WEBVTT - Draft Show: Prepping For Mobile 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:14.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is the 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:19.560 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.680 insider news and trapped analysis from deep within the confines 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:30.400 of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco. And now 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:36.760 your hosts Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:43.800 David Hellman. Good morning, Good morning, Good morning. It is guys. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.280 It's all of a sudden starting to feel a lot 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:52.360 more normal around here in January. News flying about coaching hires, 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.440 which I was shocked that we got to this stage 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:59.240 of January without more news on that front. Looks like 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.400 the Broncos and Bears are filling their job openings. Sounds 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:05.319 like that's going to have an impact on the Cowboys 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.280 coaching staff, which is amazing timing because it's time to 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:12.400 talk Senior Bowl. How y'all doing this morning? I'm doing awesome. Yeah, 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.600 you're it. All it takes is one domino to fall, 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.360 you know. All it takes is that one and once 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:20.120 to Denver one. I mean, there's talk about what Jacksonville 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.800 is gonna do, and but with Byron Leflige, though, you're 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.360 looking at a situation where he's looking to bring personnel guys. 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.440 So that's kind of a hold up over there. But 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.319 when you get one, then all of a sudden, the 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.080 other ones start to fall. I think the thing is 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.679 you had some new general managers that need to get 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:36.840 up to speed, and I think that slowed things up 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.440 a little bit. So and you know, there's there's reports 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.000 out there that dan Quinn might be staying with the Cowboys. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.680 I don't want to get too deep into that until 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.760 we've had a chance to work on it a little 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.520 bit more. But I think what a journalist you are, hey, 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:52.920 I mean I don't I don't want to sit here 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:57.080 and go with stuff that we're reading one face if 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.600 in the internet, if anybody knows his stuff, it probably 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.120 Tom Pellicero. I just don't want to jump the gun. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.559 But I just I do think it's interesting because Brian, 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.119 you know, like we're going to get into talking about 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.320 these players. Well, I thought dan Quinn had the Denver job. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.960 I don't know much. You know what happens at places 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.640 like Mobile, Yeah, and so I mean this is an 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.600 interesting time of year. How does how could that potentially change? 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.919 Things for the Cowboys, and again, we don't even know 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.000 if they're going to go to Mobile. Yeah, but when 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:30.519 you talk about guys hiring and changing jobs and stuff 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.080 like that, how does that affect the beginning of this 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.799 draft process as teams get ready to go down to Mobile. Yeah, 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:37.800 there's there's two things you can do in Mobile you 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.560 can take advantage of. If you're a head coach that's 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.760 looking for staff, you get inundated. You know, you always 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:46.960 there's always guys that are kind of scouting. You're out. 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.520 If you're a team that has openings at running back, 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.640 offensive line, quarterback, whatever, maybe some new coaches are going 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.000 to get opportunities to Mattie Refluse guys like that to 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.440 go down there. It might be a bad situation. You 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.400 might not want to go because you have everybody looking 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.200 for a job and wanting to talk to you, and 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.720 then you can't evaluate while you're down there is evaluate 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.160 the players. So to me, it's really a kind of 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.800 a twofold. You're there to look at the players, But 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.000 maybe you do take the opportunity to set up a 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.760 couple of interviews off campus with guys if you have 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.720 some positions, say, for example, if the Cowboys moved on 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.520 from Joe Philbin as an offensive line coach, and they 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.000 went down there trying to will that into a second. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.680 As I say, I'm just giving you an example of 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.200 something that could happen. Yeah, they were looking for that type. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.200 They could set up some guys, maybe some guys like 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.800 a Mike Munchak or something like that from Denver. Some 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:41.279 of these staffs that have openings George Warhop at Jacksonville. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.960 These are coaches that are out of jobs, that are 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.160 good coaches, and maybe you take the opportunity to after practice, Hey, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.000 let's meet over here for lunch. We'll do a little 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.520 interview and kind of get a little bit of an 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.720 idea what's going on. Kyle Yeoman's also starting to feel 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.000 a little bit more like January because we got to 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.640 prove to go to Mobile. Very excited about about that. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.160 We'll miss y'all next week. I do. I miss I 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.200 miss our trips to what's what's the oysterhouse down there? 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.040 This is the ACME win Winsel's acme's in New Orleans 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.680 Rights Act me as in New Orleans Forte. I'm surprised 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.640 you're not going to be in a Winnebago, just driving 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:16.880 all the way down there. You know, if they let 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.920 me go in to Winnebago, I would I'd absolutely go 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.040 in to Winnebago. If you didn't have feature strength, as 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.039 you know, if you didn't have to modify five hours 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.120 of radio a day, yeah, I'd love to go. I 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.120 love the Senior Bowl. I love the Senior Bowl. I 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:32.040 love the combine my two favorite places. Fantastic segue into 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.280 all right, so we can talk about dan Quinn. We 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.960 can worry about all that stuff later. But the Senior 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.359 Bowl starts next week practices, we'll have a chance to 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.320 look at some of these guys. What what are your 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.359 early thoughts on this roster? And I looked through it 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.200 last night. No one we were going to talk about it. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.480 I know this isn't it's not a star studded draft, 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.200 at least it doesn't seem like it to me. But 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.680 for what seems like the six or seventh year in 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.200 a row, like, I mean, all the important quarterbacks are 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.560 gonna be there. What stands out to you from this roster? Well, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.880 starting with quarterback, six of my top seven quarterbacks are 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.440 in Mobile. I mean, that's that's a pure thing off 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.800 the top I mean, of course early rankings in my regard, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.000 but six of the top seven. The only one that's 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.760 not in Mobile was Old Missus quarterback who tours ACL 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.600 in the Sugar Bowl, and Matt Correll. So there are 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.960 so many talented players. And it's not just quarterback, running backs, 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.599 wide receivers. There's a lot of really good wide receivers. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.240 Pretty Much every good senior outside of maybe Chris Olave 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.120 from Ohio State who you mentioned in the first show, 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.880 is going to be there. Tight end. There are eight 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:40.560 really good tight ends that are going to be a 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.479 part of the festivities down in Mobile. And usually you 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.320 see it. Every once in a while, you'll have a 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.839 good position group. Like a couple of years ago, the 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.520 defensive tackles were really solid and Nevill Gallimore was a 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.840 part of that, but Javon kim Law was there. There 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.120 were a bunch of guys in the mix in terms 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.800 of that defensive line that we're really impressive this year. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.239 Really see it on the offensive side of the football 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.279 and a lot of the really good skills positions that 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.560 are gonna be fun to watch in practice. It's almost 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.680 like a rite of passage to fall in love with 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.360 a receiver or two during Senior Bowl practice. Yeah, I 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.240 think I counted. I think I counted. Let's see when 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.880 we do this again, that's five, eight to ten, twelve. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:22.080 I got twelve second round grades on guys that are 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.400 playing in this game. Wow. So to me, that's and 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.400 my only first round guy. Again, I'm not to the 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.080 point where I've seen a two hundred guys or anything 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.400 like that. But the hundred or the sixty guys I've seen, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.320 you know, Lloyd the linebacker from Utah would be a 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.240 guy that I'd be very interested. But yeah, when you 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.760 start to talk about defensive ends, there's a couple of 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.520 defensive tackles. Mathis from Alabama. I think as a guy, 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.479 you're going to have to look at Logan Hall from Houston, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.280 another defensive tackle that's a one in the three right there. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.560 As far as the techniques, Jermaine Johnson, end, Cam Thomas, 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.000 these defensive ends, you know Sanders, I mean, there are 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.840 some defensive ends this thing it plus these of these guards. 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.640 If you're interested in a guard or a tackle with 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:08.280 Zion Johnson, you know Kennard we mentioned him as well, Penny, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:15.239 you know Falala, how would you say that I mean position, 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.240 he's the Minnesota offensive tackle and so yeah, I mean 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.240 to me, that's where you know you mentioned the tight ends. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.840 McBride is a kid that I watched at Colorado State 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.200 that I kind of like a little bit. So yeah, 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.560 it's a it. They've done a really nice job down 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.880 there with the with the roster and how they've put 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.320 that together. That's you're a perfect person to ask. You've 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.960 been involved in the draft process since the early nineties. 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.800 It seems to me like the rosters a lot better 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.120 overall than it used to be. Not not this specific year, 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.080 but even in the time since I started doing this, 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.360 it seems like the Senior Bowl is getting a better 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.600 quality of player to be willing to go. I mean, 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.360 it blew my mind when they got Baker Mayfield up. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.720 I was shocked by that. Yeah, why do you think 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.680 that showed up? He still they say, got him to go? 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.720 You know, I think that. I think what's happened is 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.440 that you you know, Phil Savage used to run the 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.600 Senior Bowl, and you know, to me, there was you know, 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.680 Phil didn't have it was like a small committee of guys. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:26.320 The Senior Bowl has taken on a whole new different look. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.080 When it comes to the evaluation. Phil used to really 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.440 rely on like the scouts telling him what guys, and 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.800 then it came down to okay, well, then hey we 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.480 have to you know, we have to extend invitations. I 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:39.680 think now if you look at the new regime and 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.679 what they've been able to do there and Mobile, is 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.040 that they've done a better job. They have a full 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.400 time really scouting department, They go to all these games, 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.800 they have their own sets of eyes, they have personnel evaluations. 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.280 So not only do you take what's going on with 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.600 from the input you get from general managers and scouts, 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.040 you have your own input and I think that's what's 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.240 made the game so much better. Yeah, and you've also 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.440 had guys that have gone to the Senior Bowl, played, 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.320 got exposure, had success, and it's actually helped their draft stock, 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.000 you know. So I think there's a lot of positivity 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.480 about the Senior Bowl and what is going forward. Really 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.080 good example of what you just talked about. What about 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.360 Mac Jones last year. There is a lot of talk 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.320 about him going early second round, maybe mid second round 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.120 as a quarterback out of Alabama, and then all of 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.080 a sudden he goes to Mobile. Matt rule is raving 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.560 about this guy. We spent two months talking about him 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.880 as the number two overall and then again and he 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.440 popped the I know Jeffrey knowing. Oh okay. All of 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:42.720 that said, though, Cowboys first round pick isn't going to 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.880 be in Mobile more than likely, more than likely. I 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.400 feel like it could be. If it's Yd, it could be, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.840 if it's Lloyd, could be, well, well, just Penning, what 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.040 are you looking for in these I know you're not 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.480 gonna be able to go I wish you were, but 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.760 what are you looking for in these three practices? I 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.320 what I care about the Senior Bowl Week four is 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.760 the level of competition is consistent and it's really really good. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:12.000 And college teams like offenses and defensives, they're all very 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:13.840 very different. What they ask people to do is very 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.440 very different. At the Senior Bowl you strip all of 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.400 that away and you say, all right, how about you 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.600 versus him? The one on ones are the most fun part, right, 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:22.920 Like it's let me see can you cover him? Can 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:27.000 you get open on him? And so like guys who 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.679 take the Georgia guys right, they got Quay Walker, Channing, Tendl, 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.040 DeVante Wyatt like they got a bunch of guys at 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:38.120 the Senior Bowl. Their defense was awesome and they had 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:42.640 so many awesome players. And while I'm studying Nakobe Dean, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.920 their linebacker, who's going to go in the first round, 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.920 I keep making notes of check who the other linebacker is. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.240 Oh wait, there's a different one. Check who that linebacker is. 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.439 Oh my god, there's another one. Because Nolan Smith is 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.760 a pass rushing linebacker of their's and like every one 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.560 of them, it's like, man, that dude can absolutely fly 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:01.160 and that dude can absolutely hit. You get your eyes 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.400 on all these different guys, and I guess back to 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.440 my original point, I'm gonna name one guy, Jalen Petrie. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.920 He's a safety at Baylor. I have no idea if 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.800 he can cover. No, No, I can't because the dude 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.120 plays the slot for them, and I don't think I've 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.120 seen a snap of man coverage. So like he blitzes, 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:22.160 he plays to run. He's super aggressive, great instincts. Yeah, 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.040 he wants to break everybody in half. I have no 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.600 clue if he can cover and mobile. You'll find out 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.120 because they're gonna make you. Yeah, And so it's just 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.520 a great evaluating tool for guys who you haven't seen 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.040 do certain things to see what do you got. That's 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.000 a really great point. And I mean we'll see some 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.560 linebackers work at edge. Probably we'll see some like Tweeter 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.080 edge guys do some linebacker drills. Well that's you know, 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.439 that's the thing with Jim Nagee and we talk about 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:49.680 him taking over and he works with these the coaches, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.160 you know, the Lions and you know what they're you know, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.240 and the Jets. I mean, he's gonna work with those 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.439 coaches and say, hey, listen, we've got grades on these 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.440 guys play in and coaches the scout will go up 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.520 and ask, hey, could you give this guy some reps 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.680 at defensive ind Like you know the other day, if say, 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:09.000 if Michael Parsons had gone to the Senior Bowl, that 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.800 maybe Michael Parsons might have been a guy you've seen 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.040 get some reps at rush in and you said, whoa, 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.360 I remember seeing Michael Parsons rush and kind of having 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.080 that in your mind. It's so good for the Cowboys 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.440 that the draft process was so incomplete that year, well 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.720 in that he didn't play an entire That's what I'm saying, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.800 Like they you if you had, if you had a 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.120 more complete picture of who Michael Parsons was, where do 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.400 you think he goes top four? It's hard to imagine 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.080 him because you also had to look back at the 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.199 top of that draft, Like, I don't think Atlanta's upset 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.319 about their picks at I don't think since he's upset 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.280 about their pick, they're definitely not. Maybe Sewell and Slater 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.880 would flip flop um. Yeah, but doing that exercise is 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:49.679 really fun because I thought the same thing, Like, Michael 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.200 Parsons is freaking incredible. Surely he would go in the 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.480 top three, and you're like, wait, no, they'd probably still 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.400 pick a quarterback. Yeah, that pick worked out great, don't work. 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.760 Probably could have taken a linebacker there, don't you think 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.000 if it was Michael Parsons. Kyle Pitts was fantastic, And 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.520 you know, I love Kyle Pitts. But don't you think 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:11.160 most people would draft a thirteen sack edge rush linebacker 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.160 guy over a tight end? Uh No, you know, I 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.560 never looked at him as a tight end, So that's fair. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.800 That's kind of what I did. You take Devin White 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.640 over Travis Kelsey. I don't think Devin Whites he's a 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.240 double digit sack guy. That's a good linebacker he had. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.640 But I think their skill sets are different. Like sure 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.960 Bucks don't use Devin in the way that the Cowboys 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.280 use Micah Parsons. I think the Cowboys had to use 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.400 Michael Parsons because they didn't have a defensive end to rush. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.720 I asked Dan that. I was like, is it fair 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.400 to say that this sometimes sometimes because nobody was available? 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.920 Sometimes that a necessity. You come up with great ideas. 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.720 You know, what's that? What's that saying? Necessity is the 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.480 mother of invention? Yeah, well, you know, I just think 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.480 they do a really nice job. The Senior Bowl is 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.560 they've We've talked about this. They do a lot better 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.600 job with the evaluation. I think they do a better 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.199 job of the coaches putting him through the drills, the 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.880 one on one stuff. Jeff's talking about that film that 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.400 you watch and the Senior Bowl is invaluable when well, 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.040 remember Ali Moore Pett from Hobart, you know, I mean 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.480 we watched Ali Moore Pett and the Hobart tape. I 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.280 keep bringing it up because of the bounce house and 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.439 the out in the end zone and stuff. But when 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.520 you watched Ali Moorepett played the Senior Bowl, you know, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.160 like he belonged. Yeah, you know there's there's there are 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.640 players that are going to get opportunities that from these 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.040 small schools that that you your tape is going to 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.160 be a little bit you know, a little bit lacking, 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.680 but Senior Bowl tape might help you. This is I 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.440 went through the roster just because there's always a guy 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.080 Kyle Dugger from Lenoir Ryan as another one safety turning 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.080 turning into a nice player for the Patriots. Got a 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:42.560 got an offensive lineman from Fordham. Yeah seven blocks of 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.840 granted we Vince Lombardi school. Shout out to Fordham. I 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.480 thought I saw a Gregory. I watched him last night. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:52.880 I watched him last night. How do you look like? 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.320 You know what? It's funny. It's he's playing at Cliff 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.760 Harris Stadium there the old Yeah, that's where he was playing. Nice. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.480 But this guy, I mean, you know you're watching to 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.080 play against Southern Arkansas Henderson State. The guy he looks 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.320 small on tape. He's like a five eleven to a 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.840 one guy. He looks small, and it's funny because everything 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.560 about him looks like that he could be a good player. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.160 I mean, he's a relaxed pedal, he's really quick, he bursts. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.240 This is what the Senior Bowls for, though, guys like this, 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.280 the Gregory juniors of the world who probably should have 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.480 been maybe a little bit better, but the competition to 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.640 step up. You know, if he goes out there and 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.600 you start to hear him cover and see him in 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.240 the one on one and he doesn't look out a place, 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.600 then you're now, you're now you're even going back and 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.360 you're saying, Okay, I've got to know a little bit 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.400 more about this guy. But I mean, this guy's really 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.920 really a natural player the way he moves. And you know, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.080 scouts and coaches, we miss players all the time. Kids 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.920 end up at places like that because they fall through 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.640 the cracks, you know. And I'm sure this kid will 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.480 go out there at Mobile and he'll do just fine, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.960 covering guys from Michigan and Ohio State and wherever else 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.600 he has to cover guys. There's also a Sam Houston 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.680 corner as well. Out there. That's I mean, which fair, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.440 and I love that, like you give guys an opportunity. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.920 But we're at the point and I love this. I 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.320 love it about the draft process in football in general, 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.520 Like FCS doesn't even feel like a reach to me anymore. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.880 You know, like those guys are on a Dayota State, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:24.240 I mean absolutely. Jabril Cox is a fantastic example, made 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.960 that jump to LSU playing the offensive tackle we've been 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.960 talking about. Yeah, and so I mean Sam Houston I 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.320 think played in the National title game this year, this year, 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.160 two years ago. Yeah, well or in the spring technically, 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.920 so since the last senior bowlding. Yeah. That that that 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:42.280 that's a quality program. So Zion McCullum, I see you, buddy, 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.240 I'm ready to watch you. What would you do if 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.800 I told you? Will McClay took over the draft process 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.000 in twenty fourteen. Dever drafted a small school game. We 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.240 can actually we got a questionably Boise that's as small 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.240 as you go. We got a question about that in 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.880 Twitter on those law Tech. They've drafted woods. They've drafted 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.320 eighteen senior Bowl guys in the time Will has been 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.919 running the draft. Yeah, twenty fifteen got a lot of 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.280 good players. Twenty fifteen is the only year that they 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.600 haven't done it, and they've drafted six in the last 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:18.440 two years. Gallimore, Reggie Robinson, Bradley and i OsO Diggi Zua, 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.320 Chauncey Golston and Jabril Cox. And there's fifteen or twenty 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.520 guys at the Senior Bowl. They're gonna be top sixty picks. Yeah, 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.960 it's just just in my sixty guys. What I say, 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.120 you know, twelve thirteen forty whatever the number I gave 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.639 you though, that's second round twelve and they probably have 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.760 six first rounders. Yeah, I mean I haven't seen it. 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.880 I haven't seen all of the quarterbacks. Like, you're gonna 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.520 have three or four quarterbacks go. I guess he's gonna 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.560 go in the first. Dotson might go in the first. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.440 The Penn statewide receiver Devin Lloyd's gonna go in the first. 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.800 There might be seven eight first round picks in Mobile. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.560 It feels unfair. I mean, yeah, the quarterbacks will be 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.800 first round price, but like, I don't know, that feels 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.240 like cheating to me a little bit. Using the quarterbacks. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.880 Well yeah, a because the Cowboys aren't going to draft them, 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.399 and because quarterbacks get overdrafted, and that's exactly what's going 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.840 to happen this year. Because it's not a strong quarterback class. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:06.919 I like Kenny pick it up at the top, and 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.520 Malik Willis is gonna impress some people in Mobile because 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.959 he's finally gonna have an offensive line that blocks form 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.480 well Willis out of Liberty, pick it out of Pittsburgh. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.440 But it's not a good quarterback. He used this platform 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:22.640 to announce that you will never hear a strong quarterback 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:27.199 opinion from me ever again, because time it's impossible. Oh 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.440 is this in relation to Josh Allen? Just all of them, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.639 Like Josh Allen's the ultimate outlier, and like, yeah, that 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.919 was a not very good college player that couldn't throw 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.399 a ball accurately that now can. And it's like quarterbacks 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:45.520 is so so hard ever get a strong little run 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.240 right now? You would you you could find some tweets 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.840 that I'd be really embarrassed about about Josh Allen. Let 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.240 me tell you what time to go. You'll talk about 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:54.840 the senior. But I think it's a big time for 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.520 Sam Howell from North Carolina. Absolutely, because Sam Howe came 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.520 into this process as being one of the top quarterbacks 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.000 in the draft. I think it's super super important and 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.320 I think people are sleeping on him. That's my guy 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.160 that I'm going to kind of champion a little bit. 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.120 I love willis I love what you watched the old 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.159 Miss game. You'll fall in love with him just because 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.600 of the sheer will that he played with in that 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.760 football game. But Sam Howe is a guy that I 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.040 kind of feel like that people were on him early 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.320 and then they got real quiet about him because North 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.359 Carolina's season wasn't very good and I think he's gonna 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.879 make somebody a good quarterback one day. It's worth pointing 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.040 out he lost like his entire supporting cast coming out 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.800 of twenty twenty. All right, Actually this pertains to a 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:37.560 question we got for Twitter on the twenty. So we're 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.600 going to take a slightly early break and we got 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.520 Ya's questions coming up after this. 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