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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that takes you

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Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium and gets you in touch with what

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Speaker 1: is happening with your Houston Texans. I'm Mark Vandermere. It's

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access here from the Hunday Texans radio studio

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Speaker 1: and joining us as he does every Thursday night. John

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Speaker 1: McClain from the Houston Chronicle General, how are you. You're

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Speaker 1: a little tired. You get some sleep last night? A

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm disappointed that the Astros lost, of course,

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Speaker 1: been attendees incredible catch. If he'd missed it, the game

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Speaker 1: would have been over. I hope Justin Burlander wins tonight

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Speaker 1: they go back to Fenway, because if they win a

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Speaker 1: game tonight and they go to Fenway and they were

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Speaker 1: to win the sixth game, that would put a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on the Red Sox. But I don't want

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Speaker 1: to see Boston close it out here with the third

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Speaker 1: consecutive victory. Ad minute may part. Yeah, nobody does. But

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Speaker 1: it's baseball. It's a weird game in the postseason. And

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Speaker 1: before we get to the Jags Texans game, a couple

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Speaker 1: of notes on last night and on this postseason that

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Speaker 1: are sort of NFL related. Replay comes up in sports.

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Speaker 1: We have it in the National Football League, have had

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Speaker 1: it for a long time, obviously baseball. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say it's new, but it's relatively new when you compare

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Speaker 1: it to professional football replay. But your thoughts on not

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Speaker 1: having a great angle a great look at what happened

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Speaker 1: last night in right field, Well, the security guard got

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Speaker 1: in the way of our second camera angle. It's preposterous

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Speaker 1: that you have games that count as much and you're

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Speaker 1: not like football and you don't have cameras set up

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Speaker 1: at every possible angle. At this level, this is the

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Speaker 1: semi finals series to determine the sports champion. I think

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Speaker 1: you have to have that's it's any excusable that they

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Speaker 1: set a security guard got in away. I know a

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Speaker 1: security guard got in the way of an ultra important

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Speaker 1: view of an ultra important play, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is this, and I know that sometimes

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Speaker 1: you go on with Christopher Russo mad Dog, and he

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Speaker 1: was going off yesterday about the times. The start times

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Speaker 1: of these games really not so much. The start time

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Speaker 1: Body in the East should be based on how long

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Speaker 1: these games are, even in the central job because a

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Speaker 1: lot of the fans who left last night. And look,

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Speaker 1: we could argue whether they should left Fenway Stadium. You

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Speaker 1: gotta get them go to work. You gotta go to work.

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Speaker 1: You have kids, you have babysitters, you have whatever. It's

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Speaker 1: approaching midnight and the game's not even close to being over. Really,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was approaching one am in the East.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. And then he was going Russo was going

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Speaker 1: off about the previous night fans in Milwaukee or in

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Speaker 1: the Central time zone and they're playing at one thirty

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Speaker 1: in the morning. I mean, you're literally playing your semifinal

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. But who could who

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Speaker 1: could have predicted is going to be thirteen right? Right?

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Speaker 1: But it's still it's not out of the realm of possibility.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with him. I think you gotta especially

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Speaker 1: if you're on TBS, you're not interrupting any affiliates early

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Speaker 1: news at six o'clock or whatever the news would be

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Speaker 1: in your particular market, Why not started a little earlier

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Speaker 1: so you have the meat of the game, the most

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Speaker 1: important parts of the game on in primetime. I don't

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Speaker 1: get it. Another thing about baseball, they say they like

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Speaker 1: to speed up the game, but like these Astros games,

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Speaker 1: the first one and last night, with all the pitching changes,

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Speaker 1: with guys stepping out of the box, with pitchers waiting

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Speaker 1: to throw, and all the changes by the managers. It's

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Speaker 1: just the game has gotten slower. And if it's a

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Speaker 1: to work. But I think it's an inherent flaw in

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Speaker 1: the game of baseball the way it's played today. I

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Speaker 1: think professional football has it right as far as now.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's easier to manage the schedule because you

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Speaker 1: can play it once a week on a Sunday. But

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, you have your semifinal games and your

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Speaker 1: championship game when the whole family can watch the game.

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Speaker 1: They're available for the whole family to see, and you

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Speaker 1: have those bonding experiences in championship moments. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's a huge difference now. I know it's harder when

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Speaker 1: do a better job somehow. I was thinking last night, boy,

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Speaker 1: if you're an NBA fan, it must be nice to

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Speaker 1: That's right, even in the postseason, although some of those

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the situation here, as

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Speaker 1: you and I have not caught up since the Texans

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Speaker 1: went to three and three. We talked a little bit

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Speaker 1: on Monday morning, but very briefly. Here they are having

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Speaker 1: won three games in a row. They need to improve

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Speaker 1: on offense, but the defense is coming around, and you

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Speaker 1: have a crucial game at Jacksonville. The loser is certainly

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Speaker 1: not out of it in the AFC South, but boy,

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Speaker 1: the winner certainly has a leg up after this one.

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Speaker 1: And this is kind of what we wanted John week seven.

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Speaker 1: This game really meaning a lot, and it does. The

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Speaker 1: Texans have taken care of their business and one to

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Speaker 1: three games in a row he would want ugly. So

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Speaker 1: what you know, I was thinking Tennessee and Jacksonville would

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Speaker 1: love to have been able to have an ugly win.

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Speaker 1: The last two weekends. Nobody could have predicted both would lose.

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Speaker 1: So now we have a three way tied this game

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are so people are not expecting the Texans to

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Speaker 1: go in and win, but that's what they need to do.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've blowed two games they should have won

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and the Giants, Well, this is the way to

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Speaker 1: make up for it. Win a game you're not supposed

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Speaker 1: to win, be in first place with the October Fest

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Speaker 1: coming next Thursday night at NRG Stadium. And think if

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Speaker 1: they were to win this game, win four in a row,

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Speaker 1: how pumped the fans would be for the broxter to

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Speaker 1: come back here for the Dolphins and start they were there.

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Speaker 1: No matter what, They're gonna boo him like crazy, and

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Speaker 1: that makes that game even more exciting. No offense to

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Speaker 1: the Aggies and Ryan Tannehill, but but Boyd Brocko Swidler

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Speaker 1: coming back and playing the Texans on national TV. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't get much better than that. When he joined the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: we talked about the possibility, but it just seemed so

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Speaker 1: But he is the actual backup in Miami behind Tannehill,

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Speaker 1: and here he is. But we'll get back to that

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Speaker 1: in a moment. Jacksonville, John talking to some of their people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the defense should be playing a whole lot better, but

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Speaker 1: the offense, they have a lot of injuries and they're

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Speaker 1: is Deshaun Watson's thrown an interception in eight consecutive games.

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Speaker 1: This is a time for him not to throw one.

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Speaker 1: I think the Texans can win this game unless they

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Speaker 1: And I think if they were to play the first

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Speaker 1: writing a column about this tomorrow. He didn't say regretted

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Speaker 1: calling him trash, but he explained the situation and we

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Speaker 1: IUR for that game in December when they were humiliated

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Speaker 1: this point, even though they've lost some players. Texans can

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Speaker 1: I don't think with Fornet again, he yelled and may

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Speaker 1: not be it. He's got to be able to play.

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Speaker 1: They can be down to their third running back. And

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Speaker 1: you think of how Bortles did what he did last

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Speaker 1: of Fame receiver. They can get pressure on him this time.

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Speaker 1: They can force him out of the pocket, and what

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Speaker 1: they have to worry about is him running because he's

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Speaker 1: come around. That's a good side. Well, wedn't need two

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Speaker 1: games ago. Had three heads on a quarterback against Andrew Luck,

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Speaker 1: knocked him down three times, had a tackle for loss

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Speaker 1: Romeo Cordelli explained that to us last week. And of

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Speaker 1: course Whitney's gonna do what he's supposed to do, but

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Speaker 1: still he needed making some plays in the backfield. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: What about the back end now? Because Kareem is looking

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Speaker 1: good no matter where he played. Joe's played well since

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Speaker 1: he broke up that last pass in Indianapolis. The defense,

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Speaker 1: and I wrote about this today, has played great the

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Speaker 1: last two games. Hell, you're playing Buffalo and Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: believe I figured up is averaging fifty two yards a

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Speaker 1: pass with portals and then we'll see who's they're gonna get,

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Speaker 1: good Blake or bad Blake. What do you think about

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Speaker 1: what it's gonna take to get better in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: What's your latest thought on that. I think that if

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Speaker 1: you have the same play caller and the same quarterback,

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Speaker 1: which they do, eventually get the problems worked out. If

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Speaker 1: ten to the twenty, I'd say, come on down here,

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Speaker 1: the one here, Just come on down throwing the end

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Speaker 1: zone so we can commit interference and you get first

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Speaker 1: and goal at the one, because inside the five is

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Speaker 1: what's killing them. Actually inside the three, you know they

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Speaker 1: can score when they got room, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: the opponent's respect to run. They're not the offensive lines

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Speaker 1: not getting a push down there. When Aaron Foster was here,

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Speaker 1: I think Watson, when he doesn't see that initial play,

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Speaker 1: doesn't have time to go through reads. I think everybody

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Speaker 1: the high percentage played just be throwing fade Dopkins every

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Speaker 1: time and give him a chance because nothing else is

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Speaker 1: working right. We'll see what they do. What about the

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Speaker 1: way Watson is playing now. The injuries, certainly I think

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Speaker 1: affected him in the game against Buffalo, but he got

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Speaker 1: the injury report as a limited participant on Wednesday. He's

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can do what he did,

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis or even or even San Diego. But the

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Speaker 1: Chargers will do well in that stadium, No, I don't

430
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Speaker 1: think so. How well are they gonna do if they're

431
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: drawing twenty five in an eighty thousand seat stadium and

432
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: be embarrassing? Well, maybe they have to pony up the

433
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: money for a San Diego stadium and go back there.

434
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: But Alex Spanos has died. Dean Spanos is running the show.

435
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 1: But he was running the show. He tried to get

436
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: a new stadium for fifteen years and couldn't do it.

437
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 1: And so what else is an owner supposed to do?

438
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: The stadium was a dump. You think San Diego would

439
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: take him back. I mean, if you could put together

440
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: a stadium for them, take them back and so, and

441
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: now that they've lived without them, maybe you have all

442
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: the leverage you need. Who knows. I'm not saying it's

443
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: gonna get A problem was with the Spanos family, not

444
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: with the players. You think they wouldn't like to have

445
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: Philip rivers by him though he still lives in San Diego.

446
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: I think they would welcome them with open arms, all right, John,

447
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football, the Broncos at the Cardinals. What is

448
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: happening in Denver House? Safe? Or unsafe as vans Joseph

449
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: And what about Keenham starting position case has more interceptions

450
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 1: and touchdowns. They don't who they are Chad Kelly. Yeah,

451
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: and they they've lost. They started off winning two clothes

452
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: ones at home, they've lost close ones. I thought it

453
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: was kind of cool. Von Miller came out said we're

454
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna kick their bleep. So I picked him to win

455
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: by ten. Arizona is terrible. If Denver cannot beat the Cardinals,

456
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: then Advance may get fired. I don't even know who

457
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: his coordinators are. But there was talk that Johnny always

458
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: going to fire him after last season and Johnny always

459
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: getting a lot of heat. Yeah, yeah, he called his

460
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: defense soft and things like that. Now, of course John's

461
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: got win in the super Bowl. There's talk was they

462
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: may Now I don't. I'm not saying it's gonna happen,

463
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: but there's talk that if they fired Advanced Joseph, who

464
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: might they have in the organization that could step in

465
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 1: and take over that team. Well, he is there, but

466
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. The wife has to come into play here.

467
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: As far as that decision to re enter the coaching

468
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: ranks for Gary Kobia, I say, Gary, come on, it's

469
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: just half a season. Well, it's hard to say, because

470
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: when you've been carried out on a stretcher twice in

471
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: different organizations, having this job, I'm not so sure it's

472
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: the healthiest thing to do. But we'll see. I mean,

473
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: we all love Gary and the best of luck. He

474
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: turned down some offers. Maybe being a coordinator would be best,

475
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: or maybe doing a John Alway for another organization, being

476
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: the guy to run it and not be the coach.

477
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: I don't think he wants that the coordinators. When he

478
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 1: was in Baltimore, he was living by the facility, spending

479
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen hours a day there, and they had their

480
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: best offensive season ever. They did when Rhanda was back

481
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: keeper for the game here visiting the Boys. So I

482
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: could see maybe him answering an SOS for half a season,

483
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: but not coming back on a permanent basis, although I

484
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: sure would like the same. Due All right, other games

485
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: that we want to talk about here, How about the

486
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts hosting the Buffalo Bills. Okay, Buffalo's defense was

487
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: good coming in here, and then it looked great, So

488
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: I'm assuming the Bill's defense is gonna look good, but

489
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: they can't score many points. Indianapolis can score points with

490
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: Luck if no running game whatsoever. There defensive Lions injured.

491
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of players out, but Andrew's storing

492
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: the ball all over the place, so they're going in

493
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: there losing street John that stat that Luck has thrown

494
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: more passes through the first six games than any quarterback

495
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: since nineteen fifty, that's because they can't find the records

496
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: prior to nineteen fifty. Right, Um, I don't know who

497
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: they got Don Hudson's records. Okay, more passes in the

498
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: first six games in pre nineteen fifties football, Well, they

499
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: didn't throw the football at much, so it shouldn't be

500
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: hard to determine. Okay, the Browns, I don't want to

501
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: talk about them. They're gonna be at the Buccaneers. Let's

502
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: just go to the Dolphins hosting the Detroit Lions. So

503
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned the possibility of brock Oswiler next week. It

504
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna happen, right, Tannis is not gonna

505
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: be able to be ready as a showler injury, and

506
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: Adam Gys hadn't even kidded around. He said, I don't

507
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: know when he's coming back. But Brock against Detroit three,

508
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: he's beating them before here, right, he threw for well

509
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: over three three eighty five last week. Does he turn

510
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: into a pumpkin at some point? Or was just was

511
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: this a changeup pitch that they used again the Bears?

512
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: So many teams have thought he's gonna change turn into

513
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: a pumpkin or they wouldn't have gotten rid of right now,

514
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: two of the Albert Wilson took two short passes and

515
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: turn them into long touchdowns. So that was about one

516
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards worthy off of the three eighty

517
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: five or whatever it was. So he also threw three interceptions,

518
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: two interceptions, and he's a target. And so I can't wait.

519
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really bummed if Tanny Hill comes back

520
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: because playing the Dolphins there, I believe right, they're four

521
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: and two. I think as it stands today, they're the

522
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: only team left on the Texas record schedule with a

523
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: winning records today, and uh, so I hope they do

524
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: beat Detroit. I hope that people get fired up about

525
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: the five two Dolphins and and uh and rock Oswilder

526
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: coming to Houston. You know that the networks are played

527
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: up like crazy, do you believe Drew Brees is owing

528
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: four all time against the Ravens. I guess it's just

529
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: one of those things. It's AFC. NFC doesn't face them

530
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: that often. But they're going to Baltimore this week. The

531
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: Saints are does that Ravens defense finally cool off? Breeze

532
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: is playing so well that Streaks got it. I'm guessing

533
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: it's the last time you'll play against him. I'm taking

534
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: New Orleans, okay, unless it was a Super Bowl situation.

535
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Cowboys at the Redskins. I'm intrigued by Washington because they

536
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: are on the Texans schedule. They have Alex Smith. When

537
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: I look at the quarterbacks alone, never mind the rest

538
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: of the team, just the quarterbacks. The Texans are facing

539
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: here John in the next six seven weeks. Alex Smith

540
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: seems to be the best one, and you're gonna go

541
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: to his place. They're three and two. Cowboys are O

542
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: three on the road. We saw him here. Texans totally

543
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: dominated him. I'm taking Redskins okay, Redskins at home in

544
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: this one. The Bengals at the Chiefs. The Chiefs looked

545
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: amazing against the Patriots on offense. They gave up forty

546
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: three points on defense. Now the Bengals, they got a

547
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: lot of weapons, they have a lot of moxie, but

548
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: they lost to the Steelers at the Buzzer basically last week.

549
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Fantaz Burfact comes back all of a sudden, he's cheap

550
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: shot and people getting reviewed by the NFL. I still

551
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: think he has a negative influence on that team. I'm

552
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: taking the Chiefs. I think he'll be high scoring. Kansas

553
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: City's defenses number thirty two, so Andy Dalton and their

554
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: offense ought to be able to score some points. It's

555
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: going to be another exciting close game that this time

556
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 1: the Chiefs will win. Jets hosting the Vikings are the

557
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: Jets that he could the three and three. They won

558
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: two in a row. In their three victories, they're averaging

559
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: over forty points. In their three losses, they're averaging thirteen.

560
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: Which Jets team is going to show up? Sam Darlan

561
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: has played very well in the last two games. I'm

562
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: happy for Mike mcagne as I'm sure you are. They're

563
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: playing at home Minnesota three two and one. They were

564
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: two to two last year. Bounced back. Adam Thielan is

565
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: tying can tie the record of most consecutive hundred yard

566
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: games receiving to start a season, said by Oilers receiver

567
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: Charlie Hennigan in nineteen sixty one. They've done a lot

568
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: of stories in the metric in the Twin Cities about

569
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: just two of us, Charlie Hennigan. I've done some interviews

570
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: giving them some numbers of Oilers who played them, like

571
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: Bill Groman, and so Feeling has got a chance to

572
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: take the record. I'm taking Minnesota. I'm not picking the

573
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: Jets to beat Minnesota's defense. John It's really funny how

574
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: that goes though. I mean, you look at Kirk Cousins

575
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: going to Minnesota. I think it's almost a week to

576
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: week thing, but it looks like they made a pretty

577
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: good investment there. So far. They're throwing the ball well.

578
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: They've had injuries to Dalvin Cook, they haven't been able

579
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: to run the ball to one. The defense was number

580
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: one in the NFL last year, Jacksonville was two. They

581
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: have not played the dominant defense that they did a

582
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: season ago, but they're confident that they will. They've had

583
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: they got beat at home by Buffalo and they've rebounded.

584
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: So I think Minnesota, when all of a sudden done,

585
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota is going to be right there in the NFC

586
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: North along with Green Bay. I don't think Chicago can

587
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: keep it up. I like Theeeland as a story because

588
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: two years ago the Texans go to Minnesota and we're thinking,

589
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: who's Adam Feeling? And he has a big game against

590
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: the Texans. The Vikings were just dominant in that game

591
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: in their new building at the time. And here he is. Now,

592
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: he's the household name at wide receiver. He even start

593
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: or coming off. I think he might have gotten the

594
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: start that day, but he was an emerging player. You know.

595
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: We obviously I'm prepared for the game. I kne who

596
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: the guy was, but I didn't expect him to have

597
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: that kind of outing in that kind of career for sure.

598
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: One more for you. Here is their discrimination against defense.

599
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: And I'll set this up this way. Texans accused of

600
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: winning ugly on Sunday, All right, ugly, whatever you want

601
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: to call it. You hold the Buffalo Bills to thirteen points.

602
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: The Patriots win a game later that night forty three

603
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: to forty. Is that winning pretty? When you give up

604
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: forty points? It looked good when you're moving the football,

605
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: but you gave up forty points. How is that any

606
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: less ugly than giving up thirteen market depends on who

607
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: you beat. If you beat Kansas City, it's not winning ugly.

608
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: If you get Buffalo in a close game, it's winning ugly.

609
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: And Baltimore, nobody's complaining in Baltimore about defense. I can't

610
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: wait to see how the Ravens continue to play defense,

611
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: and how are they trend setters, and which other teams

612
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: will watch how they're doing it. You know, not only

613
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: you have to have the personnel, but they got to execute.

614
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: And the Texans right now, other than missing the corners,

615
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: they're in pretty good shape. Andrea Howe is going to

616
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: be back sometime in the next three weeks. He'll give

617
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: them even more depth at safety, where they have three

618
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: new ones from when he started last year, and that's good.

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00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: And then Bill O'Brien told us early this week that

620
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: he expects Aaron Colvin and Kevin Johnson to come back

621
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: at some point. That would be great that they could

622
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: get full compliment. Now that's the one I'm not You know,

623
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: once you start to twenty one days, the clock is ticking,

624
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: so they can hold the ute formant as long as

625
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: they want. But once he comes to practice, he can

626
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: be activated two days later or three weeks later, but

627
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: once you hit that twenty second day, he got to

628
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: stay on the list or be on active roster. And

629
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: we know he's coming back at some point, John, what

630
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: do you have going out of the chronicle. I'm doing

631
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: this column on Jadevion clown taken out the trash and

632
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: he didn't say he regretted what he said about Bortles,

633
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: but he said why he said it, and of course

634
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: he turned it into a great thing, toys for kids

635
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: full of trash cans, so it worked out great. And

636
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: he said they were embarrassed last year and they're not

637
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: gonna get embarrassed again. Thank you gentlemen. Thank you Mark.

638
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: And now the quarterback for the Oilers and the love

639
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: you Blue Era, Dan Pastorini. Dan, my friend, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing. I'm good. I've been busy. We had our

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Speaker 1: Journey event this weekend for pian Angel, Dan Pastorini golf

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Speaker 1: turn and Tracy Bird Concert and we set a record

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Speaker 1: this year and had a great turn out. And then

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Speaker 1: I had my fundy Alston Days Government with the Ronald

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Speaker 1: McDonald House and they had the opportunity to play one

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Speaker 1: of the great Texans way Smith. I crushes the ball.

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Speaker 1: It kind of explodes it when he hit the but

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Speaker 1: every day we're having fun. Well, you crushed the ball too,

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Speaker 1: my friend. And I know that the be An Angel

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Speaker 1: stuff is important to you. You are a Haliburton hometown hero,

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Speaker 1: one of them this year, so that's great. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about this though, specifically because the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback of the Houston Texans is dealing with rib

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Speaker 1: problems and your name came up in my mind because

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Speaker 1: I know you have done the same thing. So if

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Speaker 1: you could just take me through a little bit of that,

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Speaker 1: I know it's in your book. I know that you've

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Speaker 1: discussed some of this before, but you kind of You

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Speaker 1: didn't invent rib injuries, but you were part of an

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Speaker 1: invention that helped people deal with them better in professional football.

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Speaker 1: You know. See, I'm crushed you don't remember these intricate

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Speaker 1: details of my life. You know, a friendship goes much

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Speaker 1: deeper than that I thought, but I guess not. Anyway, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know a little bit about broken ribs. Iron on

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Speaker 1: the designed I vest sports to go back from the

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Speaker 1: football head that was stuffed and didn't have air, and

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Speaker 1: it was a very good protector. I don't know it

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Speaker 1: was the protection of the flat jacket or there was

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Speaker 1: the marking and overturning that they didn't detected him into

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Speaker 1: my rits twenty four times a game. So I went

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Speaker 1: out there pretty numb in the ribs and had the

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Speaker 1: protection so I wouldn't hurt myself further. But you know,

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Speaker 1: if I had it to silver again, I think I'd

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Speaker 1: either play with the ribs broken, with the pain I'd

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Speaker 1: bite the bullet or not subject myself to injuring myself

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Speaker 1: any further. But I don't know what the song situation is,

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Speaker 1: but I think all quarterbacks were wearing those rib protectors.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he's more of a mobile quarterback. I was

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Speaker 1: more of a stable quarterback that I couldn't move very

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Speaker 1: well like he does, and I guess that might he

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Speaker 1: might feel that it hinders him a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: never noticed that because, like I said, I never ran.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's a great protection for ritz and

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Speaker 1: I highly recommended in the future. What's it like when

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Speaker 1: you have a rib injury, broken ribs, whatever, and you're

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Speaker 1: not playing, it's during the week, it's during practice. How

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Speaker 1: does it affect you on a day to day basis, Dote.

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Speaker 1: It affects everything you do, from breathing to sleeping, to

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Speaker 1: going to the bathroom, coughing, you know anything. It's just

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Speaker 1: a very The rib itself doesn't hurt, it's a cartlage

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Speaker 1: in between the ribs. It's very painful, very discomforting. You.

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Speaker 1: You'll lose some sleep, you know. It's kind of irritable

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Speaker 1: to kind of a nagging injury like that. What do

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Speaker 1: you think of Deshaun Watson as you watch him? He's

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Speaker 1: early in his development. I know it's been a couple

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Speaker 1: of seasons, but it's really not been a full season's

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Speaker 1: worth of games yet. What are your thoughts so far

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Speaker 1: at his progress? Dot Well, I think he's a talented individual.

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Speaker 1: I think that he's got tremendous ability. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see you stay away from the running the game, and

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him from incorporating him into the

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Speaker 1: running game as much. But like him, I think he's

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Speaker 1: a great talent, and I think he's got a commendous future,

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Speaker 1: and the ship Shippy proud to have it. As you

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Speaker 1: developed as a quarterback, Dante, how many years do you

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Speaker 1: think it took you to finally sort of see things

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Speaker 1: differently to have that veteran's eye on things, to be

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Speaker 1: able to spot things a lot easier because of experience.

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Speaker 1: How long did that take? Well, me, it took a

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Speaker 1: little longer because I had you know, we went through

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Speaker 1: four nine and one my first year. We were one

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Speaker 1: in thirteen and one and thirteen the next two years,

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Speaker 1: and then we finally had a five hundred season my

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Speaker 1: fourth season, and then we started to win. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the talent was there, it was just it's hard to

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Speaker 1: do things when you're on your back. So I had

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Speaker 1: some knowledge, I had some experience, but until I was

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Speaker 1: surrounded with you know, better players, and it allowed me

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Speaker 1: to you know, do more from a quarterback standpoint than

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Speaker 1: when we got When we got early in year, we

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Speaker 1: had you know, we were run first offense. But it

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Speaker 1: opened up our deep balls like running playa can pass it.

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Speaker 1: You had to respect whenever I stuck the ball in

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Speaker 1: his puma, but the linebackers couldn't you just drop it.

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Speaker 1: So it's a similar game. I think it's still a

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Speaker 1: game of thanks versus weaknesses. And you know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: making the coaches model there. I've never been a proponent

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Speaker 1: for calling plays from the sidelines. Because I think the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks should be smart enough to be out there in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the heat of the battle and see

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Speaker 1: the alignment better than you can shoos sign sideline and

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Speaker 1: especially from up top. He've got a bird's eye too,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's just teaching a game plan against

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Speaker 1: certain fronts and coverages that you want to get done

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Speaker 1: in the field of play, especially in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: Let him, let him, let him call the plays. He's

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Speaker 1: got a better feel out there there. He is Dan

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Speaker 1: Pastorini And check out more from Dan on the Vandermeer's

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Speaker 1: View podcast on Houston Texans dot com and all the

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Speaker 1: other great podcasts there. Now more of the rip stuff

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Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Minutes. Let's go up to Willowbrook and visit

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Speaker 1: with doctor Scott Rand of Houston Methodist. Doctor. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing Mark? How are you doing well? All right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about ribbage or he's because we do have

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Speaker 1: a notable one with the Houston Texans, and obviously Watson

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Speaker 1: has played I know people play through this stuff. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about rib injuries. I think bruised ribs, cracked ribs,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be very different, obviously, But how do

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Speaker 1: you gauge all that, it's not necessarily different. The pain

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Speaker 1: can be the same. Well that rib is cracked or

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Speaker 1: just bruised, but the cartilage being cracked. All those can

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Speaker 1: cause a significant amount of pain. How much pain it

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Speaker 1: causes depends on how many ribs are fractured, how much

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Speaker 1: jagged edge there is to the bone, and really where

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Speaker 1: on the ribb it is. The lower ribs have more

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Speaker 1: movement than the upper ribs, and sometimes they will hurt

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Speaker 1: a little bit more, and that's what that flat jacket

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Speaker 1: is really to help protect a little bit. It's surprising

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Speaker 1: that Watson was able to play as well as he

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Speaker 1: has because the majority of people we see honestly have

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Speaker 1: less ability than he does. Honestly, but I guess that's

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Speaker 1: my professional quarterback. Well, we've also seen players sometimes play

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Speaker 1: with a sternham problem, and that's obviously the breast bone

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Speaker 1: in front. So what about when that comes into play, doctor,

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Speaker 1: when the sternum gets cracked, that takes a whole lot

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Speaker 1: more energy to do that. And with any of those fractures,

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Speaker 1: it's not so much the bone you worry about, but

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Speaker 1: the organs that it's protecting. You crack a sterning, you

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Speaker 1: really have to worry about a contusion or a bruise

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Speaker 1: to the heart. Any of the rib fractures higher up

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Speaker 1: can cause bruises and the lung and down lower it's

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Speaker 1: the kidneys and the liver and the spleen. So what

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Speaker 1: we always worry about isn't so much of the rib

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Speaker 1: fracture but what organs sits right underneath it. So we

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Speaker 1: always worry about did they damage their kidneys when we

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Speaker 1: check their urine and those sort of things. The big

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Speaker 1: deal with ribs is it also causes pain when you breathe.

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Speaker 1: So one of the more common complications that happens after

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Speaker 1: root fracture is since you're not able to take a

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Speaker 1: deep breath, you end up with a pneumonia because your

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Speaker 1: lungs kind of collapsed down a little bit. Controlling pain

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Speaker 1: well enough for them to be able to deep breathe

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Speaker 1: is one of the main treatments for it. Now, what

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Speaker 1: about the setting or healing. You really can't set these right,

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Speaker 1: so you just sort of wait and make yourself as

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Speaker 1: comfortable as possible. How do you handle that your shut

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Speaker 1: can't set them? They do Heal surgery for a rib

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Speaker 1: fracture is almost non existent, so it is just a

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Speaker 1: time thing, and it's gonna be six to eight weeks

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Speaker 1: before those roots completely heal up and recover. But contrary

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Speaker 1: to other bones that you can hold still, that rip

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Speaker 1: moves every time you breathe, slopani will take a bit

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Speaker 1: longer and then end up with a little bit bigger

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Speaker 1: bony kallis around it when it does heal. Great information, Doctor,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for the time you bet Mark. Thank you, sir,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Scott Rant from Houston Methodist Willowbrook Hospital, Houston Methodist

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Speaker 1: Slash Athlete, the official healthcare provider of the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: Houston Methodist Leading Medicine. All right, that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for the show tonight. We want to thank everyone for

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Speaker 1: being on the program. John McClain, dam Pastorini, Scott Rand.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on tomorrow at six. Don't forget to

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Speaker 1: start your game day right with Texans Game down KPRC

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Speaker 1: Bills at noon. Of course, our pregame on radio gets

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Speaker 1: the Texans app, and we look forward to talking to

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Speaker 1: you from Jacksonville on Sunday. Have a great night everyone,

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Speaker 1: Go Astros, Go Texans.