Speaker 1: Novel.
Speaker 2: This show contains adult material, references to drugs and swearing.
Speaker 3: You have been warned.
Speaker 1: I don't care how confident you are. You won't throw
Speaker 1: me into a kayak.
Speaker 2: Say if you're going on a date tomorrow, Ah, I
Speaker 2: said to you. You can't do anything involving alcohol, food.
Speaker 3: What would the date be?
Speaker 1: Fuck him around me?
Speaker 3: I'm a savage. Are you bored of modern dating?
Speaker 2: Meeting the same people from the same apps in the
Speaker 2: same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your
Speaker 2: house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's
Speaker 2: time to change the narrative on how we find love.
Speaker 2: It's time to start looking for love in all the
Speaker 2: wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only
Speaker 2: picking people who are the total opposite of my type.
Speaker 2: And after twenty eight of these dates in two months,
Speaker 2: will I find that special someone? Or well, this experiment
Speaker 2: proved I should just give up on dating altogether. It's
Speaker 2: time to find out. I'm Grace Campbell and this is
Speaker 2: twenty eight dates later.
Speaker 3: Hello, my darling Dan.
Speaker 1: Hello there, my sweet baby Grace.
Speaker 3: Oh I love that.
Speaker 1: Do you like this voice?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: You sound like you're holding in a massive shit I am.
Speaker 1: I always have or is it holding me in.
Speaker 3: Holding you together?
Speaker 1: Ages?
Speaker 3: Actually that's good changing your diet. Ummmmmm, No, that's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what's happened.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 2: Ibs like, not not that I'm a doctor, but like
Speaker 2: it's also quite linked to anxiety, like stress and anxiety,
Speaker 2: so maybe we're just feeling less amis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've actually reached balance in my life.
Speaker 3: That's good. Okay, so you start this.
Speaker 1: One, damn. Okay, So today you went on a date
Speaker 1: with a woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous. This was really really actually I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed this day. I've never been on a date with
Speaker 2: a woman, Like I've gotten with women, but I've never
Speaker 2: dated a woman. But it's definitely something that.
Speaker 3: I want to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know, like having so many gay friends, like,
Speaker 2: I know that this is a real what I thought
Speaker 2: I was the only one, Dan, I'm in so many
Speaker 2: WhatsApp groups where it's just me and gay men.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called like dick pigs.
Speaker 3: Dick pigs.
Speaker 2: But there's a weird, sort of confusing situation which I've
Speaker 2: had with girls before, where because you're bonding, because you're
Speaker 2: you're also just bonding and you could be friends right where.
Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I felt like we could have been flatting, but I
Speaker 2: also didn't know because I was like, we just could
Speaker 2: be just like friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like my lines with men are so much
Speaker 2: more obvious because I don't really have male friends anymore.
Speaker 1: I've hugged them all. Yeah, And I think it's also
Speaker 1: like that thing of like like I'm quite flirtatious all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I know you have this a lot with
Speaker 3: straight men.
Speaker 1: Baby. I went to a fucking a straight wedding the
Speaker 1: other day. This is the Beita, and what was said
Speaker 1: to me. This guy was like, oh, hey, I like
Speaker 1: talking to you. It's quite flirty. And I was like okay,
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, I think I'm probably like
Speaker 1: ten percent gay, and I was like cool. And he
Speaker 1: was like and you're the kind of guy that if
Speaker 1: iways go like, I've tried sex with you, like my type.
Speaker 1: And I was like cool. And then he was like
Speaker 1: maybe maybe five percent and I was like maybe I'll
Speaker 1: wait for that five percent then and he was like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, and I was like, don't worry.
Speaker 1: I'm not coming on to you.
Speaker 3: This did not happen to God. That's insane to God.
Speaker 3: And it's like, baby, Also, how can you be like
Speaker 3: you're my type?
Speaker 2: I would get with you, but now my percentage of
Speaker 2: decrease because don't you dare think I'm going to get
Speaker 2: with you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but shut the fuck up?
Speaker 1: What is that giving me?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: When was I even trying to get with you?
Speaker 2: You've just come up to me and basically told me
Speaker 2: you fancy me, balls are rejecting me all in one's
Speaker 2: under Yeah, it's like, oh.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Yeah, I really want to I really
Speaker 1: want to have sex with you and eat out that dirty,
Speaker 1: haunted wicker basket of an ass. You're okay, no hygiene, okay.
Speaker 1: So how did you meet? What was she like? What
Speaker 1: was the vibe?
Speaker 2: I was set up with her, so it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, recommended by a friend. She is always a
Speaker 2: nicer feeling than meeting someone online. And I thought, you exactly,
Speaker 2: And she was so like gorgeous and also so stylish.
Speaker 2: She was wearing this coade that like I would do
Speaker 2: anything for anything and anything, I'd murder her form No
Speaker 2: I'm drinking, but she was gorgeous. She looks like have
Speaker 2: you watched The Marvelous Miss Masil?
Speaker 1: I think a little bit so she looked like.
Speaker 3: The the main actress in that.
Speaker 2: His name has left me, but I think it's Rachel something,
Speaker 2: but maybe I'm making that up. She looked just like
Speaker 2: she had this really striking, like amazingly pretty face.
Speaker 1: I hope to God one day someone describes me as that.
Speaker 1: I described you as that amazingly pretty fair.
Speaker 2: You said to me earlier that somebody told you that
Speaker 2: they wish that they'd met you before they got.
Speaker 1: Their nose done. Yeah, because the would have my nose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you have a great nose?
Speaker 3: You have a great nurse, as do I.
Speaker 1: As to you. It's two beautiful girls recording as Wow,
Speaker 1: God is good if she's there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we sat down. How to drink? She wasn't drinking,
Speaker 3: and so I didn't either.
Speaker 2: I had a non alcoholic beer.
Speaker 1: If you're wondering, Wow, the evolution of self, I know,
Speaker 1: look at me at the growth.
Speaker 3: My type is very varied.
Speaker 4: But I think at the core of like everyone I've
Speaker 4: ever dated, is confidence. Yeah, people who like themselves and.
Speaker 3: Just to start themselves.
Speaker 4: I like throwing people into situations like yeah, you're part
Speaker 4: and seeing how they react to them. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that being like okay, I know now because you can
Speaker 4: like go on like what mean like social city, Yeah,
Speaker 4: social situations like I do like let's I don't know,
Speaker 4: go kayaking or something something where it's not just you
Speaker 4: sat down having drink, because any could be anyone of.
Speaker 3: That fl and it is so easy to perform.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because men are a plague,
Speaker 1: but straight away from like love the dates that I've
Speaker 1: we've listened to, I love her.
Speaker 3: I love her no. And she has such a nice voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's like there's an energy to it and
Speaker 1: it's like nice.
Speaker 3: But do you know she was like younger than us.
Speaker 3: She was like twenty six.
Speaker 1: I think I am twenty one.
Speaker 3: She was so emotionally evolved.
Speaker 2: I was like, but imagine saying like my type is
Speaker 2: confident people like, oh, it's such a great thing to say.
Speaker 2: And you are so aware of yourself and you have
Speaker 2: high standards of behavior, like you want people to a
Speaker 2: certain selves and you know that you like challenging people
Speaker 2: like she's so self reflective.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I feel like I do.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that, but in a self destructive way where
Speaker 2: like I'll like someone and so I'll throw them in
Speaker 2: a situation to maybe sabotage the relationship, because like I'll
Speaker 2: take them to a dinner bar of all of my
Speaker 2: crazy friends who takes shrooms and end up like pretending
Speaker 2: to faint.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was not there. That was not me. No,
Speaker 1: but I don't care how confident you are, you won't
Speaker 1: throw me into a kayak. To be honest, I like,
Speaker 1: have I what is like a good like between you?
Speaker 1: Like nice tip a tap?
Speaker 2: I remember you spoke about a date that you went
Speaker 2: on where you went to like a game's cafe with
Speaker 2: like loads of games. Oh yeah, but what apart from that,
Speaker 2: Like what would be OK, say, if you're going on
Speaker 2: a date tomorrow, I said to you, you can't do
Speaker 2: anything involving alcohol.
Speaker 3: Food, what would the date be?
Speaker 1: Fucking?
Speaker 3: Am I right?
Speaker 1: Like? For me, I like to go see something like
Speaker 1: I quite like my first day will chat catch up,
Speaker 1: like get to know each other. The second day, I
Speaker 1: like to like go see something so we can talk
Speaker 1: about something present and like a culture experience.
Speaker 2: But would you because then I'm like going to see
Speaker 2: something like a film or the theater.
Speaker 3: You can't speak through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I quite like that sometimes. But I quite like
Speaker 1: someone's like because it says a lot about someone how
Speaker 1: they react to like art, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like if they have opinion of something, and like, for me,
Speaker 1: I like someone to have a creative vocabulary and like
Speaker 1: so I can like connect with them by sharing similar
Speaker 1: creative passions.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: And also you can see the kind of like intellectual
Speaker 2: level that they're on on how they sort of like
Speaker 2: respond to things and interpret things exactly.
Speaker 1: And I think it's also nicely in terms of like
Speaker 1: dating is experiencing something new, So I wouldn't mind someone
Speaker 1: being there, like, hey, have you ever done this? And
Speaker 1: as long as it's not like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: something to sport based, like I don't want to do
Speaker 1: anything exercise based really, but like if they were like,
Speaker 1: you want to try this out? But yeah, that sounds real.
Speaker 3: Fun, I do agree.
Speaker 2: I feel like because I and we both have like
Speaker 2: grown up in a culture that's so oriented around alcohol.
Speaker 2: It's just for me if somebody said, hey, should we
Speaker 2: go this do this like left field thing that I've
Speaker 2: never done before, my immediate mind reaction would be like ick,
Speaker 2: ick something wrong, something wrong, something wrong, because it's the
Speaker 2: cool thing is to just go for a drink, but
Speaker 2: actually it's so basic. Yeah, and like she said, it's
Speaker 2: really easy to perform as the person you want them
Speaker 2: to think you are at a drink.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it can be so boring just saying the
Speaker 1: same fucking thing again and again and again. Like it's
Speaker 1: quite nice to do something and like experience something first
Speaker 1: hand together.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I've got friends who like meet someone and
Speaker 1: then the person's just like, I'm going away tomorrow, want
Speaker 1: to come bitch someone take me away?
Speaker 3: Why is that happened to me?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't know. It's never happened to me either.
Speaker 2: And then I guess, like there is the element of safety,
Speaker 2: Like I'm not sure I would just go away with
Speaker 2: like a complete stranger. Yeah.
Speaker 1: True, But I mean, if you're going to try and
Speaker 1: kill me, maybe I'm ready.
Speaker 3: Or maybe let's just do it somewhere home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind if you're taking me some exotic
Speaker 1: and then murder me. It's like I always say, like,
Speaker 1: if you're going to murder me, just fuck me first,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I realized that for like the beginning of the
Speaker 2: day one of my boobs had been.
Speaker 3: My nipples out. I'm wearing the smallest bra.
Speaker 2: Man missed this man in the public like my nipples out,
Speaker 2: so he said something.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 2: It was by accident, but I would like, but would
Speaker 2: you Okay? For example, I was having mis argument with
Speaker 2: someone the other day.
Speaker 3: If you were with someone and they had.
Speaker 2: Really bad breath, would you tell them?
Speaker 4: If it was a friend, yeah, If it was someone
Speaker 4: you were getting with, would you tell them?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. I think it was like a stranger and they.
Speaker 4: Had their nipple out or they had bad breath. I
Speaker 4: would never say anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know know, I wouldn't say I would.
Speaker 2: I definitely want to say a stranger, you have bad breath,
Speaker 2: because why are your breath?
Speaker 1: Why can I smell your breath?
Speaker 3: Go away from me?
Speaker 2: But like I think I had this argument with my
Speaker 2: friend because she got with this guy and then I
Speaker 2: was getting.
Speaker 1: My bait.
Speaker 2: And she she was like messaging me like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: he's in my bed and his breast well so bad.
Speaker 1: I was like, so I don't fucking brush.
Speaker 3: His seeve like that's fine, You're allowed to stay. Like
Speaker 3: I would say, oh you can borrow my teeth.
Speaker 4: Br you can kiss me, thank you very much, not
Speaker 4: smelling your fucking brath.
Speaker 1: Okay, so your nick was out, but the important question
Speaker 1: is was it your good tip?
Speaker 3: Both are good, first of all, don't offend me.
Speaker 2: But it was broad daylight, daytime, kids could see me,
Speaker 2: so I can understand, like why it would be a
Speaker 2: bit in appropriate for one of my tips to be.
Speaker 1: Out, I guess. But everyone needs in education. Sometimes that is.
Speaker 2: True, and you know it's lucky them for it to
Speaker 2: be like my boot Yeah what too great tips fame.
Speaker 1: Look me at my vape, look at my mape addtion
Speaker 1: to vaping. Oh god, I was like trying to open
Speaker 1: a lost mary look like the tip like the foil package,
Speaker 1: and I cut my lip on it and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: an injury for being gen z. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 4: You know, after COVID, I lost my smele so much,
Speaker 4: so I can't.
Speaker 3: Tell him I don't like someone smell. I'm like you're like, yeah, no, idea, No,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: In my line, I don't date one because yeah, I
Speaker 4: didn't want Why I was seeing this guy and I
Speaker 4: was so into him, maybe like him, And then like
Speaker 4: fourth time we met off and we like got together
Speaker 4: and I was like whoa, Like he'd been at work
Speaker 4: all day and like fair enough to get another chower.
Speaker 4: But I was like he literally stay disgusted, and it's
Speaker 4: really like every part of my body is like get
Speaker 4: this person away.
Speaker 1: I have a situation before where someone's had bad breath,
Speaker 1: like we were like hooking up, and I just I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I this is so many to figure
Speaker 1: out it myself, right, I please too much, Like I
Speaker 1: get worried about offending somebody, especially in an intimate environment
Speaker 1: that they might not like me, or like they might
Speaker 1: like go or something very much giving Daddy, why did
Speaker 1: you leave? But like this person had bad breath and
Speaker 1: it really took me out. But I just couldn't be like, baby,
Speaker 1: have you already eaten? Ass? So did you eat as
Speaker 1: before I came? Because you're putting the hell in helotosis?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, yeah it was, But i't know, but
Speaker 1: just in those moments like I wish I was confident
Speaker 1: of It's like it's like hair cut, right, there's moments
Speaker 1: like cut in your hair and you're like love it
Speaker 1: and you're like I hate this.
Speaker 2: But to that point, why would you be worried about
Speaker 2: offending someone when their breath is really bad, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you should more save the situation,
Speaker 2: be honest, because otherwise you're never going to see them
Speaker 2: again because their breath's not like shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember one time, like I was seeing this
Speaker 1: guy and he didn't shower as much as I'd like
Speaker 1: him too, which is like such a thing I don't
Speaker 1: need in my life. I remember being like, maybe like
Speaker 1: before we'd have sex in the morning, maybe like we shower,
Speaker 1: that'd be quite hot, because I was like, I need
Speaker 1: to figure out a way that we do this, because
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be going down on you
Speaker 1: and just smell.
Speaker 3: Like no, I know, it's really bad.
Speaker 2: I was once getting with the guy and he had
Speaker 2: traveled from another place to come and see me, and
Speaker 2: he arrived and he smelled so bad that the second
Speaker 2: one was and I was like, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 3: I'm going to need you to have a shower before
Speaker 3: you can have sex.
Speaker 1: So he had a shower you whack out the hose
Speaker 1: put in the garden to show him down, and then he.
Speaker 2: Got out the shower and he kind of still smelled,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, I feel like, this is
Speaker 2: like a more problem.
Speaker 1: But it's an animal thing, right. Smells its attraction.
Speaker 3: Is the most important thing to me.
Speaker 2: Smelling boys. Smelling boys. Yeah, and obviously it's over six
Speaker 2: or four, like eight inch and above.
Speaker 3: One hundred grand in the bank.
Speaker 1: Yeah, smell and boys flowers with the Rubby poetry.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: I'm not asking for much. Then she she said something
Speaker 3: very cute and endearing about herself.
Speaker 4: Okay, I actually I'm a bit scared of the dark.
Speaker 3: I really, Yeah, it's getting worse.
Speaker 4: It's not getting better, it's getting worse because I was.
Speaker 3: Really scared of the dark when I was younger.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not. So.
Speaker 4: I was on a date with somebody and we'd gone
Speaker 4: back to their place and I literally was like, I'm
Speaker 4: bursting for the loop, but the hallway is dark and
Speaker 4: I don't know where the light is. And I had
Speaker 4: to finally be like, can you come with me to
Speaker 4: the bathroom? And she's like well, and I was like,
Speaker 4: can you come with me to the bathroom?
Speaker 1: Really scared at the dark.
Speaker 4: That was like, you're joking, that's really cute, deadly serious.
Speaker 4: We told your hand.
Speaker 1: I was like no, no, no, with me.
Speaker 4: I was fine, want me there, and then like potentially
Speaker 4: the lights are.
Speaker 1: Going to be one of those ones at time. Grow up,
Speaker 1: grow up, I guess. I mean everyone's got fear wat
Speaker 1: yours me big alone? No, I As I get older,
Speaker 1: small spaces kind of freak me out a little bit
Speaker 1: because I'm so big. Like I remember there's this thing
Speaker 1: I just go to Devon see my grandparents, and they'd
Speaker 1: converted this church into like a playing area and there
Speaker 1: was this like one bit in this playing area where
Speaker 1: you'd have to like crawl on your belly with this
Speaker 1: tight little tone and later to meet its had like
Speaker 1: a little circle breathing hole and it was like a maze.
Speaker 1: But there'll be a point if like a kid came
Speaker 1: in from the other way, you just be trapped. And
Speaker 1: I remember being trapped in there and it like really
Speaker 1: freaked me out. But it was real bad, but like
Speaker 1: it's not phobia level, So I'm trying not to put
Speaker 1: like energy behind it because I don't want it to
Speaker 1: become You can feed into.
Speaker 2: A fear quite a lot. Like I have a really
Speaker 2: big fobeu of escalators. I don't know if you know this,
Speaker 2: but I like hate escalator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the two nankis.
Speaker 2: So when I.
Speaker 1: I havn't none of it go on.
Speaker 2: So when I was a child, me and my family
Speaker 2: went on a holiday to Rome and we got to
Speaker 2: like a metro station in Rome and it was shut
Speaker 2: and I said to my parents.
Speaker 3: I was like, why is the metro station shut?
Speaker 2: My dad said, oh, because an escalator broke and it
Speaker 2: opened up and it ate up two nuns and then
Speaker 2: a man trying to save the nuns went to pull
Speaker 2: the nuns out of the escalator and lost his arm. Right.
Speaker 2: So from then on, I developed this horrific fear of escalators.
Speaker 2: So whenever I was on and I was imagining it
Speaker 2: opening up and eating me. And then I mentioned it
Speaker 2: in front of my dad, like a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: and he was like, Grace, it was obviously a joke.
Speaker 1: It was the first time those up. It's good for that.
Speaker 4: That is. So my grandfather, he's like started to get
Speaker 4: Alzheimer's and it's just like lifted the barrier of boundaries
Speaker 4: and he just talked flat everything, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 4: that's a lot.
Speaker 3: And like my grandmother died three years.
Speaker 4: Ago or something, and he started dating, like you're lying
Speaker 4: three years old and he's dating like three women.
Speaker 3: Still now with aut silence. Yeah, Like he's got like an.
Speaker 1: It's completely fine.
Speaker 3: But he'll like, oh my god, that's amazing exactly.
Speaker 4: But the weirdest thing is he like starts telling you
Speaker 4: stuff and You're like, I'm your granddaughter.
Speaker 3: I do not I don't want to know that like that,
Speaker 3: like one too far.
Speaker 4: Like he said of the day that the woman that
Speaker 4: he was dating asked him if she could look in
Speaker 4: his bedroom at something, and he was like, yeah, of course,
Speaker 4: leaves her in there and he goes to check on
Speaker 4: her in like fifteen minutes. It was like, we' she's
Speaker 4: been a long time. What to do?
Speaker 1: It comes into the bedroom.
Speaker 4: And she's fully naked in his bead apparently like they're
Speaker 4: in their eighties and I'm not being ages, but I
Speaker 4: was quite like, wow, that's very forward for that generation.
Speaker 2: Wow I live, I like I honestly so, I'm obsessed
Speaker 2: with great and Frankie Wort, Oh my god saying for
Speaker 2: like Comfort TV show and the way that they like
Speaker 2: portray like that age when you're a single person, it's lit.
Speaker 3: It can be little. You can be there in the
Speaker 3: retirement home shagging around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also like because like our idea of an
Speaker 1: old generation is like our grandparents or like people who
Speaker 1: are still affected by like the rigidity, rigidity rigidity of
Speaker 1: like uh, you know, the oppressive Victorian esque like Catholic
Speaker 1: religious country, so they still have that still on them
Speaker 1: a little bit. But like imagine us old, like we're
Speaker 1: already not like that, so like it can only get worse.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so true. I've never even thought about that.
Speaker 2: That's so true because now it's like a kind of rarity,
Speaker 2: Like that's that story is like rare, Like my grandma's
Speaker 2: been single since my granddad died thirty years ago. But
Speaker 2: now you're so right, like we're all going to be
Speaker 2: like baby, wan, there will be ScDs rifing around.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing though, and people, because I love
Speaker 1: that you how happy that makes me?
Speaker 3: Do you know how happy it makes me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Baby, thinking about like actually how fun old age can
Speaker 2: be because I feel like it's portrayed as like such
Speaker 2: a negative thing. And that's why I think Grays and
Speaker 2: Frankie is like actually groundbreaking television because watching Grayce and Frankie,
Speaker 2: I'm like I would.
Speaker 3: Have be an old woman, Yeah, only a she old
Speaker 3: rich woman on a beach.
Speaker 1: That's all I want.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 1: Remember one time I was like a child and I
Speaker 1: was at my grandparents and I came down the stairs
Speaker 1: and I had my grandad on the phone and it
Speaker 1: was his birthday and he was speaking to his mate
Speaker 1: and he was like, shouldn't we give me a blow drop?
Speaker 1: Last night? That week, I found out that my naan
Speaker 1: had fake teeth for the first time, and I was like,
Speaker 1: so she It was in my head. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh god, no, not my name's my Grandad's sick. But
Speaker 1: then also thinking if she did, did she gummy grave
Speaker 1: blow job?
Speaker 5: But that's a great bloke. Honestly, that's all you have.
Speaker 5: It's all you want is no tea, no tea, no, Okay.
Speaker 1: I personally love this person, like I think she's got
Speaker 1: a great energy, a great vibe. I think I love
Speaker 1: how like her ethos is, like knowing who she is
Speaker 1: and wanting to be around people who are similar. Did
Speaker 1: you vibe it? Did you?
Speaker 4: We did? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And we we said that we would maybe go to
Speaker 2: a sex party or like one of those events together. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And we followed each other in with a granddad, with
Speaker 2: her granddad and my grandma because I was thinking, oh
Speaker 2: my god, yeah, exactly. We Yeah, we said that we
Speaker 2: followed each other and we said that we would go
Speaker 2: to a party together, which I would love to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it was a really good experience and definitely, like
Speaker 2: I think, I'm so like stuck in heterosexuality and like
Speaker 2: loads of different ways, but it's something that I'm exploring now.
Speaker 3: And so it was a great first date to have
Speaker 3: a woman.
Speaker 1: And it's so important I think those first few steps
Speaker 1: into like looking at quick relationships for them to be
Speaker 1: like safety and positivity and like just to know that
Speaker 1: like this thing that has been like readiness to be
Speaker 1: scary and the fear of the unknown in actual reality
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Speaker 3: next time.
Speaker 1: On twenty eight dates Later.
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