WEBVTT - Girls Talk, 'Boys Talk: Conservative Gameplan?

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating,

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<v Speaker 2>Preferred Dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys and broadcasting live

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<v Speaker 2>from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts,

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<v Speaker 2>Jess Navarees, Aisha Morrison, Kelsey Charles, and Jane Slater.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome into Girls Talk, Boys Talk.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm your host Jane Slater, joined by the aforementioned Aisha Morrison,

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<v Speaker 5>Kelsey Charles, who's talking to us remotely, and of course

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<v Speaker 5>Jess Nelverez.

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<v Speaker 6>I always free it out.

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<v Speaker 7>It's okay, you know, you try and I appreciate veras

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<v Speaker 7>you got this girl, I believe.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, nice little day off yesterday I got to interview

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Thaisman.

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<v Speaker 4>A fun fact. I didn't know this, maybe some of

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<v Speaker 4>y'all did. Did you know his rule as Joe Feesman.

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<v Speaker 5>Really they changed it to thisman when he went to

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<v Speaker 5>Notre Dame as part of a Heisman campaign and it

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<v Speaker 5>stuck from.

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<v Speaker 4>His kids and his family here before.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Some people that are listening to this of the older generation,

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<v Speaker 5>they're probably familiar with that story, but I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>That was interesting. And I know he was a.

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<v Speaker 5>Washington Commanders back then, obviously different mascot and won a

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<v Speaker 5>Super Bowl with them, but just thought that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>A former divisional quarterback talked a lot about adversity, and

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<v Speaker 5>the Cowboys have got their fair share of adversity, and

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<v Speaker 5>they've also had their fair share of sound this week,

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<v Speaker 5>did you guys listen to Mike McCarthy today talking about

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<v Speaker 5>Kellen Moore in the need for him to call a

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<v Speaker 5>more conservative game, And I know it raised some eyebrows,

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<v Speaker 5>but because you watch so much of the film, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>start with you, what do you think he implied by that?

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<v Speaker 8>So basically, and I mentioned this earlier this week, is

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<v Speaker 8>that I personally think that looking at the the way

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<v Speaker 8>that the Cowboys run offense, I feel like there are

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of similar similarities as.

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<v Speaker 6>They were last year.

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<v Speaker 8>But some of those guys on the outside, like Amari Cooper,

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<v Speaker 8>the Ceedee Lamb, Michael Gallup obviously isn't playing like those

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<v Speaker 8>guys they can beat some of those coverages, they can,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, and what you're seeing now this year, I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like it's similar play calling, but those those young

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<v Speaker 8>receivers are having trouble, but then also you gotta take

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<v Speaker 8>I think they're gonna.

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<v Speaker 6>Have to take the short passes.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that they're gonna have to kind of turn

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<v Speaker 8>back the clock and be methodical and be simple with

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<v Speaker 8>their offensive play calling so it can open up some

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<v Speaker 8>of the down.

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<v Speaker 6>The field stuff and stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>So personally, what I what I took from what he

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<v Speaker 8>was saying is that you don't have some of these

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<v Speaker 8>guys that can just you don't have numerous guys who

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<v Speaker 8>can go beat guys one on one.

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<v Speaker 6>You are going to have to.

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<v Speaker 8>In my opinion, the Cowboys have to put out some

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<v Speaker 8>good tape.

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<v Speaker 6>The last tape.

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<v Speaker 8>That people have seen from them from the middle of

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<v Speaker 8>the season last year to the playoff game to game

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<v Speaker 8>one of this season. They don't look like they can

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<v Speaker 8>run the ball. They struggle when you drop dbs in

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<v Speaker 8>coverage and this is a and the offensive line has

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<v Speaker 8>had trouble. So I think that defenses are looking at

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<v Speaker 8>that moving forward and they really are like, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>have to go down the field. You're going to have

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<v Speaker 8>to put together good drives, You're gonna have to not

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<v Speaker 8>get penalties. So the Cowboys are when I kind of

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<v Speaker 8>understand the conservative take. I think it's more so just

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<v Speaker 8>let's fundamental football, as you've talked about, Jess, just get

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<v Speaker 8>back to the basics and hopefully hopefully that opens up

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<v Speaker 8>the other exotic stuff that you want to do, because

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<v Speaker 8>right now you don't look like you can do the

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<v Speaker 8>basics well. And I think that's kind of what he

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<v Speaker 8>was saying there. But then also, there is nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 8>with the head coach tapping their offensive line offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 8>on their shoulder and being like, if this is working,

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<v Speaker 8>stick to it. And this is something fans, I can say,

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<v Speaker 8>have been asking about and asking for it for a while.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like, hey, why isn't there being that adjustment made?

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<v Speaker 8>Is like if Kellen looks like he's struggling, and we

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<v Speaker 8>have seen like we've seen him go heads ahead with

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<v Speaker 8>defensive coordinators and they get the best of him in

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<v Speaker 8>different instances. So I also was happy in some new

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<v Speaker 8>regard to hear that Mike McCarthy addressed it, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 8>it's something that they continue to do moving forward. Because

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<v Speaker 8>Mike McCarthy has been a play caller, he has experience

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<v Speaker 8>as a play caller. Not only that, he has experience

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<v Speaker 8>as a play caller with two running backs and where

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<v Speaker 8>they turn running backs sometimes into receiver options. So when

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<v Speaker 8>you see the lack of I don't know, the offensive efficiency,

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<v Speaker 8>it's frustrating because it's like, I know, this guy has

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<v Speaker 8>put input into offenses that were at this level or

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<v Speaker 8>even less than and they were productive.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that you brought that up, because ladies, I've asked,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Mike point blank, why not just call the

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<v Speaker 5>place yeah? And he has said that, you know, he

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<v Speaker 5>learned when he was in Green Bay that you've got

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<v Speaker 5>to do a better job of delegating yes. And he

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<v Speaker 5>also said that it just took him and Kellen a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of time in terms of terminology and what

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<v Speaker 5>he was trying to accomplish and what Mike was trying

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<v Speaker 5>to accomplish. But you know, he told us last season

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<v Speaker 5>that he was going to be more involved in the

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<v Speaker 5>room with the quarterbacks, more involved in this offense. I

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<v Speaker 5>just wonder the level of his involvement this week versus

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<v Speaker 5>in the week's past. I mean, just when you listen

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<v Speaker 5>to some of his comments, and you know you've watched

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<v Speaker 5>some of the film, what stands out to you about

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<v Speaker 5>Kellen Moore and what he's doing so far.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I just see the same issues and it's not

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<v Speaker 7>establishing things early on. And that's in regards to the

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<v Speaker 7>run game. I think it's so vital for a team

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<v Speaker 7>that has a running back duo like Ezekiel Alia Antoni Pollard,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think when you escape the run too early

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<v Speaker 7>in the game and you don't allow those guys to

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<v Speaker 7>establish the run game, you're in trouble either way, right

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<v Speaker 7>And then you know, I used it to your point

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<v Speaker 7>talking about comparisons from last season, they had those veteran

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<v Speaker 7>wide receivers and the name I think that gets slept

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<v Speaker 7>on quite a lot is Cedric Wilson. He was also

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<v Speaker 7>a very key target, especially last season with his let's

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<v Speaker 7>see catching rate of seventy three point eight percent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I think the loss of him, the loss of Amar

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<v Speaker 7>over the off season is really really a tough pill

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<v Speaker 7>to swallow when you don't have that veteran presence on

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<v Speaker 7>your wide receiver core. And I think that's something that

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<v Speaker 7>you know, going into this season, Kellen Moore needed to

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<v Speaker 7>adjust to needed to adjust to the fact that you

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<v Speaker 7>have a younger wide receiver corps. You have you know,

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<v Speaker 7>rookies essentially having to step up for these bigger name

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<v Speaker 7>guys if you will, and I think not relying and

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<v Speaker 7>pushing the run game as much as he needs to

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<v Speaker 7>be is exactly the issue that where we are now,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think you know you have the luxury of

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<v Speaker 7>having two running backs. You have Ezekiel Elliott who pounds

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<v Speaker 7>and pounds out of that hole. He has that speed

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<v Speaker 7>to get out when you give him the chance to

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<v Speaker 7>build that momentum, and then you have Tony Pollard that

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<v Speaker 7>you can interchange him with. So Zeke isn't getting fatigued,

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<v Speaker 7>he's not getting those reps over and over and over

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<v Speaker 7>to where he's not getting the yardage. You have the

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<v Speaker 7>run game, you have the tools for it, given we

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<v Speaker 7>know the O line situation, but really it's how can

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<v Speaker 7>you give the O line a chance when you're not

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<v Speaker 7>establishing the run either.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to use something.

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<v Speaker 7>You really don't know what your O line is capable

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<v Speaker 7>of with this run game until you give them the

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<v Speaker 7>chance to establish your the run game. We didn't even

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<v Speaker 7>get to see that with ten ten Zeke touches. How

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<v Speaker 7>can you really know if this O line can hold

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<v Speaker 7>up for that run or not.

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<v Speaker 6>Penalties didn't help either.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I was gonna go.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I think it's I think it's hard

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<v Speaker 5>for them to stick with the run when you are

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<v Speaker 5>getting these penalties that's putting you behind.

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<v Speaker 7>And the Kelsey snap penalties too, and Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you saw this. It's from Michael

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<v Speaker 4>Gelkin Dallas Morning News. He got this away from the cameras.

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<v Speaker 5>But when he was asking Ceedee Lamb about, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>his two for eleven against the Bucks, CEEDI said, I

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<v Speaker 5>was so I don't think I can use the word

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<v Speaker 5>ticked off all clarify.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, what was going on. I had

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<v Speaker 4>to have a flashback.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're gonna get all the attention out. This is

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<v Speaker 5>what they were talking about. I love the mission and

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<v Speaker 5>the vulnerability there, but how did you not know that

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<v Speaker 5>you were gonna get targeted as much? I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 5>now they keep saying like you're the guy, and there's

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<v Speaker 5>not a lot of guys on the roster, and then

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<v Speaker 5>you bring up Cedric Wilson's catching right. Well, of course

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<v Speaker 5>it was high when they got the ballroom last year

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<v Speaker 5>because they were so hyper focused on the CD Lamb,

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<v Speaker 5>the mri Kpers, the Michael Gallops and the absence of

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<v Speaker 5>all of that, they really only have to focus. I

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<v Speaker 5>felt like they only gave respect really to two guys,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was I think they focused a lot on

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<v Speaker 5>Tony Pollard in the last game. And tell me if

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<v Speaker 5>I'm wrong, when you've looked at someone to take but

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<v Speaker 5>and they focused.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot on CD Lamb.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Shocked that he wouldn't think that.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's it's a you know, people say it

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<v Speaker 8>all the time. I believe that DeMarcus Laurence said it

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<v Speaker 8>this week. Is like they want complimentary football and on

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<v Speaker 8>the like, I think that can happen, just like with

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<v Speaker 8>one side of the ball and there it's not complementary

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<v Speaker 8>on the offensive side of the ball. To me, they

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<v Speaker 8>just have to show that something is successful because if

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<v Speaker 8>you don't show that anything is successful offensively, then the

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<v Speaker 8>defense comes in. And like the defense comes in and

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<v Speaker 8>they're they're paying, they're keying in on everything that you're doing.

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<v Speaker 6>So to me, I really.

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<v Speaker 8>Feel like this game is establishing something positive, putting some

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<v Speaker 8>positive tape out there.

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<v Speaker 6>For people to second guess. Because right now, second guy,

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<v Speaker 6>they have.

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<v Speaker 9>A positive real quick guys, because.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Kelsey, they have a positive opening drive.

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<v Speaker 6>Tracking that right.

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<v Speaker 4>Then after that it kind of fell pies.

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<v Speaker 9>Here's my thing is that we keep talking about like

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<v Speaker 9>we need them to be. You know, I think balance

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<v Speaker 9>is a big thing that this team needs to focus on.

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<v Speaker 9>We talked about the differentiation between like how much they

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<v Speaker 9>were targeting CD. CD seems surprised by the fact that

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<v Speaker 9>this defense, the opposed defenses are knowing that that's exactly

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<v Speaker 9>where Kellen Moore's gonna go. So Kellen has to do

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<v Speaker 9>a better job of spreading out the love to the

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<v Speaker 9>rest of the team. But also I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we talk a lot about fundamentals and again we could

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<v Speaker 9>just you know, be a dead horse forever and ever

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<v Speaker 9>about penalties. One of the things that I think this

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<v Speaker 9>team really need to take a step back and do

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<v Speaker 9>is look at the anatomy of this year's team versus

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<v Speaker 9>last year's team. You are working with an entire different

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<v Speaker 9>set of tools. You cannot do the same things you

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<v Speaker 9>did last year and consider them applicables this season. It's

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<v Speaker 9>not even close. So like Kellen Moore coming out and

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<v Speaker 9>being cute on some of those first drives, maybe last

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<v Speaker 9>year that could have made some sense. You want creativity everyone,

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<v Speaker 9>You know, begging him to do something different. Well, the

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<v Speaker 9>difference this year is that you have completely different guys

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<v Speaker 9>out there on the field, So you have to get

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<v Speaker 9>used to that first, and you have to build those

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<v Speaker 9>fundamental blocks if you will them to even be able

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<v Speaker 9>to get some kind of rhythm developed. And then I'm

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<v Speaker 9>looking to him to add something more on top of it,

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<v Speaker 9>give me the cherry on top, but I need you

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<v Speaker 9>to like figure out the Sunday first, because like it's

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<v Speaker 9>melting at this point.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and Kelsey, to your point, I was just looking

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<v Speaker 5>over my game log. Their first drive when they had

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<v Speaker 5>the fourteen plays went for fifty four yards, even though

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<v Speaker 5>it resulted in literally their only points in the game.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a fifty one yard film out Brett Maher.

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<v Speaker 5>They had six different receivers on that drive. They did

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<v Speaker 5>run the ball, they did get it out to their receivers,

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<v Speaker 5>so it felt more balanced. But then it's like you

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<v Speaker 5>started moving away from it. You see a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>There was a lot of incomplete passes in this game.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, as I was long it, there was a

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<v Speaker 5>ton of incompletions. And yes, Dak was throwing into some

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<v Speaker 5>tight windows, but even listening to some of the guys

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<v Speaker 5>this week, it sounded like some of the guys weren't

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<v Speaker 5>running the right routes. And I have a hard time

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<v Speaker 5>believing that it's going to get any better with Cooper Rush,

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<v Speaker 5>even though they did get some work with them in

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<v Speaker 5>the preseason, which was different than what they got with Dak.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, most of their meaningful work with the ones

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<v Speaker 5>was during the joint practices.

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<v Speaker 4>But as much as they're saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Publicly how much confidence they have in Dak, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>Cooper Rush, I just have a hard time believing that

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna see this offense suddenly thrill us uh in

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<v Speaker 5>week two.

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<v Speaker 8>I think you could see more of I think you

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<v Speaker 8>could see more spread in the ball just because Cooper

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<v Speaker 8>Rush just he's I DAK and there's no it's no

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<v Speaker 8>knock to Duck. But he's always been a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>more of a conservative, you know, quarterback. There's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 8>with the game manage, there's nothing wrong with that. It's

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<v Speaker 8>not a bad word out.

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<v Speaker 6>Here in these streets.

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<v Speaker 8>But I I do I do see him like not

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<v Speaker 8>being afraid to go down the field a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>I want them to show some type.

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<v Speaker 6>Of vertical threat.

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<v Speaker 8>Just get these guys on their heels, just just have

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<v Speaker 8>those dvs come off the line a little bit more

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<v Speaker 8>like hopefully turp And gets some burn in this game.

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<v Speaker 8>I think they tried them on like this option route

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<v Speaker 8>that was kind of nice. But by that time, nobody

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<v Speaker 8>cares about what you're doing in a run game because

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<v Speaker 8>they know you're gonna go away from it. But I

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<v Speaker 8>hope that it's early that they established some type of like, no,

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<v Speaker 8>we're gonna go down the field a few times, because

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<v Speaker 8>if you're not spread in the ball, why would safeties

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<v Speaker 8>care they're gonna come down and play in the box.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we're gonna go and take a break here real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>But Micah Parsons said the other day that he saw

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<v Speaker 5>this zero to one start as an opportunity and likened

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<v Speaker 5>it the opportunity and the success they had in Week

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<v Speaker 5>two last year.

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<v Speaker 4>Why I take issue with that.

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<v Speaker 5>you by Jigsaw Dating, the official dating partner of the

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<v Speaker 5>Dallas Cowboys. I am impressed with the leadership prowess of

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<v Speaker 5>Micah Parsons in year two. We even saw some of

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<v Speaker 5>that in year one, but he was looking at this

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<v Speaker 5>as an opportunity in week two and he likened it

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<v Speaker 5>to last year when they lost to Marcus Lawrence and

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<v Speaker 5>was just the most random injury at practice and non

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<v Speaker 5>contact drill one of the tackling dummies, and it felt bad,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, heading into especially after you were coming off

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<v Speaker 5>of what felt like a really close win against the

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<v Speaker 5>Bucks and now you're going and facing Justin Herbert and

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<v Speaker 5>the Chargers. But I went back and looked at that game,

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<v Speaker 5>and respectfully Micah, I disagree because while you lost DeMarcus Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 5>Micah ended up stepping up in that game and had

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<v Speaker 5>a sack, Trayvon Diggs had an interception. But specifically, when

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<v Speaker 5>you look at the offense and that one Tony Poler

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<v Speaker 5>had over one hundred yards and that one Ceedee Lamb

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<v Speaker 5>had eighty one yards, I don't know if I have

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<v Speaker 5>this sort of confidence in this offense and their ability

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<v Speaker 5>to respond in week two. In other words, they don't

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<v Speaker 5>have a Micah Parsons that can step up in the

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<v Speaker 5>absence of DeMarcus Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Micah Parsons did so well last year.

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<v Speaker 5>They were going to DeMarcus Lawrence and restructuring his deal,

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<v Speaker 5>and that says everything you used to know about how

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<v Speaker 5>they felt about Micah and what was behind him. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think there's a guy in this offense, specifically at quarterback,

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<v Speaker 5>that is going to do such a good job before

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<v Speaker 5>in the gaps that we're talking to Dak about redoing

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<v Speaker 5>his deal next year.

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously, I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 8>Think I kind of understand, uh the game planning aspect

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<v Speaker 8>of it, to have a similar game plan as the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 8>The Chargers game, I would argue that was obviously one

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<v Speaker 8>of their better running games they got.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, uh, Tony killed them on the edge.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean they got a lot like they struggle with

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<v Speaker 8>outside contain the Chargers did, So you do look at

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<v Speaker 8>this game like you kind of want the similar thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And then Ezekiel Elliott had a whole bunch of yard.

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<v Speaker 8>Like it's I think that they kind of want to

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<v Speaker 8>playoff playoff the run. So I get maybe like compared

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<v Speaker 8>into the Chargers because the game plan may be similar

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<v Speaker 8>as far as like we don't have there's not a

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<v Speaker 8>person on the offense that is Michael Parsons quality.

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<v Speaker 6>To cup in and step in for a deck.

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<v Speaker 8>Like I said, I think it's just gonna be an

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<v Speaker 8>all around thing. This run game is gonna have to

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<v Speaker 8>be productive and actually have some type of succession running

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<v Speaker 8>the ball like that's all.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all.

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<v Speaker 8>But I do understand kind of what he's saying about

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<v Speaker 8>the circumstances with the game, maybe the game planning for

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<v Speaker 8>how they want to tackle being or the Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 7>Be even just the mentality of it, right. I Mean,

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<v Speaker 7>here's the thing. I think, in order for there to

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<v Speaker 7>be any form of a pulse early on in this game,

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<v Speaker 7>the defense is going to have to take more of

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<v Speaker 7>the workload, Let's be honest with it. And I think

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<v Speaker 7>in order to do that, they need to stack up

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<v Speaker 7>the interceptions. They need to put the pressure on Joey

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<v Speaker 7>b They need to get in that pocket, and they

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<v Speaker 7>need to allow him to make those mistakes, and by mistakes,

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<v Speaker 7>it works out for the Cowboys, right Like, you're getting

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<v Speaker 7>the ball, but it's all going to come down to

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<v Speaker 7>your field position. And I think the helping the offense

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<v Speaker 7>in that way of you get them good field position.

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<v Speaker 7>Look what else could you do for them if you're

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<v Speaker 7>if you're getting the interceptions, you're getting them good field position.

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<v Speaker 7>That even goes down to special teams. You know, our

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<v Speaker 7>punts need to be great. Everything needs to be great.

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<v Speaker 7>Turbo Turpin needs to turn on his jets. There so

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<v Speaker 7>many different factors that go into everybody outside of the

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<v Speaker 7>offense stepping up to help the offense and their their

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<v Speaker 7>lack of I mean, I don't even want to call

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<v Speaker 7>it chemistry at this point. I think it's so much I.

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<v Speaker 9>Want to know as far as that, I think that's

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<v Speaker 9>that feels aggressive. But I feel like you you mentioned

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<v Speaker 9>interception chets, and I think you know, obviously I think

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<v Speaker 9>a ton is on the defense. But I think I

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<v Speaker 9>mentioned this the other day when when you when you

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<v Speaker 9>talk about interceptions, it really is like the defense operates

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<v Speaker 9>as this whole massive unit. I'm looking at that front, Steven.

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<v Speaker 9>You know when you when you look back to like

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<v Speaker 9>some of the great defenses, it's those guys up front

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<v Speaker 9>who are creating pressure and therefore creating opportunities for that secondary.

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<v Speaker 9>So Trayvon Diggs like stand up, be ready to DeMarcus

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<v Speaker 9>Lawrence and Michael Parsons like, my eyes are on you.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, Jay, you talked about the league left side

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<v Speaker 9>with this offensive line for you know, the Bengals, this

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<v Speaker 9>has been a problem for them for a minute. Granted

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<v Speaker 9>they came in and they added Lyell on the right,

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<v Speaker 9>but I know that you guys listened to one to

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<v Speaker 9>five through the Fan with DeMarcus Lawrison's interview, and he

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<v Speaker 9>actually made a pretty interesting comment that I actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>I love this, and he said, listen, I watched Lael

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<v Speaker 9>and he had a hard time with t J. Watt,

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<v Speaker 9>So I'm gonna send Michael Parts over there, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>like I'll be over there too. So I actually feel

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<v Speaker 9>like that's going to be a major emphasis for us

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<v Speaker 9>to be watching this weekend and what this defensive front

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<v Speaker 9>can actually produce, and then therefore, you know, create opportunities

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<v Speaker 9>for Trayvon Diggs and the guys to create better filled

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<v Speaker 9>position for you know, the team moving Ford.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Well, they had a hard enough time shutting

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<v Speaker 5>down Julio Jones last week. How are they gonna how

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<v Speaker 5>are they gonna hold up against Jamar.

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<v Speaker 8>Chase Well, I well, I mean as far as the

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<v Speaker 8>secondary goes, it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 5>The no jy Ron Curse, you're gonna be leaning on Izzy,

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<v Speaker 5>who wasn't even dressed out last week.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Donovan Wilson still had a good game filling

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<v Speaker 8>in for jay Ron Curse.

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<v Speaker 6>I looked at him this game.

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<v Speaker 8>It sounds like Marquise Bell and Israel gonna get some

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<v Speaker 8>burns too.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 8>I said earlier that I think that the safety play

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<v Speaker 8>is going to be so important in this game, because

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<v Speaker 8>if you can replicate at all what Mika Fitzpatrick did,

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<v Speaker 8>then they're gonna have a problem.

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<v Speaker 6>What to your point, Yes.

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<v Speaker 8>The Cowboys have to cap they if the defense does

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<v Speaker 8>get turnovers, they.

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<v Speaker 6>Have to capitalize off of them. Yes, because when you

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<v Speaker 6>look at that that game last week, it's shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 6>been that close.

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<v Speaker 8>When you're when the opposing team has that many turnouts

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<v Speaker 8>like Cincinnati had what five turnovers? Yeah, and Pittsburgh they

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<v Speaker 8>couldn't capitalize fully. They weren't turning those into sevens. Like

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<v Speaker 8>they weren't putting points on the board with those turnovers.

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<v Speaker 8>So Brett Maher is gonna Brett Maher is gonna have

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<v Speaker 8>to be ready.

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<v Speaker 7>Brett Maher better come and save the day. That's all

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<v Speaker 7>I'm saying. If he needs to, he needs to be ready.

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<v Speaker 7>And that goes along with just everybody else being on

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<v Speaker 7>the ready.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well to your point, what was it thirty three

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<v Speaker 5>Tampa Bay's forty eight Donovan Wilson last week had the interception,

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<v Speaker 5>uh with the past intended for what's his face?

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<v Speaker 4>And they didn't capitalize. Yeah, you know, here we are

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 5>It was Tampa Bay nineteen Dallas three, and they literally

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't do anything with it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just and listening to all.

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<v Speaker 5>Of you talk, it sounds like they've got to play

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<v Speaker 5>fairly error free football. And I can't say that I've

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<v Speaker 5>got the call, and maybe I'm wrong. I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to speak for the rest of you, But are you

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<v Speaker 5>that confident that this team can play error free football

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<v Speaker 5>against the Bengals?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 8>But they're also coming off of a very erroneous game,

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<v Speaker 8>so they are trying to come in here and get

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<v Speaker 8>their feel too. Is it?

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<v Speaker 4>But they still have Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 8>Tracking that they definitely have more. Yeah, absolutely, I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>taking anything away from what they can do offensively.

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<v Speaker 6>Also, their defense has earned it.

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<v Speaker 8>They've earned the respect that they have now like they've

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<v Speaker 8>earned that they put that roster together with their million

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<v Speaker 8>first round picks.

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<v Speaker 6>This is how it goes.

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<v Speaker 8>But at the same time, I'm like, they're both in

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<v Speaker 8>a place to where I'm not sure about I'm more

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<v Speaker 8>sure about their receiving core and what they do, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>But at the same time, I'm not sure about either

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:50.399
<v Speaker 8>one's Like offensive line is gonna be amazing. I think

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 8>Dallas's offensive line has the opportunity to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 8>But Cincinnati's offensive line, they're left and right tackle, no

0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.160
<v Speaker 8>offensive leyl Collins. But if I'm looking at the film,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm like, I'm going at him. I'm going at him,

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<v Speaker 8>and I think that both teams could see some success

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 8>rushing the past or this game.

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<v Speaker 5>I think what concerned me in that game, and I

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<v Speaker 5>know it sounds like doom and gloom and it's sounding

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<v Speaker 5>really bleak this week when you listen to me talk

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 5>but on NFL Network and here what concerns me is

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 5>what their defense was able to do against the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 5>Limiting Chase Claypool, limiting Naji Harris, weathering five turnovers.

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<v Speaker 6>I you think that Pittsburgh, you think Pittsburgh's offense is worse.

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<v Speaker 4>Than I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that Pittsburgh's offense is better than Dallas.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't know if I believe the defense can

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<v Speaker 5>hold up as long as their defense did against the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 8>I think you have the debt to do it. I think,

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<v Speaker 8>especially on the defensive line. I thought the DT's played

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 8>pretty well this past game. Really, where the success of

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 8>the Bucks came from was the left.

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<v Speaker 6>Side of the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 8>So they were running, they were running at Dorans, they

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.439
<v Speaker 8>were running at Laateon, they were you know, they were

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<v Speaker 8>running at that side trying to get trying to catch

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<v Speaker 8>tray Von Diggs having to come up and tackle.

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<v Speaker 6>So I feel like, pressure wise, I just want to see.

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<v Speaker 8>I do want to see more pressure from the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 8>defensive line. Granted you're not playing, you're not playing to

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:10.639
<v Speaker 8>Tom Brady, that just gonna get the ball out like that,

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.360
<v Speaker 8>Joey Joe Joe Blurrow will hold onto the ball.

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 6>He will hold onto the ball.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm like, that to me, plays into what you

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<v Speaker 8>want to do defensively, Honestly, Like at this point, I'm like,

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 8>I'm trying to.

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<v Speaker 4>Just see because well, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Both of you guys are fairly optim I think more

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<v Speaker 5>optimistic than Kelsey and I are heading into.

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<v Speaker 4>This game, and I am just curious as to why.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's the thing, here's and I'm sure there's fans that

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<v Speaker 5>want to hear the why because they want to be optimistic.

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 4>It's just and maybe they'll surprise me.

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<v Speaker 5>But I would say this to Cowboys fans if they go,

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<v Speaker 5>oh and too do you know how likely it is

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 5>that owe and to start teams that teams that start

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<v Speaker 5>owing to make it to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 5>Say I'm not saying right off the season, but I'm

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<v Speaker 5>but what I'm saying is it doesn't look good.

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 7>And what you also have to keep it mine too.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm not trying to be you know, pessimistic over

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<v Speaker 7>here either, but look at the division, look at the

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 7>rest of the division and the Eagles. Yeah, that was

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.120
<v Speaker 7>the wild. That was wild. But even the Eagles, they

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 7>did a really good I think they had a really

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 7>good offseason in building their team. I really think they

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.400
<v Speaker 7>were productive. And you know, as much as I love

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 7>to hate on the Eagles, you can't when they're being

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<v Speaker 7>productive and they are going to be a legitimate threat

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<v Speaker 7>to the NFC East. This team cannot afford to lose,

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 7>and they also can't afford to just say, Okay, well,

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 7>what if you know, we lose and then Dak comes back.

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 7>Dak can save it all, don't. I don't necessarily think

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 7>it's fair to put Dak in that position either. So

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 7>in the meantime, I'm trying to be optimistic here and

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<v Speaker 7>saying that, look, it couldn't be much worse than what

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 7>we saw last week pre Dak injury. Right, it couldn't

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:56.400
<v Speaker 7>be much worse given you add Cooper Rush in this mix.

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 7>I am not going to count Cooper Rush out just yet,

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 7>and that's only because I don't think we've seen enough

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.640
<v Speaker 7>of him to be able to say that we've seen

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 7>Cooper Rush. See there we go. But the thing is

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 7>we can we can't. Me my Cowboys fan brain is saying, look,

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 7>if if the defense was able to hold Tom Brady

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 7>to nineteen points last week, I think you really rely

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<v Speaker 7>heavily on leaning on the defense and leaning on the

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 7>run game, two things that you do absolutely have. You

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.120
<v Speaker 7>have two good running backs, you got the fuss, They.

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<v Speaker 5>Lost Chris Godwin in the game and couldn't even capitalize

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<v Speaker 5>on it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what concerns me.

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 6>And part of the reason, but part of the reason.

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Why one real threatnight.

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<v Speaker 8>The only optimism that you're that you're finding for me

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 8>is the fact that I do think that Dallas has

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 8>the pieces to replicate what the Steelers did last week. Now,

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 8>granted they were playing very inspired football because of the

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 8>Black Forces, because of Mike Tomlin, but I do think

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 8>that you still.

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<v Speaker 6>Have the pieces to come out.

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<v Speaker 7>Here and playing White.

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 6>I'm just being honest.

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 8>I know Mike mccarthur ain't pulling out no Black forces,

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 8>but at the same.

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<v Speaker 6>Time, like Damn Quinn, he actually might.

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 8>But I do listening to the defensive players, it sounds

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 8>like they understand the gravity of the situation and that

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 8>they're going to have to come out to play.

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 6>So that gives me home.

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 7>At the end of the day, we can just see

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 7>what happened.

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 8>But on the offense, with the running the ballpark, I

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 8>know everybody's like weird about run the ball The Tampa

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 8>Bay Bucks defensive line is no joke.

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 6>It's no joke.

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 8>And if the Cowboys didn't beat themselves with penalties, they

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 8>probably would have continued to move the ball.

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 6>Like you said, we didn't get the chance to see it.

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 8>So I personally think that what Tampa Bay has on

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 8>their defensive line is heavier than what is on the

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 8>Bengals defensive line, even the linebacker position, all respect to

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 8>you know, to what they have at the Bengals linebacker wise,

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 8>But like Devin White and those guys are a different level,

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 8>and I feel like the Cowboys did see some success there.

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 8>They went away from it. So this is a wait

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 8>and see game for me. I don't know about everybody else.

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 8>I'm trying to see what they do with it. And

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 8>then after that, I see what happens with Cooper Rush

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 8>with a number one situation with the number one level

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 8>offensive line and all that stuff, and I'll.

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:08.959
<v Speaker 6>See what he does.

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 7>And you're remember that was only week one, right, and

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 7>and that's that's for everybody. That's for the fan base.

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 7>Like this guy was falling on Twitter this week, and

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 7>it's it's weak.

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 9>Well why I understand why.

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 7>I get it. I get it, Like I feel the frustration.

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.120
<v Speaker 9>I get it, honestly feel like at the same time, though,

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 9>like we keep on talking about like they're not capitalizing

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 9>and they're not doing this, and I can't help go

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 9>back to the fact that, like are they even capable

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 9>of doing that with the tools this front office has

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 9>set them up to have at their availability for the season,

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 9>Like I just that's where I struggle, Like I really do.

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 9>We're saying like, well, they need to capitalize, they need

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 9>to like you know, the defense, Like, yes, defense can

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 9>get you filled with this is but then what is

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 9>Cooper Rush and Ceedee Lamb and the lack of a

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 9>consistent run game going to then turn around.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 12>And do with it.

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 9>Like that's where I have the hardest. I'm where I

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 9>need a little bit more of them holding up their

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 9>end of the bargain because the defense can can do

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 9>as much as they can do. But like, if you

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 9>can't score points, doesn't matter. Like there's a team in basketball,

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 9>Grinnell College who literally does not play defense. They just

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 9>go down the court and they shoot three pointers. But

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 9>it's not the other way around where they don't score

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 9>points and they only play defense. Like that's not how

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 9>the formula works. So like that's where I have my

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 9>biggest CONCERNU. I'm like, I kind of wish the tables

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 9>were turned a little bit where I could at least

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 9>rely to get someone on the board who's like going

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 9>to be able to get me points. And I just

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 9>that's where I struggle.

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, and I think the other thing that just

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 5>stands out to me, I was listening to you know,

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 5>we've talked about penalties a lot this week on the show,

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 5>and rightfully so. Jerry Jones was asked about that I

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 5>want to fight to the fan this morning, and even

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 5>he conceded that there's been such a point of emphasis on.

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 7>Penalties, but when do we see that?

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 4>That's my frustration.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean last year, even before the Broncos game, I'll

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 5>never forget my card saying they had spent one of

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 5>the days specifically on penalties.

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like a major focus.

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 5>And I know this was a mad and even Jerry

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 5>was talking about the day like, we know it's a

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 5>point ofments. We got to continue focusing on that. And

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 5>so essentially it was across the board. I mean, you're

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 5>talking about holding people other than just the players accountable.

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean it's I guess it's on the coaches too,

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 5>but ultimately kind of bringing the thing full circle, Kellen

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 5>Moore has to do a better job of putting his

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 5>players in a.

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 4>Position to succeed. And I guess the question I have.

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 5>And even though Jerry's response, even when asked if this

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 5>was a predictable offense, he said, well, we went twelve

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 5>and five last year, all right, fair enough, fair enough,

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 5>but I just if removed that record twelve and five.

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 5>When you look at some of these games, do you

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 5>think that Kellen Moore has done a good enough job

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 5>of putting some of his players in a position to

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 5>succeed and this is where he's really gonna get tested

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 5>this year because he got to, because he has to.

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 5>It was an embarrassing of riches with some of the

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 5>talent that he had last year on this roster.

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 7>I'm going back to last season just looking at the penalties,

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 7>because you were talking about the Denver game with the

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<v Speaker 7>amount of penalties, and it just made me think of

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 7>even Thanksgiving the Raiders game with fourteen penalties, given that

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 7>was on both sides of the ball.

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Right now, were the most penaltist team in the league

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 4>last year.

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<v Speaker 7>Do I have to remind you of the lucky number again?

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 7>But one twenty seven, one hundred and twenty seven penalties

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 7>is never acceptable. And to me, look, I don't know

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 7>how to run a football team. I'm not saying I do.

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 7>But at the end of the day, if you are

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 7>leading the league in the wrong things as the amount

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 7>of penalties that your team had that cost you over

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 7>a thousand yards last season, how is there? How are

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 7>we still seeing the amount of penalties that we have seen.

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 5>Some of its I think it's youth too, right try

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 5>and they've got a lot of youth on this team,

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 5>and we've mentioned that I think you've got a lot

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:55.719
<v Speaker 5>of I think a lot of guys are trying to

0:31:55.720 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 5>do too much. They're prussing a lot a lots being asked.

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 5>And this goes back to your argument, Kelsey, when you're

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 5>relying on these young guys so much and you're not

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 5>bringing in some of these veteran free agents, this is

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 5>sort of what you're going to get. There are going

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 5>to be these growing pains, and I guess the only

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 5>silver lining for me is the reason why the defense

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 5>played so well last year, I think is because in

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 5>Mike McCarthy's first year, they were forced to play.

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 4>So many young guys.

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I think some of that experience met with

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 5>the right coach to put players in the best position

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 5>to succeed. All of that translated into success. And so

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying I'm writing off the season, you know,

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 5>with sixteen games to go, but it just doesn't feel

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 5>like you've got the right personnel and maybe in some positions,

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 5>the right coach to get the most out of what

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 5>you've got on your roster.

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 8>Now you're and I think me and you talked about

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 8>like it hasn't It hasn't been a lot to talk

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 8>about it, but the Cowboys brought in a new wide

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 8>receiver coach this year, and.

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 5>For people that may not know, Adam Henry is responsible

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 5>for coaching up guys like OBJ and Jarvis Landry at LSU.

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so I don't know if that at all. So

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 8>you also have a new coach in here coaching up

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 8>these guys. Maybe the techniques different, maybe the way he

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 8>wants to like all this stuff matters. And I one

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 8>thing that I saw from Cdee Lamb. I don't think

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 8>I really saw a lot from that from him last year.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 8>But he had two penalties if I'm not mistaken this

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 8>game offensive pass interference where he's pushing off of guys

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 8>and he doesn't.

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 6>You don't need to be doing that. What are you doing?

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 5>It feels a little desperate, right, Yeah, He's desperation out there,

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 5>And part of.

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 6>That is the fact that I feel like it's a

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 6>part of it.

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 8>I feel like a lot of is the play calling,

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 8>Like I really do feel like it. And hold I

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 8>hope people accountable. We talked about accountability. Ceedee Lamb is

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 8>gonna have to play better. He's going to have to

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 8>concentrate through these grabs. He's gonna have to He's going

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 8>to have to catch balls even if they're not perfect

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 8>sometimes because we hold Deck accountable as well for not

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 8>having a great game, But that gentleman's gonna have to

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 8>step up there as well.

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 7>And I think there's a difference between growing pains and

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 7>then what you're actually seeing at the Cowboys. Because it's

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 7>okay to have growing pain. I'm not saying you're gonna

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 7>have a penalty free game with the amount of rookies

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 7>that are being asked to step up right now, I'm

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 7>not saying that. But at what point is is it

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 7>not a growing pain anymore? Because this seems like a

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 7>heavier weight than a growing pain. This seems like issues

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 7>that have carried on since last year and and essentially

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 7>were the reasonings behind the Cowboys not making a deeper

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 7>playoff run than they did, and a lot of the

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 7>same issues. Mistake, correct me if I'm wrong, Aisha. We're

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 7>seeing from the forty nine Ers game into the Bucks game.

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 6>It's almost identical.

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 7>And when does that's not a growing pains. That's I

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 7>don't even know where to start with that. That's so

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 7>many little things that have built up and built up

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 7>and built up. But when do you get to start

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 7>to see the pressures of those things being addressed one

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.919
<v Speaker 7>by one because there's a lot of things just going

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 7>on at once.

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 8>I do think that I personally, I do have fight

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 8>that Terrance still a plays better. And that's just because

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 8>one of the whole that he got he literally lost

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 8>his helmet.

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 6>The guy fell.

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 4>They called a whole.

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 6>It was craziness.

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 8>But then the other you know, the false starts where

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 8>I want him to be confident and everyone talks about

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 8>him being confident. I listened to his interviews and stuff,

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 8>but he was You could tell that he was unsure.

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 8>Maybe that was the cadence changing. These are things we

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 8>don't talk about, like the communication of the like of

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 8>the offensive line with these new offensive line and being installed,

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 8>the quarterback being installed, all that stuff. So I expect

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 8>for Terrence Steel to have a better game. I don't

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 8>think he played bad, but the penalties were so detrimental

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 8>that it's difficult to look past.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 6>And you know, his play.

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 7>That outshined how he played at the end of the day.

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 7>Because you ask anybody this week, hey, Terrence Steele, and

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 7>everyone's gonna go, oh, three penalties in a row. You know,

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 7>it outshines you and really it. It just there was

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 7>a pulse to that game. At some point, there was

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 7>a pulse. There was a little baby pulse, right, It

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 7>wasn't a big pulse, but there was a pulse. And

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 7>those kind of things that give you just the lack

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 7>of advantage with the feel position sets you back. And

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 7>and that's what I'm talking to. Those are pre snap

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 7>penalties that are just so unacceptable for this team. And

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 7>and so, okay, Jane, back to your point.

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 4>So I was going to chime in there.

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 5>I was like, the fulls lasted five minutes and fifty

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 5>eight on a fourteen.

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 7>Right, But to your point of why are you so optimistic?

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 7>Here's the thing. Do I think the Cowboys could win

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 7>this game? Yes? I do, but they have to at

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.439
<v Speaker 7>least show improvement. That's what I'm looking for this week

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 7>is do I always want the Cowboys to win?

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 6>How that is?

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 4>That's where the bar is got, you know what?

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 7>But do I want to see a win? Always? Yes?

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.840
<v Speaker 7>But do I want to get my call for my

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 7>dad upset that they lost? No, of course not. But

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 7>at the end of the day, like I want to

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 7>see improvement, that there's a pulse for the season, not

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 7>just talking about it we see in the middle.

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 9>L Like, let me ask you guys this, like because

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 9>I if I put my fan hat on, like I

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 9>feel that, like as someone who you know has worked

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 9>for this team full time, like I understand it's the

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 9>worst coming back into the facility on a Monday and

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 9>you just got beat so bad and you're like this sucks,

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 9>you know, and like everyone's in a bad mood, like

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 9>you're just overall impacted personally when the team loses. But

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 9>then if I like take a step back, I'm like, Okay,

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 9>everything that we just talked about today, what about the

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 9>fact of maybe we look at like a moral victory

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 9>as the goal, Like is that more realistic for this

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 9>stint in between when when I know, I know that

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 9>I feel that, I feel that, but like, is it

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 9>a moral Okay?

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 5>Last weekend, Kelsey, is it a moral victory if they

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 5>get a win over the Bengals after what we saw

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 5>last week against the Steelers? Like are we as high

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 5>on the Bengals right now as we were when the

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 5>season started? Because more when you looked at week two, like,

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, the Bingles are coming into town, Like

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 5>look at it's Murder's Row, right, Like right, But if

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 5>but if we see a performance in the Bengals like

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 5>we saw against the Steelers and the Cowboys managed to

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 5>pull off a winner, feeling any better on Monday, because

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 5>that's a very Dallas thing to do, for us to

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 5>say like they've got no chance and then for them

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 5>to go get a win.

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 4>Against the Bengals.

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 8>And that's why I just said I'm waiting to see

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 8>in But I will say that, yeah, against their defense.

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I still think if you if you can.

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 8>Score against their defense, their defense is no Their secondary,

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 8>their safeties are no joke, Like, yeah, if you can

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:26.280
<v Speaker 8>do anything with them, would I would expect their secondary?

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 6>Their secondary is a little bit all right, safeties?

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 4>Tell you what.

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna take us to a break, and I want

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 5>you guys to marinate on this when we come back.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 5>I want you guys to tell me what offensive player

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 5>is going to step up and we're gonna be talking

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 5>about on Monday.

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 7>I like this, all right.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome back to.

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<v Speaker 5>Girls Talk, Boys Talk, brought to you by Jigsaw Dating,

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<v Speaker 5>the official dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, Kelsey Charles.

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<v Speaker 4>You work for about a million different companies.

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<v Speaker 5>When you're not doing this, and one of them is

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<v Speaker 5>But you were outfitting the head coach last night and

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<v Speaker 8>Did, so.

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<v Speaker 9>I did tell you guys, look at it yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 9>was going to hold them back unless he won the game.

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<v Speaker 9>I failed in that regard, but I did think it

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<v Speaker 9>was really interesting. I was talking to him and just

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<v Speaker 9>obviously it's been a tough year thus far and the

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<v Speaker 9>one gang we played, and he was like, listen, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>dealing with failure sucks. But I actually would argue that

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<v Speaker 9>dealing with success is harder, and especially in a place

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<v Speaker 9>like Dallas. I mean, we've watched this team in years

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<v Speaker 9>past where, like you just said off the air, Jane,

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<v Speaker 9>like they start to feel themselves a little bit, right,

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<v Speaker 9>Like you know, they get their swag and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 9>like we're pretty good despite the fact like maybe they

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 9>had a rough time before and then Vick Banjo comes

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<v Speaker 9>in town and you're like, what just happened? So I think,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, for me, I would look at this upcoming

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<v Speaker 9>weekend as a really big test. I'm of the mindset

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 9>where I'm stacking little victories. I want to stay humble.

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 9>I need them to fix a lot of things. But like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I'll take a little bit of a moral victory. And offensively,

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<v Speaker 9>if you guys asking me a player, like, give me

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<v Speaker 9>Tony Pollard. I need to see a lot of him

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<v Speaker 9>this weekend. He's the guy that I'm gonna look forward

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<v Speaker 9>to add a lot to this team, all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, are you sure?

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 6>Ezekiel Elliott?

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<v Speaker 8>For me, I with the Bengals defense, like their safeties

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<v Speaker 8>come down and I want to make their safeties have

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<v Speaker 8>to come down and tackle. So I want, I really

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 8>want them to run the ball hard. And I think

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<v Speaker 8>Ezekiel Elliott, the way that he in the way he

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 8>does run the ball can help tire out that defense

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 8>that kind of flies around for them.

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<v Speaker 6>So for me, that's that's my guy.

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<v Speaker 8>He sounds like he's prepared listen to his interview to

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<v Speaker 8>take a lot of the weight.

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<v Speaker 6>I hope they put it on him. He has legs

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<v Speaker 6>in them. Man, let's go.

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<v Speaker 7>He's still mine. But I'm gonna I'm gonna change I'm

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<v Speaker 7>gonna change mine up and I'm gonna say chasing the

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<v Speaker 7>storm Dalton Schultz because here's the thing. I think he

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<v Speaker 7>was a clutch guy and that doesn't really say much

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 7>last week, right, But I think if the wide receiver

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 7>group isn't capable of stepping up. I really think you're

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<v Speaker 7>gonna see those short passes to him, and I think

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 7>he hasn't given us a reason to think he's not

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<v Speaker 7>gonna to make the catches when he needs to be clutched.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm gonna go Dalton Schultz.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd love to see them be able to establish the

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<v Speaker 5>run and have it be successful, and they they've shown

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 5>us that they can do that before. But if you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to be focused so much on Ezekiel Elliott and

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 5>you're focused on Ceedee lamb, give.

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<v Speaker 4>Me Noah Brown.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, let no a Brown step up. If they're

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.399
<v Speaker 5>not giving him a lot of respect. He just needs

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 5>to run the right routes and he needs and I

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 5>would imagine that Noah and Cooper have gotten a lot

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 5>of work together. Yeah, you know, as more two guys,

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 5>second team guys. So give me Noah Brown. I do

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 5>want to highlight when we look at the schedule, when

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 5>you talk about filling themselves, let's assume they start off

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 5>oher and one. Then they've got the Giants on the

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 5>road Monday night football. Then they've got commanders here, then

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:05.919
<v Speaker 5>they've got the Rams just where they could definitely fill

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:06.320
<v Speaker 5>the brakes.

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 4>And then they've got the Eagles game.

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<v Speaker 5>This is going to be an interesting stretch here because

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 5>they are divisional games, because they do count. That's why

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<v Speaker 5>I fully expect to see Michael Gallup in Week three.

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 5>I think that's when you're really gonna see them, is

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<v Speaker 5>when they're playing within the division. But when you look

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<v Speaker 5>at yeah, but when you look at that schedule. All right,

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 5>so one too of of the after the Bengals game one, two, three,

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 5>four games because then they've got the Lions after that.

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 5>What's their record in those four Aysha Caronicles.

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<v Speaker 7>Jane, don't do this.

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 6>Stay again, State of State. It seams again.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got Giants, Okay, there Monday night football. Then they've

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 5>got a noon game with the Commanders. Then they've got

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 5>the Rams, uh, which I believe is on the road. Nope,

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 5>that's yep, there are on the road for that one.

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 4>And then they've got the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 8>Damn, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say to two to

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 8>be safe. Okay, Barnacles, I didn't. You didn't.

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 6>That's for detail. I was cheating, just trying to get

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:13.320
<v Speaker 6>something out.

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<v Speaker 8>Com Yeah, that's the only all ones because I think Philly,

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 8>as much as I can't stand that Green, has some

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 8>nice things going on over there.

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 6>Like that a J.

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 8>Brown and Jalen Hirst situation looks like a real thing now.

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 8>Defensively running you can run the ball on them.

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 6>But other than that, like that's still gonna be a

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 6>battle because the divisional game, I don't know, I say

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 6>too or two. And it may be that Rams game

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 6>looking real iffy right now to me.

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 5>For the Giants, don't you pause and you think about

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:48.959
<v Speaker 5>this offensive line?

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 7>And yep, And here's another factor that could plan to

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 7>that too, is Jack's return. If it's the earlier return,

0:45:57.080 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 7>then we're thinking we think it's six weeks, right, but

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 7>you know we're we're playing. I'm just saying, right, what

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.320
<v Speaker 7>if exactly actually to be determined?

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 8>Actually, because they left the door tompetition, it sounds like it's.

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 6>A little bit of a door.

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 7>I'm just saying, I don't think what we're seeing right

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 7>now could necessarily be what we see come the Eagles game.

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 7>I really, for any position offensively, I I'm gonna I'm

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 7>gonna y'all do with that what you will. But I

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 7>think the commanders they have the best chance to win

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 7>that game, and the Giants. Maybe I want to be

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 7>optimistic and say yes, I just there's so many like.

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 5>Our positive pad on the Panels, so Pat Doni at

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 5>NBC five is always the positive one. But I sense

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 5>trumpidation there, Kelsey, Did I get yours before I wrap

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<v Speaker 5>this up?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, listen, I might. I might even go as

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 9>far as it goes three in one because I feel

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 9>like this team is a pretty good job of flitting

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 9>divisional games. I have my Carson Wentz means ready, so

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 9>like I'm to give them the win with the Commanders,

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 9>I think the Giants, I'll take the win there Rams.

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 9>I'm obvious reasons taking the l and Eagles could kind

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 9>of go either way, depend on how Hurts, if he's

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 9>developed into like who they want him to be. But

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 9>you know that's kind of where my heads. I kind

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 9>of the Eagles is the one where I could go.

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 8>I could go either way on the OK but the

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 8>Rams are having a similar problem as the Cowboys right now,

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.879
<v Speaker 8>with Cooper Rush being the only guy. You just made

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 8>me think about it though that we saw offensively, they

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:32.800
<v Speaker 8>are in a place to where they're kind of scrambling

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 8>too for answers other than Cooper Cup.

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so let me ask you this, who do you

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 5>trust more as your head coach? Sean mcvayer.

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 7>The podcast that.

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<v Speaker 4>We are going to wrap this one up.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope that we're talking victory Monday. I don't enjoy

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 5>being the wet blanket here for fans when we do

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:52.399
<v Speaker 5>this show.

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 4>I just but it would be a very Dallas thing

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 4>to do to go win.

0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 5>This game and get everyone's optimism and particularly Jerry's going again.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for tuning in to yet another week of

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<v Speaker 5>Girls Talk, Boys Talk, and we will see you here

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<v Speaker 5>next Monday, right after all the press conferences.

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<v Speaker 7>Go Cowboys.

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