WEBVTT - Ep 20: The Girl

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<v Speaker 1>Novel.

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<v Speaker 2>This show contains adult material, references to drugs and swearing.

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<v Speaker 3>You have been warned.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how confident you are. You won't throw

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<v Speaker 1>me into a kayak.

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<v Speaker 2>Say if you're going on a date tomorrow, Ah, I

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<v Speaker 2>said to you. You can't do anything involving alcohol, food.

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<v Speaker 3>What would the date be?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck him around me?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a savage. Are you bored of modern dating?

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<v Speaker 2>Meeting the same people from the same apps in the

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<v Speaker 2>same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your

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<v Speaker 2>house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's

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<v Speaker 2>time to change the narrative on how we find love.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to start looking for love in all the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only

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<v Speaker 2>picking people who are the total opposite of my type.

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<v Speaker 2>And after twenty eight of these dates in two months,

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<v Speaker 2>will I find that special someone? Or well, this experiment

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<v Speaker 2>proved I should just give up on dating altogether. It's

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<v Speaker 2>time to find out. I'm Grace Campbell and this is

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight dates later.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, my darling Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello there, my sweet baby Grace.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like this voice?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>You sound like you're holding in a massive shit I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I always have or is it holding me in.

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<v Speaker 3>Holding you together?

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<v Speaker 1>Ages?

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<v Speaker 3>Actually that's good changing your diet. Ummmmmm, No, that's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know what's happened.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Ibs like, not not that I'm a doctor, but like

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<v Speaker 2>it's also quite linked to anxiety, like stress and anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe we're just feeling less amis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've actually reached balance in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good. Okay, so you start this.

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<v Speaker 1>One, damn. Okay, So today you went on a date

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<v Speaker 1>with a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous. This was really really actually I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed this day. I've never been on a date with

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<v Speaker 2>a woman, Like I've gotten with women, but I've never

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<v Speaker 2>dated a woman. But it's definitely something that.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I know, like having so many gay friends, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that this is a real what I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was the only one, Dan, I'm in so many

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<v Speaker 2>WhatsApp groups where it's just me and gay men.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's called like dick pigs.

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<v Speaker 3>Dick pigs.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a weird, sort of confusing situation which I've

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<v Speaker 2>had with girls before, where because you're bonding, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're also just bonding and you could be friends right where.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like we could have been flatting, but I

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<v Speaker 2>also didn't know because I was like, we just could

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<v Speaker 2>be just like friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like my lines with men are so much

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<v Speaker 2>more obvious because I don't really have male friends anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I've hugged them all. Yeah, And I think it's also

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<v Speaker 1>like that thing of like like I'm quite flirtatious all

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I know you have this a lot with

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<v Speaker 3>straight men.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby. I went to a fucking a straight wedding the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. This is the Beita, and what was said

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<v Speaker 1>to me. This guy was like, oh, hey, I like

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<v Speaker 1>talking to you. It's quite flirty. And I was like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, yeah, I think I'm probably like

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent gay, and I was like cool. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like and you're the kind of guy that if

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<v Speaker 1>iways go like, I've tried sex with you, like my type.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like cool. And then he was like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe five percent and I was like maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>wait for that five percent then and he was like

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do it, and I was like, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming on to you.

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<v Speaker 3>This did not happen to God. That's insane to God.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, baby, Also, how can you be like

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<v Speaker 3>you're my type?

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<v Speaker 2>I would get with you, but now my percentage of

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<v Speaker 2>decrease because don't you dare think I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 2>with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but shut the fuck up?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that giving me?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>When was I even trying to get with you?

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<v Speaker 2>You've just come up to me and basically told me

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<v Speaker 2>you fancy me, balls are rejecting me all in one's

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<v Speaker 2>under Yeah, it's like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, sir. Yeah, I really want to I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to have sex with you and eat out that dirty,

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<v Speaker 1>haunted wicker basket of an ass. You're okay, no hygiene, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you meet? What was she like? What

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<v Speaker 1>was the vibe?

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<v Speaker 2>I was set up with her, so it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, recommended by a friend. She is always a

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<v Speaker 2>nicer feeling than meeting someone online. And I thought, you exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>And she was so like gorgeous and also so stylish.

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<v Speaker 2>She was wearing this coade that like I would do

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<v Speaker 2>anything for anything and anything, I'd murder her form No

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<v Speaker 2>I'm drinking, but she was gorgeous. She looks like have

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<v Speaker 2>you watched The Marvelous Miss Masil?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a little bit so she looked like.

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<v Speaker 3>The the main actress in that.

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<v Speaker 2>His name has left me, but I think it's Rachel something,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe I'm making that up. She looked just like

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<v Speaker 2>she had this really striking, like amazingly pretty face.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope to God one day someone describes me as that.

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<v Speaker 1>I described you as that amazingly pretty fair.

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<v Speaker 2>You said to me earlier that somebody told you that

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<v Speaker 2>they wish that they'd met you before they got.

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<v Speaker 1>Their nose done. Yeah, because the would have my nose. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a great nose?

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<v Speaker 3>You have a great nurse, as do I.

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<v Speaker 1>As to you. It's two beautiful girls recording as Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>God is good if she's there.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, we sat down. How to drink? She wasn't drinking,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I didn't either.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a non alcoholic beer.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're wondering, Wow, the evolution of self, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>look at me at the growth.

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<v Speaker 3>My type is very varied.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think at the core of like everyone I've

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<v Speaker 4>ever dated, is confidence. Yeah, people who like themselves and.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to start themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>I like throwing people into situations like yeah, you're part

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<v Speaker 4>and seeing how they react to them. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that being like okay, I know now because you can

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<v Speaker 4>like go on like what mean like social city, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>social situations like I do like let's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>go kayaking or something something where it's not just you

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<v Speaker 4>sat down having drink, because any could be anyone of.

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<v Speaker 3>That fl and it is so easy to perform.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's because men are a plague,

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<v Speaker 1>but straight away from like love the dates that I've

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<v Speaker 1>we've listened to, I love her.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her no. And she has such a nice voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she's like there's an energy to it and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like nice.

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<v Speaker 3>But do you know she was like younger than us.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I am twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>She was so emotionally evolved.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, but imagine saying like my type is

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<v Speaker 2>confident people like, oh, it's such a great thing to say.

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<v Speaker 2>And you are so aware of yourself and you have

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<v Speaker 2>high standards of behavior, like you want people to a

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<v Speaker 2>certain selves and you know that you like challenging people

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<v Speaker 2>like she's so self reflective.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I feel like I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff like that, but in a self destructive way where

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<v Speaker 2>like I'll like someone and so I'll throw them in

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<v Speaker 2>a situation to maybe sabotage the relationship, because like I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take them to a dinner bar of all of my

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<v Speaker 2>crazy friends who takes shrooms and end up like pretending

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<v Speaker 2>to faint.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I was not there. That was not me. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't care how confident you are, you won't

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<v Speaker 1>throw me into a kayak. To be honest, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>have I what is like a good like between you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like nice tip a tap?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember you spoke about a date that you went

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<v Speaker 2>on where you went to like a game's cafe with

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<v Speaker 2>like loads of games. Oh yeah, but what apart from that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what would be OK, say, if you're going on

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<v Speaker 2>a date tomorrow, I said to you, you can't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything involving alcohol.

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<v Speaker 3>Food, what would the date be?

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? For me, I like to go see something like

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<v Speaker 1>I quite like my first day will chat catch up,

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<v Speaker 1>like get to know each other. The second day, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to like go see something so we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something present and like a culture experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But would you because then I'm like going to see

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<v Speaker 2>something like a film or the theater.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't speak through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I quite like that sometimes. But I quite like

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<v Speaker 1>someone's like because it says a lot about someone how

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<v Speaker 1>they react to like art, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if they have opinion of something, and like, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I like someone to have a creative vocabulary and like

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<v Speaker 1>so I can like connect with them by sharing similar

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<v Speaker 1>creative passions.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And also you can see the kind of like intellectual

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<v Speaker 2>level that they're on on how they sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>respond to things and interpret things exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's also nicely in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>dating is experiencing something new, So I wouldn't mind someone

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<v Speaker 1>being there, like, hey, have you ever done this? And

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<v Speaker 1>as long as it's not like I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>something to sport based, like I don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything exercise based really, but like if they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to try this out? But yeah, that sounds real.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun, I do agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like because I and we both have like

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<v Speaker 2>grown up in a culture that's so oriented around alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just for me if somebody said, hey, should we

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<v Speaker 2>go this do this like left field thing that I've

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<v Speaker 2>never done before, my immediate mind reaction would be like ick,

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<v Speaker 2>ick something wrong, something wrong, something wrong, because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>cool thing is to just go for a drink, but

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<v Speaker 2>actually it's so basic. Yeah, and like she said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really easy to perform as the person you want them

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<v Speaker 2>to think you are at a drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it can be so boring just saying the

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<v Speaker 1>same fucking thing again and again and again. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>quite nice to do something and like experience something first

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<v Speaker 1>hand together.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I've got friends who like meet someone and

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<v Speaker 1>then the person's just like, I'm going away tomorrow, want

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<v Speaker 1>to come bitch someone take me away?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is that happened to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I don't know. It's never happened to me either.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I guess, like there is the element of safety,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not sure I would just go away with

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<v Speaker 2>like a complete stranger. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>True, But I mean, if you're going to try and

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<v Speaker 1>kill me, maybe I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe let's just do it somewhere home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't mind if you're taking me some exotic

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<v Speaker 1>and then murder me. It's like I always say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to murder me, just fuck me first,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I realized that for like the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 2>day one of my boobs had been.

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<v Speaker 3>My nipples out. I'm wearing the smallest bra.

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<v Speaker 2>Man missed this man in the public like my nipples out,

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<v Speaker 2>so he said something.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It was by accident, but I would like, but would

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<v Speaker 2>you Okay? For example, I was having mis argument with

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<v Speaker 2>someone the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were with someone and they had.

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<v Speaker 2>Really bad breath, would you tell them?

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<v Speaker 4>If it was a friend, yeah, If it was someone

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<v Speaker 4>you were getting with, would you tell them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah. I think it was like a stranger and they.

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<v Speaker 4>Had their nipple out or they had bad breath. I

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<v Speaker 4>would never say anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know know, I wouldn't say I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely want to say a stranger, you have bad breath,

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<v Speaker 2>because why are your breath?

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<v Speaker 1>Why can I smell your breath?

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<v Speaker 3>Go away from me?

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<v Speaker 2>But like I think I had this argument with my

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<v Speaker 2>friend because she got with this guy and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting.

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<v Speaker 1>My bait.

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<v Speaker 2>And she she was like messaging me like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>he's in my bed and his breast well so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so I don't fucking brush.

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<v Speaker 3>His seeve like that's fine, You're allowed to stay. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, oh you can borrow my teeth.

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<v Speaker 4>Br you can kiss me, thank you very much, not

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<v Speaker 4>smelling your fucking brath.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so your nick was out, but the important question

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<v Speaker 1>is was it your good tip?

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<v Speaker 3>Both are good, first of all, don't offend me.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was broad daylight, daytime, kids could see me,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can understand, like why it would be a

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<v Speaker 2>bit in appropriate for one of my tips to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, I guess. But everyone needs in education. Sometimes that is.

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<v Speaker 2>True, and you know it's lucky them for it to

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<v Speaker 2>be like my boot Yeah what too great tips fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Look me at my vape, look at my mape addtion

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<v Speaker 1>to vaping. Oh god, I was like trying to open

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<v Speaker 1>a lost mary look like the tip like the foil package,

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<v Speaker 1>and I cut my lip on it and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>an injury for being gen z. Wow. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, after COVID, I lost my smele so much,

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<v Speaker 4>so I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell him I don't like someone smell. I'm like you're like, yeah, no, idea, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>In my line, I don't date one because yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want Why I was seeing this guy and I

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<v Speaker 4>was so into him, maybe like him, And then like

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<v Speaker 4>fourth time we met off and we like got together

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like whoa, Like he'd been at work

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<v Speaker 4>all day and like fair enough to get another chower.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was like he literally stay disgusted, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>really like every part of my body is like get

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<v Speaker 4>this person away.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a situation before where someone's had bad breath,

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<v Speaker 1>like we were like hooking up, and I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why. I this is so many to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out it myself, right, I please too much, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>get worried about offending somebody, especially in an intimate environment

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<v Speaker 1>that they might not like me, or like they might

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<v Speaker 1>like go or something very much giving Daddy, why did

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<v Speaker 1>you leave? But like this person had bad breath and

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<v Speaker 1>it really took me out. But I just couldn't be like, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>have you already eaten? Ass? So did you eat as

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<v Speaker 1>before I came? Because you're putting the hell in helotosis?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, yeah it was, But i't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>just in those moments like I wish I was confident

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<v Speaker 1>of It's like it's like hair cut, right, there's moments

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<v Speaker 1>like cut in your hair and you're like love it

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like I hate this.

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<v Speaker 2>But to that point, why would you be worried about

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<v Speaker 2>offending someone when their breath is really bad, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like you should more save the situation,

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, because otherwise you're never going to see them

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<v Speaker 2>again because their breath's not like shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I remember one time, like I was seeing this

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<v Speaker 1>guy and he didn't shower as much as I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>him too, which is like such a thing I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need in my life. I remember being like, maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>before we'd have sex in the morning, maybe like we shower,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be quite hot, because I was like, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out a way that we do this, because

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't want to be going down on you

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<v Speaker 1>and just smell.

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<v Speaker 3>Like no, I know, it's really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I was once getting with the guy and he had

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<v Speaker 2>traveled from another place to come and see me, and

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<v Speaker 2>he arrived and he smelled so bad that the second

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<v Speaker 2>one was and I was like, I'm really sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to need you to have a shower before

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<v Speaker 3>you can have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had a shower you whack out the hose

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<v Speaker 1>put in the garden to show him down, and then he.

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<v Speaker 2>Got out the shower and he kind of still smelled,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, I feel like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>like a more problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's an animal thing, right. Smells its attraction.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the most important thing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Smelling boys. Smelling boys. Yeah, and obviously it's over six

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<v Speaker 2>or four, like eight inch and above.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred grand in the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, smell and boys flowers with the Rubby poetry.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not asking for much. Then she she said something

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<v Speaker 3>very cute and endearing about herself.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I actually I'm a bit scared of the dark.

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<v Speaker 3>I really, Yeah, it's getting worse.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not getting better, it's getting worse because I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Really scared of the dark when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not. So.

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<v Speaker 4>I was on a date with somebody and we'd gone

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<v Speaker 4>back to their place and I literally was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>bursting for the loop, but the hallway is dark and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know where the light is. And I had

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<v Speaker 4>to finally be like, can you come with me to

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<v Speaker 4>the bathroom? And she's like well, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>can you come with me to the bathroom?

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<v Speaker 1>Really scared at the dark.

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<v Speaker 4>That was like, you're joking, that's really cute, deadly serious.

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<v Speaker 4>We told your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like no, no, no, with me.

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<v Speaker 4>I was fine, want me there, and then like potentially

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<v Speaker 4>the lights are.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be one of those ones at time. Grow up,

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<v Speaker 1>grow up, I guess. I mean everyone's got fear wat

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<v Speaker 1>yours me big alone? No, I As I get older,

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<v Speaker 1>small spaces kind of freak me out a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm so big. Like I remember there's this thing

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<v Speaker 1>I just go to Devon see my grandparents, and they'd

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<v Speaker 1>converted this church into like a playing area and there

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<v Speaker 1>was this like one bit in this playing area where

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to like crawl on your belly with this

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<v Speaker 1>tight little tone and later to meet its had like

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<v Speaker 1>a little circle breathing hole and it was like a maze.

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<v Speaker 1>But there'll be a point if like a kid came

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<v Speaker 1>in from the other way, you just be trapped. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being trapped in there and it like really

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<v Speaker 1>freaked me out. But it was real bad, but like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not phobia level, So I'm trying not to put

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<v Speaker 1>like energy behind it because I don't want it to

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<v Speaker 1>become You can feed into.

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<v Speaker 2>A fear quite a lot. Like I have a really

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<v Speaker 2>big fobeu of escalators. I don't know if you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like hate escalator.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the two nankis.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I.

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<v Speaker 1>I havn't none of it go on.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was a child, me and my family

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<v Speaker 2>went on a holiday to Rome and we got to

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<v Speaker 2>like a metro station in Rome and it was shut

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<v Speaker 2>and I said to my parents.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, why is the metro station shut?

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<v Speaker 2>My dad said, oh, because an escalator broke and it

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<v Speaker 2>opened up and it ate up two nuns and then

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<v Speaker 2>a man trying to save the nuns went to pull

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<v Speaker 2>the nuns out of the escalator and lost his arm. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So from then on, I developed this horrific fear of escalators.

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever I was on and I was imagining it

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<v Speaker 2>opening up and eating me. And then I mentioned it

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<v Speaker 2>in front of my dad, like a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, Grace, it was obviously a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the first time those up. It's good for that.

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<v Speaker 4>That is. So my grandfather, he's like started to get

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<v Speaker 4>Alzheimer's and it's just like lifted the barrier of boundaries

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<v Speaker 4>and he just talked flat everything, and you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And like my grandmother died three years.

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<v Speaker 4>Ago or something, and he started dating, like you're lying

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<v Speaker 4>three years old and he's dating like three women.

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<v Speaker 3>Still now with aut silence. Yeah, Like he's got like an.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely fine.

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<v Speaker 3>But he'll like, oh my god, that's amazing exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>But the weirdest thing is he like starts telling you

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<v Speaker 4>stuff and You're like, I'm your granddaughter.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not I don't want to know that like that,

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<v Speaker 3>like one too far.

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<v Speaker 4>Like he said of the day that the woman that

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<v Speaker 4>he was dating asked him if she could look in

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<v Speaker 4>his bedroom at something, and he was like, yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>leaves her in there and he goes to check on

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<v Speaker 4>her in like fifteen minutes. It was like, we' she's

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<v Speaker 4>been a long time. What to do?

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<v Speaker 1>It comes into the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 4>And she's fully naked in his bead apparently like they're

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<v Speaker 4>in their eighties and I'm not being ages, but I

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<v Speaker 4>was quite like, wow, that's very forward for that generation.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow I live, I like I honestly so, I'm obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with great and Frankie Wort, Oh my god saying for

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<v Speaker 2>like Comfort TV show and the way that they like

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<v Speaker 2>portray like that age when you're a single person, it's lit.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be little. You can be there in the

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<v Speaker 3>retirement home shagging around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and also like because like our idea of an

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<v Speaker 1>old generation is like our grandparents or like people who

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<v Speaker 1>are still affected by like the rigidity, rigidity rigidity of

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<v Speaker 1>like uh, you know, the oppressive Victorian esque like Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>religious country, so they still have that still on them

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But like imagine us old, like we're

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<v Speaker 1>already not like that, so like it can only get worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's so true. I've never even thought about that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so true because now it's like a kind of rarity,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's that story is like rare, Like my grandma's

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<v Speaker 2>been single since my granddad died thirty years ago. But

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<v Speaker 2>now you're so right, like we're all going to be

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<v Speaker 2>like baby, wan, there will be ScDs rifing around.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing though, and people, because I love

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<v Speaker 1>that you how happy that makes me?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know how happy it makes me?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, thinking about like actually how fun old age can

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<v Speaker 2>be because I feel like it's portrayed as like such

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<v Speaker 2>a negative thing. And that's why I think Grays and

0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Frankie is like actually groundbreaking television because watching Grayce and Frankie,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have be an old woman, Yeah, only a she old

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<v Speaker 3>rich woman on a beach.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I want.

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember one time I was like a child and I

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<v Speaker 1>was at my grandparents and I came down the stairs

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<v Speaker 1>and I had my grandad on the phone and it

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<v Speaker 1>was his birthday and he was speaking to his mate

0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, shouldn't we give me a blow drop?

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<v Speaker 1>Last night? That week, I found out that my naan

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<v Speaker 1>had fake teeth for the first time, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>so she It was in my head. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, no, not my name's my Grandad's sick. But

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<v Speaker 1>then also thinking if she did, did she gummy grave

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:11.200
<v Speaker 1>blow job?

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<v Speaker 5>But that's a great bloke. Honestly, that's all you have.

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<v Speaker 5>It's all you want is no tea, no tea, no, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally love this person, like I think she's got

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<v Speaker 1>a great energy, a great vibe. I think I love

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<v Speaker 1>how like her ethos is, like knowing who she is

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<v Speaker 1>and wanting to be around people who are similar. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you vibe it? Did you?

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<v Speaker 4>We did? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And we we said that we would maybe go to

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<v Speaker 2>a sex party or like one of those events together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And we followed each other in with a granddad, with

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<v Speaker 2>her granddad and my grandma because I was thinking, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, yeah, exactly. We Yeah, we said that we

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<v Speaker 2>followed each other and we said that we would go

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<v Speaker 2>to a party together, which I would love to do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a really good experience and definitely, like

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I'm so like stuck in heterosexuality and like

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<v Speaker 2>loads of different ways, but it's something that I'm exploring now.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it was a great first date to have

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<v Speaker 3>a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so important I think those first few steps

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<v Speaker 1>into like looking at quick relationships for them to be

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<v Speaker 1>like safety and positivity and like just to know that

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<v Speaker 1>like this thing that has been like readiness to be

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<v Speaker 1>scary and the fear of the unknown in actual reality

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<v Speaker 1>can be beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be exactly. Women are obviously like superior, amazing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>next time.

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<v Speaker 1>On twenty eight dates Later.

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<v Speaker 4>When you introduced the guy with the beard, because our

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<v Speaker 4>previous date of all have been so like out there,

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<v Speaker 4>I just automatically pot like he was a beard for.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone, I was like, oh no, he thank god, this

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<v Speaker 3>is right up my streets. Okay, let's go around me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a savage.

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