1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:31,239 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. 2 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:33,719 Speaker 2: Tune in is Matt Smith and Paul Perillo offer in 3 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:36,439 Speaker 2: depth interviews with some of the greatest players and coaches 4 00:00:36,439 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 2: in New England Patriots history. 5 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,638 Speaker 3: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 6 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: Mike Gravel. 7 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 8 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 9 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 4: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 10 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 4: hoy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 11 00:00:50,519 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 4: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 12 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 5: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 13 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 2: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 14 00:01:00,559 --> 00:01:01,559 Speaker 2: We'll be after. 15 00:01:01,599 --> 00:01:02,239 Speaker 1: Watching a film. 16 00:01:02,279 --> 00:01:03,999 Speaker 3: What was it like for you to kind of see 17 00:01:03,999 --> 00:01:06,279 Speaker 3: what you were able to do as an offense? And 18 00:01:06,919 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 3: how do you prepare this week now with the uncertainty. 19 00:01:09,519 --> 00:01:10,958 Speaker 5: Around around Drake? 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we continue to try to build off 21 00:01:14,399 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: of what what How we finished the game last week 22 00:01:16,878 --> 00:01:20,078 Speaker 1: and you know, and it's it's always you know, prepared 23 00:01:20,119 --> 00:01:22,359 Speaker 1: like your starter, next man up and U you know 24 00:01:22,399 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: that doesn't change this week. 25 00:01:25,559 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 5: So how do you see Budi growing mature as a 26 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 5: player and as a person. Since giving a summer twork is. 27 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: Really yeah, I mean, you know, obviously not being a 28 00:01:37,039 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: part of the offense first couple of weeks and still 29 00:01:38,999 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: sticking sticking to it and and you know and putting 30 00:01:42,279 --> 00:01:44,519 Speaker 1: the work in on on the practice field, and a 31 00:01:44,559 --> 00:01:46,079 Speaker 1: lot of that stuff starting to come to for wishing 32 00:01:46,119 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 1: for him, you know, as a as a teammate of his. 33 00:01:49,039 --> 00:01:51,399 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's obviously, you know, really rewarding to 34 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:54,399 Speaker 1: see that when it finally starts to go your way, 35 00:01:54,439 --> 00:01:55,479 Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, he's making the most 36 00:01:55,479 --> 00:01:56,199 Speaker 1: of his opportunity. 37 00:01:57,199 --> 00:02:00,039 Speaker 2: The last couple of days, I was different, were they 38 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: just I guess not having mandatory. 39 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:03,119 Speaker 1: Meetings on Monday? 40 00:02:03,599 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 5: Like your routine probably doesn't change that much, But was 41 00:02:06,959 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 5: it such a nice. 42 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:08,279 Speaker 4: Change up that? 43 00:02:08,358 --> 00:02:10,999 Speaker 1: Do you It was nice to be able to sleep 44 00:02:11,038 --> 00:02:12,279 Speaker 1: in a little bit more, get a little bit more 45 00:02:12,279 --> 00:02:14,279 Speaker 1: extra sleep, that's for sure. Other than that the route, 46 00:02:14,279 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: like you said, the routine doesn't change. 47 00:02:16,079 --> 00:02:19,319 Speaker 2: You feel like the energy like the different energy. 48 00:02:19,719 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like guys are a little bit more arrested, 49 00:02:21,839 --> 00:02:23,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a lot easier to 50 00:02:23,559 --> 00:02:25,279 Speaker 1: come in after a win rather than a loss, you 51 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:26,559 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I guess the energy in the 52 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: vibe is obviously ramping up more and more. So, uh, 53 00:02:31,159 --> 00:02:32,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's something that we've got to build on 54 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:35,039 Speaker 1: and try to earn the right to have this feeling 55 00:02:35,079 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: again next week. 56 00:02:36,999 --> 00:02:39,719 Speaker 5: Did you go be You're talking about self belief after 57 00:02:39,758 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 5: the win on Sunday. I'm curious in your career what 58 00:02:42,559 --> 00:02:44,999 Speaker 5: you've learned about yourself how to deal with the ebbs 59 00:02:44,999 --> 00:02:46,879 Speaker 5: and the flows of an NFL career, whether it's noise 60 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 5: in the media, whether it's what happens on the field. 61 00:02:49,959 --> 00:02:52,159 Speaker 5: How do you keep yourself at that happy meetings? 62 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,478 Speaker 1: You know, having the right people around me obviously that's one, 63 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: and then you know, and trusting and believing the things 64 00:02:59,679 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: that got me to the point that I am in 65 00:03:00,999 --> 00:03:03,478 Speaker 1: my career. You know, you don't just look up and 66 00:03:03,519 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: being the league for nine years, so you know, I 67 00:03:07,519 --> 00:03:09,798 Speaker 1: just stick to what I've known that has gotten me 68 00:03:09,879 --> 00:03:12,999 Speaker 1: this far and what I believe the that'll help prepare 69 00:03:13,038 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: my career even longer. Uh So, you know, I just 70 00:03:15,959 --> 00:03:16,759 Speaker 1: believe in myself. 71 00:03:16,999 --> 00:03:20,159 Speaker 3: A lot of times, they're like a veteran player in 72 00:03:20,239 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 3: any sport maybe sit for a couple of games for 73 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:24,758 Speaker 3: whatever reasons. Injuries, and things like that, and they tend 74 00:03:24,799 --> 00:03:27,439 Speaker 3: to be able to learn some stuff that maybe that 75 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 3: they weren't looking at when they were in that situation 76 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 3: and come to you from that seeing from as far 77 00:03:33,119 --> 00:03:35,319 Speaker 3: as opposed to being in the thick of the battles 78 00:03:35,359 --> 00:03:36,319 Speaker 3: for a couple of games. 79 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:42,719 Speaker 1: Uh, No, nothing that that that strikes me, I would say, helbe. 80 00:03:42,359 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 5: There's quite a few young guys who are stepping into. 81 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:46,919 Speaker 4: Prominent roles of this team. 82 00:03:47,359 --> 00:03:49,919 Speaker 2: With your experience in the league, what perspective do you 83 00:03:50,079 --> 00:03:52,799 Speaker 2: try to have led to them during this happy season? 84 00:03:53,359 --> 00:03:55,759 Speaker 1: Keep growing, you know, and keep keep trying to get better, 85 00:03:56,279 --> 00:03:59,479 Speaker 1: keep you know, with the old saying of like stay 86 00:03:59,479 --> 00:04:01,999 Speaker 1: green and you know, and stay stay with the ability 87 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:04,239 Speaker 1: that you're you're still learning out there, you know obviously, 88 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:06,959 Speaker 1: you know, when you when you learn from the good 89 00:04:06,999 --> 00:04:09,639 Speaker 1: plays obviously, but also the bad plays and being able 90 00:04:09,679 --> 00:04:13,039 Speaker 1: to you know, you know, shake off the bad plays 91 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:15,079 Speaker 1: and and move on to a good play and and 92 00:04:15,079 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 1: and also learning why those bad plays happen and make 93 00:04:18,239 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 1: make the most of the next opportunity that you get. 94 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:22,199 Speaker 1: What are some of your takeaways when you look at 95 00:04:22,199 --> 00:04:27,399 Speaker 1: best deep really good defense. Uh, you know, we're talking 96 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 1: about it. I think they start, Uh, they're up there 97 00:04:30,199 --> 00:04:33,238 Speaker 1: and starting fast on as a team obviously, but definitely 98 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 1: has a defense, a lot of good talent. Uh you know, 99 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have one of the top 100 00:04:37,558 --> 00:04:40,959 Speaker 1: fifteen defensive players in the league. And Jeffrey and uh, 101 00:04:40,999 --> 00:04:43,118 Speaker 1: you know, he pops up off the film. I remember 102 00:04:43,159 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: playing him back in my coach days, and you know, 103 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: he always gave us a lot of fits. And you know, 104 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: it's no surprise that he's still playing at that at 105 00:04:51,479 --> 00:04:55,518 Speaker 1: this level this part of his career. But you know 106 00:04:55,519 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: a lot of other good guys that are playing League 107 00:04:57,359 --> 00:04:57,759 Speaker 1: of Football. 108 00:04:58,678 --> 00:04:59,398 Speaker 4: What did it mean to. 109 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:00,438 Speaker 3: Get the game prayer? 110 00:05:00,719 --> 00:05:03,598 Speaker 5: What did it mean to get the game ball on Sunday? 111 00:05:04,078 --> 00:05:08,319 Speaker 1: It was cool, you know, obviously not expecting no, I 112 00:05:08,359 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: won't say not expecting to play, but obviously it wasn't 113 00:05:11,479 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: in my Bengo card before the game. But uh, uh, 114 00:05:15,039 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: you know, just to go out there and make the 115 00:05:16,719 --> 00:05:19,519 Speaker 1: most of the opportunity. You mentioned being in the league 116 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:20,278 Speaker 1: for a nine years. 117 00:05:20,318 --> 00:05:21,879 Speaker 5: There are a lot of guys who are talented that 118 00:05:21,999 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 5: don't enjoy. 119 00:05:22,678 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 3: Saying ballot you know, I mean, what's been the key 120 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: for you to be in season nine? 121 00:05:28,159 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 5: And talented? 122 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:33,398 Speaker 1: To have those stay keep learning, enjoy learning. 123 00:05:33,599 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: Uh. 124 00:05:34,039 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: You know, I love learning about the game of football. 125 00:05:36,198 --> 00:05:38,319 Speaker 1: I love learning how to be a better, better man, 126 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:41,879 Speaker 1: better teammate, better player. Uh. And I think that that is, 127 00:05:42,919 --> 00:05:45,398 Speaker 1: you know, helped me so far. Uh. You know when 128 00:05:46,039 --> 00:05:49,478 Speaker 1: I think, I like I said, I think those things 129 00:05:49,479 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: have just I think it's just that. I think it's 130 00:05:51,318 --> 00:05:54,118 Speaker 1: just learned continuing to learn. I think that's really that's 131 00:05:54,198 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: kept me in the league. 132 00:05:56,639 --> 00:06:00,118 Speaker 4: To Drake, if you're looking in practice today, practice for 133 00:06:00,198 --> 00:06:04,759 Speaker 4: longer than thurnnuts, how does that change your practice approach 134 00:06:04,958 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: or regimen or anything to that. 135 00:06:07,999 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I guess I got to wait thirty 136 00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:14,558 Speaker 1: minutes to start practicing. That's about it. Other than that, nothing, Kobe, 137 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:15,639 Speaker 1: is it tough. 138 00:06:15,479 --> 00:06:18,318 Speaker 4: For players to kind of roll with the trade that line? 139 00:06:18,359 --> 00:06:20,878 Speaker 4: I mean understanding what it is, what it means. But 140 00:06:21,039 --> 00:06:24,878 Speaker 4: is it tough for guys to news players and then 141 00:06:25,678 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 4: kind of come back the next week and you know, 142 00:06:28,678 --> 00:06:30,079 Speaker 4: like all's all's good. 143 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:33,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's tough when you know you're around 144 00:06:33,799 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: a guy, uh, and then they get traded. But you 145 00:06:36,719 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: obviously understand that's part of the I mean I got 146 00:06:38,359 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: traded the first game of the season, so I didn't 147 00:06:40,438 --> 00:06:42,238 Speaker 1: get a chance to go through the season, but uh, 148 00:06:42,799 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely it definitely takes a toll. But 149 00:06:45,039 --> 00:06:46,999 Speaker 1: as as a being a professional, you know, you got 150 00:06:47,078 --> 00:06:50,118 Speaker 1: to kind of roll with the punches and in certain 151 00:06:50,318 --> 00:06:52,639 Speaker 1: aspects pick up a slack and then and other aspects, 152 00:06:52,678 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: you know, you just gotta you know, turn the page 153 00:06:54,198 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: and just keep going. 154 00:06:55,919 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: You super Joe Bill, what's it like to come in 155 00:06:58,719 --> 00:07:02,439 Speaker 3: as as a third quarterback into it? You first year, 156 00:07:02,479 --> 00:07:04,199 Speaker 3: you're kind of in that same situation. 157 00:07:04,399 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: You're trying to do and learn quickly. Learn literally that's it, 158 00:07:08,999 --> 00:07:11,639 Speaker 1: you know, That's all I try to do is learning 159 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:14,639 Speaker 1: and never know how it turns out. What do you 160 00:07:14,679 --> 00:07:18,959 Speaker 1: see from him as far as what just development ways approaching? Again, 161 00:07:19,399 --> 00:07:21,519 Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's learning, getting better, uh 162 00:07:21,559 --> 00:07:23,598 Speaker 1: you know, taking advantage of his reps on the practice field, 163 00:07:23,599 --> 00:07:27,799 Speaker 1: and you know, and I think that's probably about it, right, 164 00:07:28,919 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 1: just the virtual reality that's that's in your game preference. Yeah, 165 00:07:32,239 --> 00:07:35,639 Speaker 1: I'll do that. I don't even play video games, so 166 00:07:35,639 --> 00:07:36,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if put a head set on. 167 00:07:37,679 --> 00:07:39,039 Speaker 4: We're like a big picture of question. 168 00:07:39,119 --> 00:07:43,959 Speaker 2: But throwing back just seven hundred and fifty nine asser, 169 00:07:44,559 --> 00:07:46,279 Speaker 2: do you ever think about like the best. 170 00:07:47,078 --> 00:07:53,719 Speaker 1: Video, Uh, the best throw? Oh no, that's nine years 171 00:07:53,799 --> 00:07:55,439 Speaker 1: just a long time, man, I don't know how many. 172 00:07:56,559 --> 00:07:59,158 Speaker 1: I think all of them were good throws, right, none, 173 00:07:59,239 --> 00:07:59,919 Speaker 1: we're bad. 174 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:03,639 Speaker 5: Because we're talking on just a general discussion. 175 00:08:03,679 --> 00:08:05,999 Speaker 4: Like the play the booty just give him the situation. 176 00:08:08,239 --> 00:08:11,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely was not one of my best throws. 177 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:13,159 Speaker 1: I think it was, like I said, like I said 178 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:14,719 Speaker 1: after the game, I think Booty did the hard part 179 00:08:14,719 --> 00:08:17,599 Speaker 1: on that play and making that catch. So I mean, 180 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:20,439 Speaker 1: I mean that the ball died and uh, you know 181 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:23,039 Speaker 1: he had to go to the ground. Obviously my legs 182 00:08:23,119 --> 00:08:26,518 Speaker 1: I can't put my legs into the ball. But bless you, 183 00:08:27,119 --> 00:08:29,039 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I think he made the hard part 184 00:08:29,078 --> 00:08:30,838 Speaker 1: in making the catch. 185 00:08:31,719 --> 00:08:32,279 Speaker 3: Final question. 186 00:08:32,839 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 4: He's kind of stood out there in some of the 187 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 4: ending game situations, Keishaw Movies made sure he's looking for 188 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:38,279 Speaker 4: the official to get the ball. 189 00:08:38,359 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: Is that's something you guys work on the practice or 190 00:08:40,319 --> 00:08:41,999 Speaker 1: is that just kind of something you know today? Yeah, 191 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: that's what we do in practice. 192 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:47,838 Speaker 5: Yeah, Receiver, just the whole team kind of rally behind 193 00:08:47,879 --> 00:08:49,759 Speaker 5: you in this last game. I mean, they alsoked so 194 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:52,119 Speaker 5: highly thought you after as well, I just what was 195 00:08:52,119 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 5: that like to have their support. 196 00:08:53,319 --> 00:08:54,799 Speaker 1: Oh, it was good. I mean it's good at any 197 00:08:54,839 --> 00:08:58,479 Speaker 1: time to have their support. Yeah. I mean it was 198 00:08:59,078 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: trying to go win the game, so I really that's 199 00:09:00,639 --> 00:09:02,359 Speaker 1: all it really mattered. I think they wanted to win too, 200 00:09:02,439 --> 00:09:07,279 Speaker 1: so it was it was a good day. Yeah. 201 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 2: Patriots Playbook join John Rook as he brings you all 202 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:13,919 Speaker 2: the latest Patriots talking an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 203 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,958 Speaker 2: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 204 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:19,039 Speaker 2: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 205 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: state of the team. 206 00:09:19,759 --> 00:09:22,519 Speaker 3: But where the Patriots are concerned, Let's just get one 207 00:09:22,599 --> 00:09:25,359 Speaker 3: thing done, and let's get it done right, and then. 208 00:09:25,239 --> 00:09:26,759 Speaker 1: We can worry about versatility. 209 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:28,078 Speaker 2: Am I lying to anybody here? 210 00:09:28,359 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done. 211 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:32,479 Speaker 2: Let's get one thing done right, and then we can 212 00:09:32,599 --> 00:09:33,119 Speaker 2: move along. 213 00:09:33,159 --> 00:09:34,639 Speaker 1: That's kind of my biggest thing. 214 00:09:34,719 --> 00:09:37,359 Speaker 2: Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts.