1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans, This one's 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the Truth lives here twelve Apostles Apostles. I'm George Rice Stir, 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: He's Ralph Amason, and this is the Pack twelve Apostles. 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: This week we got a lot of big time action 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: in the Pack twelve. We had upsets and and controversy 7 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: and everything else. Um So, Ralph, after a strong start 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: to the season, how would you great this week for 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve Week six? Well, if we're still pretending 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: that U, C, l A and USC are part of 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve, if there had never been any real 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: amment talk at all, that I think this would be 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: a pretty damn good week. But instead we're looking at 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: like the oh hey, we're losing the two bass teams 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: in the conference. It's not like we're the Big twelve, 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: looking at Texas being middling in Oklahoma getting blown out 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: and probably not even being a favorite against Kansas this weekend, 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: like the Big twelve is has already moved on. Well, 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: they're already trying to determine the hierarchy of what their 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: conference is going to be after Texas and Oklahoma bounced 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: and uh, and we're sitting here like, uh oh once 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: the t l A schools go, what are we? And 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: I know that that that it's just it's a bummer 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: because you can't enjoy U c l A doing what 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: they did to Utah because you're like, man, but also 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: they're leaving yep, exactly like people. I've been on people's 27 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: shows and they've been like, man, how's the Pack twelve doing. 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, there's no back to pack anymore. It is. 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: It is tired, I mean, and how can you say 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: back to back and care anything about what U c 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: l A and USC are doing? Not even a little bit. Uh, 32 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: It's better, sweet man. I feel like the four other 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: guys and in sync watching justin timber Lake released with 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: Jay Z. Oh my, so dude, I'm sitting here and 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: we actually got news that well from Greg Flugar, who 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: has been all over the conference realignment broke USC to 37 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: the that they were talking to the Big ten. He 38 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: now says that the hot window is now closed and 39 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: that expansion is on pause for right now. Do you 40 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: believe that to be true? Yeah? I do. I know 41 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: you consider him to be credible I've watched some of 42 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: the videos that you have sent um uh that he's 43 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: done to me. I love how like low tech they 44 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: are still I don't care. You could be talking college 45 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: football into a paint can out in the desert and 46 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna listen. Like, but he seems to have 47 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: a pretty firm grasp on what's going on, obviously as 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: the the track record, But it was like this week, 49 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: we had conflicting reports that Oregon and Washington were about 50 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: to bounce now that the exclusive TV negotiating window was opened, 51 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: and then he came in and he shut that down. 52 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: I think that, I think, I think everybody it's in 53 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: everybody's best interest to seek the best possible short term 54 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: deal for for the Pack twelve products UM, so that 55 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: you can we can find out if three or four 56 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: years from now the Pack twelve is still viable and 57 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: worthy of keeping everybody in the fold. I also think 58 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: it gives the Pack twelve the ability to reach out 59 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: to other schools to make sure that we stay at 60 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: twelve and UH and also you know, give them what 61 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: to expect when they come in, because it's probably gonna 62 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: be at a discounted um at a discount of rate, 63 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: And my guess is we're gonna be raiding Mount West team. 64 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know. The whole thing is very very 65 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: interesting to me. Um. I was thinking this week, why 66 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: stop at twelve? I was, I was really considering, like, 67 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: why if you are going to get everybody into a 68 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: discount of rate on a short contract, what's the point 69 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: of going to tool? Like why not? Why not go above? 70 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: And why not do what the Big ten does for 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: the Big twelve does and not have the number mean 72 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: anything and just bring in the California schools and maybe 73 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: un LV or something. So what San Diego State and 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: who else? Fresno, San Jose, un LV mm hmm, oh god. 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: They feel so beneath us. They feel so beneath us, um. 76 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: And I mean as an Oregon guy this year, a 77 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: couple of years, you couldn't say that about right, um, 78 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: So I do as an Oregon fan. If this news 79 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: is true, I hope it's not true because I want 80 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: us in the Big ten. I mean, I just I 81 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: just just do for financial reasons, for recruiting, reasons for 82 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: getting a national championship reasons. I think that you're better 83 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: off there. Um. I think that USC is gonna find 84 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: a tough time in the Big twelve adapting to now. 85 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Granted they have to play in weather some when you 86 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: had to pull him independent on the time of year, 87 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Oregon State, depending on the year, you know, even Seattle. 88 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: But listen, it ain't like that heading to Michigan, Michigan State, 89 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: Ohio in in in November and December. Bro, it's be 90 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: colder than the witches titties out there. Um Now, now 91 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting because I think that we're gonna find 92 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: more out in short order. So man, but there's still 93 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: so much influx. So let's get to the games from 94 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: last week. Um So, first game up U c l 95 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: A Utah U c l A forty two, Utah thirty two. 96 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: I thought U c l A was going to have 97 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: good shot to win this game. But Dorian Thompson Robinson. 98 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: There is no player that gets hotter than Dorrian Thompson Robinson. 99 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, not Bryce Young, not c J. Stroud. When 100 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: this dude, when he gets hot, he's cooking with Crisco. 101 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: Bro cooking with absolute absolutely Crisco. Like there's nothing you 102 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: can do to stop him. He threw for two yards 103 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: and four touchdowns, had a couple of rushes that were 104 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: very important to keep drives going. Zach charbon At went 105 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: for buck and a touchdown, like you taught, I think 106 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: that we saw in this game. Utah is good, you 107 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: taw solid on both sides of the ball. There's solid 108 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: on defense, solid on offense. But solid doesn't beat good teams. 109 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: Solid loses forty two to thirty two. Well, you the 110 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: thing with with Utah and U c l A in 111 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: this game is you can make a pretty strong argument 112 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: that up until eleven minutes left in the game, not 113 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: only was it still a game, but you talk probably 114 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: should have had the lead. UM that first that first 115 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: drive of the game, like turning the ball over, uh 116 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: and then turning the ball over multiple times, UM coming 117 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: out with you know, and that they had held I 118 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: think U c l A to a missed field goal. 119 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: It was it was enough of a game that with 120 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: about I think it was about eleven forty left in 121 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, then in you but U c l 122 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: A never slowed down, never made more than one or 123 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: two mistakes. The offensive line, which is made up of 124 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: four seniors, three red shirt seniors and a and A 125 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: and a red shirt freshman, like they the missdirection stuff 126 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: they were doing where everybody would pull left and then 127 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: they toss right and say like all right, utah's the 128 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: lineback because let's see how good you are tackling and 129 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Zach Sharmon they just exploited them all day long. I 130 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: thought the offensive line was so dominant. And the thing 131 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: you bring up about Dorian Thompson Robin said about when 132 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: he gets hot, there's just a few times in sports. 133 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: But like you watched Ken Griff Jr. Walk up to 134 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: the eight and he had like the swagger in his Yes, 135 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: you knew what was gonna happen. Barry Bonds, Yeah, yeah, 136 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: same with the same, same with Barry Bonds, Like you 137 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: have uh, you know, a runner like there's no uh, 138 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: Like the bases are loaded and it's like, all right, 139 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: are we gonna are we gonna walk him in? Are 140 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: we actually gonna have to be or are we gonna 141 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: give up one run of four runs? Yeah? And when 142 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: things are going well for U. C. L A. You 143 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: see him walk up under center and it's just the 144 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: level of confidence and cool and collection. I'm I'm such 145 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: a big fan of his because it's um he he 146 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: grew and people get locked into that narrative of whoever 147 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: you are early in your college football career where he's 148 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: trying to do No, he's the growth of Like his 149 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: growth and and maturation is something that I talked about 150 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: when he said he was coming back. I was like, 151 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm all in. I was like, this dude is going 152 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: to raise his stock as an NFL player big of this. 153 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: And when you look at this game comparison, four hundred 154 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: and seventy nine yards to five eleven h one nine 155 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: rush into two twelve, I mean the average per rush 156 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: four point five five point six. Uh, I mean the 157 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: numbers were so like so close on both sides that 158 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: it's clear that the turnovers, the two turnovers by Utah 159 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: were the difference in the game where U c l 160 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: A only had one because there were four or four 161 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: in the red zone they were four. You have tad 162 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: On Thomas on your team. It's not just the turnovers, 163 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: it was the turnover on downs. You have tab On 164 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Thomas on your team on a fourth and one and 165 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: you run a quarterback sneak with Cam Rising and he 166 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: doesn't get it. Yep. Are you surprised that U c 167 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: l A. After like, after the way their seasons started 168 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: because they started slow against Bowling Green. They almost lost 169 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: the South Alabama like that. This has turned into the 170 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: knocking the doors off of Washington, which which I think 171 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: that we've seen that Washington's defense is terrible. But knocking 172 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: the doors off of them and then turning around and 173 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: beating Utah, this is what people were expecting out of 174 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: chip Kelly. And if you notice people are actually in 175 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: the stands at the pack twelve, I'm sorry at um 176 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: at the Rose Bowl, now, yeah, I mean it's hard 177 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: to feel that thing. So it wasn't you know that 178 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: deep in the deep in the first quarter, you still 179 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: had one end zone that was completely empty. But it 180 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: was well, that's been because people were trying to get 181 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: into the game, because they because they forgot. Dude. Then 182 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: when I went to the South Alabama, Dude, when I 183 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: went to South Alabama, from the time I parked to 184 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: the time I walked in, I mean granted I parked 185 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: extremely close, like I could have thrown a rock and 186 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: hit the stadium, but but still that would have normally 187 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: been at least a twenty minute walk in. It took 188 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: me five minutes to We'll go through the metal detector 189 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: and get to the tunnel five minutes and what with 190 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: the amount of people there the for the Utah game 191 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: that was like a forty five minute or an hour. Yeah. Um, 192 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that people continue to come out and see 193 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: a great product because again, when you talk about the 194 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: offensive line and and DTR that's you know, there are 195 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: so many upper classmen on this team that it's not 196 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 1: it's not going to be that way. It's gonna be 197 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: um not not necessarily a rebuild or reload. We don't 198 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: know what it's gonna look like with Ethan Garber's or 199 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: if they bring somebody else in. It's gonna be interesting. Though. 200 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: Right now, they've they've matured, uh together, and they understand 201 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: this system and the way that Chip Kelly kind of 202 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: game plans for each individual opponent. You're not gonna put 203 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: as much energy into this how the conference stuff as 204 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: you do the inconference stuff. So it's no surprise to 205 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: me that they look better in conference than they did 206 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: in some of those out of conference games. Um, they're good, man, 207 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: They're they're good. I underestimated them. I had to bump 208 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: them in the power rankings pretty drastically. And I will 209 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: also say that like this, this offensive line to me 210 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: is the key to the conference. If they stay, if 211 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: they stay healthy, I think they have a legitimate shot 212 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: to win it all playoff. Will they went out. I 213 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: don't believe that that's a thing, like until I see it, 214 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: that's not really a thing that happens here. Um. However, however, 215 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: I think this is something Utah will learn from. We 216 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: have to understand. Utah is notoriously piss poor in so 217 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: count notoriously pissport and SoCal. Like the fact that they 218 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: got the game against USC last year was the extreme outlier. 219 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: So I think if you put these teams on a 220 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: neutral fielder, you put them in Salt Lake. Again, what's 221 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: the game USC in Salt like this week? Buddy, that's 222 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: gonna be tough. We're gonna find it. And shout out 223 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: to Clark Phillips for the stat pad pick six. Yeah, 224 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: that's pretty funny. Um. Washington Huskies thirty eight, Arizona State 225 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: Sun Devils fort. When I was watching this game, I 226 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: was like, wait, what, excuse me? Excuse me? Like I 227 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: knew that Washington's defense wasn't what we thought it was. 228 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: But then also that's super surprising considering what they did 229 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: to Michigan State. But then you're like, holy, like bro, 230 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: Michigan State stinks right now that that is a terrible, 231 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: terrible football team at this point in time. But you 232 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: had Michael pinnockx Jr. Who's lightening it up three and 233 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: eleven yards. He didn't throw it for a touchdown in 234 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: this game, surprisingly um one interception and um and Trenton 235 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: board Game, who has been much maligned, came in for 236 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: Emery Jones through three touchdowns a d eighty two yards. 237 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean, are you surprised at how this game went 238 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position? Yes? And no. I mean you're 239 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: talking about Trent board Gay being much it is my guy, 240 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: but we're like we're talking about much Maligne like by 241 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: her Edwards, like not not by anybody on the outside 242 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: because nobody knows anything about him. Which was he a 243 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: walk on? He was a walk on? Yeah he is. 244 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: So here's his whole back story. Had we had him 245 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: on for an hour last night on this a s 246 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: U Twitter spaces that I co host last night to 247 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: just talk about his backstory. He is the seven on 248 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: seven god, Like, that's who he is. They started a 249 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: seven on seven organization in Tucson called Tucson Turf and 250 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: him and his friends dominated every elite player in the country, 251 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: and now that organization is upwards of two kids across 252 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: all age levels. He and his father started. He played 253 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: dB and quarterback in seven on seven tournaments in like 254 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: ten different states across America over the course of his 255 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: high school career. So not only was he in quick 256 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: passing situations. And you know that seven on seven can 257 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: be highly beneficial depending on the attitude you take toward it. UM, 258 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: but the best, the best thing for any quarterback is 259 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: to get reps. He has thousands more reps than any 260 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: other quarterback because of the dedication to seven on seven 261 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: in tight windows spaces. He also played defensive back against 262 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: some of the best quarterbacks in the country. UM. He 263 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: took his initial team to like the championship game of 264 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: the first tournament, and he had like a like a 265 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: fourth grader on the roster with him. He's he So 266 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: he's really well known in certain circles, but in the 267 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: college football circles because he didn't get those offers. Even 268 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: though he set five a passing records in the state 269 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: of Arizona. UM he's five eleven, one seventy and so 270 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't. He he chose to walk on. 271 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: At Arizona State. He's been in the running to be 272 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: the number two quarterback despite the fact that they have 273 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: seven on scholarship for like the last three years. He 274 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: probably could have gone into this season as a starter. 275 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: He was endorsed by some of his teammates when um 276 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Daniels left for l s U. However, um her 277 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: Edwards publicly said that the quarterback of the future might 278 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: not be on the roster yet, and he went shopping 279 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: for Emery Jones and they brought him in. Um Trent 280 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: was Trenton was recovering from injury and and didn't have 281 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: the best spring, but there wasn't really a separation between 282 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: the two. So what her Edwards said was we need 283 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: a guy who can give us results when everything breaks down, 284 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: and for him, that was Emery Jones. And we've seen 285 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: what Emery Jones brings to the table over over his 286 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: six games. Starter. Uh Trent bore Gay is somebody who 287 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: knows the offense back and forth. He's a crazy football mind. 288 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: Whatever physical limitations you might think are there, he's going 289 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: to get the ball where it needs to go. So 290 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: for him to come in. It wasn't nothing that happened 291 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: was a surprise. That's who he is. I think it 292 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: was a surprise to a lot of people that your 293 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: backup can move the offense that efficiently after four straight 294 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: years of like one read and run. Yeah, so uh 295 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: not a surprise. At the same time, thirty five offensive 296 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: points in two and a half quarters when you struggled 297 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: offensively that much, was a surprise. It was much of 298 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: a surprise to see Jordan Clark getting nine tackles on 299 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: a pick six when he's kind of been injured and 300 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: he's on the similar side. Um, I don't think I'm 301 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: not Washington's defense is obviously bad. I think it's a 302 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: scheme issue, not a talent issue, and their offense is 303 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: obviously good. They can't play in Tempee. It's been twenty 304 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: one years since they won down there. I still consider 305 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: Washington to be the better team overall. I think in Seattle, 306 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: I think it would go the other way. It's just 307 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting to see what a su does 308 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: from here. Because Emery Jones has a concussion. He's coming 309 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: back from a concussion. They got a buy a week 310 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: and then they have Stanford what would you do? You 311 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: saw Trent play, you saw the way the the offense move, 312 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: You've seen five weeks of Emery. I know what I 313 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: would do, but I'm not objective, so I'm from an outside. 314 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it would depend on practice for me 315 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: at that point, Like like, I don't know if this 316 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: was a large enough sample size to make a full switch, 317 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: but you did only win one game with Emery Jones 318 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: at quarterback, and this is one of those things. If 319 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: you make that change, it's a it's a full it's 320 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: a full change. Like like you can't be like, oh, 321 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play both, No, you have to make a 322 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: full change if that's what you're gonna do. Full change. 323 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports. So you say depend on practice, Well, 324 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: so that you're not, because how do you subscribe to 325 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: the whole thing of like you don't lose your job too, 326 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: And even though we have a million examples losing their jo, 327 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: that is a That is a lie, Craig, that is 328 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: a lie, dude. Yes, you can lose your job to 329 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: to injury. Now, if I think it would have been 330 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: easier on Arizona State if they had a game this 331 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: weekend and Emery Jones couldn't play, and then Trenton got 332 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: another start. I think that would make it easy. I 333 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: just think it's gonna be hard to make that switch 334 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: off of you know, three quarters of football. Yeah, um, 335 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: and then and then. And it makes you wonder because 336 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: if you leave it up to Pras because it wasn't 337 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: like Emory was bad. He was seven for nine before 338 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: he went out. He was he was, he was moving 339 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: the ball. Would the same thing have happened. I mean, 340 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: it's I think it's pretty night and day. Like I 341 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: think you watched the two quarterbacks, and there are very 342 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: obvious differences in the way the offense moved in the 343 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: way that you know, I think Emery doesn't like to 344 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: turn the ball over, like Jade Daniels didn't like to 345 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: turn the ball over. So there's a couple of times 346 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: where like Dave Brian Thompson an opportunity to catch a 347 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: deep ball even though there were two defenders in the area. 348 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: That's not a thing that I've typically seen from memory. Yeah, 349 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting situation because you have an 350 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: interim coach and Emery Jones was herm Edwards guy, but 351 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: her Medwards is gone. It's like that line from Hamilton's Well, 352 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we signed a treaty, but it's like, oh, yeah, 353 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: we signed a treaty with the king, and his head's 354 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: in a basket. You want to take him out and 355 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: ask it, like he's offended that we broke the treaty. 356 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: He's dead, so Herm Edwards has gone. Shawn Iguano is 357 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: trying to fight for this job. He's gonna have to 358 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: make a very tough decision. But this is what he 359 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: signed up for. It wants the job. You have to 360 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: make these tough choices. Hey, hey, if they if they 361 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: go on to finish like five and seven, boil boy, 362 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: I think that that that that this is Sean shan 363 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: Iguano's job if he can get to five wins. And again, 364 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: I want to reiterate that I think it should be 365 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: Shawn Iguana's job. In I don't think s you should 366 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: be making any decisions until they until they And I'm 367 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: okay with having an interim we we uh what Bud 368 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: Bud Seek was an interim commissioner for like six years 369 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: before he was the actual commissioner. Like, I'm fine with 370 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: having an interim for for eighteen months. If that's what 371 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: makes understand that's tough for recruiting. Though, that's tough for 372 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: recruiting in the portal era, they're already in hell. You 373 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: talked about it. You you you had a rant Matt 374 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: rule this week. You had a rant on Matt rule 375 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: this week where you brought up Arizona State's UH roster issues. 376 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be it's gonna be tough for 377 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: whoever comes in unless they are able to bring in 378 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: twenty guys from the portal who are ready to play 379 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: right away. That's true. UH. Next game up, Washington State 380 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: fourt in USC thirty. Now, watching Washington State play is 381 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: probably one of the more frustrating things that I can 382 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: Like watching this game and watching Washington State, I was like, 383 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated, so frustrated because now they ran the 384 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: ball at ten yards to carry with with Jenkins, he 385 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: only got thirteen carries. Cam Ward when he has to 386 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: be on time, it's good. When when it's like quick 387 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: passing game, when he has to stand back there survey 388 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: the landscape, he's just waiting on an opportunity to make 389 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: a play. And like there were some people that were 390 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: alluding to him in the NFL. I was like, nothing 391 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: about cam Ward is an NFL quarterback at this point 392 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: and at this point in time, not that he can't 393 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: be later, but at this point in time, he's not 394 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. And USC just held on. But I 395 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: want to I do want to interject with a way 396 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: that your former offensive coordinator used Justin Herbert to say, like, 397 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: we sometimes we don't know because someone is being used 398 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: in a way that's not olive to their strengths, right 399 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: and you, but you would figure that a coach that 400 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: has been with with cam Ward at Incarnate Word and 401 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: now at Washington State would understand how to use them. 402 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: This game was infuriating, though please continue. Yes, you you 403 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: had Washington State miss opportunity after opportunity after opportunity, and 404 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: then on USC side, it was frustrating if you're USC 405 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: fit because you're like, why can't we run away from them? 406 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: And this is what I've been trying to tell people 407 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: about USC is that they are not the seventh best 408 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: team in the country. They have major flaws. They just 409 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: haven't running into anybody who can expose the well, actually 410 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: they ran into Oregon State. Oregon State exposed it. The 411 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: problem is Oregon State literally has no quarterback right now. 412 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: They threw four interceptions four and they lost and they 413 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: only scored seventeen points. Think about that, Yeah, four interceptions 414 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: and you only score seventeen points. That means that you 415 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: can be put in a in an absolute headlock. And 416 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: USC has played Rice terrible, Stanford terrible, Fresno State bad 417 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 1: this year, Oregon State no quarterback, Arizona State at they 418 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: just ran out of talent, and in Washington State just 419 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: missed opportunity after opportunity after opportunity. And if you're a 420 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: USC fan, you were build on this, Like if you 421 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: notice how they would come out, it was our offense 422 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be great, is Lincoln Riley. They're not scoring 423 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: as many points as that, Like, they are not uh 424 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: at the point where people thought that they were gonna 425 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: be the number one offense in the back twelve scoring offense. 426 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: They are fifth in the pack twelve. They are averaging game, 427 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: but it's number number one. Look who you've played. And 428 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: also like their fifth in the pack twelve and scoring, 429 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: and they don't have the type of open field playmakers 430 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: that they're gonna need to make this system go. The 431 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: thing I worry about with the pack twelves. Wait, you 432 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: said they don't have enough open How do How don't 433 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: they have playmakers? They got Mario Williams, the the the 434 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: kid from pitt people are Some people are really fast 435 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: possession receivers are They're the guys that take it, take 436 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: things over the top. Not everybody is a guy that 437 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: can get a screen and and make two or three 438 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: people miss for those huge chunk plays of yardage after 439 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: the catch. They got a bunch of guys that will 440 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: bring the ball down if you get it in their vicinity, 441 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: and they'll create space and get open. But I don't 442 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: see USC getting a bunch of yards off of getting 443 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: the ball to a playmaker at the light of scrimmage 444 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: and letting them work. Uh. Arizona State was able to 445 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: slow USC down for the most part by keeping everything 446 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: in front of them. Oregon State was able to do 447 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: it through the same also having length of the defensive backfield. 448 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: You know, the USC is in a position where it's 449 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: testing the outside to see you know, are your defensive 450 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: backs going to come up and make the tackle? And 451 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: so far the answer has been yes, So until they 452 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: get until they get a couple of guys, and and 453 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're devoid of talent. The thing 454 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: that scares me about USC is so many teams have 455 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: let them get away with not being fully meshed as 456 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: a team. Yet that by the end of this season, 457 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: if everybody is tapping into their talent and getting coached up, 458 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: then in USC finds their footing, it could be bad 459 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: for everybody else. So you missed the opportunity to beat 460 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: them when they were actually vulnerable. And Washington State missed 461 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: a huge opportunity because one player on fifteen touches had 462 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: a hundred eighty four yards one player on your team, 463 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: and you weren't forcing the ball to him, you weren't 464 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: running the ball you. It reminds me you have you 465 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: ever been playing Uno and you have like Draw four 466 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: wild card in your hand, but you only got like 467 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: four or five cards left, and you know that that 468 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna play that card and that's gonna turn the 469 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: game around, and and the pile. Something gets put down 470 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: on the pile and it's not a color that you have. 471 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: You could play that wild draw four, or you could 472 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: risk and draw out of the pile and see if 473 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: like you can keep keep that good card in your hand, right, 474 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: That's how I felt like running is working. But they 475 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: were trying to see if they could get cam War going, 476 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: and he was getting sacked over and over and pets 477 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: shirt over and over. There was no reason why they 478 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: couldn't have been running that the slow mesh or the 479 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: draw or or or handing the ball off. There's no 480 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: reason they couldn't have been doing that. And they just 481 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: gave USC so many chances and killed their own drives. 482 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: It was very frustrating to watch them on offense. It 483 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: made me feel like they're fraudulent um. And that was 484 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: the same thing that I came away with. That was 485 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: the same thing that I hime away with. Now. I 486 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: put out a tweet after the games. Well, during the 487 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: games this weekend, I said Travis died, while I said 488 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: Bucky Irving from Oregon the running back greater than Travis die. 489 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: What you said on our show last week too? Yeah, 490 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: And people thought that that and they're like, oh, you're 491 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: a hating no, and I said, there's there's no there's 492 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: no hate because Travis dies a good back, Like, there's 493 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: no denying that. He also, while he was at Oregon 494 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: fumbled too much and he and like he's not as 495 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: elusive as people think he is. And and he's broken 496 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: some tackles at USC, like that's that's what he does. 497 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: But he's lighting the ass, so like there are times 498 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: where he gets tackled by by people and he can't 499 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: fight for those additional yards. And so that means that 500 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: I think that Travis Dive is a really good back. 501 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: But I think Bucky Irving is an NFL back. Yeah. 502 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: I look at Travis that is like a third down 503 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: guy in the NFL if he gets his pass pro right, 504 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: like that's yeah, but it's gonna be hard for him 505 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: to pass pro at that size in the NFL with 506 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: them linebackers running downhill because they're gonna be like I'm 507 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: not going around you, I'm gonna go straight over you. Yeah. Yeah. 508 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 1: And I I understand that he is a very good 509 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: college football player. I always enjoyed him. I fought with 510 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: you on this show for years about him. He at 511 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: one point he was carrying the ducks and and I 512 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: get that he I get that he fumbles. I also 513 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: think that, like it's been so ingrained into football people 514 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: that fumbling is like cheating on your spouse or something 515 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: like that then it happens. Yeah, And sometimes it's a 516 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: ball security issue, and sometimes it's the fact that like 517 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: the the way that people are, Like I look at 518 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: the I'm out here in Charlotte and I watched the 519 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: way the Carolina Panthers playing. There's eight dudes on Christian 520 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: McCaffrey every time he touches the ball, because they all 521 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: know the balls coming in his way. He would not 522 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: be I'm amazed that he holds onto the ball like um. 523 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think that they are getting 524 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: the most out of Travis D right now. He's a 525 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: rental for them at at USC. I understand your tweet, 526 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: and I understand that fans are going to feel that 527 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: way anyway about the players that chose to stick around. 528 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: But but but based upon my my history and what 529 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: you know about me and Travis D, do you think 530 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: that that's hate or do you think that's what I 531 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: objectively think. I think that you have been Here's what 532 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: I'll say. I do think that you've been hating on 533 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: USC all year, and I'm fine with it. That's anyway. 534 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me. However, However, you have had 535 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: legit criticisms of Travis d for years, so it's not 536 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: like you change at all. And when he was doing well, 537 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: you were like, oh, he's improved. Oh, I appreciate him, 538 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: especially when it was like six of the yards were 539 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: going through Travis Dy they could get c J. D 540 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: all go and you're like, oh, if I have to 541 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: like this guy, I'm gonna like this guy. But you've 542 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: never been a Travis Ti guy through and through, and 543 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: so there's nothing about it where I'm like, oh, he's 544 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: just being a USC hater or saying don't let the 545 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: door hit you on the way out. You wouldn't have 546 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: mind him sticking around. But I don't think Oregon's missed 547 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: to be and I don't think you're wrong about that part. Yeah, 548 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: I think Oregan's running back room is better this year 549 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: than it's been since since like Kenyan Barner and Michael 550 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: James were there, which makes it mutually beneficial because I 551 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: don't know if ye correct, I don't know if he's 552 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: getting twenty touches in Eugene this year correct. And people 553 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: are like, well, look look at the stats he's got. 554 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: He's higher than him a rushing He's got five hundred 555 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: and seventy seventy one yards compared to Bucky Irving who 556 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: has four twenty nine. Yeah, but Bucky Irving also literally 557 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: has exactly thirty thirty less carries. So you you give 558 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: a dude who's averaging over seven yards to carry in 559 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: additional thirty carries. Yeah, I'm gonna taken, But I have 560 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: to say time, it would have been fun to see 561 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: Travis d and Kenny dolling Ham's offense because they seem 562 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: to get a lot of players in space and that's 563 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: where he was at his best. Correct, Now, what did 564 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: you think about Caleb Williams, Because this dude is a magician. 565 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: This dude is a magician. And the thing I love 566 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: about him as a player, it's not that he always 567 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: makes these heroic big plays and all of this stuff. No, 568 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: he just manages the game really well, like he's clearly 569 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: got elite talent. But the thing is he doesn't throw 570 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: the ball away to to the other team. He doesn't 571 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: at all. He so he protects the football. He gives 572 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: you a chance to win and that's the most pro 573 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: And he will throw to you in one on one coverage, 574 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: which that's not an emory thing, that's not a Jaden 575 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: Daniels thing like that. You have to give your receivers 576 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: a chance to make a play, and he'll do that. 577 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: Has he been perfect? Is his completion percentage all that great? Now? 578 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: I think completion percentage as long as you're getting chunk 579 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: plays can kind of be uh overrated. I don't. I 580 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of patience for people right now 581 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: who are trying to poke holes in his game. Oh 582 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: you know what it is, but I just don't there 583 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: it seems like there's so many people trying to say 584 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: that he's not. Like I brought up how Dorian Thompson 585 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: Robinson's confidence levels off the charts, and a bunch of 586 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: people were like, I wanted to get into a discussion 587 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: about how he's better than Kayleb Williams. They're two very 588 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: different football players. I'd be happy to have either one 589 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: quarterback in my team. But it's not. It's just not 590 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: the same. It's not the same. Dorian Thompson. Robinson's like 591 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: that learning curve of all of those mistakes that he 592 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: made that doesn't exist in Kayla Williams history. He's either trying. 593 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: He's either trying to figure it out or he's making 594 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: it place. He's not costing the team. USC Dy haven't 595 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: left a bunch of stuff on the table because of 596 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: bad decision making on his part. And I think he's 597 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: just his level of preparedness and how he doesn't get 598 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: shook and his ability to make some plays I don't 599 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: think anybody else in the country can make. I don't 600 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: think it's a conversation about about who is better. I 601 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: think they both work for what correct, what what is 602 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: going on right now? I just that KYLEB. Williams stuff. 603 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: I've seen enough. He is very, very special, and I 604 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: don't see him having like a big drop off or 605 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: making a bunch of mistakes. Have we seen them when 606 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: they're down. We've seen him in close games and he 607 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: wasn't like he wasn't perfect, But that you know, I 608 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: think that we will find out more information about him 609 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: this weekend versus Utah and the and this team. You're 610 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports alright, Oregon fort Arizona, UM Oregon. 611 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: Opportunity for Arizona, huge blown opportunity because they didn't need 612 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: to get blown out in this game. Correct. Correct? It 613 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: started with that fumble and in the when when they 614 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: had the ball in the red zone. I think it 615 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: was all zero zero, like at the seven yard line 616 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: with eleven minutes left in the first and they fumbled, 617 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: fumbled with the ball and the rest was history, buddy, like, 618 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: like that was the ball on a wide receiver end 619 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: around from the inside exchange that was so unnecessary and 620 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: would have gotten blown up. Yes, you know, if that's 621 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: why the exchange went wrong, I think it was just 622 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: I think it was just trying to get way too cute, 623 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: but like that was unnecessary and you might look and 624 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: see like, oh, and then it was twenty one three, 625 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: but that's not even the story. It was seven three 626 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the first quarter and Arizona had 627 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: the ball in Oregon territory. They did not need to 628 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: get blown out. But they spent the whole first half 629 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: playing like they were down twenty eight, trying to get 630 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: back in the game. Well and see, but that's the 631 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: that's the thing that happens when teams play good teams, 632 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: they feel like that they need to press a little bit. 633 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: And then when Oregon started scoring, when it was like 634 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: fourteen read, you're like, whoa, whoa. Then it's twenty one three, 635 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: and and that's where you do not want Jaden Dolora 636 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 1: in that situation because because when because he's a guy 637 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: who's going to and I mean this in a good way, 638 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: he's going to try to will his team back. And 639 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: when he yeah, and when he gets correct and when 640 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: when he gets into that mode, it changes, you know, 641 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: he gets a little more risky, a little more inaccurate, 642 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: balls get in trouble, you incomplete passes, and then you 643 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: don't end up, you know, being able to to get yards. 644 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: And Oregon has done a fantastic job against the O run. 645 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: So they're averaging giving up I think ninety eight yards 646 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: a game, which is the best in the conference. And 647 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: when when they make a team one dimensional, that's when 648 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: they've got you. If they if you are forced to 649 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: if you cannot run the football, then then that creates 650 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: a significant problem. Or like what if you make yourself 651 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: one dimensional for no reason? And Oregon would have won 652 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: this game, they probably would have wanted by two touchdowns 653 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: because I think four quarters tells the truth. But she's 654 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: as stute. But didn't I tell you didn't? Didn't I 655 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: tell you that? That? What was the line in this game? 656 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: I was like, bet, bet, bet the college fund on 657 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: that one, buddy, that this was such a layup talked 658 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: about like Kenny Dillingham was back in Arizona. He he 659 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: left offering a few kids in the state of Arizona. 660 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: He went out to games. You knew he's gonna want 661 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: to beat that ass because no matter what Arizona is, 662 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: no matter if he's gonna be in the running for 663 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: the Arizona State job or not, that he was juiced 664 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: to be in his hometown. It was like Paul Pierce 665 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,959 Speaker 1: playing against the Clippers or Lakers, like he was home 666 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: and he wanted to show out, and you knew Oregon 667 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: was gonna put points on the board. But the biggest 668 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: difference in this game to me was if bone Knicks 669 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: looks down the field and he sees that he might 670 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: have somebody fifty yards down the field, but it's second 671 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: and four and there's a six yard window of open 672 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: space for him to move the sticks, He's going to 673 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: move the sticks. That I love that it's helpful because 674 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: if if Jaden Dolora is in that same situation, he's 675 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna not throw it to the guy that's fifty yards 676 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: down the field, not take the run. He's going to 677 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: throw it to the guy that's seventy yards down the 678 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: field like, no, no, just get the first down and 679 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: live to fight another play reminds me of like he 680 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: reminds me the type of person that like they can't 681 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: like like if I came to you and I was like, George, 682 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: I got inside information Wyoming minus three this weekend, drop 683 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: a bag on it, and you're gonna be good. And 684 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: then I call you after Wyoming wins by two touchdowns 685 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: and like did you take my advice? And you're like yeah, 686 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough action for me, so I parlayed 687 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: it into an eight leg and I lost a thousand dollars. 688 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: Like that's what he reminds me. He's like, just I need, 689 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: I need to throw the ball all the way down 690 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: the field just to feel something, and that that's only 691 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: when it works. But man, it was so unnecessary against Oregon. Yeah, 692 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: and Oregon got a player thrown thrown out for targeting 693 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: and I and I can't tell you how much I 694 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: hate these targeting penalties in in college football, Washington State 695 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: got the a tackle kicked out against USC. He didn't 696 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: even hit him in the in the in the head. Yes, 697 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: it was a blind side block, but it's but it 698 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: feels like the conference who's initiating a lot of these reviews. 699 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: It's just actively like that when when it's called on 700 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: the field, it has a legitimate shot of being adjudicated correctly. 701 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: But if San Francisco calls it in and stops the game, 702 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: they're not overturning it under no circumstances. And you're sitting 703 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: there as a fan like, bro, like, can we like 704 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: I understand that that it's tough when people get get 705 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: hit some sometimes, but you have to understand the nuance 706 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: in targeting like that there needs to be a targeting 707 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: one and a targeting two. Like targeting two, you get 708 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: kicked out of the game. Targeting one it's just a 709 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty because there are in there's incidental contact 710 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: because people are moving so fast, and and in usc 711 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: you had to do get kicked out. You could also 712 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: have it worked like the NBA where if you get 713 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: two of them, even if they're both incidental, you got 714 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: to sit the rest of the game. Correct. Yeah, And 715 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: and then when when when you have like six three 716 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: guy on five eight, Guy, Bro, it's tough. That happened 717 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: in the A s U game. B Green b J. 718 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: Green is shorter and he had his head down. He shouldn't. 719 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't have your head down. I'm gonna throw that 720 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: out there, just don't. But he had his head down 721 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: and he got uh Michael Panics got hit from the 722 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: other side, which pushed him into b J Green who 723 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: had his head down, and b J Green got disqualified 724 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: for targeting and Panics and Panics ended upetting Win knocked 725 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: out of him, and it was kind of it was 726 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: it was a rough plate, but it was one of 727 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: those things where it was like, was this targeting or 728 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: an accident? Because to me, like like b J Green 729 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't hit him if he didn't get hit from the 730 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: other side. So I don't know. I'm with you there. 731 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: There needs to be more nuance, but you put more 732 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: decision making with nuance in the hands of Fact twelve officials. 733 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: And is that a good idea? No, the answers no, Um, 734 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: I want to give some some bow Knicks love though 735 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: a man that I have slandered for years, for years, 736 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: for years, or if you go back to our first episode, 737 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: it's very possible it includes bow Nick slander. Oh yeah, yeah, 738 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: because that was when Oregon was going down to go 739 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: play Auburn. He was terrible in the game, except for 740 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 1: the last drive terrible. And granted it was his first start, 741 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: but still, And I've never thought that bo Nix was 742 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: Like I thought that he had good moments at Auburn, 743 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: but I never in my life thought that he would 744 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: be playing the way he's playing football right now. So 745 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: it's amazing a dude with a competent offense and competent 746 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: coaching playmakers around him where he's not being asked to 747 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: to do everything. Then it's amazing how good that he's been. Yeah, 748 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean and and and it helps when you rush 749 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 1: for three hundred and six yards as a as a team, 750 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 1: very helpful. And that he doesn't take a lot of 751 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: negative plays. Um the H word. Please let's sleep, like 752 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, let's leave let's leave that out of it. Um. However, Uh, 753 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: I was listening to and there are so many pac 754 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: twel podcasts now and so you know, my entire week 755 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: has spent listening to people that it seems like the 756 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: whole Pack twelve football podcast landscape is just a collection 757 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: of everybody who hates pronouncing names correctly. Present company included 758 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, pronounced this word s h o U g 759 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: H s H s h o you shug Yep, there 760 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: we go. See shout out to Tyler shuck um. But 761 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: so I don't remember what I was talking about anymore 762 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: because I wanted to get that shot in oh So 763 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: was the John and John podcast Wildner and Kanzano, and 764 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: they brought up that they don't think that the selection 765 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: committee would give Oregon a shot at twelve and one, 766 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: and I can't like that. I can't. I can't imagine 767 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: a scenario where they wouldn't, especially with the way that 768 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: they have won after that game. Yeah, and but at 769 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: the same time, like nobody pays it when by the 770 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: time it gets to be your first game in the season, 771 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: plus you factor in what everybody else in college, I 772 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: cannot imagine a scenario in which a twelve and one 773 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: organ First of all, Oregan is not going twelve and one. Again, 774 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: this is the pact twelve. Nobody goes undefeated, right, So 775 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: but if Oregon goes twelve and one, they're not going 776 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: to be fifth in the country, not with UTAH U 777 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: c L a USC being ranked, Washington State being and 778 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: you would have had to beat every single one of 779 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: them probably, yes, yeah, And so like that one, that 780 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: one's surprised me because it was like, what us as 781 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: a chance, U c l A as a chance And 782 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: at the time they'd said utah, but but they'd said, 783 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, I don't see the they think that the 784 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: blowout to Georgia would preclude them from being selected if 785 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: they were twelve and one. There's no situation on Earth 786 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: where twelve and one power five team is not included, 787 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: because the landscape of college football is there's not gonna 788 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: be a ton of one mass teams anyway, especially one 789 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: twelve in a row with four victories overranked teams in 790 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: the process just doesn't happen. Yep, you are right about that. Um. Now, 791 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: the last game on the slate was Oregon State Stanford, 792 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 1: oh Yo. Can can we please stop pretending about Oregon 793 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: State because because Stanford is awful, Stanford is awful and 794 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: Oregon State almost lost this football game. They literally had 795 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 1: to win it at the end of the game. And 796 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: if and I tweeted, I said, if Stanford had fans, 797 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 1: they would blow up Twitter for for how they lost. 798 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean they would. Any major fan base would have 799 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: been trending number one after the way that they lost 800 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: on that on that long pass at the end of 801 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, what do you want to talk about 802 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: this game? Because I had there's so much, so much 803 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: that confused me on both sides. I left angry at 804 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: both teams. Okay, why okay, well, why did you leave 805 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: angry at Stanford? Well, Stanford, it was primarily the fourth quarter, 806 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: so and there in the fourth quarter, yeah, and and 807 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: the defensive effort up to that point. There were two 808 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: very long drives by Oregon State that were very impressive, 809 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: that took up a bunch of yardage, a bunch of time, 810 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: and they looked very Oregon State like. Masterful play calling 811 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: by uh Jonathan Smith and and uh what's his zocie's name, 812 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: Harrison Dude nor down L Yeah, different iron last name. 813 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: But uh so they they had two drives where they 814 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: really look like themselves. They never looked rattled, they never 815 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: looked shook. There was one throw by Ben Goldbrandson that 816 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: went to Silas Bolden in the back corner of the 817 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: end zone that was like the dimiest of dimes. Right. 818 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: So o, Oregon State was doing its thing with its 819 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: limitations and they were just kind of the little engine 820 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,720 Speaker 1: that could. They kept at it. Stanford's defense had played 821 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: with so much energy and so much swag for three 822 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: quarters and then they legitimately just went soft, and I 823 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: don't know what to blame that on. And and then 824 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: still there was no excuse for losing this game. They 825 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: had the ball with less than a minute thirty left. 826 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: Did they bring an Ari Patu because of his moment? 827 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: Did they take Tanner McKee out? Am I imagining this? 828 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: They bring and run a slow where Aripat kept the 829 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: ball got tackled for a loss on third and like one, no, no, no, no, 830 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: did they are a pot potto? He didn't come in 831 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: a game. It was the it was the Daniels kid. Um, 832 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: Well what what in the hell was that? Well, he's there, 833 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: he's there. Jack Coletto, he's the guy that they put 834 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: in forth this South that cost you the game. Oregon 835 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 1: State tried as hard as they could in that fourth 836 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: quarter to make as many bad decisions as possible to 837 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: allow Stanford to win, and it didn't matter. They went 838 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: for two for no reason. Didn't use Jack Coletto. They 839 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 1: went for two for no reason again, or I guess 840 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: for a reason because of the last one. But they 841 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: didn't use Jack Coletto. And then George on their third 842 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: touchdown of the quarter, they took a knee, which was 843 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: the dumbest thing I have ever seen, because what if 844 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 1: Stanford got in field goal range, if Tanner McKie completes 845 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: that pass instead of throwing an interception, their one ten 846 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: yard play away from having an attempt to beat you 847 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: instead of to tie. Why did they take a knee 848 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 1: like Oregon State was just was like Oregon State had 849 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: money on Stanford, and Stanford wouldn't stop them because they 850 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: had money on Oregon State. Bro Okay, So I think 851 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: we need to give some credit to go Go Branson. 852 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: He came in and he played well like he he 853 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over for three on that last drive. Yeah, 854 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: so that that matters, right, um, And that takes a 855 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: long time to get to the receiver though, Yeah, a 856 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: long time. That thing was a moon ball, and especially 857 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: at last touchdown to a Harrison, I mean that last 858 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: touchdown interfere, Yes, interfere What is the why not? Yeah, 859 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 1: it's it's only fifteen yards. What's that video twist? Is 860 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: dick like anything that you need to do? Yeah? Yeah 861 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: it was. It was bad, dude, Like this was a bad, 862 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: bad situation. I mean this I think that this was 863 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,959 Speaker 1: the loss that kind of signals the end for David Shaw, 864 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: because well, I actually actually maybe the beginning of the end, 865 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 1: or kind of the ending of the end, because after 866 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: they lose to Notre Dame this this weekend, I don't know. 867 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: And I like David Shaw, and I might. I like 868 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: David Shaw. I think he's good for the PAC twelve. 869 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: I think he's good for Stanford absently significant changes like 870 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: bringing in an offensive, like forcing him to change his 871 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: offensive and defensive situation, situation at coordinators and coaches and 872 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: all of that, absent that I don't know how you 873 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: keep them, but I don't know who you get to 874 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: replace him. Well, then that's that also becomes the interesting thing, 875 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 1: because you know what I would absolutely do if I 876 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 1: was the top name out there, I would absolutely go 877 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 1: for the Stanford job, a job above all else, because 878 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 1: any other job is gonna pay me half m M. 879 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't and they're going to guarantee my contracts so 880 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't have to turn anything around. The incentive to 881 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: make Stanford good based on their budget right now is absolute. 882 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 1: It doesn't exist because you have to figure they They've 883 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: let it be known that their budget is a minimum 884 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 1: for the staff as a whole is a minimum of 885 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: thirteen million a year. We're talking sec money that is 886 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 1: going to their to their coaching staff. Give me that 887 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: job and give me the patients that you showed David Shaw, 888 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: and let me walk out of their forty million dollars 889 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: richer because I paid uh North cal Rent. No, that's 890 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: a that is a good point. Um. Yeah, that it's 891 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: just tough. Now on to this weekend end, we have 892 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 1: some games. We have Cow versus Colorado Cow. For for Cow, 893 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: it's a must win for Yeah. This game is on 894 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve network with b J Long and Max Brown. 895 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: What is the line on this game? I want you 896 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: to guess and then I'll give you that. Do you 897 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 1: think it's three touchdowns? Uh? No, I say it's seventeen. 898 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: You are correct, but not correct enough. It's only fifteen, 899 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: believe it or not. I can believe that with an 900 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: over under a forty eight, which is might be the 901 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: lowest in the conference this year. Jez Louise, Yeah, that's 902 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. That means that that means that they're 903 00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:01,240 Speaker 1: expecting Colorado not even to score like under, they're expecting 904 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: him to score under twenty points. Yeah, yep, and all right, 905 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,439 Speaker 1: so who do you have in the game, California. Yeah, 906 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 1: Colorado's oh and five against the spread. This is probably 907 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: their tightest spread, uh since maybe the opening week. Um, 908 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: I think no air Force was seventeen. Air Force was 909 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: favored by more. Yeah. I think Col's gotta go in there, 910 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: feed j not and just get off the field. Go 911 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: in there and make sure this game is over by 912 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: four thirty. And because you got the rest of your 913 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 1: season to worry about and moving into the rest of 914 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: your season, four and two would be huge. Colorado might 915 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: have some be energized coming off the bye with the 916 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: coaching change, but it shouldn't matter if it's just fundamental 917 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: stuff like you are better than them on the O 918 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 1: line and you're running the ball with a running back 919 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: that they can't they can't get down. I think they 920 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: have to be no nonsense about it, but I think 921 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: they have to take it very seriously. It's weird to 922 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: say that it's a must win, but it's cal cal 923 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: is the back half of their schedule. They're gonna have 924 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: to fight to get two or three wins, so they 925 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: need to go in at four and two. Yes, yeah, yeah, 926 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: This is the difference in being Bowl eligible or the 927 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: possibility of being Bowl eligible and not. Yeah, all right, um, 928 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 1: I got call as well. You're listening to Fox Sports. Alright, 929 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: Arizona at Washington. What is the line on this game? 930 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: It's in Seattle and Washington is favored by two touchdowns. Conversely, 931 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: this over under is the highest this week at seventy three. Yeah, 932 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 1: there are gonna be a lot of points scored in 933 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: this game. And what did what did you say? The 934 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 1: line was Washington minus fourteen. I'm gonna take the Huskies, bro, 935 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: really okay, I think they're gonna score and score and 936 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: score and score. Wait, nope, nope, I'm taking Arizona. I 937 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a ten point victory for for 938 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 1: for a Washington. I'm taking Arizona. Okay. I think Arizona 939 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: is putting points on the board for sure. But if 940 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: they bring that same game plan to uh to Seattle 941 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: that they tried to use in Tucson last week, these 942 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: games they get away from him. Yeah that's a fact, Jack, 943 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 1: there there's some dbs in this game. I hope you're 944 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 1: wearing a fit bit. I bet you're gonna run like 945 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: four miles and That Games on PEC twelve Network with 946 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 1: Tay Robinson a Yogi rock on a fit bit. Because 947 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take Arizona. I do think Washington is 948 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: gonna win this game, but I think it'll be like 949 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: eight to ten points. I would love for it to 950 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: be like a final score. That'd be fun, all right. 951 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:58,760 Speaker 1: Uh Stanford Cardinal in South Bend against Notre Dame on NBC. 952 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: This game has lost a lot of its luster because 953 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: neither team is ranked. Um. Yeah, this is honestly a 954 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: sad state of a sad state of affairs. But I 955 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 1: hope that it's I just at least hope that it's 956 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: a good game. You got all those future lawyers on 957 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: the field on both sides. Put up a fight. Yeah, 958 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 1: pretend it's a courtroom, Okay. In this game, I want 959 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: Notre Dame to win mm hmm, because I want, uh, 960 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: they're there, their new head coach to do well. And 961 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 1: I think that that it's already too late for David Shall, right. 962 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be close. That's all I care about. 963 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: Seventeen points is a massive spread. It's the answive spread. 964 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: Especially Notre Dame's offense has not really done anything to 965 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: inspire the type of confidence that even if Stanford didn't 966 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: score that it would be seventeen nothing. Oh my god, 967 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 1: bro Um Marcus Freeman team. Okay, let's let's see what 968 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 1: they've done. So they beat b y U twenty. They 969 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: beat North Carolina forty five to thirty two, and North 970 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: Carolina's defense is awful. They beat Cal seventeen. All right, 971 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't see this as a seventeen point win. Nope, nope, nope. 972 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: I think I'm taking Stanford, but Notre Dame gets to win. 973 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 1: I am with you, I will, I will follow your 974 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: lead on this one. Yeah, yeah, I just don't. Yeah, 975 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: the way Notre Dame is played, They've gotten some points 976 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: put up on them. Notre Dame hasn't beaten anybody by 977 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: seventeen points, so so why might have believed that this 978 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be the start of that? Um? They lost 979 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: to Marshall All USC at Utah the game of the week, 980 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 1: the game of the week. What is the line in 981 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: this game? This is I believe USC is favored and 982 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: they are No, no, no, no, no, Utah minus three 983 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: and a half. I was wrong. That is fascinating. It 984 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 1: feels like one of those lines where they're baiting USC fans, 985 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: Oh to to to take the line, yeah plus three 986 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: and a half. Oh God, give me utah or give 987 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: me death in this game. Well, actually no, don't give 988 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: don't give me death, but give me give me utah. 989 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: So this game. It's weird to say this in week 990 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: seven or game seven, but I think we're actually going 991 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: to find out which, if it's truly two blow to 992 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 1: or Clark Phillips is the fact all defensive Player of 993 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: the Year, because right now those two are absolutely running 994 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: away with it. The other people who are making an 995 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: argument to like who's gonna win the bronze, But right 996 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: now it's down to two players and they're gonna be 997 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: on the field at the exact same time. I think 998 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: that as long as Cam Rising limits any negative plays, 999 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: if this is a real turnover battle game, because USC 1000 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: doesn't give the ball away, So if you taught matches 1001 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: that energy and they don't give them all away, I 1002 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: do think that they're one touchdown better, So give me 1003 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 1: give me utah. Um. I don't feel great about it 1004 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: because one of these teams turns the ball over and 1005 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: the other one doesn't. But it's all comes down to 1006 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: Utah taking care of the football. If they take the 1007 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: care of the football, they will win this game. Bingo, buddy, bingo, bingo, bingo. 1008 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: Give me Utah that you couldn't have been more spot 1009 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: on their last game of the weekend, Washington State at 1010 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: Oregon State. What is this and this game is on 1011 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 1: pack twelve network? Oh my god? We we don't even 1012 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: have an ESPN game this weekend. Three pack twelve network 1013 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: games and then a Fox game. So ESPN was like, 1014 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 1: we only want one of them games. We do have 1015 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: a game on Peacock. Thank you, notre dame. Um we 1016 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: so Oregon State will not. I believe chance Nolan has 1017 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: probably done for a while, right, like, yes, are you 1018 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 1: hearing the same thing? Yeah? So it's Ben Golbrandson again. 1019 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: This is in Corvallis. Um Oregon State is favored by 1020 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: three and a half. The over under fifty two and 1021 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: a half. I would hammer that under, which means if 1022 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: you followed my picks this year, I was about to 1023 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: say I would not have a hammer the under. I 1024 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:47,479 Speaker 1: would actually take the game. All right, Um, I gotta 1025 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 1: take Washington State. Maybe I believe in them too much. 1026 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I do believe Oregon State can win this football game. 1027 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: But watching this State is slippery due they are slippery 1028 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: like that. That's the best way I can explain how 1029 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 1: cam Ward plays. He's slippery. But but if you can 1030 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: get a hold of him though, oh you can choke 1031 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: him out. But but if you but if he just 1032 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: is slipping out of your fingertips all the time, you're 1033 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: gonna be in for a miserable day. So Oregon say 1034 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: either wins this game on like the last play again 1035 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: or they lose by like ten points. Yeah, and what's 1036 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: nice is Vegas is giving you three and given three 1037 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: and a half to the home team, So you can 1038 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 1: take Washington State and they you know, and all they'd 1039 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: have to do is is eeak it out. I think 1040 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: I think it's super favorable to jump on the Cougars 1041 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: here as plus three and a half. Yeah, I totally agree. Um, 1042 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: but before we get out of here, do you have 1043 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: anything else on the weekend, because there are a lot 1044 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,959 Speaker 1: of college football games this weekend that I'm super excited about. 1045 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm excited about Alabama Tennis Tennessee. Who do you think 1046 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 1: wins that game? Uh? If, if, if the rumors are 1047 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: true and Bryce Young was being saved for this game 1048 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: instead of putting him in last week. I do like 1049 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: him a little bit more than Hendon Hooker. But Tennessee 1050 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: so good. Um, I think either way, I think it's 1051 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a barnburner. But I give me Alabama. Yeah, 1052 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,919 Speaker 1: totally agree. Um, But but Tennant Tennessee is tough, boy. 1053 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee is tough, tough, tough. Um. Now I'm rooting. I 1054 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: am rooting for Oklahoma State to beat TCU in uh 1055 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: in Fort Worth this weekend. Though that's a that that's 1056 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: one that I actually do have a rooting interest because 1057 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 1: if you look at Arizona State schedule thus far, it's 1058 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: already absurd, but you know, to have to multiple top 1059 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: ten teams in there, then the two and four doesn't 1060 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: look as crazy. So I'm rooting for Mike Gunde to 1061 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 1: be a man and be be a be a man 1062 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,919 Speaker 1: and be forty. Yeah, that that's gonna be a good 1063 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 1: game too. Um. This is and then there's another ranked 1064 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 1: game that is surprising that both of these teams are 1065 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:13,919 Speaker 1: ranked right, and it is Syracuse playing against NC State. 1066 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of people that were writing off 1067 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Dino Baber's as an early wonder but now he's gotten 1068 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: his quarterback situation fixed better. And and this is gonna 1069 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 1: be a big game because in the a c C standings, 1070 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Syracuse is still undefeated, and when they get 1071 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: a chance to play at home in the j M 1072 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 1: and what used to be the Carrier Dome now that 1073 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: j M a wireless dome, then it is like they 1074 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: are a much tougher team in that in that situation, 1075 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: and then in the a c C they are on 1076 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: the same side as Clemson, NC State, Wake Forest, like 1077 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: all the good teams are on one side of the 1078 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: a C C um Yeah, so it'll be very very 1079 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 1: interesting to see how that shakes out. Well. The Syracuse 1080 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: thing is funny because it's like it'd be like you're 1081 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 1: watching your grandma hit five three pointers in a row, like, 1082 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, she's really getting this thing going. But 1083 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: it's very unlikely, like it's possible Syracuse finishes five and 1084 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: seven and they're five and oh right now they have 1085 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: to be like super steadfast and everything they do because 1086 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 1: they follow up NC State, who is for real. They 1087 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: haven't always put it together, but they are for real. 1088 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: With number four Clemson at Clemson, I think I'm gonna 1089 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 1: go to that game, then they gotta play Notre Dame. 1090 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 1: Then they're at pit then they have Florida State, then 1091 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 1: they have ranked Wake Forest at god, God, they need 1092 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: to be five and oh they're like they I would 1093 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: be proud of them for being Bowl eligible at the 1094 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: end of this run. But I do root for Tony White. 1095 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: He's their defensive coordinator. He used to be Arizona State's 1096 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and I think he bounced when uh, well, 1097 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: we won't get into white bounce, but he uh, he 1098 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 1: is out there at Syracuse, and I'm rooting for them 1099 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 1: to continue to have success. All right. Penn State Michigan. 1100 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 1: Michigan is favored by seven points in that game. Uh. 1101 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: Penn State is the most frustrating team in college football 1102 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: for me because normally, when you have like four straight 1103 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: years of top ten recruiting classes, it matters. Yeah, and 1104 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: and it did. It doesn't matter if they had four 1105 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: straight years of the number one recruiting class. Penn State 1106 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: just wants to make everything a close game no matter 1107 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: who they play. Uh do I don't have any faith 1108 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 1: in Penn State at this at the like James Franklin, 1109 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: and and it's funny because he was like, I don't 1110 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: have any. The guy on the other side is Jim Harbaugh. 1111 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 1: So but yeah, I'm I'm on Michigan here. Yeah, totally agreed. Um, 1112 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: you guys, I'm George Rice, Sir. He's Ralph Amson. And 1113 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 1: this is the pack twelve Apostles