1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: on the radio every day alive from one till four. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: After four o'clock, you could hear the show on the 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: iHeart app John Kent on demand and pick up whatever 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: you missed. Yeah, and appreciate the fact that we try 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: really hard not to be deep faked. Okay, that's what 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: we're working on here constantly. But one day. Sensational stories 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: are great, but sometimes they're just a fake out clickbait. 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: It's getting tougher and tougher. It's bad enough waiting through 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: all the news bias and partisanship all at this, but 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: now you gotta and it's virtually impossible because they they 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: the AI can write realistic sounding stories and and kind 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: notice something else too, that everyone now is trying to 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: take a flea and blow it up into an elephant. 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: He'll seize on one story and say say that proves 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: my point right there. I'm like, well, that's just one 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: thing that happened. It's well, it doesn't matter, no, it happened, 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: and therefore I'm right, improves my point. The Times does 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: this a lot, but so does the right wing media. 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: They both do it so. But here's something we warned 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: you about, and we've talked about this for years. As 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: we watch the California criminal justice system slowly, well maybe 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: faster now collapse. We have an La County DA who's 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: we have a sacramental legislature. That's we're going to talk 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: about with Michael Rushford, the founder, president, chief executive officer 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation. He's been on our 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: show many times before and he's good at alerting us 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: to some of these things involving crime, legislation and Sacramento. 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: It is Senate Bill ninety four, which has been authored 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: by a state senator named Dave Cortisse of Santa Clara, 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: and apparently it gives the state's worst murderers, those who 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: already been sentenced to death or good old lwop life 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: without the possibility of parole, the opportunity for freedom. Like 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: we said, the Creeping Crawl, someday there'll be no such 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: thing as life without par because that's they told us. 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: We'll get rid of the death penalty, but don't worry. 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: Life without parole make sure they never get any freedom. 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: So let's bring on Michael Rushford to talk about the 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: details of this proposal. Michael, how are you. I'm good, gentlemen. 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: We were joking before that you only come on when 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: there's really bad news, and this is really bad news. 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: That's it. I'd like a different job. Well, I'd like 44 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: you to come on one day and say there's a 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: really good bill and it's really going to crack down 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: on crime, and it's everybody should support it. But that 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to happen often. It's in Virginia. It's a 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: different place. It's just not here, all right. What's this about? Well, 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: this is about and as you very adroitly nailed it, 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: the anti death penalty crowd, which is the dominant law 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: enforcement group in the state legislature of the majority, are 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: going to try and take out the death penalty in 53 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: life without parole in one shot. And SB ninety four 54 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: is the bill. They're going to do that in the 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: Senate Public Safety Committee of all places tomorrow, and we 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: both have enough history with Gavin Newsom to note that 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: if this bill passes, he'll sign it. And what it 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: does is it gives murderers before who were convicted before 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety a shot at getting their sentence reduced. They 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: get a free public defender to do that and also 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: to invalidate their conviction and then they're eligible for a release. 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Why did they pick June fifth, nineteen ninety Have any 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: idea I think that, well, it's I think it's to say, well, 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: these are just really old murderers, so they should get 65 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: to get out. But you also know that Newsome, Bonta, 66 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: the new da A, Awomeda County, and the governor all 67 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: think all criminals should never serve more than fifteen to 68 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: twenty years. Yeah, we were talking about that. I know, 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: I've heard that from some prosecutors like Gascone and fifteen 70 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: to twenty years is enough time for anything. Gascone and Bonta, Yeah, 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: they're on the record. Yeah. So it's this is this 72 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: is their dream, and the legislature is going to start 73 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: where a you know, I wouldn't call it a small bite, 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: but they're going to bite half the apple this time, 75 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: and then guess what, in a year or two, if 76 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: they get this through, they're going to be back for 77 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the rest of the murder. Well, they have been very 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: successful over the last thirteen years in incrementalism, passing one 79 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: small bill after another that eventually destroys the justice system. Yeah, 80 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: the weight of the legislation that's been passed in the 81 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: last ten years is such now that there is no justice. 82 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: You heard about the sixteen year old boy was killed 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: sitting in his car in Koreatown last night. Yeah, okay. 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: The guy that shot him was probably out on parole 85 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: or with no bail by your district attorney. State law 86 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: empowered him to do that. And this is happening all 87 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: over the state. Five year old girl was shot sitting 88 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: in her parent the back of her parents car in 89 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: a barrier freeway. The other day. We all heard about 90 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: the high tech executive that was stabbed to death on 91 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: a San Francisco sidewalk. I mean, this is this is 92 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: a daily occurrence in California now. And as the release says, 93 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: no justice, no piece, that's California, okay justice and we 94 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: got no pieces. I have never run into a normal 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: human being in my life who has ever said, boy, 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: if we could just let all the murderers out after 97 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: twenty years. It is the public completely anesthetized. Oh, I 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Last November, Los Angeles voted for war crime. Now, 99 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're not watching the news, or 100 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: if they're hiding in their basement or whatever. But I 101 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: mean every day there are ten fifteen terrible crimes in 102 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and I mean terrible crimes, just innocent people 103 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: getting attacked with samurai swords walking down Wilshire Boulevard. So 104 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: you vote for a pro criminal mayor and reject the 105 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: crime fighting candidate, and you replaced your crime fighting sheriff 106 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: with a guy who wants to work with a gascon office. 107 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: So this is I don't know what's going on in 108 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, how much blood has to run down the street, 109 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: but it's happening all over the state, but you've got Gascon. 110 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: So you are a little couple notches ahead of the 111 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: rest of us. Oh yeah, no, we're pioneers here. You 112 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: cited in your article in California Globe an example of 113 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: what could happen. And I don't know if you know this, 114 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Michael Rushford, but you picked a story that we've spent 115 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: a lot of time out in the past, and this 116 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: is a murderer by the name of Tiquon Cox. In 117 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, he went to the wrong home for 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: a gang revenge killing, and he murdered a mother, her daughter, 119 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: and two of her grandchildren. Those people were all related 120 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: to former NFL player Kermon Alexander, who appeared on our 121 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: show many times. It's been a while now because he 122 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: wanted this guy executed. Now, what you're saying in your 123 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: latest story is nutli. Is it not going to be executed? 124 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: He might be released or possibly under this bill if 125 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: it passed. Oh yeah, let's talk about Stevie Lamar Fields. 126 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: He beat a guy to death with a barbell in 127 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight. He got released. Fourteen days after his release, 128 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: he did a crime spree where he murdered a student 129 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: librarian at UCLA. Then he robbed a guy at gunpoint, 130 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: and then he kidnapped, raped, and robbed another student and 131 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: then a third woman who was kidnapped and raped. This 132 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: this is he got the death penalty. They're never going 133 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: to execute him, and they might let him out. We 134 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: all heard about that Michael Morale's case where he kidnapped 135 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: the seventeen year old cheerleader and beat her with a hammer, 136 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: then raped her and stabbed her to death. That was 137 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: a big case. I just wanted to be clear here. 138 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: So the people sentenced to death before June fifth, nineteen ninety, 139 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: would be able to get out of prison if this 140 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: bill passes. Yeah, Yeah, they get a pre d and 141 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: then they get to petition the court for resentencing. And 142 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: if they're LA murderers, do you think the DA's gonna 143 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: fight it um? And then if the judge decides he's 144 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: eligible for resentencing anything, they sentence him. Probably even if 145 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: it's ELWAP is included. So if you if you've only 146 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: got a LAP, you get resentencing too, So you're gonna 147 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: get life with parole. And then a're gonna say time serve, 148 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: let him out. And I'm thinking of in the last 149 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: couple of years, we've had several police officers who were 150 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: killed by criminals, and I could see the same thing 151 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: happening that after they serve some amount of time. But 152 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: you're you're saying, right now, it's only for murderers before 153 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, but you know, God, that could get him out. 154 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna start releasing. And people who get sentenced to 155 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: death committed unusually vicious crimes, but the worst, the worst, 156 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: And I can't imagine in California, which has always been 157 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: somewhat resistant to the death penalty, imagine the crimes that 158 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: were committed in California to get the death penalty. This 159 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: stuff is going to make people's hair fall out when 160 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: they find out these guys are getting released, these are 161 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: getting we're hearing from those victims now, and we're in 162 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: a lawsuit to try and block the early release of 163 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: a guy who killed a Southern California contractor many years ago, 164 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: and now he's eligible for parole under its new state laws. 165 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: He didn't get the death sentence, he got sentenced to 166 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: life without parole, but now it's with parole. And when 167 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: the daughter found out about it, she went nuclear and 168 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: finally she comes to us and we said, we'll see, 169 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: we'll see if it can stop this, and we've stopped 170 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: it for a while. But the legislature has a way 171 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: of going around behind everybody's back and passing a bill 172 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: to allow what gascon wants. They did it last year 173 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: a couple of times, so it's it is not surprising 174 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: that they are enabling murderers who got LWOP to get 175 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: released early already, and this is just the next step. 176 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: As you point out, they're they're just incremental exactly right. 177 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you really literally want to abolish prisons 178 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: and incarcerat no one. You have to dig at every 179 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: angle to this, which even murderer set's the promised land 180 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: for them, right, No more prisons, no more. It's George 181 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Soros's wet dream is to empty out the prisons and 182 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: including the murderers in Los Angeles. Why does Soros want 183 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: to do this? I read that he has financed billions 184 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: of dollars to these organizations that have backed these candidates. What, 185 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: oh yeah, what what is in it for him? Um? 186 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: You have to ask a progressive what goes on in 187 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: their brains. I don't quite understand it, but I think 188 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Soros buys into that we're just too harsh on criminals. 189 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: You know, in Europe, if you kill forty five fifty people, 190 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: you get seventeen years. The guy that blew all those 191 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: people away in that Scandinavian beach, yeah, Norway got seventeen 192 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: years for it. So he's that's where he's coming from. 193 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: He's we have to not be harsh and they may 194 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: redeem themselves, and so this is fine. A lot of 195 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: people came across the ocean to live in America where 196 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: we could do what is really morally right for these 197 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: murderers and that has put him to death. Don't let 198 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: them breathe our air. They don't deserve it. And I 199 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: gotta say, California voters in twenty sixteen, throughout an initiative 200 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: to a bossh the death penalty and passed our initiative 201 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: to strengthen it and speed it up. So California still 202 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: wants to see the worst murderers put to death. I 203 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: just don't. I don't see the other side given up. 204 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: All right, Michael, thank you so much for coming on again. 205 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: We appreciate it and alerting us to this. Thanks guys 206 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Hi he's the founder, president, chief executive officer of the 207 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Criminal Justice Legal Foundation. And again, this is Senate Bill 208 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: ninety four from a state senator named Dave Cortisse that 209 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: basically would allow anybody was convicted of murder before June fifth, 210 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety get the death penalty or life without parole 211 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: could actually be released. And there's there's one assemblywoman from 212 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: our region, Corey Jackson from Riverside, who's also a co 213 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: writer of this bill. Right, the rest of them, Jackson, 214 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: rest of them are Northern California and San Diego. One. Yeah, 215 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: there's somebody from San Diego. All right, we're coming up 216 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken KIM six forty. 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Around three twenty pm, we just got 226 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: done talking to Michael Rushford with the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, 227 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: and this really bears emphasizing. It's an attempt in Sacramento 228 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: a brand new bill that they're going to debate in 229 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: the Senate that basically would release murderers of all kinds. 230 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: They're going back to nineteen ninety. Now, if you committed 231 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: to murder or sentence before nineteen ninety to death or 232 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: life in prison without parole, you have a shot of freedom. 233 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: So they're gonna start with the older inmates saying, well, 234 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: you know what they've already served like thirty years or 235 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: forty years. Yeah, they've done enough. But believe me, we've 236 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: watched this, the incremental creeping crawl. That date will move up. 237 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: You'll see it happen in the next few years. If 238 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: this passes. It is baffling why the public. I can 239 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: only explain that people are so disconnected and pay so 240 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: little attention. And most of these stories are covered almost nowhere. 241 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: You have to go to a niche news site like 242 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: California Globe dot com. Most people aren't reading that. No, 243 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: most of the mainstream news sites don't cover this. You 244 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: won't see this on TV news, and most people still 245 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: get their news from TV or they get it from 246 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: their social media feed. But the social media feed depends 247 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: on regular news organizations covering it. You know, Facebook doesn't 248 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: make up its own news, but Facebook will provide you 249 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: with a news feed based on, you know, what your 250 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: interests are. But you know, Michael Rushford wrote this piece himself, 251 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: the guy we just got id He had to write 252 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: his own piece in California Globe published it as the 253 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: first we saw of this we have one guy or 254 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: anything about this bill. I saw the headline last night, 255 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, one. They did it. We 256 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: knew this was going to happen. They want murderers out too, 257 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: and here's their first step. So if Michael Rushford doesn't exist, 258 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: we don't even know about it. You don't know about it. 259 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: But this is this is an earthquake. Here I mentioned 260 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: former NFL player Kerman Alexander. This probably goes back Johnny, 261 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: I think fifteen years on the show. He came on 262 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: several times he wanted the murderer of his family members 263 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: executed as Tikwon Cox, and that didn't happen, and of 264 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: course we wiped out the death penalty. But now, like 265 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: the worst nightmare, he could be released because he's one 266 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: of those that committed his crime before that nineteen ninety date. 267 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: Probably goes back having him on at least in two 268 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: thousand and four because when he was on death row, 269 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Tiquon Cox stabbed another condemned inmate and along with three 270 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: other murderers, cut a hole in the San Quentin fence 271 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: and nearly escaped. And what do you see who that 272 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: inmate was? No? Who? Well, Tuki Williams oh geez, yeah, 273 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: who was executed? Yeah, it says here Tiquon Cox stabbed 274 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: Stanley Tuki Williams in nineteen eighty eight while on death row. 275 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: It's depicted in a movie, of course, the two thousand 276 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: and four TV movie Redemption the stand Tuki Williams story, 277 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: because remember there was a movement to spare Oh yes, 278 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: they tried to. I think it was convenience store workers 279 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: owners to death. He killed them, and there was a 280 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: movement to turn him into some kind of patron saint 281 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: of peace. In fact, didn't somebody, some nutjob nominate him 282 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: for a oh yes, the prize? Right? Oh my god, 283 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: what a proper again, that's free social media. They were 284 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: trying to pull pull that off, right, So this is 285 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: the stuff we watched for in Sacramento that you you 286 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: know what. You don't want this, Your friends don't want this, 287 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,119 Speaker 1: your family members don't want this. You've got to contact 288 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: these these the state senators here, I mean most of 289 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: them are from northern California. Josh Becker, Nancy Skinner, Scott Weener, 290 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: that human infection from San Francisco, that that that parasite, uh, CORYN. 291 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Jackson from Riverside. I don't know who votes these people 292 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: into office and why? Aequila Weber in San Diego and 293 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: Dave Cortez from Santa Clara. Now these used to be outliers, 294 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: but there's lot more of them than the more ten 295 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: years ago. The type of politicians as you can see 296 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: the La City councils being taken over by Democrat socialists 297 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: who believe in the same thing. If you didn't hear 298 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: it next hour, well you can get John and Ken 299 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: on demand to hear the podcast. But we talked about 300 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: they have a bill La City Council voted for to 301 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: crack down on catalytic converter theft, and some of the 302 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: objectors in the city council said no because if anybody 303 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: gets jail time, it ruins their life. We can't go 304 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: in that direction. These the same thing we're seeing in sacraments. 305 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: Some of these races are low turnout races, and the 306 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: woke progressives have figured out again it's patient incremental insurgency. 307 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: They have identified elections where hardly anyone pays attention or 308 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't show up to vote, and certainly La City 309 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: Council races. There's a lot of districts where there are 310 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: very few real voters, and you can with organization activism 311 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: on online ad message sneak a Democratic Socialist Communist in 312 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: and they've done that, all right, We got more coming up. 313 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: John and Ken kf I A I'm six forty. 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We invite you 323 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: to leave a message using the iHeartRadio app. You can 324 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 1: do that by looking for the microphone icon. People do 325 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: that more and more every week. You can call the 326 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: tell free number one eighty seven seven Moist eighty six 327 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: one eight seven seven six six four seven eight eighty six. 328 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: As we're about to do this next story, I went 329 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: and did something that I've never done before. Well I 330 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't say never done it before, stupid, not that I 331 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: looked at the John and Ken Twitter feed and the 332 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: reason I did that is because and we have it. 333 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, John, we have 334 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: a blue check mark. It's there, Okay. That certify something, right, 335 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: That verifies our identity. That Twitter has verified that we 336 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: are who we say we are, so right, they didn't 337 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: come to my house and ask him that that that 338 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: I verified you. I heard some story this morning about 339 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: the blue check mark and people all worked up over 340 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: it them. Well, they're charging for it now, Oh, I 341 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: see right, and if you don't pay, it's not a 342 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: fake Twitter. That's that's right. So we're not bots? Is 343 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: that what it means? We're not bots, and we're not impersonators. 344 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: We're not pretending to be John and Ken, at least 345 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: not on Twitter. So somebody at iHeart paid for our 346 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: blue check mark. Huh yes, shockingly, that's that's nice. I 347 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: don't know if that'll make the next budget cycle. But 348 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: it says legendary talk host John Coe Belt and Ken 349 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: Shampoo fighting for justice. All right, Yeah, that's what it 350 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: says underneath our picture. All right. Weekdays Live Podcast twenty 351 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: four seven. Is that what we're doing. We're fighting for justice. 352 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: I think you guys are still a legacy checkmark because 353 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: I because you can click it and it says it 354 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: is subscribed to Twitter Blue or is a legacy verified account. 355 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Legacy it's been around a long time. Well, 356 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: legacy means you had a blue checkmark before Elon bought 357 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: it and created the whole buying a blue check mark. 358 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it says join September two thousand and nine. Right, 359 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: we get any prizes for that or anything? No yours 360 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: is actually going to be going away on four twenty. 361 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: If you don't pay for Twitter Blue, and I don't, 362 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't believe anybody here is paying for that. Director 363 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: comes through again. I love Twitter. I will never pay 364 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: for Twitter. I think it's a joke that people are 365 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: paying for blue check marks. Now. The whole point was 366 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: to have a blue checkmark to basically verify who you are, 367 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: and they were mainly for celebrities, people of prominence and 368 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: all of that. Now, any Joe Schmo off the Street 369 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: Kin buy blue check mark for I believe it's eight 370 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: ninety nine or eleven ninety nine a month, and they 371 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: are now verified on Twitter, right, and doesn't mean anybody 372 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: really really verifies them? Is that? What you're saying exactly 373 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: they're just being verified with the payment. Oh, I will, 374 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: I will never ever pay for Twitter. I've been on 375 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: Twitter since twenty two thousand and nine. I will, I 376 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: will never pay for it. Hit that it is. It's 377 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: it's a joke. Yeah, that is a joke that, well, 378 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: you're gonna be paid for pay you're paying for nothing. Yes, 379 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: you're not even getting verified. It's just to give you 380 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: a fake blue chair. Look at that. It faked me out. 381 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: I thought there was something that they did, you know, 382 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: special to give you that boar. They just well used 383 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: to you applied for it and then they and it 384 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: was Oh, I thought somebody deep in a basement did 385 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: a huge background check and did all this work to 386 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: make sure that you are who you say they used 387 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: to till Elon fired him. Oh well he didn't let 388 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: go a lot of people. Yeah, eighty percent of the 389 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: workforce the way you're saying, he let go of people. 390 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: But then he charges you for the blue check mark, 391 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: which he doesn't have the people to verify the accounts. 392 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: Really good, yes, correct, you had the business model? Very good? Well, 393 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is that down with an interview with the BBC. 394 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 1: We have a segment of it that's making the news. 395 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: This is good stuff because the BBC reporter, I mean, 396 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: they talked about a lot of different things, but we 397 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: got a clip here of what is it a minute 398 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: and a half or something like that. Well, DBC reporter 399 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: had claimed that ever since Musk took over, there's more 400 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: hate good twitch right. So Musk challenged him and said, 401 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: give me one example. But we have the audience, right, 402 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: and they went on this merrygo round. So this is 403 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: a compilation of their conversation. And the guy's name is 404 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: James Clayton. Yes he's a Wiener. I think it was 405 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: around just under eight thousand and we're about fifteen hundred 406 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: right now. Okay, And it hasn't been hard letting that 407 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: many people go. Yeah, as the layoffs painful, the companies 408 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: are gonna go bankrupt or if we do not cut 409 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: costs immediately. Um, this is not a caring, uncaring situation. 410 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: It's like if whole ship sinks, so nobody's got a job. 411 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: It hasn't been some sort of party. Um. So it's 412 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: been really quite a stressful situation. So it's been quite painful. 413 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: But I think I think that it should have been done. 414 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: I think that were there many mistakes made along the way. 415 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: Of course, you know, um and uh, but you know 416 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: all's well that ends well. I know the BBC, for example, 417 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: is not thrilled about being labeled state affiliated media. I 418 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: mean I go to simply to have, you know, to 419 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: be as truthful and accurate as possible. We're adjusting the 420 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: labeled to be publicly funded, which I think is perhaps 421 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: not too objectionable. Have I shot myself on the foot 422 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: with tweets multiple times? Yes? I think I should not 423 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: tweet after or three am. If you're gonna tweet something 424 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: that maybe it's a controversial, uh, save it as a 425 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: draft and look at the next day. And so he 426 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: still want to tweet it. I sometimes sleep in the office. 427 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: There's a library that nobody goes to on the seventh floor, 428 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: and there's a couch there and I sleep there sometimes. Oh, 429 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't have the Yeah, I wanted to part, But 430 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: there's our technical director. I was a part about the 431 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: hate speech. I didn't know about the hate speech. Well, 432 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: but where's my producer Ray? All right, we'll have to 433 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: read it. John, which part do you want to play? No? 434 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: Why didn't you just just find it? Clayton asked, I'll 435 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: find it. Clayton asked two minutes about how there is 436 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: still too much hate speech on Twitter, and I said, 437 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: what hate speech are you're talking about? Do you? He said, 438 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: do you see a rise in hate speech? Just a 439 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: personal anecdote. I don't, And then he asked to Clayton 440 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: to provide proof of this hates repeatedly, many many times, right, 441 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: and and Musk wouldn't let him off the hook because 442 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: he made this bald claim that there's all this hate 443 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: speech run amuck and he won't even go on the 444 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: Twitter site anymore because it bothers him so much. And 445 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Clayton said there's something called the four you feature that 446 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't go on anymore because I don't particularly like it. Yeah, 447 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: so that's that's. They just just went, I'm only asking 448 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: you for one example. You can't give a single one. 449 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: And I say, sir, that you don't know what you're 450 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: talking about. We have a big moment. We don't like 451 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: or hateful. What do you mean to subscribe a hateful thing? Yeah? 452 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just content that will solicit a 453 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: reaction to something that may include something that is slightly 454 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: racist or slightly sexist, those kinds of slightly, so you 455 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: think if something is slightly sexist it should be bad. 456 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything. I'm curious. I'm trying to say 457 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: what you mean by hateful content, and I'm asking for 458 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: specific examples. Um, and if and you just said that 459 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: if something is slightly sexist, that's hateful content, does that 460 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: mean that it should be bad? When you've asked me, 461 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: You've asked me whether my feed, whether it's got less 462 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: or more, I'd say it's got slightly more. That's what 463 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm asking for examples. Can you name one example? I 464 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: honestly don't. Honestly, I can't name a single example. I'll 465 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: tell you why, because I don't actually use that for 466 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: you feed anymore, because I just don't particularly like it. 467 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: A lot of people, a lot of people are quite similar. 468 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: I only you said you've seen more hateful content, but 469 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: you can't name a single example, not even one. I'm 470 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: not sure I used that feed for the last three 471 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: or four weeks. And then how did you see the 472 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: content content? Because I've been I've been using it. I've 473 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: been using Twisters since you've taken over, for the last 474 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: six months. Okay, so then you must have at some 475 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: point seen that you've pour you hateful content and I'm 476 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: asking for one example, right, and you can't give us 477 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: some more. And I'm saying, then, I say, so that 478 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about, really, yes, because 479 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: you can't be a single example of content, not even 480 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: one tweet. And yet you claimed that the Hipple content 481 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: was high. Well that's a fuse. No, what I could 482 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: just wied what, No, No, what I claim was there 483 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: are many organizations that say that that kind of information 484 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: is on the rise now, whether whether it has I 485 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: mean right literally, someone like the Strategic Dialogue Institute in 486 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: the in the UK, they will say that. So look, 487 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: as people will say all sorts of nonsense, I'm literally 488 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: asking for a single example and you can't name one, right, 489 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: And as as I already said, I don't use that feed, 490 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: but let's how did you know that? I don't think 491 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: this is getting And you literally said you experienced more 492 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: content and then couldn't name a single example, right, And 493 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: as I said, that's absurd, I haven't I haven't actually 494 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: looked at that feed up. Then how would you know content? 495 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Because I'm saying that's what I saw a few weeks ago. 496 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: I can't give you an exact example. Let's move on. 497 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: We have a certain let's move on. It says that 498 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: people have reported that's what I saw, but I saw 499 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: none of it myself that I can present to you now. 500 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: Musk also said he's cut eighty percent of Twitter staff. Yeah, 501 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 1: does the thing still work? Well? I mean I use 502 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: it every day. Yeah, it gitches not no, not in 503 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. There were a few when he 504 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: was really laying off a bunch of people and the AI, 505 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: not the AI, but the algorithm. And so what did 506 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: the eighty percent do? That's a very good question, John. Wow. 507 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: But I did have a tweet flag last night. I 508 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: was getting into an argument with someone over sports. Obviously, 509 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: it was about the Laker game in foul discrepancy, and 510 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: someone said that some conspiracy theorists would say that the 511 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: game was pushed to the Laker's favor by the refs. 512 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: And my response was, some conspiracy theorists are idiots, and 513 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: I use the word idiot, and oh that's hateful. I know, right, 514 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: And literally before I tweeted it, I got a graphic 515 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: that said most tweeters don't post replies like this. We're 516 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: asking tweeters to review replies potentially harmful with potentially harmful 517 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: or offensive language that I want to take another look 518 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: before tweeting. I said, no, oh, so I didn't stop 519 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: you from tweeting. It gave me the option to period. Yeah, 520 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: I like, wow, all right, we got more coming up. 521 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken kf I am six forty. We're live everywhere 522 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: the Irm radio. I don't think I could go ten 523 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: seconds without calling somebody an idiot. You're listening to John 524 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: and Ken on demand from k IF I am sixty. Yeah. 525 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: Eric sent me a copy of the little tweet message 526 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: that we're asking tweeters to review replies with potentially harmful 527 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: or offensive language, want to take another look before tweeting. 528 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: He wrote, You're you're an idiot if you're comparing this 529 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: sit to your's team to last year's team. Everybody's a nag, 530 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: aren't they? Isn't everyone a nag now? But that's how 531 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: they police hate speech. And you're getting nagged by a bot. 532 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: You're getting nagged by by an algorithm. So the bot 533 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: picked up the word idiot and sent out that message. Yeah, 534 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: it's like, imagine what they do to this show. I mean, 535 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: it'd be little warnings popping up every John cut belt. 536 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: You want to reconsider that. You just called him a hack. 537 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: That's right. No, if you put a transcript of our 538 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: show on Twitter, yeah, there'd be red flags flying all 539 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: over the place. Yeah, even some of your more creative words. 540 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: So like, what do you sometimes call people a buffoon? 541 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: Not a buffoon, but you can pumpfoon, a pomp foon. 542 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: That's that's right, pompous buffoo. Well, speaking of a pompous 543 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: before Oh, I just read, by the way, Elon Musk 544 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: is offering one of the Twitter buildings to how's the 545 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: homeless in San Francisco? Isn't that nice? He's got two 546 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: buildings and one of them is pretty much empty because 547 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: he fired eighty per out of the people he is 548 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't come to work anyway. 549 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: He's entertaining, I mean he has I always forget he 550 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: was born in South Africa. There's a slight accent when 551 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: he talks, and it's kind of tough to follow. But 552 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: all right, we got a lot to do in the 553 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: three o'clock hour, find out where the latest complaints are 554 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: coming from. That RV people have taken over the streets 555 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: and the sidewalks. We'll talk about that story and more 556 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: right now. Though John speaking of a pompfoon of sorts, 557 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: well he never exactly goes away. I'm not talking about 558 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: the governor before Newsom, Jerry Brown. I'm talking about the 559 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: governor before that. Anybody remember who that was, Oh Schwarzenegger. 560 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger is doing something John could do in his own 561 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: West Side neighborhood. He's filling potholes. Here's part of the 562 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: story from ABC seven. Well, he went from bodybuilder to 563 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: terminator to governor, and now Arnold Schwartzenegger has a new 564 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: role of pothole fixer, but his own self repair job 565 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: may have to be fixed again. We'll explain. You're welcome. 566 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 1: This is Crazy Schwarzenegger along with his name. As we're 567 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: fed up driving by a big pothole in Mandeville Canyon. 568 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: He says it's been messing up cars and bicycles for weeks. 569 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: So the actor took the matter into his own hands, 570 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: patching up the road. A public health workers say that 571 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: it's not really a pothole, but a service trench that 572 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: needs to be repaired by It's a concrete street, not 573 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: an aw spalt one sort road. Patch really won't work 574 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: for a guy. Somebody will fix it eventually. Well, why 575 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,239 Speaker 1: don't they fix the Yeah, it's a utility hole, they 576 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: say it chility hold and so cow gas of fixing. 577 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: That sounds dangerous, right, What if do you get some 578 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: sort of a leak or a break? Why do they 579 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: have cement streets. There's a cement street around the corner 580 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: from me that it is in complete disrepair since the day. 581 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: We have a lot of cement streets near me too 582 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: that are a mess, and they're terrible. And I don't 583 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: if you remember, I went to Dennis Zigne, who's to 584 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: try to get this. It wasn't his district, but it was, 585 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, because it was Bonnet, right, So I couldn't 586 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: go to Bonnet. So I went to Dennis zign It said, 587 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: can you tell me why they won't fix this street? 588 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: There's so many cracks, there's so many potholes, there are 589 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: weeds and grass growing up in the middle of the road. 590 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's because it's from nineteen twenty four. 591 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: And I was given this absurd explanation that in nineteen 592 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: twenty four they laid down some kind of special Vermont 593 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: cement mix that made the street historic nineteen nineteen twenty four. Yeah, wow, 594 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure the street really goes back that far. 595 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if they were just feeding me a 596 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: load up of course crap or not, because I know 597 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: our neighborhood was built in nineteen forties. But they said 598 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty four, and I said, well, I'll just pave 599 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 1: it over. It's like, well, no, we can't do that. Well, 600 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: why can't you do that? Well, they don't make that 601 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: Vermont special mix anymore. Well, so you're which this is 602 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: the way it's going to be forever. And why does 603 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: it have to be a cement road? Like why does 604 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger's road have to be a cement road? Just pave 605 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: it over with asphalt. That works really well. An asphalt 606 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: is softer. I like running on asphalts sometimes I do 607 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: that rather than run on the hard sidewalk. Yeah, the 608 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: cement breaks into pieces. Yeah, he said he used quick crete. 609 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: I guess that's some sort of I can get it 610 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: home depot. It's some sort of a concrete kind of mixture. 611 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know. Maybe I'll use it done 612 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: on my block too. It's kind of funny though, because 613 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: he tweeted out, oh what does he has a blue 614 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: check mark? Okay Arnold today, after the whole neighborhoods been 615 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: upset about this giant pothole has been screwing up cars 616 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: and bicycles for veeks. I ent doubt that my demand 617 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: fixed it. I always say, let's not complain, let's do 618 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: something about it. Here you go, and that report says 619 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: they may have to redo it, so well, at least 620 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,479 Speaker 1: they're going to redo it. I know. God. Yeah, it's 621 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: just everything is a struggle. Everything's a fist fight now. Well, 622 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: talking about basic government services, of course, fill the effing hole, 623 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: you whole. They don't have any money anymore. They're spending 624 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: it all trying to find homeless housing. Yeah, they don't 625 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: have any money. So the city of la is swamp 626 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: every Yeah. I don't know what disgusting corruption they're They're 627 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: so caught up in somebody issues that actually don't concern 628 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: the average person. They're worried about climate chains, they're worried 629 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: about the world. It's just it's just woke. Course crap 630 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: is all everybody talks about. The course crap. I like that. Yeah, 631 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: they don't want they want to do the hard work 632 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: and getting a shovel and filling a hole. They want 633 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: to tell me about their diversity and equity problemsies. I 634 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: don't care. I don't want to hear those words anymore. 635 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: I had no interest in any of those issues. None. Zero. 636 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: I hear it, I turn it off. Oh before I forget, 637 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: because we're just talking about Twitter. NPR is quit Twitter. 638 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: They were no longer post fresh content to its fifty 639 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: two official Twitter feeds because they didn't like being labeled 640 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: a state affiliated media. So that's their protest. They're out. Okay. 641 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: They become the first major news organization to go silent 642 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: on the social media platform. Can you feel the earth? 643 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: It's it's rotation slowing down. This could cause many people 644 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: a quick Twitter if they don't have their NPR feed. Yeah, 645 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: all right, we got more covered up. John and Ken 646 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: KF I am six forty. We're live everywhere in the 647 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. You can get a lot of diversity and 648 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: equity news on that NPR feed. Debra Mark live in 649 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: the twenty four hour KFI newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 650 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: to the John and Ken Show. 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