WEBVTT - #447 My Dad Was a Con Man & Going to Couples Therapy w/ Gary Vider

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<v Speaker 1>The Nikki Gliser podcastsers.

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<v Speaker 2>Here I am, I mean Key Laser. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Nikkei Glazer Podcast. I am here today in my studio apartment,

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<v Speaker 2>my studio, in my apartment, my studio, in my three

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom apartment, which one of the bedrooms is a studio,

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<v Speaker 2>so my two but it doesn't matter. I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>getting a house soon. I'm just kind of bursting at

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<v Speaker 2>the seams with stuff that's beside the point. Actually it's not,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is all you're getting today, just for now

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<v Speaker 2>at least. Brian Frangie is no longer with us, not permanently,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's just I didn't mean to scare you guys

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<v Speaker 2>like that. He is recovering from gallbladder surgery, so he

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<v Speaker 2>had that on Monday. I'm recording this on a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>I've checked in with him. He's doing well, he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He said it was not as bad as the other

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<v Speaker 2>surgeries he's had in his life. What did he say?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'd be fine with me reading you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I had laparoscopic ball surgery in my twenties and it

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<v Speaker 2>was much worse. And he said the pain of the

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<v Speaker 2>tooth extractions were worse. He said sleeping is okay. Not

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<v Speaker 2>bad teeth, He's his teeth pretty much are the same.

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<v Speaker 2>He feels much better overall. He said, it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>he was being poisoned, and his deterioration happened so gradually

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<v Speaker 2>that it was difficult to see how bad it was.

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<v Speaker 2>After the surgery, I feel much better overall. That's so

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<v Speaker 2>great when you remove something from your life, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be a husband, or a gallbladder or a I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what else. I'm trying to think of something that

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<v Speaker 2>I've removed from my life, and then suddenly it was

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<v Speaker 2>just so much more comfortable. Uh, jeanes that don't fit,

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<v Speaker 2>just getting clothes that fit, and then you're like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I don't realize how fucking in pain I

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<v Speaker 2>was all the time. I think, I really, I've always

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<v Speaker 2>said it on this podcast. I really resonate. I hate

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<v Speaker 2>when people say they resonate with something. I think something

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<v Speaker 2>is supposed to resonate with you, but people always say

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<v Speaker 2>that resonates with me, and I that I read with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like when people say I resonate. Can you resonate?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can. I googled it and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I found out that those people were right, even though

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<v Speaker 2>they sound wrong to me, but I'm still not I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to say it anyway. I do resonate with

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<v Speaker 2>uh people having chronic pain because I've had like my

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<v Speaker 2>rants before, or I don't resonate with them. I have

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<v Speaker 2>so much empathy because I don't know what it's like

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<v Speaker 2>to have like long term chronic pain. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>whenever someone has a headache, I like can't handle it.

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<v Speaker 2>If someone has a headache in my presence and you

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<v Speaker 2>work for me, I want you to stay home and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll try to do your job or something, or if

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<v Speaker 2>like I just don't want to be around someone with

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<v Speaker 2>a headache because I can't stand thinking how badly they're

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<v Speaker 2>in pain. Because I'm just such a good person, can't

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<v Speaker 2>you tell No? It's just like that's that's my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even the nice thing because then they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't take on my pain. I'm not asking you to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, but I just can't help it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like people being uncomfortable. It's one of my I think

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<v Speaker 2>number one things in life is trying to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>people are comfortable. Although I'm not good at offering people

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<v Speaker 2>drinks when they get to my apartment or house, because

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have no problem asking when I'm at a

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<v Speaker 2>guest's house if I can have some water or a drink.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I was at my boyfriend's brothers and his

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<v Speaker 2>sister in law's house this weekend for Father's Day, and

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<v Speaker 2>he asked me if I wanted to drink. And I

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<v Speaker 2>had seen a like a sliver. I just like made

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<v Speaker 2>eye contact with a zvia that was in their refrigerator

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<v Speaker 2>when he opened it to get something like twenty minutes earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I think they have ZVA, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw a flash of it. But I drink

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<v Speaker 2>so much ZV I'm like, am I just like seeing

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<v Speaker 2>it everywhere? And he was like do you I go

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<v Speaker 2>what do you got? And I was hoping that he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say ZV so I didn't have to be like

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<v Speaker 2>I saw one and I want it, But he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>we got Pellegrino, we got Lacroix. What flavor do you

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<v Speaker 2>want with Topachuka. I mean, they have amazing choices. It's

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<v Speaker 2>no wonder they also have ZVA. And I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have zva? And he's like, yeah, do you

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<v Speaker 2>want that? I'm like, of course, but he said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you mean the routier. I'm like, I don't call it that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is root beer. It's so delicious. Yeah, Happy

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<v Speaker 2>Father's Day. I didn't do an episode yesterday. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>that we didn't have one for you. Brian was off

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<v Speaker 2>this week and I just didn't feel like it. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a micro needling and my face was really red.

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<v Speaker 2>It still is different shades of red. It looks like

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<v Speaker 2>I just got really burnt. It looks like I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like drunk on spring break, you know, early or

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<v Speaker 2>late nineties. I feel like people were still not wearing

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<v Speaker 2>sunblock in the nineties. I think that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most embarrassing things is being burnt as a white person. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I think like that that didn't need to be said,

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, black people can get burnt. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I should know. I'm sorry for my ignorance.

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<v Speaker 2>Please someone educate me. Anyway, I think being a burnt

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<v Speaker 2>white person is a really embarrassing thing. I've been at before.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, if you're an adult and you're getting burnt,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry you are not taking care of yourself. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not thinking. It's like the same as not wearing a seatbelt,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just can't handle. Sunscreen doesn't make you gay, Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like a it's not a lotion that smells

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<v Speaker 2>a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean you're like treating your body like a

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<v Speaker 2>woman would and caressing it, even though you should. You

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<v Speaker 2>should appreciate your bodies just as much as we are

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to appreciate ours, even though we do the opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of that. Actually, anyway, wearing SPF isn't gay, or just

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<v Speaker 2>like beat just not wanting to get skin cancer isn't gay.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I see burnt people, I really am embarrassed

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<v Speaker 2>for them, and I think they should be ashamed. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so not in the business of shaming people. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess today I am who knew when left to

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<v Speaker 2>my own devices, Brian, come back, what am I doing? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>So on the podcast today we are having a guest,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Veder. He is a comedian. You may have seen

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<v Speaker 2>him on America's Gun Talent. He is hilarious. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>on The Tonight Show, I Think Like a Bunch and

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<v Speaker 2>Colbert and all the things. He's just a fucking great

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<v Speaker 2>stand up. But he also has a new podcast out

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<v Speaker 2>where he you might have seen clips for it because

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<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend had heard of it and didn't know his

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<v Speaker 2>name out of the gate, but it was the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's has a podcast now called Number One Dad. It's

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<v Speaker 2>on iHeart Big Money Players, which is where our podcast

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<v Speaker 2>network is, but it's called Number One Dad, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>about his dad, who is like a con man and

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<v Speaker 2>who got Gary to pose as a reporter for the

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<v Speaker 2>sports Kid's Sports Illustrated so he could get back to

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<v Speaker 2>games in Madison Square Garden and like pretty much everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City and I think surrounding areas, and

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<v Speaker 2>he met dozens, maybe hundreds of athletes and celebrities by

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<v Speaker 2>pulling the scam, and his dad would pose as a photographer.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a podcast and he hasn't talked to his

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<v Speaker 2>dad and since he was fifteen. There's three episodes out

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<v Speaker 2>right now. There might be a new one out by

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<v Speaker 2>the time you hear this. I don't know when the

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<v Speaker 2>new one comes out, but I think he's gonna meet

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<v Speaker 2>his dad in this and it's so crazy because he

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't talked to him since he was fifteen, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's my age. Gary also has a kid, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to him about that because I

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<v Speaker 2>remember him being pregnant. I mean, not him being but

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<v Speaker 2>you get it. And I don't think i've really talked

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<v Speaker 2>to him since because it was pre COVID and that's

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<v Speaker 2>when I would see Gary around, was like in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited to reconnect with him today. Other things,

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<v Speaker 2>I do have a dog. She is officially mine. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't signed the papers yet. I don't know why I'm wavering.

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels like once it's done, it's really done,

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<v Speaker 2>even though there's no taking giving this little girly back.

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<v Speaker 2>She got spade on Monday. That's always a very bonding

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<v Speaker 2>moment for two people, is when one has to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of the other when they're sick and has to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that they don't bite their stitches out. But

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<v Speaker 2>she also I just don't want her to have to

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<v Speaker 2>wear the cone, so I'm just like having to watch

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<v Speaker 2>her all the time so she doesn't get in there

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<v Speaker 2>and try to get her see if her ovaries are

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<v Speaker 2>still there, because they're not. She's six pounds and her

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<v Speaker 2>ovaries we were like, what do they look like? My

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<v Speaker 2>sister and I were thinking they look like lima beans.

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<v Speaker 2>But she can't have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes two of the us because now I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need them because I've got this little baby, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am leaning into the fact that she is my baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck. I love her. I also

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<v Speaker 2>she is a burden. I've thought about naming her that

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<v Speaker 2>just Birdie, which is short for burden, but no one

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<v Speaker 2>would know that except you, guys, because I just told you,

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<v Speaker 2>and that might still be her name because we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>really settled on Gilly yet, so we're open to suggestions

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<v Speaker 2>for a little adorable, big eyed, glassy eyed, watery eyed

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<v Speaker 2>Chihuahua mix. You can look at her on the YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>to see her. She's in my lap right now and

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<v Speaker 2>just totally like zoning out, zoning out. She's so cuddly. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, she is a burden and she is like

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<v Speaker 2>a kid because like it's I mean, she's she's a

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<v Speaker 2>kid who is gonna die young, pretty young, because she's

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<v Speaker 2>only gonna live for about fifteen years tops. I think

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<v Speaker 2>she's two, and I think the May she'll get to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend's dog, who's very very small like her, just

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<v Speaker 2>got to eighteen years, so yeah, she'll be able to vote,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she'll die God damn it, Gilly, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>laughing about your death. It's not funny. How old will

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<v Speaker 2>I be? Fifteen years fifty five? Okay, I'm okay. My

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<v Speaker 2>first thought was like, I'll look hot when I put

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<v Speaker 2>you down. Still, what an idiot. I'll be like, look

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<v Speaker 2>at I'll be sad, my mescara will be running. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>wipe my tears, but I'll make sure to wipe them

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<v Speaker 2>up so my skin doesn't get pulled down anymore than

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<v Speaker 2>it already is. Oh god, you know I am just

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<v Speaker 2>a product of my Instagram algorithm. I gotta get off

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. I gotta stop scrolling. I'm tired of being

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<v Speaker 2>fucked with in my brain about the clothes I should buy,

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<v Speaker 2>about the face massages I should do, about the plastic

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<v Speaker 2>surgery this girl had, and the I mean everything I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting set not everything, because I get really fun memes sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hey, Gary's here, we'll welcome you with Now what's up, Gary?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking about Instagram and how I'm addicted

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Are you addicted to Instagram as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a problem, and especially now because I got

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<v Speaker 3>like things going on, so I'm like constantly on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you're checking, like how the things are doing,

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<v Speaker 2>Your numbers are going up, people are dming you like

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<v Speaker 2>you got to constantly be in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it makes me sick to my stomach how often

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<v Speaker 3>I'm checking it?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you also doing TikTok? Are you doing you?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What what are the what are your apps that you

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<v Speaker 2>float between? Because mine's just up closed Instagram and just

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<v Speaker 2>pick up Instagram again.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like text anymore. I don't like emails because

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<v Speaker 2>it's too much stuff that feels like it's if that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff feels like work where it's Instagram like something fun might.

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<v Speaker 3>Be bruin totally something fun, and you see like the likes.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks cool when it like pops up, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like very special.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll check the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Only because I feel like I'm not giving them some time,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I'd go right back to Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram is still my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you get into the reels, like are you

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<v Speaker 2>using it like a TikTok user would use to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I use it like that, and then I use

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<v Speaker 3>the reels on Instagram. I use them on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 3>then you're just like whoa, yeah, So it's the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean like, are you consuming.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh consuming them?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'm like checking them out and then I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even realize that I've been watching them for

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<v Speaker 3>like thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's where I'm like, I'm sick of I do

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<v Speaker 2>like I gotta check Mike. I don't like watching myself,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't look at my content. I actually have

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<v Speaker 2>someone post for me and I just write the captions now,

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<v Speaker 2>and she sends me clips to get We just I

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<v Speaker 2>just got a girl to like a new company to

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<v Speaker 2>start making clips for me, and they send them and

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<v Speaker 2>they go approve these and I just never watch them

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<v Speaker 2>because I never want to watch myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they go, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Would like, we'd like to start like having you know

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<v Speaker 2>you post more, like we talked about in our meetings

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<v Speaker 2>leading up to this partnership, and I go, actually, can

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<v Speaker 2>I just trust you that they're good and you just

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<v Speaker 2>post them because I don't even want to look at

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<v Speaker 2>a second on myself. And but I will say, the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I'm constantly feeling just disgusted by on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>is just the reels that come up that are targeting

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<v Speaker 2>my insecurities and that are targeting me to buy cardigans

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<v Speaker 2>that they know I want that are five hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty two fucking dollars and they shouldn't be. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>know it's my spending that they know that I will

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they know everything that you want and then they

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<v Speaker 3>just put it right in your face. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean everything is like I mean, I'll have uh my

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<v Speaker 3>wife's not happy about this, but I have like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like they'll be puppies. They'll be like, oh, how to

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<v Speaker 3>make you know, where to get the best burger, how

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<v Speaker 3>to make the best like you know, homemade pizza. And

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<v Speaker 3>then also it's like hot women and it's like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't hide from that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like it knows where.

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<v Speaker 2>One watching that you slowed down. They fed you one

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<v Speaker 2>to test you. They saw that you slowed down, They

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<v Speaker 2>saw that you pinched to zoom in on her ass

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever you did, which is a normal.

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<v Speaker 3>I blinked twice, and it just it just knew. It

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<v Speaker 3>just knows everything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hearted it when you blink. That's a new tapping.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you're so right, like they they know and I

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<v Speaker 2>and they they but I don't like the insecurity thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was, as I was just talking to you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't I think they know my spending habits,

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<v Speaker 2>and instead of showing me things for a reasonable price,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're jacking up the price. Like I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, this person we know will spend this, So

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna make this sweater that we would maybe sell

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<v Speaker 2>to another girl for one hundred and twenty, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it three twenty, right and see and put it

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<v Speaker 2>under a different company name. But like, is that the

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<v Speaker 2>drop shipping shit where it's just like they just make

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<v Speaker 2>fake companies and market the same products whatever Tim Dillon's

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<v Speaker 2>been ranting about recently. I'm like, I think it's all

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<v Speaker 2>a scam and I'm tired of being a part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also do love when they kind of nail

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<v Speaker 2>it sometimes and I go, oh my god, I did

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<v Speaker 2>want to know this facial massage that yeah lifts right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would look cool in those pants. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fine with that, but yeah, and I buy them

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<v Speaker 3>and then I look, you know, it looks terrible. And

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<v Speaker 3>then how I have these pants that you apparently you

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<v Speaker 3>can't even return, makes it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, oh, that's a beat up box from China.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, Like you have no idea where you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a cool brand I'd never heard of, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it until you do buy it, yes, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it winds up being like post rid.

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<v Speaker 2>Of They like they'll show you the pant, they'll see

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<v Speaker 2>that you slowed down on it, right, and then they go, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>what else does he like? Oh, he likes basketball. We're

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<v Speaker 2>like put a like a basketball in the shot, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we'll put this guy walking on a court or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they go, oh, that didn't get him. We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna call this the Jordan pant because we know he

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<v Speaker 2>likes Michael Jordan. So that that's what they've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>to me with Taylor Swift. They'll change the name of

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<v Speaker 2>things to get into my swifty like just dedicated. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do anything, she says. Kind of brain. It's it's such manipulation,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's happening in in ways that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't even understand. And it's all a con which is

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of a thing that obviously you are very

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<v Speaker 2>either interested in or adverse to, based on I already

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<v Speaker 2>filled in our listeners on your podcast. I listened to

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<v Speaker 2>the first three episodes. How many episodes are there? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna meet your.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucking Oh, thank you so much for listening, But so

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<v Speaker 3>there's ten episodes all recorded already, and uh yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>been It was like a crazy, you know, crazy thing

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<v Speaker 3>to go through and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Well you really put yourself out there

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<v Speaker 2>for this because you can tell like you got this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast sold, it's gonna be big. Iheartradios behind it. You

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<v Speaker 2>have producers, you have people who give like they're like

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<v Speaker 2>making the story, and you gotta fucking deliver. And by

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<v Speaker 2>when you have to deliver, you might have to have

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<v Speaker 2>some You're gonna all these ideas you came up with

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<v Speaker 2>on a pitch of right, meet my dad, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to go fucking do that, right you completely Oh

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<v Speaker 3>thank god, yes, you completely get it. So basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when I sold the idea to iHeart, was like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I have my father, he's a con man and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we haven't spoken in twenty four years. And they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, well, how do you turn that into like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, X amount of episodes?

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, I'll do this, I'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Do that, and then it's like, but then you have

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<v Speaker 3>to be as vulnerable as possible and do it and

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<v Speaker 3>you actually go through with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You do because that's the content, man, Like, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to do it for people have invested in you now,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you pitch these things, you were like, they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of pie in the sky and it's even if

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<v Speaker 2>it was actually kind of really happening, you felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good thing that I do want to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, there's just something about pitching an episode where

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, I'll find my dad and talk sit down

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<v Speaker 2>and talk with them that you're like, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>have to do it, even though you will if you

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<v Speaker 2>do this. I've done that. Like I had a show

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<v Speaker 2>called not Safe on Comedy Central and it was about

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<v Speaker 2>sex and dating and we were fucking running out of ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think we were running out. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just first season. We really needed to reprove ourselves right,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the writer's room it was pitched. I had

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<v Speaker 2>done this one thing that was really funny where I

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed my best guy friends and asked them if they

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<v Speaker 2>want to have sex with me, and then a lie

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<v Speaker 2>detector would determined, like if we really were just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was really funny and it came out great, and

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<v Speaker 2>they go, what else can we do with a lie detector?

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<v Speaker 2>And my writers go, why don't we have your parents

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<v Speaker 2>in and you ask them about their sex life? And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, on paper, that is hilarious, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a home run. And it was. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>the most uncomfortable thing I've ever done. I hated it

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<v Speaker 2>so much and I I honestly regret doing it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's like just made some tension between me and my parents.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's I kind of sacrifice something and doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you reconnect with your sister. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to give too many but like there's so much to head.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only three episodes out now when do they come out?

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<v Speaker 3>So every Monday a new episode comes out from now

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<v Speaker 3>till August fifth is when the number.

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<v Speaker 2>One Dad, Number one Dad. This is such a summer

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<v Speaker 2>podcast to like binge on a road trip if you

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<v Speaker 2>have like a fun family vacation coming up and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is a podcast that we as a family can

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<v Speaker 2>consume together? And uh, a broken family, a broken well

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<v Speaker 2>anything great your family is because of how broken yours

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<v Speaker 2>is do you here's my I mean, we have so

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<v Speaker 2>much to get into, and but right out of the gate,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like it's as if I'm running into you

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<v Speaker 2>at the cellar and I just listened to this, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I just have to get all my questions

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<v Speaker 2>out of the way right now because you have to

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<v Speaker 2>go down and do a set or something. But feeling

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<v Speaker 2>this urgency, do you like uh with you? Oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>now I forgot my question. Uh are you like do

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<v Speaker 2>you hate cons Like do you hate when you trick people?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you hate feeling like you're being conned?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this made because your dad did this and it

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<v Speaker 2>was the reason for the suffering of a relationship? Like

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<v Speaker 2>is that something that is like, uh, you like panic

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<v Speaker 2>about when it happens to you in real life?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I'm pretty aware of like like situations,

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<v Speaker 3>so I feel like I'm like, I'm always thinking that

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's not telling the truth. So if anything, it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of put it like a bad taste in my mouth

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<v Speaker 3>in a sense of like not trusting people. But as

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<v Speaker 3>far as like, oh if I see somebody doing something dishonest,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, I'm definitely like, just like all right,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not my kind of person, or like this

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<v Speaker 3>person's bullshitting and I'm like all right, you know. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean we see it all the time with you know

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<v Speaker 3>in comedy where someone's like giving somebody a hug and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, meanwhile, you talk shit about that person, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes ago. So it's like, all right, that's not real.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like I already like don't like that person, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I will clock those people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, I clock them.

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<v Speaker 3>I never say it to their faith, but I'm like, oh, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not You're not my kind of person.

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<v Speaker 2>I do the same. And I am one to talk

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<v Speaker 2>shit and then be nice to someone. Oh. I do

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<v Speaker 2>it all the time, not because I and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel good about doing it, because I really am trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be someone who doesn't talk shit. Yes, have you

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<v Speaker 2>even heard of this in the comedy community? Like this

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<v Speaker 2>was first brought up to me by a comic that

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't really gossip because I was like

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<v Speaker 2>trying to talk shit about someone that would be fun

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<v Speaker 2>to just write off on, and he goes, I don't really.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to talk about people that I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>like say these things to their face, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is what are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>It was, but I then I explored it more and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, this in my research, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>pathway to being the most happy person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you give off so this energy when like

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about somebody, and it's like that energy could

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<v Speaker 3>just be used in such a different way and so

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<v Speaker 3>much more positive to your own stuff. It's instinct. But

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's how I grew up. Like I

0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.040
<v Speaker 3>grew up with like we're always talking, We're always talking shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Your friends are always talking shit. So it's like then

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<v Speaker 3>when you get to like comedy and it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a competitive thing going on.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit always and it's only about some who's doing better

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<v Speaker 2>than you. It's like rare. It's it's it's rare that

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<v Speaker 2>you're like almost punching down in comedy. I feel like

0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 2>it's generally when someone is like having a moment, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what everyone gets real chatty about them. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>so transparent to me. That's why I like to shit

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<v Speaker 2>on people when they're down, to really make it seem

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<v Speaker 2>like I really didn't like them all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's like you're not reading you're not reading your comments.

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<v Speaker 3>But like some people would just like you know, comment

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<v Speaker 3>on like a special and be like that's not funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Where it's like, hey, like you could. You're definitely entitled

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<v Speaker 3>to your opinion. One you also don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>To write it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like you see people laughing at you know,

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<v Speaker 3>our specials, like, clearly it is funny, you know there

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<v Speaker 3>They might not, you might not find it, but a

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<v Speaker 3>majority does see it as funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I mean, I hate to say that anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who comments something negative is jealous, but they are, and

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<v Speaker 2>they might be right in what they're saying. They might

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely think you're not funny, but essentially they're jealous that

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<v Speaker 2>you took a chance to do something that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>maybe didn't work out and they'll never have the balls

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, and that's what they hate about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they have to shit on it to then justify

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<v Speaker 2>why they don't do it, because then people would shoot

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<v Speaker 2>on me, like people like me, So that's why they

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Okay, Well we have to take a break,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to come back and I have so

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<v Speaker 2>many more questions about your podcast and and we'll just

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<v Speaker 2>talk in general. I haven't caught up with you in

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<v Speaker 2>so long. You're a father now since I last like

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<v Speaker 2>ran into you, and so much to talk about with

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Gary Veeter, the star and host and producer of Number

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<v Speaker 2>one Dad, which is a new podcast out. You should

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<v Speaker 2>doubled it right now. We'll be right back Gary. You're

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<v Speaker 2>a father now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>How I mean, how old is your kid? Because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the last time I saw you you were

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<v Speaker 2>guys were pregnant. Was it was pre pandemic?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, it was just that the start of the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 3>So June twentieth, June twentieth, June June third, twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>is when.

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<v Speaker 1>She had the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the baby and then so we have one we

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<v Speaker 3>actually have an we had another one since as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah yeah, so we have two two boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, and your your son and that's your oldest

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<v Speaker 2>son is Sully Sully.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think about the pilot often when you think

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<v Speaker 2>of that name, like, you know, so up for you.

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<v Speaker 3>My wife Ali heard grandfather's middle name was Sullivan, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we're like, oh, that's like a cool name. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you're like, oh, then the Pilot and then you're

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<v Speaker 3>like all right, and then the monsters inc and you're

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<v Speaker 3>like all right. So she's like part Irish and I

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.119
<v Speaker 3>was like, Oh, let's just do it. Let's throw it

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<v Speaker 3>in that movie Help with College and.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what Sully is was a cool guy? That guy

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<v Speaker 2>if she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did save those people. So it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>if he crashed, we probably still would have named him Sully.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he's just like a cool cultural icon and

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<v Speaker 2>and the rest of his life, your son's life, when

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<v Speaker 2>he gets people being like were you named up with

0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 2>the Pilot like that, it's only going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>select amount of people, like people that were born. Gen

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<v Speaker 2>Z doesn't know who Sully Sullenberger is. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like it was just a so it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a I like when something is someone's name and only

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<v Speaker 2>a few people know and they get it throughout their life,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not constant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like his name is cool, especially like right now he's

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<v Speaker 3>like the only kid in one of his any of

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 3>his class. He's only one class, but like his class

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 3>that has that name, and we haven't like really met

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<v Speaker 3>anybody with that name.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's really good. What's your other kid's name?

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<v Speaker 1>His name's Tyson.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Bladon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we went outside the box for that and.

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<v Speaker 2>This actually where did that come from?

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<v Speaker 3>So we had my wife and we used to have

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<v Speaker 3>a dog walking business together back in yeah, like pre pandemic,

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<v Speaker 3>and our favorite dog was named Tyson. So we were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>let's like and we just like like that name so much,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're like, all right, whatever, let's go with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we wanted another name that like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>kids don't have. Oh god, So yeah, really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that your kid was named after a dog, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like because it's funny. First of all, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a hilarious reason. Yeah, and uh, it's it's sweet because

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 2>it means that animals mean so much to us, like

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I just love everything about that and the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you and your wife obviously knew tons of

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.399
<v Speaker 2>dogs and that dog was super special. What was so

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 2>special about that dog?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he was a puggle and we wound up getting

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 3>puggles after that too, Like you talk so much.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just like fine, ad As Tyson are.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we like are we?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we love ours but like but at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, Like he was so cool and he was chill,

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 3>and we would always like watch him and you'd like

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<v Speaker 3>stay over our house.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>And then uh, and then I mean we also like

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 3>the name because like Mike Tyson, you know, like it's cool,

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 3>so it gives you like a toughness and so cool,

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 3>and he's like he kind of lives up to like

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's funny. It's like you do take on

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<v Speaker 3>your name a little bit, like like Gary is the

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<v Speaker 3>worst name. I hate it so much, but it's like

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<v Speaker 3>I have adapted to it now. Yeah, now it's coming

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<v Speaker 3>back your whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>No last year, I think it's like now it's like

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<v Speaker 2>because it was kind of not a cool name, it

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<v Speaker 2>is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of feel like there are like times that

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<v Speaker 3>are changing with it a little bit so, but like

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<v Speaker 3>I'll definitely never get too cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it keeps you humble. You can't you can't ever

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<v Speaker 2>get That's so true. What the fuck names do really

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 2>define you? Tyson is such a great one and so

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 2>is solely good job with those. I mean, this whole

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.400
<v Speaker 2>podcast is exploring your relationship with your father. Now you're

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<v Speaker 2>a father, and you're like reflecting and comparing the experiences

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>and you're having sure your wife with who I love

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<v Speaker 2>your wife on the podcast, she so shows it. She's

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<v Speaker 2>so cool and comfortable. Isn't it so infuriating when the

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<v Speaker 2>people your wife doesn't do comedy first, no living or

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<v Speaker 2>anything of course, and she's like so natural, and you're like,

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? I try so hard at this?

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's like the not trying and it's just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>not caring, and like I feel like like she and

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<v Speaker 3>like other people like when I when I talk to

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 3>my sisters, like they don't really know what like a

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 3>podcast is, like, yeah, you're being recorded as you talk,

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 3>but they don't think about it and they just like

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<v Speaker 3>go and they wound up all being good voices. And

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<v Speaker 3>my wife especially like this is the way that she sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they all are great because I think you're right,

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 2>because we obviously know from doing stand up for so

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>long that the way to be truly great is when

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>you break through and you're kind of able to be

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 2>yourself on stage or at least relaxed right and not

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 2>be like I'm performing, And they they have that naturally

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.119
<v Speaker 2>because they don't give a fuck because there's the stakes

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 2>aren't high for them because of the nature of it

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 2>being an audio thing. I mean, I'm sure if your

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 2>wife was on camera it would be a little bit

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, totally that could but you can kind of

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 2>forget the records there, and so she's just so natural

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 2>where as you You're also amazing on it, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>question about it. But like I'm just you know, projecting

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>that I when I know him being on a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's like a conversation in the car, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of on in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we were, like you know, some of our

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 3>conversations they do go on in the car. They're going

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 3>like we're kind of on like the move while I'm

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 3>doing the podcast, so you know, I'm hitting record, like

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 3>we're on my way to my mom's house to talk

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 3>about my father we haven't spoken about in twenty four years,

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.719
<v Speaker 3>and Ali's in the car and then so I'm getting

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 3>like the real time like interaction, and I'm like, I

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 3>want her to say certain things, but I also want

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 3>it to I need to say, like listen. So You're like,

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 3>but it is we're going there to talk to him,

0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 3>and you kind of want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Apply wild scene. Okay, So Gary had not talked to

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 2>his mom about his dad, who he's who he was

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 2>stranged from since he was fifteen, hasn't spoken to his

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>dad and since then, but hasn't spoken about his dad

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>to his mom since then.

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Either, correct? Nothing.

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we have not even mentioned his name, mentioned

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 3>his names, no, like never like looked at a picture

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 3>and been like, oh, this is a picture of you

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 3>and your dad.

0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>It's like watching a TV show and there's like a

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>dad on it. Do you get do you turn off

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 2>like a sex scene, Like I'm.

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Not watching TV with my mom ever?

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, but if we yes, if we if we were,

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>it would just be like not even hard. Yeah, it

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 3>would be awkward and not even talked about, Like oh yeah,

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 3>if you see a father playing catch with his son,

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 3>it's like the first thing you're thinking about is that is.

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're look over there a bird? Yeah, like

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>anything that's not because that is that's so wild to

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 2>me that you But that's I mean, that's like family

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 2>dynamics when there's a lot of shit going on. Is

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.719
<v Speaker 2>do we get into what went went on out? Like

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I know your dad was a con man and lied

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 2>for a living literally and could not not lie and

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>just seems to have had that kind of personality disorder. Yeah,

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>that he was not struggling with because he's probably also

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 2>a narcissist, so they don't struggle with it. But it's

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>also something that's made him a strange from his family

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>and kind of is a fucked up thing to have.

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Even though he'll probably never understand that was there, there's

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 2>other things at play though that led to you never

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 2>talking to him again. Correct.

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, so we do get into those and it's like,

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, in the beginning, it was very much like

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 3>an attack. It seemed like my mom and that were

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 3>like physical but like verbal that they would get into

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 3>and things were like so bad. It's like the house

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 3>you're growing up, you know, up in, and you're you're

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 3>just witnessing, like these two people go at it and

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>it's like, you know, parents fight, but the way that

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 3>they would argue was like they would It became a

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 3>thing where the kids are getting involved, and then eventually

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 3>like we're involved in a sense where my father started

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 3>doing stuff to manipulate the situation with my mom and

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 3>the divorce, so like he could get an upper hand

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 3>and he would take things out on us in like

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 3>certain ways, which I'll get into.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is.

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, it's not good stuff where you're like,

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 3>if you're a dad who like loves his kids, you know,

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 3>part of being a dad is being selfless. It's like

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, you put your kids in, you know, before yourself,

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 3>and he didn't seem like that was you know what

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 3>he had, Like those were never his intentions and he

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 3>really you know pushed us away and eventually not only me,

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 3>but my sisters and of course my mom.

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, just cut them off.

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>God, that's so fucking rough because it does sound like

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>he I mean, have you diagnosed him within this?

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's hard because like there's a lot of

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 3>stuff like I couldn't like get into just because of

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 3>like legal stuff. So it's like you know, yeah, like

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, so you could say like yeah, you know,

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 3>I could be like, oh yeah, he's a sociopath or

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 3>you know he's you know, narcissists and things like that,

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 3>and like he is. I mean, like that's you know,

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 3>it really goes without like you don't need like uh,

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, some like somebody with like a degree to

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 3>like tell you that, like I could you know, you

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 3>just see it. It's like everything he did he love lying,

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 3>he loved to scam, and that's kind of just how

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 3>he lived his life. And he you know, his goal

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 3>was it seemed like maybe it was to like benefit

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 3>the family with his lives, but if we got hurt

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 3>in the process, like you know, it didn't mean anything

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 3>to him.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>It just it just came with the territory.

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, yeah, the things he did to benefit the

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>family could look like it was benefiting the family, but

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 2>ultimately just him because benefiting the family was probably benefiting him.

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Like these people just operate just like me, me, me,

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and nothing else matters.

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>And we're around that a lot. Yeah, we're around that

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Obviously in comedy, like I'm part of being a comedian,

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 3>you have to be very selfish. I mean, like you

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 3>are going to be putting your family to the side

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 3>because like, hey, to do this, you have to you

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>have to figure out ways to where you could do it,

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 3>and you're going to miss out on different events and

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 3>things like that. And I think like with my dad

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 3>being a con man, it was kind of like the

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 3>same thing. But when you have a family, you do

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 3>have to make that take like you know, priority.

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>God, that is That's the reason I just don't want

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 2>kids is because I just think i'll sent them from

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>for making me do things for them that I want

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>to do for myself, or I just feel bad because

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll be selfish and I won't do the thing that

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 2>they would be better for them because I just want

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>it my way. And it's it's just like a thing

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I know about myself that I just don't. I don't

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I won't enjoy naps as much if I know there's

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>like a little kid that would want to be playing

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 2>with me, and so I'll take the nap and neglect

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 2>the kid, but I won't even enjoy the nap.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these are the things I'm thinking about.

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Like, and that's totally good. That's good that you think

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 3>about that, because there are people that then go through

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 3>with it and then then they have this like bad feeling.

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 3>So you know, it really depends what you want and

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 3>maybe that changes, but like, but yeah, it's totally understandable.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you don't you do you don't want to

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 3>put somebody in a position where it's like, oh, now

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 3>maybe they don't like you because you're not spending time.

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 3>But it's like you're but yes, when you become a parent,

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>you have a responsibility, and it's like that's got to

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>be what you know takes the forefront.

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, and you say, you even say, I love

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>how you say that. Your dad always said to you

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 2>you'll understand when you get older, and you're like, I'm

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>older and I don't get it because now you're a father,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and the idea of doing the things that your dad

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 2>did for sure to you And the fact that I

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 2>forget where I saw this club maybe was on we

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>might be drunk or something where and you'll probably cover

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>it in the show. But your dad wouldn't even introduce

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't even your dad. He would be a photographer

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>and you would be a sports illustrated reporter that were

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 2>just together.

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Why would you guys be like so yeah, so I mean,

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 3>like the biggest con that we did dah, yeah exactly.

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Because it's a chaperone anyway for sure.

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Agent yeah, oh exactly. It made no sense. My dad,

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 3>he just levet the lie. So yeah, the biggest con

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 3>we had was going to Madison Square Garden as a

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 3>sports illociat for kids, reported me and then he would

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 3>go as my photographer, but he wouldn't say that he

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 3>was my dad.

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 2>He was your photography.

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>God. Yeah, and then but.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 3>So he would do this and it's like why he

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 3>would he would present himself as a photographer of a

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 3>different last name to me, who was just this random

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 3>kid this I guess like genius reporter that's like nine

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 3>ten years old that could.

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Just feel what though you don't even have to be

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>good when you're like being touted as this like kids

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>order Like I was kind of thinking, like what if

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Gary wasn't good at it? And it's like it doesn't matter.

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 2>The kids are always not good, Like everyone just gives

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 2>them the benefit of the doubt. Would you get nervous

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>about interviewing these people? Was this something you wanted or

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 2>was your dad kind of like, no, you're going to

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>do this?

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 3>And then I wanted it. I wanted it because I

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 3>wanted to go to the games. I wanted to see

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 3>the I wanted to see for myself. It was never

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 3>a thing where we were like getting caught because I

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 3>was with my dad. He just kind of seemed invincible,

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 3>So I was along for the ride. But I would

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 3>get nervous. But it's like one of those things where

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>it kind of taught me early on to like be

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 3>around people that are like higher up where you're like, oh,

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I felt what it was like to be nervous in

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 3>front of them, and I was like, all right, well,

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 3>in the future, when I am around people who are

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>like famous or you know, high up, I don't have

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>to be nervous. So it kind of like gave me

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 3>that edge in a way. Oh but so that's like

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 3>I guess perhaps to my dad in that sense, but

0:33:57.920 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 3>like putting me in these.

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Situations used to it, or because I saw like like

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>they're that impressive or like they're kind of just humans.

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 3>You got, Yeah, you got what you got used to it,

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 3>so you know it's like bombing on stage, It's like,

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 3>all right, that's what that feels like. So it's like, oh,

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 3>this is what it feels like to be nervous in

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 3>front of Michael Jordan, that's like the biggest person you

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 3>could meet ever.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you asked him what his favorite food was.

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I'm just a good question.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I think, cute question, Like no one was asking him that.

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Listen to the podcast to find out what Michael Jordan said.

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think that's a good point. I get. Really,

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm so cool most of the time and

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of control over my nervous system for

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 2>the most part, until I get to meet someone that

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm really like is so famous, and I kind of

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 2>I start shaking something you met with no yes, but

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:47.919
<v Speaker 2>before I was like a huge fan. But I met

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 2>her boyfriend Travis Kelcey, and I found that my teeth

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 2>were chattering, like literally, like it was so embarrassing and

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>it and I was filming a thing with him and

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 2>on camera I was fine, and then having like him

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>just being like where are oh, where are you from

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 2>in Ohio? I couldn't remember the city I was from,

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 2>and my teeth were chattering because of just his you know,

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 2>he's a big deal for sure, but his proximity to

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 2>her rendered me almost like I was having a stroke,

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Like I was felt trapped in my body and like

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 2>abandoned by my body, and in a way that I

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't want to do this anymore, like

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>this isn't this isn't a good look. I don't like

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 2>to feel out of control. So have you met famous

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>people now, and you like, what's what's your tip for

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess just doing you just said, just do it

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>a bunch.

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I get I know, yeah, do it a bunch,

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I guess just like try and act normal.

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, here's the thing. When I was when

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.760
<v Speaker 3>you're a kid, it's like there's so much more warm

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 3>to you. So it's like as you know, as an adult,

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 3>unless you know, they know what you do, and then

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 3>it's like, oh hey, what's going on. So it's just

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>try and just be as normal as you did.

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 2>America's Got Talent. Yeah, we're the judges, and you went

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 2>pretty far right.

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, finals went to the finals and then Howard Stern,

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Howie Mandel, Heidi Klum and Melbay and then Nick Cannon

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.760
<v Speaker 3>was like the major d or whatever.

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was he cool to you?

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>He was cool? He was really cool.

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's really cool. I like him a lot. I

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>just did the thing on the Mass Singer and I

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 2>was just impressed at how nice he was.

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm very professional, like yeah, crazy, there's there's no

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 3>one not an easy job. Like you know when he

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 3>when he was on America's Got Talent, Like I was

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.399
<v Speaker 3>just like watching like all the stuff that they made him,

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, go through and like just like you know,

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 3>reading a telepromter's not the easiest thing, and like you

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 3>know he's nailing it, like yeah, and I'm just that's

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.280
<v Speaker 3>the stuff where you're like, oh, that's super impressive.

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 2>When you did that show? Did they was it just

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 2>they call like your you heard from your agent? So

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 2>there was auditions and they're like send a tape or

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 2>did someone come to a show?

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 3>What was so somebody, I guess some like producer got

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 3>like my cone in set and they're like, oh, you

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 3>could come down and like do an audition, and they

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 3>put me right in front of like the actual judges

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 3>on like the first thing. So yeah, so I got lucky.

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 3>I got like bypassed of like any like actual like

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 3>senten tape yea. And then from there then I was

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 3>just able to like advance, but like I had no

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 3>idea like the situation and it they really put I

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 3>mean you did I mean last comic and I don't

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.399
<v Speaker 3>know if it was the same thing where they had

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 3>us waiting in like this room for like hours and

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 3>then finally you would go and do your audition and

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 3>like you're like drained.

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Because it's like you're geat with comics at mine.

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>You were so much better Paris.

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, exact, and I'm like, oh this par

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, he'll go on before me and then Fanned.

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:31.359
<v Speaker 2>And yeah ventral Quiss. Yeah, it's what a wild thing.

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 2>So you would be there for hours and then by

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the time you go up.

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 3>You're hoping that that Yeah, and I remember that audition

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 3>that I did was like the crowd was like two

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 3>pm at the New Jersey Performing Arts Center in Newark,

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 3>and You're like, oh, this is a great comedy audience.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 3>But luckily it's like I think you only had to

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 3>do like sixty seconds the first time, so I'm like,

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 3>so hopefully this is like, you know, good, and and

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 3>then it did go great and so uh yeah, I

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 3>was able to advance.

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's was that. Uh did that was that a

0:37:58.000 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 2>big career moment for you? Like did you feel like

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>things picked up?

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Things got where it's like got an agent out of

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 3>it and then the manager and then yeah, so.

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 2>You recognize from it.

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes where it's like, you know, now they've had so

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 3>many seasons where it all blends in.

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but it wasn't that long. When were you

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 2>on I say twenty yeah, okay, but I that is

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess that is long enough that people could like forget,

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 2>but people can watch you. Like I had a pop

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 2>after the Tom Brady Rose because my face was everywhere

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>for like two days. It was really insane, and so

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I was getting recognized all the time, and it was like, oh,

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 2>this is just a new part of my life. It

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>fucking falls off.

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.760
<v Speaker 1>So it does, oh completely, well.

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Aren't seeing your face regularly when they look at you

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>at Starbucks, They're just they don't put it together. It

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 2>might have a flicker of a thing, but it's I was,

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, both like a little bit disheartened and also

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 2>so happy to go back to the way it was

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>almost instantly, but also to realize, like, okay, I could

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't even have a bigger pop than that, Like

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 2>this might be as big as it gets, and like

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that's good and it's nice to know what it feels

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.879
<v Speaker 2>like to have that other thing. But it's it kind

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 2>of just reminded me of just there's just too much

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 2>stuff and our retention spans so much long enough, and

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just a different world we're operating in and I

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 2>don't even know sometimes like what the point of it

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.760
<v Speaker 2>all is. I question that of like do you feel

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 2>a new sense of like artistic accomplishment though, and doing

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 2>this kind of like docu series podcast. I mean, yeah,

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>so outside of what we do.

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:31.280
<v Speaker 3>I so yeah, So I think like in that sense

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 3>because it's different than like, you know, we're in this

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 3>comedy world where it's like, all right, we're going to

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 3>do stand up and here's a special and then that's cool.

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 3>But like this is just some shows, like another creative side.

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 3>So I was like cool to like to me, that's

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 3>cool to like just show that.

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, this is fun to do.

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 3>And I really I'm happy with like how so far,

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 3>like with how it's going, and yeah, I hope like

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 3>people are excited, like as each episode, you know, I've

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 3>just gone.

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Pumped for the rest. Like I zip through them today,

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 2>all the first three this morning, and I thought there

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.959
<v Speaker 2>was just three because it didn't say like of three

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 2>of ten. So I was like, oh, this is okay.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I guess we're only finishing this in three twenty four

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 2>minute episodes. Okay, well good, And then I'm like, he

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 2>hasn't met his dad yet, but the fuck. So I'm

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 2>so excited to hear there were more, and I'm so

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 2>excited to listen to the rest of it again. It's

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 2>called Number one Dad. It's on wherever you get your podcasts.

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 2>iHeart Radio and Big Money Players back with more after

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 2>this with Gary Peter. Gary. Are you on the road

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 2>right now too?

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 3>So I have a bunch of bunch of dates coming well,

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 3>definitely coming out, but right now I'm doing like so

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 3>much promo. But in July and August I have like

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:43.240
<v Speaker 3>some dates and like Albany and Connecticut or landing.

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.439
<v Speaker 2>So many podcasts right now. Oh yeah, it's what number

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 2>is this for you today?

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Actually tell you this is my first one, so good

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 3>to give you more after this, I have to do

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 3>one like a like a it's like a dad's podcast.

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:56.959
<v Speaker 1>I forget what it's exactly.

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry to put you on

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the spot. I don't know the name of any up

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 2>here on and then I or like the host names

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm trying to look on zoom and be like, oh,

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't. I should have researched this before. When you

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 2>going through press, it's like one after the other and uh,

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>it's it's pretty insane, but it's this podcast is going

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 2>to I mean my boyfriend even I told him you

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>were gonna be on the show, and he didn't know

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.839
<v Speaker 2>your name from the show, but then I described your story,

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, yeah, I saw that ad too. So

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 2>it's getting goods and everyone's algorithm.

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing with the pants. I mean, this is so.

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like you asked me about like as far

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 3>as like from a creative standpoint, I'm like, I like,

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm like happy with it, like it's doing. I'm surprised

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 3>that people like it for read like they like it

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 3>for different reasons.

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>They like it.

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you come from a good family, you

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 3>might like it just because you're seeing what a band

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 3>family is what we talked about, or if like some

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 3>people are like, oh, I haven't talked to my sister

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 3>in ten years, like and now hearing like you go

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 3>through that, you know, it really like wants me to

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:56.399
<v Speaker 3>like reach out to her.

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Think so it's like talk to misters and how long

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>it was six years for me? Yes?

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, So she hadn't seen the birth of your son

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and you had kind of missed down on her kids' lives. Yes,

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.760
<v Speaker 2>as well, And she said that she it was really sweet.

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.280
<v Speaker 2>She you call her you tell her you're doing the podcast.

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Was there a part of you that was gonna be like, oh,

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 2>so now you're reaching out because you have a podcast,

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 2>like that's the only.

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, yeah, So yeah, she was on board with it.

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 3>So I gave her heads up like that it was

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 3>a podcast, and like, you know, through text we were

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 3>like kind of like settling stuff and then I was

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 3>able to get her to like to record. But yeah,

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's part of like having a dad that

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:37.439
<v Speaker 3>it you know, was this person you're just going through

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 3>with it? Hopefully you know there's I mean, there's gonna

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 3>be some damage, but hopefully that these people that you

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 3>know that you cut off in your life, that they

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 3>they you know, want to talk about it and want

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 3>to be a part of it.

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean this idea of cutting someone off and like,

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 2>did you think with your sister you'd never speak to

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 2>her again when you decided to do that, or was

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 2>this like, oh, we'll just take up I just need

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 2>to make a stance here. Was that really like something

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>until this podcast? Kind of Yeah for you? Did you

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:05.800
<v Speaker 2>think it was probably like never again?

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know if it was going to be never again,

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 3>but it was kind of like you said, like like

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 3>just a stance where I know I as far as

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, she talked to my dad again. That's the

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 3>whole reason why we cut why I cut her off,

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 3>is because she talked to my dad again. I think

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 3>it was probably I guess it was like twenty seventeen.

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 3>And when I found out. When I found out about it,

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, like, I mean we didn't like

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 3>say we're never talking to him again like as a

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.800
<v Speaker 3>as like a siblings, but it was kind of assumed.

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 3>And then he felt betrayed, and it was I didn't

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 3>want to let him into my life. And I felt

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 3>that if my sister was in my life and I

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.359
<v Speaker 3>was telling her things, then he was going to have

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 3>access to that.

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't said he would just like show up

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 2>at your guys's, in your guys' lives like would because

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 2>for first, I'm thinking this is an absentee father. He's

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 2>just like lying in business, showing up, using the kids

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 2>when he needs them, but not really meddling in their

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>lives much else. Right, But this was a guy that

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 2>would show like your sister's on a date and he

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:05.239
<v Speaker 2>like just showed up there and like.

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he was Florida. I mean he yeah, you

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>know Florida.

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you know she was in a completely different state,

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 3>and then you know he he taps her on the shoulder,

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 3>and it's so it's kind of like this thing where

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.720
<v Speaker 3>it's like you always felt like you were being watched,

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 3>even though you know, even though I cut him off

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 3>twenty four you know, for twenty four years, I was like,

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:25.800
<v Speaker 3>is he in the audience of one of my shows?

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Because this guy could you know, impersonate to anybody?

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Because he'd he you have a recording of him talking

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 2>in Greek. Yes, he speaks French. I guess like he

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 2>just is a shape shifter and so and and that

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 2>that video that you played of him that was from

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 2>like twenty seventeen, that was like in Manhattan, you could

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 2>have just run into him. Was that a thing that

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 2>you thought about throughout your life of like completely what'd

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 2>he be there and have known that you he knows

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 2>your comedian? How could he have Has he tried to

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:56.839
<v Speaker 2>get in touch with you and get in on some

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:58.879
<v Speaker 2>of this fame, especially when you've had your pops over

0:44:58.880 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the years.

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:02.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I locked him from like every like type

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 3>of social media to like know that like where, like,

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 3>so he wouldn't be able to kind of track me down.

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 3>But I assume that, you know, it's pretty easy if

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 3>you just google and be like, oh here, you know,

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:15.959
<v Speaker 3>here's my show schedule, and then you could just.

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Like show up there.

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 3>But uh, but yeah, I was just always in the

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 3>back of my mind, always hoping that he wouldn't do that.

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I could see him just like getting a private table

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 2>at the stand, them really hooking him up. They come

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I haven't talked to my son forever.

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 2>They're like, come on in, and then yeah, like at

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 2>a front table. Like he just seems like the kind

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>of guy that would do that. But I guess he

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 2>just really knew you did not want to speak to him,

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and that was very very clear.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I mean I wouldn't. I mean, who knows.

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 3>As far as I know, he like didn't show up

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 3>and like, but you know, I could also see him

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 3>just showing up and then not saying anything.

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Well what about Okay, so you said you blocked him

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 2>on Facebook, but was there a time that you were

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 2>friends on Facebook? Because if you stopped talking to him

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>when you were fifteen, that was pre Facebook, so it.

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Was nocked before like you, like, he even has a chance. Yeah,

0:45:58.400 --> 0:45:59.359
<v Speaker 1>before he even has a chance.

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh Gary, this is so crazy. What the fuck?

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 2>So you have to I'm guessing you're I'm not going

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 2>to ask you, but I'm guessing you eventually speak to

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 2>him or at least you get pretty fucking close to

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:12.320
<v Speaker 2>doing it. Were you Was it one of the scariest

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 2>things you've ever done in your life? Embarking on this?

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Was this like one of the hardest things?

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay?

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Were there moments where you go, what why am I

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>doing this?

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, let's say straight up, the goal is to

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 3>talk to him, like that is everything. So you know,

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:26.880
<v Speaker 3>I put that on paper when I like said that

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 3>I was doing this, and I'm like, and you know,

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 3>as you go through the whole process, you're like, all right,

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 3>this is most likely going to happen. I'm like, I'm like,

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:38.799
<v Speaker 3>am I gonna be ready for it? But part of

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 3>what I'm going through, like you know, talking to my

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.879
<v Speaker 3>sisters and like really trying to re remember the things

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 3>that happened, you know, going to uh speak to my

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 3>mom and like going and talking with therapists and all

0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.919
<v Speaker 3>this stuff, and talking to friends too. It like kind

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 3>of trying to build up like the courage to eventually

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 3>talk to him.

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, because when you're on the way over to your

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 2>mom's house, so you've never to your mom about your

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 2>dad since you were a strange from him when you

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 2>were fifteen. So you're going over there. Your wife's in

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 2>the car with you, and we were saying how great

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 2>she is, and she's like, so, what are you going

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 2>to say? And you're like, you have. It reminded me

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 2>so much of like how we prepare to do a

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 2>set or something. For me, at least, I'm just like,

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:16.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'll figure out when I get there.

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Like when I'm nervous about something, I don't prepare because

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to think about what I'm about to do.

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:23.959
<v Speaker 2>It has to happen anyway, so me thinking about it's

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 2>just going to elongate the pain. So you really had

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of no plan how to bring up your dad

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 2>for the first time, not just you know, this is

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>like the first time he's ever talked about his dad

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.280
<v Speaker 2>with his mom in that long It's like the elephant

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 2>in the room all the time. And you tell her

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I got a podcast. I'm sure she was very pleased

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 2>to hear that, and then you tell her that it's

0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 2>about your dad.

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>And that is the fun Yes, sound effects, yeah she has,

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, and she's very dramatic too, so it's

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.799
<v Speaker 1>just like going so going going through it.

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 3>You're like and so you see her face like light

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 3>up that like I tell her that I yes, her

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Bock is like my son, like he's doing something you know,

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 3>maybe well we broke like and then uh, and then

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:06.359
<v Speaker 3>it's like but you know, the catch is like this,

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, terrible thing that happened in our in our lives, and.

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 2>You guys have to listen because there's just a sound

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 2>effect that happens when she finds out it's about the dad,

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's just so funny. And you know, if you're

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>writing this, you would have put something similar. It's just

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 2>it's there's there's like a record scratch moment. It's so good.

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 2>But I'm I just really in that you really didn't

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 2>know how the fuck you were going to bring it up,

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 2>because how can you prepare You don't.

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Have no idea.

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 3>And I waited, like you know, I I walk into

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 3>my mom's house and I, I mean, the goal is

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:36.839
<v Speaker 3>to tell her that I'm going to be doing this thing,

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 3>and I it's always been very hard for me to

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 3>ever talk to my mom, like just in general. I'm like,

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 3>it's hard for me to be vulnerable. Why, Yeah, exactly.

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.720
<v Speaker 3>It's just whatever I was taught and like this emotion

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 3>that I lack, it's just like it's just grown on me,

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 3>and it's like it makes me it makes it very

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.319
<v Speaker 3>hard to have conversations with her. And this is such

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 3>a serious thing to bring up. And I'm like I'm

0:48:57.960 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 3>seeing my wife in like the corner of the room,

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 3>like a hour and a half into this like stay

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 3>at my mom's where she is like look at me, like,

0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:05.320
<v Speaker 3>when are you going to say something?

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's an hour and a half in.

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's yeah, it's like an hour and a half in.

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like we we just like sat down to like eat,

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 3>and like we're waiting to like I think, like you know,

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 3>we passed bagels or whatever. And then I'm like, I

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 3>guess now's the time.

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you just you just rip off the band aid.

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that sounds like how it went now. I mean

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you're someone who I mean, you talk in your stand

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 2>about your personal life, but you're just like a guy

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:31.359
<v Speaker 2>who kind of keeps like you're just you. I don't

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 2>think of you as you're you're obviously are you comfortable

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about your feelings? I mean you go to therapy.

0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I remember we were talking about couples therapy. I think

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the last conversations before COVID happened where I

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 2>was talking to you about, Uh, you were going to

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 2>couple therapy and that's the woman who shows up on

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:48.799
<v Speaker 2>your podcast as your therapist too, and what got you

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 2>into therapy? And uh, this seems to be the product

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of therapy, the idea that you could

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 2>even do this podcast.

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I mean couples.

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, I did go to one on one I

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 3>saw Alan, which was like that the comics, and that

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 3>was yeah, so I did that.

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:07.840
<v Speaker 2>So this guy Alan in New York saw every male

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 2>stand up comedian, some females, but usually just for one

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 2>session intertally. H No, I think that, I think pretty much.

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I would say, like, how many so many comics do

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 2>you think this guy sees?

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean I would say, oh, I mean yeah, I

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 3>mean I would honestly put it like an over one hundred.

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Like it was everyone.

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 3>It was such a referral base where it's like, oh,

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 3>like you're you know, every comic, like we all have

0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 3>something and you know, everybody has something to talk about.

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 3>So you're like, oh, I'm here's my friend who does comedy.

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I respect him, and he's seeing this person. I'm like,

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 3>it seems like he's doing better. I guess, so let

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 3>me go. And you start talking to this guy Alan

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 3>and you're like, oh, he's good.

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:49.919
<v Speaker 1>Now. Hey. It for me, it didn't work because it.

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Was like it's not one size fits all.

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and here's the thing, like my issues were like yes,

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.399
<v Speaker 3>it was so much childhood stuff and like you're trying

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 3>to overcome I mean, I guess everybody's it always goes

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 3>back to your childhood and so you're always trying to

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:06.359
<v Speaker 3>overcome that. And what really helped was when my wife

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 3>and I started going to a couples counseling, like we're

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 3>having problems.

0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>We almost got divorce.

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, I remember this, and I'm glad you're willing to

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. What what was your biggest issue? And

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:15.839
<v Speaker 2>then how did you get past it?

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 3>She would say it's me, and I would say it

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 3>was her, but no, but it was like no, I

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 3>would say, like the biggest issue was like we so

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 3>there are a few things. One like all my stuff

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 3>that like all the stuff that I dealt with like

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 3>as a kid, I would bring that bagage into the relationship.

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 3>And then my wife had her own stuff, like she

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 3>she was a big alcoholic. You know, I guess you

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 3>don't have to say big alcoholic. She was an alcoholic.

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>She was bigger than most alcoholics.

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:45.399
<v Speaker 3>But she yeah right, ye did give like I mean

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:47.719
<v Speaker 3>like she's huge, yeah, out of control.

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.800
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, okay if she's coming from that, which

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 2>most of us, a lot of us are, yeah, that

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 2>just obviously she has her shit too.

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we both had it and we were just

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.399
<v Speaker 3>trying to like live together without this resentment. She got

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 3>sober and I was sort of like still dealing with

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:07.880
<v Speaker 3>like my stuff of like just I don't know, and

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 3>were you do drink? I like really slowed down, so

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 3>I'll drink like very you.

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Have a problem. You're not a big ayeah, probbably a

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:18.239
<v Speaker 2>little one. Okay. So yeah, but that's the thing is

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 2>like you don't have a thing to quit like she Okay,

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 2>she gets into recovery and she's working on her shit.

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 2>And then for people who don't have like an addiction

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to a substance that is really definable, as like this

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 2>is the this is where we start at least and

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.439
<v Speaker 2>then get into stuff you like, don't have anything to quit,

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Like I think so often there are people that don't,

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 2>that aren't drug addicts, that are struggling in life and

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.880
<v Speaker 2>depressed and having all these problems in the relationships, and

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 2>they're like, man, if I only had a twelve step

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 2>program for this thing, that I'm right for sure the

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:47.799
<v Speaker 2>thing is there. There are those and it's you know,

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:51.239
<v Speaker 2>it's usually like children of alcoholics or like children of

0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:53.879
<v Speaker 2>there's always some kind of group that you can find.

0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:57.120
<v Speaker 2>But what did you was that does that resonate with

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you that you kind of felt like what is my

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:00.120
<v Speaker 2>thing totally?

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Or like you just don't you know.

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:03.839
<v Speaker 3>I was looking at her as like as the one

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 3>who's the only one who had issues in our relationship.

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 3>So you're like seeing it because that was the big

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 3>like red flag, right there was like this person that

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 3>was drinking uncontrollably. But then my wife got sober and

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, she's been sober for like nine years already,

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 3>and you're like so yeah, and you're like, oh, like

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 3>then you start looking at like yourself, because like I

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 3>started having you know, like we would get an argument

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 3>still and like or I would have resentment for like

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 3>past stuff.

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Like you have to move on.

0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 3>And that's where like couples counseling like really helped, where

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:34.319
<v Speaker 3>you're like you have to put all the things that

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 3>happened in the past. There's never any like infidelity or anything,

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:39.400
<v Speaker 3>like you can move past things like how do you

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 3>how do you communicate with one another? And and like

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, my wife's on the podcast, like like you said,

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 3>like she does like the way that she presents things.

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 3>She's always very like articulate and like really like could

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 3>like express her feelings and and she's much better at

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:52.920
<v Speaker 3>that than me.

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And she's really like opened me up.

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 3>And I think like a couple's counseling has really taught

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 3>me like how to like have conversations and really not

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:03.240
<v Speaker 3>never to go to bed angry, not that sometimes we don't,

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 3>but like you know, we get over our problems pretty quickly.

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, isn't that what I go to with my boyfriend

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:10.719
<v Speaker 2>And we've been together off and on for ten years

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and it's very similar, Like we have had many times

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 2>where we go like This could go either way, like

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:18.280
<v Speaker 2>we could gladly walk away from this and like literally

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:21.359
<v Speaker 2>essentially divorce and never talk again, or we could just

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 2>try to fix it. And there's been so many times

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 2>where I didn't try to fix it. But I think

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:30.839
<v Speaker 2>it is about It's always about communication. It's about like

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:34.400
<v Speaker 2>saying you're upset as soon as you're upset, yes, is

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:35.080
<v Speaker 2>that like what.

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:36.800
<v Speaker 1>It boils down to completely?

0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:38.879
<v Speaker 3>And I witness, like, so my wife and I were

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 3>having these problems, and it just all made me think

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 3>of is my parents' marriage, Like I watched them have

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 3>this troubled marriage. I'm like, oh my god, this is

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:48.040
<v Speaker 3>the last thing I wanted. I never wanted to have

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 3>a marriage that we're like, you're fighting and arguing and.

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:51.879
<v Speaker 2>You don't bring anything up.

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I was just like a fight. Yeah, completely,

0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.919
<v Speaker 3>I would just shut down. So and it just made

0:54:57.920 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 3>it very hard where I'm like and then so finally,

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.760
<v Speaker 3>but couples counseling was the thing that my father, I remember,

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 3>never wanted to ever go to. And I was like,

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:08.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go to this and see if it works,

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:10.480
<v Speaker 3>and wound up finding like a really great therapist and

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:13.040
<v Speaker 3>we were able to talk through things.

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it is such a good thing to

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 2>have completely My boyfriend and I like, he wasn't someone

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that had gone to individual therapy, but he dabbled in

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:24.879
<v Speaker 2>it but was not like super into it. And after

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.200
<v Speaker 2>our first session, he was like, I think I'm good

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 2>at this, and I'm, yeah, yeah, you are, because you were.

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:31.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you for a reason. You're so intelligent, You're

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 2>curious about yourself, and this is all it is, is

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:36.200
<v Speaker 2>like kind of peeling back the layers and being just

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:40.320
<v Speaker 2>curious and being insightful, and it's like it's a cool

0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:43.240
<v Speaker 2>thing to do. And I have never left a session,

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 2>even bad ones. And I'm not gonna promise this for everyone,

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 2>but I would say ninety percent of the time I

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 2>leave our therapy sessions where I think maybe we're going

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 2>in there to break up, and I feel closer to

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:55.440
<v Speaker 2>him afterwards, and we haven't even resolved things when the

0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 2>time is up, Like we leave kind of tense, but

0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel more connected to him after or we like

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of because you can't not get honest in there,

0:56:03.120 --> 0:56:05.319
<v Speaker 2>or at least I can't not get like she gets

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:05.919
<v Speaker 2>it out of us.

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and yeah, you have to have like a certain

0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 3>sense of awareness about yourself and then like really just

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.240
<v Speaker 3>bring it out. And usually and maybe a great therapist

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:16.480
<v Speaker 3>will do that. They'll bring out like these things that

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 3>whatever happened like in the last week, or something that's

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 3>been bothering you or troubling you, and then now you

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 3>both have this awareness about your certain behaviors.

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like, I brought up something ages ago that

0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought, you know, it's like something he wouldn't even remember,

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:34.880
<v Speaker 2>because it was just something that I was like, this

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 2>is just an example of the things that I can't

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 2>be with someone who talks like this or says that

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. Right, And then there was like that

0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:42.760
<v Speaker 2>was maybe a year and a half ago, and something

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 2>came up like the same thing happened recently, and I

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.160
<v Speaker 2>got the response that I wanted, and I thought, you know,

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe he's doing it because he remembers being scolded for

0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:53.759
<v Speaker 2>it in there by me, or maybe he's doing it

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 2>because he realized that's something I need, and he's just

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.399
<v Speaker 2>doing it because I want it. I don't give a shit,

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:00.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't care what the the impetus is.

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I got what I wanted in that moment, and whether

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 2>it came from a real place where he was like

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:07.439
<v Speaker 2>I should do this out of the kindness of my heart,

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 2>or like this is what I've been trained to do.

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't care when my dog sits and he's I'll

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:15.920
<v Speaker 2>give him a treat like it's that and not that

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend's my dog or whatever. But it's like I

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 2>will still. I don't mind someone being told or just

0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:24.080
<v Speaker 2>feeling like doing you know that whole thing in the

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Aniston movie The Breakup where she's like, I want

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:28.760
<v Speaker 2>you to want to do the dishes. I don't need

0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 2>him to want to hug me a little bit longer

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.080
<v Speaker 2>in that moment. I just need longer hugs. That's something

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm requesting, and do it and he does it and

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 2>it and I'm so proud of myself for not being like, well,

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 2>you're just doing it because I told you too, Like

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 2>it actually works on me.

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.280
<v Speaker 3>No, it's becomes like a learned behavior that you know

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 3>now he yeah, so when next thing that happens, he

0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 3>knows how to respond.

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 1>It's and it's not easy.

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:53.640
<v Speaker 3>But I also think like as a couple, the greatest

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 3>thing that you have are the things that you've been through,

0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 3>and like, if you guys could, like, you know, if

0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 3>you overcome certain things like that's that's a badge of

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 3>honor for you as a couple.

0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, we almost broke up recently and it was

0:58:05.760 --> 0:58:07.959
<v Speaker 2>like I thought it was, it was maybe one word

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 2>away from being broken up.

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Like at one point, man, this ste Briss is really good. Hey,

0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 3>you say, keeps you guys together?

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's well, No, this was we were at dinner.

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 2>This is another thing I recommend if you guys are

0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:20.800
<v Speaker 2>scared out there to go to couples therapy and you

0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 2>need to get you guys both need to get some

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 2>stuff out and you need to talk about real shit. Yeah,

0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 2>go and you're reasonable people. Go to a restaurant that's

0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 2>closing in an hour and a half before you bring

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 2>up this fight. It'll give you. You have to behave yourselves.

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 2>You can't raise your voice if you're you know you're not.

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Don't drink and you kind of go to the Olive

0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 2>garden and just wait and then buy clothes. It's kind

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 2>of like the timer for the therapist and you have

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to leave, but it lets you get things out and

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:48.520
<v Speaker 2>say things and you're in public so it can't get crazy.

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 2>And I really recommend that. So we were at dinner

0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and it was like getting pretty bad, and at one

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:56.760
<v Speaker 2>point we're both like, can't eat. Actually I'm eating just fine,

0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:58.680
<v Speaker 2>but I'm pretending like I can't get so upset even

0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:01.400
<v Speaker 2>though I'm like still, but he's like lost his appetite

0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:03.440
<v Speaker 2>because we're about to break up and I'm still like

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 2>chewing as I'm crying, and but the waitress comes up

0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:09.200
<v Speaker 2>or no, he just goes the way I guess. The

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:10.440
<v Speaker 2>wait just kind of walked by and he goes, are

0:59:10.480 --> 0:59:13.920
<v Speaker 2>you finished? And I'm like with the relationship, And it

0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 2>was at that point where it was like weird and

0:59:15.760 --> 0:59:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I go, I I don't know about I don't know

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 2>about either, and and it was it was, but it

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:22.880
<v Speaker 2>was it was that close like if I would have

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 2>said yes, it would have been done and it would

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.840
<v Speaker 2>have been over. But instead we kind of got kicked

0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:29.400
<v Speaker 2>out because the restaurant was closing and we had to

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 2>go to this concert right afterwards and meet his friends

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.520
<v Speaker 2>and family, and I were walking in there like raw

0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 2>as fuck, just you know, just peeled ourselves apart, just

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 2>got almost or on the precipice of breaking up. But

0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, because we had just gotten super honest,

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:45.000
<v Speaker 2>and I had said some things that I had been harboring,

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and he said some things that he had been harboring.

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 2>And we both said things that were really hyperbolic and

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of crazy, which I liked because he's usually so measured,

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:53.560
<v Speaker 2>and he said a couple of things that I was like, Oh,

0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:55.760
<v Speaker 2>that's a fucking crazy thing, and I like, they are

0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:58.520
<v Speaker 2>playing my game. I just felt closer to him. I

0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know why. I felt like we didn't even need to.

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<v Speaker 2>We resolved it later, but there was something about getting

1:00:04.280 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 2>so stripped down and being so honest, which is something

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<v Speaker 2>we always close out these things and go, hey, we

1:00:09.560 --> 1:00:12.600
<v Speaker 2>just need to be more honest when things cut out there, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>but isn't that so hard? Gary? Final thought? Isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>so hard in a relationship though? To bring up the

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<v Speaker 2>thing when it bugs you in the moment completely? Like

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do to do it?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean some I mean first initially I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to say this, and then I wind up

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<v Speaker 3>saying the thing that bugs me and then cut it

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<v Speaker 3>could cause a fight. I'm trying to think of like

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<v Speaker 3>a good example of what that is, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be anything. It could you know, it could

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<v Speaker 3>be the fact that, like, you know, I'll make a

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<v Speaker 3>little noise while I'm sleeping, my wife just hits me

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<v Speaker 3>and wakes me up, and I'm just like, why do

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<v Speaker 3>you fucking do that? Yeah, yeah, you know, but but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it could just be something and then it

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<v Speaker 3>just spirals. But like usually it's always like something more

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<v Speaker 3>that that you're like you're trying to dive deep into

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<v Speaker 3>like whatever that issue is, and then you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to talk it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's just that that initial when something is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just let it slide, and then they just pile

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<v Speaker 2>up and you eventually explode. But that is interesting that

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<v Speaker 2>you went the other way, you know, like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I've dealt with that in relationships before where and

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<v Speaker 2>my parents were fighters too, like screamers and yellers, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would say stop fighting, and my parents would always say,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not fighting, we're having a discussion. My first joke

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, when we have a book discussion in

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<v Speaker 2>my fourth grade class, missus Reid doesn't throw a chair,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I remember making that kind of joke because

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<v Speaker 2>they would always say, like, we're having a discussion. So Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I also before we go, I wanted to read some

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<v Speaker 2>of these things to you that I found on Reddit

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<v Speaker 2>last night. It kind of fits exactly with the just

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of being a con person I'm obsessed with.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the there's this book called The Influence of Psychology

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that where it just teaches you how

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<v Speaker 2>to manipulate people very casually by doing and saying things.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't really utilize the things in it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like Dale Carnegie. It's just about mental manipulation,

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<v Speaker 2>which is something we as comedians do with our act.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we have the ability now to like queue a

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<v Speaker 2>laughter if we want to, Like, you know, if we

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<v Speaker 2>laugh at our own jokes, we know it makes the

1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:13.360
<v Speaker 2>audience laugh harder if we sprinkle it with fuck. We

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<v Speaker 2>might not even do these things consciously, but subconsciously we

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<v Speaker 2>all are tricking people. Yeah, It's it's rare that you're

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<v Speaker 2>just getting by on the comedy, which is always our goal.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, this said on ask credit, what's the best

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<v Speaker 2>psychology trick? You know? And uh, I thought that some

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<v Speaker 2>of these were pretty interesting. I want to ask your

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<v Speaker 2>opinion about it. Okay, so this is from a parent

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<v Speaker 2>asking your kid if he wants three big broccoli or

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<v Speaker 2>six little ones, same portion size. Do you do stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that with your kids?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh No, but I heard that's the best thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Is like you give options and then you know and

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<v Speaker 3>then you you're getting you're getting what you want out

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's that is what a lot of people said. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>someone said, well this is one that you can use

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself. Just promise to do three minutes of that

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you were putting off. Usually once you start

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<v Speaker 2>keep going, keeping going as easy. Are you someone who

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<v Speaker 2>procrasts Nate's wildly? Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well, you know I do procrastinate.

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<v Speaker 3>And then one of the things I try and do

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<v Speaker 3>and it comes from a Seinfeld where Jerry goes. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about like future Jerry, so like you do

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<v Speaker 3>the thing now. So if I do the thing now,

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm taking in future Gary's like you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>basically person as a personal Yeah, I got to think

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<v Speaker 3>about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Divorce from yourself and make yourself someone I that is

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<v Speaker 2>such a genius thing because I was just thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>I was literally just writing this to my friends talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how I've been depressed lately, and I go the

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<v Speaker 2>only reason I ever do anything is because someone is

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<v Speaker 2>expecting it of me. Like I rarely do something because

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<v Speaker 2>I want it for myself. It's because someone else wants

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<v Speaker 2>it for me. I said, if there was a way

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<v Speaker 2>to make myself someone else right, I would be able

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<v Speaker 2>to get so much more done. And it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>psychologically that's what you've done with the future, Gary, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary, Yeah, and I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's tough because like you always have, like I'll

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<v Speaker 3>make a to do list and there's things that I

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<v Speaker 3>can't get to and or like I'll just be like

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<v Speaker 3>I could do this to now, so but you have

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<v Speaker 3>to because you'll be driving yourself insane.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always just too much. There's always something to do.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always something to do, and and yeah, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>really just gotta do nothing. And I have. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much discomfort in doing nothing for me because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I get depressed, it's usually because I'm not working

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<v Speaker 2>hard enough. And people go, well, when you're Depressednik, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to relax and you're sick and you got to

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. And I'm like, then that's just feeds

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<v Speaker 2>it more because if I take a break, because I'm well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm usually working too much. Burnout leads to depression. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but my depression is also rooted in feeling like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not accomplishing things and then so I can't rest because

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<v Speaker 2>then it'll come on even more. And so it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like this snake eating itself.

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<v Speaker 3>And oh yeah, fear of missing out, like oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>you're sure you're doing like your podcast, but then you

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you're so exhausted, like I want to get on

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<v Speaker 3>stage tonight, but like I am so tired.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's why I moved to Saint Louis, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>no stage time here and I don't because otherwise I

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<v Speaker 2>would be out doing it. It's when there's you could

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<v Speaker 2>be gary. If you're not out there, someone's doing that

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<v Speaker 2>spot that you would be doing. They're getting better because

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<v Speaker 2>we both know that the only way you get better

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<v Speaker 2>at stand up is doing it. Yeah, there's no like

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<v Speaker 2>performing writing for and performing for your family or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>We're citing it in the mirror. Okay, there's uh. It

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<v Speaker 2>says if someone is angry with me or yelling or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I will calmly say I think I understand, but could

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<v Speaker 2>you rephrase the problem differently to help me understand better.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good tip in a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten times they stop dead in their tracks, regroup and

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<v Speaker 2>rephrase calmly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean with a

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<v Speaker 1>sane person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, that's true. I mean this is a customer service.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like yes, like your wife in the kitchen. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the one that, oh, this is this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was pretty good for just us in general

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone. It's this guy said. My dad used this

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<v Speaker 2>phrase a lot while I was growing up. Make it

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<v Speaker 2>easy for them to give you what you want when asked.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is Dale Carnegie too, Like, incentivize people to

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<v Speaker 2>give you things that you want. Don't just be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>can I come on your podcast? You gotta be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a podcast that is uh incredible right now

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<v Speaker 2>and it's blowing up, and here's the premise. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think we could have a really interesting discussion around like

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<v Speaker 2>show like show value when you pitch yourself to things

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm just thinking about when I used to have

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<v Speaker 2>to like write people for stage time when I first

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<v Speaker 2>speak to New York, and I'm like, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would bring something very fresh and funny to I would

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<v Speaker 2>always have to. I would Dale Carnegie and go like,

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<v Speaker 2>what can I offer you, and like, and I will

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<v Speaker 2>be there on time. Make it easy for them. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be there on time, I'll promote it, I'll do like

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<v Speaker 2>give them. I like this advice of just make things

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<v Speaker 2>easy for people to give you what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good one. It's probably one that

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<v Speaker 2>your dad used as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well, you know, my one of my things,

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<v Speaker 3>one of my things. Yeah, I mean, yeah, my dad

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<v Speaker 3>was great at it. But yeah, there's always a benefit

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<v Speaker 3>to the person that was involved in one of his scams. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they think that they're going to be getting,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a deal of something, a high commission, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's how a lot of scams work, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the Ponzi schemes. You think that you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be getting you know, twenty yeah, twenty percent

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<v Speaker 3>return on your money where you're like, oh, okay, this

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<v Speaker 3>sounds good, but then yeah, but then you're gonna get screwed.

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<v Speaker 2>And your dad would collect people. Your dad always remembered

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<v Speaker 2>a name or not. Maybe he didn't remember it, but

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<v Speaker 2>you said he always got people's cards. Was always extra edge.

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<v Speaker 3>Cards, take shit, to take pictures of people, so became

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<v Speaker 3>a very familiar face with wherever whatever he was doing,

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<v Speaker 3>very loud, like you know, like, oh this man, funny,

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<v Speaker 3>jovial guy, and like, you know, yeah, exactly, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't seem like nobody could see, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that there was something wrong, you know, because it's it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like he's just a straight shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you bring his kid along too, so it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're cute as hell and just and why would

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<v Speaker 2>a why would he involve a kid in a scam?

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<v Speaker 2>Like a kid is a kid? Just complete, it's a genius. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>your dad is obviously smart. You're obviously smart. You're so hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Go see Gary on the road. I'm guessing Gary Veter

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<v Speaker 2>dot com, yep vi I D e R dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>follow him on socials, and definitely you have to check

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<v Speaker 2>out this podcast. I'm so into it right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so refreshing to have a new serial type podcast to follow,

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<v Speaker 2>and because I've been wanting one in my life and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you came on the show because I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna listen to it anyway, but it was just

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<v Speaker 2>so good to ask you questions, and I'll probably be

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<v Speaker 2>asking you more as the season goes on, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>still early enough. Everyone get on board now because you'll

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<v Speaker 2>you'll the episodes are a half hour, so you can

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<v Speaker 2>get through three really quickly and then stay tuned for four,

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<v Speaker 2>which is coming up on Monday, where we find out more.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just can't wait to uncover this whole story.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for being so vulnerable and doing it and

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<v Speaker 2>all the hard work that would into it. It's such

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a cool thing that you've done, and it's yeah, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>So appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Proud of you and I just think it's awesome. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much, Gary, thank you, Thanks Nick. You all right, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the show. We will see you next week. Brian

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<v Speaker 2>will be back from his goldbladder surgery. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in DC this weekend and also at Foxwood's Casino.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sold out on Friday night, but or on Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>night Foxwoods. But if you're in the Connecticut area, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot of places, Foxwoods on Sunday night not

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<v Speaker 2>sold out yet, still tickets available, come on out to

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<v Speaker 2>that show. I would love the besties to be there

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<v Speaker 2>and how great was Gary? That was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back next week. Don't beca see you guys fighting.

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<v Speaker 3>M