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Speaker 2: Jess Navarees, Aisha Morrison, Kelsey Charles, and Jane Slater.
Speaker 4: Welcome into Girls Talk, Boys Talk.
Speaker 5: I'm your host Jane Slater, joined by the aforementioned Aisha Morrison,
Speaker 5: Kelsey Charles, who's talking to us remotely, and of course
Speaker 5: Jess Nelverez.
Speaker 6: I always free it out.
Speaker 7: It's okay, you know, you try and I appreciate veras
Speaker 7: you got this girl, I believe.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: Uh, nice little day off yesterday I got to interview
Speaker 5: Joe Thaisman.
Speaker 4: A fun fact. I didn't know this, maybe some of
Speaker 4: y'all did. Did you know his rule as Joe Feesman.
Speaker 5: Really they changed it to thisman when he went to
Speaker 5: Notre Dame as part of a Heisman campaign and it
Speaker 5: stuck from.
Speaker 4: His kids and his family here before.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: Some people that are listening to this of the older generation,
Speaker 5: they're probably familiar with that story, but I thought.
Speaker 4: That was interesting. And I know he was a.
Speaker 5: Washington Commanders back then, obviously different mascot and won a
Speaker 5: Super Bowl with them, but just thought that was interesting.
Speaker 5: A former divisional quarterback talked a lot about adversity, and
Speaker 5: the Cowboys have got their fair share of adversity, and
Speaker 5: they've also had their fair share of sound this week,
Speaker 5: did you guys listen to Mike McCarthy today talking about
Speaker 5: Kellen Moore in the need for him to call a
Speaker 5: more conservative game, And I know it raised some eyebrows,
Speaker 5: but because you watch so much of the film, I'll
Speaker 5: start with you, what do you think he implied by that?
Speaker 8: So basically, and I mentioned this earlier this week, is
Speaker 8: that I personally think that looking at the the way
Speaker 8: that the Cowboys run offense, I feel like there are
Speaker 8: a lot of similar similarities as.
Speaker 6: They were last year.
Speaker 8: But some of those guys on the outside, like Amari Cooper,
Speaker 8: the Ceedee Lamb, Michael Gallup obviously isn't playing like those
Speaker 8: guys they can beat some of those coverages, they can,
Speaker 8: you know, and what you're seeing now this year, I
Speaker 8: feel like it's similar play calling, but those those young
Speaker 8: receivers are having trouble, but then also you gotta take
Speaker 8: I think they're gonna.
Speaker 6: Have to take the short passes.
Speaker 8: I think that they're gonna have to kind of turn
Speaker 8: back the clock and be methodical and be simple with
Speaker 8: their offensive play calling so it can open up some
Speaker 8: of the down.
Speaker 6: The field stuff and stuff.
Speaker 8: So personally, what I what I took from what he
Speaker 8: was saying is that you don't have some of these
Speaker 8: guys that can just you don't have numerous guys who
Speaker 8: can go beat guys one on one.
Speaker 6: You are going to have to.
Speaker 8: In my opinion, the Cowboys have to put out some
Speaker 8: good tape.
Speaker 6: The last tape.
Speaker 8: That people have seen from them from the middle of
Speaker 8: the season last year to the playoff game to game
Speaker 8: one of this season. They don't look like they can
Speaker 8: run the ball. They struggle when you drop dbs in
Speaker 8: coverage and this is a and the offensive line has
Speaker 8: had trouble. So I think that defenses are looking at
Speaker 8: that moving forward and they really are like, you're gonna
Speaker 8: have to go down the field. You're going to have
Speaker 8: to put together good drives, You're gonna have to not
Speaker 8: get penalties. So the Cowboys are when I kind of
Speaker 8: understand the conservative take. I think it's more so just
Speaker 8: let's fundamental football, as you've talked about, Jess, just get
Speaker 8: back to the basics and hopefully hopefully that opens up
Speaker 8: the other exotic stuff that you want to do, because
Speaker 8: right now you don't look like you can do the
Speaker 8: basics well. And I think that's kind of what he
Speaker 8: was saying there. But then also, there is nothing wrong
Speaker 8: with the head coach tapping their offensive line offensive coordinator
Speaker 8: on their shoulder and being like, if this is working,
Speaker 8: stick to it. And this is something fans, I can say,
Speaker 8: have been asking about and asking for it for a while.
Speaker 8: It's like, hey, why isn't there being that adjustment made?
Speaker 8: Is like if Kellen looks like he's struggling, and we
Speaker 8: have seen like we've seen him go heads ahead with
Speaker 8: defensive coordinators and they get the best of him in
Speaker 8: different instances. So I also was happy in some new
Speaker 8: regard to hear that Mike McCarthy addressed it, and hopefully
Speaker 8: it's something that they continue to do moving forward. Because
Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy has been a play caller, he has experience
Speaker 8: as a play caller. Not only that, he has experience
Speaker 8: as a play caller with two running backs and where
Speaker 8: they turn running backs sometimes into receiver options. So when
Speaker 8: you see the lack of I don't know, the offensive efficiency,
Speaker 8: it's frustrating because it's like, I know, this guy has
Speaker 8: put input into offenses that were at this level or
Speaker 8: even less than and they were productive.
Speaker 5: I love that you brought that up, because ladies, I've asked,
Speaker 5: you know, Mike point blank, why not just call the
Speaker 5: place yeah? And he has said that, you know, he
Speaker 5: learned when he was in Green Bay that you've got
Speaker 5: to do a better job of delegating yes. And he
Speaker 5: also said that it just took him and Kellen a
Speaker 5: little bit of time in terms of terminology and what
Speaker 5: he was trying to accomplish and what Mike was trying
Speaker 5: to accomplish. But you know, he told us last season
Speaker 5: that he was going to be more involved in the
Speaker 5: room with the quarterbacks, more involved in this offense. I
Speaker 5: just wonder the level of his involvement this week versus
Speaker 5: in the week's past. I mean, just when you listen
Speaker 5: to some of his comments, and you know you've watched
Speaker 5: some of the film, what stands out to you about
Speaker 5: Kellen Moore and what he's doing so far.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just see the same issues and it's not
Speaker 7: establishing things early on. And that's in regards to the
Speaker 7: run game. I think it's so vital for a team
Speaker 7: that has a running back duo like Ezekiel Alia Antoni Pollard,
Speaker 7: and I think when you escape the run too early
Speaker 7: in the game and you don't allow those guys to
Speaker 7: establish the run game, you're in trouble either way, right
Speaker 7: And then you know, I used it to your point
Speaker 7: talking about comparisons from last season, they had those veteran
Speaker 7: wide receivers and the name I think that gets slept
Speaker 7: on quite a lot is Cedric Wilson. He was also
Speaker 7: a very key target, especially last season with his let's
Speaker 7: see catching rate of seventy three point eight percent. I mean,
Speaker 7: I think the loss of him, the loss of Amar
Speaker 7: over the off season is really really a tough pill
Speaker 7: to swallow when you don't have that veteran presence on
Speaker 7: your wide receiver core. And I think that's something that
Speaker 7: you know, going into this season, Kellen Moore needed to
Speaker 7: adjust to needed to adjust to the fact that you
Speaker 7: have a younger wide receiver corps. You have you know,
Speaker 7: rookies essentially having to step up for these bigger name
Speaker 7: guys if you will, and I think not relying and
Speaker 7: pushing the run game as much as he needs to
Speaker 7: be is exactly the issue that where we are now,
Speaker 7: and I think you know you have the luxury of
Speaker 7: having two running backs. You have Ezekiel Elliott who pounds
Speaker 7: and pounds out of that hole. He has that speed
Speaker 7: to get out when you give him the chance to
Speaker 7: build that momentum, and then you have Tony Pollard that
Speaker 7: you can interchange him with. So Zeke isn't getting fatigued,
Speaker 7: he's not getting those reps over and over and over
Speaker 7: to where he's not getting the yardage. You have the
Speaker 7: run game, you have the tools for it, given we
Speaker 7: know the O line situation, but really it's how can
Speaker 7: you give the O line a chance when you're not
Speaker 7: establishing the run either.
Speaker 6: You got to use something.
Speaker 7: You really don't know what your O line is capable
Speaker 7: of with this run game until you give them the
Speaker 7: chance to establish your the run game. We didn't even
Speaker 7: get to see that with ten ten Zeke touches. How
Speaker 7: can you really know if this O line can hold
Speaker 7: up for that run or not.
Speaker 6: Penalties didn't help either.
Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna go.
Speaker 5: I don't think I think it's I think it's hard
Speaker 5: for them to stick with the run when you are
Speaker 5: getting these penalties that's putting you behind.
Speaker 7: And the Kelsey snap penalties too, and Kelsey.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this. It's from Michael
Speaker 4: Gelkin Dallas Morning News. He got this away from the cameras.
Speaker 5: But when he was asking Ceedee Lamb about, you know,
Speaker 5: his two for eleven against the Bucks, CEEDI said, I
Speaker 5: was so I don't think I can use the word
Speaker 5: ticked off all clarify.
Speaker 4: I was just like, what was going on. I had
Speaker 4: to have a flashback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna get all the attention out. This is
Speaker 5: what they were talking about. I love the mission and
Speaker 5: the vulnerability there, but how did you not know that
Speaker 5: you were gonna get targeted as much? I mean, you're
Speaker 5: now they keep saying like you're the guy, and there's
Speaker 5: not a lot of guys on the roster, and then
Speaker 5: you bring up Cedric Wilson's catching right. Well, of course
Speaker 5: it was high when they got the ballroom last year
Speaker 5: because they were so hyper focused on the CD Lamb,
Speaker 5: the mri Kpers, the Michael Gallops and the absence of
Speaker 5: all of that, they really only have to focus. I
Speaker 5: felt like they only gave respect really to two guys,
Speaker 5: and that was I think they focused a lot on
Speaker 5: Tony Pollard in the last game. And tell me if
Speaker 5: I'm wrong, when you've looked at someone to take but
Speaker 5: and they focused.
Speaker 4: A lot on CD Lamb.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'm.
Speaker 5: Shocked that he wouldn't think that.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's a you know, people say it
Speaker 8: all the time. I believe that DeMarcus Laurence said it
Speaker 8: this week. Is like they want complimentary football and on
Speaker 8: the like, I think that can happen, just like with
Speaker 8: one side of the ball and there it's not complementary
Speaker 8: on the offensive side of the ball. To me, they
Speaker 8: just have to show that something is successful because if
Speaker 8: you don't show that anything is successful offensively, then the
Speaker 8: defense comes in. And like the defense comes in and
Speaker 8: they're they're paying, they're keying in on everything that you're doing.
Speaker 6: So to me, I really.
Speaker 8: Feel like this game is establishing something positive, putting some
Speaker 8: positive tape out there.
Speaker 6: For people to second guess. Because right now, second guy,
Speaker 6: they have.
Speaker 9: A positive real quick guys, because.
Speaker 4: Like Kelsey, they have a positive opening drive.
Speaker 6: Tracking that right.
Speaker 4: Then after that it kind of fell pies.
Speaker 9: Here's my thing is that we keep talking about like
Speaker 9: we need them to be. You know, I think balance
Speaker 9: is a big thing that this team needs to focus on.
Speaker 9: We talked about the differentiation between like how much they
Speaker 9: were targeting CD. CD seems surprised by the fact that
Speaker 9: this defense, the opposed defenses are knowing that that's exactly
Speaker 9: where Kellen Moore's gonna go. So Kellen has to do
Speaker 9: a better job of spreading out the love to the
Speaker 9: rest of the team. But also I feel like, you know,
Speaker 9: we talk a lot about fundamentals and again we could
Speaker 9: just you know, be a dead horse forever and ever
Speaker 9: about penalties. One of the things that I think this
Speaker 9: team really need to take a step back and do
Speaker 9: is look at the anatomy of this year's team versus
Speaker 9: last year's team. You are working with an entire different
Speaker 9: set of tools. You cannot do the same things you
Speaker 9: did last year and consider them applicables this season. It's
Speaker 9: not even close. So like Kellen Moore coming out and
Speaker 9: being cute on some of those first drives, maybe last
Speaker 9: year that could have made some sense. You want creativity everyone,
Speaker 9: You know, begging him to do something different. Well, the
Speaker 9: difference this year is that you have completely different guys
Speaker 9: out there on the field, So you have to get
Speaker 9: used to that first, and you have to build those
Speaker 9: fundamental blocks if you will them to even be able
Speaker 9: to get some kind of rhythm developed. And then I'm
Speaker 9: looking to him to add something more on top of it,
Speaker 9: give me the cherry on top, but I need you
Speaker 9: to like figure out the Sunday first, because like it's
Speaker 9: melting at this point.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, and Kelsey, to your point, I was just looking
Speaker 5: over my game log. Their first drive when they had
Speaker 5: the fourteen plays went for fifty four yards, even though
Speaker 5: it resulted in literally their only points in the game.
Speaker 5: It was a fifty one yard film out Brett Maher.
Speaker 5: They had six different receivers on that drive. They did
Speaker 5: run the ball, they did get it out to their receivers,
Speaker 5: so it felt more balanced. But then it's like you
Speaker 5: started moving away from it. You see a lot of
Speaker 5: There was a lot of incomplete passes in this game.
Speaker 5: You know, as I was long it, there was a
Speaker 5: ton of incompletions. And yes, Dak was throwing into some
Speaker 5: tight windows, but even listening to some of the guys
Speaker 5: this week, it sounded like some of the guys weren't
Speaker 5: running the right routes. And I have a hard time
Speaker 5: believing that it's going to get any better with Cooper Rush,
Speaker 5: even though they did get some work with them in
Speaker 5: the preseason, which was different than what they got with Dak.
Speaker 5: You know, most of their meaningful work with the ones
Speaker 5: was during the joint practices.
Speaker 4: But as much as they're saying.
Speaker 5: Publicly how much confidence they have in Dak, I mean
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush, I just have a hard time believing that
Speaker 5: we're gonna see this offense suddenly thrill us uh in
Speaker 5: week two.
Speaker 8: I think you could see more of I think you
Speaker 8: could see more spread in the ball just because Cooper
Speaker 8: Rush just he's I DAK and there's no it's no
Speaker 8: knock to Duck. But he's always been a little bit
Speaker 8: more of a conservative, you know, quarterback. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 8: with the game manage, there's nothing wrong with that. It's
Speaker 8: not a bad word out.
Speaker 6: Here in these streets.
Speaker 8: But I I do I do see him like not
Speaker 8: being afraid to go down the field a little bit.
Speaker 8: I want them to show some type.
Speaker 6: Of vertical threat.
Speaker 8: Just get these guys on their heels, just just have
Speaker 8: those dvs come off the line a little bit more
Speaker 8: like hopefully turp And gets some burn in this game.
Speaker 8: I think they tried them on like this option route
Speaker 8: that was kind of nice. But by that time, nobody
Speaker 8: cares about what you're doing in a run game because
Speaker 8: they know you're gonna go away from it. But I
Speaker 8: hope that it's early that they established some type of like, no,
Speaker 8: we're gonna go down the field a few times, because
Speaker 8: if you're not spread in the ball, why would safeties
Speaker 8: care they're gonna come down and play in the box.
Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna go and take a break here real quick.
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Speaker 5: this zero to one start as an opportunity and likened
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Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys. I am impressed with the leadership prowess of
Speaker 5: Micah Parsons in year two. We even saw some of
Speaker 5: that in year one, but he was looking at this
Speaker 5: as an opportunity in week two and he likened it
Speaker 5: to last year when they lost to Marcus Lawrence and
Speaker 5: was just the most random injury at practice and non
Speaker 5: contact drill one of the tackling dummies, and it felt bad,
Speaker 5: you know, heading into especially after you were coming off
Speaker 5: of what felt like a really close win against the
Speaker 5: Bucks and now you're going and facing Justin Herbert and
Speaker 5: the Chargers. But I went back and looked at that game,
Speaker 5: and respectfully Micah, I disagree because while you lost DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 5: Micah ended up stepping up in that game and had
Speaker 5: a sack, Trayvon Diggs had an interception. But specifically, when
Speaker 5: you look at the offense and that one Tony Poler
Speaker 5: had over one hundred yards and that one Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 5: had eighty one yards, I don't know if I have
Speaker 5: this sort of confidence in this offense and their ability
Speaker 5: to respond in week two. In other words, they don't
Speaker 5: have a Micah Parsons that can step up in the
Speaker 5: absence of DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 4: I mean, Micah Parsons did so well last year.
Speaker 5: They were going to DeMarcus Lawrence and restructuring his deal,
Speaker 5: and that says everything you used to know about how
Speaker 5: they felt about Micah and what was behind him. I
Speaker 5: don't think there's a guy in this offense, specifically at quarterback,
Speaker 5: that is going to do such a good job before
Speaker 5: in the gaps that we're talking to Dak about redoing
Speaker 5: his deal next year.
Speaker 4: Seriously, I mean, I.
Speaker 8: Think I kind of understand, uh the game planning aspect
Speaker 8: of it, to have a similar game plan as the Chargers.
Speaker 8: The Chargers game, I would argue that was obviously one
Speaker 8: of their better running games they got.
Speaker 6: I mean, uh, Tony killed them on the edge.
Speaker 8: I mean they got a lot like they struggle with
Speaker 8: outside contain the Chargers did, So you do look at
Speaker 8: this game like you kind of want the similar thing.
Speaker 6: And then Ezekiel Elliott had a whole bunch of yard.
Speaker 8: Like it's I think that they kind of want to
Speaker 8: playoff playoff the run. So I get maybe like compared
Speaker 8: into the Chargers because the game plan may be similar
Speaker 8: as far as like we don't have there's not a
Speaker 8: person on the offense that is Michael Parsons quality.
Speaker 6: To cup in and step in for a deck.
Speaker 8: Like I said, I think it's just gonna be an
Speaker 8: all around thing. This run game is gonna have to
Speaker 8: be productive and actually have some type of succession running
Speaker 8: the ball like that's all.
Speaker 6: That's all.
Speaker 8: But I do understand kind of what he's saying about
Speaker 8: the circumstances with the game, maybe the game planning for
Speaker 8: how they want to tackle being or the Cincinnati.
Speaker 7: Be even just the mentality of it, right. I Mean,
Speaker 7: here's the thing. I think, in order for there to
Speaker 7: be any form of a pulse early on in this game,
Speaker 7: the defense is going to have to take more of
Speaker 7: the workload, Let's be honest with it. And I think
Speaker 7: in order to do that, they need to stack up
Speaker 7: the interceptions. They need to put the pressure on Joey
Speaker 7: b They need to get in that pocket, and they
Speaker 7: need to allow him to make those mistakes, and by mistakes,
Speaker 7: it works out for the Cowboys, right Like, you're getting
Speaker 7: the ball, but it's all going to come down to
Speaker 7: your field position. And I think the helping the offense
Speaker 7: in that way of you get them good field position.
Speaker 7: Look what else could you do for them if you're
Speaker 7: if you're getting the interceptions, you're getting them good field position.
Speaker 7: That even goes down to special teams. You know, our
Speaker 7: punts need to be great. Everything needs to be great.
Speaker 7: Turbo Turpin needs to turn on his jets. There so
Speaker 7: many different factors that go into everybody outside of the
Speaker 7: offense stepping up to help the offense and their their
Speaker 7: lack of I mean, I don't even want to call
Speaker 7: it chemistry at this point. I think it's so much I.
Speaker 9: Want to know as far as that, I think that's
Speaker 9: that feels aggressive. But I feel like you you mentioned
Speaker 9: interception chets, and I think you know, obviously I think
Speaker 9: a ton is on the defense. But I think I
Speaker 9: mentioned this the other day when when you when you
Speaker 9: talk about interceptions, it really is like the defense operates
Speaker 9: as this whole massive unit. I'm looking at that front, Steven.
Speaker 9: You know when you when you look back to like
Speaker 9: some of the great defenses, it's those guys up front
Speaker 9: who are creating pressure and therefore creating opportunities for that secondary.
Speaker 9: So Trayvon Diggs like stand up, be ready to DeMarcus
Speaker 9: Lawrence and Michael Parsons like, my eyes are on you.
Speaker 9: You know, Jay, you talked about the league left side
Speaker 9: with this offensive line for you know, the Bengals, this
Speaker 9: has been a problem for them for a minute. Granted
Speaker 9: they came in and they added Lyell on the right,
Speaker 9: but I know that you guys listened to one to
Speaker 9: five through the Fan with DeMarcus Lawrison's interview, and he
Speaker 9: actually made a pretty interesting comment that I actually, you know,
Speaker 9: I love this, and he said, listen, I watched Lael
Speaker 9: and he had a hard time with t J. Watt,
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna send Michael Parts over there, and yeah,
Speaker 9: like I'll be over there too. So I actually feel
Speaker 9: like that's going to be a major emphasis for us
Speaker 9: to be watching this weekend and what this defensive front
Speaker 9: can actually produce, and then therefore, you know, create opportunities
Speaker 9: for Trayvon Diggs and the guys to create better filled
Speaker 9: position for you know, the team moving Ford.
Speaker 5: All right, Well, they had a hard enough time shutting
Speaker 5: down Julio Jones last week. How are they gonna how
Speaker 5: are they gonna hold up against Jamar.
Speaker 8: Chase Well, I well, I mean as far as the
Speaker 8: secondary goes, it sounds like.
Speaker 5: The no jy Ron Curse, you're gonna be leaning on Izzy,
Speaker 5: who wasn't even dressed out last week.
Speaker 8: I think Donovan Wilson still had a good game filling
Speaker 8: in for jay Ron Curse.
Speaker 6: I looked at him this game.
Speaker 8: It sounds like Marquise Bell and Israel gonna get some
Speaker 8: burns too.
Speaker 6: We'll see.
Speaker 8: I said earlier that I think that the safety play
Speaker 8: is going to be so important in this game, because
Speaker 8: if you can replicate at all what Mika Fitzpatrick did,
Speaker 8: then they're gonna have a problem.
Speaker 6: What to your point, Yes.
Speaker 8: The Cowboys have to cap they if the defense does
Speaker 8: get turnovers, they.
Speaker 6: Have to capitalize off of them. Yes, because when you
Speaker 6: look at that that game last week, it's shouldn't have
Speaker 6: been that close.
Speaker 8: When you're when the opposing team has that many turnouts
Speaker 8: like Cincinnati had what five turnovers? Yeah, and Pittsburgh they
Speaker 8: couldn't capitalize fully. They weren't turning those into sevens. Like
Speaker 8: they weren't putting points on the board with those turnovers.
Speaker 8: So Brett Maher is gonna Brett Maher is gonna have
Speaker 8: to be ready.
Speaker 7: Brett Maher better come and save the day. That's all
Speaker 7: I'm saying. If he needs to, he needs to be ready.
Speaker 7: And that goes along with just everybody else being on
Speaker 7: the ready.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well to your point, what was it thirty three
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay's forty eight Donovan Wilson last week had the interception,
Speaker 5: uh with the past intended for what's his face?
Speaker 4: And they didn't capitalize. Yeah, you know, here we are
Speaker 4: at the end of the game.
Speaker 5: It was Tampa Bay nineteen Dallas three, and they literally
Speaker 5: couldn't do anything with it.
Speaker 4: I just and listening to all.
Speaker 5: Of you talk, it sounds like they've got to play
Speaker 5: fairly error free football. And I can't say that I've
Speaker 5: got the call, and maybe I'm wrong. I don't want
Speaker 5: to speak for the rest of you, But are you
Speaker 5: that confident that this team can play error free football
Speaker 5: against the Bengals?
Speaker 6: No, I'm not.
Speaker 8: But they're also coming off of a very erroneous game,
Speaker 8: so they are trying to come in here and get
Speaker 8: their feel too. Is it?
Speaker 4: But they still have Joe Burrow.
Speaker 8: Tracking that they definitely have more. Yeah, absolutely, I'm not
Speaker 8: taking anything away from what they can do offensively.
Speaker 6: Also, their defense has earned it.
Speaker 8: They've earned the respect that they have now like they've
Speaker 8: earned that they put that roster together with their million
Speaker 8: first round picks.
Speaker 6: This is how it goes.
Speaker 8: But at the same time, I'm like, they're both in
Speaker 8: a place to where I'm not sure about I'm more
Speaker 8: sure about their receiving core and what they do, you know,
Speaker 8: But at the same time, I'm not sure about either
Speaker 8: one's Like offensive line is gonna be amazing. I think
Speaker 8: Dallas's offensive line has the opportunity to run the ball.
Speaker 8: But Cincinnati's offensive line, they're left and right tackle, no
Speaker 8: offensive leyl Collins. But if I'm looking at the film,
Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm going at him. I'm going at him,
Speaker 8: and I think that both teams could see some success
Speaker 8: rushing the past or this game.
Speaker 5: I think what concerned me in that game, and I
Speaker 5: know it sounds like doom and gloom and it's sounding
Speaker 5: really bleak this week when you listen to me talk
Speaker 5: but on NFL Network and here what concerns me is
Speaker 5: what their defense was able to do against the Steelers,
Speaker 5: Limiting Chase Claypool, limiting Naji Harris, weathering five turnovers.
Speaker 6: I you think that Pittsburgh, you think Pittsburgh's offense is worse.
Speaker 4: Than I don't think that.
Speaker 5: I don't think that Pittsburgh's offense is better than Dallas.
Speaker 5: But I don't know if I believe the defense can
Speaker 5: hold up as long as their defense did against the Steelers.
Speaker 8: I think you have the debt to do it. I think,
Speaker 8: especially on the defensive line. I thought the DT's played
Speaker 8: pretty well this past game. Really, where the success of
Speaker 8: the Bucks came from was the left.
Speaker 6: Side of the defensive line.
Speaker 8: So they were running, they were running at Dorans, they
Speaker 8: were running at Laateon, they were you know, they were
Speaker 8: running at that side trying to get trying to catch
Speaker 8: tray Von Diggs having to come up and tackle.
Speaker 6: So I feel like, pressure wise, I just want to see.
Speaker 8: I do want to see more pressure from the Cowboys
Speaker 8: defensive line. Granted you're not playing, you're not playing to
Speaker 8: Tom Brady, that just gonna get the ball out like that,
Speaker 8: Joey Joe Joe Blurrow will hold onto the ball.
Speaker 6: He will hold onto the ball.
Speaker 8: So I'm like, that to me, plays into what you
Speaker 8: want to do defensively, Honestly, Like at this point, I'm like,
Speaker 8: I'm trying to.
Speaker 4: Just see because well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Both of you guys are fairly optim I think more
Speaker 5: optimistic than Kelsey and I are heading into.
Speaker 4: This game, and I am just curious as to why.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing, here's and I'm sure there's fans that
Speaker 5: want to hear the why because they want to be optimistic.
Speaker 4: It's just and maybe they'll surprise me.
Speaker 5: But I would say this to Cowboys fans if they go,
Speaker 5: oh and too do you know how likely it is
Speaker 5: that owe and to start teams that teams that start
Speaker 5: owing to make it to the playoffs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 5: Say I'm not saying right off the season, but I'm
Speaker 5: but what I'm saying is it doesn't look good.
Speaker 7: And what you also have to keep it mine too.
Speaker 7: And I'm not trying to be you know, pessimistic over
Speaker 7: here either, but look at the division, look at the
Speaker 7: rest of the division and the Eagles. Yeah, that was
Speaker 7: the wild. That was wild. But even the Eagles, they
Speaker 7: did a really good I think they had a really
Speaker 7: good offseason in building their team. I really think they
Speaker 7: were productive. And you know, as much as I love
Speaker 7: to hate on the Eagles, you can't when they're being
Speaker 7: productive and they are going to be a legitimate threat
Speaker 7: to the NFC East. This team cannot afford to lose,
Speaker 7: and they also can't afford to just say, Okay, well,
Speaker 7: what if you know, we lose and then Dak comes back.
Speaker 7: Dak can save it all, don't. I don't necessarily think
Speaker 7: it's fair to put Dak in that position either. So
Speaker 7: in the meantime, I'm trying to be optimistic here and
Speaker 7: saying that, look, it couldn't be much worse than what
Speaker 7: we saw last week pre Dak injury. Right, it couldn't
Speaker 7: be much worse given you add Cooper Rush in this mix.
Speaker 7: I am not going to count Cooper Rush out just yet,
Speaker 7: and that's only because I don't think we've seen enough
Speaker 7: of him to be able to say that we've seen
Speaker 7: Cooper Rush. See there we go. But the thing is
Speaker 7: we can we can't. Me my Cowboys fan brain is saying, look,
Speaker 7: if if the defense was able to hold Tom Brady
Speaker 7: to nineteen points last week, I think you really rely
Speaker 7: heavily on leaning on the defense and leaning on the
Speaker 7: run game, two things that you do absolutely have. You
Speaker 7: have two good running backs, you got the fuss, They.
Speaker 5: Lost Chris Godwin in the game and couldn't even capitalize
Speaker 5: on it.
Speaker 4: That's what concerns me.
Speaker 6: And part of the reason, but part of the reason.
Speaker 4: Why one real threatnight.
Speaker 8: The only optimism that you're that you're finding for me
Speaker 8: is the fact that I do think that Dallas has
Speaker 8: the pieces to replicate what the Steelers did last week. Now,
Speaker 8: granted they were playing very inspired football because of the
Speaker 8: Black Forces, because of Mike Tomlin, but I do think
Speaker 8: that you still.
Speaker 6: Have the pieces to come out.
Speaker 7: Here and playing White.
Speaker 6: I'm just being honest.
Speaker 8: I know Mike mccarthur ain't pulling out no Black forces,
Speaker 8: but at the same.
Speaker 6: Time, like Damn Quinn, he actually might.
Speaker 8: But I do listening to the defensive players, it sounds
Speaker 8: like they understand the gravity of the situation and that
Speaker 8: they're going to have to come out to play.
Speaker 6: So that gives me home.
Speaker 7: At the end of the day, we can just see
Speaker 7: what happened.
Speaker 8: But on the offense, with the running the ballpark, I
Speaker 8: know everybody's like weird about run the ball The Tampa
Speaker 8: Bay Bucks defensive line is no joke.
Speaker 6: It's no joke.
Speaker 8: And if the Cowboys didn't beat themselves with penalties, they
Speaker 8: probably would have continued to move the ball.
Speaker 6: Like you said, we didn't get the chance to see it.
Speaker 8: So I personally think that what Tampa Bay has on
Speaker 8: their defensive line is heavier than what is on the
Speaker 8: Bengals defensive line, even the linebacker position, all respect to
Speaker 8: you know, to what they have at the Bengals linebacker wise,
Speaker 8: But like Devin White and those guys are a different level,
Speaker 8: and I feel like the Cowboys did see some success there.
Speaker 8: They went away from it. So this is a wait
Speaker 8: and see game for me. I don't know about everybody else.
Speaker 8: I'm trying to see what they do with it. And
Speaker 8: then after that, I see what happens with Cooper Rush
Speaker 8: with a number one situation with the number one level
Speaker 8: offensive line and all that stuff, and I'll.
Speaker 6: See what he does.
Speaker 7: And you're remember that was only week one, right, and
Speaker 7: and that's that's for everybody. That's for the fan base.
Speaker 7: Like this guy was falling on Twitter this week, and
Speaker 7: it's it's weak.
Speaker 9: Well why I understand why.
Speaker 7: I get it. I get it, Like I feel the frustration.
Speaker 9: I get it, honestly feel like at the same time, though,
Speaker 9: like we keep on talking about like they're not capitalizing
Speaker 9: and they're not doing this, and I can't help go
Speaker 9: back to the fact that, like are they even capable
Speaker 9: of doing that with the tools this front office has
Speaker 9: set them up to have at their availability for the season,
Speaker 9: Like I just that's where I struggle, Like I really do.
Speaker 9: We're saying like, well, they need to capitalize, they need
Speaker 9: to like you know, the defense, Like, yes, defense can
Speaker 9: get you filled with this is but then what is
Speaker 9: Cooper Rush and Ceedee Lamb and the lack of a
Speaker 9: consistent run game going to then turn around.
Speaker 12: And do with it.
Speaker 9: Like that's where I have the hardest. I'm where I
Speaker 9: need a little bit more of them holding up their
Speaker 9: end of the bargain because the defense can can do
Speaker 9: as much as they can do. But like, if you
Speaker 9: can't score points, doesn't matter. Like there's a team in basketball,
Speaker 9: Grinnell College who literally does not play defense. They just
Speaker 9: go down the court and they shoot three pointers. But
Speaker 9: it's not the other way around where they don't score
Speaker 9: points and they only play defense. Like that's not how
Speaker 9: the formula works. So like that's where I have my
Speaker 9: biggest CONCERNU. I'm like, I kind of wish the tables
Speaker 9: were turned a little bit where I could at least
Speaker 9: rely to get someone on the board who's like going
Speaker 9: to be able to get me points. And I just
Speaker 9: that's where I struggle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and I think the other thing that just
Speaker 5: stands out to me, I was listening to you know,
Speaker 5: we've talked about penalties a lot this week on the show,
Speaker 5: and rightfully so. Jerry Jones was asked about that I
Speaker 5: want to fight to the fan this morning, and even
Speaker 5: he conceded that there's been such a point of emphasis on.
Speaker 7: Penalties, but when do we see that?
Speaker 4: That's my frustration.
Speaker 5: I mean last year, even before the Broncos game, I'll
Speaker 5: never forget my card saying they had spent one of
Speaker 5: the days specifically on penalties.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a major focus.
Speaker 5: And I know this was a mad and even Jerry
Speaker 5: was talking about the day like, we know it's a
Speaker 5: point ofments. We got to continue focusing on that. And
Speaker 5: so essentially it was across the board. I mean, you're
Speaker 5: talking about holding people other than just the players accountable.
Speaker 5: I mean it's I guess it's on the coaches too,
Speaker 5: but ultimately kind of bringing the thing full circle, Kellen
Speaker 5: Moore has to do a better job of putting his
Speaker 5: players in a.
Speaker 4: Position to succeed. And I guess the question I have.
Speaker 5: And even though Jerry's response, even when asked if this
Speaker 5: was a predictable offense, he said, well, we went twelve
Speaker 5: and five last year, all right, fair enough, fair enough,
Speaker 5: but I just if removed that record twelve and five.
Speaker 5: When you look at some of these games, do you
Speaker 5: think that Kellen Moore has done a good enough job
Speaker 5: of putting some of his players in a position to
Speaker 5: succeed and this is where he's really gonna get tested
Speaker 5: this year because he got to, because he has to.
Speaker 5: It was an embarrassing of riches with some of the
Speaker 5: talent that he had last year on this roster.
Speaker 7: I'm going back to last season just looking at the penalties,
Speaker 7: because you were talking about the Denver game with the
Speaker 7: amount of penalties, and it just made me think of
Speaker 7: even Thanksgiving the Raiders game with fourteen penalties, given that
Speaker 7: was on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 4: Right now, were the most penaltist team in the league
Speaker 4: last year.
Speaker 7: Do I have to remind you of the lucky number again?
Speaker 7: But one twenty seven, one hundred and twenty seven penalties
Speaker 7: is never acceptable. And to me, look, I don't know
Speaker 7: how to run a football team. I'm not saying I do.
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, if you are
Speaker 7: leading the league in the wrong things as the amount
Speaker 7: of penalties that your team had that cost you over
Speaker 7: a thousand yards last season, how is there? How are
Speaker 7: we still seeing the amount of penalties that we have seen.
Speaker 5: Some of its I think it's youth too, right try
Speaker 5: and they've got a lot of youth on this team,
Speaker 5: and we've mentioned that I think you've got a lot
Speaker 5: of I think a lot of guys are trying to
Speaker 5: do too much. They're prussing a lot a lots being asked.
Speaker 5: And this goes back to your argument, Kelsey, when you're
Speaker 5: relying on these young guys so much and you're not
Speaker 5: bringing in some of these veteran free agents, this is
Speaker 5: sort of what you're going to get. There are going
Speaker 5: to be these growing pains, and I guess the only
Speaker 5: silver lining for me is the reason why the defense
Speaker 5: played so well last year, I think is because in
Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy's first year, they were forced to play.
Speaker 4: So many young guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think some of that experience met with
Speaker 5: the right coach to put players in the best position
Speaker 5: to succeed. All of that translated into success. And so
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm writing off the season, you know,
Speaker 5: with sixteen games to go, but it just doesn't feel
Speaker 5: like you've got the right personnel and maybe in some positions,
Speaker 5: the right coach to get the most out of what
Speaker 5: you've got on your roster.
Speaker 8: Now you're and I think me and you talked about
Speaker 8: like it hasn't It hasn't been a lot to talk
Speaker 8: about it, but the Cowboys brought in a new wide
Speaker 8: receiver coach this year, and.
Speaker 5: For people that may not know, Adam Henry is responsible
Speaker 5: for coaching up guys like OBJ and Jarvis Landry at LSU.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I don't know if that at all. So
Speaker 8: you also have a new coach in here coaching up
Speaker 8: these guys. Maybe the techniques different, maybe the way he
Speaker 8: wants to like all this stuff matters. And I one
Speaker 8: thing that I saw from Cdee Lamb. I don't think
Speaker 8: I really saw a lot from that from him last year.
Speaker 8: But he had two penalties if I'm not mistaken this
Speaker 8: game offensive pass interference where he's pushing off of guys
Speaker 8: and he doesn't.
Speaker 6: You don't need to be doing that. What are you doing?
Speaker 5: It feels a little desperate, right, Yeah, He's desperation out there,
Speaker 5: And part of.
Speaker 6: That is the fact that I feel like it's a
Speaker 6: part of it.
Speaker 8: I feel like a lot of is the play calling,
Speaker 8: Like I really do feel like it. And hold I
Speaker 8: hope people accountable. We talked about accountability. Ceedee Lamb is
Speaker 8: gonna have to play better. He's going to have to
Speaker 8: concentrate through these grabs. He's gonna have to He's going
Speaker 8: to have to catch balls even if they're not perfect
Speaker 8: sometimes because we hold Deck accountable as well for not
Speaker 8: having a great game, But that gentleman's gonna have to
Speaker 8: step up there as well.
Speaker 7: And I think there's a difference between growing pains and
Speaker 7: then what you're actually seeing at the Cowboys. Because it's
Speaker 7: okay to have growing pain. I'm not saying you're gonna
Speaker 7: have a penalty free game with the amount of rookies
Speaker 7: that are being asked to step up right now, I'm
Speaker 7: not saying that. But at what point is is it
Speaker 7: not a growing pain anymore? Because this seems like a
Speaker 7: heavier weight than a growing pain. This seems like issues
Speaker 7: that have carried on since last year and and essentially
Speaker 7: were the reasonings behind the Cowboys not making a deeper
Speaker 7: playoff run than they did, and a lot of the
Speaker 7: same issues. Mistake, correct me if I'm wrong, Aisha. We're
Speaker 7: seeing from the forty nine Ers game into the Bucks game.
Speaker 6: It's almost identical.
Speaker 7: And when does that's not a growing pains. That's I
Speaker 7: don't even know where to start with that. That's so
Speaker 7: many little things that have built up and built up
Speaker 7: and built up. But when do you get to start
Speaker 7: to see the pressures of those things being addressed one
Speaker 7: by one because there's a lot of things just going
Speaker 7: on at once.
Speaker 8: I do think that I personally, I do have fight
Speaker 8: that Terrance still a plays better. And that's just because
Speaker 8: one of the whole that he got he literally lost
Speaker 8: his helmet.
Speaker 6: The guy fell.
Speaker 4: They called a whole.
Speaker 6: It was craziness.
Speaker 8: But then the other you know, the false starts where
Speaker 8: I want him to be confident and everyone talks about
Speaker 8: him being confident. I listened to his interviews and stuff,
Speaker 8: but he was You could tell that he was unsure.
Speaker 8: Maybe that was the cadence changing. These are things we
Speaker 8: don't talk about, like the communication of the like of
Speaker 8: the offensive line with these new offensive line and being installed,
Speaker 8: the quarterback being installed, all that stuff. So I expect
Speaker 8: for Terrence Steel to have a better game. I don't
Speaker 8: think he played bad, but the penalties were so detrimental
Speaker 8: that it's difficult to look past.
Speaker 6: And you know, his play.
Speaker 7: That outshined how he played at the end of the day.
Speaker 7: Because you ask anybody this week, hey, Terrence Steele, and
Speaker 7: everyone's gonna go, oh, three penalties in a row. You know,
Speaker 7: it outshines you and really it. It just there was
Speaker 7: a pulse to that game. At some point, there was
Speaker 7: a pulse. There was a little baby pulse, right, It
Speaker 7: wasn't a big pulse, but there was a pulse. And
Speaker 7: those kind of things that give you just the lack
Speaker 7: of advantage with the feel position sets you back. And
Speaker 7: and that's what I'm talking to. Those are pre snap
Speaker 7: penalties that are just so unacceptable for this team. And
Speaker 7: and so, okay, Jane, back to your point.
Speaker 4: So I was going to chime in there.
Speaker 5: I was like, the fulls lasted five minutes and fifty
Speaker 5: eight on a fourteen.
Speaker 7: Right, But to your point of why are you so optimistic?
Speaker 7: Here's the thing. Do I think the Cowboys could win
Speaker 7: this game? Yes? I do, but they have to at
Speaker 7: least show improvement. That's what I'm looking for this week
Speaker 7: is do I always want the Cowboys to win?
Speaker 6: How that is?
Speaker 4: That's where the bar is got, you know what?
Speaker 7: But do I want to see a win? Always? Yes?
Speaker 7: But do I want to get my call for my
Speaker 7: dad upset that they lost? No, of course not. But
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, like I want to
Speaker 7: see improvement, that there's a pulse for the season, not
Speaker 7: just talking about it we see in the middle.
Speaker 9: L Like, let me ask you guys this, like because
Speaker 9: I if I put my fan hat on, like I
Speaker 9: feel that, like as someone who you know has worked
Speaker 9: for this team full time, like I understand it's the
Speaker 9: worst coming back into the facility on a Monday and
Speaker 9: you just got beat so bad and you're like this sucks,
Speaker 9: you know, and like everyone's in a bad mood, like
Speaker 9: you're just overall impacted personally when the team loses. But
Speaker 9: then if I like take a step back, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 9: everything that we just talked about today, what about the
Speaker 9: fact of maybe we look at like a moral victory
Speaker 9: as the goal, Like is that more realistic for this
Speaker 9: stint in between when when I know, I know that
Speaker 9: I feel that, I feel that, but like, is it
Speaker 9: a moral Okay?
Speaker 5: Last weekend, Kelsey, is it a moral victory if they
Speaker 5: get a win over the Bengals after what we saw
Speaker 5: last week against the Steelers? Like are we as high
Speaker 5: on the Bengals right now as we were when the
Speaker 5: season started? Because more when you looked at week two, like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, the Bingles are coming into town, Like
Speaker 5: look at it's Murder's Row, right, Like right, But if
Speaker 5: but if we see a performance in the Bengals like
Speaker 5: we saw against the Steelers and the Cowboys managed to
Speaker 5: pull off a winner, feeling any better on Monday, because
Speaker 5: that's a very Dallas thing to do, for us to
Speaker 5: say like they've got no chance and then for them
Speaker 5: to go get a win.
Speaker 4: Against the Bengals.
Speaker 8: And that's why I just said I'm waiting to see
Speaker 8: in But I will say that, yeah, against their defense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I still think if you if you can.
Speaker 8: Score against their defense, their defense is no Their secondary,
Speaker 8: their safeties are no joke, Like, yeah, if you can
Speaker 8: do anything with them, would I would expect their secondary?
Speaker 6: Their secondary is a little bit all right, safeties?
Speaker 4: Tell you what.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take us to a break, and I want
Speaker 5: you guys to marinate on this when we come back.
Speaker 5: I want you guys to tell me what offensive player
Speaker 5: is going to step up and we're gonna be talking
Speaker 5: about on Monday.
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Speaker 5: the official dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, Kelsey Charles.
Speaker 4: You work for about a million different companies.
Speaker 5: When you're not doing this, and one of them is
Speaker 5: Lukezy Boots, which I love, my first real pair of boots.
Speaker 5: But you were outfitting the head coach last night and
Speaker 5: had an interesting conversation with him, didn't you I.
Speaker 8: Did, so.
Speaker 9: I did tell you guys, look at it yesterday. I
Speaker 9: was going to hold them back unless he won the game.
Speaker 9: I failed in that regard, but I did think it
Speaker 9: was really interesting. I was talking to him and just
Speaker 9: obviously it's been a tough year thus far and the
Speaker 9: one gang we played, and he was like, listen, you know,
Speaker 9: dealing with failure sucks. But I actually would argue that
Speaker 9: dealing with success is harder, and especially in a place
Speaker 9: like Dallas. I mean, we've watched this team in years
Speaker 9: past where, like you just said off the air, Jane,
Speaker 9: like they start to feel themselves a little bit, right,
Speaker 9: Like you know, they get their swag and they're like, oh,
Speaker 9: like we're pretty good despite the fact like maybe they
Speaker 9: had a rough time before and then Vick Banjo comes
Speaker 9: in town and you're like, what just happened? So I think,
Speaker 9: you know, for me, I would look at this upcoming
Speaker 9: weekend as a really big test. I'm of the mindset
Speaker 9: where I'm stacking little victories. I want to stay humble.
Speaker 9: I need them to fix a lot of things. But like, yeah,
Speaker 9: I'll take a little bit of a moral victory. And offensively,
Speaker 9: if you guys asking me a player, like, give me
Speaker 9: Tony Pollard. I need to see a lot of him
Speaker 9: this weekend. He's the guy that I'm gonna look forward
Speaker 9: to add a lot to this team, all.
Speaker 4: Right, are you sure?
Speaker 6: Ezekiel Elliott?
Speaker 8: For me, I with the Bengals defense, like their safeties
Speaker 8: come down and I want to make their safeties have
Speaker 8: to come down and tackle. So I want, I really
Speaker 8: want them to run the ball hard. And I think
Speaker 8: Ezekiel Elliott, the way that he in the way he
Speaker 8: does run the ball can help tire out that defense
Speaker 8: that kind of flies around for them.
Speaker 6: So for me, that's that's my guy.
Speaker 8: He sounds like he's prepared listen to his interview to
Speaker 8: take a lot of the weight.
Speaker 6: I hope they put it on him. He has legs
Speaker 6: in them. Man, let's go.
Speaker 7: He's still mine. But I'm gonna I'm gonna change I'm
Speaker 7: gonna change mine up and I'm gonna say chasing the
Speaker 7: storm Dalton Schultz because here's the thing. I think he
Speaker 7: was a clutch guy and that doesn't really say much
Speaker 7: last week, right, But I think if the wide receiver
Speaker 7: group isn't capable of stepping up. I really think you're
Speaker 7: gonna see those short passes to him, and I think
Speaker 7: he hasn't given us a reason to think he's not
Speaker 7: gonna to make the catches when he needs to be clutched.
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna go Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 5: I'd love to see them be able to establish the
Speaker 5: run and have it be successful, and they they've shown
Speaker 5: us that they can do that before. But if you're
Speaker 5: going to be focused so much on Ezekiel Elliott and
Speaker 5: you're focused on Ceedee lamb, give.
Speaker 4: Me Noah Brown.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, let no a Brown step up. If they're
Speaker 5: not giving him a lot of respect. He just needs
Speaker 5: to run the right routes and he needs and I
Speaker 5: would imagine that Noah and Cooper have gotten a lot
Speaker 5: of work together. Yeah, you know, as more two guys,
Speaker 5: second team guys. So give me Noah Brown. I do
Speaker 5: want to highlight when we look at the schedule, when
Speaker 5: you talk about filling themselves, let's assume they start off
Speaker 5: oher and one. Then they've got the Giants on the
Speaker 5: road Monday night football. Then they've got commanders here, then
Speaker 5: they've got the Rams just where they could definitely fill
Speaker 5: the brakes.
Speaker 4: And then they've got the Eagles game.
Speaker 5: This is going to be an interesting stretch here because
Speaker 5: they are divisional games, because they do count. That's why
Speaker 5: I fully expect to see Michael Gallup in Week three.
Speaker 5: I think that's when you're really gonna see them, is
Speaker 5: when they're playing within the division. But when you look
Speaker 5: at yeah, but when you look at that schedule. All right,
Speaker 5: so one too of of the after the Bengals game one, two, three,
Speaker 5: four games because then they've got the Lions after that.
Speaker 5: What's their record in those four Aysha Caronicles.
Speaker 7: Jane, don't do this.
Speaker 6: Stay again, State of State. It seams again.
Speaker 5: You've got Giants, Okay, there Monday night football. Then they've
Speaker 5: got a noon game with the Commanders. Then they've got
Speaker 5: the Rams, uh, which I believe is on the road. Nope,
Speaker 5: that's yep, there are on the road for that one.
Speaker 4: And then they've got the Eagles.
Speaker 8: Damn, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say to two to
Speaker 8: be safe. Okay, Barnacles, I didn't. You didn't.
Speaker 6: That's for detail. I was cheating, just trying to get
Speaker 6: something out.
Speaker 8: Com Yeah, that's the only all ones because I think Philly,
Speaker 8: as much as I can't stand that Green, has some
Speaker 8: nice things going on over there.
Speaker 6: Like that a J.
Speaker 8: Brown and Jalen Hirst situation looks like a real thing now.
Speaker 8: Defensively running you can run the ball on them.
Speaker 6: But other than that, like that's still gonna be a
Speaker 6: battle because the divisional game, I don't know, I say
Speaker 6: too or two. And it may be that Rams game
Speaker 6: looking real iffy right now to me.
Speaker 5: For the Giants, don't you pause and you think about
Speaker 5: this offensive line?
Speaker 7: And yep, And here's another factor that could plan to
Speaker 7: that too, is Jack's return. If it's the earlier return,
Speaker 7: then we're thinking we think it's six weeks, right, but
Speaker 7: you know we're we're playing. I'm just saying, right, what
Speaker 7: if exactly actually to be determined?
Speaker 8: Actually, because they left the door tompetition, it sounds like it's.
Speaker 6: A little bit of a door.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, I don't think what we're seeing right
Speaker 7: now could necessarily be what we see come the Eagles game.
Speaker 7: I really, for any position offensively, I I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 7: gonna y'all do with that what you will. But I
Speaker 7: think the commanders they have the best chance to win
Speaker 7: that game, and the Giants. Maybe I want to be
Speaker 7: optimistic and say yes, I just there's so many like.
Speaker 5: Our positive pad on the Panels, so Pat Doni at
Speaker 5: NBC five is always the positive one. But I sense
Speaker 5: trumpidation there, Kelsey, Did I get yours before I wrap
Speaker 5: this up?
Speaker 9: I mean, listen, I might. I might even go as
Speaker 9: far as it goes three in one because I feel
Speaker 9: like this team is a pretty good job of flitting
Speaker 9: divisional games. I have my Carson Wentz means ready, so
Speaker 9: like I'm to give them the win with the Commanders,
Speaker 9: I think the Giants, I'll take the win there Rams.
Speaker 9: I'm obvious reasons taking the l and Eagles could kind
Speaker 9: of go either way, depend on how Hurts, if he's
Speaker 9: developed into like who they want him to be. But
Speaker 9: you know that's kind of where my heads. I kind
Speaker 9: of the Eagles is the one where I could go.
Speaker 8: I could go either way on the OK but the
Speaker 8: Rams are having a similar problem as the Cowboys right now,
Speaker 8: with Cooper Rush being the only guy. You just made
Speaker 8: me think about it though that we saw offensively, they
Speaker 8: are in a place to where they're kind of scrambling
Speaker 8: too for answers other than Cooper Cup.
Speaker 5: Okay, so let me ask you this, who do you
Speaker 5: trust more as your head coach? Sean mcvayer.
Speaker 7: The podcast that.
Speaker 4: We are going to wrap this one up.
Speaker 5: I hope that we're talking victory Monday. I don't enjoy
Speaker 5: being the wet blanket here for fans when we do
Speaker 5: this show.
Speaker 4: I just but it would be a very Dallas thing
Speaker 4: to do to go win.
Speaker 5: This game and get everyone's optimism and particularly Jerry's going again.
Speaker 5: Thank you for tuning in to yet another week of
Speaker 5: Girls Talk, Boys Talk, and we will see you here
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Speaker 7: Go Cowboys.
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