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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're taking lessons from how

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Speaker 1: to retire from Brandon Graham. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm in

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Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio. I'm here with my friend

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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodrigue of the Athletic and Yes, Brandon Graham retired

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and one of the last things he did

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Speaker 1: in his career was talk to NFL Daily What a

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Speaker 1: way to Go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that interview too. He brought his kids.

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Speaker 2: His kids answered some questions for us as well. He

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Speaker 2: was emotional. He at that time was adamant that he

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Speaker 2: was going to walk into the sunset at that time

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Speaker 2: and he said he probably wasn't going to change his mind. So, man,

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Speaker 2: what an icon iconic for the franchise and for our league.

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Speaker 1: It's so hard to stick a landing. You you really

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Speaker 1: appreciate players that are able to do so because it's

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Speaker 1: just so rare. I was thinking of it. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about Travis Kelcey and his podcast and just how

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Speaker 1: brutal that loss was for him and how.

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Speaker 3: Tough at it.

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Speaker 1: If they had won that game, maybe he does retire

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Speaker 1: because he feels like he stuck the landing and instead

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Speaker 1: he seems like, not only is he haunted in the

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Speaker 1: moment from it, but he's aware that that game is

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Speaker 1: going to haunt him, probably for the rest of his life,

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Speaker 1: whether he wins another one or not. So you love

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Speaker 1: it when a guy goes out on his own terms.

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Speaker 1: That's what Brandon Graham did. We're going to go through

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Speaker 1: all the news today. There's some fun stuff, and then

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to a segment that Jordan came

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Speaker 1: up with. Things that will matter in December, matter things

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Speaker 1: that you know have happened so far in this free

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Speaker 1: agency period. We've done a lot of like daily news,

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Speaker 1: but we haven't done a lot of looking back, So

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Speaker 1: looking back at what's happened and projecting forward, you know

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Speaker 1: some of the moves that are going to matter long term.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well it might as well start with Graham.

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Speaker 1: We already started the conversation. He officially retired on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and he gave an emotional press conference.

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Speaker 3: Let's listen to the beginning of it.

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Speaker 4: First.

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Speaker 5: I just want to say thank you to everybody.

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Speaker 3: Already.

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Speaker 5: But uh, y'all know I gave everything I had, everything

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Speaker 5: I had in this and uh, I don't have no regrets.

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Speaker 5: That's one thing you gotta tell you have boys don't

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Speaker 5: have no regrets.

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Speaker 1: I thought it thinking of how sometimes in dumb sports

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Speaker 1: talk radio or even just like among friends, like a

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Speaker 1: conversation is like, well, whose career would you rather have,

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Speaker 1: like this superstar with the titles, I mean, without any titles,

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Speaker 3: And to me, I'd rather be the Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Graham, like an all time eagle that stayed there the

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Speaker 1: whole time, has a game ending Super Bowl moment, literally

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Speaker 1: ends his career, coming back from an injury and being

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Speaker 1: part of a great Super Bowl defense. I think I'd

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Speaker 1: rather I'd rather do that than the money without the championship,

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Speaker 1: because he got plenty of money either way, and he.

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Speaker 2: Also got the championships, so like he gets both. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he is a beloved figure in that community. The I

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Speaker 2: remember reading stories a couple of years ago about just

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Speaker 2: the work that you know, he and his wife do

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Speaker 2: both have been collectively that family.

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Speaker 6: They are royalty there, and I think that's so wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I think cities like Philadelphia they do it, if not

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Speaker 2: better than at the at the highest level of treating

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Speaker 2: their stars like homegrown legends, like heroes for the right reasons,

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Speaker 2: for the fact that they that branded that the Grahams

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Speaker 2: have been so invested in the community as well as

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Speaker 2: contributed to this franchise given Eagles fans some of the

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Speaker 2: finest memories and the ultimate highs, and like I I'll

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Speaker 2: never forget. I mean, I'm not an Eagles fan, I

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Speaker 2: enjoy them quite a bit. But watching Brandon Graham walk

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Speaker 2: out to the fifty on the fifty two midfield for

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Speaker 2: like hard plastic brace I've ever seen, and knowing that

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Speaker 2: he was going to go out and actually get some

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Speaker 6: And that's what you do. And I just think, you know, it's.

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Speaker 2: A hard sport, it's a hard league because you don't

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Speaker 2: often get to retire on your terms. You don't get

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Speaker 2: that walk into the sunset moment, but it happens just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said in that interview with us on

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Speaker 1: But how difficult this season was that his family was

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Speaker 1: of player development. When Brandon Graham's first contract ended, he

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Speaker 1: had a total in five seasons because back then first

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Speaker 1: round were just five seasons, there was no fifthyear option.

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Speaker 1: That's how long he has been in the league. He

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Speaker 1: had sixteen and a half sacks total. His first four

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Speaker 1: is a victory story of a valuing pressure over just

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Speaker 1: in his career. And also, like PFF, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Graham ranks so high and people were like Brandon Graham

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Speaker 1: really and the Eagles saw it. They kept paying him.

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Speaker 1: He gets a second team All Pro, eventually a comeback

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year, a couple of Pro Bowls, but

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Speaker 1: ultimately like a haul of very good guy in terms

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Speaker 1: all time Eagles. The Eagles were also very active in

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Speaker 3: Lane Johnson got a big raise, which.

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Speaker 1: Is nice, just early, you know, like right, he actually

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Speaker 1: because that's what they do, take care of their great guys.

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Speaker 1: And then they also signed one of the highest players

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Speaker 1: And uh, I guess you got to queue the que

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Speaker 1: the SoundBite here, like say it with me?

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Speaker 3: How he does it again? All right? I think we

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Speaker 3: did well there. How he does it again? Just everyone's

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Speaker 2: I said, dead, whoops, It's all good. I even changed

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Speaker 2: it in the document. How he does it again and

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Speaker 2: again and again and again. Pay a guy, I really

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Speaker 2: it's just it's like the one too.

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Speaker 1: He said something telling I thought at one of the

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Speaker 1: as much. Now he did bring in to Dori Jackson,

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Speaker 1: for a situational pass rusher. One item from one of

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Speaker 1: our friends that popped up over the weekend that I

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Speaker 1: did want to talk about on this show was Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett speaking to Andrew Ceciliano. This is from Andrew's podcast

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Speaker 1: with the Browns, called the best available podcast.

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Speaker 3: In all serious. Do you know who the quarterback is

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Speaker 3: going to be? I mean, do you have an idea?

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Speaker 3: After conversations, I do have an idea. Okay, do you

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Speaker 4: I like it enough to be here smiling in front

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Speaker 4: of you because I think we have a good chance

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Speaker 3: Can you tell us who it is. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 2: I love that because Andrew, this is a team podcast.

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Speaker 2: He works, he does great work for that team, and

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Speaker 2: still he asks these questions. He gets the people what

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Speaker 1: I love it because and I texted Andrew and I

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Speaker 3: I was like, who do you think he's talking about?

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Speaker 3: He's like, I have no idea. He doesn't know.

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Speaker 1: But he asked those questions because Miles hinted at it

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Speaker 1: That's surprising too, so he followed up, good job by him.

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Speaker 1: It's now got a million views on Twitter or something

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Speaker 2: It is also the perfect thing to say when you

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's it's a great that's a cynical view.

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Speaker 2: I'm just presenting. I'm just presenting thoughts here, you know,

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Speaker 3: A close up on his face as he said he had.

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Speaker 6: I did like the smirk.

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Speaker 3: I like it did feel like he he had an idea,

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Speaker 6: I mean you putting me on the spot here. I

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Speaker 6: don't know. Do you think they'll trade for somebody or

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Speaker 3: We talked to each other, We asked questions about football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I cam Ward, if they

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Speaker 1: That would be the only one if I was Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett that would get me excited. That I think is

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Speaker 1: the most logical answer. Andrew said he heard from a

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Speaker 3: That one actually does make sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're Miles Garrett and you're like, we're going

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Speaker 1: to make an effort to trade up to one Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 1: I think would be the next most logical because of

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Speaker 1: this offseason, Stefanski, the history there would that make Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett smirk and be happy?

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you know, players.

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Speaker 1: Recognize other players who are good, and maybe he's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 3: Actually legitimate quarterback. I would be excited about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in that offense, though, if that Kubiak the more

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Speaker 2: gotta not just be hurt all year your cynical answer.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling cynical today. I don't know what's wrong with me.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: More logical It's like the vacuum effect, where like they're there,

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Speaker 1: They're the They're the closest team. Those top three teams

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Speaker 4: I ain't doing that the darkness, darkness, treat retreat. I

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Speaker 4: That's the pitch. Like if you want me to recruit,

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Speaker 3: Like the whole thing is a little bit awkward.

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Speaker 6: He's got some pride.

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Speaker 2: He's showing some pride here like hey, man, like we

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: You got to say like, hey, we want you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you don't want to be here, we're

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Speaker 6: And you're and you're making us wait.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate that it that a player, that a

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Speaker 3: But everyone's too desperate apparently too.

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Speaker 1: The longer it goes on, the more believable it is

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm going back and forth with.

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Speaker 2: I believe the Vikings are interested. I do believe that.

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Speaker 2: I believe they're talking about it. And I also believe

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Speaker 2: this is not insight for me. This is just my

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Speaker 6: When it comes to the quarterback, whether or not.

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Speaker 6: We're talking about it.

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Speaker 2: This is the person with the power in the building

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Speaker 6: It's Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 2: And that is making it very clear through that headline

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Speaker 3: And I get that, but they got to make it,

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Speaker 3: say decision too. You know, well, why do they need

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's smart to assess and analyze and

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Speaker 3: What happened?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 6: Sure, the ripple effect.

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Speaker 2: Of such a decision, you know, you could if everything

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Speaker 2: what happens to JJ? Like all of these different themes.

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Speaker 1: Like you could settle that in a day though, And

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Speaker 1: I get that they had other interests. They did try

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Speaker 2: Well you're talking about money too. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: know that's that's a factor too. That's a back and

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Speaker 2: you're if you're thinking about, Okay, how much do you want? No,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to do that. Okay, go back, go

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Speaker 2: back and forth, go back and forth, go back and forth.

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Speaker 6: Maybe he doesn't have cell service again this time, you know,

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Speaker 3: They got plenty of self service cell service.

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Speaker 1: I uh, I do think it's a it's a It

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Speaker 1: It's something I don't think I would have done again,

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Speaker 1: I would say the same to the Vikings in the rod.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but again we're looking at it from the outside in.

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Speaker 2: There could be things that they need to know more about.

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Speaker 1: It also, you know, means that other quarterbacks are going

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Speaker 1: That's one thing they are possibly losing in this process

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams rest in Peace, not the one with the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: I think that going back to twenty twenty three, thirty

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Speaker 2: and Rewigh, some of these players who have been outstanding

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Speaker 1: Jake Lennon never ran famously, which means he probably would

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Speaker 2: I'm also kind of the throw out the forty in

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Speaker 1: He also had the injuries and everything, but yes, anyone

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Speaker 3: You put like thirty thirty bucks on the gift, you know,

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Speaker 6: But love it.

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Speaker 3: Yes they're up to number two.

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Speaker 1: This is just a deeper voice, one item that only

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Speaker 1: I'm interested in that. I just thought I read this

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Speaker 1: and I thought it would be interesting for the NFL

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Speaker 1: Daily audience to hear. The story on the Athletic from

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Speaker 1: Andrew Marshawn was about how the ESPN changed their lead

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Speaker 1: director on Monday Night Football. They took the number two

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Speaker 1: guy from Fox. That that alone I find interesting, but

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have come in it. But they had a

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Speaker 1: quote from ESPN Brooke Magnus, so they're a big executive there,

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Speaker 1: and he said, quote, I feel like we are not

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Speaker 1: in the same conversation with Fox and CBS relative to

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Speaker 1: our overall game presentation, which is wow. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's true. I think the

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Speaker 1: ESPN does a great job. They obviously love their announcers,

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Speaker 1: but they're saying the overall presentation. Yeah, they directing the producing.

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Speaker 1: They're not even in the same conversation with Fox and CBS.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting part of that to me, is like,

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Speaker 1: NBC is clearly the best one and you didn't even

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Speaker 1: mention them. So are you just not trying to give

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Speaker 1: them credit? Is it just a slip up, or is

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Speaker 1: your judgment so bad that you you know, that's just

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Speaker 1: weird quote.

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Speaker 2: I'd have to hear the inflection of the quote, because

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Speaker 2: if you read it a certain a different way, it

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Speaker 2: would almost sound like they're putting themselves above on CBS.

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Speaker 2: If you read it a certain way.

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Speaker 1: The context of the article would make it clear that

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Speaker 1: this was a decision he made because he just thought

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Speaker 1: they weren't as good and they wanted a guy.

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Speaker 3: They're they're gonna have a Super Bowl in a couple

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Speaker 3: of years.

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Speaker 2: H My issue, I mean, this is a very selfish

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Speaker 2: issue as a person who's like covering, you know, covering

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Speaker 2: a beat and needs to see like replay like all

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Speaker 2: the time because watching things live goes so fast you wish.

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Speaker 6: You had a replay.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta, by the way, that Mercedes Benz Stadium has little

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Speaker 2: replay screens in the press box. It's fantastic, really really solid.

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Speaker 2: Fox and CBS drive me freaking crazy because they do

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Speaker 2: not show replays fast enough, nor sometimes do they even

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Speaker 2: show them.

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Speaker 1: And now you talking about the lead cruise. Are you

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Speaker 1: talking about like Teams three, not the leader.

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Speaker 2: No, but I'm just saying that should be standard. That

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Speaker 2: should be standard. Give the people the information.

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Speaker 1: There's only so many resources. So I've thought about that too.

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Speaker 1: You do get a different broadcast with teams four or five, six,

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Speaker 1: you know three, you have way more replays on the

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Speaker 1: lead cruise and.

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Speaker 2: Right which all the crews should have the same number

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Speaker 2: of replays.

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Speaker 3: Fair, fair, democratize a lot of cameras. Anyways, that made

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Speaker 3: me think ranking wise presentation. Wow, I'm going NBC one.

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Speaker 3: That's easy.

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Speaker 6: Of course you ranked them?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Well, no, I'm doing this at the

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Speaker 3: top of my head.

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Speaker 1: I would have maybe gone to ESPN two, just because

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Speaker 1: maybe it's Troy and Joe. But the overall presentation, I

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Speaker 1: want to get a lot of comments from my friends

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Speaker 1: in the industry on this one. I might have gotten Fox, ESPN,

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Speaker 1: then CBS last, because I don't know why. I just

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm not really smart enough to make this call.

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Speaker 1: Let's finish the news quickly and go take a break.

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Speaker 1: Just some little nuggets before we do that. Ronald Darby,

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Speaker 1: who's bounced around a little bit signed with the Texans.

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Speaker 1: Juan Thornhill, the former Chiefs safety to the Steelers. The

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Speaker 1: Saints signed former ram Jonah Williams Our buddy bo Wolf.

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Speaker 1: He's always had a big man crush on Christian Ellis

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Speaker 1: doing the rare thing where he's taking a restricted free

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Speaker 1: agent visit. You don't see those too often, A special

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Speaker 1: teamer mostly with the Patriots visiting the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Wolf Pop and then.

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Speaker 1: International Player Program star Yakub Johnson still going strong at

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Speaker 1: a position that barely exists in the league many years

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Speaker 1: into his career. Congratulations to him. He is back with

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. All right, let's take a break. And

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Speaker 1: on the way, we were listening to Brandon Graham with

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Speaker 1: us the Super Bowl. You've already celebrated one Super Bowl title.

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Speaker 1: What do you learn from that? Now you're going to

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Speaker 1: put into this celebration.

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Speaker 7: Now, Well, you know what last time it was, I

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Speaker 7: had stood out here just so I can feel it,

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Speaker 7: because you know, when you go through adversity, you don't

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Speaker 7: want to run. And I'm so happy that I stuck

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Speaker 7: through it because now, I mean, now we got the

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Speaker 7: green confetti coming down, and it just feels so much

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Speaker 7: sweeter because we knew what happened last time and we

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Speaker 7: wanted to make sure that that didn't happen again.

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, it's the middle of March. We're

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Speaker 1: turning our attention towards the NFL Draft. Started to watch

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Speaker 1: some tape as it were, got forties in free Agents

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Speaker 1: coming up next.

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Speaker 6: I like that show, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: One of the main things I like about that show

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Speaker 2: is how DJ puts you in your place sometimes and

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Speaker 2: his gino Darnold take okay outstanding in my opinion, and

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Speaker 2: I love the video of it because you could see

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Speaker 2: all over your face like he is making a great point.

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Speaker 1: Please, it's more incredulity to how you say that. This

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Speaker 1: is a great segment coming up. And like I mentioned, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're in March, We're going to turn our attention towards

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Speaker 1: the draft soon. But I did want to kind of

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Speaker 1: look back everything that's happened in free agents, see, and

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Speaker 1: you came up with this segment is a perfect way

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Speaker 1: to do that. And it's going to be looking back,

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Speaker 1: but it's also going to be looking forward. What's happened

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Speaker 1: over these last ten days or so that's going to

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Speaker 1: matter in December December, like I missed December on in

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Speaker 1: some ways it gives me like the shakes to think about,

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Speaker 1: like eating.

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Speaker 6: In the middle of it shows what you've done between

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Speaker 6: now and then right like.

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Speaker 3: That, just because it's so busy and everything. But also

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Speaker 3: I missed the holiday season, so these are things are

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Speaker 3: going to matter in December. Why don't you start to.

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Speaker 6: Further contextualize too.

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Speaker 2: Teams make free agency moves, Teams add players to their

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Speaker 2: roster for December, Like this is what free agency really

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Speaker 2: does set up in some ways, certainly prior to the

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Speaker 2: trade deadline as well, whereas the draft more sets of

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Speaker 2: a long term vision, a long term foundation. But December,

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Speaker 2: when football becomes real and when teams are starting to

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Speaker 2: wind up to make that playoff push, these are the

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Speaker 2: moves that we think will matter. Whether it's free agency,

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Speaker 2: whether it's coaching, these are the things that we think

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Speaker 2: will matter in December.

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Speaker 3: I especially.

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Speaker 1: I think that's true and a great point because freeency

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Speaker 1: is a lot about not just depth, but it is

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Speaker 1: about depth, but it's about those mid tier starters. It's

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Speaker 1: not about your superstars. You need to draft those or

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Speaker 1: in the case of the Commanders, you can trade for them.

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Speaker 1: But that's the exception a Laramie Tunzel type of trade.

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Speaker 1: Most of these moves have been getting filling spots with solid,

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Speaker 1: hopefully above average starters.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you get us going?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my first one is that I like and I

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Speaker 2: think it matters in December that the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 2: have not overreached in free agency. In March, Brian Goodikins

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Speaker 2: noted early in the off season that the Packers had

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Speaker 2: like the cleanest slash best cap they've had in some time.

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Speaker 2: It sort of made people think that maybe they'd be

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Speaker 2: hyper aggressive in free agency, but they actually made meat

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Speaker 2: and potatoes moves on players they really liked.

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Speaker 3: I liked that they.

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Speaker 2: Didn't overreach or overspend on a bad free agent class.

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Speaker 2: They're giving some of their young guys a little bit

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Speaker 2: of air and a little room to keep growing. And

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Speaker 2: we've seen when Matt Lafleur takes the strategy as a

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Speaker 2: coach to let some younger players develop and grow up

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Speaker 2: a little bit, then it really really works. And I

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Speaker 2: think they set themselves up to actually hit those premium

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Speaker 2: positions in the draft. They signed Aaron Banks, who the

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Speaker 2: guard who's a system fit out of the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a little bit underrated personally, especially when

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Speaker 2: he's in the right scheme. And then corner Nate Hobbes,

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Speaker 2: who as my colleague get the Athletic Night Schneidman wrote,

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Speaker 2: has a really powerful relationship with Rich Bisaccia. So they

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Speaker 2: did the meat and potatoes thing. They still will have needs.

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Speaker 2: They are going to move on from Jay R Alexander.

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Speaker 2: That will free up about six million dollars more of

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Speaker 2: cap space. They'll have close to forty million dollars in

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Speaker 2: cap space after that release. And I think they have

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Speaker 2: three picks in the top one hundred. I think they're

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Speaker 2: going to go receiver, cornerback, and possibly edge. And I

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Speaker 2: think that they like working this way. I think they're

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Speaker 2: comfortable with their developmental process, with their coaching staff who

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Speaker 2: has continuity.

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Speaker 1: And the Aaron Banks signing, which was one of the

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Speaker 1: most surprising to me. Just seeing four years, seventy seven

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Speaker 1: million for Aaron Banks, I was surprised, but then you

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Speaker 1: peek under the hood, it's twenty seven fully guaranteed. It's

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Speaker 1: a signing bonus. The Packers are old school. They do

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Speaker 1: contracts the old way, where they have you sign a

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Speaker 1: big signing bonus, and that's it, and that's it for

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Speaker 1: is just in case it's a bust, they would cut

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Speaker 1: them and actually save a lot of money next year.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't think they will. They have a ten

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Speaker 1: million or nine one point five million dollars roster bonus

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Speaker 1: that they'll have to make a decision early in the

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Speaker 1: off season next off season, and if he's just decent,

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Speaker 1: they'll have him on for another year. But then it's

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Speaker 1: a year to year move. So once I saw that,

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Speaker 1: it's a little less risky. They don't need them to

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Speaker 1: be a star, they just need them to be solid.

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Speaker 2: The reason why I think all of this matters specifically

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Speaker 2: for December is through OTAs and through the summer, especially

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Speaker 2: in a post JayR world and a post draft class world,

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Speaker 2: you're going to see where everybody fits together on this roster,

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Speaker 2: and you're going to see really what the plan is.

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Speaker 2: They're taking this very ultra patient approach where they are

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Speaker 2: stockpiling this money to where, hey, let's say somebody becomes

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Speaker 2: available at the trade deadline who could really help you,

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Speaker 2: and you're better because you've developed these young players together

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Speaker 2: and you need to go out and get that person,

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Speaker 2: but also promise them a certain contract. You know, teams

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Speaker 2: often shed players because they're in need of a contract

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Speaker 2: coming up, and you can promise that player said money

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Speaker 2: and then you roll through November December. Like That's why

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Speaker 2: I think this patients really matter for December for the Packers,

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Speaker 2: And it was very targeted.

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Speaker 1: Two guys, two positions they really wanted to shore up.

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Speaker 1: I really like the Nate Hobbs signing. But yes, if

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Speaker 1: you just do the basic thing which I did as

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Speaker 1: part of its exercise, which go to NFL dot com

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Speaker 1: and look at the notable additions and notable departures, they

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Speaker 1: don't have many additions. It's just like a couple whereas

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams. You know, they're filling in a

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Speaker 1: lot of depth. And doesn't mean the Packers won't sign

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Speaker 1: guys eventually that are just true depth guys. But they

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Speaker 1: really had two targeted guys. They went after him. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with my first thing that's gonna matter in December.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the chief signing of Jalen Moore.

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Speaker 2: Oo.

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Speaker 1: Just we just haven't talked about Jalen Moore a lot.

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Speaker 1: And if you're not familiar, Jalen Moore is an American

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle who comes from this offensive line factory in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco apparently, and so I think it pairs up

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Speaker 1: nicely with Banks, and he is gonna be the favorite

660
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: to win the nfafc's left tackle period. And I don't

661
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: know how this is going to go. I actually, if

662
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: I have all the time in the offseason that I want,

663
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: I would love to go back and watch some of

664
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: his starts. I haven't done that, so I'm not gonna

665
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: pretend solid pass block ratings almost every start till the

666
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: last one actually against the Rams. I think he struggled

667
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. But obviously the Chiefs really

668
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: liked his tape. They gave him more guaranteed money, let's say,

669
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: than Aaron Banks got. He got over twenty million dollars

670
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: guaranteed for a guy that's barely started in the NFL,

671
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: played five hundred snaps the last two years combined, and

672
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: that's all the experience that is. But they picked a

673
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: guy who they decided was their number two choice behind

674
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, to be Patrick Mahomes's left tackle. That is

675
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: a big time bet. They're also moving very specifically their

676
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: second round pick from a year ago Sue Mattea two

677
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: left guards, so that is a brand new left side

678
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: of the line. And when I looked at all these moves,

679
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: like this actually feels like the one that might be

680
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: the one that tips the scales for a team, whether

681
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: they're going to contend for a title, whether they're going

682
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: to repeat as fifteen and two type of team, or

683
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: whether they struggled the Jalen Moore signing.

684
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how it's going to go, but I

685
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: think it's going to matter.

686
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 6: It will absolutely matter.

687
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: I think that's a great pick, Greg because it could

688
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: be either or in this case, we'll know by December

689
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: whether it will actually help lift them into maybe not

690
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: winning by such narrow margins that are statistically improbable year

691
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: over year. What I also think is that you really

692
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: have to show your work early if you're the Chiefs

693
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: with this new left side, because teams will smell blood

694
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: in the water at this point. They saw how hassled

695
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes was, how much shuffling they had to do

696
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: along that offensive line, playing one of their best linemen

697
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: out of position where he struggled. And I think that

698
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: this is absolutely going to matter, because the Chiefs always

699
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: matter that time of year. They're always a threat that

700
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: time of year, and if this works, it could really

701
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: really work. I also think that they're going to continue

702
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: to restock in the draft. There might be some troubleshooting

703
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: going on with some of their talent identification processes because

704
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: their last couple guys have just not worked out the

705
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: left tackle spot especially, and so I think that that's

706
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: going to be something to look at as well.

707
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 6: Internally.

708
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: Well, they better get this right.

709
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

710
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: If I had wanted to be a little more negative,

711
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: I could have said it mattered the core players that

712
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: they lost. They're among the teams I think that lost

713
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: the most amount of important players. Tony Justin, Reid, Trevelle, Warton,

714
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Derek Noddy just signed with the Jets. Solid player Amena

715
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: who is still a free agent. Wouldn't be surprised if

716
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: they bring him back. But I wanted to be a

717
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: little more positive. I'm going to trust their system and

718
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: their evaluation. Overall, They've done pretty well in the OFFENSEI flint,

719
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: all right, give me another one.

720
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 6: I think it will matter.

721
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: In December that the Lions re signed Levi Onouzurigua to

722
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: it one year, five and a half million dollar deal.

723
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: The reason I think it will matter specifically in December

724
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: is because we don't know how long Aiden Hutchinson's return

725
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: not just to play, but returned to foremance, so his

726
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: actual level of play, We don't know how long it

727
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: will take. If it does take into the season, by

728
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: around that time, it's going to really be a factor

729
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: that a dynamic and ascending young defensive lineman who has

730
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: not really been able to put it fully together since

731
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: he was drafted, but really showed some positive flashes last

732
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: season and was moved all over in their d line

733
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: chaos because of all the injuries that they had, that

734
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: he and Aiden Hutchinson have this rapport and this tandem

735
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: as someone on the inside who can disrupt and call

736
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: attention and somebody who can free up Aiden Hutchinson's to

737
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: cook the way we know he can and vice versa.

738
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: And I also think that it's interesting because he this

739
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: is a potential signing. This is like a prove it

740
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: deal that the Lions have done with on Woozerique. The

741
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: one and a half sacks last season are a false

742
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: flag in my opinion, because he had a nine point

743
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: seven percent pressure rate, which was higher than both Joshan

744
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: Warden and Jevon Kinlaw, both of whom got paid much

745
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: more than he did. So this is sort of a

746
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: prove it deal where they clearly want to see what

747
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: this pairing is going to look like.

748
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 6: By December, we'll know, right, And.

749
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: They've seen the process that when Uzourique has gone through

750
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: to get healthy, they've had him in the building, the

751
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: improvement that he's made. I think he's one of Dan

752
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: Campbell's guy. That's a good shout out. And yet they

753
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: would have been a logical team to me for an

754
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: Ojulari or I agree.

755
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 6: I think they're gonna they set themselves up to draft right.

756
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but they really don't have any

757
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: edge players, like true edge, like speed around the edge

758
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: other than Hutchinson.

759
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: I mean they have dat Marcus Davenport.

760
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: I guess that's similar where you're you're just hoping he

761
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: can stay healthy and that's a high ceiling. But it's

762
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: a very thin position and there were a lot of

763
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: guys out there, and I don't really see anyone out

764
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: there like the first fifteen names I wrote down. I'm

765
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: looking at my initial positionless for edges. They're all gone

766
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: from free agency, which is crazy.

767
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: That they do not last if the brad Holmes lines

768
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: look at the defensive line anyway, like the brad Holmes

769
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: rams looked at the defensive line. It's all a big

770
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: mathematical equation, right, which is why I think they've cleared

771
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: the runway by making this signing for just one year

772
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: and low stake signing that.

773
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 6: Could be very very high upside.

774
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 2: I think that they are looking at this mathematically and like, okay,

775
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: we have cleared the path now to plug in a

776
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: like twitchy traits guy, a speed rush guy that we

777
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: can identify in the draft. We don't have to worry about,

778
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: you know, a plus B in Levi and Aiden Hutchinson

779
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: because they understand at their apex how those traits would

780
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: complement each other into that equation. They're only looking for

781
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 2: C now.

782
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: And they're huge.

783
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they have DJ Reader coming back, they have

784
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: Alee McNeil, They signed Roy Lopez who's an interior guy.

785
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: They have a lot of bulk, and I can almost

786
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: hear the Lions fancying what about Josh Pascal. He was

787
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 1: a second round pick, hasn't really done much, but I'm thinking,

788
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: like a bend the edge edge guy. They definitely need that,

789
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: but that's a good shadow. They love to have tons

790
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: of different types of guys. They have a lot of

791
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: dudes up front, hoping that it works. I'm gonna go

792
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: with a guy at a position for the Houston Texans

793
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: where they don't have a lot of dudes, and that's

794
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver Christian Kirk. Not only did they free up

795
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: some cap space by when they brought him in, they

796
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: actually used him as a bank immediately, and I think.

797
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: That was part of the strategy.

798
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: They immediately converted his entire salary to a signing bonus.

799
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: They didn't decided I'm not going to extend you, we're

800
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: not betting on you long term, but yeah, like we're

801
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: going to take your thirteen million dollar base salary and

802
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: like turn that into cap space right away.

803
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 3: So that's a nice little bonus.

804
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 6: I love when players arrive.

805
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 2: I love when this happens, when players arrive on the roster,

806
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: and like the player wins because he gets a lot

807
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: of money immediately, but like it's almost like a laundering

808
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: operation on the backside of the contract.

809
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: It is weird. Surprise the Saints dud don't do more

810
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: of this.

811
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring in a player specifically to open up

812
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: cap space, but he's on a one year deal. He's

813
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: a number two right now for them. Is he best

814
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: used as a true two? Probably not. I think they

815
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: need another receiver there and it wouldn't surprise me if

816
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: they either bring in another veteran or invest in that

817
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: position in the draft. They've been acted a lot of

818
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: mock drafts to Mika Buka from Ohio State, so they

819
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: could add a young player there too. To me, he's

820
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: more of a three, a two slash three. But either way,

821
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: they needed someone that really contributes. And for this exercise,

822
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: I tended to go towards the better teams because the

823
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: better teams they matter in December, and they're going to

824
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: need Christian Kirk to matter. And I'm curious how you think,

825
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: and I'm putting you on the spot again, how he

826
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: fits into.

827
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: Nick Kyley type of offense. Christian Kirk.

828
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Well, I'm curious with Nick Cayley. I'm curious how much

829
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Patriots he's going to be. How much get the ball

830
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: out super fast and you know, worry maybe less about

831
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: the status of the players up front and more about

832
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: you know, technical execution and also getting the ball out

833
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: very fast to help alleviate some of that, and I

834
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: think that get open fast, get open quickly, receivers will

835
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: thrive if that's the direction they go in. I'm curious

836
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: about how much RAMS influence is going to be with

837
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: Nick Kyley with this offense. You know, I don't necessarily

838
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: see that he's gonna have like the blocking help that

839
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: maybe the Rams have prioritized in their receivers for the

840
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: last you know, especially some of the guys coming back

841
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: from injuries, the physicality, the size.

842
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: And Christian Krisch is not that guy I means all,

843
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 3: but also.

844
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 2: The other guys coming back, you know, coming back from

845
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: injuries and all of that, like and you know a

846
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: little bit more diminutive size difference there.

847
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 6: I just don't know.

848
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: That sort of tells me he's going to gravitate a

849
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: little bit more toward Patriots, which means to me Christian

850
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: kirk will be a nice fit because get open.

851
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: Fast and a slot guy who can stretch the field,

852
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: which I think is a nice compliment with Nico Collins

853
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: where they're both versatile. I just think he's really important

854
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: of all the guys that changed teams in the last month.

855
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: To me, he was a little under the radar is

856
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: just going to be a really important figure for them,

857
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: and both sides, kind of like the stuff on Diggs

858
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: deal a year ago, really should be motivated to bring

859
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: the best out of each other.

860
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: The difference with Kirk is he's still young.

861
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: He's twenty eight year old player, so I know he's

862
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: had some injuries, but he should be fully recovered.

863
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: That's going to be a good one. Let's let's go

864
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: to your third.

865
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: My third is the Chargers. Adding Naji Harris will matter

866
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: in decise. Oh I love this signing for the Chargers.

867
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: He is mentally and physically tough. With some blocking, he

868
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: can really wear on a defense. He is physical, he

869
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: is powerful. He does not miss time due to injuries.

870
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: He's not missed one game to injury in his career

871
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: to date. Despite his physical running styles, four consecutive one

872
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: thousand plus rushing yards seasons. And we know Jim Harbaugh

873
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: wants to run the ball. And last year we were like, Okay,

874
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: we get it. It's cute, it's not really working. We

875
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: see the vision, the execution production is not quite there.

876
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: And a running back cannot like magically by himself. Heal

877
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: an offense and offensive line. But I think this is

878
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: where you see the projection of focus going and like, Okay,

879
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: let's really make this what we believe that it should

880
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: have been that it can be. And I think Jim

881
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: Harborough will especially want to run the ball in December.

882
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: In January, if the Chargers get into the postseason again,

883
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: and they're also going to be on the road and

884
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: outside twice in tough environments, possibly very cold depending on

885
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: the timing in their own division, So I think that

886
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 2: this is going to matter in December.

887
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 6: Najia Harris being on the roster, I.

888
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: Agree he will be the centerpiece of a few late

889
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: season Thursday night or Monday night games.

890
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 3: They don't always give the Chargers Sunday Night, but maybe

891
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: maybe if it's the Chiefs, I can see that.

892
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: And you add Makai Beckton, you might be moving Zion

893
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: Johnson to the center. I think they'll do a little

894
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: more work there, but they're trying to improve the running

895
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: game in multiple ways. I'm going to go with a

896
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: coaching higher. Oh, Justin Fry offensive line coach, this is

897
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: gonna matter. He was obviously the offensive line coach for

898
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: the national champion Ohio State buck Eyes, and they had

899
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: a ton of injuries and people thought he coached them up.

900
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: Well, he coached.

901
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell at Ohio State, who is now the entrench

902
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: left tackle of the Arizona Cardinals.

903
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: So there's a relationship there.

904
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: He was with Chip, you know, he's been with some

905
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: NFL types obviously at Ohio State. And to me, the

906
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: fact that they lost Clayton Adams and so this is

907
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: a combination. I think both these things will matter.

908
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: I don't know how.

909
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm just dorking out here that this working is really

910
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: important for the Cardinals because here's what the Cardinals haven't

911
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: done this offseason. Add anyone to their offense. They and

912
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: they didn't need to on some level because they had

913
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: incredible continuity. Here's also what they haven't done, like lose

914
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: anyone that really mattered to them on the offense. It's

915
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: the same group back, but you did lose a guy

916
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: that very highly thought of in Clayton Adams, who was

917
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: kind of the run game coordinator and the offensive line coach.

918
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: And now you bring in a different guy, and their

919
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: running game is going to be so central to what

920
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: they do. Nick Shouok is always talking about it, and

921
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: so it's another one where I don't know how it's

922
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: going to go. But to me, it really really matters,

923
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: and it obviously matters for the Cowboys as well, because

924
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: you're you're trusting that vision Clayton Adams going over there

925
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: while you downgrade at running back with Javonte Williams and

926
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders probably had someone in the draft like no

927
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver too, so it's two spots offensive line coach carousel.

928
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: It matters.

929
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: The ripple effect, yes, huge, Yeah, I agree. He has

930
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: a great reputation too. Josh Simmons, I believe, was just

931
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: out there last month at the Combine talking about like

932
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: what a huge impact that Justin Frye has had on

933
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 2: his career, saying he's extremely technically gifted, extremely technically aware

934
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: and really gives them their mechanics.

935
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 3: So getting deep here, it's in March, we're talking offensive.

936
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: Line, Justin fry and I did a quick Google. I

937
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: will say I did a quick Google Seart looks you

938
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: know he that came up. So I'm like going on

939
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: the fly here with the Justin fry take.

940
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't need to have a major take.

941
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: I just it's just just something to watch. Just their

942
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: running game does matter.

943
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: I was I think I thought about it because I

944
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: just looked how man they have the most continuity, they

945
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: have the least amount of change except for that one position,

946
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: and the running game is so important to what they do.

947
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: With Kyler, it's a big year. Also, I like that

948
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: the Bears and Ben Johnson interviewed him. I know they

949
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: didn't end up hiring him, but I just think like

950
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: he you know, he's clearly got a good reputation among

951
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: these forward thinking coaches.

952
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: All right, wrap it up, let's get out of here.

953
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 6: Yes, Okay, So I.

954
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: This is going to be the first time I've really

955
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: talked about the Los Angeles Rams this off.

956
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 3: Okay.

957
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: I know that there's a small percentage of our listeners

958
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: that get very annoyed when I do talk about the

959
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams. But I think they're going to matter

960
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: in December, yes, in January. And I think all of

961
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: the moves they've made in free agency so far, starting

962
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: with getting Matthew Stafford back for at least another year,

963
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: set off their A plus plan of really, actually, they're

964
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: going to make a run this year. Like I could

965
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: say that definitively they are going to try to go

966
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: for a Super Bowl this season and of all their

967
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: signings and the flashy ones and the important ones and

968
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: the ones that make a lot of sense, poon Afford

969
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: signing with the Rams is what is going to matter

970
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: the most. In December last year, the Rams were among

971
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: the worst teams in the NFL in defending the run

972
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: throughout the year, starting with the season opening loss to

973
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: Detroit and Ben Johnson, who ran it down their throat

974
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: in overtime, didn't even give Matthew Stafford a chance to

975
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: touch the ball after the Eagles put up three hundred

976
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: single game rushing yards on the Rams in one game

977
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: at the end of November. In December, the Rams allowed

978
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 2: nearly an average an average of nearly one hundred rushing

979
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: yards per game. In the playoffs, they allowed one hundred

980
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: and six and two hundred and eighty five rushing yards.

981
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 6: OOH, respectively.

982
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: Poon Afford is one of the NFL's best run defenders

983
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: last season, and a defense that does like to schematically

984
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: play their fronts similarly to how the Rams like to

985
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 2: play their funds keep the safeties back deep. The second

986
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: the Rams were able to keep Matthew Stafford, poona Ford

987
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: became one of their priorities to get in the building

988
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: to sign Poona Ford and DeVante Adams were their priority

989
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: free agent targets, and he was signed to get in

990
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: the way and stay in the way and carry this young,

991
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: ascending defensive line into their pass rush plan on the

992
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: early downs and into December and January.

993
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: Well, I love the glow up for Poona Ford after

994
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: last year making I think just a million or two

995
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: from the Chargers to get a nice raise. Always been

996
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: kind of a hipster favorite among the film watching community,

997
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: and now he's a RAMS favorite.

998
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: I love that nose tackles. They're kind of back. I

999
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: don't know why I said that, so weird.

1000
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: But they're so back, like two gapping guy in these

1001
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: systems where you don't want to have a lot of

1002
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: guys that have Yeah, they're they're making it happen.

1003
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: And then I didn't have a they're making it gappen.

1004
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: All right?

1005
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I was like looking for my fourth one.

1006
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: It was a stretch. It was a stretch. I didn't

1007
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: think it was that interesting some of the ones I

1008
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: was coming up, like Jets defense lost some people. It

1009
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: was like the Colts offensive line lost people. Then I

1010
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: thought like, let's be real, what actually mattered in terms

1011
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: of all these transactions more than any other. You're talking

1012
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: the Rams, I'm talking Gino. I'll be quick about it,

1013
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: but just another the Raiders are a relevant team again.

1014
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: They will be a relevant team in December. I'll at

1015
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: least say that that they're going to be relevant and watchable.

1016
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: The Raiders in their long history have never been more

1017
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: boring than they were in twenty twenty four.

1018
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: They were forgettable.

1019
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: That's the last thing you want out of the Raiders,

1020
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: if nothing else, Pete Carroll and having a legitimate starting

1021
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to make them watchable, make them earning

1022
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: those national window games that they always get, regardless if

1023
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: they're good or not.

1024
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: And I think they're at least going to be in

1025
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: the mix.

1026
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: So that is a franchise changing move to bring in

1027
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: a quarterback to go with your new head coach.

1028
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: So of course that's the way I agree.

1029
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 2: I have been kind of given the Raiders some praise

1030
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: since they hired John Spytech, who went about making Steven

1031
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: very very happy.

1032
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 6: Your personal trainer, trainer who apparently you have went.

1033
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: Got in an extra day on Monday, had some free time.

1034
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: Nice shred, Greg Shred. I mean, I'm grinding film and

1035
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: lifting weight.

1036
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: It's been a slow recovery. It's been a rough month,

1037
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: not a lot of shredding going on. I just love it.

1038
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 2: You could see the presence when John Spy second Pete

1039
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: Carroll walked into that little section of set of film

1040
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: and TV sets in Indianapolis in the silver and black.

1041
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: There was this presence there, both of them together. They

1042
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: had this like gravitas that's like.

1043
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, we know ball, they matter.

1044
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: That'll be fun. I think the Gino I think. And

1045
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 2: I had to convince you on this, by the way.

1046
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: I was texting you about this when I was like,

1047
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: I love this for Gino. I love this for Gino.

1048
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: I love that he's going to get paid. I love

1049
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: that he's going to a team that I think is

1050
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: closer than a lot of other people think to actually competing,

1051
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: because they will.

1052
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 6: It's almost like Pete Carroll will like, will it to

1053
00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 6: be so?

1054
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: I hope so.

1055
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: On paper, the depth chart still has some issues on

1056
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, but football is not played

1057
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: that way. Year after year we think one thing, and

1058
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you when I thought matter, like the Raiders

1059
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: matter again. They got a quarterback, they got a coach.

1060
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here, will be back. If you

1061
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: have this feed, you're going to get forties in free agents.

1062
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: Next on your feed, we'll be talking with Daniel Jeremiah

1063
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: about mock draft. We got an NFL Daily coming up

1064
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: later this week. Thank you, Jordan, You're so welcome. You

1065
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: know what will matter in December? What our friendship?

1066
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that is back. You know who else is back?

1067
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: Nose tackles. When those tackles are back, football is back.