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Speaker 1: The Nikki Gliser podcastsers.

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Speaker 2: Here I am, I mean Key Laser. Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Nikkei Glazer Podcast. I am here today in my studio apartment,

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Speaker 2: my studio, in my apartment, my studio, in my three

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Speaker 2: bedroom apartment, which one of the bedrooms is a studio,

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Speaker 2: so my two but it doesn't matter. I'm thinking about

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Speaker 2: getting a house soon. I'm just kind of bursting at

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Speaker 2: the seams with stuff that's beside the point. Actually it's not,

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Speaker 2: because this is all you're getting today, just for now

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Speaker 2: at least. Brian Frangie is no longer with us, not permanently,

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Speaker 2: but he's just I didn't mean to scare you guys

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Speaker 2: like that. He is recovering from gallbladder surgery, so he

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Speaker 2: had that on Monday. I'm recording this on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: I've checked in with him. He's doing well, he is.

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Speaker 2: He said it was not as bad as the other

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Speaker 2: surgeries he's had in his life. What did he say?

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Speaker 2: I think he'd be fine with me reading you this.

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Speaker 2: I had laparoscopic ball surgery in my twenties and it

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Speaker 2: was much worse. And he said the pain of the

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Speaker 2: tooth extractions were worse. He said sleeping is okay. Not

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Speaker 2: bad teeth, He's his teeth pretty much are the same.

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Speaker 2: He feels much better overall. He said, it feels like

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Speaker 2: he was being poisoned, and his deterioration happened so gradually

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Speaker 2: After the surgery, I feel much better overall. That's so

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Speaker 2: great when you remove something from your life, whether it

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Speaker 2: be a husband, or a gallbladder or a I don't

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Speaker 2: know what else. I'm trying to think of something that

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Speaker 2: I've removed from my life, and then suddenly it was

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Speaker 2: just so much more comfortable. Uh, jeanes that don't fit,

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Speaker 2: just getting clothes that fit, and then you're like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, I don't realize how fucking in pain I

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Speaker 2: was all the time. I think, I really, I've always

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Speaker 2: said it on this podcast. I really resonate. I hate

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Speaker 2: when people say they resonate with something. I think something

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Speaker 2: is supposed to resonate with you, but people always say

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Speaker 2: I don't like when people say I resonate. Can you resonate?

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Speaker 2: I think you can. I googled it and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I found out that those people were right, even though

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Speaker 2: they sound wrong to me, but I'm still not I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to say it anyway. I do resonate with

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Speaker 2: uh people having chronic pain because I've had like my

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Speaker 2: rants before, or I don't resonate with them. I have

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Speaker 2: so much empathy because I don't know what it's like

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Speaker 2: to have like long term chronic pain. But I just

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Speaker 2: whenever someone has a headache, I like can't handle it.

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Speaker 2: If someone has a headache in my presence and you

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Speaker 2: work for me, I want you to stay home and

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Speaker 2: like I just don't want to be around someone with

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Speaker 2: in pain. Because I'm just such a good person, can't

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Speaker 2: you tell No? It's just like that's that's my thing.

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Speaker 2: It's not even the nice thing because then they're like,

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Speaker 2: don't take on my pain. I'm not asking you to

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Speaker 2: do that, but I just can't help it. I don't

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Speaker 2: like people being uncomfortable. It's one of my I think

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Speaker 2: In fact, I was at my boyfriend's brothers and his

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Speaker 2: eye contact with a zvia that was in their refrigerator

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I think they have ZVA, Like

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Speaker 2: so much ZV I'm like, am I just like seeing

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you're like treating your body like a

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Speaker 2: Colbert and all the things. He's just a fucking great

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Speaker 2: And it's a podcast and he hasn't talked to his

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to reconnect with him today. Other things,

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Speaker 2: That makes two of the us because now I don't

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Speaker 2: at I'll be sad, my mescara will be running. I'll

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Speaker 2: up so my skin doesn't get pulled down anymore than

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Speaker 2: it already is. Oh god, you know I am just

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Speaker 2: a product of my Instagram algorithm. I gotta get off

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Speaker 2: about the face massages I should do, about the plastic

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Speaker 2: Oh hey, Gary's here, we'll welcome you with Now what's up, Gary?

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Speaker 2: I was just talking about Instagram and how I'm addicted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a problem, and especially now because I got

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Speaker 3: like things going on, so I'm like constantly on that.

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Speaker 2: And so you're checking, like how the things are doing,

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Speaker 2: Your numbers are going up, people are dming you like

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Speaker 3: I'm checking it?

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Speaker 2: But I also do love when they kind of nail

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would look cool in those pants. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: do anything, she says. Kind of brain. It's it's such manipulation,

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Speaker 3: there's ten episodes all recorded already, and uh yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: some You're gonna all these ideas you came up with

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Speaker 3: thank god, yes, you completely get it. So basically, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You do because that's the content, man, Like, you got

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Speaker 2: and when you pitch these things, you were like, they're

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Speaker 2: You're like, there's just something about pitching an episode where

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Speaker 2: podcast to like binge on a road trip if you

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Speaker 2: even heard of this in the comedy community? Like this

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00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,679
Speaker 2: was first brought up to me by a comic that

432
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,919
Speaker 2: was like, I don't really gossip because I was like

433
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,640
Speaker 2: trying to talk shit about someone that would be fun

434
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 2: to just write off on, and he goes, I don't really.

435
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 2: I don't like to talk about people that I wouldn't

436
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,159
Speaker 2: like say these things to their face, and I was like,

437
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Speaker 2: what is what are you?

438
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 3: Like?

439
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 2: It was, but I then I explored it more and

440
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, this in my research, this is the

441
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 2: pathway to being the most happy person.

442
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

443
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Speaker 3: I mean you give off so this energy when like

444
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 3: you're talking about somebody, and it's like that energy could

445
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 3: just be used in such a different way and so

446
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 3: much more positive to your own stuff. It's instinct. But

447
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 3: I was like, that's how I grew up. Like I

448
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 3: grew up with like we're always talking, We're always talking shit.

449
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 3: Your friends are always talking shit. So it's like then

450
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 3: when you get to like comedy and it's like, you know,

451
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 3: there's a competitive thing going on.

452
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Speaker 1: You're always talking.

453
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Speaker 2: Shit always and it's only about some who's doing better

454
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 2: than you. It's like rare. It's it's it's rare that

455
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 2: you're like almost punching down in comedy. I feel like

456
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 2: it's generally when someone is like having a moment, that's

457
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 2: what everyone gets real chatty about them. It's just it's

458
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 2: so transparent to me. That's why I like to shit

459
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 2: on people when they're down, to really make it seem

460
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Speaker 2: like I really didn't like them all the time.

461
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Speaker 3: Well, it's like you're not reading you're not reading your comments.

462
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 3: But like some people would just like you know, comment

463
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: on like a special and be like that's not funny.

464
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 3: Where it's like, hey, like you could. You're definitely entitled

465
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Speaker 3: to your opinion. One you also don't have.

466
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Speaker 1: To write it.

467
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Speaker 3: But it's like you see people laughing at you know,

468
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 3: our specials, like, clearly it is funny, you know there

469
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Speaker 3: They might not, you might not find it, but a

470
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 3: majority does see it as funny.

471
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, I hate to say that anyone

472
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 2: who comments something negative is jealous, but they are, and

473
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 2: they might be right in what they're saying. They might

474
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 2: genuinely think you're not funny, but essentially they're jealous that

475
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 2: you took a chance to do something that kind of

476
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 2: maybe didn't work out and they'll never have the balls

477
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Speaker 2: to do that, and that's what they hate about it.

478
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: So they have to shit on it to then justify

479
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: why they don't do it, because then people would shoot

480
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,239
Speaker 2: on me, like people like me, So that's why they

481
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 2: do it. Okay, Well we have to take a break,

482
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: but I'm going to come back and I have so

483
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: many more questions about your podcast and and we'll just

484
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: talk in general. I haven't caught up with you in

485
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: so long. You're a father now since I last like

486
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 2: ran into you, and so much to talk about with

487
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 2: Gary Veeter, the star and host and producer of Number

488
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: one Dad, which is a new podcast out. You should

489
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Speaker 2: doubled it right now. We'll be right back Gary. You're

490
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Speaker 2: a father now?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: How I mean, how old is your kid? Because I

493
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Speaker 2: feel like the last time I saw you you were

494
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 2: guys were pregnant. Was it was pre pandemic?

495
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, it was just that the start of the pandemic.

496
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Speaker 3: So June twentieth, June twentieth, June June third, twenty twenty

497
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Speaker 3: is when.

498
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Speaker 1: She had the baby.

499
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Speaker 3: Okay, the baby and then so we have one we

500
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Speaker 3: actually have an we had another one since as well.

501
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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

502
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Speaker 1: Really yeah yeah, so we have two two boys.

503
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, and your your son and that's your oldest

504
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: son is Sully Sully.

505
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

506
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Speaker 2: Do you think about the pilot often when you think

507
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: of that name, like, you know, so up for you.

508
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 3: My wife Ali heard grandfather's middle name was Sullivan, and

509
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 3: then we're like, oh, that's like a cool name. And

510
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 3: then you're like, oh, then the Pilot and then you're

511
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 3: like all right, and then the monsters inc and you're

512
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 3: like all right. So she's like part Irish and I

513
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, let's just do it. Let's throw it

514
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 3: in that movie Help with College and.

515
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Speaker 2: Guess what Sully is was a cool guy? That guy

516
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Speaker 2: if she's.

517
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did save those people. So it was like,

518
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Speaker 1: if he crashed, we probably still would have named him Sully.

519
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's just like a cool cultural icon and

520
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: and the rest of his life, your son's life, when

521
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 2: he gets people being like were you named up with

522
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: the Pilot like that, it's only going to be a

523
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: select amount of people, like people that were born. Gen

524
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Speaker 2: Z doesn't know who Sully Sullenberger is. I don't think

525
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Speaker 2: you know, Like it was just a so it'll be

526
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Speaker 2: a I like when something is someone's name and only

527
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Speaker 2: a few people know and they get it throughout their life,

528
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: but it's not constant.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it.

530
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Speaker 3: Like his name is cool, especially like right now he's

531
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Speaker 3: like the only kid in one of his any of

532
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: his class. He's only one class, but like his class

533
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: that has that name, and we haven't like really met

534
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: anybody with that name.

535
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Speaker 1: So I like.

536
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Speaker 2: That that's really good. What's your other kid's name?

537
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Speaker 1: His name's Tyson.

538
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: He's Bladon.

539
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went outside the box for that and.

540
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: This actually where did that come from?

541
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Speaker 3: So we had my wife and we used to have

542
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: a dog walking business together back in yeah, like pre pandemic,

543
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: and our favorite dog was named Tyson. So we were like, oh,

544
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: let's like and we just like like that name so much,

545
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: so we're like, all right, whatever, let's go with that.

546
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Speaker 1: And we wanted another name that like a lot of

547
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Speaker 1: kids don't have. Oh god, So yeah, really cool.

548
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Speaker 2: I love that your kid was named after a dog, like,

549
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 2: you know, like because it's funny. First of all, that's

550
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: a hilarious reason. Yeah, and uh, it's it's sweet because

551
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: it means that animals mean so much to us, like

552
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 2: it was. I just love everything about that and the

553
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: fact that you and your wife obviously knew tons of

554
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: dogs and that dog was super special. What was so

555
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: special about that dog?

556
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Speaker 3: Well, he was a puggle and we wound up getting

557
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: puggles after that too, Like you talk so much.

558
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: So it's just like fine, ad As Tyson are.

559
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: Well, we like are we?

560
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: I mean we love ours but like but at the

561
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: same time, Like he was so cool and he was chill,

562
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: and we would always like watch him and you'd like

563
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Speaker 3: stay over our house.

564
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Speaker 1: So he was awesome.

565
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: And then uh, and then I mean we also like

566
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: the name because like Mike Tyson, you know, like it's cool,

567
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: so it gives you like a toughness and so cool,

568
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 3: and he's like he kind of lives up to like

569
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: you know, it's funny. It's like you do take on

570
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: your name a little bit, like like Gary is the

571
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: worst name. I hate it so much, but it's like

572
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: I have adapted to it now. Yeah, now it's coming

573
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: back your whole life.

574
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: No last year, I think it's like now it's like

575
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: because it was kind of not a cool name, it

576
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: is cool.

577
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Speaker 1: That's weird, right.

578
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Speaker 3: I kind of feel like there are like times that

579
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: are changing with it a little bit so, but like

580
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: I'll definitely never get too cool.

581
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Speaker 1: I know that.

582
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it keeps you humble. You can't you can't ever

583
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 2: get That's so true. What the fuck names do really

584
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: define you? Tyson is such a great one and so

585
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: is solely good job with those. I mean, this whole

586
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 2: podcast is exploring your relationship with your father. Now you're

587
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: a father, and you're like reflecting and comparing the experiences

588
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: and you're having sure your wife with who I love

589
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: your wife on the podcast, she so shows it. She's

590
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: so cool and comfortable. Isn't it so infuriating when the

591
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: people your wife doesn't do comedy first, no living or

592
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 2: anything of course, and she's like so natural, and you're like,

593
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: what the fuck? I try so hard at this?

594
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: I know.

595
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: I think it's like the not trying and it's just like, yeah,

596
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: not caring, and like I feel like like she and

597
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: like other people like when I when I talk to

598
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 3: my sisters, like they don't really know what like a

599
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: podcast is, like, yeah, you're being recorded as you talk,

600
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: but they don't think about it and they just like

601
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Speaker 3: go and they wound up all being good voices. And

602
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: my wife especially like this is the way that she sounds.

603
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all are great because I think you're right,

604
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: because we obviously know from doing stand up for so

605
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: long that the way to be truly great is when

606
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: you break through and you're kind of able to be

607
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: yourself on stage or at least relaxed right and not

608
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: be like I'm performing, And they they have that naturally

609
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: because they don't give a fuck because there's the stakes

610
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: aren't high for them because of the nature of it

611
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: being an audio thing. I mean, I'm sure if your

612
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: wife was on camera it would be a little bit

613
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: you know, totally that could but you can kind of

614
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: forget the records there, and so she's just so natural

615
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: where as you You're also amazing on it, there's no

616
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: question about it. But like I'm just you know, projecting

617
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: that I when I know him being on a podcast,

618
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: even if it's like a conversation in the car, I'm

619
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Speaker 2: kind of on in a way.

620
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we were, like you know, some of our

621
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 3: conversations they do go on in the car. They're going

622
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 3: like we're kind of on like the move while I'm

623
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: doing the podcast, so you know, I'm hitting record, like

624
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Speaker 3: we're on my way to my mom's house to talk

625
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Speaker 3: about my father we haven't spoken about in twenty four years,

626
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 3: and Ali's in the car and then so I'm getting

627
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: like the real time like interaction, and I'm like, I

628
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: want her to say certain things, but I also want

629
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: it to I need to say, like listen. So You're like,

630
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: but it is we're going there to talk to him,

631
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Speaker 3: and you kind of want to.

632
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Speaker 2: Apply wild scene. Okay, So Gary had not talked to

633
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: his mom about his dad, who he's who he was

634
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: stranged from since he was fifteen, hasn't spoken to his

635
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: dad and since then, but hasn't spoken about his dad

636
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: to his mom since then.

637
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: Either, correct? Nothing.

638
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have not even mentioned his name, mentioned

639
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: his names, no, like never like looked at a picture

640
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: and been like, oh, this is a picture of you

641
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: and your dad.

642
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: It's like watching a TV show and there's like a

643
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: dad on it. Do you get do you turn off

644
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 2: like a sex scene, Like I'm.

645
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: Not watching TV with my mom ever?

646
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but if we yes, if we if we were,

647
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: it would just be like not even hard. Yeah, it

648
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 3: would be awkward and not even talked about, Like oh yeah,

649
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: if you see a father playing catch with his son,

650
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: it's like the first thing you're thinking about is that is.

651
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're look over there a bird? Yeah, like

652
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: anything that's not because that is that's so wild to

653
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: me that you But that's I mean, that's like family

654
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: dynamics when there's a lot of shit going on. Is

655
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 2: do we get into what went went on out? Like

656
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: I know your dad was a con man and lied

657
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: for a living literally and could not not lie and

658
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: just seems to have had that kind of personality disorder. Yeah,

659
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: that he was not struggling with because he's probably also

660
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: a narcissist, so they don't struggle with it. But it's

661
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: also something that's made him a strange from his family

662
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: and kind of is a fucked up thing to have.

663
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: Even though he'll probably never understand that was there, there's

664
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: other things at play though that led to you never

665
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: talking to him again. Correct.

666
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, so we do get into those and it's like,

667
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: you know, in the beginning, it was very much like

668
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: an attack. It seemed like my mom and that were

669
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: like physical but like verbal that they would get into

670
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: and things were like so bad. It's like the house

671
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: you're growing up, you know, up in, and you're you're

672
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: just witnessing, like these two people go at it and

673
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, parents fight, but the way that

674
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: they would argue was like they would It became a

675
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: thing where the kids are getting involved, and then eventually

676
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: like we're involved in a sense where my father started

677
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: doing stuff to manipulate the situation with my mom and

678
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: the divorce, so like he could get an upper hand

679
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: and he would take things out on us in like

680
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: certain ways, which I'll get into.

681
00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

682
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's not good stuff where you're like,

683
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: if you're a dad who like loves his kids, you know,

684
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: part of being a dad is being selfless. It's like

685
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: you know, you put your kids in, you know, before yourself,

686
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: and he didn't seem like that was you know what

687
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: he had, Like those were never his intentions and he

688
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: really you know pushed us away and eventually not only me,

689
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: but my sisters and of course my mom.

690
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: You know, just cut them off.

691
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: God, that's so fucking rough because it does sound like

692
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: he I mean, have you diagnosed him within this?

693
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: You know?

694
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: So it's it's hard because like there's a lot of

695
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: stuff like I couldn't like get into just because of

696
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: like legal stuff. So it's like you know, yeah, like

697
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: you know, so you could say like yeah, you know,

698
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: I could be like, oh yeah, he's a sociopath or

699
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: you know he's you know, narcissists and things like that,

700
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: and like he is. I mean, like that's you know,

701
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: it really goes without like you don't need like uh,

702
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: you know, some like somebody with like a degree to

703
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: like tell you that, like I could you know, you

704
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: just see it. It's like everything he did he love lying,

705
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: he loved to scam, and that's kind of just how

706
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: he lived his life. And he you know, his goal

707
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: was it seemed like maybe it was to like benefit

708
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: the family with his lives, but if we got hurt

709
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: in the process, like you know, it didn't mean anything

710
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: to him.

711
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: It just it just came with the territory.

712
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, the things he did to benefit the

713
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: family could look like it was benefiting the family, but

714
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: ultimately just him because benefiting the family was probably benefiting him.

715
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Like these people just operate just like me, me, me,

716
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: and nothing else matters.

717
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: And we're around that a lot. Yeah, we're around that

718
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: a lot.

719
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: Obviously in comedy, like I'm part of being a comedian,

720
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: you have to be very selfish. I mean, like you

721
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 3: are going to be putting your family to the side

722
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 3: because like, hey, to do this, you have to you

723
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: have to figure out ways to where you could do it,

724
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: and you're going to miss out on different events and

725
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: things like that. And I think like with my dad

726
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: being a con man, it was kind of like the

727
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: same thing. But when you have a family, you do

728
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: have to make that take like you know, priority.

729
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: God, that is That's the reason I just don't want

730
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: kids is because I just think i'll sent them from

731
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: for making me do things for them that I want

732
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: to do for myself, or I just feel bad because

733
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: I'll be selfish and I won't do the thing that

734
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: they would be better for them because I just want

735
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: it my way. And it's it's just like a thing

736
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: I know about myself that I just don't. I don't

737
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: I won't enjoy naps as much if I know there's

738
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: like a little kid that would want to be playing

739
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: with me, and so I'll take the nap and neglect

740
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: the kid, but I won't even enjoy the nap.

741
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

742
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the things I'm thinking about.

743
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: Like, and that's totally good. That's good that you think

744
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: about that, because there are people that then go through

745
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: with it and then then they have this like bad feeling.

746
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: So you know, it really depends what you want and

747
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: maybe that changes, but like, but yeah, it's totally understandable.

748
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: It's like, you don't you do you don't want to

749
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: put somebody in a position where it's like, oh, now

750
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: maybe they don't like you because you're not spending time.

751
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: But it's like you're but yes, when you become a parent,

752
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: you have a responsibility, and it's like that's got to

753
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: be what you know takes the forefront.

754
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy, and you say, you even say, I love

755
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: how you say that. Your dad always said to you

756
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: you'll understand when you get older, and you're like, I'm

757
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: older and I don't get it because now you're a father,

758
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: and the idea of doing the things that your dad

759
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: did for sure to you And the fact that I

760
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: forget where I saw this club maybe was on we

761
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: might be drunk or something where and you'll probably cover

762
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: it in the show. But your dad wouldn't even introduce

763
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: He wasn't even your dad. He would be a photographer

764
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: and you would be a sports illustrated reporter that were

765
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: just together.

766
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: Why would you guys be like so yeah, so I mean,

767
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: like the biggest con that we did dah, yeah exactly.

768
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: Because it's a chaperone anyway for sure.

769
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: Agent yeah, oh exactly. It made no sense. My dad,

770
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: he just levet the lie. So yeah, the biggest con

771
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: we had was going to Madison Square Garden as a

772
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: sports illociat for kids, reported me and then he would

773
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: go as my photographer, but he wouldn't say that he

774
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: was my dad.

775
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: He was your photography.

776
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: God. Yeah, and then but.

777
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: So he would do this and it's like why he

778
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: would he would present himself as a photographer of a

779
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: different last name to me, who was just this random

780
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: kid this I guess like genius reporter that's like nine

781
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: ten years old that could.

782
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: Just feel what though you don't even have to be

783
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: good when you're like being touted as this like kids

784
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: order Like I was kind of thinking, like what if

785
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: Gary wasn't good at it? And it's like it doesn't matter.

786
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: The kids are always not good, Like everyone just gives

787
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: them the benefit of the doubt. Would you get nervous

788
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: about interviewing these people? Was this something you wanted or

789
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: was your dad kind of like, no, you're going to

790
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: do this?

791
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: And then I wanted it. I wanted it because I

792
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: wanted to go to the games. I wanted to see

793
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: the I wanted to see for myself. It was never

794
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: a thing where we were like getting caught because I

795
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: was with my dad. He just kind of seemed invincible,

796
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: So I was along for the ride. But I would

797
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: get nervous. But it's like one of those things where

798
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: it kind of taught me early on to like be

799
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: around people that are like higher up where you're like, oh,

800
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: I felt what it was like to be nervous in

801
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: front of them, and I was like, all right, well,

802
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: in the future, when I am around people who are

803
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: like famous or you know, high up, I don't have

804
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: to be nervous. So it kind of like gave me

805
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: that edge in a way. Oh but so that's like

806
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: I guess perhaps to my dad in that sense, but

807
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: like putting me in these.

808
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: Situations used to it, or because I saw like like

809
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: they're that impressive or like they're kind of just humans.

810
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: You got, Yeah, you got what you got used to it,

811
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: so you know it's like bombing on stage, It's like,

812
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: all right, that's what that feels like. So it's like, oh,

813
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: this is what it feels like to be nervous in

814
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: front of Michael Jordan, that's like the biggest person you

815
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 3: could meet ever.

816
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you asked him what his favorite food was.

817
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm just a good question.

818
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: I think, cute question, Like no one was asking him that.

819
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: Listen to the podcast to find out what Michael Jordan said.

820
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's a good point. I get. Really,

821
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: I think I'm so cool most of the time and

822
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: have a lot of control over my nervous system for

823
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 2: the most part, until I get to meet someone that

824
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm really like is so famous, and I kind of

825
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: I start shaking something you met with no yes, but

826
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 2: before I was like a huge fan. But I met

827
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: her boyfriend Travis Kelcey, and I found that my teeth

828
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: were chattering, like literally, like it was so embarrassing and

829
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: it and I was filming a thing with him and

830
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: on camera I was fine, and then having like him

831
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: just being like where are oh, where are you from

832
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: in Ohio? I couldn't remember the city I was from,

833
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: and my teeth were chattering because of just his you know,

834
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: he's a big deal for sure, but his proximity to

835
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: her rendered me almost like I was having a stroke,

836
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: Like I was felt trapped in my body and like

837
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: abandoned by my body, and in a way that I

838
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to do this anymore, like

839
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: this isn't this isn't a good look. I don't like

840
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: to feel out of control. So have you met famous

841
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: people now, and you like, what's what's your tip for

842
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: I guess just doing you just said, just do it

843
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: a bunch.

844
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah I get I know, yeah, do it a bunch,

845
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess just like try and act normal.

846
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 3: And I mean, here's the thing. When I was when

847
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 3: you're a kid, it's like there's so much more warm

848
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: to you. So it's like as you know, as an adult,

849
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: unless you know, they know what you do, and then

850
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: it's like, oh hey, what's going on. So it's just

851
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: try and just be as normal as you did.

852
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: America's Got Talent. Yeah, we're the judges, and you went

853
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: pretty far right.

854
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, finals went to the finals and then Howard Stern,

855
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: Howie Mandel, Heidi Klum and Melbay and then Nick Cannon

856
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 3: was like the major d or whatever.

857
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, was he cool to you?

858
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: He was cool? He was really cool.

859
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really cool. I like him a lot. I

860
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: just did the thing on the Mass Singer and I

861
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: was just impressed at how nice he was.

862
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very professional, like yeah, crazy, there's there's no

863
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: one not an easy job. Like you know when he

864
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: when he was on America's Got Talent, Like I was

865
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 3: just like watching like all the stuff that they made him,

866
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: you know, go through and like just like you know,

867
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: reading a telepromter's not the easiest thing, and like you

868
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: know he's nailing it, like yeah, and I'm just that's

869
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 3: the stuff where you're like, oh, that's super impressive.

870
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: When you did that show? Did they was it just

871
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: they call like your you heard from your agent? So

872
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: there was auditions and they're like send a tape or

873
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: did someone come to a show?

874
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: What was so somebody, I guess some like producer got

875
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: like my cone in set and they're like, oh, you

876
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: could come down and like do an audition, and they

877
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: put me right in front of like the actual judges

878
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: on like the first thing. So yeah, so I got lucky.

879
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: I got like bypassed of like any like actual like

880
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: senten tape yea. And then from there then I was

881
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: just able to like advance, but like I had no

882
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: idea like the situation and it they really put I

883
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: mean you did I mean last comic and I don't

884
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 3: know if it was the same thing where they had

885
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: us waiting in like this room for like hours and

886
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: then finally you would go and do your audition and

887
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: like you're like drained.

888
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Because it's like you're geat with comics at mine.

889
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: You were so much better Paris.

890
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exact, and I'm like, oh this par

891
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: you know, he'll go on before me and then Fanned.

892
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: And yeah ventral Quiss. Yeah, it's what a wild thing.

893
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: So you would be there for hours and then by

894
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: the time you go up.

895
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: You're hoping that that Yeah, and I remember that audition

896
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: that I did was like the crowd was like two

897
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: pm at the New Jersey Performing Arts Center in Newark,

898
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: and You're like, oh, this is a great comedy audience.

899
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: But luckily it's like I think you only had to

900
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: do like sixty seconds the first time, so I'm like,

901
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: so hopefully this is like, you know, good, and and

902
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: then it did go great and so uh yeah, I

903
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: was able to advance.

904
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's was that. Uh did that was that a

905
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: big career moment for you? Like did you feel like

906
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: things picked up?

907
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

908
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: Things got where it's like got an agent out of

909
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: it and then the manager and then yeah, so.

910
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 2: You recognize from it.

911
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: Sometimes where it's like, you know, now they've had so

912
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: many seasons where it all blends in.

913
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: I mean, but it wasn't that long. When were you

914
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: on I say twenty yeah, okay, but I that is

915
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: I guess that is long enough that people could like forget,

916
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: but people can watch you. Like I had a pop

917
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: after the Tom Brady Rose because my face was everywhere

918
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: for like two days. It was really insane, and so

919
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: I was getting recognized all the time, and it was like, oh,

920
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: this is just a new part of my life. It

921
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: fucking falls off.

922
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: So it does, oh completely, well.

923
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Aren't seeing your face regularly when they look at you

924
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: at Starbucks, They're just they don't put it together. It

925
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: might have a flicker of a thing, but it's I was,

926
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: you know, both like a little bit disheartened and also

927
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: so happy to go back to the way it was

928
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: almost instantly, but also to realize, like, okay, I could

929
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: I can't even have a bigger pop than that, Like

930
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: this might be as big as it gets, and like

931
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 2: that's good and it's nice to know what it feels

932
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 2: like to have that other thing. But it's it kind

933
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: of just reminded me of just there's just too much

934
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: stuff and our retention spans so much long enough, and

935
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: it's just a different world we're operating in and I

936
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: don't even know sometimes like what the point of it

937
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: all is. I question that of like do you feel

938
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: a new sense of like artistic accomplishment though, and doing

939
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: this kind of like docu series podcast. I mean, yeah,

940
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: so outside of what we do.

941
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 3: I so yeah, So I think like in that sense

942
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: because it's different than like, you know, we're in this

943
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: comedy world where it's like, all right, we're going to

944
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: do stand up and here's a special and then that's cool.

945
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: But like this is just some shows, like another creative side.

946
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 3: So I was like cool to like to me, that's

947
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: cool to like just show that.

948
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, this is fun to do.

949
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: And I really I'm happy with like how so far,

950
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: like with how it's going, and yeah, I hope like

951
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: people are excited, like as each episode, you know, I've

952
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: just gone.

953
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: Pumped for the rest. Like I zip through them today,

954
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: all the first three this morning, and I thought there

955
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 2: was just three because it didn't say like of three

956
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: of ten. So I was like, oh, this is okay.

957
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: I guess we're only finishing this in three twenty four

958
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: minute episodes. Okay, well good, And then I'm like, he

959
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: hasn't met his dad yet, but the fuck. So I'm

960
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: so excited to hear there were more, and I'm so

961
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: excited to listen to the rest of it again. It's

962
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: called Number one Dad. It's on wherever you get your podcasts.

963
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: iHeart Radio and Big Money Players back with more after

964
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: this with Gary Peter. Gary. Are you on the road

965
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: right now too?

966
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

967
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: So I have a bunch of bunch of dates coming well,

968
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: definitely coming out, but right now I'm doing like so

969
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: much promo. But in July and August I have like

970
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 3: some dates and like Albany and Connecticut or landing.

971
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 2: So many podcasts right now. Oh yeah, it's what number

972
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 2: is this for you today?

973
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: Actually tell you this is my first one, so good

974
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: to give you more after this, I have to do

975
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: one like a like a it's like a dad's podcast.

976
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 1: I forget what it's exactly.

977
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry to put you on

978
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: the spot. I don't know the name of any up

979
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: here on and then I or like the host names

980
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm trying to look on zoom and be like, oh,

981
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: I shouldn't. I should have researched this before. When you

982
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: going through press, it's like one after the other and uh,

983
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty insane, but it's this podcast is going

984
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: to I mean my boyfriend even I told him you

985
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: were gonna be on the show, and he didn't know

986
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: your name from the show, but then I described your story,

987
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, I saw that ad too. So

988
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: it's getting goods and everyone's algorithm.

989
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: It's amazing with the pants. I mean, this is so.

990
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: I mean, like you asked me about like as far

991
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: as like from a creative standpoint, I'm like, I like,

992
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: I'm like happy with it, like it's doing. I'm surprised

993
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: that people like it for read like they like it

994
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: for different reasons.

995
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: They like it.

996
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: You know, if you come from a good family, you

997
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: might like it just because you're seeing what a band

998
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: family is what we talked about, or if like some

999
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, I haven't talked to my sister

1000
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: in ten years, like and now hearing like you go

1001
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 3: through that, you know, it really like wants me to

1002
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 3: like reach out to her.

1003
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: Think so it's like talk to misters and how long

1004
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: it was six years for me? Yes?

1005
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: Whoa, So she hadn't seen the birth of your son

1006
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: and you had kind of missed down on her kids' lives. Yes,

1007
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 2: as well, And she said that she it was really sweet.

1008
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 2: She you call her you tell her you're doing the podcast.

1009
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: Was there a part of you that was gonna be like, oh,

1010
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: so now you're reaching out because you have a podcast,

1011
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: like that's the only.

1012
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, yeah, So yeah, she was on board with it.

1013
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: So I gave her heads up like that it was

1014
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: a podcast, and like, you know, through text we were

1015
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: like kind of like settling stuff and then I was

1016
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: able to get her to like to record. But yeah,

1017
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: you know, it's part of like having a dad that

1018
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 3: it you know, was this person you're just going through

1019
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: with it? Hopefully you know there's I mean, there's gonna

1020
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: be some damage, but hopefully that these people that you

1021
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: know that you cut off in your life, that they

1022
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: they you know, want to talk about it and want

1023
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: to be a part of it.

1024
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean this idea of cutting someone off and like,

1025
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: did you think with your sister you'd never speak to

1026
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: her again when you decided to do that, or was

1027
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: this like, oh, we'll just take up I just need

1028
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: to make a stance here. Was that really like something

1029
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: until this podcast? Kind of Yeah for you? Did you

1030
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: think it was probably like never again?

1031
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was going to be never again,

1032
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: but it was kind of like you said, like like

1033
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: just a stance where I know I as far as

1034
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, she talked to my dad again. That's the

1035
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: whole reason why we cut why I cut her off,

1036
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: is because she talked to my dad again. I think

1037
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: it was probably I guess it was like twenty seventeen.

1038
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: And when I found out. When I found out about it,

1039
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, like, I mean we didn't like

1040
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: say we're never talking to him again like as a

1041
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: as like a siblings, but it was kind of assumed.

1042
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: And then he felt betrayed, and it was I didn't

1043
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: want to let him into my life. And I felt

1044
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: that if my sister was in my life and I

1045
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 3: was telling her things, then he was going to have

1046
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: access to that.

1047
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't said he would just like show up

1048
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: at your guys's, in your guys' lives like would because

1049
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: for first, I'm thinking this is an absentee father. He's

1050
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: just like lying in business, showing up, using the kids

1051
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: when he needs them, but not really meddling in their

1052
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: lives much else. Right, But this was a guy that

1053
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: would show like your sister's on a date and he

1054
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: like just showed up there and like.

1055
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, he was Florida. I mean he yeah, you

1056
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: know Florida.

1057
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know she was in a completely different state,

1058
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: and then you know he he taps her on the shoulder,

1059
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: and it's so it's kind of like this thing where

1060
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 3: it's like you always felt like you were being watched,

1061
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: even though you know, even though I cut him off

1062
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 3: twenty four you know, for twenty four years, I was like,

1063
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 3: is he in the audience of one of my shows?

1064
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: Because this guy could you know, impersonate to anybody?

1065
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: Because he'd he you have a recording of him talking

1066
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: in Greek. Yes, he speaks French. I guess like he

1067
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: just is a shape shifter and so and and that

1068
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: that video that you played of him that was from

1069
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: like twenty seventeen, that was like in Manhattan, you could

1070
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: have just run into him. Was that a thing that

1071
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: you thought about throughout your life of like completely what'd

1072
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: he be there and have known that you he knows

1073
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: your comedian? How could he have Has he tried to

1074
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: get in touch with you and get in on some

1075
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: of this fame, especially when you've had your pops over

1076
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: the years.

1077
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I locked him from like every like type

1078
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 3: of social media to like know that like where, like,

1079
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: so he wouldn't be able to kind of track me down.

1080
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: But I assume that, you know, it's pretty easy if

1081
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: you just google and be like, oh here, you know,

1082
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 3: here's my show schedule, and then you could just.

1083
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: Like show up there.

1084
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: But uh, but yeah, I was just always in the

1085
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: back of my mind, always hoping that he wouldn't do that.

1086
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 2: I could see him just like getting a private table

1087
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: at the stand, them really hooking him up. They come

1088
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: and he's like, I haven't talked to my son forever.

1089
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: They're like, come on in, and then yeah, like at

1090
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: a front table. Like he just seems like the kind

1091
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: of guy that would do that. But I guess he

1092
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: just really knew you did not want to speak to him,

1093
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: and that was very very clear.

1094
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: And uh, I mean I wouldn't. I mean, who knows.

1095
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: As far as I know, he like didn't show up

1096
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: and like, but you know, I could also see him

1097
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: just showing up and then not saying anything.

1098
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: Well what about Okay, so you said you blocked him

1099
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: on Facebook, but was there a time that you were

1100
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: friends on Facebook? Because if you stopped talking to him

1101
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: when you were fifteen, that was pre Facebook, so it.

1102
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: Was nocked before like you, like, he even has a chance. Yeah,

1103
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: before he even has a chance.

1104
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh Gary, this is so crazy. What the fuck?

1105
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: So you have to I'm guessing you're I'm not going

1106
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: to ask you, but I'm guessing you eventually speak to

1107
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: him or at least you get pretty fucking close to

1108
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: doing it. Were you Was it one of the scariest

1109
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: things you've ever done in your life? Embarking on this?

1110
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 2: Was this like one of the hardest things?

1111
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay?

1112
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: Were there moments where you go, what why am I

1113
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: doing this?

1114
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1115
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: I mean, let's say straight up, the goal is to

1116
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: talk to him, like that is everything. So you know,

1117
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: I put that on paper when I like said that

1118
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: I was doing this, and I'm like, and you know,

1119
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: as you go through the whole process, you're like, all right,

1120
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: this is most likely going to happen. I'm like, I'm like,

1121
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: am I gonna be ready for it? But part of

1122
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: what I'm going through, like you know, talking to my

1123
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 3: sisters and like really trying to re remember the things

1124
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: that happened, you know, going to uh speak to my

1125
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: mom and like going and talking with therapists and all

1126
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 3: this stuff, and talking to friends too. It like kind

1127
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: of trying to build up like the courage to eventually

1128
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: talk to him.

1129
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: Well, because when you're on the way over to your

1130
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: mom's house, so you've never to your mom about your

1131
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: dad since you were a strange from him when you

1132
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: were fifteen. So you're going over there. Your wife's in

1133
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: the car with you, and we were saying how great

1134
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: she is, and she's like, so, what are you going

1135
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: to say? And you're like, you have. It reminded me

1136
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: so much of like how we prepare to do a

1137
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: set or something. For me, at least, I'm just like,

1138
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll figure out when I get there.

1139
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: Like when I'm nervous about something, I don't prepare because

1140
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: I don't want to think about what I'm about to do.

1141
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 2: It has to happen anyway, so me thinking about it's

1142
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: just going to elongate the pain. So you really had

1143
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: kind of no plan how to bring up your dad

1144
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: for the first time, not just you know, this is

1145
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: like the first time he's ever talked about his dad

1146
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 2: with his mom in that long It's like the elephant

1147
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: in the room all the time. And you tell her

1148
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: I got a podcast. I'm sure she was very pleased

1149
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: to hear that, and then you tell her that it's

1150
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: about your dad.

1151
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: And that is the fun Yes, sound effects, yeah she has,

1152
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: like I mean, and she's very dramatic too, so it's

1153
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: just like going so going going through it.

1154
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: You're like and so you see her face like light

1155
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: up that like I tell her that I yes, her

1156
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: Bock is like my son, like he's doing something you know,

1157
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: maybe well we broke like and then uh, and then

1158
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 3: it's like but you know, the catch is like this,

1159
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: you know, terrible thing that happened in our in our lives, and.

1160
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: You guys have to listen because there's just a sound

1161
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: effect that happens when she finds out it's about the dad,

1162
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: and it's just so funny. And you know, if you're

1163
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: writing this, you would have put something similar. It's just

1164
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: it's there's there's like a record scratch moment. It's so good.

1165
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: But I'm I just really in that you really didn't

1166
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: know how the fuck you were going to bring it up,

1167
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: because how can you prepare You don't.

1168
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: Have no idea.

1169
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: And I waited, like you know, I I walk into

1170
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: my mom's house and I, I mean, the goal is

1171
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: to tell her that I'm going to be doing this thing,

1172
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: and I it's always been very hard for me to

1173
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: ever talk to my mom, like just in general. I'm like,

1174
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: it's hard for me to be vulnerable. Why, Yeah, exactly.

1175
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 3: It's just whatever I was taught and like this emotion

1176
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: that I lack, it's just like it's just grown on me,

1177
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: and it's like it makes me it makes it very

1178
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 3: hard to have conversations with her. And this is such

1179
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 3: a serious thing to bring up. And I'm like I'm

1180
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: seeing my wife in like the corner of the room,

1181
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: like a hour and a half into this like stay

1182
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: at my mom's where she is like look at me, like,

1183
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: when are you going to say something?

1184
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's an hour and a half in.

1185
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, it's like an hour and a half in.

1186
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: It's like we we just like sat down to like eat,

1187
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: and like we're waiting to like I think, like you know,

1188
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: we passed bagels or whatever. And then I'm like, I

1189
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: guess now's the time.

1190
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just you just rip off the band aid.

1191
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that sounds like how it went now. I mean

1192
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: you're someone who I mean, you talk in your stand

1193
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 2: about your personal life, but you're just like a guy

1194
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: who kind of keeps like you're just you. I don't

1195
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: think of you as you're you're obviously are you comfortable

1196
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: talking about your feelings? I mean you go to therapy.

1197
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: I remember we were talking about couples therapy. I think

1198
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: one of the last conversations before COVID happened where I

1199
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: was talking to you about, Uh, you were going to

1200
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: couple therapy and that's the woman who shows up on

1201
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: your podcast as your therapist too, and what got you

1202
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: into therapy? And uh, this seems to be the product

1203
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: of a lot of therapy, the idea that you could

1204
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: even do this podcast.

1205
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mean couples.

1206
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: You know, I did go to one on one I

1207
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: saw Alan, which was like that the comics, and that

1208
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 3: was yeah, so I did that.

1209
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: So this guy Alan in New York saw every male

1210
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: stand up comedian, some females, but usually just for one

1211
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: session intertally. H No, I think that, I think pretty much.

1212
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: I would say, like, how many so many comics do

1213
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: you think this guy sees?

1214
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: I mean I would say, oh, I mean yeah, I

1215
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: mean I would honestly put it like an over one hundred.

1216
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: Like it was everyone.

1217
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: It was such a referral base where it's like, oh,

1218
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: like you're you know, every comic, like we all have

1219
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: something and you know, everybody has something to talk about.

1220
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: So you're like, oh, I'm here's my friend who does comedy.

1221
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: I respect him, and he's seeing this person. I'm like,

1222
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: it seems like he's doing better. I guess, so let

1223
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: me go. And you start talking to this guy Alan

1224
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, he's good.

1225
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: Now. Hey. It for me, it didn't work because it.

1226
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: Was like it's not one size fits all.

1227
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and here's the thing, like my issues were like yes,

1228
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 3: it was so much childhood stuff and like you're trying

1229
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: to overcome I mean, I guess everybody's it always goes

1230
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: back to your childhood and so you're always trying to

1231
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 3: overcome that. And what really helped was when my wife

1232
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: and I started going to a couples counseling, like we're

1233
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: having problems.

1234
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: We almost got divorce.

1235
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: Right, I remember this, and I'm glad you're willing to

1236
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: talk about it. What what was your biggest issue? And

1237
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: then how did you get past it?

1238
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Well?

1239
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: She would say it's me, and I would say it

1240
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: was her, but no, but it was like no, I

1241
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: would say, like the biggest issue was like we so

1242
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: there are a few things. One like all my stuff

1243
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: that like all the stuff that I dealt with like

1244
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: as a kid, I would bring that bagage into the relationship.

1245
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: And then my wife had her own stuff, like she

1246
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: she was a big alcoholic. You know, I guess you

1247
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 3: don't have to say big alcoholic. She was an alcoholic.

1248
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: She was bigger than most alcoholics.

1249
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 3: But she yeah right, ye did give like I mean

1250
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: like she's huge, yeah, out of control.

1251
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 2: And so yeah, okay if she's coming from that, which

1252
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: most of us, a lot of us are, yeah, that

1253
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: just obviously she has her shit too.

1254
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we both had it and we were just

1255
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 3: trying to like live together without this resentment. She got

1256
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 3: sober and I was sort of like still dealing with

1257
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: like my stuff of like just I don't know, and

1258
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: were you do drink? I like really slowed down, so

1259
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: I'll drink like very you.

1260
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: Have a problem. You're not a big ayeah, probbably a

1261
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: little one. Okay. So yeah, but that's the thing is

1262
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: like you don't have a thing to quit like she Okay,

1263
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: she gets into recovery and she's working on her shit.

1264
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: And then for people who don't have like an addiction

1265
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: to a substance that is really definable, as like this

1266
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: is the this is where we start at least and

1267
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 2: then get into stuff you like, don't have anything to quit,

1268
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: Like I think so often there are people that don't,

1269
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: that aren't drug addicts, that are struggling in life and

1270
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: depressed and having all these problems in the relationships, and

1271
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 2: they're like, man, if I only had a twelve step

1272
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: program for this thing, that I'm right for sure the

1273
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: thing is there. There are those and it's you know,

1274
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: it's usually like children of alcoholics or like children of

1275
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 2: there's always some kind of group that you can find.

1276
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: But what did you was that does that resonate with

1277
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: you that you kind of felt like what is my

1278
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: thing totally?

1279
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: Or like you just don't you know.

1280
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 3: I was looking at her as like as the one

1281
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: who's the only one who had issues in our relationship.

1282
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: So you're like seeing it because that was the big

1283
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: like red flag, right there was like this person that

1284
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: was drinking uncontrollably. But then my wife got sober and

1285
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: you know, she's been sober for like nine years already,

1286
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: and you're like so yeah, and you're like, oh, like

1287
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: then you start looking at like yourself, because like I

1288
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: started having you know, like we would get an argument

1289
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: still and like or I would have resentment for like

1290
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: past stuff.

1291
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: Like you have to move on.

1292
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: And that's where like couples counseling like really helped, where

1293
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: you're like you have to put all the things that

1294
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: happened in the past. There's never any like infidelity or anything,

1295
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: like you can move past things like how do you

1296
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: how do you communicate with one another? And and like

1297
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: you know, my wife's on the podcast, like like you said,

1298
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: like she does like the way that she presents things.

1299
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: She's always very like articulate and like really like could

1300
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: like express her feelings and and she's much better at

1301
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: that than me.

1302
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: And she's really like opened me up.

1303
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: And I think like a couple's counseling has really taught

1304
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: me like how to like have conversations and really not

1305
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 3: never to go to bed angry, not that sometimes we don't,

1306
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: but like you know, we get over our problems pretty quickly.

1307
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that what I go to with my boyfriend

1308
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: And we've been together off and on for ten years

1309
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: and it's very similar, Like we have had many times

1310
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: where we go like This could go either way, like

1311
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: we could gladly walk away from this and like literally

1312
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: essentially divorce and never talk again, or we could just

1313
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: try to fix it. And there's been so many times

1314
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: where I didn't try to fix it. But I think

1315
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: it is about It's always about communication. It's about like

1316
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: saying you're upset as soon as you're upset, yes, is

1317
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: that like what.

1318
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: It boils down to completely?

1319
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 3: And I witness, like, so my wife and I were

1320
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: having these problems, and it just all made me think

1321
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: of is my parents' marriage, Like I watched them have

1322
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: this troubled marriage. I'm like, oh my god, this is

1323
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: the last thing I wanted. I never wanted to have

1324
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: a marriage that we're like, you're fighting and arguing and.

1325
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 2: You don't bring anything up.

1326
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was just like a fight. Yeah, completely,

1327
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 3: I would just shut down. So and it just made

1328
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: it very hard where I'm like and then so finally,

1329
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 3: but couples counseling was the thing that my father, I remember,

1330
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 3: never wanted to ever go to. And I was like,

1331
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to this and see if it works,

1332
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: and wound up finding like a really great therapist and

1333
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: we were able to talk through things.

1334
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: I feel like it is such a good thing to

1335
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: have completely My boyfriend and I like, he wasn't someone

1336
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: that had gone to individual therapy, but he dabbled in

1337
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 2: it but was not like super into it. And after

1338
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: our first session, he was like, I think I'm good

1339
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: at this, and I'm, yeah, yeah, you are, because you were.

1340
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 2: I'm with you for a reason. You're so intelligent, You're

1341
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: curious about yourself, and this is all it is, is

1342
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: like kind of peeling back the layers and being just

1343
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: curious and being insightful, and it's like it's a cool

1344
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 2: thing to do. And I have never left a session,

1345
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: even bad ones. And I'm not gonna promise this for everyone,

1346
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: but I would say ninety percent of the time I

1347
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: leave our therapy sessions where I think maybe we're going

1348
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: in there to break up, and I feel closer to

1349
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: him afterwards, and we haven't even resolved things when the

1350
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: time is up, Like we leave kind of tense, but

1351
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: I feel more connected to him after or we like

1352
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: kind of because you can't not get honest in there,

1353
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 2: or at least I can't not get like she gets

1354
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 2: it out of us.

1355
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, you have to have like a certain

1356
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 3: sense of awareness about yourself and then like really just

1357
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 3: bring it out. And usually and maybe a great therapist

1358
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: will do that. They'll bring out like these things that

1359
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: whatever happened like in the last week, or something that's

1360
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: been bothering you or troubling you, and then now you

1361
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 3: both have this awareness about your certain behaviors.

1362
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like, I brought up something ages ago that

1363
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, it's like something he wouldn't even remember,

1364
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: because it was just something that I was like, this

1365
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: is just an example of the things that I can't

1366
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: be with someone who talks like this or says that

1367
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Right, And then there was like that

1368
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 2: was maybe a year and a half ago, and something

1369
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: came up like the same thing happened recently, and I

1370
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: got the response that I wanted, and I thought, you know,

1371
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: maybe he's doing it because he remembers being scolded for

1372
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: it in there by me, or maybe he's doing it

1373
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: because he realized that's something I need, and he's just

1374
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 2: doing it because I want it. I don't give a shit,

1375
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, I don't care what the the impetus is.

1376
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: I got what I wanted in that moment, and whether

1377
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: it came from a real place where he was like

1378
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 2: I should do this out of the kindness of my heart,

1379
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: or like this is what I've been trained to do.

1380
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: I don't care when my dog sits and he's I'll

1381
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: give him a treat like it's that and not that

1382
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: my boyfriend's my dog or whatever. But it's like I

1383
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: will still. I don't mind someone being told or just

1384
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: feeling like doing you know that whole thing in the

1385
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: Jennifer Aniston movie The Breakup where she's like, I want

1386
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: you to want to do the dishes. I don't need

1387
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: him to want to hug me a little bit longer

1388
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: in that moment. I just need longer hugs. That's something

1389
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm requesting, and do it and he does it and

1390
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: it and I'm so proud of myself for not being like, well,

1391
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: you're just doing it because I told you too, Like

1392
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: it actually works on me.

1393
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 3: No, it's becomes like a learned behavior that you know

1394
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: now he yeah, so when next thing that happens, he

1395
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 3: knows how to respond.

1396
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: It's and it's not easy.

1397
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 3: But I also think like as a couple, the greatest

1398
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: thing that you have are the things that you've been through,

1399
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: and like, if you guys could, like, you know, if

1400
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: you overcome certain things like that's that's a badge of

1401
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: honor for you as a couple.

1402
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, we almost broke up recently and it was

1403
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,959
Speaker 2: like I thought it was, it was maybe one word

1404
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: away from being broken up.

1405
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 3: Like at one point, man, this ste Briss is really good. Hey,

1406
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: you say, keeps you guys together?

1407
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well, No, this was we were at dinner.

1408
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: This is another thing I recommend if you guys are

1409
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: scared out there to go to couples therapy and you

1410
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: need to get you guys both need to get some

1411
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: stuff out and you need to talk about real shit. Yeah,

1412
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: go and you're reasonable people. Go to a restaurant that's

1413
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: closing in an hour and a half before you bring

1414
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: up this fight. It'll give you. You have to behave yourselves.

1415
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: You can't raise your voice if you're you know you're not.

1416
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: Don't drink and you kind of go to the Olive

1417
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: garden and just wait and then buy clothes. It's kind

1418
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: of like the timer for the therapist and you have

1419
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: to leave, but it lets you get things out and

1420
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: say things and you're in public so it can't get crazy.

1421
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: And I really recommend that. So we were at dinner

1422
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: and it was like getting pretty bad, and at one

1423
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: point we're both like, can't eat. Actually I'm eating just fine,

1424
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: but I'm pretending like I can't get so upset even

1425
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: though I'm like still, but he's like lost his appetite

1426
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 2: because we're about to break up and I'm still like

1427
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: chewing as I'm crying, and but the waitress comes up

1428
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: or no, he just goes the way I guess. The

1429
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: wait just kind of walked by and he goes, are

1430
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 2: you finished? And I'm like with the relationship, And it

1431
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: was at that point where it was like weird and

1432
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: I go, I I don't know about I don't know

1433
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: about either, and and it was it was, but it

1434
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: was it was that close like if I would have

1435
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: said yes, it would have been done and it would

1436
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 2: have been over. But instead we kind of got kicked

1437
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: out because the restaurant was closing and we had to

1438
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: go to this concert right afterwards and meet his friends

1439
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: and family, and I were walking in there like raw

1440
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: as fuck, just you know, just peeled ourselves apart, just

1441
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: got almost or on the precipice of breaking up. But

1442
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: for some reason, because we had just gotten super honest,

1443
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: and I had said some things that I had been harboring,

1444
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: and he said some things that he had been harboring.

1445
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: And we both said things that were really hyperbolic and

1446
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: kind of crazy, which I liked because he's usually so measured,

1447
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: and he said a couple of things that I was like, Oh,

1448
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: that's a fucking crazy thing, and I like, they are

1449
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: playing my game. I just felt closer to him. I

1450
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: don't know why. I felt like we didn't even need to.

1451
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: We resolved it later, but there was something about getting

1452
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: so stripped down and being so honest, which is something

1453
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: we always close out these things and go, hey, we

1454
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: just need to be more honest when things cut out there, Like,

1455
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: but isn't that so hard? Gary? Final thought? Isn't it

1456
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: so hard in a relationship though? To bring up the

1457
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: thing when it bugs you in the moment completely? Like

1458
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: what do you do to do it?

1459
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: I mean some I mean first initially I'm like, I'm

1460
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: not going to say this, and then I wind up

1461
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: saying the thing that bugs me and then cut it

1462
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 3: could cause a fight. I'm trying to think of like

1463
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: a good example of what that is, but you know,

1464
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 3: it could be anything. It could you know, it could

1465
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: be the fact that, like, you know, I'll make a

1466
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 3: little noise while I'm sleeping, my wife just hits me

1467
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 3: and wakes me up, and I'm just like, why do

1468
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: you fucking do that? Yeah, yeah, you know, but but

1469
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: you know, it could just be something and then it

1470
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 3: just spirals. But like usually it's always like something more

1471
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 3: that that you're like you're trying to dive deep into

1472
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: like whatever that issue is, and then you know, yeah,

1473
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: you got to talk it out.

1474
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just that that initial when something is like, oh,

1475
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 2: I'll just let it slide, and then they just pile

1476
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: up and you eventually explode. But that is interesting that

1477
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: you went the other way, you know, like I feel

1478
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: like I've dealt with that in relationships before where and

1479
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: my parents were fighters too, like screamers and yellers, and

1480
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: I would say stop fighting, and my parents would always say,

1481
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: we're not fighting, we're having a discussion. My first joke

1482
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: was like, well, when we have a book discussion in

1483
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: my fourth grade class, missus Reid doesn't throw a chair,

1484
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: you know. I remember making that kind of joke because

1485
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: they would always say, like, we're having a discussion. So Anyway,

1486
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: I also before we go, I wanted to read some

1487
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: of these things to you that I found on Reddit

1488
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: last night. It kind of fits exactly with the just

1489
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: the idea of being a con person I'm obsessed with.

1490
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: Like the there's this book called The Influence of Psychology

1491
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: or something like that where it just teaches you how

1492
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: to manipulate people very casually by doing and saying things.

1493
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: And I don't really utilize the things in it. It's

1494
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 2: kind of like Dale Carnegie. It's just about mental manipulation,

1495
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: which is something we as comedians do with our act.

1496
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: Like we have the ability now to like queue a

1497
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: laughter if we want to, Like, you know, if we

1498
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 2: laugh at our own jokes, we know it makes the

1499
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: audience laugh harder if we sprinkle it with fuck. We

1500
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: might not even do these things consciously, but subconsciously we

1501
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: all are tricking people. Yeah, It's it's rare that you're

1502
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: just getting by on the comedy, which is always our goal.

1503
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: But anyway, this said on ask credit, what's the best

1504
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: psychology trick? You know? And uh, I thought that some

1505
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: of these were pretty interesting. I want to ask your

1506
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: opinion about it. Okay, so this is from a parent

1507
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: asking your kid if he wants three big broccoli or

1508
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: six little ones, same portion size. Do you do stuff

1509
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: like that with your kids?

1510
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 3: Uh No, but I heard that's the best thing to do.

1511
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: Is like you give options and then you know and

1512
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 3: then you you're getting you're getting what you want out

1513
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 3: of that.

1514
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that is what a lot of people said. Oh,

1515
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: someone said, well this is one that you can use

1516
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 2: for yourself. Just promise to do three minutes of that

1517
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 2: thing that you were putting off. Usually once you start

1518
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: keep going, keeping going as easy. Are you someone who

1519
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 2: procrasts Nate's wildly? Are you?

1520
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, you know I do procrastinate.

1521
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 3: And then one of the things I try and do

1522
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: and it comes from a Seinfeld where Jerry goes. You know,

1523
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about like future Jerry, so like you do

1524
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: the thing now. So if I do the thing now,

1525
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 3: then I'm taking in future Gary's like you know, like

1526
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 3: basically person as a personal Yeah, I got to think

1527
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 3: about him.

1528
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: Divorce from yourself and make yourself someone I that is

1529
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: such a genius thing because I was just thinking about

1530
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: I was literally just writing this to my friends talking

1531
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: about how I've been depressed lately, and I go the

1532
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: only reason I ever do anything is because someone is

1533
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: expecting it of me. Like I rarely do something because

1534
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: I want it for myself. It's because someone else wants

1535
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: it for me. I said, if there was a way

1536
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: to make myself someone else right, I would be able

1537
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: to get so much more done. And it sounds like

1538
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 2: psychologically that's what you've done with the future, Gary, And

1539
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: that's really interesting.

1540
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: Gary, Yeah, and I like that.

1541
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough because like you always have, like I'll

1542
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 3: make a to do list and there's things that I

1543
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: can't get to and or like I'll just be like

1544
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: I could do this to now, so but you have

1545
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: to because you'll be driving yourself insane.

1546
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: There's always just too much. There's always something to do.

1547
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: There's always something to do, and and yeah, sometimes you

1548
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: really just gotta do nothing. And I have. So there's

1549
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: so much discomfort in doing nothing for me because you know,

1550
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: when I get depressed, it's usually because I'm not working

1551
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: hard enough. And people go, well, when you're Depressednik, you

1552
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: got to relax and you're sick and you got to

1553
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: take a break. And I'm like, then that's just feeds

1554
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: it more because if I take a break, because I'm well,

1555
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm usually working too much. Burnout leads to depression. Yeah,

1556
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 2: but my depression is also rooted in feeling like I'm

1557
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: not accomplishing things and then so I can't rest because

1558
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: then it'll come on even more. And so it's just

1559
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: like this snake eating itself.

1560
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, fear of missing out, like oh gosh,

1561
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: you're sure you're doing like your podcast, but then you

1562
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 3: maybe you're so exhausted, like I want to get on

1563
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 3: stage tonight, but like I am so tired.

1564
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: Oh that's why I moved to Saint Louis, because there's

1565
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: no stage time here and I don't because otherwise I

1566
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: would be out doing it. It's when there's you could

1567
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: be gary. If you're not out there, someone's doing that

1568
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: spot that you would be doing. They're getting better because

1569
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: we both know that the only way you get better

1570
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: at stand up is doing it. Yeah, there's no like

1571
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: performing writing for and performing for your family or whatever.

1572
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: We're citing it in the mirror. Okay, there's uh. It

1573
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: says if someone is angry with me or yelling or whatever,

1574
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: I will calmly say I think I understand, but could

1575
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: you rephrase the problem differently to help me understand better.

1576
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: That's a good tip in a fight.

1577
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1578
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: Ten times they stop dead in their tracks, regroup and

1579
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 2: rephrase calmly.

1580
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know. I mean with a

1581
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: sane person.

1582
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's true. I mean this is a customer service.

1583
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: It sounds like yes, like your wife in the kitchen. Right,

1584
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: there's the one that, oh, this is this is what

1585
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: I thought was pretty good for just us in general

1586
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: and everyone. It's this guy said. My dad used this

1587
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: phrase a lot while I was growing up. Make it

1588
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 2: easy for them to give you what you want when asked.

1589
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: And this is Dale Carnegie too, Like, incentivize people to

1590
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 2: give you things that you want. Don't just be like, hey,

1591
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: can I come on your podcast? You gotta be like, hey,

1592
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 2: I have a podcast that is uh incredible right now

1593
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: and it's blowing up, and here's the premise. And I

1594
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: think we could have a really interesting discussion around like

1595
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: show like show value when you pitch yourself to things

1596
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: like I'm just thinking about when I used to have

1597
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: to like write people for stage time when I first

1598
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: speak to New York, and I'm like, I think I

1599
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: would bring something very fresh and funny to I would

1600
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 2: always have to. I would Dale Carnegie and go like,

1601
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: what can I offer you, and like, and I will

1602
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: be there on time. Make it easy for them. I'll

1603
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: be there on time, I'll promote it, I'll do like

1604
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: give them. I like this advice of just make things

1605
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: easy for people to give you what you want.

1606
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: For sure.

1607
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: I think that's a good one. It's probably one that

1608
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: your dad used as well.

1609
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, you know, my one of my things,

1610
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: one of my things. Yeah, I mean, yeah, my dad

1611
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: was great at it. But yeah, there's always a benefit

1612
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 3: to the person that was involved in one of his scams. Like,

1613
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: you know, they think that they're going to be getting,

1614
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 3: you know, a deal of something, a high commission, you know.

1615
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: I mean that's how a lot of scams work, you know,

1616
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: a lot of the Ponzi schemes. You think that you're

1617
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 3: going to be getting you know, twenty yeah, twenty percent

1618
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 3: return on your money where you're like, oh, okay, this

1619
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: sounds good, but then yeah, but then you're gonna get screwed.

1620
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: And your dad would collect people. Your dad always remembered

1621
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 2: a name or not. Maybe he didn't remember it, but

1622
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: you said he always got people's cards. Was always extra edge.

1623
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 3: Cards, take shit, to take pictures of people, so became

1624
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 3: a very familiar face with wherever whatever he was doing,

1625
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: very loud, like you know, like, oh this man, funny,

1626
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 3: jovial guy, and like, you know, yeah, exactly, and then yeah,

1627
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 3: it didn't seem like nobody could see, like you know,

1628
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 3: that there was something wrong, you know, because it's it

1629
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: seems like he's just a straight shooter.

1630
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1631
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean you bring his kid along too, so it's like.

1632
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: And you're cute as hell and just and why would

1633
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: a why would he involve a kid in a scam?

1634
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: Like a kid is a kid? Just complete, it's a genius. Actually,

1635
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: your dad is obviously smart. You're obviously smart. You're so hilarious.

1636
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: Go see Gary on the road. I'm guessing Gary Veter

1637
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: dot com, yep vi I D e R dot com,

1638
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: follow him on socials, and definitely you have to check

1639
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: out this podcast. I'm so into it right now. It's

1640
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: so refreshing to have a new serial type podcast to follow,

1641
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: and because I've been wanting one in my life and

1642
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you came on the show because I

1643
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: was gonna listen to it anyway, but it was just

1644
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: so good to ask you questions, and I'll probably be

1645
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: asking you more as the season goes on, but it's

1646
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: still early enough. Everyone get on board now because you'll

1647
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: you'll the episodes are a half hour, so you can

1648
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: get through three really quickly and then stay tuned for four,

1649
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 2: which is coming up on Monday, where we find out more.

1650
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: But I just can't wait to uncover this whole story.

1651
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 2: Thank you for being so vulnerable and doing it and

1652
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 2: all the hard work that would into it. It's such

1653
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: it's such a cool thing that you've done, and it's yeah, I'm.

1654
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: So appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

1655
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: Proud of you and I just think it's awesome. Thank

1656
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: you so much, Gary, thank you, Thanks Nick. You all right, guys,

1657
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: that's the show. We will see you next week. Brian

1658
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: will be back from his goldbladder surgery. I'm going to

1659
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: be in DC this weekend and also at Foxwood's Casino.

1660
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: It's sold out on Friday night, but or on Saturday

1661
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: night Foxwoods. But if you're in the Connecticut area, which

1662
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 2: is a lot of places, Foxwoods on Sunday night not

1663
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: sold out yet, still tickets available, come on out to

1664
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: that show. I would love the besties to be there

1665
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: and how great was Gary? That was so much fun.

1666
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: We'll be back next week. Don't beca see you guys fighting.

1667
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 3: M