh,
Speaker 1: by the Gundam. You know what's really funny about that
Speaker 1: series is that there's one guy that has a giant
Speaker 1: robot horse and then you go inside and you see
Speaker 1: that it's just a giant horse that's inside the actual robot.
Speaker 1: It's very funny. Uh, it's it's it's it's yeah, Gunda Gundom.
Speaker 1: It seems like real fun, fun series that I'm definitely
Speaker 1: gonna hell yeah, you're you're gonna love it. It's insane.
Speaker 1: I'm so dumb because I didn't know that Transformers was
Speaker 1: from Japan. I thought it was a Western show that
Speaker 1: was stealing or copying, but no, it actually originated it's
Speaker 1: a Japanese well I guess it's a Japanese American franchise.
Speaker 1: UM that looks like it was co produced by the
Speaker 1: toy companies to Kara Tomy and Hasbro. But I was
Speaker 1: just like, to me, when I think of like for
Speaker 1: people at home who have literally never seen them, to me,
Speaker 1: it looks like straight off like a Transformers, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously very different. Um and people forget Transformers are aliens,
Speaker 1: but um, that is true. I forgot. I'm literally dismember
Speaker 1: the yeah, the from like ting Yeah, yeah yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but I find that fascinating anyways, very I mean it's
Speaker 1: all MEC. It's like MEC animation essentially, So that's the
Speaker 1: term for the suits that they were talking about. Okay,
Speaker 1: continue on what I'm going through. Some of these fun
Speaker 1: questions about builds and stuff, and uh, one is like
Speaker 1: are there any difficulties building or displaying the models? Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, so I'm curious what Cody does. But
Speaker 1: it's funny. IM sorry, I mean to cut you on
Speaker 1: ahead for me, Like I keep it so simple, like
Speaker 1: I one, I only make only do the kids of
Speaker 1: of the suits that I actually like, like that I've
Speaker 1: liked as a kid. So like I don't get anyone
Speaker 1: that are like those huge suits where they have where
Speaker 1: they're like one like there one forty four skill, but
Speaker 1: like they're enormous unit takes up so much space. Like
Speaker 1: I do suits that are like one, they're like usually
Speaker 1: humanoids with their bipedals so they can do stand up
Speaker 1: on their own to begin with. Um. Also, I have
Speaker 1: a rule of like three, like if I I can't
Speaker 1: do more than three, I can't have more than three
Speaker 1: plastic robots in my room at any time because I
Speaker 1: just don't want I just don't want it taking up
Speaker 1: that much space, you know, because you see like these
Speaker 1: actual collectors and they just have like rooms dedicated to
Speaker 1: like you know, a forward to ceiling, these models and stuff.
Speaker 1: So like I keep it simple that way, but there
Speaker 1: are some like do you look at people that have
Speaker 1: made those like dioramas and stuff. Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I was scoping a diorama. I got close. My My
Speaker 1: living room is currently the wildest. It's a choice. It's
Speaker 1: a choice. You gotta dedicated. Yeah, I think of what
Speaker 1: any woman who comes back to think, like you have
Speaker 1: to be a to date me, you have to, like
Speaker 1: I have one straight up. So so I have the
Speaker 1: DVD rack next to just gumpl of boxes of stuff.
Speaker 1: I have to build like just boxes, so it looks
Speaker 1: like to anyone it will be like, why you got
Speaker 1: junk over there? That's not junk. Those are my builds.
Speaker 1: Then I have DVD rack where the top are just
Speaker 1: I've separate. I've organized is my DVD rack to be
Speaker 1: um anime up top and then and and then like
Speaker 1: just live action movies below it, and then PS four
Speaker 1: games that I don't play at the bottom. So like
Speaker 1: all you''re gonna see first is just a rack full
Speaker 1: of anime, and then you look at the Then you
Speaker 1: look at this this this bookshelf where at the top
Speaker 1: it's like my friends so Foobie toy, which like you'll
Speaker 1: look at and you'll be like, oh, it seems like
Speaker 1: it's Wolverine and Colossus, and no, it's like Glenn Danzig
Speaker 1: and and Harry Henry Rawlins as a gay married couple,
Speaker 1: as as Astro Boy Tetsogen as Wolverine and Colossus, a
Speaker 1: hat on a hat on a hat on a hat,
Speaker 1: Giant Godzilla like you know, DVD book from Criterion, Goku
Speaker 1: Spider Man. You go down, multiple gokus, a Goku glasses set,
Speaker 1: Joe Suke Sousk. Then we go down and we have
Speaker 1: World Warcraft, which is like known bad bad nerd info
Speaker 1: that goes all the way to Diablo titan Fall, two
Speaker 1: giant grimoires of Destiny too, and a model last word
Speaker 1: Switch Games. And you go down and it only gets
Speaker 1: worse because then we have magic the Gathering and a
Speaker 1: saying scouter. And then you look and if that wasn't
Speaker 1: too much, you're already out of breath. You look over
Speaker 1: and there's plastic robot Max and big oh Si. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see. That's I'm going off like like I don't
Speaker 1: want to bring like my girl over and she sees
Speaker 1: like I already got like a Captain America toy up
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, there's like I think there's
Speaker 1: a threshold for like outward geekiness that I want to
Speaker 1: show when people are coming over to my like my
Speaker 1: house that uh, I try to limit myself to only
Speaker 1: three I That's not what concerns me at all dating someone.
Speaker 1: It's more that I am minimalist and like O c D.
Speaker 1: Like my place is so like clean and tidy that
Speaker 1: just seen the ship. Her amount of physical media is
Speaker 1: overwhelming to me, like closets for a reason. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't I understand, like the flex of one I
Speaker 1: never want to see, but just I feel like, uh,
Speaker 1: like interior design, I'm like, there's a reason this should
Speaker 1: need I'm Marie Condo. I'm like this should not be
Speaker 1: out like just my my brain is like just highlight
Speaker 1: a couple of pieces, like you just because I have
Speaker 1: O c D. I'm like anything else, I just need
Speaker 1: a clean, clear space to be also from the listeners
Speaker 1: at home. Danny is hot, so it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: she had on her walls. She's good. So according to YouTube,
Speaker 1: if you like that from the record, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what she has on her wall, she can link. You
Speaker 1: know that that's not true. Why am I single? Then
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into this. I actually have
Speaker 1: a canvas portrait hand painted Baby Yoda on my its
Speaker 1: um I just don't have. I just don't like a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't like clutter. In my opinion, it just feels
Speaker 1: like for me, it feels like clutter. So I only have,
Speaker 1: like really, I have like three pieces like you that
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is super dope. Here's this like hand
Speaker 1: painted print of vegeta or campus of vegeta and Baby
Speaker 1: Yoda and then you don't need to see anything else.
Speaker 1: Oh well, U you know, we we can get into
Speaker 1: vegetas and vegatas and what have you. Buta slander on
Speaker 1: this podcast. I wasn't going to slander him. I was
Speaker 1: just seging. I was just segueing into this break and
Speaker 1: we'll be back after these messages. You s You're gonna
Speaker 1: come for you if you talking about my king this guy.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to nerdificent. We're talking gumplot and I'm if
Speaker 1: you wide away here with Danny Fernandez and Cody ziglar
Speaker 1: um Iffy, I had one thing I forgot to say
Speaker 1: when you were talking about how Vin Diesel contractually can't
Speaker 1: lose a fight. I feel like a curatore Yama made that,
Speaker 1: but the opposite for a vegeta. It's like, contractually, do
Speaker 1: not let this man win. Even if I'm no longer
Speaker 1: really involved with this series anymore, do not let him win.
Speaker 1: At he can get really close and he can power
Speaker 1: up where it seems like he's going to beat this
Speaker 1: person because he has the necessary level too, but do
Speaker 1: not let him win. He was like, this is y'all's
Speaker 1: punishment for making me keep this guy around even though
Speaker 1: going to be a villain of the week. This is
Speaker 1: this is cyber building against my my keying vegeta also
Speaker 1: gay icon a CURATORI ama, um, but yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as we look towards the future
Speaker 1: of Kinnam, I think the one of the first things
Speaker 1: I want to uh kind of tackle before we even
Speaker 1: end this, which you know, I think both of me
Speaker 1: and Cody have ideas for this. But as the guests.
Speaker 1: I'll let Cody take this first, which is is there
Speaker 1: a model that is best for beginners? You know? Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think um any high grade. If I was going
Speaker 1: to recommend one, I reckon men a high grade Zaku
Speaker 1: two or just the high grade like r X seventy
Speaker 1: eight Gundam like the original o g s like it's
Speaker 1: um I put together. Um. I think one of the
Speaker 1: second kids ever put together was the high grade chars
Speaker 1: Zaku Zaku two, and it was something you could snap
Speaker 1: together in like thirty or forty minutes. Um, it's it's, it's,
Speaker 1: it's it looks nice, it's got a cool like design
Speaker 1: and cool color. Um. They're pretty cheap, they're probably like
Speaker 1: twelve twelve bucks. Uh and also like they're just it's it's.
Speaker 1: It's a good process to where like you can sort
Speaker 1: of see like it starts connecting those neurons in your
Speaker 1: brains if you haven't done like any type of model
Speaker 1: building before. Um. So like that either either Zaku two
Speaker 1: or like the original Gundam would be like my rex
Speaker 1: for like easy first first time um gun plus to
Speaker 1: put together. Yeah yeah, yeah, I think those are great,
Speaker 1: but I think you just can't go wrong with any
Speaker 1: of the h g s, even if even for the
Speaker 1: more difficult complicated ones. In the end, there the hds
Speaker 1: are built for you to start off. I think they
Speaker 1: did a really good job of keeping it simplistic, like
Speaker 1: just looking at the pieces from my all my h
Speaker 1: g s and then comparing it to like when I
Speaker 1: opened up my MG sniper, Like there's just a expanse
Speaker 1: level of how much more stuff there is in And
Speaker 1: I mean this zaku I had uh that I built
Speaker 1: from uh maybe the Unicola unique La because unique La
Speaker 1: did it's it's this year is the fort anniversary of
Speaker 1: GUNPLA and so they dropped you know sets that you
Speaker 1: that you would get after you spent a certain amount
Speaker 1: of money. And it was an art Um who was
Speaker 1: an r X seven and a zaku. And I went
Speaker 1: with the zaku because I already had so many gun
Speaker 1: dams and this was probably the simplest build I've done.
Speaker 1: It was like three runners, which is pretty much unheard of.
Speaker 1: And I knocked that out and I and it was
Speaker 1: it allowed me to experiment with top coat. What you know,
Speaker 1: it came out. I but you know, I'm still I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to learn the kind of like more advanced techniques,
Speaker 1: which is like panel lining top coat. I couldn't practice
Speaker 1: panel lining because it's all red, so you know, I
Speaker 1: just well, the fun thing is it's a it's a marathon,
Speaker 1: not a sprint when it comes to that part of it.
Speaker 1: And I know I have to start building this MG
Speaker 1: sniper because I was geeked up off the sauce and
Speaker 1: and I was kicking it with a with a gun
Speaker 1: play twitch builder and and spent and I got so
Speaker 1: many more uh on the way right now, so I
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, I just gotta Yeah, I'll do the
Speaker 1: rundown for the for the cast so so that people,
Speaker 1: you know, can know what I'm what I'm rocking with.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was geeked up off the sauce. Right now.
Speaker 1: I have a MG Gundham Astray red frame coming. Uh,
Speaker 1: a Iron Blooded Orphans Hadgi Robushi, but it's an h
Speaker 1: G so that would be a little easy. And that's
Speaker 1: a pre order, so that's not gonna be coming. Then
Speaker 1: uh MG tall geese on the way. Um. And then
Speaker 1: I have a collection stage, which is like a three
Speaker 1: layered stage so you can just let them stand in order. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then shin musha gundham uh sinoku no gin have
Speaker 1: you seen those? Zick? No, No, I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is. All right, I'm gonna send you. I'm a
Speaker 1: student has become. But I saw that and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a immediate cop, like, no questions asked, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop I'm gonna drop the link so Zick
Speaker 1: can see it and you can hear hear his expression
Speaker 1: on air, but that that one dropped, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is an immediate cop. There's no questions asked. I
Speaker 1: need that in my collection. Just let you see what
Speaker 1: let me see what my man's working with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's straight heat um and it comes with a with
Speaker 1: a diorama set. So that's also what attracted it to me,
Speaker 1: as I was like, okay, cool, Like I don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about getting a diorama for this because the
Speaker 1: heat's coming the two blades. Yeah, man, this cuts twice
Speaker 1: as us. All right, Well, uh, I mean, Zick, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on you, thanks for having
Speaker 1: me guys. Yeah yeah, is there anything that you'd like
Speaker 1: to plug before we head up out of here? Check
Speaker 1: me out on all social media platforms. At ya for zig.
Speaker 1: Uh that dude zig dot com if you wanna see
Speaker 1: I guess my website. I don't know. I she hoped
Speaker 1: room has ended. So any shot runners want to hire you, boy,
Speaker 1: hit me up because I need some money. Uh than that. Um,
Speaker 1: check out the dark Weed podcast, both of both Danny
Speaker 1: and if you have been on, uh was where where
Speaker 1: me and my homie Brodie talk about nerd stuff. Uh,
Speaker 1: And we've stuff and it's a really fun just to
Speaker 1: creating like a space for like people of color, black
Speaker 1: people to talk about like their nerdy interests. So that's
Speaker 1: that's it for me. I'm at miss Danny Fernandez on
Speaker 1: all the things. Uh, still figuring out TikTok where I am?
Speaker 1: I am Danny Fernandez. Well, the reason why I got
Speaker 1: on it is I justified. I love horror and I
Speaker 1: have like a horror script I'm writing, and I love
Speaker 1: just dicking around and in that space, and like I
Speaker 1: love the little sixty second videos that are terrifying. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I can justify getting on this if
Speaker 1: I'm using it to like frighten people. Um. And so
Speaker 1: I made a little horror short which maybe by the
Speaker 1: time this is out, I will have uploaded but I
Speaker 1: did run into their copyright. I had a Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: Selena bitty bitty bomb bomb that I made video and
Speaker 1: they immediately took it down. Thank you. Um I know
Speaker 1: that those two have a ven diagram somewhere in my
Speaker 1: head and in culture. Um so anyways, check me out
Speaker 1: on that. And uh, yeah, we have the great debate
Speaker 1: that if he wrote on in his appearing in that
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