WEBVTT - That's Racist pt. 2: The Worst Word

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<v Speaker 1>Uh are you're waiting on reparations? You're listening to Waiting

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<v Speaker 1>on reparations a production of I Heart Radio. All I

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<v Speaker 1>hear is nigga. This nigga that I'm telling everybody at

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<v Speaker 1>the bowling Alley where my nigga is, that everybody know

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<v Speaker 1>they got their triggers grass. If I actually need to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about that, I'm putting us in present for smoking grass.

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<v Speaker 1>Lockdown with a sentence that will last long. And they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want me saying the N word in my rap song.

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<v Speaker 1>Niggas want to sense to me. Put me in the penitentiary,

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<v Speaker 1>Lock me in the box and put me there for centurieson.

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<v Speaker 1>Then when I get mad to be like yo, that

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<v Speaker 1>nigga's menacing, sick my middle finger up at every racist sentity. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got your white teeth, hey, white teeth. If you

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<v Speaker 1>come up against me with your little white sheet on

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<v Speaker 1>your head like you was acting all nightly trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say the A word, I'm probably gonna spike me. How

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<v Speaker 1>to spike you in the face, Like my name was

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<v Speaker 1>Spike Lee. And if it's Spike Lee, you better go

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<v Speaker 1>and do the right thing. You say the wrong shit

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<v Speaker 1>around me, know what it might bring and you're the

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<v Speaker 1>fighting motherfucker's exciting. It's like a new igniting. Alright, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up. My name's Dope Knife from Lingua Franca. We

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<v Speaker 1>are waiting on reparations. We are here another week, fresh

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<v Speaker 1>air to breathe now now, well, last week I just

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<v Speaker 1>started teaching my hip hop and Public policy class. Shout out,

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<v Speaker 1>Walker Swain if the department is in. Yeah, I sucked

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<v Speaker 1>it up, my co teacher. So tomorrow we have our

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<v Speaker 1>second day of class, and we're talking about Tanisi coats

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<v Speaker 1>is case for reparations and analyzing it for the different

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<v Speaker 1>public policies that come up in it as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>doing that same kind of analysis on most des mathematics,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like look at something that's more of a

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<v Speaker 1>policy brief and an argument as something that's more just

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<v Speaker 1>like hip hop CNN coverage of life in the streets

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<v Speaker 1>and the way that public policy manifests in both of

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<v Speaker 1>those texts. The class line hour long, so that'll be

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<v Speaker 1>probably the whole class, but we're gonna have to we gotta,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta go into that. Yeah, we should bring Walker

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. We should. Uh. I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in some of my students perspectives in the future

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<v Speaker 1>episodes to see the kind of things that they say.

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<v Speaker 1>They're freshman, a little baby, so maybe they won't really

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<v Speaker 1>have anything insideful to say. You never know. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>we had the two conventions, and we've had the media

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<v Speaker 1>coverage that follows, and the different shifts in the poll

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<v Speaker 1>numbers and stuff like that. One of the interesting shifts

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<v Speaker 1>and pulling that kind of caught my eye was I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that in recent weeks that the soaring high approval

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<v Speaker 1>numbers that Black Lives Matter had is kind of leveled

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<v Speaker 1>out to being something a bit more realistic. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you what are your thoughts on that. The thing about

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<v Speaker 1>these poll numbers with regards to support for b LAM,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look back historically at how unpopular things

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<v Speaker 1>like integration of schools was at the time. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's it doesn't record, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>people need to let go what I'm talking more about now,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the moment, because the people who are already

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<v Speaker 1>against it are already like manipulating imagery and stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>paint the protests is something that's not or to paint

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<v Speaker 1>the rioting is being more part of the protest than

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Do you think there's like a risk of protests,

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<v Speaker 1>fatigue and backfiring. I mean, if it weren't footage of

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<v Speaker 1>the protests, it would be footage, it would be fottage

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<v Speaker 1>from literal world star like of black people being the

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<v Speaker 1>ship out of each other kids that they would use

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<v Speaker 1>to stoke those racial fears that have always been there anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So I really feel like we'd be at this point regardless.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I feel you on that, that's for sure. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode is going to be part two ongoing series

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<v Speaker 1>that we started at the beginning of the show called

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<v Speaker 1>That's Race Is. In today's episode, we're gonna be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about one of the most controversial words around and most

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<v Speaker 1>used depending on you know where you're at, Yes, party people,

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<v Speaker 1>I am talking about the N word. You mean ni

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<v Speaker 1>or at least it's hard our cousin. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how it's managed to stick around for so long

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<v Speaker 1>and as well as explores prevalence in hip hop music. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll try to see what type of commentary

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<v Speaker 1>rappers have made on it in music as well. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you what's your experience with the word, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>besides using it in rap songs. I haven't been called

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<v Speaker 1>like a nigger by like a white person outside the

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<v Speaker 1>context of the internet, uh, in a long time, not

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<v Speaker 1>since I was like a kid. I feel like, what

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<v Speaker 1>were the contexts in which you were like elementary school,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this white kid like refused to hold the door

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<v Speaker 1>open for me or something and then like called me

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<v Speaker 1>a nigger, like as he like slammed the door in

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<v Speaker 1>my face. And mean, what was the aftermath? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he got in trouble. We had taken to the principal's

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<v Speaker 1>office of ship and like talking to but I still

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<v Speaker 1>had to stay. I was like in fifth grade class

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<v Speaker 1>with him for the rest of the year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like he was still around. Yeah, I have a similar story.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when I was we're saying third grade and

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<v Speaker 1>the Malcolm X movie had just come out. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker was going to school where in the cap in

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<v Speaker 1>the sweater that had the X on it. That was

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<v Speaker 1>probably the first time that I had a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>heard a bunch of white kids say it to me. There.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the internet ship goes and comments sections,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I've have been or get called a

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<v Speaker 1>nigger and comments sections. But you know, I I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really I don't know. I just don't consider in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what we're talking about. I'm not really considering like

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<v Speaker 1>the virtual world of the Internet and social media. But

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<v Speaker 1>like my father didn't really use the word that much

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<v Speaker 1>or even with his friends and my mom's Africans, so

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<v Speaker 1>like she didn't even really hear that ship, so she

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<v Speaker 1>came to the States. So it was something that I

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<v Speaker 1>got exclusively from listening to rap music and ship and

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<v Speaker 1>being in these international schools for you know, people who

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<v Speaker 1>live overseas and shipped, like nine times of ten. I

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<v Speaker 1>was the only black kid, or one of the only

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<v Speaker 1>black kids in school. So it wasn't until I graduated

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<v Speaker 1>high school and went to Howard University that I was

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<v Speaker 1>around other black folks and started hearing it more and

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<v Speaker 1>incorporated into how I spoke and ship out, Like what's

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<v Speaker 1>your usage of it is something that you only use

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<v Speaker 1>in your because you use it very sparingly in your

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<v Speaker 1>rap songs, like I use it very sparely my rap songs.

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<v Speaker 1>I have occasionally actively used it in front of white people,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I'm only with white people, and then like

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<v Speaker 1>felt really embarrassed and bad in what sense I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to remember. So I was in Charleston right before

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic hit. I was hanging out my friends Chris

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<v Speaker 1>and Elliott, and something happened. We were at the hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>like drinking and laughing, and at some point I said

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like nigga, what And then like I stopped and

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<v Speaker 1>I realized who else with like a bunch of these

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, like gnarly white dudes. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, because I don't, like, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just weird. Well, I mean, like I didn't mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to, It just slips out sometimes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>most of my white friends are like hip hop has

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<v Speaker 1>and people who raped, So I don't know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>certain when I say it in front of them, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a certain level of not even being an issue

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody there knows what's up. So nobody's thinking it's

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<v Speaker 1>nigga that you know. It's like no one is getting

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<v Speaker 1>it twisted, and they just understand that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even I'm not even really that conscious of

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<v Speaker 1>it now. I mean, it really literally is some I

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<v Speaker 1>say it the same way I would say dude, no, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe to have come about in the eighteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>as an adaptation of the Spanish codinia grow, which was

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<v Speaker 1>itself at to send the Latin adjective and I G

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<v Speaker 1>e r, which means black um. By the mid twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the United States, has come to as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>be considered a racial insult, and as such it's acceptance

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<v Speaker 1>in popular culture, especially by non black people, has faded.

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<v Speaker 1>Its original English language usage, it was a word for

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<v Speaker 1>dark skinned individual. The earliest known published use of the

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<v Speaker 1>term dates back to fifteen seventy four, in a work

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<v Speaker 1>alluding to the n I G E r s of

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<v Speaker 1>the ethiop Bearing Witness. According to the Oxford's English Dictionary,

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<v Speaker 1>the first derogatory usage of the term wasn't recorded until

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred years later in seventeen seventy five. In the

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<v Speaker 1>Colonial America of the fifteen nineteen, one of the earliest

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<v Speaker 1>English settlers of North America, John Rolf, used any g

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<v Speaker 1>A r s in describing African slave ship to the

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Colony in the eighteen hundreds of eighteen forties. In

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<v Speaker 1>the West. In US during the fur trade, it was

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<v Speaker 1>spelled n I G G you are, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>common in literature at the time. It was recorded in

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<v Speaker 1>the mountain Man lexicon by British explorer George Frederick Ruxton,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently it didn't have any pejorative connotation back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and I G G you are was evidently similar

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<v Speaker 1>to the modern use of the term dude guy. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of similar to how it operates now, only

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<v Speaker 1>it was used by white people. Yeah. Um. This passage

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<v Speaker 1>from Ruxton's life in the Far West illustrates how the

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<v Speaker 1>word was used in spoken firm Uh. The speaker is

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<v Speaker 1>referring to himself here and he says, I'm gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to do this traveler marm, This niggers, No traveler, I

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<v Speaker 1>are trapper marm a mountain man walk all right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mount then, you know, use it. They didn't use

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<v Speaker 1>it in this period exclusively for black people. Also use

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<v Speaker 1>it for Indians, Mexicans, French men. Yeah, anyone could be

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<v Speaker 1>in an I A G D U I UM. The

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<v Speaker 1>noun slipped back and forth between derogatory and endearing. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>Colored and negro became more respectful alternatives with time. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighteen fifties, abolitionous organizations posted warnings Colored people

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<v Speaker 1>of Boston, you were respectfully caution to avoid conversion with

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<v Speaker 1>watchman and police officers of Boston. Journalists Clifton Johnson documented

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen o four how it was used in the South,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically because it was more offensive than colored or negrown.

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<v Speaker 1>The letter Niggers in the White House. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>poem published in newspapers all over the country for three

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<v Speaker 1>years from nineteen o one to nineteen o three, in

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to the White House dinner that was hosted by

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<v Speaker 1>Theodore Roosevelt, who had invited book or T. Washington at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And it reminds me kind of how Fox

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<v Speaker 1>News reacted when Obama invited common to the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they were, I mean, they were going crazy for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. They're like, have you heard this song

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<v Speaker 1>song about the Solder? And they're all like using their shipment.

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<v Speaker 1>In the book Bury That Soccer, A Scandalous Love Affair

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<v Speaker 1>with the N Word by H. Lewis Smith, he writes

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<v Speaker 1>that replacing the e er with A changes nothing other

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<v Speaker 1>than the pronunciation. The African American Registry notes that brother, brother, sister,

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<v Speaker 1>sister are terms of endearment. Nigger was still a word

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<v Speaker 1>of disrespect, and the double a CP It's well has

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<v Speaker 1>condemned the use of both and I G G A

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<v Speaker 1>and I G G E R. Some early documentation of

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<v Speaker 1>the word not using a pejorative fashion amongst black people

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<v Speaker 1>was in nineteen twelve in the book The Autobiography of

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<v Speaker 1>an ex Colored Man by James Weldon Johnson, who he

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<v Speaker 1>could have his own episode. He's like some biracial guy

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<v Speaker 1>who had like the sold Yeah, we'll definitely get into him. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But he recounted in a scene from the book, when

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<v Speaker 1>he was in New York City at the time, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed among this class of colored men the word

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<v Speaker 1>nigger was freely used in about the same sense as

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<v Speaker 1>the world fellow, and sometimes as a term of endearment.

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<v Speaker 1>But I soon learned what its use was, positively and

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely prohibited to white men. So that was as early

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen will that this was documented, a documented cultural

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<v Speaker 1>practice of it being used frequently among African Americans but

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<v Speaker 1>prohibited among whites. Says from two thousand six show that

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<v Speaker 1>nearly half of whites and two thirds of blacks knew

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<v Speaker 1>someone personally who are fewed referred to blacks by the term,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was two thousand six. So like some cultural

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<v Speaker 1>elements of it. So the implied racism of the word

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<v Speaker 1>has rendered its use taboo for the most part, So

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<v Speaker 1>like you won't see it in magazoo zines and newspapers generally,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're watching TV, you're more likely to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the word asks than you actually hear the word nigger,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's gonna be censored regardless of its usage in

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<v Speaker 1>most cases. In most cases, it's been controversial and its

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<v Speaker 1>use in um literature for a long time, the most

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<v Speaker 1>notable and lasting controversies being the words used in Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Twain's novel Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, as well as to

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<v Speaker 1>kill and Mocking Burton. The film Trouble Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an interview with this English teacher named Nancy Methellis

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<v Speaker 1>of the Boston Latin School, and she explains why she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't use the word in class. She says words are

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<v Speaker 1>amongst the most powerful things there are. A grown up,

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<v Speaker 1>middle aged white woman using that word gives another level

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<v Speaker 1>of meaning than a fifteen year old African American student.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I could hurt students by using it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel that my minority students want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>their white peers use the word either. And if it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out that we're sacrificing a little academic rigor in

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<v Speaker 1>service of not adding to anyone's pain, maybe that's okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like having a brank dialogue about the way

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<v Speaker 1>the word makes us all feel. I think as a

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<v Speaker 1>component of like an English light which arts class like

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<v Speaker 1>this or something like that is appropriate gauge different people's

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<v Speaker 1>comfort because I try to tell especially like why people well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess exclusively white people all the time. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I might feel comfortable with like people saying that

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<v Speaker 1>word in certain circumstances, but I can't speak for all

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<v Speaker 1>black people. I can't say that as as you know

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<v Speaker 1>the black person, Like this is how we all feel

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<v Speaker 1>about it, And it's really about gauging um, a person's

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<v Speaker 1>individual comfort um because I know some I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>know some brothers that don't care at all. Who uses

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<v Speaker 1>it at all? Yeah, No, I'm never comfortable with speaking

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<v Speaker 1>like my individual feelings on a subject is like what

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else who looks like me thinks. You know, so

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<v Speaker 1>links and heughs once said used rightly or wrongly, ironically

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<v Speaker 1>or seriously of necessity for the sake of realism or

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<v Speaker 1>impishly for the sake of comedy. It doesn't matter. Negroes

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<v Speaker 1>do not like it in any book or any play whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the book or play ever sys sympathetic and its

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<v Speaker 1>treatment of the basic problems of the race, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the book or play is written by a Negro, they

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<v Speaker 1>still do not like it. The word nigger, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>sums up for us who are colored, all the bit

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<v Speaker 1>of years of insult and struggle in America. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that ship. I don't like talking to be like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it, Like who is they? Who are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like lazy and hughes. I ain't trying to

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<v Speaker 1>start ship with you, alright, pbro like, don't speak for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even born yet, nigga, Like damn well, in

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<v Speaker 1>all fairness, he definitely came up in a time where

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<v Speaker 1>no white person who was saying it was saying it

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<v Speaker 1>because their favorite Drake song has the word in it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So just in that context,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably a bit more uptight about the words usage.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's let's not get it twisted. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is totally pulling numbers out of my ask. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would wager the like of black people in America don't

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<v Speaker 1>funk with white people using the word in any context.

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<v Speaker 1>That would just be my hunch. When giving a reason

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<v Speaker 1>for refusal to go into the Vietnam War, Muhammad Ali

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<v Speaker 1>once said, no viet cong ever called me nigger. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that goodass internationalist looking at like this oppression of

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<v Speaker 1>the working class all around the world, How you'd take

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<v Speaker 1>me to unite and take down the white supremacist that's

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I guess the whole point of what he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying is especially you know, in context of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you got you want me to go over

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<v Speaker 1>there and shoot some some brown yellow men, but y'all

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<v Speaker 1>aren't letting me, and we gotta fight for equality here,

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<v Speaker 1>So funk that? Oh shure, this is an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I found to check this out. In February of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven, the New York City Council symbolically

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<v Speaker 1>banned the use of the word. However, there is no

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<v Speaker 1>penalty for using it. The formal resolution also requests excluding

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<v Speaker 1>from Grammy consideration every song who's lyrics contain the word. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Roker, the Vice Presidents of Communications for the Recording

0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Academy doubted it would have any real effect on actual

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<v Speaker 1>nomination and not. Actually something similar with regards to awards

0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and stuff happened to me. I think in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen, I was passed over. I was a finalist

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<v Speaker 1>for the Songwriting Award, but the panel was uncomfortable that

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<v Speaker 1>I use the word nigger and my song you know,

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<v Speaker 1>soft Day but or whatever um because they thought they

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<v Speaker 1>thought it, I guess detracted from it's like literary merit

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like base and it made people uncomfortable. See, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where this is how I would stand in it,

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<v Speaker 1>right if they passed you up or excluded you because

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yo, we don't funk with that word. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know what I'm saying. On on some even

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<v Speaker 1>if if like someone like me would want to like

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<v Speaker 1>judge and be like, oh, that's like some fake moral

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<v Speaker 1>stance or whatever. But if it's like, hey, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to use this word and we don't wanna, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, we're anti this word, then be

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<v Speaker 1>anti that word. But don't make shift up like the

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<v Speaker 1>use of this word affects something's literary or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>artistic merit and ship like that. That's all like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion, man, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>So in there was a Kendrick Lamar concert and he

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<v Speaker 1>brought a white girl up from stage to come and

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<v Speaker 1>sing some words to the song Matt City with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and she did not stop herself from saying then word.

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<v Speaker 1>It was this whole thing where like they stopped the

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<v Speaker 1>music and you know, he put her on blast, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it wasn't really like a mean putting her

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<v Speaker 1>on blast, but it was definitely like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just seemed really kind of like staged, but whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like now you fast forward two years later

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, I feel like, if it really happened,

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<v Speaker 1>that that girl probably would have been speaking at the

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<v Speaker 1>RNC like on some anti cancel culture ship at that

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<v Speaker 1>time that I got canceled at the Kendrick Lamar concert

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't heard anything else from her, but just

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<v Speaker 1>in general, the whole conversation of white people hearing it

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<v Speaker 1>in songs and singing along with it or not, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that every white person in that stadium when

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing that ship was wrapping that word along

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<v Speaker 1>up into that point she got the ire until because

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<v Speaker 1>she was in the spotlight. And I mean Kendrick Lamar's

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<v Speaker 1>own labelmate, Schoolboy Q actually has a complete opposite stance

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<v Speaker 1>where he actually encourages about the fucker's at his show

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<v Speaker 1>to like wrap the ship along. He does specify like

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<v Speaker 1>use it here in this space and in this context

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<v Speaker 1>and not so that they don't use it on the

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<v Speaker 1>street or something like that's give him the wrong idea.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well my black friends, Schoolboy can said, I

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<v Speaker 1>can um. BBC extras, DJ Sideman actually quit his job

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<v Speaker 1>over report where they used the word in a quote.

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<v Speaker 1>It was reporting on a hate crime that had happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess the family of the victim wanted them

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<v Speaker 1>to say what was said to the victim before. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the same with the ML's mom had to help them

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>cask the funeral. It's like, we all gotta do this

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.920
<v Speaker 1>ship to ask. You want to see it, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>see it, and it's full horrid. Now, it did end

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<v Speaker 1>up being a white reporter that they had say it,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean if I worked at BBC and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just in my office and my cubicle doing my ship

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody walks and it's like, Yo, we got this

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<v Speaker 1>report where we need somebody to say nigga, and we

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<v Speaker 1>thought you'd be the perfect guy for the job that

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<v Speaker 1>might make me feel some kind of way, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess it depends on so many dynamics

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<v Speaker 1>that they encounter in the workplace, Like if they have

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<v Speaker 1>some races, motherfucker sayre like hey sambo, like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like if they're already like if they're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some smells funny when you walk in the coffee room

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<v Speaker 1>and like your whole like microaggressions, you know, like abound

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<v Speaker 1>in your everyday experience. That might be the tipping point

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Per an article in The Undefeated by Brando

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Semeo Starkey, he says that white folk indoctrinated them into

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<v Speaker 1>accepting their supposed inferiority. These narratives illustrate the success of

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign of mental terrorism. In no word conveyed the

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<v Speaker 1>depth of this internalized oppression more than nigger. Black folte

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<v Speaker 1>rescued the word from this moldering debris a virulently racist land,

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 1>reclaimed it and renovated the slur into a celebration of

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<v Speaker 1>black camaraderie. Defenders of contemporary usage of nigger. Repeat this.

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<v Speaker 1>When this tale collides with reality, however, it shatters as

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<v Speaker 1>a misreading of history. The current use of the word

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<v Speaker 1>is owed less to white folk calling black folk nigger

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<v Speaker 1>and more to black folk who thought they were niggers

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<v Speaker 1>and said so. Black people have hurled the infamous word

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<v Speaker 1>for nearly as long as white folks have exists within

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<v Speaker 1>black sweet Now, because it existed within black sweech, then

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<v Speaker 1>I think to about a little bit earlier, the uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>truth must be confronted. Absolutely internalized oppression of those who

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<v Speaker 1>called white men and black white men and women their masters.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigger would probably not be part of black folks's lexicon.

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<v Speaker 1>We black folks are, we claiming it not from bigoted

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.719
<v Speaker 1>white folks, from from our ancestors who sadly deemed their

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<v Speaker 1>blackness as a badge of inferiority, Which I think is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>M as Motherfuck's been he got a quote from him

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<v Speaker 1>later on. Um, but this takes us to uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the hip hop in a while ago, you know almost

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<v Speaker 1>ship at this point, over a decade ago, Nas the

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<v Speaker 1>Rapper ran into some controversy with his now awesome and

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<v Speaker 1>in my personal opinion, it's like one of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>standout disk and his discography, which is his untitled album

0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight. Well, it had like a

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<v Speaker 1>little controversy because he originally wanted to name it Nigger,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean he went on a campaign to name

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<v Speaker 1>this ship like my next album is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>called you know what I'm saying. So you had like

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<v Speaker 1>a year or however long building up of just knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that that was going to be the name of his

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<v Speaker 1>next album. And it's like the closer that it got

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<v Speaker 1>to what it was supposed to come out, the more

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't debate it if a topic it became, he

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<v Speaker 1>ended up not naming it that and decided to go

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<v Speaker 1>with untitled for the project because he started having problems

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<v Speaker 1>with Walmart saying that they weren't going to sell it

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, other retailers, which is a whole other

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing in itself because it's like, think of a

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 1>time in music where whether or not Walmart sold your

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>CD was determined Yea or Baker Break Like this is

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<v Speaker 1>before the Internet was really like the main means of

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>consuming music and ship. But you know, anyway, he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up changing it, and uh, some of his thoughts in

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<v Speaker 1>the matter. He said, it's all about the intent and

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<v Speaker 1>which you mean, how it's coming off, the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying it. You know, if it's intent is angry

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 1>and you're being ignorant, being mean spirited saying that word,

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>it means the worst. If you just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>black guys in the street corner, doesn't mean it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great thing. But it's not that they're trying to harm

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<v Speaker 1>each other. I mean, I think he's kind of contradicting

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<v Speaker 1>himself a little bit. He talks about the intent and

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<v Speaker 1>then also how it's coming off and how they both matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of feel like he's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>look a bit confused in this quote. It will hould

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<v Speaker 1>up all the semantics, But I mean I understand like

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<v Speaker 1>getting pressured. I mean, there's there's a constant battle between

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<v Speaker 1>like the younger generations and like the elders. I think

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>in the black community there's a special relationship and special

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>reverence for our elders. And so I can see where

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>he's coming from with like not liking the heat that

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>he's getting when he's like a he's a very skilled

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>artist and wanting to bring attention to like his artistry

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<v Speaker 1>rather than like a controversy surrounding a word with which

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<v Speaker 1>he has labeled his music. Brooklyn assemblymen Kim Jefferies suggested

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<v Speaker 1>that New York's Controller withdraw eighty four million dollars from

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<v Speaker 1>the state pension fund that has been invested into Universal,

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the parent company of Vendi, which put out the album,

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<v Speaker 1>if the title wasn't change damn So. Chairman of Death

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<v Speaker 1>Jam at the time, l A. Reid, stated that the

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<v Speaker 1>label fully back NAS and his decision on name his album,

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<v Speaker 1>and NAS also received her support from Ice Cube, Jay Z,

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<v Speaker 1>Bishop Lamar Keys at the local j Revron comment A

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<v Speaker 1>com at Man, Blue May Biasco, David Banner, jess A

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<v Speaker 1>and Melimo. But and the kitchen in the kitchen fucking thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty much all of hip hop was behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to the head of his label comments said,

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<v Speaker 1>NASA is always bringing something new. Man, I've been smoking

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 1>too much to do my common voice. I can't go

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>down the outives. NASA has always been doing. Oh my god,

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>NASA has always been a common said, NASA has always

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<v Speaker 1>been bringing something new, bringing something for us to think about.

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the best ever. If it wasn't for Nas.

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>A lot of cats, including myself, wouldn't be rhyming the

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<v Speaker 1>way they do. So, I mean, I know the title

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<v Speaker 1>of something behind what he's doing. He's making statements. That's

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>something we need in hip hop. Last poets did it,

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Gil Scott Heron did it, Marvin Gay did it. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta keep making statements. What is the statement? Like, what

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>is the point? Well, that's what this is. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this, which is like, don't give every not everybody

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>had like some huge master plan about ship. You know

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I think if Nas were, if Nasa

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<v Speaker 1>were a different rapper other than Nas, I think he

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>would have just done it to be provocative, which there's

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with I make music to try to be provocative,

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, you know what I'm saying. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think because of the weight of being Nas that people

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>might have felt that there had to be some deep

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<v Speaker 1>meaning and reason for why he did it. Yeah, he

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>did get criticism from fifty Will Smith, of course, Al Sharpton,

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Bill O'Reilly, Oprah Winfrey, Jesse Jackson and unless we said

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>before the double A CP wasn't too happy about this either.

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>In fact that Al Sharpton said, brendan age where they're

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>hanging nooses locking our kids up in Gina and Florida.

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>We do not need to be degrading ourselves. We get

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 1>degraded enough. I think we need artists to lift us up,

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>not knock us down. And this is pretty fun. This

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>nonsense man, that's stoopids stupid name doesn't make any sense.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Why would you name it that? Bruce straight to it.

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>None of the explanations really seemed to make sense to me,

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think it made that much sense to

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>him either, which is why he like quickly it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, the different title ain't worth putting up

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<v Speaker 1>the fight over. Let's stick into our music discussion for today.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to the N word used in

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>music for the music discussion, pretty much it comes down

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of rap songs use the N word

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<v Speaker 1>c N All right, everybody see you next week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just joking. So one of the earliest recordings of the

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>use of the word in a rap song the rapper

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Scooby D and his song Scooby Rap. Here's the passage

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<v Speaker 1>and so in this context, and it sort of used

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<v Speaker 1>prejoratively among African Americans that in the next line, he's like,

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>stay back, suck U suck to stay back. I mean

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>it's still in that context, is still kind of dude

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>or fellow ish, I show these dudes where to go,

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that I think a better example what

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about is going to be on the next

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>song that we got, which is Niggas and Flies by Scarface.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's check your class, Thomas, motherfucking So he's kind of

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>like lobbying critiques at niggas generally. Damn, this is a

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty scathing indictment establishment black people, It really is. That

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>song is actually on the soundtrack to the movie Dead

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Presidents by the Hughes Brothers. What do you feel about

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>his use of the word nigga in that context of

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>like making that indictment, It constructs the sense of familiarity,

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>like I know you bish. Yeah, Like I might not

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>never met Clarence Thomas in my life, but if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna call him a nigga, it's because, like I am,

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm asserting that I have this like this intimate knowledge. Yeah,

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know who you are. I know who

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>you are. Yeah, Yeah, that's good. So the next JOm

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>we got is the track Niggas for Life by nWay.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>This song is literally about the topic of why do

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<v Speaker 1>they use the word niggas so much in their rap music?

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it's the U and cheek. I get

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the impression the song is done more for laughs than anything,

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>but you know, some of it is definitely coming from

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the heart as far as they're concerned. Let's check, because

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>police always want to harrass me every time that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>lent ron. First, I want to take note of the

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<v Speaker 1>intro where you hear like the cascade of vocals of

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>different black and white people disapproving of how often they

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>use the word in their music and ship, and then

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you have that one like voice in the distance of

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>like a racist white dude going the niggers right before

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 1>the song starts. That's some ship. I think it's an

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>interesting indictment of like the situation that it's like, no

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>wonder I self identify by this pejorative if you look

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>at everything that's happening around me, talking about I'm not

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to flip burgers, I'm not trying to get shot,

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>dropping a liquor store, all these like these bleak circumstances

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>around someone. It's like why wouldn't I Why wouldn't I

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>call myself a nigger? You gotta keep in mind when

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>n w A made that song, like adults weren't fucking

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>with though, you know what I mean, Like older Black

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>people weren't cool with why do I call myself a

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>nigked They were literally steamrolling records in the streets on

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>like writing protests to like stuff like this coming out

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and ship like that. So some of it is reactionary

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.959
<v Speaker 1>to to like being young men that suddenly find themselves

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>famous and making money making the music that they're making,

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and then having this strong reaction from the elders in

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>your community for a specific word, like something's wrong with

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you because you're using this word in your music, this word,

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to all the other things that you could

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>be doing this word. This is where you draw on

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the line. Okay um. Next we have the title song

0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>off of NASA's now untitled album This Is and I

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<v Speaker 1>Double g e Er off the album untitled They Double

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>g E We all much more, but still what you

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>ignore the obvious we are the slave. Okay. First off,

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say the song's fucking dope, regardless

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of whatever sucking Flow Imagery. The second verse guys, I

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start giving like more like strong opinions about music.

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>But the second verse of this song is some of

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>NAS's best work, point blank period. He goes off in

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the imagery talking about the ten foil Antenna's dyeing your

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>hair at the cool aid. I die my hair with

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>cool Ai when I was a little too, did you ah?

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think I mean in the framing, I guess

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>this gives me it's funny that he went to war

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>with the in double a C P over the title

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>of this album, even that he is called a framing

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>it like they call us this, but we're so much more.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>It's reaction. I mean, I feel like I feel like

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm both. I had to feel like. I don't know

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>how much he really really was thinking about explain at

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>least at the very least explaining the title before the controversy.

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>But um, I think that if a lot of the

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>people who reacted badly to it had actually listened to

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the album first, that I could have helped in like

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>coming up with an opinion about the ship. You know,

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>if you hear the ship first. I don't know, that's

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>just yeah, yeah, I think this was the first song too,

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>so it would have kind of put ship in a

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit framing if you had just like given the

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>album like a minute long listen, yeah, at least a single.

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>As soon as you put the name of the album out,

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>people be like, So I originally had jay z is

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the story of o j on here, but then I

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>was kind of gonna take it off because I was thinking, Man,

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>all he does is say the word nigga over and

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>over again, but there's not really any sort of context

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>or insight that we can really get from the usage

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>of it. But um, hey, that's not true the more

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought about it. But second, the opening line of

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>the song, uh made me reference that Undefeated article that

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about earlier. Let's check out this still

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:22.399
<v Speaker 1>ni OJ like, I'm not black, I'm o Jay, don't

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>funk with me, right, So going back to Brando Starkey's article,

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>which by the way, was titled if you truly knew

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>what the N word meant, our ancestors, you'd never use it.

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>But he's got this passage in there that relates to

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>this line. So he said. Perhaps more depressing, ironically, was

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>that the circumstances sometimes led them to opt against calling

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>a black person a nigger. William Porter stated that some

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of the Tennessee niggers were called free niggers. There was

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a colored man in Polanski, Tennessee, who owned slaves, a

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>black man who kept others in bondage. He's a colored man,

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>yet those who he kept in dage were niggers. I

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>instantly thought of the moment from O J made an

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.760
<v Speaker 1>America documentary when a white woman saw black people talking

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to o J. And she uttered, look at those niggers

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>sitting with o J. Simpson delights and hearing this because

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>she quote knew I wasn't black. She saw me as

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>o J. Porter's outlook matched that of both the racist

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>white woman and the unspeakably racially deranged o J. I

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>wonder if jay Z was making a reference specifically to

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>that incident in that documentary or if that was just

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>some other known thing about o J that he was referencing.

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And the last song is by a Long Island, New

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:42.439
<v Speaker 1>York rapper named all One. This song is called rush Hour,

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>and what makes this really cool is all One's a

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.919
<v Speaker 1>white guy and this song is about the first time

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that he saw the movie Rush Hour, back when he

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>was a kid, and he was geeking off of the

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>line where Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker were like, what's

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 1>up my nigua and were calls going to school the

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>next day and repeating it with his friends and a

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>black kid hearing it, and the incident that ensued afterwards.

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a really interesting way to talk about approach the

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>subject matters. If I had said some crass expletive, I'd

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>like to say, story for and Genuoue, I just asked

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.320
<v Speaker 1>if she could help to clarify or help me understand

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the crime that I was called outside for. Meanwhile, he

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>just stopped and cried more. He repeated the story of

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the rush hour line, of course, the one with the

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 1>end mystery. I still didn't get it, so I said this,

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and I timidly admitted that I had mimicked indiscriminately and

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>no one else had exhibited misery. That's when they explained

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>this significance to me. Oh, I felt like a trotolosite

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>honest I apologize, which moderately mollified his melancholy solemn eyes

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>walked inside, locked my eyes on the hard tiled floor,

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>shocked or bible stick and wonder how am my soft

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and bright tongue could turn on me and do so

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 1>much hurt with one word and with the vein of ignorance.

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I tainted that little kid or exchange gave him his

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>first racist experience, and I wondered, decades later who it

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:04.280
<v Speaker 1>resonates across the years he's lived. That Damn what a narrative.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 1>You love a good narrative wrap, you know, there's so

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>few and far between, and when they're well done, they're

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.479
<v Speaker 1>well fucked. I love that, Like I love how he's

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely mastered his like spoken word sort of style,

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>strong coffeehouse like spoken word, nive vibes. Yeah for real,

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>like he yeah he he should be doing like woodstock

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>or some ship. But what do you? What do you like?

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you? How do you? Uh? What's your reaction

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 1>to the subject matter of the song of the story

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>was that kid? No? I totally understand, Yeah, that the

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 1>racial insensitivity of people that for that are too young

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to understand the experience of the people who are unlike

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>them can imagine feeling a different way about something than

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>they do because they're just emotional maturity is not yeah

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you know they're twelve. Yeah, I mean we're fortunate. I

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>guess too, have had our main experiences with that word

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 1>have been when we were really young, and it kind

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of being in the you know, cruel ignorance of children

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to how some other people deal it. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean a mad Aubrey got called a digger right after

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<v Speaker 1>he got shot, when he was laying on the ground bleeding.

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<v Speaker 1>So perspective on everything, all right, So I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>got for this week. Yeah, we gotta close it off

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<v Speaker 1>with the rapping like we always do. Right, that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be going check check. Yeah. We wait in the reparations.

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<v Speaker 1>We wait in the reparations though, so yeah, yeah, check it. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to be my nemesis. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>the premises. If you white, don't say the N word

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<v Speaker 1>up in my premises, I would hate to whip your

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<v Speaker 1>fucking ass like I'm the Genesis. Sorry, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>old fashioned like the Genesis. If you want to say it, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know there's a prerequisite. Make sure that your skin

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<v Speaker 1>is black at home, and you won't catch your brick

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<v Speaker 1>stone to the full head. Not homie, we don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>miss when my niggas break your wind shield. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get it fixed and it ain't so unique, So

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<v Speaker 1>what your motive be? Trump got white folks saying nigga

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<v Speaker 1>for they go to sleep. They want to arrest me

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<v Speaker 1>because my skin doc is nestle and I'm short like PESHI.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't help it. I'm a nerd till I'm dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm screaming in white folks like I heard what you said.

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<v Speaker 1>You niggas is too comfortable, be nervous. Instead, I'm making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you know that there's a word to regret.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm running out of words in my head. I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for you. You gotta start. Let me get this second

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<v Speaker 1>and the second. No, I gotta keep me rolling. Probably, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you say nigger around me, we're about to be

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<v Speaker 1>ill in my fucker don't care if you army are

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<v Speaker 1>civilians about to come all up in your village and pillage.

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<v Speaker 1>Motherfucker's know that I'd be spilling mad words because I

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<v Speaker 1>got a crazy vocabulary. And if you don't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>can tuck your dictionary or go and tell the god

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<v Speaker 1>fairy godmother that you need another book cover on the

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<v Speaker 1>textbook because I'm dropping knowledge. Motherfucker's know that I got

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<v Speaker 1>it in my pocket. It's witten it all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's all locked up in my locket. I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it so funny. Motherfucker's not that I'd be challenging

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<v Speaker 1>these people to a comedy. Yeah, we are waiting on reparations.

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<v Speaker 1>Hurry up, hr up, goddamn good night. Waiting on reparations

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<v Speaker 1>as a production of I Heart Radio. Listen to Waiting

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