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Speaker 1: When I grow up, I want to be a scientist.

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Speaker 2: What does being a scientist means?

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Speaker 3: You be very very very smart and inventing stuff, wearing

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Speaker 4: In a lab. When I grow up, wanna be a

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Speaker 4: pilot with a uniform white always flying high up in

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Speaker 4: a firefighter putting out flames, or maybe a police officer

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Speaker 4: keeping people say. It's so fun to learn what you

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Speaker 4: can be growing up growing up. When I grow up,

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Speaker 4: I want to be an artist that paints for trips.

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Speaker 4: Wanna be a scientist that does experimvents. Oh, so many

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Speaker 4: people you will be growing up, growing up, growing Yeah,

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Speaker 4: growing up, growing up, growing up?

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Speaker 2: Hi, and welcome to Grown Up with Emily, a Lingo

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Speaker 2: kids podcast helping amazing kids to grow up and be

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Speaker 2: even more amazing. And Emily, it's me. You know, as

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Speaker 2: a kid, I was always asked what do you want

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Speaker 2: be so many things. Does it sound familiar? Then I

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Speaker 2: am glad you are listening, because you are going to

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Speaker 2: find out what it takes to be anything you want.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready to make science your superpower?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Growing up he.

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Speaker 2: Last episode, we met Captain Maria Fagerstrom, a pilot who

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Speaker 2: lives in Spain and flies around the world. Today, we're

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Speaker 2: embarking on a scientific journey. We'll explore wildlife conservation. Do

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Speaker 2: you love wild animals? If you've dreamed of being a

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Speaker 2: scientist who helps keep wildlife wild, you won't want to

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Speaker 2: miss this episode. Today we're going to meet an ornithologist,

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Speaker 2: an expert in birds, rowing up.

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Speaker 5: Rowing up.

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Speaker 2: We're visiting a wildlife rescue center in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Is it a zoo?

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Speaker 2: Not exactly. Animals are in protected areas like a zoo,

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Speaker 2: but most are injured or ill or rescued from dangerous situations.

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Speaker 2: These animals are native to the area, so once they're healthy,

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Speaker 1: So it's like a hospital for animals.

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Speaker 2: That's a good comparison. We're close to the owl area.

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Speaker 2: Georgia is home to four kinds of owls, barred, great horned,

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Speaker 2: barn and the Eastern screech owl.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Follow that sound.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's a little owl.

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Speaker 2: That's an Eastern screech owl. Most are gray, but some

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Speaker 2: are reddish. It's so beautiful. Oh. A volunteer is approaching

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Speaker 2: the owl.

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Speaker 1: He's putting on some thick gloves.

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Speaker 2: I guess even little owls have sharp talons. Ah, the

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Speaker 2: owl has a damaged wing.

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Speaker 2: Owls are birds of prey, carnivores. If this one can't fly,

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Speaker 2: it can't hunt. Let's strowl across the footbridge. Hmmm. I

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Speaker 2: see some grass and rocks and some holes in the ground.

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Speaker 1: I think I see a turtle. It's coming out of

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Speaker 2: That's actually a tortoise. Its shell is rounded like a dome.

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Speaker 2: Tortoises can't swim in water like turtles. This is a

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Speaker 2: gopher tortoise, one of the oldest living species on the planet.

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Speaker 2: They've fit on Earth for the last sixteen million years.

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Speaker 2: Believe it or not, these tortoises have an important role

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Speaker 2: in our ecosystem. We call them keystone species. Many other

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Speaker 2: animals depend on them. They dig burrows underground that over

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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty other species also call home. Now

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Speaker 2: they're endangered, at risk of disappearing.

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Speaker 3: If they're gone, the other animals who use those burrows

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they could die too.

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Speaker 1: Can they be saved?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Now, there is a law that gopher tortoises must

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Speaker 2: be relocated before land is cleared. Rescue centers like this

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Speaker 1: So, once the law is made, the animals are safe.

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Speaker 2: Not quite. Park rangers, wildlife enforcement, and conservationists work to

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Speaker 1: Oh. It takes a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Work, yes, and it can pay off. The most famous

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Speaker 2: success is the bald eagle. Sixty years ago, there were

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Speaker 2: are over fourteen thousand pairs. There's a bald eagle here.

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Speaker 2: It lives at the center. Can we see it? We'll try.

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Speaker 2: Let's head to the educational center. Wow, it's a big bird.

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Speaker 2: The woman handling the eagle seems very comfortable.

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Speaker 1: The woman's name is Karna Newsom. She says she's an ornithologist.

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Speaker 2: She's taking the eagle back to its nest. When she returns,

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Speaker 2: meet a real scientist, an ornithologist. Yeah, Hi there, Karina.

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Speaker 2: I'm with Lingo kids and we want to find out

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 6: Do? I am ready to go?

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Speaker 2: Great? First off, how did you decide to focus on birds.

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Speaker 6: I ended up majoring in zoo and wildlife biology in college,

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Speaker 6: and part of that degree I had to learn about mammals.

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Speaker 6: which is a beautiful bird. It has all different colors

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Speaker 6: blue jay. They're everywhere. You've never seen that. I had

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Speaker 6: at that point I realized that birds were a really

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Speaker 2: So cool, Karina, can you tell us three things all

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Speaker 2: wildlife biologists or conservationists need?

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Speaker 6: So I would say the thing number one that a

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Speaker 6: conservationist or a biologists need is a mentor. So the

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Speaker 1: That's super cool.

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Speaker 3: One of my dreams is to hold or feed animals

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Speaker 6: The second thing that conservationists need is experience to make

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Speaker 6: I was at the Philadelphia Zoo, I was essentially practicing

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Speaker 6: And saying number three that I think conservationists need is passion,

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Speaker 6: because even though taking care of animals and studying animals

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Speaker 6: also pretty hard. But it's hard in a good way.

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Speaker 4: But if you.

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Speaker 6: Don't like it, man, don't sign up for that right.

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Speaker 2: Really interesting, Karina, we'd love some tips at the end

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Speaker 2: on how our listeners can start learning these skills. We

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Speaker 2: also received some fantastic questions from our Lingo kids listeners.

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Speaker 1: Don't scientists always wear white coats and sit in the laps.

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Speaker 6: So when people think of a scientist where a laptote,

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Speaker 6: you are likely thinking of maybe a microbiologist, someone who's

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Speaker 6: conservation or wildlife scientist. Pretty much oftentimes we are outside

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Speaker 6: whether it's mud, or it's plants, or sometimes it's other

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Speaker 6: fun parts of nature, but we're right out in the mix.

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Speaker 6: Outside you can also do both of those things, which

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Speaker 6: is the case for a lot of people who study animals.

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Speaker 1: But how do scientists study birds when they're flying.

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Speaker 6: they're making sounds as they do when we hear them

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Speaker 6: in trees in our own neighborhoods, and that allows him

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Speaker 6: to know what kinds of birds are flying over different

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite thing about being a scientist?

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Speaker 6: When I started that internship, I was actually terrified of

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Speaker 6: And then I would share everything I loved about tigers,

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Speaker 6: but they're actually pretty smooth and shiny, right. I remember

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Speaker 3: Karina and what should I do if I find a

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Speaker 1: What's the coolest fact about birds?

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Speaker 6: Okay, so the coolest fact about birds to me actually

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Speaker 6: comes from vultures. And vultures are usually birds that people

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Speaker 6: bald heads and they're kind of patchy looking. Vultures are incredible.

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Speaker 6: there's that summach acid burns our throats on stomach acids. Well,

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Speaker 6: vultures have stomach acid that is so strong it's anywhere

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Speaker 6: up to one hundred times stronger than ours. It can

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Speaker 6: they never get sick. If we didn't have vultures, we

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Speaker 6: would be in a bad way. We would have disease

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Speaker 6: see a vulture, they don't even have to think that

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Speaker 6: they're pretty, but just thank the vulture.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, mister vulture, even though you're gross.

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Speaker 2: what is one thing we can all do to help

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Speaker 6: So, no matter where you live across the United States

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Speaker 6: flying during migration, most of them are flying at night time,

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Speaker 6: and unfortunately, lights that are on during the night can

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Speaker 4: Into windows, which is not good.

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Speaker 6: So if you have outdoor lights like garage lights or

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Speaker 6: any sort of lights that are outside, turn those off

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Speaker 6: and you could even take it a step further and

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Speaker 6: encourage your schools to turn off lights at night or

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Speaker 6: call that the lights out Promise, the Lights Out Pledge.

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Speaker 6: We want people to take that pledge to help birds

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Speaker 6: migrate every night because over any given city. So for example,

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Speaker 6: here in Washington, d C. One night, we had thirty

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Speaker 6: million birds flying over the city in one night. So

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Speaker 6: if you can do your part and turn the lights off.

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Speaker 2: Perfect, We'll do our part right kids.

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