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Speaker 3: We're kind to you. I hope you enjoyed it. Very chalky,

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Speaker 3: not a lot of thrills.

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Speaker 2: The upsets did not really happen, and we might be

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Speaker 4: Good look, I'm gonna tell you I'm on one. I'm

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Speaker 4: just gonna tell you already. You know this is the

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Speaker 4: best time of year for mass chaos. We all know that.

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Speaker 4: And I have never complained about being busy, but you

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Speaker 4: know it's part of part of what we love about

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Speaker 4: what we do. But I finished my work for y'alloo

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Speaker 4: last night, covering the tournament at about one in the

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Speaker 4: morning Eastern, So took a three hour nap and three

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Speaker 4: and a half hour nap and now we're going. So

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Speaker 4: I got you know, I've been so clean and everything. No, no, today,

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Speaker 4: I'm hopped up on Rainbow s Sherbert Energy drinks and

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Speaker 4: we're just gonna see how this thing goes.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, buddy, Rainbow Sherbert Energy drinks.

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Speaker 4: I wish I was lying rain Total Body Energy drinks,

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Speaker 4: Rainbow Sherbert Player the day are delightful. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 4: they're so good. The problem is they make these things

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Speaker 4: taste so good that then I have one, and one

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Speaker 4: turns into you know, five or six in a day,

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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, I'm like, God, what did I put my

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Speaker 4: body today? But that's what this weekend's about. You know,

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Speaker 4: this week If you're not sitting down Sunday night feeling

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Speaker 4: like you have gone through a boxing match you weren't

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Speaker 4: prepared for and done things to your body that are

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Speaker 4: almost inhuman while you consumed mass sports for four days, then.

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Speaker 1: You did it wrong.

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Speaker 4: And then that's what we're doing right now. Like March

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Speaker 4: madness is really talking about what we do to ourselves

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Speaker 4: to watch basketball endlessly. But I wouldn't have it any

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Speaker 4: other way. And you and I sometimes talk about like

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Speaker 4: the old guys on the block, But man, how beautiful

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Speaker 4: is it that you know? Because come on, it's not

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Speaker 4: that long ago that you got whatever game you got

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Speaker 4: in the area you were in, and you were hoping

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Speaker 4: you knew what was going on everywhere else, or you

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Speaker 4: could never watch all the games at once. You had

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Speaker 4: to go to a bar to do it. And now

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Speaker 4: the way they've spaced the games out and the way

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Speaker 4: that the way they're televised, you can just pop on

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Speaker 4: YouTube TV with the quad box and I'm watching all

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Speaker 4: the games at once, like this is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're right on, man, I love the way

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Speaker 2: they stagger them. But I'm just stacker. So you're good.

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Speaker 2: There's a game on. Youre used to be that dead

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Speaker 2: but that's not there anymore.

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Speaker 3: Now you got it all the way through just about.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It's it's incredible. I'm with you, it really is.

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Speaker 2: The only issue is and it's shame, but you know

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Speaker 2: it's this tournament is a chalky one and I wonder

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Speaker 2: if this is the way it's going to be right

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Speaker 2: and that one throw this at you see. A lot

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Speaker 2: of the mid majors have less of a chance now,

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Speaker 2: I think because of all the all their players are.

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Speaker 2: They're they're just getting gnad in the portal. They're transferring

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Speaker 2: to power teams. So now the older experience mid majors

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Speaker 2: don't really exist. Like, if they're older in experience now,

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Speaker 4: The way you've said that is powerful and correct and

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Speaker 4: an interesting change in the game. You know. One of

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Speaker 4: think has helped women's college basketball is that because players

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Speaker 4: the sort of cheat code to that has always been, well,

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Speaker 4: And it's it's really interesting because everyone's poaching from everyone.

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Speaker 4: I heard the update anchor talking about the Michigan State game,

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Speaker 4: you know, and you start thinking about Bryant. Bryant, you know,

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Speaker 4: So you know that everybody's poaching from everybody, but it

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Speaker 4: was asked for Yahoo, I was asked whom my Cinderella

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Speaker 4: And I literally went back to our editors and I said,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there is one. And you know, one

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Speaker 4: to give me somebody. And I said to be disingenuous,

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Speaker 4: like I don't think that this is a year where

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Speaker 4: we're gonna see a twelve seed go on this magnificent.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can't believe it. Like, sure they

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Speaker 4: got they got a win. But if you went chalk

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Speaker 4: on your on your bracket, you look at your look

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Speaker 4: at your bracket competitions, you're doing really well. If you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're spot on that filling out the bracket.

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Speaker 3: I was having a really tough time.

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Speaker 2: Like finding those upsets, Like I mean, my Final four

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Speaker 3: I mean it's all ones and two seeds. I mean

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Speaker 3: you can't find anything, and it's really played out.

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Speaker 2: I mean we'll go through all the games, but I

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Speaker 2: mean just look at yesterday, right, you know, uh, you

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Speaker 2: got Robert Mars played Bama tough.

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Speaker 3: That was fun. Right, Ultimately Bama wins Baba.

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Speaker 4: By the way, though without one of their biggest stars

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Speaker 4: for the majority of that game and exactly when the

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Speaker 4: this game is too close like that, that's real from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then and then Lipscomb gets rolled, right,

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Speaker 2: they went off as a favorite in that game over Memphis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Memphis also dealing with some injury issues. So

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Speaker 4: like it's it's interesting. There's a yeah butt to some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, right right right, I mean, you

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Speaker 2: know Grand Canyon historically, like that thirteen would be live

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Speaker 2: and at least kind of give Marilyn a sweat. And

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Speaker 2: you know, Marilyn wins by thirty two. The one seeds,

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Speaker 2: you know, they roll Kentucky over Troy, they roll by

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Speaker 2: It was easy by nineteen right, New Mexico.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's a good opset. That's a ten seventh.

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Speaker 3: That was legit.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's not earth shattering, but I'll give that

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Speaker 3: You know, keep going.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean I felt Xavier would hang

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Speaker 3: Liberty was no match for Oregon.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was it the first day he had

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Speaker 3: And McNeice over Clemson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's funny you mentioned McNeice over Clemson, as

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Speaker 4: the round of thirty two. Like it just it shows

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Speaker 4: you what we all knew. And you know the reason

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Speaker 4: I wasn't with you last week. I was flying out

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Speaker 4: to LA to do a Yahoo Sports live stream on

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Speaker 4: the tournament bracket, and you know I said at the time,

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Speaker 4: you know, the ACC was trashed this year, And you

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Speaker 4: know me, I say that all the time, like trash,

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Speaker 4: that's just an expression I use. And one of my

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Speaker 4: I mean trash, there's a harsh way to put it.

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Speaker 4: the first weekend and guess what the ACC was trash

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Speaker 4: this year. Like when you start talking about the need

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Speaker 4: Big East and the acc should merge together in college basketball.

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Speaker 4: Part of the reason that that conversation is happening is

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Speaker 4: because both of those conferences lack the firepower to compete

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Speaker 4: with what's happening. Like, I know, we're going to spend

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Speaker 4: some time today talking about what the modern landscape of

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Speaker 4: college basketball looks like, right, And you know that merger

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Speaker 4: conversation is not happening because you don't merge conferences because

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Speaker 4: you kind of like the idea because it's cute or

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Speaker 4: because you think it'd be fun. You do it because

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Speaker 4: you need it. In college sports, everything is done because

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Speaker 4: you have to do it and because there's money behind it.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we saw that in the first weekend,

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Speaker 4: Like Clemson losing is just another indication of the fact

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. And who was I talking to Martelli?

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Speaker 3: I think it was Martin this week.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to one of a couple of the

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Speaker 2: If you remember, Phil was the coach of Saint Jose

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Speaker 2: Nelson back in early two thousands, and then he went

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Speaker 2: to Michigan was assistant coach there. His son is actually

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Speaker 2: a coach at Bryant. And we were talking about the

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Speaker 2: challenge that you know, like these football schools or the

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Speaker 2: basketball schools. Half right, you know when that CEC says

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Speaker 2: all right, like we now need to put resources behind basketball,

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Speaker 2: you see the result, Like the result is all those

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Speaker 2: teams are good. I mean, look how well they're doing

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Speaker 2: it in a tournament. They're all good. I mean, my god,

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Speaker 2: I mean other than Georgia, Like they all really kind

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Speaker 2: of show up and then they're all pretty nasty.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of what you're looking at.

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Speaker 2: It even more crystallizes to me that there's going to

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Speaker 2: be this top tier division that is the AFC NFC,

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Speaker 2: or in basketball, it would be the Eastern Conference in

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Speaker 2: Western Conference, right, and it's the Big Ten and it's

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Speaker 2: the SEC. They're going to gobble up those other two,

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Speaker 2: those other major conferences. I think they almost have to.

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Speaker 4: And this becomes part of what is valuable in the

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Speaker 4: nil and transfer portal conversation for where the sport is

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Speaker 4: at right now, because you're so right about the change.

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Speaker 4: with a guy that's recently played in the league and

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00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 4: get such a sense of what's really going on for

437
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 4: so many teams. You know, just the way they openly

438
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 4: talk about, oh yeah, what's good and what's bad, and

439
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 4: you know how organizations are run. And it's just there's

440
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 4: so much basketball knowledge inside the heads of guys that played,

441
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 4: not just from a x's and O standpoint, because I

442
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 4: know podcasts have really allowed players to have that mentality,

443
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 4: but even just listening to players talk about what coaches

444
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: you know, have it and what don't and why and

445
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 4: team building and the way the league behind the scenes

446
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 4: sort of runs it's just there's such a comprehensive understanding

447
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 4: to it that is a beautiful thing to sit around.

448
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 4: I think it's one of the coolest things about what

449
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: we do. When you get to work with guys that

450
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: played at that level, you just get to soak in

451
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 4: what they're saying. And it's like I say all the time,

452
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: if you can be the quiet person in the room,

453
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 4: you can get a lot smarter. So when I'm around

454
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 4: Marcus sometimes I find myself like just being the quiet

455
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: person in the room to get smarter about the way

456
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 4: the NBA is happening right now and what works and

457
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 4: what doesn't work for different organizations. It's it's real clinic.

458
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 4: He puts on a clinic because he's a brilliant dude

459
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 4: with that stuff.

460
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's a great basketball man.

461
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: It really is just obviously besides the players, but being

462
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: a player, they know the game, like you know, the

463
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: inside the game, the whole, the whole, the depth of it,

464
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 2: and some guys are really good at the depth of it,

465
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: and he really is. I'm with you. I'm with you.

466
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's go through it. We start off today

467
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: with McNee and Purdue. All right, So here you go

468
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: the twelve seed versus the fourth seed, and I think

469
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 2: McNee if McNee is live today against Purdue, I'm curiously

470
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: what you think of what you think, But here's the thing.

471
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 3: Purdue does not fare well.

472
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 2: Against teams that that press, and I think McNee is

473
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: gonna be very live against Purdue.

474
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: Because of the matchup.

475
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 2: I think they I think they play good defense, and

476
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: I think Purdue struggles with that.

477
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, I mean McNeice, You're right, they push pace

478
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 4: a lot and Purdue has a size advantage still on

479
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 4: the inside. But man, they're gonna be It'll be interesting

480
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: to see what their ability is to run their offenses

481
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 4: and not get gassed in this. Like I think McNeice,

482
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 4: to your point, is just gonna try and push, push, push,

483
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 4: push push. I was a little surprised. I think this

484
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: opened at five and a half of Purdue favored or

485
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: might be at five and a half. Now, that to

486
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: me actually felt a little heavy. Like I actually agree

487
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 4: with you. We just said that, hey, there isn't a

488
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: twelve that's gonna run through this. But as well as

489
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 4: McNeice shot in the first round, I'll be interested to

490
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 4: see if they can stay that that hot against Perdue,

491
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 4: I think they can. The Big Ten wildly underrated coming

492
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: into this tournament. I said it at the time, like

493
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: we spent so much time talking about the SEC getting

494
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 4: fourteen in, we forgot that the Big Ten got eight in.

495
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 4: That's no you know, and I think I think Indiana

496
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 4: deserved to be in over North Carolina, so eight could

497
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: have been nine. You know. This is a deep league that,

498
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: by the way, not for nothing, was undefeated in the

499
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 4: first round, So the Big Ten is never an easy out,

500
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: but this year, but I do think that there is

501
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: a little bit of a we didn't learn much about

502
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: Purdue taking on High Point. You know, McNeese gets the

503
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 4: win against Clemson and Clemson was just god awful in

504
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: that game, so I think we'll get a better sense

505
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 4: of both. But McNeese can certainly push here. So if

506
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: this game gets into the you know, upper seventies, that

507
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: favors McNeese in my mind.

508
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, McNeice. McNeese should be able to pressure. Yep,

509
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: they need to press. The teams that get Purdue trouble

510
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: is teams that can press and that can like can

511
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: clamp down you on your Defensively, High Point couldn't do it,

512
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: and that's not who they were. So I'm curious to

513
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: see Purdue should have trouble. I'm not a Purdue I

514
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: don't like them. I'm not a Purdue fan. The Jewel,

515
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: the Jewel of the.

516
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: Day is a two forty I mean to forty Eastern.

517
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: It's the It's the Olive Oil Classic, all right, It's

518
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: Fatino and cattle Power.

519
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: Right, I mean they hate each other.

520
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: The committee smartly set this up for the second round

521
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: great game, because I love what Cal did at Arkansas,

522
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: And you know, I think everybody on the East Coast

523
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: is rooting for the Johnnies.

524
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, this is this is like that we've

525
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 4: talked so much about how like the best HBO shows

526
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: have you rooting for the villain and you don't know

527
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 4: why you're rooting for the bad guy, Like there is

528
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: an element of this. This is like, I don't know,

529
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 4: Darth Vader versus Darth Vader is a spider Man meme.

530
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: Like these are two people that everybody as coaches, that

531
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: everybody has turned into these massive villains, but also not

532
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: lost in all of it. They're two of the best

533
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: coaches college basketball I've ever seen. Right, Like so It's

534
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: just there are some coaches that you know, the minute

535
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 4: you step on the court, there at cheat code, Like

536
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: is those a cheat code for Michigan State. There's never

537
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: a doubt about it. This to me, I don't even

538
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: need the players to be introduced. Just give me the

539
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: two coaches right at center court. Let them glare at

540
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: each other when this thing starts, and when the rev

541
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: throws the ball for the jump ball, just the two

542
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 4: of them stare at each other and the ball lands

543
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 4: between them. Like that's the moment I want here. This

544
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: is pure drama in every possible fashion. And by the way,

545
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: also going to be a really good game like Saint

546
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: John's is I think a team that a lot of

547
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: people have slept on in this tournament, seating like I

548
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: have them going to the championship game. Actually, so you know,

549
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: I think Saint John's can absolutely go on a run

550
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: with anybody.

551
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they just come at you in waves many

552
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: they're you know, it's interesting to watch teams at the

553
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: thirty minute mark, go back and look at it. It's

554
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: kind of when they start to will because Saint John's

555
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: comes at you and comes at you, and they're relentless,

556
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: and they play such good defense, and yeah, I know

557
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: they can't shoot, and everybody knows that, but they just

558
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: come at you so hard every possession. My god, that

559
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: I think it just takes a toll on teams. And

560
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: usually by the thirty minute mark, it's when you teams.

561
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: You see teams just start to tire, and then that's

562
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: when they just to start to get margin.

563
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: And the funny thing about that, I love the way

564
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: you said that. I think what's funny about it is

565
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: that the ultimate killer for Saint John's and this tourney

566
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: will be if the refs are calling something tight one

567
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: game like that's it, you know, because to your point,

568
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 4: it's a physical brand of bully ball, you know, where

569
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 4: they're just gonna beat you up. They are, and then

570
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: they're gonna make you see ghosts in you know, the

571
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: I think the college basketball equivalent of seeing ghosts or

572
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: guys that are under the rim and think contacts coming

573
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 4: to them so they anticipate the contact even when it's

574
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 4: not there. That's what Saint John's can do in this game.

575
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: So yes, they they man, they just they disrupt you

576
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: so much that you get out of your game and

577
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: they get in your heads. All of these things. I

578
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: think that's real for the way that they play. So

579
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: you know, if the if they run into an officiating

580
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: crew that is overly, you know, ambitious with their whistles,

581
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: that's gonna be the thing that eventually shuts down Saint John's.

582
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: But I think, frankly, I think they're a much better

583
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 4: team because of the way they play. They are You're right,

584
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: they can't shoot their offensively challenged, but they muck it

585
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 4: up for everybody. They just they make everything look ugly

586
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: for everybody. So you're gonna be the worst version of yourself,

587
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: and if they're the best version of themselves, they're going

588
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: to beat you doing.

589
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: It great great, you put it in a great way too.

590
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: It's it's really what I love about them. I love

591
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: Saint John's. I love the way they play. I love

592
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: that they play bullyball. That they play tough. That's good.

593
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: That's the East Coast, New York City. You know that

594
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: that kind of ball. It's playground, it's harsh. I I

595
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 2: love everything about it. Man, to me, that's ball, And

596
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm with you. The only thing, You're right, you got it.

597
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: You get a group that's gonna call it tight. And

598
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: you know, especially if it's up against the Florida you know,

599
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: that's when they could be some trouble.

600
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 4: Also in this game, keep in mind the location matters.

601
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: Like Saint John's got a home run by getting Providence,

602
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: you know that that that arena is gonna be racked

603
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: and stacked. And it's not with Arkansas fans like, it's

604
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 4: just not. It's like Saint John's fans travel. And you're right,

605
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 4: there's a huge amount of the East Coast that is

606
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: just watching this and loving it. It's it's not hard

607
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: for the weekend to get to Providence, Rhode Island, from

608
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: New York and from that entire area. So man, I

609
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: think I think there's gonna be a real home court

610
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: advantage coming into today too.

611
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you're right.

612
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: And the story of those two coaches and their feud

613
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: is pretty it's pretty cool. Man.

614
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: It's got like that adds to it.

615
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: Injected in my pain's going all it can to be

616
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: two to two o'clock.

617
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: Now let's go, dude, I got a baseball game of

618
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: three thirty.

619
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

620
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I got a baseball game at three thirty.

621
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: Then I got to run home, get showered, and go

622
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: to my wife's friend's party surprise party.

623
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I was like, man, not today, I

624
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: just want to watch that.

625
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: I would trade everything just to give me the one game,

626
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, I just wanted to see that one game

627
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: start to finish. Anyway, Oh my god, I have to

628
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: beat at the baseball game. You know, Moscow plays and

629
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: I helped coach. And all right, where the fellas will

630
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 2: continue to keep go through the slate that you'll get

631
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: to enjoy. Hey, there's some good stuff man right here.

632
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:10,200
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00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,640
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Speaker 3: Radio videos on YouTube. All right, buddy, uh, have you

640
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: have you encountered Patina or Caliparie or.

641
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: Your No, not in person.

642
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 2: I was covering the game. I was a freelancer sports writer.

643
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Do you know the infamous game where John Cheney and

644
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: John Calipari almost went at it? And Cheney said in

645
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: the present, I'm going to kill you? How going to

646
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: kill you? And then to be held back the thugs.

647
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: I covered that game. It was theater man. Yeah, those guys,

648
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

649
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: Col Uh.

650
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: Now Platino, I love Patino. Cal's a bit cal right.

651
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: Patino has obviously his warts.

652
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: The whole world saw those warts. Uh.

653
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: But he's a great basketball coach man, he just is

654
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: he knows how to get the most out of his players.

655
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: Like and those two.

656
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: I do love the coaches part of it, Like are

657
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: do you do you get into the like those colleges.

658
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: To me, the college coaches are their own. They're just

659
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 2: such great personalities.

660
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's the beautiful thing for

661
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 4: when you have one of those guys like you, just

662
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: it changes everything about the way you feel about your

663
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 4: team and the way your team is moving forward. And

664
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: like I said earlier too, like I don't think you

665
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: can be Cali Patino who have become so you know whatever,

666
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: there's there's a million opinions about those two guys. Right,

667
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 4: you can't become one of those guys unless you also

668
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: happen to be wildly good at what you do. Like

669
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: that's just there. You have to at some point be

670
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 4: sort of that dude for people to deal with everything else.

671
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: Otherwise they eventually just leave you to the side. So

672
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: to me, it's one of the one of the cool things.

673
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: Like I mentioned Izzoh, Now, I've watched a lot of

674
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: Michigan State this year, and I think it's really incredible,

675
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: not just the job he's done, but when we have

676
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: this constant thought that you know, if you don't keep

677
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: players happy, they're all gonna want out. He's managed to

678
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: find a way to balance you know, ten guys, they're

679
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: they're deep, right, And I just keep thinking about how

680
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: it takes a very particular set of scrap point for

681
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: a coach to keep players happy in a role that

682
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: is far reduced from what every player believes they're fully

683
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 4: capable of. So, like, I think that's it's just such

684
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: a I think it's an exaggerated way that everybody says, well,

685
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 4: it's a cheat code, but it really kind of is.

686
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 4: You know, that's just that is true, And I don't

687
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: know that there's a better way to describe it. So

688
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: it's funny because as as much as people roll their

689
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: eyes sometimes to guys like Patino and cal I look

690
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: at it and say my god, like you truly have

691
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: a Your entire season is different when you have those guys,

692
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: more than it ever will be for a player that

693
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: it makes such a difference to the entire way that

694
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 4: you feel about your program from day one.

695
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're really a great point about Iszo and Michigan

696
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: State's depth. I don't know how you have depth on

697
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: a team now, just because you know there's money out there, right,

698
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: and there's a bigger role. It's almost like NFL free agency, right,

699
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 2: Like when you see a guy that's a second tier

700
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: player on your team, like an is sending second tier

701
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: player that other teams go and poach, right, Like you're

702
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: gonna do that.

703
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: You're gonna go to to do.

704
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: The elites and say and look at their bench and

705
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: go all right, well, I'm gonna take that kid and

706
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: I think he can become star.

707
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And how do you tell a kid in the

708
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: middle of all this, hey, so you're gonna be benched

709
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: for somebody else, you know. That's one of the great

710
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: stories from Michigan State is about twelve games to go

711
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 4: in the regular season, Jace Richardson got in because of

712
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: illness and then never came back out of the lineup.

713
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: How do you how do you convince a guardroom that

714
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 4: has three guys that all feel like they should be

715
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: starting and only two are going to that you got

716
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 4: to buy in and it's gotta be you know, it's

717
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: gonna be. It's gonna be worth it. And that's that's

718
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: not an easy sales job in my When these guys

719
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 4: are getting more and more sort of ability to do

720
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: whatever they want, however they want, talking them into that

721
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 4: I think is particularly difficult.

722
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're spot on, brother, you know I like.

723
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: Speaking of coaches, I love that Brad Underwood from Illinois. Yeah,

724
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: I think he's a good I think he's a real

725
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: good coach.

726
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: I like them.

727
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you get a little too free happy,

728
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: but I do like him. When they're playing, well, they're dangerous.

729
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 4: Another Big ten team, I'm telling you, don't sleep on

730
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 4: the Big ten. We all thought the SEC was gonna

731
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: run over into the final four. But the Big ten

732
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: doing good things.

733
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: There's one Big ten team that I do not like

734
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: that I think is the biggest fugaise And you have

735
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: to and they're playing that a so I coming up.

736
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: I'll see if you can guess them. Where the Fellas

737
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

738
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: Listening to Fox Sports Radio.

739
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: Radio, Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, happy Uh.

740
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: We got round two Saturday and Sunday, Today and tomorrow

741
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: just as good are almost underrated as far as uh,

742
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: because I think you get really good basketball today and

743
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: tomorrow in this round two. Fellas come you live from

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748
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Speaker 3: So we're going.

749
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: Through the games today and tomorrow, don't you think it's

750
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: an underrated Like we always talk about the Thursday and Friday,

751
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: but this, today and tomorrow are great days.

752
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 4: I think the reason we talk more about Thursday and

753
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: Friday is one Thursday and Friday are workdays. So it

754
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: feels better like it feels like you're, you know, kids

755
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: skipping school basically, like we see all of the things

756
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: on social media where it's like you have permission to

757
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 4: not go to work today. It feels a little bit

758
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 4: like you're getting away with something. And then because of

759
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 4: the chaos of thirty two games, you know, over the

760
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: course of two days. That's just that's so many games

761
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: at once happening, as opposed to you know today, where

762
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: you can spend a little bit more time actually paying

763
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: attention to what you got right because you're gonna have

764
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 4: eight games today eight games tomorrow. Just gives you a

765
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: little bit it's a little less chaos. I think you're right.

766
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: It's everybody's good and you're starting to get better games

767
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 4: at this spot. So to me, that's that's what totally

768
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 4: stands out. But I think there's a difference for so

769
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 4: many people where it feels like, oh, it's a Friday

770
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 4: and I'm at the bar.

771
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: Too in the afternoon.

772
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 4: That's not what I usually do as opposed to a Saturday.

773
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, there's something about it. I guess

774
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: that's why I like bowl games too. Is there's something

775
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: about like Tuesday afternoon or in this case, Thursday or

776
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: Friday afternoon.

777
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: You know sports, it's great, you know the day.

778
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: It's not just baseball or because baseball we're conditioned to

779
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: the midweek day game right in baseball. But there's something

780
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: special about the you know, basketball or football.

781
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: It feels holiday ish.

782
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. I love the way you said holiday ish, because

783
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: let's face it, we get Thursday football every week now,

784
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: but Thanksgiving Day football still feels different, right like Thanksgiving

785
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: Day football, And so there is something, there is a

786
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: there's a there's a holiday feel to March Madness that

787
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: is pretty untouchable. And that's why, you know, for all

788
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: the conversation about mega conferences and what it's going to

789
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 4: mean for the future of the sport and how they're

790
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 4: going to manage college basketball moving forward, I just have

791
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: a hard time believing that there won't always be some

792
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: sort of a March Madness tournament, whatever it looks like,

793
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 4: for you know, for the foreseeable future, because it's become

794
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 4: such an institution, and because so many people still watch

795
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: it because frankly, it makes so much stinking money. So

796
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 4: you know, I just I can't imagine that even if

797
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 4: they even if the landscape of college basketball looks completely

798
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: different in ten years, you still have to believe there's

799
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: going to be some sort of a tournament that has

800
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: casuals from all over the world, you know, betting on

801
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: this and sitting in sports books and like. This is

802
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: I think one of the most electric weekends you can

803
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 4: ever spend in Vegas or at a sports book anywhere.

804
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: That's why they're so wildly expensive this time of year,

805
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: because it's just such a different vibe when you're around everybody.

806
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 4: I can't imagine that vibe isn't going to be still

807
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 4: something that's protected because it's a profitable vibe. Dude.

808
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: So I did my show the last two days from

809
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: the from the casino right around in my area and

810
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: do it.

811
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: It was like, it's awesome, right, It just is.

812
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: The place is packed, every seat is taken, and you

813
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: know there's food and beer and cheering, and you know

814
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: you're right about that. You always talk about like those

815
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: NFL Sundays, you know, there's the.

816
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: Communal viewing is awesome.

817
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: Like when you have all those people and everybody's excited

818
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 2: and into it, you know, that's fun.

819
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: It gets gets it's just good fun.

820
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: Like I know that everybody's betting and or whatever, but

821
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: it's it's fun stuff, man, everybody's into it.

822
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: Well, the betting is part of what creates So you know,

823
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: I see both sides on betting content, right, Like when

824
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: we talk about how much different shows on TV and

825
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 4: radio like to talk about betting. Now, I think a

826
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 4: lot of people's eyes just gloss over on someone. You

827
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: have to be careful. But what makes what makes March

828
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: Madness so incredible in so many ways is not just

829
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 4: that there's all these games going on one at once.

830
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 4: It's that everybody has a bracket. So even if you're

831
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 4: not betting, you have a bracket and you suddenly care

832
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: about it. And then you've got these little schools to

833
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 4: become easy to root on. And then when you're in

834
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 4: a sports book, you've also got so many people riding

835
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: together on different you know, different parlays, different bets, and

836
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: it just creates this investment. And that's what I think

837
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: I love about, you know, watching sportsbook type NFL Sundays,

838
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: is that if you're a Browns fan and you're in

839
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: a bar, you're not in that bar because you feel

840
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: like hitting on a girl. You're in that bar because

841
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: you're watching the Browns, you know, and like there's a

842
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: different level of passion to all of it. And when

843
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: you put that to March Madness, like, you know, there's

844
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 4: a mega resort not far from where I live in Connecticut,

845
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: and I looked, I was like, I'm just gonna go

846
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 4: get a hotel room at that resort, and you know,

847
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: do all my work from the hotel room and sit

848
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: in a sports book all weekend. And you know, unfortunately

849
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: the hotel rooms were like six hundred bucks. But the

850
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 4: reason for that is that, yeah, yeah, not like that.

851
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: It's a nice resort, but it was also five or

852
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 4: six hundred bucks to get a seat in the sports book.

853
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: And so there's a reason. Because it's an electric vibe

854
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: that you know, groups want to go to and everybody

855
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 4: wants to hang out, and it's just it hits different.

856
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 4: And I honestly believe the people today, wherever in the

857
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: country they are that are sitting in random sports books

858
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: with their buddies watching, are having probably the best of

859
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 4: all of the watch experiences you can have for the tournament.

860
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, now it's awesome. It really is. Hey, you

861
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: brought something up. We're talking about holidays and the idea

862
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: that sports makes it feel like a holiday. I got

863
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: a question for you. Can't if the NFL wanted to

864
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: play i don't know, Tuesday football and put a game

865
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: on or a series of games on Tuesdays, would the

866
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: NFL have enough power to disrupt the work week?

867
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

868
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: I think so, Like a Tuesday night game, not not

869
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 4: a day game, but a Tuesday night game.

870
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: Like if they said, if they how about this? All right,

871
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm phrasing it wrong. I'm coming.

872
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking.

873
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: You just had me thinking about this, and I was

874
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: thinking about the power of the NFL. If the NFL

875
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: said we're going to take one week from the calendar.

876
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: And I don't know what, let's see you put it in.

877
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: Let's start early in this season. Let's say that weak.

878
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: Yes, And they said, we're going to create this football

879
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: holiday and we're going to bookend it with the super

880
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: Bowl and the first day Thursday, right, like you know,

881
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: the off on Thursday. But instead of starting with one

882
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: game Thursday night, they're gonna take and they're gonna play,

883
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: you know, three games on Thursday and try to force

884
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: football as a holiday giving people off. Now, that might

885
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: take them a couple of years, But do you think

886
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: the NFL could succeed?

887
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 4: I think if they put the full slate. If they

888
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 4: if they decided to open the season on a Thursday

889
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 4: and they're putting everything, but a Sunday night came and

890
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 4: a Monday night came on Thursday. Yes, I think people

891
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 4: would would would for Week one, they would stop everything

892
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 4: and go somewhere and watch the games. If there were

893
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: a whole the March madness thing of you know, they're

894
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: they're gonna be we're gonna put what fourteen games on

895
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: that and that day, Yes, I think people would flock

896
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 4: to it and it would become an annual tradition for sure.

897
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 4: It's it's interesting because you know, I don't you get

898
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: so starved for your favorite team by then? You know,

899
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 4: it's once we get through the draft, the level of

900
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: palpable sadness you will start to feel from football fans

901
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: is so real, you know, like us included, right, like

902
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: we're going to be sitting here at the beginning of

903
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 4: May post draft saying what in the hell are we

904
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 4: going to do for the entire summer? You know? So, Yeah,

905
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: if they decided to make Thursday of week one of

906
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: fourteen out of the sixteen games are going to be right,

907
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 4: then yes, I think people would flock to it. And

908
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: they if they treated that Thursday like a Sunday with

909
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 4: games at one four and yeah at one o'clock, four

910
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 4: o'clock in one night game, yeah, I think it would

911
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 4: become a national Yep, we're just gonna figure out everybody's

912
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: taking that day off, because hell, there's no chance I'd

913
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 4: be missing, like especially if your favorite team's could. But

914
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 4: even if they're not, that's the one week of hope everybody.

915
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: Has, yeah starved.

916
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we'd all be flocking to it. I'm like,

917
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: I'm not missing the opening, the season opener for the Raiders,

918
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 4: Like that's just that's that's an unnegotiable for me. So yeah,

919
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 4: I think one hundred percent they could do it. Don't

920
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: give Roger any ideas though, cuz like that there's Roger's

921
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 4: gonna be sitting there saying we can make some money

922
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 4: off of that.

923
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you can have you know, it's National

924
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: NFL Day, God would, And it's a holiday, and we

925
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: bookended because you're gonna move the super Bowl to President's

926
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: Day weekend, right, so everybody's gonna be off on that

927
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: Monday anyway, and it's a de facto holiday.

928
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 3: So why not give the people.

929
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: What they want, which is a day off in September

930
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: to watch football.

931
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 4: Because of the amount of games they have, they can't

932
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 4: do this anymore. But man, if you had done that

933
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 4: on if they'd done that back in the day on

934
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: Labor Day, you know, it's like, hey, Labor Labor Day

935
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 4: Monday is just going to be all NFL games all day.

936
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: I mean, we would freak for it.

937
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: We would absolutely even better. Here's what I'm going to

938
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: give the people. Because I love the people, I love

939
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: the masses. I want to go and start the season

940
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: on Labor Day Tuesday, to start to.

941
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: Give them a four day weekend.

942
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 4: That's amazing. You know what you are, man of the people.

943
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna go out. We're gonna end the summer with

944
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: a blast. No school, all right, we're gonna end the summer.

945
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: This is our summer blowout holiday, and we're gonna end

946
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: it with the start of football the NFL season.

947
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: Oh man. You know, the funny thing is there is

948
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: in my mind, there's so it would take two or

949
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 4: three years before people would say, yep, gotta figure it out.

950
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 4: Like we're just gonna figure out how to get that

951
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 4: day off. You know, it's just in the in the beginning,

952
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: everybody would be angry and then well, look, we can't

953
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: change it. So we're gonna have figure out how to

954
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: get that day off. And it's funny because remember it

955
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 4: wasn't that long ago that Mark Cuban, you know, made

956
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 4: his comment about the NFL essentially, you know, being such

957
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: pigs that they're eventually going to be put out to slaughter.

958
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: And it's like now Mark Cuban doesn't even own an

959
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: NBA team anymore. So every time you think that the

960
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 4: limit has been reached, Roger looks around. Roger Cadell looks

961
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 4: around and says, no, I think I found another opportunity.

962
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 4: And until one fails, they're just gonna keep doing it

963
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 4: and doing it.

964
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, Like to me, that's what I would do.

965
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: I create. I'm already old stuff. I'm gonna take over

966
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 2: the world. It's manifest destiny.

967
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 3: Right.

968
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm in Brazil now, I'm in Mexico, I'm in all

969
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 2: over England. I'm wanna I'm in Germany. All right, I'm

970
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: taking over the world. It's manifest destiny.

971
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're not. It'll be interesting to see because,

972
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 4: you know, frankly, the expectation is that eighteenth game is

973
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 4: gonna be added before you know it. And when that

974
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 4: eighteenth game is added, and then there's an international game

975
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 4: every single week, which is also inevitable, then you know

976
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 4: we're going to have a Eastern time ten am international

977
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 4: game every Sunday morning and then we're gonna have football

978
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 4: all day Sunday and it's going to go to eighteen games.

979
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: And you know, Charles Robinson, our Yahoo NFL insider who

980
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: I love working with, Sea Robbie does great work. And

981
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 4: for anyone that didn't see this, I thought it was

982
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 4: funny the day that Gino was traded to the Raiders.

983
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: That that morning, we were taping our podcast Inside Coverage,

984
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 4: and as we were taping it, just flippantly at one point,

985
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: see rob was like, Hey, how would you feel about

986
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 4: Gino to the Raiders and Sam Darnold to the Seahawks?

987
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: Would that makes sense to you? And that was I

988
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 4: don't know, eight hours before anything came out. So like

989
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: Sea rob always knows what's going on, and it was

990
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 4: interesting to me because he said a few weeks ago flippantly, yeah,

991
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 4: it's going to go to eighteen games. And people inside

992
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 4: the league believe the salary cap is going to be

993
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 4: as high as five hundred million dollars when that happens

994
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: because of the new TV deals. So like you're talking

995
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: about a salary cap of every team of five hundred million,

996
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: Like you want to know why teams are spending so

997
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: much money right now? They believe they're going to have

998
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 4: it to spend in about four years. So you know, well, yeah,

999
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 4: if you're making that much money, my god, why not, like,

1000
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: why not just keep going and go? Like there isn't

1001
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 4: a limit to this if it's not hurting anybody and

1002
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 4: other than the players who collectively bargain. And you know, frankly,

1003
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 4: fans are fans are gonna let it keep happening over

1004
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 4: and over and over again.

1005
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 2: It's not about letting it happen to me. It's like, yeah,

1006
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: let's go, man, Like I let's do it. I'm all

1007
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 2: about the eighteen game schedule, all right, let's go.

1008
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1009
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 4: Oh no, Like look, frankly, I think I'm the only

1010
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 4: idiot that thinks this. I think we're going to go

1011
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 4: to eighteen and about five years after that they're just

1012
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 4: gonna go to twenty because it's cute number and they

1013
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: can make more money. So I'm a big I'm just

1014
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 4: a big believer in like, yeah, yeah, I know.

1015
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: We see me the ultimate glutton, and I'm a glutton

1016
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: for it.

1017
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 4: Twenty feels I mean, it just feels inevitable to me.

1018
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 4: Like there was a documentary about a beer company years ago.

1019
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 4: In watching their growth, and one thing that they said

1020
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: as they were growing was, you know, when you're getting

1021
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 4: a warehouse, imagine your best scenario and then make it

1022
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 4: like five times bigger than that. And there was this

1023
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: moment of well, why would we do that? And we

1024
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 4: can't afford this much space, and then they exploded well

1025
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 4: past that and needed even more space. I think sometimes

1026
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 4: when you expand rather than just expanding like the college

1027
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 4: football playoff, if you were inevitably going to get to

1028
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 4: more teams, just get to more teams, like, don't halfway

1029
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 4: to this, just rip the band aid off and go

1030
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 4: and you know so, yeah, I think getting to twenty

1031
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 4: is terrible on their bodies. But at the end of

1032
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 4: the day, we'll watch it. That's the other side. Likely

1033
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 4: eliminate the preseason. Give us twenty football games we watch.

1034
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, you will watch it? Is right and.

1035
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: Argument there. I just felt, man, it's a that's that's

1036
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: tough speaking of Uh. Since we're on the subject of ideas,

1037
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: I got to throw this at you. So you show

1038
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: the story that Dion, who's brilliant, is looking for an

1039
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: opponent for his spring game, and it looks like Syracuse

1040
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: is it?

1041
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 3: Did you see that.

1042
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's tough because current INCAA rules don't

1043
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 4: technically allow this, but they're going to write, like, you know,

1044
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 4: the smartest thing about it to me Dion saying, hey,

1045
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 4: I want to do a spring game against another team.

1046
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: It is a in a year where they're already talking

1047
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: about what his contract extension is going to look like

1048
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 4: Dion is brilliantly finding a way to add a home game,

1049
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: like they're going to sell the spring game against a

1050
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: team Syracuse, you know, came out and said, let it

1051
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 4: be us. They're going to sell that stadium out. Everyone's

1052
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 4: gonna go. And then Dion's gonna be able to look

1053
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: at it and say, hey, there's another you know, X

1054
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: amount of million dollars in the coffers that we can

1055
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 4: use for my raisin for more nil. Like I think

1056
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 4: the brilliant thing is that he's Sneaky's just found a

1057
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: way to make a ton of extra money, and that's

1058
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 4: tough to do. To find new revenue sources is not

1059
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: an easy thing.

1060
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: So here's my question, and your spot on by the way,

1061
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: here's my question. Could you imagine a world to borrow

1062
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: your phrase, where you have a package of spring games.

1063
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: And you do.

1064
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1065
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: You could have.

1066
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: Almost running from April all April, may you know, a

1067
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: half a June, little part of June, and you know,

1068
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: maybe it's ten weeks and you have the series of

1069
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: spring games on.

1070
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: TV every weekend. You were to tell me that.

1071
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: Whatever network, streamer, what in clamor to televise these games.

1072
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: So everybody has a spring game and there's opponents for everyone,

1073
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: and you play this, you know, eight to ten week

1074
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 2: you know spring game schedule.

1075
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: Really it's just one game per school.

1076
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a huge revenue stream. And then you're

1077
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 4: turning around to if you're Notre Dame, you're turning around

1078
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 4: to Peacock and you're saying, well, we're giving you an

1079
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Speaker 4: extra home game, So what's in it for us?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 4: Like, of course, man, and you're right, we would all

1082
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 4: watch the ratings on. It would be through the roof

1083
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 4: because we're football starved at.

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00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: That, because it's real football.

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00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: Start.

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00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: Then let's get a glimpse of what you're going to

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00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: see in the fall all sleep preview of autumn in spring? God,

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00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: are you kidding me?

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00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 4: Not only would we all watch it, it would fire

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: up your fan base. It gives you know, your players

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 4: another opportunity to stand out like it it's another data point,

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 4: you know. It's yeah, I mean that's a and it

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00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 4: fills the void of a time of year where we're

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00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 4: just football starved. I mean's just this, this is this

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Speaker 4: is real. Like, at least in the NFL we have

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Speaker 4: the draft to look forward to, right, so we I

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00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 4: think that's part of the reason that we put so

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00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 4: much emphasis in it. In college football, you're just stuck.

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00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 4: You're waiting for something to root for and something to

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Speaker 4: talk about and and something real on the field. It

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00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 4: gives you that to look forward to and then that

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Speaker 4: to react to for two months afterwards. So yeah, oh

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Speaker 4: my god.

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Speaker 2: The spring series right week one is Baton Rouge. Week two,

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Speaker 2: no tre Dame. Like you could just see the prime

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Speaker 2: time games on all the.

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Speaker 6: Venues here, you're absolutely now, I want this all right,

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Speaker 6: I'm adding that to my list when I become bizarre

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01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 6: of college football that I'm adding this to my list.

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Speaker 4: It's great, it's.

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Speaker 2: Great, great idea for you. I've had these ideas as Figgie.

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Speaker 2: I've had the see this the whole thing with the

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Speaker 2: way football did with the the night game at Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: all the eighteen. I had the eighteen game schedule ten

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Speaker 2: years ago. I talked about this stuff. I love schedules.

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Speaker 2: Where the fellas, We'll get back to basketball coming up

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Speaker 2: All right, my boy, let's uh, let's get back to basketball.

1138
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: So we got through two games, we got We've got

1139
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: a lot more to get through Mcnese and Purdue.

1140
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 3: We did.

1141
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: Arkansas, Saint John's, the Battle of Patino Calipari, and then

1142
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit your opinion here because I don't like Michigan.

1143
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how.

1144
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Speaker 2: Michigan is where they are, to be honest with you,

1145
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: and I love Texas, A and M today.

1146
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 3: Tell me why I should love A and M today.

1147
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Speaker 4: So that's a good question. Michigan. Until the Big Ten Tournament,

1148
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 4: I was out on Michigan and then not. I mean,

1149
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 4: they won the tournament, so that's a easy it feels

1150
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 4: like a cop out. But Michigan's offense for the last

1151
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 4: month of the season regular season, I thought was wildly

1152
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 4: unpredictable and it felt like they've they had a tough

1153
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 4: time generating, especially against teams that push them. And so

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Speaker 4: look back at the two games against Michigan State where

1155
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 4: they just got absolutely ran out of the building, Like

1156
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 4: if you run Michigan, you run them out of the building.

1157
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Speaker 4: And that that I thought that that might haunt them

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01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 4: in the Big Ten Tournament, and then it didn't. They

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01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 4: won the Big Ten. But I think the committee told

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01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: you something, the fact that they won the Big Ten

1161
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 4: and were still only a five seed, which you know,

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Speaker 4: considering how as we mentioned that conference so far undefeated

1163
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 4: in the tournament, and that conference I think was underseated

1164
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 4: all over the place. But it's interesting to me that

1165
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 4: they were still only a five. Like Wisconsin did not

1166
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 4: win the Big Ten, they were a three. Michigan State

1167
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 4: didn't win the Big Ten. They were a two Michigan

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 4: five as a conference champion. For a reason they have,

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01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 4: They just have a tendency to disappear. I think that's

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01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 4: a fair way to say it. So I get nervous,

1171
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 4: but we have seen now Michigan's on a heater. So

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Speaker 4: that's the only caution that I have here, is that

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Speaker 4: they went through the Big Ten tournament in part because

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Speaker 4: they were on a heater. Right, So I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I don't love Michigan, but they're hot. So I'll be

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Speaker 4: interesting interested to see, you know, kind of what Brad

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Speaker 4: thinks later because there's an element for me where I

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01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 4: don't trust Michigan, but also now I like I don't.

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Speaker 1: And I think them a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Texas A and m is being slept

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01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 4: on a little bit, Like I thought it was pretty

1182
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 4: disrespectful in the first round. How many people thought Texas

1183
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Speaker 4: A and M would be out before they even got

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Speaker 4: to the round of thirty two. So I'm with you

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Speaker 4: that this one looks like it could be a good

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Speaker 4: opportunity for Michigan to hit a wall.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like A and M too. I'm with you.

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01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: I thought that they got that they've gotten kind of

1189
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Speaker 2: shafted through this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: So I'm I feel the same way, all right.

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Speaker 2: So that's the five point fifteen Eastern, two fifteen Pacific game,

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: and then they start to come right. So the first

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Speaker 2: game's at twelve ten Eastern, nine ten Pacific, then two forty,

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Speaker 2: then five point fifteen, and then they start to come

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Speaker 2: in rapid fire and at six ten eastern, three tempests

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Speaker 2: Drake and Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: Is the Drake Live because Drake feels live in this game.

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Speaker 4: To me, like, look, I got to give Drake a

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Speaker 4: lot of credit. They looked really good in the first round.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like Drake the basketball team is about

1201
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: to meet the same fate as Drake the singer taken

1202
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 4: on Kendrick Lamar, Like this isn't gonna go well. For that.

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Speaker 4: I like Texas Tech here. But but I will say

1204
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Speaker 4: that did Drake. I didn't think Drake would win in

1205
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Speaker 4: the first round, So what the hell do I know.

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Speaker 4: That's one of the ones I got wrong. I was

1207
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Speaker 4: tweeting somebody earlier. You know, in the first round, I

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Speaker 4: got twenty two out of thirty two. So twenty two

1209
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Speaker 4: and ten in the men's side. I'll take that on

1210
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Speaker 4: my bracket. That's not bad Drake. One of the games

1211
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Speaker 4: that I got wrong, though, So I was wrong about

1212
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Speaker 4: Drake coming into this thing and Man in the first round.

1213
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Speaker 4: They looked in control, they look poised. They moved the

1214
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Speaker 4: ball really freaking well. So I got to give Drake

1215
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Speaker 4: a lot of credit.

1216
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they moved the ball right. They look good.

1217
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: They looked really good.

1218
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Speaker 3: I hear you. It'll be interesting. I don't know how

1219
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 3: I feel about Tech.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I certainly don't think Texas Tech is you know,

1221
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 4: we said earlier that there's a group of teams that

1222
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 4: I think can really win a national championship. I don't

1223
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 4: think Texas Tech is one of those. You know, they

1224
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 4: score a lot of points. I mean, they certainly score

1225
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 4: a lot of points. But Man and JC Toppen is

1226
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 4: a good player, but I don't know, it just doesn't

1227
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 4: The Big twelve this year didn't didn't impress me the

1228
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 4: same way. So yeah, I'm I'm sort of mid on

1229
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 4: Texas Tech.

1230
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was interesting.

1231
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 2: They never could really run away and hide from UNC Wilmington,

1232
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: a team that's not that good.

1233
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not wrong. They're not wrong. Like I don't

1234
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 4: know what to make of first round wins, you know,

1235
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Speaker 4: because I'll go back to Michigan State last night. You know,

1236
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 4: Michigan State didn't look good in the first half of

1237
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 4: a TV fifteen games, So I don't know what to

1238
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 4: make of that sometimes, you know what I mean. But

1239
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 4: that's also been in their DNA all year with the

1240
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 4: slow start, So I don't know. Sometimes I look at

1241
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 4: these first round matchups, I'm like, oh, well, you're survived

1242
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 4: and you got your tournament hitters out, But I don't know,

1243
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 4: you're You're right about that UNC Willington game, Like we

1244
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 4: were never able just to say, Okay, this one's in

1245
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:20,479
Speaker 4: the bag.

1246
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: No, I mean, and that's not a scary team. That's

1247
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 2: my only point. And again, I just don't know that

1248
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 2: they I trust they're great, all right, the next game

1249
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: is a really good one.

1250
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 3: It's got a chance to be really good.

1251
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: And that's your top seeded Auburn Tigers against Creighton.

1252
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 3: Big East is another conference I like.

1253
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: And Crayton they could They're dangerous, man, They're a dangerous squad.

1254
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: This game is interesting to me because I think they

1255
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: could stress Auburn. I like Auburn to win, but I

1256
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: think you're great and could stress.

1257
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like the way you said that, like Creighton

1258
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 4: can stress them. I think it's probably pretty fair. Again,

1259
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 4: go back to moving the ball and go back to spacing.

1260
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 4: And Creighton shot the ball really well the other night.

1261
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 4: Like that version of Creighton moving the ball around and

1262
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 4: getting open looks for three if they land those threes,

1263
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 4: kind of like Yukon last night. You know, Yukon this

1264
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 4: year has not been a good three. They haven't been

1265
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 4: a good consistent shooting team. But they got on a heater,

1266
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 4: you know. And So I watched the Creton team that

1267
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 4: I picked in the first round, and I watched them

1268
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 4: move the ball around, and I watched them make the

1269
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 4: ex pass, find the open look. They did that really well.

1270
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 4: If they knocked those shots down, they can stress anybody.

1271
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 4: So I think Auburn's a better team, you know, and

1272
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 4: come back to the nugget we've all heard now, I

1273
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 4: think at this point one hundred times that no team

1274
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 4: in men's basketball history has ever lost three of their

1275
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 4: last four games in the regular season and won the

1276
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 4: national championship. I think Auburn hit a bit of a

1277
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 4: wall at the end of the regular season and into

1278
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 4: the SEC Tournament. So I am truly interested to see

1279
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 4: what that looks like as it goes on all the

1280
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 4: one seeds. I find myself trusting Auburn the least, even

1281
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 4: though Auburn was the number one overall seed.

1282
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, you know what it is.

1283
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: I think we probably can't get down the stretch out

1284
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 2: of our minds.

1285
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 4: And that's fair because the average age of Auburn is

1286
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 4: almost the same as the average age of Oklahoma City.

1287
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 4: So you're talking about a college basketball team that's older

1288
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 4: and more mature and should should not have hit the

1289
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 4: wall that they hit like. So, I think there's a

1290
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 4: fair and reasonable conversation happening amongst basketball minds of did

1291
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 4: did the world sort of catch up to Auburn?

1292
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 3: Like?

1293
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 4: Are they just? Are they tired? I had I had

1294
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 4: two former players say they look tired and.

1295
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1296
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: I mean, now you're gonna have a game twenty four

1297
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 4: hours rest in the game. Like, I'm nervous about Auburn

1298
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 4: throughout this whole tournament, which means obviously they're gonna win

1299
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 4: the national championship, but I'm nervous about them right now.

1300
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 3: No, I I think I think your spot on with it.

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01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

1302
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 2: And then we go down in seven forty five tonight

1303
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: and this is a great I think this can be

1304
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: a fun game, man. BYU and Wisconsin up and down.

1305
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 2: You know, again, we've talked about before about Wisconsin and

1306
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: how Wisconsin likes to push that. This isn't bo Ryan

1307
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 2: plot plotting Wisconsin. This is athletic and push the ball

1308
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 2: Wisconsin against BYU that pushes the ball.

1309
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 3: This is a good game, man, I'll be honest with you.

1310
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: It's one and a half Wisconsin one and a half,

1311
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: and I can't figure it out. I kind of slightlyan

1312
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: the BYU. But I think it's a great game.

1313
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I really you're pointing an important one on offense,

1314
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 4: Like I think what happens a lot of times for

1315
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 4: the tournament is we just stick in our heads about

1316
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 4: what certain brands look like. And when you think Wisconsin basketball,

1317
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 4: you think a couple of clunky white dudes in the

1318
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 4: middle that you know are just gonna make things ugly

1319
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 4: and they'll win some games, but it's never it's never

1320
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 4: this beautiful version of basketball, right, Like that's sort of

1321
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 4: what people think. This version of Wisconsin can score, and

1322
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 4: they can. And you know that there was a real

1323
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 4: conversation I mentioned earlier working with Marcus Morris, Like Marcus

1324
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 4: watched a lot of BYU this year and his biggest

1325
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 4: question is can they handle sort of toughness, Like can

1326
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 4: they get into a tough matchup with somebody? Well, that's

1327
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 4: not what this game's gonna be. I think this is

1328
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 4: an electric basketball game, and frankly, I can't believe with

1329
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 4: BYU Wisconsin. I'm saying this, but I like the over

1330
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 4: on this, Like I think this turns into a shootout,

1331
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 4: and so a shootout I think benefits Wisconsin more than BYU.

1332
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 4: I like Wisconsin in this game, but I don't I

1333
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 4: don't love either side of it.

1334
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: Like this this really is.

1335
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 4: While we've talked about the fact that coach, you know,

1336
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 4: the cal Patino matchup is the premier matchup. I think

1337
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 4: this is the best game of the day and it's

1338
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 4: not even close, Like this is a this is a

1339
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 4: great basketball game.

1340
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree, completely agree with you. All Right,

1341
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: we'll go to take quicktillo. We'll come right back. We've

1342
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: got some rule changes. We'll continue to go through the

1343
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 2: card between today and tomorrow. A little bit later on

1344
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: the Brain, we'll give you some picks. So we got

1345
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: you covered as always right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1346
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 4: Hey Anthony, Yeah, hi Jacket in the show for a second.

1347
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 4: Please do shout out to my buddy Ryan Hurd put

1348
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 4: out a new record, Midwest Rock and Roll. The record's

1349
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 4: out came out this week. It was a great, great,

1350
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 4: great artist. Everybody should check him out. But also he's

1351
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 4: just a badass human being. So, you know, shout out

1352
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 4: to Ryan putting out a record that's out there. Got

1353
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 4: to listen to it. It's spectacular Midwest rock and roll

1354
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 4: available wherever you get your music. I got to give

1355
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 4: him a shout out for doing great work. Got a

1356
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 4: bunch of friends that worked on that record, and like

1357
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 4: you just root for wildly talented people that also happen

1358
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 4: to be wildly good people, and that's Ryan. So I'm

1359
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 4: super excited for him.

1360
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 2: Ah, that's great man, that's fantastic. It's awesome. That's great stuff.

1361
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 4: We'll cut your music love this morning.

1362
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 3: Well, are you going to go on your tour this summer?

1363
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 4: I'm sit in with some people here and there, I'm sure,

1364
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 4: just because it's fun. You know, Collective Souls coming up

1365
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 4: to Connecticut again, so I'll sit in with them. Edward

1366
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 4: McCain is coming into Connecticut and talk to him the

1367
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 4: other day, So gonna sit in with him, and then

1368
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 4: I'll pick a couple of shows. You just got to

1369
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 4: make a little music. I might go down to Nashville

1370
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 4: too and record some of my stuff this summer and

1371
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 4: just you know, start putting out a little bit of

1372
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 4: a little bit, like it's fun to make music that

1373
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 4: I don't care if anybody likes. You know, you spend

1374
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 4: so much of your life making music that you think

1375
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 4: you have to make because that's what it takes to

1376
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 4: be commercially successful for a record label. And so I

1377
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 4: think one goal this summer is to go in the

1378
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 4: studio and do do some of my stuff my way

1379
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 4: and write a bunch of I've got a bunch of

1380
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 4: depressing songs that you know, I like writing and writing

1381
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,799
Speaker 4: dark music. I'm a happy dude that writes really sad songs.

1382
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 4: So you know, I think that's one of the goals

1383
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 4: this summer is to you know, take demos and tournament

1384
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 4: to records and put out, to put something out, you know,

1385
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 4: maybe by the end of the year. That's a statement

1386
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 4: of the music I like to make without caring if

1387
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 4: anybody likes it.

1388
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 3: Oh dude, I love that. I think that's great. Man. Oh,

1389
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 3: we got to do a big release. Oh come on,

1390
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 3: this will be fun.

1391
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I still got to put the details together,

1392
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 4: but yes, we'll certainly. The nice thing is I got

1393
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 4: a you know, a radio show every Saturday. They can

1394
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 4: promote the music.

1395
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: There we go, Oh my god, in and out of

1396
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: every break man, we'll play snip it of it?

1397
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

1398
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 4: I love something like I got to write something that's

1399
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 4: at least somewhat happy so that we can play it.

1400
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 3: That's a ol man. Would you have someone do the vocals?

1401
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: No, I'm singing it, man, like I I so fun. Fact,

1402
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 4: long before I uh made it in the band, whatever

1403
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 4: made it means I long before that. When I first

1404
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 4: moved to Nashville, it was like I wasn't playing fiddle.

1405
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 4: I was, and like still, I.

1406
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 3: Didn't know that.

1407
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: I know you're, you know, Juilliard trained, so I just

1408
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: figured you. You know, I didn't know that you had

1409
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: the vocals too. Yeah, you got all kinds of bill

1410
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: you're you're multi talented.

1411
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 4: But you know, some demos, I'll send you some demos

1412
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 4: I did last summer. But you know, like, yes, it's fun,

1413
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 4: like I I like writing you know, depressing power ballads

1414
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 4: and uh, you know eighties rock. I don't know, like

1415
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 4: the bud is still in. That's totally cool. Yeah, I

1416
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 4: know there's one. I think the the other the other side,

1417
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 4: and I may not have time to do both this summer,

1418
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 4: but at some point I'm gonna do like some duets

1419
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 4: with with some of the you know, famous friends. Humble brag,

1420
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 4: but like, I'm lucky enough to have interacted with some

1421
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 4: some people that you know, I'm still friends with that

1422
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 4: large and wildly successful, So I'm gonna I'm gonna pull

1423
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 4: them in to appear on some stuff. So you know

1424
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 4: that that only ties me back to bon Jovi, because

1425
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 4: you know, a few years ago I became buddies with

1426
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 4: Richie Sambora and so like it's one of those things

1427
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 4: where it's like it's a life goal to you know,

1428
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 4: do other artists songs like his covers, but where their

1429
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 4: duets like I'll sing a little, you sing a little,

1430
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 4: and we'll play on this together. So I'm gonna do that,

1431
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 4: I think with people I toured with and people I'm

1432
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 4: friends with, like that's I think that'll also help make

1433
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 4: the project more popular. Let's be honest.

1434
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 2: So you know that's it's aw, that's a great idea. Yeah,

1435
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 2: I think that's brilliant, man, I'll be honest. I think

1436
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: it's really cool.

1437
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: Well, you know, music, music coming at some point, but

1438
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 4: right now, Ryan's out there and uh and check it

1439
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 4: out because, like I said, there are so many people

1440
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 4: in this business that you know, aren't necessarily in it

1441
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 4: for the right things or the right reasons and or

1442
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 4: just suck. And Ryan Ryan is a great dude and

1443
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 4: his as it happens to be badass. So you know

1444
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 4: that's a that's a rare combination.

1445
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 3: I love that.

1446
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 2: No, I love that listen as fell as fellow as

1447
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: a fellow creative.

1448
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 4: You need.

1449
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 2: It's so funny. I try to explain this to people,

1450
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 2: like you need to do it. MI craft is writing,

1451
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: right so and storytelling. So you just need to do it.

1452
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: And you got into it not to become a star,

1453
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: right because first of all, I'm more foul than anything else.

1454
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 3: But you get into it because this is what you do.

1455
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 2: You just love to do it, and like you love

1456
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: to create music. I mean, this is what you've done

1457
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: since you were a child. It's not about stardom or

1458
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: you know, money or whatever. It's just about that's what

1459
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: you do.

1460
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 4: You love I think to like so much of as you.

1461
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 4: As you grow up, you have the idealistic concepts on everything.

1462
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 4: And this is the same for athletes. If you talk

1463
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 4: to football players will tell you the thing. You have

1464
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 4: this concept of what it's like to be a quarterback

1465
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 4: in the NFL. You have a concept of what it's

1466
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 4: like to tour in a band, and you have a

1467
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 4: concept of what it's like to make music. But the

1468
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 4: funny thing is you wake up one day and you

1469
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 4: realize that most of those concepts were compromised. And by

1470
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 4: that I mean like you start to well, no, we

1471
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 4: can do this and if that's what the label wants

1472
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 4: us to do, we'll do that. And that's sort of

1473
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 4: what life and music is about. It's about you know,

1474
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 4: you're constantly making compromises because that's what's important for your career.

1475
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 4: But then you wake up later and you're like, man,

1476
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 4: I really wish I'd done this, or I really wish

1477
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 4: I'd recorded that. And that's one of the interesting things

1478
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 4: that the beautiful thing that I'm really thankful for is that,

1479
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 4: you know, I pay my bills talking about sports, so

1480
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,560
Speaker 4: if I go in the studio, I don't have to

1481
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 4: give a damn about what anybody else wants. I can

1482
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 4: just make music I want to make, you know. And

1483
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 4: like it's so often for people to get where you

1484
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 4: want to be, you compromise so much that you don't

1485
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 4: just get to do what you want to do.

1486
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: God, listen, you're you're you're one hundred right, I mean

1487
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,520
Speaker 2: you have to as you're doing it, you're you're cognizant

1488
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 2: on the commercial piece of it, so that will afford you.

1489
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 3: To keep doing it.

1490
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 4: Yep.

1491
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 3: The whole point is like the next gig. You got

1492
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 3: to get to the next gig.

1493
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 4: Yep.

1494
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1495
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,839
Speaker 2: In fact, where the fella is right here on Fox

1496
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

1497
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1498
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,000
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1499
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Speaker 2: good morning. It's seven am and the East four M

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Speaker 2: and O West on day three of the tournament. Fellas,

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Speaker 2: should be. Hey, one of the things I love about

1507
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: the tournament is the UH. They have a great I

1508
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 2: just love the coverage and fitsy. I love the the

1509
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: analysts and you know, having the TNT guys is the best,

1510
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 2: right because Barkley, it's the greatest. So last night last

1511
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 2: night I wanted to forget what game what goes the halftime?

1512
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: I think it was the UH.

1513
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 4: I think it was Illinois Xavier. Is that the game

1514
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 4: that well?

1515
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you saw it going. It's the greatest, right.

1516
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: So Ernie comes out and he goes to Charles, all right,

1517
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on the first half? And Charles

1518
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: is completely like not paying attention, and he goes, that's

1519
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 2: a good question, and then they start at him, Well, yeah,

1520
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 2: that's his job, like you know what you're thinking of

1521
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: first half and then finally he goes and he's fumbling,

1522
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: he's trying to look at stats and he's looking around

1523
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: and he just goes. You know what, I don't know.

1524
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't watching that game. I was watching the Bryant

1525
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: Michigan State game. So I don't know, ask Kenny.

1526
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 4: I loved every ounce of that, Like I think, what

1527
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 4: makes them great? And there's such a fine line here

1528
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 4: what makes them great? Does that feel so real? You know?

1529
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 4: And like the hard part about that is if you

1530
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 4: don't have that relationship with the audience, you can't do

1531
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 4: that right. Like there are plenty of shows. I've hosted shows.

1532
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 4: I've hosted halftime raps before for college basketball and college

1533
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 4: football for ESPN at the time. And if nobody knows

1534
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: who you are and you say that, oh, you're gonna

1535
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 4: get destroyed. But if you've built your whole sort of

1536
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 4: content on being that version of a group, and that's

1537
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 4: what makes these groups so special. I mean, I mean,

1538
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 4: Shaq got the coach of the Pistons wrong last week,

1539
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 4: and you know when they when they started making fun

1540
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 4: of him, he flat out of mystic admitted I don't

1541
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 4: watch a lot of the Pistons, And it's just funny

1542
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 4: because you know, plenty of analysts do the same thing.

1543
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 4: They get destroyed for it. But when you have the cachet,

1544
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 4: the equity with your audience, it's just feels so real. Man.

1545
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 4: I loved every ounce that was cracking me up. At

1546
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 4: the end of the night, they were signing off and

1547
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 4: they were throwing to whatever Anthony Davis's new show is.

1548
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 4: That's I could take on in Practical Jokers, and Ernie

1549
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 4: did the same thing and was like through to the guys,

1550
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 4: and Charles was like, I don't know, I never really

1551
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 4: thought Anthony was that kind of a funny guy. And

1552
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 4: they did the exact opposite of what they're supposed to do.

1553
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 4: They didn't. They didn't, you know, tee this thing up.

1554
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, this is gonna be amazing hystorical. You

1555
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 4: have to watch it. Instead, you just sort of sat

1556
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 4: there and you're like, I appreciate the fact that they're

1557
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 4: telling you. I don't even know if this is gonna

1558
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 4: be good, Like, I love.

1559
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: That, dude.

1560
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,839
Speaker 2: It's spot on. You know what, there's no pretense because

1561
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 2: here's the problem with a lot of analysts do right.

1562
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 2: And you know what, and early in my career I

1563
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: did the same thing, Like I felt like I needed

1564
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: to have this grandiose, expert opinion on everything, and it's impossible, right,

1565
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: It's impossible to have a grandiose opinion that's educated, well

1566
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 2: thought out on everything. Now, last night was great because

1567
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: you know, he's supposed to be watching exact game and

1568
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 2: he just wanders off his mind.

1569
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 3: But like the.

1570
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 2: Greatest thing I think the audience always appreciates is like this,

1571
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 2: being forthright and honest like this, I feel like I

1572
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 2: just give you what I'm saying. I could be way wrong,

1573
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 2: and you know I've been wrong before, but this is

1574
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: where I'm coming from, showing in my works. It's coming

1575
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: from a place of preparedness and a place of you know,

1576
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 2: historical knowledge, right, Like you know, it doesn't mean it's

1577
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 2: going to be all the point or earth shattering, but

1578
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 2: this is what it is. Charles is just like, yeah, dude,

1579
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: Like I was watching the other gate. I think that's

1580
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: that's I touxted him last night because we go back

1581
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: from our Philly days, and uh, I texted last night,

1582
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 2: I go, dude. He started laughing. He gave me to

1583
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 2: laughing emojis. He's like, yeah, great stuff. I go, dude,

1584
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 2: that's why you're to go, man, You're to go because

1585
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: of that, you know, that's it, because you just.

1586
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 3: Are so like, you know, unfiltered is the best way

1587
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 3: to puy it.

1588
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's part of why I enjoyed

1589
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 4: doing radio with you, is like The Fellas doesn't try

1590
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 4: to be anything other than what the Fellas is. And

1591
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 4: that's the toughest thing for everybody, because, especially in a

1592
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 4: Twitter society, your mistakes are amplified and whenever you say something,

1593
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 4: you mispronounce a name. You know, I was working with

1594
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 4: somebody that erroneously said Janni instead of Jani Broom, said

1595
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 4: Johnny Broom and you would have thought that he went

1596
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 4: out on Twitter and said your grandma's fat and ugly.

1597
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 4: Like just the reaction to that, Like, you make any

1598
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 4: mistake for most people in this business, and it gets

1599
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 4: so amplified by everybody that suddenly thinks that means you're

1600
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 4: more on and I think it causes a lot of

1601
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 4: people to sort of get in the shell and try

1602
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 4: and be something they're not, you know, And realistically, the

1603
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 4: best sports conversations to me have always been when you

1604
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 4: feel like you're listening to buddies hang out and talk

1605
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 4: like that's what That's what has made podcasting such an

1606
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 4: important part of, you know, the new society that we

1607
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 4: live in. I think the best sports talk shows are

1608
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 4: are buddies hanging out. I think the best podcasts feel

1609
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 4: like they're buddies hanging out, whether they're talking about movies,

1610
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 4: true crime, or sports like. That's that's the vibe of

1611
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,919
Speaker 4: modern media and that's what the TNT guys do so perfectly.

1612
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 4: Like Ernie's approach is so brilliant because he calls out

1613
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 4: the stupidity, but also he runs point in a really

1614
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 4: casual way that makes everybody feel like they're in his

1615
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 4: living room. And you know the rest of them are

1616
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 4: all just caricatures of themselves in a very real and

1617
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 4: absorbable way. It's what you do well on Like from

1618
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 4: the first show I ever did with the Fellas, I

1619
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 4: walked away from it and said, Man, what's nice about

1620
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 4: this is it's it's a vibe because it's just trying

1621
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 4: to be what it is, and that's I think that's

1622
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 4: a beautiful thing that more people need to do. Like

1623
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 4: it what nowadays, if you if you are a person

1624
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 4: that does Like if you're me and you don't really

1625
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 4: sit around in a suit and tie every day. If

1626
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 4: you try and be buttoned up suit and tie, guy,

1627
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 4: it's just not gonna work. Like people will see right

1628
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: through it.

1629
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 2: And here's the truth of the matter, right, the truly

1630
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: matter is we may talk. We may you know, we're

1631
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 2: gonna throw in the core of the show. We may

1632
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 2: talk about whatever NFL team, Right, I don't know what

1633
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 2: to take the bills. Well, I'm not gonna sit here

1634
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 2: and tell you I know more about the bills than

1635
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 2: fans in Buffalo listening to the show like we're on

1636
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: in Buffalo, and I may get something wrong, Like you

1637
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: know your team better than I do.

1638
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 3: I may know the coach is a friend of mine.

1639
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 2: I may know certain things, and we may have opinions

1640
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 2: you and I on certain moves. But ultimately, like you

1641
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: guys are gonna know, we're not trying to tell you

1642
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 2: that we know you know more than you do about

1643
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: your team. I think that's you got to have respect

1644
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 2: for the fans that in that manner too, And I

1645
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: think you have that. Like we we try to do

1646
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 2: our homework and we love it, like to me, it's

1647
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 2: always been a gift, like being able to watch sports

1648
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: for a living, and you know, talk about it is

1649
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 2: the greatest gift in the world, because truthfully, I love it.

1650
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's still it's my hobby. I get it.

1651
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 3: I'm sure you get this too.

1652
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 2: I get it all the time where people go, We'll

1653
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 2: come up and talk to me and they'll start talking sports,

1654
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 2: and then five minutes into the conversation they go, oh,

1655
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're probably sick of it, and I'm like, oh,

1656
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'll be honest with you, I'm not sick

1657
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 2: of it. It's my hobby, you know. I mean, it's

1658
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: what it's what I love to do. I love talking

1659
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: about it. It's gifts and there's nothing else you want

1660
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 2: to talk to me about because that's all I know.

1661
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 4: And I think part of you know, where where we

1662
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 4: sit on air, and where a lot of people sit

1663
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 4: on air now is the question is can you see

1664
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,799
Speaker 4: the picture a little differently? Do you have interesting angles

1665
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 4: on things? Like do you do you can you find

1666
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 4: interesting talking points like that's that's more the job ninety

1667
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 4: nine percent of the time than it is. You know,

1668
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,600
Speaker 4: Can I sit here and analyze the where, how, and

1669
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 4: why of every you know, motion of somebody's foot in

1670
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 4: that position, like why did that play breakdown? Why did

1671
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 4: that play breakdown? And that's why. You know what, if

1672
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,839
Speaker 4: you're working with analysts, you let them, you let them

1673
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 4: run that point and do a lot of that work.

1674
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 4: But for so much of the conversation now it's it's

1675
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 4: a fine line, you know, between having an analyst and

1676
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 4: then having somebody that just is here to drive an

1677
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 4: interesting conversation. Totally different skill set in my opinion, Like

1678
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 4: it's totally different skill set to sit back and say,

1679
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 4: can we have an interesting conversation about where college basketball

1680
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 4: is today? Or you know what we think of like

1681
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 4: why Auburn is falling apart? You know things like that,

1682
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 4: not that Auburn's falling apart, you know what I mean?

1683
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 4: Can we have those interesting conversations? Becomes far more of

1684
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 4: what happens and TNT finds the perfect blend, like you know,

1685
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 4: Shaq and Charles and all the guys. The reason that

1686
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 4: there's such an entertain they're part sitcom, they're part drama,

1687
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 4: they're part reality show, and the backdrop happens to be sports.

1688
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, nailed it, nailed it. Uh,

1689
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 2: all right, let's get back to the games that are

1690
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 2: going to be played this weekend.

1691
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 3: We were almost through the night games.

1692
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 2: And uh for today, so well, last we left off,

1693
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 2: we were talking about BYU in Wisconsin, the last two

1694
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 2: matchups of the day, and don't get to tomorrow. Gonzaga

1695
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 2: and Houston here we go. This is, Uh, everybody in

1696
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: love with the Zags. Everybody's now, that's funny. This is

1697
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 2: a game where I don't know if you're hearing the

1698
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: same thing I'm here. Everybody get Zaka Kanzaka Yanzaga. And

1699
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 2: I think Houston's not getting Houston's good and I don't

1700
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 2: think they're getting the respect they deserve.

1701
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 4: I think from the outset of this tournament, we got

1702
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 4: so obsessed with Florida deserving I think a higher seed.

1703
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 4: What's going on with Auburn and Cooper Flag that we

1704
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 4: forgot that Houston is just this is not the same

1705
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 4: Houston that was the number one seed three years in

1706
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 4: a row. Like this is a Houston team that we

1707
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 4: talk about complimentary football all the time. This is complimentary

1708
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 4: basketball Houston team, Like they can score all day, every day,

1709
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 4: and they can defend so like this is. I think Houston,

1710
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 4: of all the top ones and twos, I don't think

1711
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 4: there's a team that's been more undervalued for what they

1712
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 4: actually are than Houston. So I know Gonzaga came in

1713
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 4: with a big first round win. This Gonzaga team maybe

1714
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 4: not on the same level as some of the prior

1715
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 4: Gonzaga teams. This Houston team is. I think Houston is

1716
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 4: about to run through them. And I think Houston's about

1717
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 4: to run through their bracket like we are sleeping just

1718
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 4: how good Houston is.

1719
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I'm with you.

1720
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 4: Man.

1721
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: It's funny because I was taught everybody was talking about

1722
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 2: gonzagaing I love Kenzaggi. I was doing this exercise yesterday

1723
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:01,839
Speaker 2: and every boy Gonzaga and zagagain and I go, yeah,

1724
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 2: all right, like I get it. And it looked good first,

1725
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 2: you know, in the first round. But Houston's a different beast.

1726
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,759
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you. For some reason, Houston's getting

1727
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 2: slept on.

1728
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. And part of what happens here too is we

1729
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 4: love what we're used to in the tournament. So seeing

1730
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 4: Gonzaga come out and look like a version that we've

1731
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 4: seen over the last several years and immediately there's this association, well,

1732
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 4: this is just what Gonzaga does not this year kind of.

1733
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I watched every minute of that Yukon game

1734
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,799
Speaker 4: last night and cannot say this loud enough. I've watched

1735
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 4: a ton of basketball living in Connecticut. This Yukon team

1736
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 4: is a shell of what the last two years were.

1737
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 4: And I know that they went in with championship DNA

1738
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 4: and they won this game, you know, an ugly basketball game.

1739
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 4: That does not make them the Yukon of the last

1740
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 4: several years. Like Gonzaga went into a first round matchup

1741
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 4: and won, That does not make them the Gonzaga that

1742
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 4: we've seen just absolutely run through tournament year and in

1743
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 4: year out. So I think what happens is particularly like,

1744
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 4: come on, I mean, in an honest moment, how much

1745
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 4: late night West Coast basketball or most of us watching,

1746
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 4: especially through the time that you and I talk about

1747
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 4: pretty honestly, ain't nobody caring about college basketball? Like November, December, January.

1748
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 4: I love the sport, and you know, the hardest thing

1749
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 4: about our jobs in general is you know, trying to

1750
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 4: cram as much college basketball as you can after the

1751
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, because that's what everybody's doing like you only

1752
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 4: have so much equity. So when you've only watched a

1753
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,759
Speaker 4: little Gonzaga and then you see him in the tournament

1754
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 4: look like the Gonzaga old, it's easy to just say, oh, yeah,

1755
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 4: this is Sagas team. They can beat anybody. No, I

1756
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 4: don't think they can. I don't. Frankly, I think Houston's

1757
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 4: gonna run them. I don't. I don't think that's going

1758
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 4: to be a close basketball game tonight.

1759
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with your brother, I'm with you. I'm thinking

1760
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: the same thing.

1761
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 3: All right. This is one you gotta explain to me.

1762
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 2: Because I've slept on Ucla, so I didn't think they're

1763
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: very good.

1764
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,440
Speaker 3: They're playing Tennessee.

1765
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 2: Tonight and Tennessee's only five and a half, And I

1766
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 2: don't know why they're only five and a half because

1767
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 2: I think they should destroy Ucla.

1768
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: But you tell me.

1769
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 4: Preach. I mean, my first thought when I saw that

1770
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 4: was what am I missing about Ucla? That was genuinely

1771
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 4: my first thought. You see, it's good, you see, LEI,

1772
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 4: it's a good basketball team this year. But a part

1773
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 4: of this comes down to Tennessee has had some inconsistent

1774
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 4: moments here and there, and people want to use that

1775
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 4: as a Tennessee in the tournament finds a way to

1776
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 4: fall apart like tennant balls fans. I can already hear

1777
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 4: them saying, well, it's the tournament. Is what happens every year. Again, Like,

1778
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 4: we can't use, we can't necessarily make these blanket statements

1779
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:52,759
Speaker 4: about past years in this year's situation, I think Tennessee

1780
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 4: is clearly more talented. Tennessee should be able to handle this,

1781
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 4: and Tennessee should be able to pace this. So, like,

1782
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 4: I don't know, I like Tennessee a lot in this game,

1783
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,759
Speaker 4: and frankly, I think there's a real chance for Tennessee

1784
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 4: to just roll Tennessee. The matchup I'm looking forward to.

1785
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to wait for Houston tenn Like when

1786
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 4: we get to Houston Tennessee, which is what I think

1787
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 4: we're gonna get. Now, that's a game that I have

1788
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 4: no idea how it's gonna play out, and that's gonna

1789
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 4: be awesome. But yes, I just I feel like I

1790
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 4: think I think we're sleeping on the balls here, Yeah.

1791
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 2: Man, I yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes I

1792
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 2: think this.

1793
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 3: Say they're nasty, man, They're a good team.

1794
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing about these these one to two seeds,

1795
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 2: they're really good. Like what you said it, once we

1796
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 2: get to the sixteen and then eight, I think like

1797
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be great games and they're gonna be

1798
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 2: coin tosses.

1799
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think across the board the matchups that are

1800
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 4: gonna be the most interesting to me at this point,

1801
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 4: if you just look at the way that bracket has

1802
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 4: broken down, I think the really intriguing games become the

1803
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 4: three six matchups Like Kentucky Illinois is I think that's

1804
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 4: a tough matchup. We talked about Wisconsin BYU.

1805
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 3: That's a tough matchup.

1806
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 4: Iowa Stable miss That's a tough matchup. Those are opportunities

1807
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,719
Speaker 4: to me to maybe see a six seed do some damage.

1808
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 4: But I just I continue to think, like we're looking

1809
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 4: at the way I look at this tournament. The ones

1810
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 4: in the twos are in their own division, and then

1811
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 4: there's a moat from ones and twos to three, four, five.

1812
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 4: Like I would bunch a lot of the three through

1813
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 4: sixes together. I think there's sort of there's a lot

1814
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 4: of comparable basketball teams there. But man, the ones and

1815
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 4: twos sit on a different line from me this year,

1816
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 4: and you know it's boring to go like this is

1817
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 4: where our minds say, well, you know you got to

1818
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 4: take and look in the first round, it was true,

1819
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 4: like if you took the twelves over the fives, you

1820
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 4: did pretty well, right like that, That's that's the truth.

1821
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 4: But man, we sometimes we just get cute with the

1822
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 4: brackets because we know the brackets are gonna have wild outcomes.

1823
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 4: And man, I just think I think the ones and

1824
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 4: twos in this tournament are are gonna be safe for

1825
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 4: a while.

1826
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too.

1827
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:16,759
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a look at tomorrow slate. So tomorrow,

1828
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 2: speaking of the ones, and this is a game you

1829
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 2: brought up, Yukon. I think Florida annihilates Yukon to marrow,

1830
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 2: like I think game. I don't think Yukon can can

1831
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 2: stack up and hold up against his Florida team.

1832
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to give Alex Caravan some credit from Yukon.

1833
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,560
Speaker 4: I've been tough on him this year for not necessarily,

1834
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 4: he hasn't had the best year and he's supposed to

1835
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 4: be the leader of this team and he's had his

1836
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 4: own shooting problems. He was not good. Like, by the way,

1837
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 4: if you didn't if you slept during the connect the

1838
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,679
Speaker 4: Yukon game last night, congratulations, because that was an ugly

1839
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 4: basketball game. Yeah, but when they needed late, when they

1840
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 4: needed a three, when they needed a rebound, and when

1841
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 4: they needed a block, all three of those things Alex

1842
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 4: Caravan did in the last four minutes of that game,

1843
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 4: and they were difference makers. But that was an ugly

1844
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 4: Yukon game. And they Yukon does not shoot consistently unless

1845
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 4: they are wildly hot. This isn't even competitive. And I'm

1846
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 4: with you, like, I love the way you said that,

1847
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,839
Speaker 4: because if you'd asked me, I'd have said, yeah, Florida

1848
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 4: by twenty the two time defending national champions are about

1849
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 4: to get just wiped. And I believe that now. I

1850
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 4: also think if Florida had a coach with a longer resume,

1851
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 4: we would be giving Florida a lot of credit here,

1852
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 4: and we're not yet. That's going to be built this year.

1853
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,719
Speaker 4: So I understand people are going to say, well, Hurley, Hurley, Hurley,

1854
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 4: he's a great coach, but man, he does not this year.

1855
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 4: He does not have the cars in the garage to

1856
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 4: be ready for this race.

1857
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 3: Like, no, it's not that far.

1858
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: Now you look at the matchup, and the matchup is

1859
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 2: just not it's not there.

1860
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 4: This is We're just gonna swallow up care Man and

1861
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 4: McNeely both.

1862
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're horrible. It's a horrible matchup. Like Florida is

1863
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 2: really really good and this isn't the this is Listen,

1864
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:14,919
Speaker 2: you kind of had two great seasons, like two great runs.

1865
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 2: This Florida team is really strong, and they just don't

1866
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 2: match up. I don't see any way they keep it close.

1867
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 2: I don't championship DNA or not. I don't see anybody

1868
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 2: to keep it close. All right, we're gonna take quick too.

1869
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 2: We'll come back, continue to go through around the league,

1870
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 2: around the games tomorrow, and then I'm gonna go around

1871
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 2: the NFL a little bit and talk about some of

1872
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 2: the rule changes the proposed see if you like them.

1873
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,120
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh yesterday. Lee's without a deal, but

1895
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:15,280
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1896
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of the only spot left that

1897
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 4: makes sense, right, I mean, we get the corresponding move

1898
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 4: the Giants bringing Jamis, which I think we all agree

1899
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 4: doesn't prevent the Giants from doing anything else for the offseason,

1900
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 4: like they can still draft quarterbacks should one fall. But

1901
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 4: once the Vikings made it clear that they're not currently

1902
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 4: interested in Aaron Rodgers, and I think that that pretty

1903
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 4: much closed that door now should be pointed out until

1904
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 4: the Vikings actually add a veteran in that room. I

1905
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 4: don't think anything's off the table, but we got to

1906
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 4: be honest. If we're looking around and for Aaron Rodgers,

1907
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 4: you got to look around and say, okay, you know

1908
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 4: where's left that I can play. I just think it

1909
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:03,599
Speaker 4: becomes truly, truly interesting because Aaron Rodgers just wasn't great

1910
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 4: last year. And I even take take whatever anybody's opinion

1911
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 4: of Aaron Rodgers is and set it to the side

1912
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 4: for a second. Go back and look some of those games.

1913
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 4: I mean, he was bad. I mean we're not talking

1914
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 4: about the version of Aaron Rodgers that we're used to now.

1915
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 4: He did have a couple of nice games down the stretch,

1916
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 4: So maybe the argument is more removed from the Achilles injury.

1917
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,919
Speaker 4: He's going to have a better chance at being himself.

1918
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 4: But I think, to me, frankly, the Steelers marriage is

1919
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 4: all about no other options for anybody. This is like

1920
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 4: when you're teamed up for a science project, and everybody

1921
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 4: understands you don't want me on your science project, not

1922
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 4: not going to be any good. And by the time

1923
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 4: you walk through the room and you're like, well, I

1924
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 4: guess we're stuck with each other, right, That's how That's

1925
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 4: how Anthony and I end up stuck together on a

1926
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 4: science project. He knows I'm not a great partner. I

1927
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 4: know he's not a great partner. But we're gonna do

1928
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 4: science together. That's what That's what's happening right here. So

1929
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 4: you know, the Steelers are looking around saying, well, musical

1930
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 4: chairs have pretty much ended, and we don't have a quarterback.

1931
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 4: And frankly, I don't think that there's going to be

1932
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 4: a quarterback available where they picking the draft. I think,

1933
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 4: off the top of my head it's twenty first. There's

1934
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 4: not a quarterback there that they want to start day one,

1935
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 4: so they need somebody. And Aaron Rodgers is looking around saying, well,

1936
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 4: if the Vikings aren't going to let me start for them,

1937
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 4: this is far and away the best opportunity I'm going

1938
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 4: to have to get to start for a little bit.

1939
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 4: So that's it's a marriage of necessity.

1940
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 3: I agree, That's that's it. That's it. Now, meanwhile, the

1941
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 3: music stops and Russ has no share.

1942
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean I've had people tell me flat

1943
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,680
Speaker 4: out that that are very familiar with Arthur Smith tell

1944
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 4: me flat out Arthur doesn't want to coach Russ this year.

1945
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 4: So you know, I mean, if you're Russ, you're looking around,

1946
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 4: especially you got passed up for Jamis like this is

1947
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's going to have some opportunity to go

1948
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 4: somewhere and maybe be a backup or compete for something.

1949
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 4: But man, I just it's also everybody I've talked to

1950
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 4: is said very clearly the Titans have no interest in

1951
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 4: bringing him in, even if that means, you know, starting

1952
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 4: cam Ward day one. So I man, I think Russ

1953
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 4: is sort of left on the outside looking in. And

1954
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 4: this is that moment where the Raiders deciding not to

1955
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 4: go with Russ again, I mean, for being fair here,

1956
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll has now passed on Russ twice, right. Sean Payton,

1957
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 4: who's supposed to be just the quarterback guru, thought so

1958
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 4: little of Russ that he was willing to destroy his

1959
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 4: team's salary cap to get rid of him. And now

1960
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin, who is the coach that can handle anything.

1961
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 4: Seems to be done with him. So this isn't this

1962
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 4: isn't Wow. Three bad organizations have given up on Russ.

1963
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 4: This is three Hall of Fame caliber head coaches that

1964
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 4: have all said, now I'm good without him. That to

1965
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 4: me has tremendous meaning.

1966
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 2: Dude, when you watch him, he's done. I mean he

1967
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything. I mean you saw it for a blip.

1968
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 2: It looked a little differently because Justin Fields didn't go

1969
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 2: down the field.

1970
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 3: But those moon balls. That doesn't work. He doesn't move.

1971
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,600
Speaker 2: For him to be great, like or to be successful,

1972
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 2: not great. For him to be successful, he's got to

1973
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 2: be able to move, and he can't move anymore.

1974
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 3: I think it's as simple as that.

1975
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 2: He's small, and that's always been a challenge for him.

1976
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 2: But before he was able to move and find windows

1977
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 2: and throwing lanes. But now he can't do that. That's it, Like,

1978
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: you need a great offensive line and you need to

1979
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,519
Speaker 2: be able to move a little bit because he's still small.

1980
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 4: You also, Anthony, we all know this. At some point,

1981
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 4: when your talent isn't what it needs to be to

1982
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 4: win at the highest level, the way you keep working

1983
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 4: is if everybody loves being around you. Yeah, Jameis Winston

1984
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 4: is gonna he if he's for the Giants, he's gonna

1985
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 4: throw a bunch of interceptions, right, Like, we all know

1986
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 4: that he's gonna have up and down moments and they're

1987
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 4: gonna be frustrated. We all know that, but we also

1988
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 4: know definitively at this point they love him. Locker rooms

1989
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 4: love him.

1990
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1991
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 4: Like, and you want to tell me the Giants aren't

1992
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 4: looking around saying, man, this is a guy for all

1993
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 4: of his deficiencies as a player. You want a quarterback

1994
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:24,759
Speaker 4: in the room that's going to build up your other guys.

1995
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 4: That's gonna gonna be the right type of mentor that's

1996
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 4: also going to bring the right vibe to the locker room. Like, look,

1997
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 4: I the closer we get to the draft, the more

1998
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 4: I don't believe there's going to be a quarterback left

1999
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 4: at three for the Giants. But if we're being real,

2000
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,719
Speaker 4: I'd be comfortable bringing in Shadeur to learn under Jamis

2001
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 4: for a year obviously, Like I I think if they

2002
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 4: if he gets beat out, he gets beat out, But

2003
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 4: you know that he is going to be a positive

2004
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 4: impact on the locker room. How many teams have to

2005
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 4: give up on Russ, not just a quarterback, but Russ

2006
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 4: the human being before we realize that whatever we think

2007
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 4: of him from the outside of a locker room, it

2008
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 4: is clear that inside locker rooms he does not bring

2009
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 4: people together. That's clear.

2010
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, can I ask you a question about you brought Shador.

2011
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,480
Speaker 2: I did all the tape study for all the quarterbacks

2012
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 2: with Baldy. I don't like, there's nothing I like about him.

2013
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:29,799
Speaker 4: That's so again, I'll go back. Charles Robinson with Yahoo

2014
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 4: said to me two weeks ago, He's going to be

2015
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 4: the most interesting draft we've seen since Aaron Rodgers. Because

2016
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 4: there are people that you talk to around the league

2017
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 4: that believe that Shador is a first round talent, and

2018
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 4: there are people around the league that believe he's the

2019
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 4: third round talent. And for fans that listen to that

2020
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 4: and say, well, we have this every year, we don't,

2021
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 4: I promise you. Like when Will Levis was rising because

2022
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 4: some people said that he was going to be a

2023
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 4: first day prospect, I hit up everybody I knew that

2024
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 4: was smart, and I said, hey, is this real with Will?

2025
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 4: Every single person told me, no, No, Will Levis is

2026
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 4: not a first day prospect. And when bow Nick started

2027
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 4: to rise last year and we started to hear Bo

2028
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 4: was going to go early first round, I reached out

2029
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 4: to everybody I could and said, Hey, is this real?

2030
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 4: And I got the answer yes. If you actually surround

2031
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 4: yourself with smart people that do a good job breaking

2032
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 4: down the draft, I think you can get a really

2033
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 4: good indication of the range somebody's going to go in.

2034
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,799
Speaker 4: I've been covering the draft for ESPN and now Yahoo

2035
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 4: for eight years. I don't remember ever talking to people

2036
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 4: and hearing this wide of a range on somebody like

2037
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 4: shit tour. And it's funny to me because I believe

2038
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 4: he's going to go second to the Browns because the

2039
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 4: Browns have no other option. They have to take a quarterback. Financially,

2040
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 4: they don't have anybody that they can come in and

2041
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 4: even compete. And I think that's a stupid reason to

2042
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 4: take a quarterback. I think if you take it, I

2043
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 4: know we all think you have to have a quarterback

2044
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 4: to win. We all know that. But brother, if you

2045
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 4: take it a quarterback in the top ten and he's

2046
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:05,720
Speaker 4: not your franchise, you've set your franchise back years and

2047
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 4: and you've wasted a top ten pick. Like that's a

2048
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 4: prime position.

2049
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 2: They can't. But here's the thing with the Browns. They

2050
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 2: can't take Shador. You can't roll the dice like that

2051
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 2: after the whole Deshaun Watson fiasco. You can't do it

2052
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 2: like you can't take Shador standards. He's too big of

2053
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 2: forget about my untrained eye, right, I just go.

2054
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 3: Not a lot that I like that, right. I think

2055
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 3: he's a pocket.

2056
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:43,639
Speaker 2: You know, he's a pocket quarterback with an okay arm,

2057
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 2: Like his arm doesn't pop.

2058
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:47,679
Speaker 3: He doesn't have a great whip.

2059
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 2: I don't see great you know footwork like all right,

2060
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 2: maybe down the line gets coaching and you know, he's big,

2061
01:49:56,600 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: he's got a decent he's a decent athlete obviously, but

2062
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't see it. And I like to

2063
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,679
Speaker 2: take a risk like cam Ward.

2064
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 3: I would. I would.

2065
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 2: I think cam Ward can be a quarterback, like I

2066
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 2: think he could play in this league. But man, I

2067
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 2: think Shador is a huge, huge risk. I wouldn't go

2068
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 2: anywhere near him. And if I'm the Browns, no way,

2069
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 2: not after I not after I set my franchise back

2070
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 2: with Deshaun Watson. If I do the same thing and

2071
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, he's too big or big of a risk,

2072
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 2: and I'm wrong with Sanders.

2073
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 4: I'm stuck, especially if you're passing them because look at

2074
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,799
Speaker 4: the money that has now gone out to Miles Garrett

2075
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,720
Speaker 4: and Max Crosby. Look at the money that they're expecting.

2076
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,080
Speaker 4: Talk to somebody last week that said, you know, we

2077
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 4: all know that Micah wants to be the highest paid

2078
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 4: non quarterback in the NFL. He made that clear. Well

2079
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 4: that number has changed drastically in the last three weeks. Right,

2080
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 4: So that number is now forty five forty seven million,

2081
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 4: right like for Micah for edge rushers. And then I

2082
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 4: look at Abduall Carter in this year's draft. Here I

2083
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 4: think is you know, he's clearly to me like Abdul

2084
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 4: Carter and Travis Hunter are the top two prospects in

2085
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 4: my mind, and I would take Abdul Carter first if

2086
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 4: I if I was a child of the team. But

2087
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 4: you also got to you got to hit on that

2088
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 4: because at some point, edge rushers are going to price

2089
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 4: themselves out of the current market and you're going to

2090
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 4: have the same conversation got to win with a rookie

2091
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 4: quarterback contract, Well, you're gonna get to that position with

2092
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:35,639
Speaker 4: almost everybody. Now, we've got to win. While you got

2093
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 4: an edge rusher on a rookie contract, that's that's gonna

2094
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 4: be real. It's part of it is what you're passing on.

2095
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 4: And the problem is the Browns only quarterback option right

2096
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,799
Speaker 4: now is Kenny Pickett. Like, they don't have a quarterback

2097
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 4: on the rockster. So what are you going to do

2098
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:54,719
Speaker 4: if you don't draft a quarterback? And then if you think,

2099
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 4: I guess you could look at it and say, well,

2100
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 4: we'll wait to the top of the second round and

2101
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 4: hope that you know Jalen Molroja and Dart is there.

2102
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 4: But both of those like those.

2103
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 2: Types of prospects, to me, I think dark it winds

2104
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 2: up going to the top ten.

2105
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 4: You're not wrong. The number of people I've talked to

2106
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 4: that have said top ten for Jackson Dart in the

2107
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks is pretty staggering. So Jackson Jackson

2108
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 4: Dart is absolutely rising. So what I mean now we're

2109
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 4: talking Jalen Milroe, Quinn, yours like.

2110
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 3: My boy man, what about my boy Kyle? Second round?

2111
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 4: Sure I would I would take any of those quarterbacks

2112
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 4: you mentioned if I get the opportunity to sit them

2113
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 4: for a year or two and really develop them.

2114
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

2115
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's what a lot of these teams.

2116
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:51,440
Speaker 4: The smartest thing for the Giants, the Jets, the Raiders,

2117
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 4: the Browns to do would be to take one of

2118
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks at the top of the second round. That's

2119
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 4: more of a development pick, and then get your guy.

2120
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 2: Really, those guys should be going third and fourth round,

2121
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 2: but because they're they're the position and the dearth of

2122
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 2: them they now they get moved up to the.

2123
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 3: Top of the second coming up. I got a name.

2124
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,679
Speaker 3: I do have a name for you that I'm shocked.

2125
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 2: If I was one of these teams, I would go

2126
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 2: after this kid left and right. I think this kid's

2127
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 2: got ability. I'll hit you up with it in a second.

2128
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 2: We're the fellas right here, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back

2129
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 2: Fellas from the tairac dot com studio, Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano.

2130
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 3: So let me throw a guy.

2131
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know him, but I know

2132
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 2: him well because he's the backup for the Eagles.

2133
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,680
Speaker 3: His name's Tanner McKee.

2134
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Speaker 4: The Stanford Kid. Yes, that's when you know I've covered

2135
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 4: too many drafts. When I'm like Oh.

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Speaker 3: That's the Stanford I'm man, my man.

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01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 2: So now the Eagles had you know, they'd move picket right,

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01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 2: it was their primary backup, and they got Dorian Thomas

2140
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 2: Thompson Robinson right like, but I think it's Tyner mckee'

2141
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 2: is really their backup. But dude, let me tell you something.

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01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:26,680
Speaker 2: This dude can play. All right, I'm telling you he

2143
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:31,720
Speaker 2: can play. I I now, I know it's preseason. He

2144
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 2: got a couple of reps when Jalen got hurt.

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01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 3: But this dude is big, He's got a good arm,

2146
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 3: he can move.

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to Like I'm wanting these teams star for

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01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 2: a quarterback.

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01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 3: I'd much rather go that route.

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01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 2: Here's a kid that's been studying under hurt on the

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01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 2: the Eagles on their hurts for two years. I much

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01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 2: rather better on him that I could probably get for

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01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 2: a third round pick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's interesting too, because there were plenty

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01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 4: of teams that seemed to really like Tanner McKey. The

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01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 4: year he was drafted was that two years ago? I

2158
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 4: think it was, But as he was coming out, everybody

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01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 4: seemed to want to talk to him. Combination of as

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01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 4: you mentioned, all the skill sets and you know his

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01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 4: Stanford kid like, he's smart. You know he can digest

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01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 4: an offensive game plan. Obviously, so plenty of people really

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01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 4: liked him, and the arm strength was a big, big,

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01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 4: big part of it. I was surprised in that year's draft.

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Speaker 4: I really thought that he was going to go higher

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01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 4: than he did. So the fact that he went later

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01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 4: in the process was a little stunning to me. And

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Speaker 4: this is why teams take the time to interview so

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Speaker 4: many players in the draft process, because you kind of

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Speaker 4: keep the book on him, like you know where you

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01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 4: stood on Tanner m ckey and where you would stand

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01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 4: on him now. So to your point, I think when

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01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 4: he got into a game last year, I was like, oh,

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01:55:56,640 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 4: the Stanford kid. There's an element here of teams need

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01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 4: to go back, especially as bad as this year's quarterback

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01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 4: class could be for this year's result. Like I want

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01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 4: to say this again, I think a lot of these

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01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:10,680
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in this year's class, if they go to a

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01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:12,920
Speaker 4: great situation and get a couple of years to sit

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01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 4: and develop with the right coaching.

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Speaker 1: Could actually turn out to be pretty good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: I don't think this is a lost class for talent.

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01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 4: It just isn't the same top end that we're used to, right,

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01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 4: So I would much rather take a flyer on, you know,

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01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 4: somebody that's been in the league for a minute, especially

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Speaker 4: if I'm taking a developmental prospect. Yeah, yeah, I mean

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01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 4: i'd take I'd take tenor over like Tyler Schuck that

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01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 4: everybody is, you know, there's like forty seven years old

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01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 4: and has had injury issues and yeah, one hundred.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think Dart is going to I think

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01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 2: you'm like, listen, I get dart Ward's the best is

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01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 2: the best prospect.

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01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 4: Obviously not even close, not even But I like Dart.

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01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 2: Right like I think dark Like, I would take a

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01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 2: flyer on Dart I told you all, Like Kyle, I

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01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 2: like the Cord. I mean, I think there's kids out

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Speaker 2: out there.

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01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm not the.

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Speaker 2: Biggest Will Howard guy. You know, it's a shame that

2200
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 2: what's his name's five five to nine Oregon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, why am I so like Dylan Gabriel in fact

2202
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 4: got stuck.

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01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 2: If you look at Gabriel, Gabriel's got skills, man, it's

2204
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 2: just a shame that he's he's small.

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01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there are certain guys in this class too,

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01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 4: Like you know, it would just take so much reworking.

2207
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 4: Like if they were just slightly better prospects, Like if

2208
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 4: Riley Leonard was just a better thrower, then somebody could

2209
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 4: could take Riley and say, we're gonna build around this.

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01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 4: But he's too mediocre at too many things to be

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01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 4: worth building around, you know, So it gets it gets

2212
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 4: difficult with some of these guys. Jalen Milroe certainly, I

2213
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:56,480
Speaker 4: mean the fact that he ran so fast. Somebody's gonna

2214
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 4: fall in love with Jalen Milroe. But man, you're gonna

2215
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 4: have to really build it off fence around him, and

2216
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to slow develop the Like his throwing

2217
01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 4: technique is what for anyone that looks at it and says, well,

2218
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 4: he was inconsistent last year, Now the question is why

2219
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 4: was he inconsistent? And then you talk to anybody that

2220
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 4: breaks down quarterbacks and they'll tell you that his mechanics

2221
01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 4: are just wildly inconsistent. So can somebody get in and

2222
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 4: fix those mechanics? Sure, sure, if you give him a

2223
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 4: couple of years.

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01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 3: Great kids work, Yeah, he's a great kid. He's strong,

2225
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,839
Speaker 3: Like the kid's a beast man. He's a workout beast,

2226
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 3: strong as old get out.

2227
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 2: Oh my God, I just wish you would have went

2228
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 2: back to school. Yeah, more a year, go back into portal.

2229
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 3: You were got paid a man.

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01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like you know and you're right by

2231
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 4: the way, great kids, smart kid says all the right things.

2232
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 4: You knew he was going to do well in the interview,

2233
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 4: Like I interviewed at the Super Bowl and it was like, yeah,

2234
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 4: this kid's got it from from us sitting in.

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01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 2: The they were in love with him, they got oh oh,

2236
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:05,960
Speaker 2: the kids is awesome, Like they love them, loved them,

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01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 2: and I can only see it.

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01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 4: He's gonna get overdrafted because he's such a likable kid

2239
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 4: and because he's so damn fast. But I don't know

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Speaker 4: that he's a quarterback. That's it's just gonna take. It's

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01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 4: gonna take time. You're gonna have to be patient with

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01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 4: all of these kids.

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01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 2: Can just I just think it's a shame that you

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01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 2: getting it came out one on one more year needed

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Speaker 2: All right, my brother, Big day, Round two of all

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Speaker 2: the basketball. All right, Days one and two are gone,

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Speaker 2: first round over and this round and like we said,

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Speaker 2: should be better. This should be a little bit more

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Speaker 2: competitive basketball.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, one hundred percent. Is there any element

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02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:56,920
Speaker 4: of people in your mind that'll be bummed if this

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02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:59,000
Speaker 4: thing continues to go chalk chalk, chalk chalk talk. We

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Speaker 4: got a couple of I shouldn't say it's all chalk

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02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:04,760
Speaker 4: but we just don't have that. There isn't a Cinderella

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02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 4: that everybody's gravitated to. And I think you're right, we're

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02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 4: gonna get better basketball. The question is, does that make

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02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:14,600
Speaker 4: for a lessoned March Madness experience If we're not getting

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02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 4: some random, you know, liberty team that's finally that's in

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02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:19,720
Speaker 4: the Sweet sixteen. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I think you're right. I think we're conditioned

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02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:30,320
Speaker 2: to love the Cinderella, even though Cinderella got a bit

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02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 2: of I think skewed the way I said this to

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Speaker 2: in the beginning of the show about the mid Majors.

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02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:41,760
Speaker 3: See, mid Majors.

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02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 2: Aren't like they were back then, like they were the

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Speaker 2: traditional Cinderella's right George Mason and the great call by

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02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:50,920
Speaker 2: Verne Lund quish by George.

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Speaker 3: They did it like that.

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02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:57,640
Speaker 2: Team doesn't really exist now because what happens is with

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02:01:57,680 --> 02:02:01,880
Speaker 2: the Portal, you poach those those kids then go to

2290
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 2: bigger programs, and any of those kids that are left,

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02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:10,920
Speaker 2: like those older veteran types that stay in school at

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02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 2: the mid majors together, they're not that good. I think

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Speaker 2: that's the biggest issue with Cinderella. Cinderella, I don't think

2294
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 2: there's a slipper out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And also I think it ruins a little bit

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02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 4: of it, like McNeice, the fact that we all know

2297
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 4: Will Wade is already headed to n See State. You know,

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02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 4: it's like it ruins a little bit of that magic.

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02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:38,160
Speaker 4: You know, there's a you knew it was going to

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02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 4: happen so often when a Cinderella went on a run

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Speaker 4: that the coach would take a job somewhere else. But

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Speaker 4: to get that news before the first game of the

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Speaker 4: tournament and to think about, you know, how weird it

2304
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 4: is for the players and for coach, and yeah, thought

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Speaker 4: of like are they all going with him? And like

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02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 4: what's it meaning? Like we talk all the time about

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02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:59,120
Speaker 4: distractions and what that means, but he's sitting here. Some

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Speaker 4: of these Cinderella stories, like McNeice, I think, have taken

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02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:05,400
Speaker 4: a little bit of a side view, because now the

2310
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 4: conversation is about already about well, Will Wade's headed somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: And that's just I don't know that it's a peel

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02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 4: behind the curtain a little bit too far, Like there's

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Speaker 4: too much it's too much too inside baseball for us

2314
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:18,920
Speaker 4: to already be talking about where a coach is going

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02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:21,400
Speaker 4: to be next instead of where his Cinderella could end up.

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Speaker 4: And you know, that's one of the rare cine RelA

2317
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Speaker 4: situations here. Maybe New Mexico if they if they topple

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Speaker 4: Michigan State, you know, maybe that becomes because that is

2319
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Speaker 4: a a ten over a two, then they become that

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Speaker 4: sort of a massive Cinderella. But I don't know it

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Speaker 4: is It's funny because the West bracket was widely perceived

2322
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:43,880
Speaker 4: to be the toughest of all the brackets coming in,

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Speaker 4: and you have a twelve and eleven and a ten

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Speaker 4: that have advanced in that bracket. So the toughest bracket

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Speaker 4: gives us the best chance at a Cinderella, But not

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Speaker 4: really because I don't think a ten, eleven or twelve

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Speaker 4: is taken down Saint John's or Florida. So like, what

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Speaker 4: are we.

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Speaker 3: Talking about exactly?

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Speaker 2: Like, let's go through the two days right today, tomorrow,

2331
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Speaker 2: all right, McNee McNeice has a chance. I think that

2332
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Speaker 2: they have a chance to beat Purdue, all right, Like

2333
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Speaker 2: you said, we'll put that, We'll put them to the side.

2334
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Speaker 3: Arkansas has not beating Saint John's.

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Speaker 2: I think Saint John's wins and I think they even

2336
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Speaker 2: double digits.

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Speaker 4: Even if Arkansas, I agree with you one percent, even

2338
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:26,960
Speaker 4: if Arkansas does advance, that's not a Cinderella A ten seed.

2339
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 4: Not all ten seeds are built the same. You're talking

2340
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Speaker 4: about one of the most legendary coaches in a program

2341
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 4: coming out of the SEC that people have already been

2342
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:37,839
Speaker 4: paying attention to. So that doesn't feel Cinderella.

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Speaker 3: Agree.

2344
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Speaker 2: Agree, Michigan like A and N. By the way, Texas

2345
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:47,800
Speaker 2: Tech Drake. I think that Drake has a chance to

2346
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:49,040
Speaker 2: beat Texas Tech.

2347
02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:52,320
Speaker 3: That would be it.

2348
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 4: And like, if Drake beats Texas Tech then gets clobbered

2349
02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:59,400
Speaker 4: by Saint John's, But if Drake beats Texas Tech, that

2350
02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:02,120
Speaker 4: would be Yeah, that's enough to put them, you know,

2351
02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:03,200
Speaker 4: in that category.

2352
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:03,400
Speaker 3: Drake.

2353
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 2: Right now, you're in this sweet sixteen, you're into the

2354
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:10,240
Speaker 2: second weekend. That's that's you know, the slipper thing, right.

2355
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we're spending the week finding more out about Drake,

2356
02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 4: and the all week is gonna be give me stories

2357
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 4: about Drake.

2358
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, and everybody will do the slide fell line.

2359
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 2: Hate the Drake, love the Drake, you know, uh, Creighton Auburn,

2360
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 2: I don't I think Auburn wins.

2361
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 3: I think you do too.

2362
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Creighton too established a brand to be a

2363
02:05:31,800 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 4: to be a Cinderella.

2364
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 2: Agreed, b Yu Wisconsin, Uh, that's just a great even match.

2365
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:42,880
Speaker 3: Three six. Gonzaga is in nine. But it's Gonzaga.

2366
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:45,720
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't think they beat Euston, but b that's

2367
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:47,680
Speaker 2: not that's not Cinderella worthy.

2368
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:50,600
Speaker 3: You feel like.

2369
02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:54,160
Speaker 4: Hell out of state. Maryland is the other. Like, I

2370
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:57,920
Speaker 4: think Maryland's gonna cream them. Just absolutely a nine later.

2371
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:04,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and they weren't a true underdog twelve

2372
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:06,560
Speaker 2: because they were the favorite in the game.

2373
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. They All they did was what they're supposed to do.

2374
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:13,200
Speaker 4: You know. That's one of the interesting things because I

2375
02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:16,680
Speaker 4: saw the narrative after the first weekend of the tournament.

2376
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:18,840
Speaker 4: Some people wanted to turn around and say, well, the

2377
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 4: SEC showed they didn't belong because they lost so many

2378
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,400
Speaker 4: games in the first round. And what's funny about that.

2379
02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:27,200
Speaker 4: This is why context matters to information, And how often

2380
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:29,760
Speaker 4: do we scream that if you look at the SEC,

2381
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 4: Missouri was upset by Drake. So that's definitely an upset,

2382
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:37,680
Speaker 4: there's no doubt about that. And so you know, taking

2383
02:06:37,760 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 4: that result aside, because that again clearly an upset there

2384
02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:45,880
Speaker 4: the rest of their losses, you know, they were the

2385
02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:49,280
Speaker 4: lower ranked seed. So to me, if the lower ranked

2386
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:52,400
Speaker 4: seed or the playing game was eleven v. Eleven for Texas,

2387
02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:55,120
Speaker 4: if you lose as the lower ranked seed, all you

2388
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:57,240
Speaker 4: did was what you were expected to do. So like,

2389
02:06:57,320 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 4: I don't I'm not freaking out over Baylor beat in

2390
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:03,040
Speaker 4: Mississippi State, you got beaten Oklahoma, Like those were the

2391
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 4: appropriate seed one. So it's it's interesting to me when

2392
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 4: we look at some of this, you got to look

2393
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:09,680
Speaker 4: at who was the favorite, and then how did the

2394
02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 4: seating played out? Like I think because of the fact

2395
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:16,360
Speaker 4: that Memphis came into that game hurt and that that

2396
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 4: was interesting in Colorado State came into that game hot

2397
02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 4: and I think underseated, it created the upset. But I

2398
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 4: don't really think that was necessarily an upset. They were.

2399
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:27,720
Speaker 4: I think they were a two point favor by the

2400
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:29,680
Speaker 4: time the game tipped, which is pretty surprising.

2401
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Now you're the spot all with it.

2402
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 2: So I don't know St. Mary's Alabama because it's you know,

2403
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:44,880
Speaker 2: Alabama Leak's points. They're not there. I mean, they could score,

2404
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 2: but they don't play d Yeah, they.

2405
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 4: Did struggle with Robert Morris. I really wanted Robert Morris

2406
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:53,000
Speaker 4: to win just so I could call him Bobby Mo

2407
02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 4: for the weekend. Like Robert Morris just felt like Bobby Mo.

2408
02:07:56,080 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 4: I mean, need Mo, Bobby Mo. But no Alabama. You know,

2409
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:04,400
Speaker 4: injury part of that too. But again, when they were like, okay,

2410
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:06,400
Speaker 4: we need to put everybody in, they won that game,

2411
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:09,440
Speaker 4: you know, pretty easily down the stretch. But yeah, Saint

2412
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 4: Mary's I think handled a Vandy team that frankly choked

2413
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 4: for the last eight to ten minutes of that game.

2414
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:18,160
Speaker 4: Like Vandy should have beat Saint Mary's. And I would

2415
02:08:18,160 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 4: have liked Vandy a lot against Alabama. In fact, in

2416
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 4: my bracket I may have actually picked I don't remember,

2417
02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 4: I may have picked Vandy to beat Alabama, the reason

2418
02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 4: being that Vandy can get on a heater shooting in

2419
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:33,000
Speaker 4: Alabama plays no defense, so that that's the thought process.

2420
02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:36,640
Speaker 4: So maybe playing no defense is an issue for Saint Mary's.

2421
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:40,240
Speaker 4: But even a seven beating of two doesn't really feel like,

2422
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 4: you know, our glory Cinderella stories of years past. But

2423
02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 4: we'll take it. We'll take it.

2424
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I mean, listen and Saint Mary's is you know,

2425
02:08:49,080 --> 02:08:53,400
Speaker 2: it's not you know, obscure, but it's not goodzoga and

2426
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:57,960
Speaker 2: say the Saint Conference, right, So it would be a

2427
02:08:57,960 --> 02:08:59,640
Speaker 2: bit it would be a fun story.

2428
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really it.

2429
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I think your fun story

2430
02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:05,360
Speaker 3: in this.

2431
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:09,640
Speaker 4: Year's tournament and nobody likes this as a society, But like,

2432
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:13,240
Speaker 4: I think the fun story is the greatness of so

2433
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:15,960
Speaker 4: many of these teams, Like I want to get to

2434
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:17,680
Speaker 4: an Elite eight that gives me all the ones and

2435
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,080
Speaker 4: twos because they've been the best teams in the country.

2436
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:22,400
Speaker 4: Like if we end up with an Elite eight that

2437
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 4: is Auburn versus Michigan State and Duke taken on Alabama

2438
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:30,400
Speaker 4: and Houston taken on Tennessee and Saint John's taken on Florida,

2439
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:33,240
Speaker 4: guess what every one of those matchups is must see.

2440
02:09:33,320 --> 02:09:36,440
Speaker 4: Every one of those teams has been absolutely incredible throughout

2441
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:38,760
Speaker 4: the course of the entire regular season. Like, yes, I

2442
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 4: want I want the best of the best this year,

2443
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:44,160
Speaker 4: because this isn't like I said earlier, this isn't a

2444
02:09:44,240 --> 02:09:46,200
Speaker 4: year where I feel like, oh, there's two teams that

2445
02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:47,880
Speaker 4: can win it all and the rest are pretty good. No,

2446
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:50,440
Speaker 4: I think any of the eight teams I just mentioned

2447
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 4: are fully capable and deserving of a national championship, that

2448
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 4: that's a special moment.

2449
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:59,320
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, because what happens is.

2450
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:06,919
Speaker 2: These years give context to Cinderella.

2451
02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:08,160
Speaker 4: M That's what I said.

2452
02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:11,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you haven't had that.

2453
02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 2: What was the last time you had matchups sweet Sweet sixteenth?

2454
02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:22,800
Speaker 2: I mean Elite eight matchups with all those types of teams.

2455
02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:24,800
Speaker 3: You don't have that.

2456
02:10:26,600 --> 02:10:31,280
Speaker 4: And the longer Goliath dominates, the more special it is

2457
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:35,040
Speaker 4: when David actually takes him down exactly. That is that

2458
02:10:35,320 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 4: there is an element of maybe maybe the death of

2459
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 4: mid majors that we've been talking about this morning. You know,

2460
02:10:43,720 --> 02:10:46,720
Speaker 4: maybe that becomes it makes us appreciated even more when

2461
02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 4: one pops through, simply because it becomes more and more

2462
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:54,480
Speaker 4: difficult for that to happen. You know, It's it's it's

2463
02:10:54,560 --> 02:10:57,560
Speaker 4: kind of wild that you look at again, fourteen SEC

2464
02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 4: teams made it, Eight Big ten teams made a Like,

2465
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 4: that's twenty two teams from two conferences that are just

2466
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:08,120
Speaker 4: man ruling this conference. So the more we get that,

2467
02:11:08,240 --> 02:11:12,160
Speaker 4: the more it's going to become incredible. If eventually you

2468
02:11:12,240 --> 02:11:14,840
Speaker 4: end up with a random mountain West team that goes

2469
02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:17,320
Speaker 4: on a run. You know, that's just that's not what

2470
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:17,880
Speaker 4: we think of.

2471
02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:23,040
Speaker 2: Hey, I need your help with something. So I was

2472
02:11:23,080 --> 02:11:25,680
Speaker 2: having a debate on my show. I brought something up,

2473
02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:30,240
Speaker 2: and I'm curious to see where you stand and the

2474
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:33,800
Speaker 2: plausibility of it, all right, because I got a lot

2475
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:40,840
Speaker 2: of pushback from it. So let's say Nike, well, actually

2476
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:46,440
Speaker 2: he's new bounced. Let's say Gatorade goes to Cooper Flag

2477
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:51,520
Speaker 2: and says, Coop, we want you to be the face

2478
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:56,160
Speaker 2: of March. We're going to give you two hundred million

2479
02:11:56,280 --> 02:12:01,120
Speaker 2: dollars to be the face of March, but you got

2480
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:07,520
Speaker 2: to stay for four years of Duke. You were to

2481
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 2: give you two hundred million, but you got to stay

2482
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:12,160
Speaker 2: four years of Duke.

2483
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:18,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just staying. I'm staying right in the hand,

2484
02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:21,600
Speaker 4: Purt in the hand exactly.

2485
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:25,120
Speaker 3: So, Mike, this is my point of it.

2486
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:27,960
Speaker 2: To these guys, I go, why would if you're a

2487
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag, why wouldn't you stay.

2488
02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:32,840
Speaker 3: You'll be twenty two when.

2489
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 2: You can go, when you graduate, you go to the NBA,

2490
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:37,360
Speaker 2: You're you're going to dominate March.

2491
02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:39,520
Speaker 3: You're going to enjoy yourself.

2492
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:42,360
Speaker 2: You're going to be the man and you got two

2493
02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars, which is not crazy in the landscape

2494
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:48,880
Speaker 2: of the way the world works today.

2495
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:55,680
Speaker 4: When when Lebron was drafted, I don't might have been

2496
02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:58,520
Speaker 4: Bob Costas, but some one of the legends was doing

2497
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:01,200
Speaker 4: an interview with him and they brought up the contract

2498
02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:03,560
Speaker 4: he had just signed with Nike, and at the time

2499
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:05,520
Speaker 4: it paid him more than the Calves were paying him.

2500
02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:08,600
Speaker 4: And I remember distinctly the interviewer asked him, who do

2501
02:13:08,640 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 4: you really work for? The Calves or Nike, and Lebron

2502
02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:15,200
Speaker 4: just smiled and laughed and said both. You know, to

2503
02:13:15,320 --> 02:13:21,080
Speaker 4: your point at some point if your Cooper flag, I

2504
02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:23,560
Speaker 4: think the biggest thing that you're looking at right now

2505
02:13:23,600 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 4: is Victor Webbin Yama, who has lived up to every

2506
02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:30,240
Speaker 4: ounce of expectation has been absolutely spectacular for the Spurs,

2507
02:13:30,240 --> 02:13:32,480
Speaker 4: and the Spurs obviously with Pop's health that had other

2508
02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:35,240
Speaker 4: things going on. But what's happened for Wenby since he

2509
02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:37,720
Speaker 4: got to the NBA. He just gets his ass kick

2510
02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:41,800
Speaker 4: like he personally plays great, but his team loses over

2511
02:13:42,080 --> 02:13:45,280
Speaker 4: and over and over again. And so you look at

2512
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 4: it if you're Cooper and you think, okay, yes, I

2513
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:50,640
Speaker 4: want to make that transcendent money. But if I can

2514
02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:55,720
Speaker 4: make generational wealth like family tree wealth, that changes everything.

2515
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:59,280
Speaker 4: If I can make meggie yacht owning money and win,

2516
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:02,160
Speaker 4: or I can go to a place like the Wizards,

2517
02:14:02,240 --> 02:14:05,080
Speaker 4: where if I am the best rookie we've ever seen

2518
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:08,600
Speaker 4: of all time, I'm probably still not making the playoffs

2519
02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 4: for the first three years of my career. I think

2520
02:14:12,240 --> 02:14:14,360
Speaker 4: the NBA is going to have to rethink some of

2521
02:14:14,400 --> 02:14:17,520
Speaker 4: this at some point because these teams that are bad

2522
02:14:17,560 --> 02:14:21,280
Speaker 4: are bad for so long. It takes so long to

2523
02:14:21,360 --> 02:14:24,720
Speaker 4: turn it around. And I'm just looking at again underperformance

2524
02:14:24,760 --> 02:14:27,320
Speaker 4: for Zion. But I'm looking at Zion and saying, man,

2525
02:14:27,480 --> 02:14:29,800
Speaker 4: how much fun has he really had playing for New Orleans?

2526
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:33,200
Speaker 4: You know, you look at John Morant and the expectations

2527
02:14:33,200 --> 02:14:36,320
Speaker 4: in Memphis and they've even made the playoffs and still say, Okay,

2528
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:40,680
Speaker 4: you know there is something to hey, if you're talking

2529
02:14:40,760 --> 02:14:43,600
Speaker 4: about a shoe company coming in and offering two hundred

2530
02:14:43,640 --> 02:14:46,200
Speaker 4: million dollars to be the face of March madness. It's

2531
02:14:46,240 --> 02:14:48,240
Speaker 4: also in a situation where you can play on a

2532
02:14:48,280 --> 02:14:51,040
Speaker 4: college campus where you are a king. You can live

2533
02:14:51,240 --> 02:14:55,000
Speaker 4: like an absolute royalty. You know, you can live like

2534
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:57,600
Speaker 4: a King, and you can have the experience of a

2535
02:14:57,640 --> 02:15:00,760
Speaker 4: lifetime in college winning a lot of basketball games like that.

2536
02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:03,720
Speaker 4: I do think there has to be some appeal to that,

2537
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:07,280
Speaker 4: especially when you look at how bad the lottery teams

2538
02:15:07,320 --> 02:15:09,800
Speaker 4: are likely to be. Now, if the draft, if the

2539
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:13,480
Speaker 4: draft order came out and suddenly, by weird circumstance, the

2540
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 4: Spurs won the lottery, then maybe that changes your decision.

2541
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:18,720
Speaker 4: You're looking at and saying, hey, me and Wemby who

2542
02:15:19,240 --> 02:15:21,560
Speaker 4: in the NBA right now? Maybe that changes your decision.

2543
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:24,440
Speaker 4: But I'm certainly looking at it every single year saying

2544
02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:28,520
Speaker 4: if I can make anywhere near comparable money, which is

2545
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:30,360
Speaker 4: inevitable for the best of the best of the best

2546
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:34,320
Speaker 4: of college basketball, I just wonder why you would leave exactly.

2547
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:35,560
Speaker 3: And that's my whole point.

2548
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:39,520
Speaker 2: Now again, if if Gatoray comes you and gives you

2549
02:15:39,560 --> 02:15:41,960
Speaker 2: a Jason Fitz, I'm giving you two undred million dollars,

2550
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:46,000
Speaker 2: you got to you gotta you sign a contract. You're staying,

2551
02:15:46,120 --> 02:15:50,800
Speaker 2: You're not getting out of it, You're staying, but you're

2552
02:15:50,840 --> 02:15:52,120
Speaker 2: getting two dred million dollars.

2553
02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:57,160
Speaker 3: And if you're if you're the brand, it's worth it.

2554
02:15:57,280 --> 02:15:59,640
Speaker 3: Could you have the you got the league?

2555
02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:03,120
Speaker 2: Guy who's going to be the superstar of March every year?

2556
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:03,920
Speaker 4: Locked up?

2557
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:08,600
Speaker 3: I think it's a win win. I don't know why

2558
02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:10,800
Speaker 3: you wouldn't.

2559
02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why teams are and brands don't do that.

2560
02:16:13,960 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 2: Like they were telling me while he's not Caitlyn Clark,

2561
02:16:17,080 --> 02:16:21,920
Speaker 2: and I'm going, well, he's bigger than Caitlyn Clark was

2562
02:16:21,960 --> 02:16:27,240
Speaker 2: as a freshman, and if he stays, he'll be bigger

2563
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:31,320
Speaker 2: than Caitlyn Clark.

2564
02:16:29,800 --> 02:16:37,720
Speaker 4: I mean, if he stays four years, how many championships

2565
02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:40,320
Speaker 4: could they win with it? Exactly? He comes like, and

2566
02:16:40,640 --> 02:16:44,040
Speaker 4: then what what level of icon does it become? It

2567
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:48,120
Speaker 4: has to be outrageous money though, because I heard you

2568
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:52,000
Speaker 4: know Cody Decker, uh, you know Beatle and Decker on sirius.

2569
02:16:52,320 --> 02:16:55,160
Speaker 4: I love those guys. And Cody was talking about being

2570
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:58,119
Speaker 4: a college teammate of Garrett Cole. And when Garrett Cole

2571
02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:00,640
Speaker 4: came into college, he was offered I think he said

2572
02:17:00,680 --> 02:17:04,039
Speaker 4: it was a million dollars to sign somewhere. And Garrett

2573
02:17:04,080 --> 02:17:07,040
Speaker 4: came to practice and everybody thought he was gonna leave.

2574
02:17:07,400 --> 02:17:09,480
Speaker 4: And Garrett Cole's response was, why would I take a

2575
02:17:09,520 --> 02:17:12,280
Speaker 4: million dollars now when I can play college baseball for

2576
02:17:12,320 --> 02:17:14,000
Speaker 4: a couple of years be the number one overall pick

2577
02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:16,720
Speaker 4: and signed for ten million dollars. That's what I'm gonna do, right,

2578
02:17:16,760 --> 02:17:19,760
Speaker 4: which is which is ultimately what he did. And you know,

2579
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:21,760
Speaker 4: Cody was telling the story in a funny way. It

2580
02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:24,119
Speaker 4: drives you crazy that somebody turned down a million dollars

2581
02:17:24,120 --> 02:17:25,600
Speaker 4: in a spot right then and was like, oh, just

2582
02:17:25,640 --> 02:17:27,560
Speaker 4: wait a couple of years and make even more. I

2583
02:17:27,600 --> 02:17:30,640
Speaker 4: think if you're you're starting to talk about like if

2584
02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:33,080
Speaker 4: Cooper Flag can make five million dollars not worth it,

2585
02:17:33,080 --> 02:17:34,879
Speaker 4: ten million dollars not worth it. You want to get

2586
02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:37,760
Speaker 4: on that NBA train as soon as you possibly can.

2587
02:17:38,080 --> 02:17:41,000
Speaker 4: But if somebody came in and truly made a transcendent offer,

2588
02:17:41,000 --> 02:17:42,160
Speaker 4: and I don't know why you.

2589
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:44,400
Speaker 3: Know you mentioned, but that's why.

2590
02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:49,120
Speaker 4: But right, yeah, my my thing is like not just Gatorade,

2591
02:17:49,160 --> 02:17:52,959
Speaker 4: Like what about a conglomerate of Duke Gatorade and TNT

2592
02:17:53,360 --> 02:17:56,279
Speaker 4: you want to tell me that the TV right steals

2593
02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:58,480
Speaker 4: for these things? They wouldn't love to have the best

2594
02:17:58,520 --> 02:18:01,280
Speaker 4: player in the world coming. Like if I'm a if

2595
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:04,039
Speaker 4: I'm a TV executive, come in and say, hey, you

2596
02:18:04,040 --> 02:18:05,880
Speaker 4: know what, just like you got to pay the stars

2597
02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:08,519
Speaker 4: of Friends more when friends got a ton of money.

2598
02:18:08,920 --> 02:18:10,720
Speaker 4: At what point are TV execs going to go to

2599
02:18:10,760 --> 02:18:12,640
Speaker 4: some of these college kids and say, wait a minute,

2600
02:18:12,800 --> 02:18:15,080
Speaker 4: before you leave, tn T would like to give you

2601
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:18,160
Speaker 4: an offer to stay, Like before you leave ESPN would

2602
02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:19,840
Speaker 4: like to give you an offer to stay because Cooper

2603
02:18:19,879 --> 02:18:22,680
Speaker 4: flat brings ratings every single night.

2604
02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:28,280
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, that's the whole thing. That's why to me

2605
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:33,960
Speaker 2: it makes sense to do that. And by the way,

2606
02:18:33,959 --> 02:18:39,440
Speaker 2: the leaks still, the leak's not going anywhere. And you know,

2607
02:18:39,879 --> 02:18:43,720
Speaker 2: like this man, you know, to be the face of

2608
02:18:44,160 --> 02:18:46,680
Speaker 2: the tournament, and you know.

2609
02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:48,840
Speaker 3: It's worth it. It's where you do.

2610
02:18:48,879 --> 02:18:51,480
Speaker 2: All the you know, part of your duties is you

2611
02:18:51,480 --> 02:18:57,040
Speaker 2: do all those commercials. You know, m hm, Capital One,

2612
02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:02,840
Speaker 2: all the commercials, right, you're doing all God, I don't

2613
02:19:02,879 --> 02:19:05,720
Speaker 2: know why they honestly, I don't know why in all

2614
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:09,600
Speaker 2: these in all at least basketball and football, I don't

2615
02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 2: know why they don't do that.

2616
02:19:13,480 --> 02:19:16,320
Speaker 4: I go back to, as we talked about often on

2617
02:19:16,360 --> 02:19:19,160
Speaker 4: the show, what it felt like watching Larry Johnson, Stacey

2618
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:22,920
Speaker 4: Augman and Greg Anthony play together at UNLV and you

2619
02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:25,080
Speaker 4: knew the year after they won the championship that they

2620
02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:26,400
Speaker 4: were going to come back the next year and be

2621
02:19:26,440 --> 02:19:28,520
Speaker 4: even better. And they were even though they lost in

2622
02:19:28,520 --> 02:19:32,240
Speaker 4: the final four. Like, there is an element of carryover,

2623
02:19:32,440 --> 02:19:36,760
Speaker 4: and that's why the Caitlyn Clark comp doesn't work until

2624
02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:39,360
Speaker 4: you factor in what it would actually mean to have

2625
02:19:39,720 --> 02:19:42,680
Speaker 4: a college basketball superstar stay for four years. Like that's

2626
02:19:43,480 --> 02:19:45,879
Speaker 4: I said it earlier. With the women's tournament, We've fallen

2627
02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:50,000
Speaker 4: in love with Juju and Paige and I mean Hidalgo.

2628
02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:52,879
Speaker 4: There's a ton of names in women's college basketball that

2629
02:19:52,959 --> 02:19:54,680
Speaker 4: are great, but part of the reason we fall in

2630
02:19:54,680 --> 02:19:57,120
Speaker 4: love with them is because they're here long enough for

2631
02:19:57,200 --> 02:19:59,520
Speaker 4: us to fall in love with the story and to

2632
02:19:59,560 --> 02:20:02,360
Speaker 4: carry over from year to year. If you could accomplish

2633
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:04,800
Speaker 4: that in the men's game, I can't imagine what that

2634
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:07,000
Speaker 4: would mean for the growth of the sport. And if

2635
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:10,360
Speaker 4: you got to overpay, you know, your landmark guy, you

2636
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:10,760
Speaker 4: do it?

2637
02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it because I got pushedback

2638
02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:19,720
Speaker 2: on it. I'm like, I don't understand why where the

2639
02:20:19,760 --> 02:20:23,800
Speaker 2: fella is? Brain's coming up next to uh, give you

2640
02:20:23,879 --> 02:20:25,160
Speaker 2: some picks.

2641
02:20:24,760 --> 02:20:25,560
Speaker 3: For the weekend.

2642
02:20:26,320 --> 02:20:30,120
Speaker 2: So that's coming up, fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2643
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:34,080
Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2644
02:20:34,120 --> 02:20:37,480
Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

2645
02:20:37,640 --> 02:20:41,720
Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2646
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:42,480
Speaker 5: listen live.

2647
02:20:44,360 --> 02:20:50,680
Speaker 2: All right, Welcome back, fellas from the tai Iraq dot

2648
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:56,040
Speaker 2: com studios. Time now, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargina. Time now

2649
02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:59,480
Speaker 2: for the brain to get it started.

2650
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:01,000
Speaker 3: Brain.

2651
02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:04,680
Speaker 2: Uh, where we go? Good morning, my brother, how are

2652
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:06,000
Speaker 2: you good?

2653
02:21:06,040 --> 02:21:09,879
Speaker 7: Literally boarding the airplane right now to Aspen as we speak, my.

2654
02:21:09,879 --> 02:21:13,440
Speaker 2: Friend, Oh, oh god, bless you.

2655
02:21:13,959 --> 02:21:15,359
Speaker 3: What are you doing in Aspen?

2656
02:21:16,400 --> 02:21:18,440
Speaker 7: Well, you know what's funny. The crazy thing is, I'm

2657
02:21:18,480 --> 02:21:21,320
Speaker 7: not a skier, but favorite state, in case you I

2658
02:21:21,440 --> 02:21:23,320
Speaker 7: never told you, my favorite state in the world was Colorado.

2659
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:26,000
Speaker 7: I just love the scenery of it. I think it's beautiful.

2660
02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:29,920
Speaker 7: I didn't say it's gorgeous. So me and the family

2661
02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:32,600
Speaker 7: are on our way there now. I'm excited, even without

2662
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:35,199
Speaker 7: being a skier. I just love the scenery, walking around,

2663
02:21:35,280 --> 02:21:38,480
Speaker 7: seeing nature. It makes me very happy. So I'll have

2664
02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:39,959
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to having a great time.

2665
02:21:40,560 --> 02:21:42,400
Speaker 3: Nice. So hopefully you get a little snow.

2666
02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:47,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, hopefully, so hopefully some winning basketball that's as well.

2667
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great.

2668
02:21:48,680 --> 02:21:51,240
Speaker 2: Oh man, awesome, Well listen that have a great time

2669
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:55,720
Speaker 2: with the family. That's beautiful. All right, let's go through

2670
02:21:55,879 --> 02:22:00,440
Speaker 2: rapid fire. Okay, yeah, we'll do uh well each do

2671
02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:06,280
Speaker 2: four and then do tomorrow. I'll take the first four. McNeice, Purdue,

2672
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:10,400
Speaker 2: I think you and I are both all McNeese.

2673
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:14,640
Speaker 7: You know that not a game I'm personally betting. I

2674
02:22:14,800 --> 02:22:16,880
Speaker 7: think I think the line. Yeah, I think the line again.

2675
02:22:16,879 --> 02:22:19,680
Speaker 7: I'm fortunately I can't check my screen right now because

2676
02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:21,800
Speaker 7: I'm literally a boarding the plane, but I think it's

2677
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:25,480
Speaker 7: around sitting around five as six area. I don't really

2678
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:28,240
Speaker 7: trust Purdue is a good team. I don't. But again,

2679
02:22:28,360 --> 02:22:30,640
Speaker 7: McNee am I gonna tell you that I think that

2680
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:33,760
Speaker 7: they're great because they beat Conston. I'm not going to

2681
02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:37,160
Speaker 7: go that far again. Always say to everyone listening to

2682
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:40,120
Speaker 7: the show, look alive that these things. Trust rise if

2683
02:22:40,120 --> 02:22:42,400
Speaker 7: you're seeing something a team can't defend a certain way,

2684
02:22:42,560 --> 02:22:45,640
Speaker 7: or can't redown in that certain game or whatever. But

2685
02:22:46,280 --> 02:22:48,959
Speaker 7: that's not one of my favorite games. I think the

2686
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:50,320
Speaker 7: line was pretty reasonable.

2687
02:22:50,320 --> 02:22:52,959
Speaker 2: Actually, sicks in a half right now, all right? Saint

2688
02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:55,760
Speaker 2: John's Arkansas. I love Saint John's.

2689
02:22:56,920 --> 02:23:00,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, well up to seven now, seven and a half, yeah,

2690
02:23:00,360 --> 02:23:01,760
Speaker 7: seven and a half. You know, It's funny. It was

2691
02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:03,560
Speaker 7: six and a half half me and I was I

2692
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 7: remember I spoke to I go, I'm very close to

2693
02:23:05,320 --> 02:23:07,960
Speaker 7: playing Saint John's. I'm hoping for a six, hoping for

2694
02:23:08,000 --> 02:23:11,600
Speaker 7: a six. Never saw that six. My lean here will

2695
02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:15,240
Speaker 7: definitely be the Saint John's. And again, if I didn't

2696
02:23:15,320 --> 02:23:17,000
Speaker 7: lay six and a half, I can't lay seven a half.

2697
02:23:17,160 --> 02:23:18,879
Speaker 7: But I thought they should have been around like an

2698
02:23:18,879 --> 02:23:21,160
Speaker 7: eight point favorite, and I was just I was being

2699
02:23:21,160 --> 02:23:23,320
Speaker 7: greedy hoping for a six. Never got it. But I

2700
02:23:23,360 --> 02:23:25,240
Speaker 7: do think Saint John's is really tough, and I think

2701
02:23:25,280 --> 02:23:28,760
Speaker 7: they will beat a decent Arkansas team. But I think

2702
02:23:28,800 --> 02:23:31,480
Speaker 7: Saint John's has been better in over forty minutes. They

2703
02:23:31,520 --> 02:23:33,840
Speaker 7: will show them the better team and win by eight plus.

2704
02:23:34,160 --> 02:23:34,560
Speaker 3: All right.

2705
02:23:34,600 --> 02:23:36,879
Speaker 2: And then my last one to give you before I

2706
02:23:36,879 --> 02:23:39,400
Speaker 2: turned over to FITZI is one I think we're on

2707
02:23:39,440 --> 02:23:43,480
Speaker 2: the same page with Texas A and M against Michigan.

2708
02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:46,000
Speaker 3: What your alma matter? Mind you?

2709
02:23:46,760 --> 02:23:48,080
Speaker 7: What's the line right now?

2710
02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2711
02:23:49,959 --> 02:23:52,320
Speaker 7: I mean I I this is probably right up there

2712
02:23:52,360 --> 02:23:55,039
Speaker 7: is my second favorite game, let's call it. I bet

2713
02:23:55,080 --> 02:23:56,920
Speaker 7: A and M at the open lane one and a half.

2714
02:23:57,200 --> 02:23:59,039
Speaker 7: Loved them lank two and a half I think Michigan.

2715
02:23:59,320 --> 02:24:02,920
Speaker 7: I went to Michigan. I believe Mason Blue. I'm a

2716
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:06,440
Speaker 7: huge Michigan fan. I just and I've watched Michigan play

2717
02:24:06,480 --> 02:24:08,920
Speaker 7: too many times to count this year. They don't shoot

2718
02:24:08,920 --> 02:24:11,760
Speaker 7: the three well, they just they turn them all over

2719
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:15,720
Speaker 7: upon they again good bigs. Obviously, I think that Michigan stinks.

2720
02:24:15,920 --> 02:24:18,920
Speaker 7: I just really do it again. I love Michigan, but

2721
02:24:18,959 --> 02:24:21,720
Speaker 7: I'm again, I'm an objective Michigan fan. I'm not just

2722
02:24:22,200 --> 02:24:24,320
Speaker 7: a homer, you know, like a homer that just like

2723
02:24:24,959 --> 02:24:27,279
Speaker 7: roots for my team blindly and says they're the best.

2724
02:24:27,959 --> 02:24:30,000
Speaker 7: I don't think they're very good at all. Yeah, I

2725
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:32,040
Speaker 7: know they won the Big n I think A and

2726
02:24:32,200 --> 02:24:33,400
Speaker 7: M not a great team. But I think A and

2727
02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:34,960
Speaker 7: M wins this game by about eight or nine.

2728
02:24:35,120 --> 02:24:36,560
Speaker 3: All right, My fourth I forgot.

2729
02:24:36,600 --> 02:24:40,480
Speaker 2: My fourth one is Texas Tech Drake Texas six and

2730
02:24:40,520 --> 02:24:40,920
Speaker 2: a half.

2731
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:43,440
Speaker 7: Oh wow, it's down to six and a half. I

2732
02:24:43,480 --> 02:24:45,560
Speaker 7: really loved Drake at the Open Eye and Open did

2733
02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:47,720
Speaker 7: nine and a half, believe it or not. Anthey, I

2734
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:49,320
Speaker 7: got eight and a half and I was really happy

2735
02:24:49,360 --> 02:24:52,720
Speaker 7: with that. That God, it's it's just hard to recommend

2736
02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:53,920
Speaker 7: the bet when you're getting eight and a half in

2737
02:24:53,959 --> 02:24:55,760
Speaker 7: the line goes down two points, because so many of

2738
02:24:55,800 --> 02:24:59,000
Speaker 7: these games comes down to that. That thing said, I'm

2739
02:24:59,080 --> 02:25:02,360
Speaker 7: on the Drake side. Sure Texas Tech. I think they

2740
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:05,119
Speaker 7: played well down the stretch, but they're okay. I don't

2741
02:25:05,120 --> 02:25:07,680
Speaker 7: think they're anything great. And Drake, they play such a

2742
02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:10,520
Speaker 7: slow pace so to me, and they get shopping, Anthony,

2743
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:12,959
Speaker 7: maybe you can get at least seven on which I'm

2744
02:25:12,959 --> 02:25:15,160
Speaker 7: guessing you can if you shop it. I think the

2745
02:25:15,160 --> 02:25:17,120
Speaker 7: game will be quoted. I think it'll be tight, and

2746
02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:21,320
Speaker 7: I think Drake probably has paul a thirty two chance

2747
02:25:21,320 --> 02:25:23,160
Speaker 7: of winning the game. Out right, I'll take Drake in

2748
02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:24,920
Speaker 7: the points.

2749
02:25:24,480 --> 02:25:27,280
Speaker 4: All right, So what about Creighton and Auburn. That one's

2750
02:25:27,320 --> 02:25:29,160
Speaker 4: eight and a half. Auburn the number one overall.

2751
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:32,840
Speaker 7: See here my favorite game, and it's funny. It was

2752
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:35,240
Speaker 7: nine and a half yesterday. I took nine. It was

2753
02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:37,240
Speaker 7: actually nine and a half all yesterday as I didn't

2754
02:25:37,240 --> 02:25:40,119
Speaker 7: see today, and maybe went down a point. But listen,

2755
02:25:40,480 --> 02:25:42,800
Speaker 7: my biggest future before the year was Auburn at forty

2756
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:47,080
Speaker 7: to one. So I'm rooted for Auburn all year. They're

2757
02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:49,640
Speaker 7: playing their worst basketball at the worst time of the year,

2758
02:25:49,760 --> 02:25:52,959
Speaker 7: right They just have not. They don't have that hit

2759
02:25:53,120 --> 02:25:55,560
Speaker 7: factor right now. Not only am I calling for Creighton

2760
02:25:55,600 --> 02:25:57,640
Speaker 7: to cover, I think Craigon has a real chance to

2761
02:25:57,680 --> 02:25:58,200
Speaker 7: win this game.

2762
02:25:58,240 --> 02:25:58,680
Speaker 3: Out right.

2763
02:25:58,959 --> 02:26:00,959
Speaker 7: I'm rooting like crazy for Auburn to win the game.

2764
02:26:00,959 --> 02:26:02,960
Speaker 7: I'm ringing like crazy is to Creighton the coveracks. I

2765
02:26:02,959 --> 02:26:04,880
Speaker 7: have a very large bet. My biggest out of the

2766
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:06,959
Speaker 7: day is on Creighton plus to nine, but even plus

2767
02:26:06,959 --> 02:26:08,200
Speaker 7: the eight, and I think the game will be tight.

2768
02:26:08,360 --> 02:26:10,760
Speaker 7: And I think the stealing for Auburn to win is

2769
02:26:10,840 --> 02:26:13,200
Speaker 7: right around nine, ten eleven. I think that's their ceiling,

2770
02:26:13,400 --> 02:26:15,000
Speaker 7: and I think Cryighton has a real chance to win

2771
02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:15,640
Speaker 7: the game out right.

2772
02:26:16,760 --> 02:26:19,520
Speaker 4: What about b YU Wisconsin, which as a basketball game

2773
02:26:19,520 --> 02:26:20,520
Speaker 4: could be the game of the day.

2774
02:26:21,320 --> 02:26:23,960
Speaker 7: I don't it's so funny should say that. I think

2775
02:26:23,959 --> 02:26:25,560
Speaker 7: that is the I think that is the day of

2776
02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:28,080
Speaker 7: the game, you know, the game of the day. I

2777
02:26:28,120 --> 02:26:31,200
Speaker 7: think it's like a game that's going to be extremely entertaining.

2778
02:26:32,120 --> 02:26:35,680
Speaker 7: We have a BYU team and of Wisconsin team that

2779
02:26:35,720 --> 02:26:37,760
Speaker 7: can both really score. I think it's gonna be a

2780
02:26:37,800 --> 02:26:43,040
Speaker 7: really high plowing, exciting game that comes down to the end. Again,

2781
02:26:43,320 --> 02:26:46,360
Speaker 7: I lean Wisconsin, lean Wisconsin, but I think it'll be

2782
02:26:46,400 --> 02:26:47,720
Speaker 7: a really tight, exciting game.

2783
02:26:49,000 --> 02:26:52,920
Speaker 4: Okay, a lot of things. We got Gonzaga Houston. Any

2784
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:55,560
Speaker 4: chance that Gonzaga shocks the world?

2785
02:26:56,640 --> 02:26:58,240
Speaker 7: You know it's Tonny and I totally answer me this.

2786
02:26:58,320 --> 02:27:00,840
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't personally think so. I am not

2787
02:27:01,640 --> 02:27:05,199
Speaker 7: a fan of this Gonzaga team. Now. The metrics from

2788
02:27:05,240 --> 02:27:08,480
Speaker 7: like like the people like Neal sites like Ken, Tom

2789
02:27:08,520 --> 02:27:11,640
Speaker 7: Bart Worbick, they love Gonzaga. They're like a team that

2790
02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:14,960
Speaker 7: people just think is like bag of chips and all that.

2791
02:27:15,320 --> 02:27:17,640
Speaker 7: I just am not there. I think Houston, well, I'm

2792
02:27:17,640 --> 02:27:19,640
Speaker 7: not in love with but I definitely think they're the

2793
02:27:19,640 --> 02:27:23,440
Speaker 7: better team. And I think Houston covers this game against

2794
02:27:23,680 --> 02:27:26,480
Speaker 7: Gonzaga and they win the game by double digits in

2795
02:27:26,480 --> 02:27:27,000
Speaker 7: my opinion.

2796
02:27:27,959 --> 02:27:31,039
Speaker 4: We were talking earlier about UCLA Tennessee. A little surprise,

2797
02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:33,080
Speaker 4: Tennessee is only favored by five and a half. There,

2798
02:27:33,080 --> 02:27:35,640
Speaker 4: what do you see?

2799
02:27:35,800 --> 02:27:38,200
Speaker 7: Design opened it four? And that was one of my

2800
02:27:38,200 --> 02:27:40,680
Speaker 7: bigger bets too, was on Tennessee. I went up to

2801
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:42,040
Speaker 7: five and a half. I didn't know that I saw

2802
02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:44,879
Speaker 7: five yesterday. Still on the Tennessee side, I think us

2803
02:27:44,879 --> 02:27:48,959
Speaker 7: Sillies is you know, no offense garbage. I do not

2804
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:52,600
Speaker 7: do not think there are anything special. I think Tennessee well,

2805
02:27:52,640 --> 02:27:55,360
Speaker 7: I don't love coach Barnes in these spots. Time after time,

2806
02:27:55,400 --> 02:27:57,720
Speaker 7: he's proven he doesn't get it done. I think we'll

2807
02:27:57,760 --> 02:28:00,400
Speaker 7: get it done against you know, well coached Houston team,

2808
02:28:00,400 --> 02:28:01,880
Speaker 7: but the team, but I just don't think that's much talent.

2809
02:28:03,120 --> 02:28:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go to tomorrow and waste no time.

2810
02:28:08,320 --> 02:28:11,160
Speaker 2: One of my favorite games tomorrow. I love this game.

2811
02:28:11,280 --> 02:28:14,720
Speaker 2: I love Florida. I just think there are another class.

2812
02:28:15,360 --> 02:28:17,800
Speaker 2: I think they'll be up for that game. I think

2813
02:28:17,840 --> 02:28:20,480
Speaker 2: they named their score and I think they win by twenty.

2814
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:23,600
Speaker 7: Yeah. I can't I can't argue with you. I mean

2815
02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:25,760
Speaker 7: I really, I really can't argue with you. To me,

2816
02:28:25,840 --> 02:28:29,120
Speaker 7: Florida is a different class. I agree with you. I

2817
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:32,920
Speaker 7: think Florida. He's right there them and Duke. Who's the

2818
02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:34,920
Speaker 7: best team. I think you can argue it either way.

2819
02:28:35,360 --> 02:28:41,200
Speaker 7: But Florida offensively, defensively, well coached, well saying I think dad,

2820
02:28:41,240 --> 02:28:43,200
Speaker 7: you could say about Florida as a team. So to me,

2821
02:28:43,800 --> 02:28:46,280
Speaker 7: the only way I can look absolutely is the Florida side.

2822
02:28:46,280 --> 02:28:50,000
Speaker 7: I think Florida is probably gonna I think they're gonna

2823
02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:51,160
Speaker 7: be the hard, hardest team to beat me in for

2824
02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:51,760
Speaker 7: the tournament.

2825
02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:56,720
Speaker 3: Duke Baylor again, you know it can only look one way.

2826
02:28:57,959 --> 02:28:59,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, look, the game is going to be

2827
02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:01,520
Speaker 7: and that's twenty. My kids actually went to the game.

2828
02:29:01,560 --> 02:29:04,080
Speaker 7: They went to in North Carolina, so they got to

2829
02:29:04,120 --> 02:29:08,520
Speaker 7: see Duke in person. Yeah, I Duke looked. Duke is

2830
02:29:08,520 --> 02:29:11,280
Speaker 7: obviously it's probably gonna win the game and win the game.

2831
02:29:11,320 --> 02:29:14,959
Speaker 7: My margin. Baylor to me not a great team. To me,

2832
02:29:15,080 --> 02:29:17,359
Speaker 7: this is a game Duke probably should win in my opinion.

2833
02:29:17,400 --> 02:29:19,440
Speaker 7: Between if they don't win the game by at least

2834
02:29:19,480 --> 02:29:21,240
Speaker 7: nine or ten, I'll be really surprised. I think there's

2835
02:29:21,240 --> 02:29:23,600
Speaker 7: a chance they do win it by like seventeen eighteen,

2836
02:29:23,680 --> 02:29:25,720
Speaker 7: nineteen twenty. Only so that I can look at is

2837
02:29:25,720 --> 02:29:27,320
Speaker 7: the Duke said, I have no interest in backing a

2838
02:29:27,320 --> 02:29:29,520
Speaker 7: Baylor team. To me, it is really not good at all.

2839
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:31,760
Speaker 3: Kentucky Illinois.

2840
02:29:31,800 --> 02:29:33,960
Speaker 2: Illinois looked great last night, but you're a little bit

2841
02:29:33,959 --> 02:29:35,120
Speaker 2: of a jack one eye team.

2842
02:29:35,879 --> 02:29:37,120
Speaker 7: What line do you sing right now?

2843
02:29:37,160 --> 02:29:39,959
Speaker 3: Anthony Illinois one and a half?

2844
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:43,360
Speaker 7: Yeah? For me, it's interesting, OK, because I did not

2845
02:29:43,600 --> 02:29:44,000
Speaker 7: I went to.

2846
02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:45,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2847
02:29:45,800 --> 02:29:48,119
Speaker 7: Well, I'm actually one going the other way on that game.

2848
02:29:48,160 --> 02:29:50,680
Speaker 7: I think Kentucky is the better team, I think. I

2849
02:29:50,680 --> 02:29:53,240
Speaker 7: actually in my numbers, I had Kentucky minus two on

2850
02:29:53,320 --> 02:29:57,080
Speaker 7: my sheet, so Illinois being favored. I'm actually gonna so

2851
02:29:57,160 --> 02:29:59,039
Speaker 7: as we hang up this own, my good friend, I'm

2852
02:29:59,040 --> 02:30:01,160
Speaker 7: going to be betting Kentucky. I think the wrong side's favored.

2853
02:30:02,040 --> 02:30:05,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Uh, my last one to hit

2854
02:30:05,959 --> 02:30:09,080
Speaker 2: you before it turned over to FITZI. Saint Mary's and

2855
02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:12,120
Speaker 2: Bama Bama five and a half.

2856
02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:13,000
Speaker 3: I like St.

2857
02:30:13,040 --> 02:30:18,680
Speaker 7: Mary's game, you know, it's interesting. Alabama to me is

2858
02:30:18,680 --> 02:30:20,840
Speaker 7: a team again, it's just a matter of when it happens.

2859
02:30:20,959 --> 02:30:25,640
Speaker 7: I just don't love this Alabama team. They they just

2860
02:30:25,720 --> 02:30:28,320
Speaker 7: they're just they're so bad defensively and again they always

2861
02:30:28,320 --> 02:30:30,680
Speaker 7: had that Budger's chance with their offense. I get it.

2862
02:30:30,720 --> 02:30:33,280
Speaker 7: But Saint Mary's with coach Bennett, I think the game

2863
02:30:33,320 --> 02:30:35,680
Speaker 7: will be tight. I think they're going to be close. Uh.

2864
02:30:36,320 --> 02:30:38,440
Speaker 7: I am absolutely on the Saint Mary's side and actually

2865
02:30:38,520 --> 02:30:40,879
Speaker 7: think Saint Mary's has a pretty close to fifty. Took

2866
02:30:40,920 --> 02:30:42,320
Speaker 7: a chance to win the game out right, I'm gonna

2867
02:30:42,320 --> 02:30:42,760
Speaker 7: go that far.

2868
02:30:43,440 --> 02:30:47,279
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's great. What about Maryland? Colorado State? Maryland

2869
02:30:47,360 --> 02:30:48,520
Speaker 4: seven and a half points right now?

2870
02:30:50,600 --> 02:30:50,720
Speaker 5: Uh?

2871
02:30:50,879 --> 02:30:52,840
Speaker 7: You know, it's just a Colorado State played. You know,

2872
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:54,920
Speaker 7: they shot. They went on a really nice streak yesterday,

2873
02:30:54,920 --> 02:30:58,120
Speaker 7: taking threes against Memphis in the second half to get

2874
02:30:58,240 --> 02:31:01,160
Speaker 7: up a win. I don't think they're very good team Maryland. Look,

2875
02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:03,039
Speaker 7: I'll give Maryland credit. I didn't they were going to

2876
02:31:03,280 --> 02:31:06,600
Speaker 7: They actually obliterated Brand Canyon. I didn't see that coming.

2877
02:31:07,480 --> 02:31:09,720
Speaker 7: I was on the Grand Canyon. So you're saying Maryland

2878
02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:12,879
Speaker 7: really played a good game. You know, this is a

2879
02:31:12,920 --> 02:31:15,160
Speaker 7: tough game for me. I mean, Cold State's one I

2880
02:31:15,160 --> 02:31:18,840
Speaker 7: think eleven in a row. Now I'll lean Colorado State again.

2881
02:31:18,879 --> 02:31:20,160
Speaker 7: Not a game I'm personally going to bet.

2882
02:31:21,480 --> 02:31:24,240
Speaker 4: What about ole Miss, Iowa stay a six three matchup?

2883
02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:26,080
Speaker 4: I was saying five and a half on this one.

2884
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:28,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's just a i Awa state. They

2885
02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:31,280
Speaker 7: played well yesterday, but again it was against Flipscom who

2886
02:31:31,360 --> 02:31:33,119
Speaker 7: you know, like whatever I mean, as is a game

2887
02:31:33,160 --> 02:31:35,840
Speaker 7: they really should have won ole Miss. Uh, Like they

2888
02:31:36,120 --> 02:31:38,520
Speaker 7: they hurt my feeling just because I had North Carolina

2889
02:31:38,560 --> 02:31:41,080
Speaker 7: and North Side. I just didn't even actually crazy, they

2890
02:31:41,080 --> 02:31:43,440
Speaker 7: were down by twenty the entire game, card at the

2891
02:31:43,440 --> 02:31:44,400
Speaker 7: two with a minute to go.

2892
02:31:44,600 --> 02:31:46,480
Speaker 3: They did show up until they didn't show.

2893
02:31:46,360 --> 02:31:50,840
Speaker 7: Up until yeah the game, Yeah, yeah, I mean this

2894
02:31:50,879 --> 02:31:53,720
Speaker 7: is this is an interesting game. I have to lean

2895
02:31:53,800 --> 02:31:56,560
Speaker 7: ole Miss getting the points. I just don't trust this

2896
02:31:56,760 --> 02:31:59,880
Speaker 7: Iowa State version, a little banged up of winning by

2897
02:32:00,040 --> 02:32:03,080
Speaker 7: margin against a decent team. Michigan is just decent. Neither

2898
02:32:03,120 --> 02:32:05,119
Speaker 7: team is great. I don't like either team long from

2899
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:07,680
Speaker 7: the deportment. Someone has to win it. I'll say ole

2900
02:32:07,720 --> 02:32:09,520
Speaker 7: Miss covers the game, Iowa State wins it.

2901
02:32:10,600 --> 02:32:14,000
Speaker 4: Okay, then Michigan State the slow starts continue to haunt.

2902
02:32:14,600 --> 02:32:16,920
Speaker 4: They're favored by seven and a half against New Mexico.

2903
02:32:16,959 --> 02:32:17,400
Speaker 4: What do you think?

2904
02:32:18,959 --> 02:32:21,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean for me, this Michigan State team, You

2905
02:32:21,879 --> 02:32:24,080
Speaker 7: know what, again, they're a professional team when I mean

2906
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:26,320
Speaker 7: at the every single game they give a lunch pail

2907
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:30,080
Speaker 7: consistent effort. They started off slow yesterday against Brian, but

2908
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:32,520
Speaker 7: then they absolute because they have great depth to see

2909
02:32:32,800 --> 02:32:35,520
Speaker 7: the like they go like ninety ten deep. So to me,

2910
02:32:36,160 --> 02:32:38,280
Speaker 7: this to me is for me an easy call in

2911
02:32:38,320 --> 02:32:41,000
Speaker 7: Michigan State. I don't love New Mexico looks. They played

2912
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:42,320
Speaker 7: well yesterday against Martette.

2913
02:32:42,360 --> 02:32:42,840
Speaker 3: I get it.

2914
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:45,600
Speaker 7: But to me, I think Michigan State with this moe

2915
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:47,600
Speaker 7: by ten or eleven or so. I like Michigan State

2916
02:32:47,640 --> 02:32:49,720
Speaker 7: to cover. I think they're a very consistent team, and

2917
02:32:49,760 --> 02:32:52,560
Speaker 7: I don't trust New Mexico really to get this one

2918
02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:54,840
Speaker 7: done super quick.

2919
02:32:54,879 --> 02:32:57,080
Speaker 4: Oregon Arizona Arizona four and a half. What do you

2920
02:32:57,080 --> 02:32:59,440
Speaker 4: think Oregon Oregon?

2921
02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:02,080
Speaker 7: I think it's at the game easy for me.

2922
02:33:03,640 --> 02:33:05,959
Speaker 3: Why you like the Ducks? Eh, outright? I do?

2923
02:33:06,040 --> 02:33:08,200
Speaker 7: I think I think it's I'm not going to say outright.

2924
02:33:08,200 --> 02:33:10,200
Speaker 7: I think the line, my line should that should be

2925
02:33:10,240 --> 02:33:11,960
Speaker 7: closer to a point and a half. I think it's

2926
02:33:11,959 --> 02:33:14,280
Speaker 7: a fifty to fifty kind of game for slight Lean

2927
02:33:14,320 --> 02:33:17,120
Speaker 7: Arizona terms of who wins. But I like Oregon easy

2928
02:33:17,160 --> 02:33:17,880
Speaker 7: with the points.

2929
02:33:18,200 --> 02:33:18,520
Speaker 3: Nice.

2930
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:21,280
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, listen to have a great trip, enjoy

2931
02:33:21,320 --> 02:33:24,320
Speaker 2: yourself in good luck and the Hoopes appreciate you.

2932
02:33:24,320 --> 02:33:25,840
Speaker 7: Guys, have a great weak and good luck to everyone.

2933
02:33:26,200 --> 02:33:28,360
Speaker 2: All right, all right, fellas will be back to wrap

2934
02:33:28,400 --> 02:33:33,600
Speaker 2: it up, coming up next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2935
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:39,560
Speaker 4: Usually this song means that you know we're ending the show,

2936
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:41,840
Speaker 4: but also the last few weeks it's been like, oh man,

2937
02:33:41,879 --> 02:33:44,040
Speaker 4: this is over, this is over. I don't know. Today,

2938
02:33:44,080 --> 02:33:45,560
Speaker 4: I feel like we're just getting started, man.

2939
02:33:45,879 --> 02:33:46,119
Speaker 3: Happy.

2940
02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:49,360
Speaker 4: Yes, we've had some oranges we've made some adjustments. We're

2941
02:33:49,400 --> 02:33:51,800
Speaker 4: ready to go out there. Let's let's let's let's grab

2942
02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:54,360
Speaker 4: it and go. Come on now right ver good?

2943
02:33:55,200 --> 02:33:56,959
Speaker 2: Always like when you I always want you to come

2944
02:33:57,000 --> 02:33:59,880
Speaker 2: back first off of that. When we play my way,

2945
02:34:00,560 --> 02:34:03,760
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2946
02:34:03,800 --> 02:34:07,959
Speaker 2: forget for the best pregame show every week and be

2947
02:34:08,040 --> 02:34:12,480
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2948
02:34:12,480 --> 02:34:15,280
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2949
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:18,960
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2950
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:22,480
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2951
02:34:22,600 --> 02:34:26,480
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02:34:26,480 --> 02:34:31,320
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2953
02:34:31,320 --> 02:34:33,240
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2954
02:34:33,360 --> 02:34:39,600
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2955
02:34:39,640 --> 02:34:42,360
Speaker 2: What are you smelling? You smell anything? We just want

2956
02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:45,400
Speaker 2: to through all the games of the brain. What's your favorite?

2957
02:34:45,440 --> 02:34:46,600
Speaker 2: What's your favorite today?

2958
02:34:48,400 --> 02:34:51,600
Speaker 4: Man? I think obviously the coaching battle is the thing

2959
02:34:51,640 --> 02:34:55,520
Speaker 4: to watch today, you know, with Patino and Cal and

2960
02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:57,760
Speaker 4: you can't talk about it enough because what it means

2961
02:34:57,760 --> 02:34:59,840
Speaker 4: for where the game's been and where the games go

2962
02:35:00,280 --> 02:35:02,560
Speaker 4: and the fact that you have. I don't want to

2963
02:35:02,600 --> 02:35:05,800
Speaker 4: take it for granted, you know, because we have long

2964
02:35:05,840 --> 02:35:08,640
Speaker 4: conversations every time a coach walks away from the game

2965
02:35:08,760 --> 02:35:11,000
Speaker 4: about well, college sports have changed to the point that,

2966
02:35:11,480 --> 02:35:14,120
Speaker 4: you know, coaches, legendary coaches don't want to be involved.

2967
02:35:14,160 --> 02:35:16,800
Speaker 4: Like we hear that all the time. I don't know

2968
02:35:17,080 --> 02:35:20,720
Speaker 4: that every time a college football coach complains about their sport.

2969
02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:23,240
Speaker 4: I think a college basketball coach can come up and say,

2970
02:35:23,240 --> 02:35:27,000
Speaker 4: hold my beer, right, Like it's the roster are so small,

2971
02:35:27,840 --> 02:35:31,280
Speaker 4: it's such a difference, and its just it hits me

2972
02:35:32,840 --> 02:35:37,359
Speaker 4: just watching this weekend and you think about the the line,

2973
02:35:37,400 --> 02:35:40,480
Speaker 4: like you've got young coaches at Florida and even at Duke,

2974
02:35:40,600 --> 02:35:44,800
Speaker 4: like just replacing a legend, you know, for for whatever

2975
02:35:44,840 --> 02:35:48,040
Speaker 4: we think Klen Debor might end up being at Alabama.

2976
02:35:48,120 --> 02:35:50,480
Speaker 4: On the football side, I think we can acknowledge that

2977
02:35:50,560 --> 02:35:52,720
Speaker 4: whenever you're replacing a legend. Hell, if you did it

2978
02:35:52,720 --> 02:35:55,000
Speaker 4: in the NFL, if you tried to replace Belichick, all

2979
02:35:55,040 --> 02:35:57,680
Speaker 4: Jiro Meo did was get fired one year. In the

2980
02:35:57,720 --> 02:36:00,280
Speaker 4: fact that Shires got Duke right back to where Duke

2981
02:36:00,400 --> 02:36:03,720
Speaker 4: always has been, there's been no drop off. Yeah, and

2982
02:36:03,800 --> 02:36:07,480
Speaker 4: you replaced coach K like and you I just think

2983
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:11,400
Speaker 4: when we talk about this weekend, it is a real

2984
02:36:11,440 --> 02:36:15,680
Speaker 4: opportunity to appreciate where the sport is, where the coaching is,

2985
02:36:15,800 --> 02:36:18,920
Speaker 4: that there's this great balance between young guys rising and

2986
02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:21,320
Speaker 4: guys that we're seeing and we're learning about every week,

2987
02:36:21,400 --> 02:36:25,119
Speaker 4: but also mixed in with Patino and Cal and Izzo

2988
02:36:25,320 --> 02:36:28,439
Speaker 4: and like these these names that are synonymous with generations

2989
02:36:28,480 --> 02:36:31,560
Speaker 4: of college basketball that you know, they said last night

2990
02:36:31,600 --> 02:36:35,119
Speaker 4: and I'm Mizzo has gone to fifteen fine sweet sixteens

2991
02:36:35,160 --> 02:36:41,400
Speaker 4: in his twenty six years. That's that's just unparalleled consistency, right, Like,

2992
02:36:41,480 --> 02:36:44,039
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I think I've got my eye

2993
02:36:44,040 --> 02:36:46,920
Speaker 4: this weekend on the cheat code of college basketball, which is,

2994
02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:49,680
Speaker 4: do you have a coach that can figure out how

2995
02:36:49,680 --> 02:36:52,160
Speaker 4: to save your team when things are as as they

2996
02:36:52,200 --> 02:36:55,080
Speaker 4: could possibly be? And there's a handful of them that

2997
02:36:55,120 --> 02:36:57,240
Speaker 4: are gonna be like we get another at least one

2998
02:36:57,280 --> 02:36:59,600
Speaker 4: more game of Hurley in this tournament too, Like some

2999
02:36:59,720 --> 02:37:03,240
Speaker 4: of the best brilliant minds in the game are on display.

3000
02:37:03,320 --> 02:37:06,920
Speaker 4: And and you know, in the NBA world that changes

3001
02:37:06,959 --> 02:37:10,240
Speaker 4: every three seconds. In college basketball, man, it just it

3002
02:37:10,240 --> 02:37:13,040
Speaker 4: feels like there's we're seeing them mount Rushmore this weekend,

3003
02:37:13,080 --> 02:37:13,840
Speaker 4: and I love that.

3004
02:37:14,760 --> 02:37:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do you think that the college game is

3005
02:37:18,800 --> 02:37:21,680
Speaker 2: on the rebound with the with the NIL and the fact.

3006
02:37:21,400 --> 02:37:24,240
Speaker 3: That kids are even oers moved, that kids are going

3007
02:37:24,320 --> 02:37:24,800
Speaker 3: to stay.

3008
02:37:27,200 --> 02:37:30,640
Speaker 4: I think the NIL opportunity is so big. What you're

3009
02:37:30,640 --> 02:37:32,160
Speaker 4: going to do is you're going to keep that fringe

3010
02:37:32,240 --> 02:37:35,720
Speaker 4: kid longer, you know, And that's there's an opportunity because

3011
02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:39,280
Speaker 4: those fringe kids can develop into really good college basketball players.

3012
02:37:39,440 --> 02:37:41,920
Speaker 4: And so you know that that's where I think part

3013
02:37:41,920 --> 02:37:45,520
Speaker 4: of your opportunity comes. And and for these coaches, you know,

3014
02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:49,720
Speaker 4: you're constantly trying to figure out the line on how

3015
02:37:49,760 --> 02:37:51,720
Speaker 4: to play the transfer portal and whether you want your

3016
02:37:51,720 --> 02:37:54,160
Speaker 4: team to be younger, your team to be old, whether

3017
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:55,360
Speaker 4: you know how you want to build it. Do you

3018
02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:56,840
Speaker 4: want to build what guys have been playing a lot

3019
02:37:56,840 --> 02:37:58,920
Speaker 4: of college basketball and bring a mid major to a

3020
02:37:58,959 --> 02:38:02,040
Speaker 4: major tape? Do you want to continue to use high

3021
02:38:02,040 --> 02:38:05,359
Speaker 4: school recruiting to build Like there's there's such an individualistic

3022
02:38:05,400 --> 02:38:09,520
Speaker 4: opportunity to make a program in your own reflection that

3023
02:38:09,720 --> 02:38:13,200
Speaker 4: I think that's that's part of what honestly, if you're

3024
02:38:13,240 --> 02:38:16,560
Speaker 4: a college basketball coach, if you can figure this Rubik's

3025
02:38:16,560 --> 02:38:19,360
Speaker 4: Cube out you can have sustained success. It's really an

3026
02:38:19,400 --> 02:38:20,039
Speaker 4: incredible thing.

3027
02:38:21,120 --> 02:38:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you really can. You run up the Cow

3028
02:38:24,959 --> 02:38:29,000
Speaker 2: and the Patino. Who do you like out of those two?

3029
02:38:29,400 --> 02:38:32,840
Speaker 2: And it's funny because they even though Patino got Cal

3030
02:38:32,959 --> 02:38:36,280
Speaker 2: the job at U Bass, those two have never been shy.

3031
02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:39,520
Speaker 2: You know, obviously they're both the Louisville and Kentucky, but

3032
02:38:40,040 --> 02:38:42,160
Speaker 2: they have never been shy about how they're not fond

3033
02:38:42,160 --> 02:38:44,760
Speaker 2: of each other, which is cracks me out.

3034
02:38:45,280 --> 02:38:46,360
Speaker 3: Which one do you like?

3035
02:38:47,959 --> 02:38:51,400
Speaker 4: I mean the in the game, I like Saint John's.

3036
02:38:51,440 --> 02:38:53,320
Speaker 4: I think Saint John's is going to make this thing

3037
02:38:53,360 --> 02:38:56,520
Speaker 4: physical and it's going to be ugly, and Patino's gonna win.

3038
02:38:56,720 --> 02:38:58,320
Speaker 4: If I had to pick one of the two coaches

3039
02:38:58,360 --> 02:38:59,879
Speaker 4: that I think is better right now, I still think

3040
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:00,440
Speaker 4: it Cal.

3041
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. So you got Cal over Patino.

3042
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got Cal over Patino, But I got Saint

3043
02:39:05,879 --> 02:39:07,400
Speaker 4: John's over Arkansas. How do you like that?

3044
02:39:07,760 --> 02:39:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

3045
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:10,360
Speaker 2: No, I listened, Well that makes sense. I like I

3046
02:39:10,400 --> 02:39:12,960
Speaker 2: love Saint Johns today. Anyway, all right, that's gonna do

3047
02:39:13,160 --> 02:39:16,039
Speaker 2: for us. Everybody, have a wonderful rest of your weekend.

3048
02:39:16,520 --> 02:39:18,640
Speaker 2: We love you, We'll see you next Saturday,