Speaker 1: You are now listening to waiting on reparations the production
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Yo, yo yo, what's good my people?
Speaker 1: I am dope knife, I am extremely tired, and we
Speaker 1: are we've been waiting to goddamn long for reparations, get
Speaker 1: my bro. But alright, so let's let's let's let's just
Speaker 1: pick it up and get right into it. So we
Speaker 1: you know, we've been really good, as our executive producer
Speaker 1: has been getting us to to be a lot more
Speaker 1: prompt when we're recording these, but we have gone back
Speaker 1: to our bullshit and we are on one of those
Speaker 1: late night sessions and you just got our City Hall.
Speaker 1: I don't even like these. I just got out of
Speaker 1: a Christmas party from the day job. I'm fucking I
Speaker 1: got I got a few with me. I'm feeling good,
Speaker 1: all right, So tell us a about the city Hall
Speaker 1: meeting that bro. So, I just got home from city Hall.
Speaker 1: It's our last volting meeting of the year, and there
Speaker 1: are several contentious issues on the agenda. For months, for
Speaker 1: months or a year, we've been working on an eviction
Speaker 1: defense program to keep people from getting kicked out of
Speaker 1: their house and they lost their job or got sick
Speaker 1: because of COVID, etcetera. Um, we finally passed it tonight. Um.
Speaker 1: But interestingly, like d c A and the Department of
Speaker 1: Community Affairs of Georgia, like they've started, you know, giving
Speaker 1: out millions of dollars to communities that had a program
Speaker 1: like this already. Yeah, and we didn't for various reasons,
Speaker 1: mostly obvious reasons. People have been staling. People have been
Speaker 1: stalling it, stalling it, stalling it. And so I am
Speaker 1: so thankful that finally, you know, all these families that
Speaker 1: you know been hit me up like yo, what I'm
Speaker 1: I'm living in the back of you hall whatever, Like
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do? You can get some help. Um,
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that it's so late, but that happened to
Speaker 1: night we approved um contract and funding for a safe
Speaker 1: place for the homeless folk to sleep. So how long
Speaker 1: exactly have you been working on it? So eviction prevention
Speaker 1: literally probably a year to the day YouTube in the
Speaker 1: programs like this exists in Guenda County. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: mean we were we were talking about eviction mortary moratariums
Speaker 1: like a year ago and still at it. We still
Speaker 1: had it. Yeah. No, So finally and then and it
Speaker 1: speaks as well. I mean, yes, people stalled it and
Speaker 1: that was very unfortunate. But in general, like the time
Speaker 1: scales in which we have to understand, like policy unfolds
Speaker 1: are so long, Like just generally the gears of government
Speaker 1: just turned so slowly, like a year to pull off
Speaker 1: a program. It's like it's like a it's like a
Speaker 1: very modest amount of time. Frankly, well, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to get like two into the weeds with
Speaker 1: let's go, but like, okay, so just I mean, anybody
Speaker 1: who's a regular listener to this show, they will have
Speaker 1: heard the like they will they will know how often
Speaker 1: you're in city Hall obviously a year and elected officials,
Speaker 1: so they know that, Like you've been working on this
Speaker 1: for a year, like you just said it. So what
Speaker 1: is it exactly? You know, if you guys are meeting
Speaker 1: up so much, right and y'all are discussing these things
Speaker 1: in these issues, what is it exactly that makes a
Speaker 1: project like this take a year to do? Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: like like is it is? It isn't? And I don't
Speaker 1: want to characterize us in the in like the unfair
Speaker 1: ware whatever, but it's like, is the progress that's made
Speaker 1: from day to day and meeting the meeting. Is it
Speaker 1: like that small that or that minute of a thing
Speaker 1: that it takes that duration of time or do things
Speaker 1: get snagged up and just in the sauce or or
Speaker 1: what so? Yeah, I'll say two things about that. Firstly,
Speaker 1: like a lot of our trouble and particularly implementing innovative
Speaker 1: solutions things like fair free public transportation, or like a
Speaker 1: safe place for homeless people to sleep, um or they
Speaker 1: won't be criminalized living outdoors like we have. We have
Speaker 1: to do two things. We have to Oftentimes, if we're
Speaker 1: you're dealing with federal funding, they have so many hurdles
Speaker 1: that we have to jump through in order to ensure compliance.
Speaker 1: Who's your accountant, you getting insurance from, what's your you know,
Speaker 1: the line of credit, what's your background doing this? All
Speaker 1: this stuff that just like if you chop up all
Speaker 1: those little parts each take like a week to work through,
Speaker 1: and so you're looking at weeks and weeks and weeks
Speaker 1: and um so yeah, there's that to it, and I
Speaker 1: guess to agree to a degree to your um your
Speaker 1: second question, um, yeah, Ultimately, like because we move in
Speaker 1: such slow motion, you know you can see all the
Speaker 1: like you know, slow motion rainstorm. You see all the
Speaker 1: individual droplets like as they hit the ground, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of like those little individual droplets of what we
Speaker 1: traffick in. It's like, okay, let's put push this a
Speaker 1: ford a little bit, a little bit, and over time
Speaker 1: it adds up. I brought up fair fee public transportation.
Speaker 1: People have been fighting for that for ten years and
Speaker 1: we just did it. And so it's just like all
Speaker 1: the little droplets slow motion smash no ground and finally,
Speaker 1: like you can see like the time speeds up and
Speaker 1: finally see like, oh snap, it's right and what's up.
Speaker 1: So then so okay, and then then I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: this and I kind of already know what your acts
Speaker 1: is gonna be. All right. So if like the average
Speaker 1: person is looking at this and they're thinking, man, this
Speaker 1: is taken too long. These people are just full of ship.
Speaker 1: They just need to hurry up and do these things,
Speaker 1: you being on the inside and seeing the way this
Speaker 1: gets this goes down, doesn't give you more of an
Speaker 1: understanding of like, no, I understand why it takes this long,
Speaker 1: or are you on the same line of Bill, this
Speaker 1: is bullshit that should be going faster. I mean part
Speaker 1: of me it's like, yo, this is bullshit, Like this
Speaker 1: should be going faster. Um. There is a part in
Speaker 1: which like you you die a hero, you live long
Speaker 1: enough to become the village, or like I find myself
Speaker 1: being like wait, you guys, I promise we're working on it,
Speaker 1: and like ending the government, which, like the activists and me,
Speaker 1: like my heart just tears into tiny type pieces every
Speaker 1: time I have to do it for this real ship though,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't even want to say that's real ship,
Speaker 1: but I mean, is it? Is it real ship? Is it?
Speaker 1: Like the activist part of you wants to be like nah,
Speaker 1: but the politician part is like nah. There's kind of
Speaker 1: a reason why it's And it's really hard to like
Speaker 1: moderate that because I gotta like stand up for the
Speaker 1: people and be like you, right, this is bullshit, and
Speaker 1: like yell but like staff, they're like trying their hardest
Speaker 1: know what to do, and I don't doesn't help If
Speaker 1: you yell at them, they're gonna just break out more
Speaker 1: and do it worse. Um. And so there's also like
Speaker 1: you know, trying to have grace for them, trying to
Speaker 1: convey to the public wild things take too long. And
Speaker 1: then something else I want to say on your first part,
Speaker 1: why stuff takes so long? Because you know, the Homeless
Speaker 1: Safe Site is being run by like a like a
Speaker 1: black nonprofit that's very grassroots, very just like in the
Speaker 1: thick of it, no paperwork, no, like they just kind
Speaker 1: of flying to see their pants. But like start of
Speaker 1: the pandemic, when everybody was scared to hug each other,
Speaker 1: they were going out into the forest to bring hot
Speaker 1: plates of food to the homeless people. You remember when
Speaker 1: I went out there with them maybe and like brought
Speaker 1: the plates and we sat up there. Yeah. And so
Speaker 1: like when you when you're working with an organization that
Speaker 1: historically has not just worked just hasn't worked with black people. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, when these organizations have not had the resources
Speaker 1: or the institutional support to do large scale work, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be like intercultural communication problems. Like it's not that
Speaker 1: it's not like malice that like our staff doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to communicate to these people, or these people don't
Speaker 1: know how to communicate staff. It's just like no one
Speaker 1: has had too before. It's naived almost rather than like maliciousness.
Speaker 1: And so that's why stuff takes so long when you
Speaker 1: try to like, all right, we finally go smatch down
Speaker 1: the doors and get some black people in here, get
Speaker 1: some money to like do this work. It's gonna take
Speaker 1: a long time because we have never done that before.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. So yes, that's the the why,
Speaker 1: the reason why things take long. But okay, so so
Speaker 1: if it it took long, we got done. But this
Speaker 1: is not even the only thing. But yeah, so for
Speaker 1: weight there us more so safe Side got passed. The
Speaker 1: Victim Defense Program got passed. So we also, uh were
Speaker 1: asked to reapprove federal funding for the Northeast Georgia Regional
Speaker 1: Narcotics Task Force, which I for year after year I've
Speaker 1: been critical love and I voted for the last year
Speaker 1: I put an amendments that alright to sell podcasts for
Speaker 1: we da dadaa. And this year is like, no, what
Speaker 1: fucking nope, I ain't doing the fil mode. So I
Speaker 1: published an off ed a couple of days ago. You
Speaker 1: can go you can do you search me on like
Speaker 1: social media. I'm right for Athens. You can go find
Speaker 1: and read it. It was very spicy, very spicy talking
Speaker 1: about the history of this grant, and it's delaterious effects
Speaker 1: on black communities and some public health solutions that are better. Um,
Speaker 1: including So one of the spicy spicy things about it,
Speaker 1: how to go, how to go. So one of the
Speaker 1: spice you think about it is like I took it
Speaker 1: all the way back to the source, like where does
Speaker 1: the grant come from? Where the drug war come from?
Speaker 1: And I referenced in Lee at Water famous Republican strategists
Speaker 1: working under Monald Reagan said you remember the ship. Yes,
Speaker 1: So he was like, you say nigger, nigger, nigger, but
Speaker 1: you cant say nigger anymore, so you say it was
Speaker 1: it was actually it was Nixon, not Reagan. Oh well yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: um yeah he was. He pretty much spilled the beans
Speaker 1: on the Southern strategy that right, yes, yes, employed so,
Speaker 1: um yeah, it's it's a famous recording. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, if I can find a find a non
Speaker 1: cover written, yeah, we'll play it on it. But he
Speaker 1: pretty much runs down how esoteric that the Republican Party
Speaker 1: got with the racism, you know what I mean, but
Speaker 1: expresses such a deliberate nous behind it that it's just
Speaker 1: and so like you know, that's when the strategies like
Speaker 1: the drug war came Bronx. You can't say nigger nigger anymore.
Speaker 1: You can say we gotta get tough one crime and
Speaker 1: catch criminals. So I went into it. I laid out
Speaker 1: the facts, but these motherfucker's criminology, public health reason why
Speaker 1: this is all bullshit. We need to do things new way.
Speaker 1: Well police Trape wasn't too happy about that. Um sent
Speaker 1: me like a five page rebuttle earlier today he was
Speaker 1: big bad, just lost it. Apparently it's feeling for a
Speaker 1: real hurt um the A local journalist called his response extraordinary,
Speaker 1: if not unprecedented. UM So, anyway, I went off all
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's like, Yo, this is what it's this is
Speaker 1: what's really really rude. Right now, y'all go, y'all go
Speaker 1: and mindlessly perpet your way Reagan's legacy. Y'all gonna take
Speaker 1: lea Water's advice, like what's good? What's popping? You know?
Speaker 1: What is funny? Just you mentioned in that, but like
Speaker 1: something that I just feel didn't get enough pressed. But
Speaker 1: do you recall that about a year ago they uncovered
Speaker 1: some Reagan tapes having a conversation with somebody with oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's being like hella rasing like, hell, I want to
Speaker 1: meet with like the leaders of these after African countries.
Speaker 1: Feet yeah, yo yo, niggas said dirty feet something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't quote me. It was something about their feet,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I know what you mean it was.
Speaker 1: It was just like it was some stereotypy. It was
Speaker 1: like some beyond plausible deniability ship. And I just felt
Speaker 1: like I just felt like that kind of went under
Speaker 1: the radar. So, you know, just just something. I feel
Speaker 1: like all the way they pull it out tape left
Speaker 1: and right, left and right, left and right. I know
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton has now been implicated in the Gelaan Maxwell trial,
Speaker 1: or maybe like do you want some ship with some
Speaker 1: underage kids? Which I don't find surprising. Um, the receipts,
Speaker 1: all the receipts. Trump is trying to start a constitutional crisis,
Speaker 1: so nobody can find the fucking log records of anything
Speaker 1: that was said during this time of Can you imagine
Speaker 1: I think we've said something about this in the last episode,
Speaker 1: but can you imagine how many niggas was flying around
Speaker 1: Pupil's vows in the Trump White House? Like for real,
Speaker 1: like you're telling me, you're telling me. The Steve Bannon wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't thrown around the N word word. So what
Speaker 1: are we what are you talking about today? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We were just riffing a ship, which you know,
Speaker 1: you're talking about Trump and a constitutional crisis. Maybe think
Speaker 1: about Matt Gates coming out today. Then if the GOP
Speaker 1: wins the House back, they're gonna try to put Trump
Speaker 1: in and Speaker of the House. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much I buy that, but I think we can just
Speaker 1: take that as like as as validation that they're gonna
Speaker 1: do all sorts of crazy ship. Yeah, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: when they win the House back, I want to say if.
Speaker 1: But you know, which brings us to our topic to today.
Speaker 1: So last week we had runoff elections in municipal races
Speaker 1: across Georgia and results were pretty good for progressive and
Speaker 1: so UM. And then we also had Stacy Abraham's announced
Speaker 1: for governor for the Democratic Party, David Purdue, former Senator
Speaker 1: of Georgia, announced for a governor on Republican side. And
Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk about what happened last week as
Speaker 1: well as what might go down just looking at like,
Speaker 1: you know, what are these results mean for the year
Speaker 1: to come, if anything, etcetera, etcetera. We're gonna get into
Speaker 1: all that after the jump. But first, but I need
Speaker 1: to know about this Christmas party it went down, so
Speaker 1: I would I can tell you had a gleam in
Speaker 1: your eye, all right? So okay, So like you know,
Speaker 1: I do this podcast and I wrap and that's you know,
Speaker 1: more or less for the most parts, how brother makes
Speaker 1: it goes. But let's keep it real, you know, and
Speaker 1: then you gotta get a regular jailb So at the
Speaker 1: j ob we had this Christmas party and you know,
Speaker 1: the the jig is up and the word is out.
Speaker 1: Oh man, do you guys know that mac maps? I
Speaker 1: heard the Max a really good rapper, Like that ship's
Speaker 1: going on, right. So we have the Christmas party. The
Speaker 1: bosses are like, hey, do you wanna you know, we're
Speaker 1: like every First of all, they like broke it up
Speaker 1: into pieces, like somebody who's there's a girl there who
Speaker 1: does stand up comedy and she did like a roast
Speaker 1: of everybody. It was pretty funny. They had like a
Speaker 1: magician come in and he did like some David Blade
Speaker 1: magic tricks that I gotta say, what happened? He didn't
Speaker 1: cut a girl in half. But he was doing something
Speaker 1: like he was doing something like pulling a bowling ball
Speaker 1: out of like a paper thin briefcase type ship like
Speaker 1: but I was standing like two feet from him and
Speaker 1: seeing it. So as far as I'm concerned, Nick is
Speaker 1: a wizard, you know what I mean? Like it was
Speaker 1: that crazy. If you did that, you had a couple
Speaker 1: of drinks and maybe something else in this was before
Speaker 1: the drinks. No, but the Magic Tricks was before the drinks.
Speaker 1: Briefcase saw you know what, I got that ship on video.
Speaker 1: You'll check on the check on the Instagram. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like we've been talking for the last few months.
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we want you to do some kind
Speaker 1: of because they went to the Afroman show that I
Speaker 1: did the Owners, and they were like, hey, we want
Speaker 1: you to do kind of a little wrap thing for them. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I went there thinking it was just all good.
Speaker 1: I started knocking some back, thinking I was just gonna
Speaker 1: chill there for a couple of hours and then head
Speaker 1: back here to record, and they like straight up snuck
Speaker 1: a p A system up on me with a bunch
Speaker 1: of Pete rock beats like like like that, you know what,
Speaker 1: I mean like yo, They're like, yo, do you want
Speaker 1: to go in? I was like, I'm just picturing them
Speaker 1: like rolling it out like a little thing while you're
Speaker 1: not looking. It's like really quietly tell him, like stack
Speaker 1: it up behind you with its pretty much what it was.
Speaker 1: So like at first, I was like nervous, like, oh,
Speaker 1: because there's some like corny Christmas thing you want me
Speaker 1: to do. And they're like, no, just just do you
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I just I freestyle
Speaker 1: the dude who about the props. I did some games
Speaker 1: and it just all felt really warm, like co worker,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I gotta saying. The
Speaker 1: paid day was pretty good. But the the paid day
Speaker 1: was pretty they was you know that that was like
Speaker 1: when you do those like university shows or like the shows.
Speaker 1: It was one of those sort of shows or you're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was so I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into all this stuff about the Georgia
Speaker 1: Progressives fucking wrecking ship, and we'll be right back with
Speaker 1: that after the jump. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we are back.
Speaker 1: So per the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the story of the
Speaker 1: Metro runoffs goes beyond the fact that a string of
Speaker 1: incumbents were ousted. If you look closer, you'll find that
Speaker 1: many of the winners were backed by the Georgia Working
Speaker 1: Families Party. That's a local chapter of a relatively new
Speaker 1: national progressive party based in Brooklyn, New York. Three of
Speaker 1: the newly elected city council members. Why don't you go
Speaker 1: ahead and say those names. Yeah, we got Lily on
Speaker 1: a Bati, We got Antonio Lewis, We got Jason Dojer
Speaker 1: who respectively of Li Liana um is Iranian American non binary.
Speaker 1: Um were individual Antonio Lewis, um, you know, reps hard
Speaker 1: for you know, Cleveland Avenue, very well supported by like
Speaker 1: the labor movement. And then we got Jason Doser, who
Speaker 1: is a military vet uh quote unquote progressive's pretty progressive guy, um,
Speaker 1: you know, longtime activist in the like Mechanicsville kind of
Speaker 1: area of Amanta. And then whose last whose last I
Speaker 1: was another one can forget forget about so most exciting
Speaker 1: to me, Kali cameo, um, my boy city councilman in
Speaker 1: South Fulton democratists and uh demograt socialists and um openly
Speaker 1: gay openly queer individual one the mayorship is going to
Speaker 1: be the mayor of the blackest city in America. It's
Speaker 1: like ninety percent black South Polks any one, And I
Speaker 1: think it really so. I think all of this there's
Speaker 1: very interesting implications for what this means about the state
Speaker 1: of politics where the electorate is at in Georgia. But
Speaker 1: I think this in particular, if we may take a
Speaker 1: moment to break it down. You know, he may not
Speaker 1: have run on explicitly like defund the police like platform,
Speaker 1: but you know he's wrapping that life. You know, a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, his democratic socialist ideas, couching those
Speaker 1: ideas in in in in in recular people understand about
Speaker 1: like supporting youth entrepreneurship and small businesses and more land
Speaker 1: ownership for the people. But like the fact that he
Speaker 1: was like a progressive, perhaps even a radical, you know,
Speaker 1: queer black man. Um It's like, you know, people try
Speaker 1: and say, oh, black people aren't down for that kind
Speaker 1: of ship. They're not, like, you know, radicalism of the
Speaker 1: sixties is over. But like he's he's proved that, ain't
Speaker 1: Is that what people are saying? I don't know, what
Speaker 1: do you think people are saying about where the black
Speaker 1: electorate is at. I don't know. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna front I I don't I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't really have a sense of like what they're saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. M Well, here's what I get. Often,
Speaker 1: I all a lot of people that I mean, to
Speaker 1: their credit, you know see that I I like sucking
Speaker 1: advanced degrees or whatever. You know, I like, I'm very articulate, negro, etcetera, etcetera,
Speaker 1: And so I have like black people like it's the
Speaker 1: black establishment oftentimes saying I don't know what to talk about.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about radical ship because like, oh you are
Speaker 1: you know, because because I'm white a five, by the
Speaker 1: fact that I've gone to school a great deal and
Speaker 1: I talk a certain way, etcetera, etcetera. Um, but these
Speaker 1: these radical ideas deals though, they generated in the black community,
Speaker 1: you know, Fred Hampton, Julie Newton, Angela Davis, Malcolm X,
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Jr. Like, Oh, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: the the it's the white left that's all about all
Speaker 1: that ship, and we don't really like that ship in
Speaker 1: our Here is what you know. People try to say
Speaker 1: sometimes when it's like Naba, the spirit of the of
Speaker 1: the sixties is alive today. Do you have a sense
Speaker 1: of why Do you have a sense of why that is?
Speaker 1: Because I mean you're saying that, like, yes, I get
Speaker 1: that same sense, But I mean, why is that. I
Speaker 1: don't understand why like in these times we would be
Speaker 1: maybe radical is not the right word for it, but
Speaker 1: why in the times that we're in now that we
Speaker 1: would be like lesser tentative to what's going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think what I'm about to say has implications
Speaker 1: for Atlanta, fl like Segway back into But like I
Speaker 1: think honestly, it's like you trust who shows up. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: you trust who shows up. Um. Alright, So like if
Speaker 1: you know, the black block of the electorate is treated
Speaker 1: as a foregone conclusion we're going to vote Democrat, people
Speaker 1: don't invest a lot of money in coming out to
Speaker 1: talk to us because they assume we're gonna vote for Bio,
Speaker 1: assume we're gonna vote rob assuming Love Kamala Harris and
Speaker 1: all the ship And that is then leaving round for
Speaker 1: you know, Republicans to come in. Let's say, for example,
Speaker 1: with you know, a parallel example like Bernie Sanders got
Speaker 1: seventy of the Latino vote. And it's not even necessarily
Speaker 1: because his ideas were like where they were in terms
Speaker 1: of the stuff they were even asked for. Is that
Speaker 1: his people showed up in their communities to knock on
Speaker 1: their doors, talk to them in Spanish, make sure their
Speaker 1: materials were in Spanish, and they were like, I like
Speaker 1: this guy. They showed up. I'm with that. And so
Speaker 1: bringing it background to Atlanta, I think that you know,
Speaker 1: Colleade and some of these other progressives that won the
Speaker 1: City Council with the backing of the Working Families Party,
Speaker 1: who as you said, put like six grands or six
Speaker 1: figures into these races and like, uh, resource them well
Speaker 1: enough to show up to go out and knock on
Speaker 1: the doors, to go out and have the conversations, etcetera
Speaker 1: that you know got got brought victory. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it amount of what kind
Speaker 1: of ideas you have. You gotta show up to talk
Speaker 1: to people. So that's what they did, I presume, and
Speaker 1: that's why they But um, let's see what else we got.
Speaker 1: Um so yes, so let's sorry. I these notes are
Speaker 1: like pretty so what so what were the main issues
Speaker 1: in that mayoral So yeah, so mayoral city couse campaigns.
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is mostly media driven. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean I I don't. I don't. I mean people
Speaker 1: in the community were probably concerned about crime. Carme was
Speaker 1: a number one issue, but that itself a stoked by
Speaker 1: the media. I mean, yes, people are victimized, people get
Speaker 1: their cars jacked or care gunshots like I'm scared, legit,
Speaker 1: valid feel the same. But you know, other people who
Speaker 1: don't actually um experience crime, but fear victimization it because
Speaker 1: they see on the news about the car and jacketings.
Speaker 1: They see on the news about shootings and about you
Speaker 1: know police, you know walking off the job doing the
Speaker 1: blue flu and going on strike and ship They're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, what are we gonna do? Can prime number
Speaker 1: one number one issue? It probably because of the media.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I mean, just as a as a devil's advocate,
Speaker 1: I think I think I would add the caveat to
Speaker 1: that that because the local media, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because I just just as as somebody who just consumes
Speaker 1: probably way too much cable national news, then a healthy
Speaker 1: person should. It's very much like when it it's referenced
Speaker 1: in national media. It's very much reference, like in a
Speaker 1: sort of a meta way, acknowledging that they're referencing these numbers,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I would imagine, because
Speaker 1: I don't watch a lot of local news, I would imagine,
Speaker 1: especially since some of these right wing companies have brought
Speaker 1: up a lot of these local news stations, I would
Speaker 1: imagine that the local news and a lot of towns
Speaker 1: is a fucking horror show. It is. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is very influential. There's very influential local Instagram accounts that like,
Speaker 1: it's like world Star, but they post videos alike yeah black, yeah,
Speaker 1: straight up. So they they're like, oh, look at these
Speaker 1: animals fighting each other and they get, you know, ten
Speaker 1: thousands of abuse. A counter example is that so in
Speaker 1: the major race, you had Andre Dickens and Felicia Moore.
Speaker 1: Felicia Moore was the city council president um and so
Speaker 1: Felia So Andre Dickens won in the runoff, He's gonna
Speaker 1: be the next mayor of Atlanta. But uh, Felicia Moore,
Speaker 1: who lost, accused rapper t I and producer Isaac Hayes
Speaker 1: the third of tanking her chances at winning right, spreading
Speaker 1: false claims that she was gonna shut down strip clubs
Speaker 1: and this and that, and like they said that in
Speaker 1: interviews with local gossip magazines. As the local gossip magazines
Speaker 1: picked up and they started, oh, Felicia More wants to
Speaker 1: chuck down the strip clubs. And I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's really true. But she was even saying
Speaker 1: that that's the reason she lost. I mean, who would
Speaker 1: they have been helping by messing up her ship? Somebody
Speaker 1: establishment or no. So let's be just a straight up oar. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, both of the mayoral candidates, including the winner, um,
Speaker 1: but you'll the candidates they met to the run off
Speaker 1: for pretty pro police. Um. Andre Dickens did vote for
Speaker 1: the Rachard Brooks Bill, which was a bill that came
Speaker 1: forward last summer that was to withhold half the police
Speaker 1: budget until they did certain reforms. It wasn't even to
Speaker 1: fund them. It's just like, let's not give them all
Speaker 1: their money right now until they do some ship. So
Speaker 1: he was getting hammered about that by like the rights
Speaker 1: and people, and so he came out saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've I've increased the police budget every year. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hire my officers. Of both of them, we're very pro
Speaker 1: pro cop um. So I can't remember where I was
Speaker 1: going with them. I got to my feelings. No, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, because who is the benefit benefit? Who
Speaker 1: is the benefit? That's why so ridiculous, Like because it's
Speaker 1: just like because you aren't good. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: just don't think that. And and this might be just
Speaker 1: like me getting more cynical, but I'm just I'm not
Speaker 1: really feeling that things are coincidences or accidents like that
Speaker 1: a lot, you know. I mean, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: give head the benefit of the doubt of like, yo,
Speaker 1: they're stupid, especially people who I don't think you're stupid.
Speaker 1: I don't think t you know. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: to your stupid, I think is kind of done. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't think. I don't think his daughter
Speaker 1: is junk for years to make sure that like I
Speaker 1: be in a creep. So okay, so t I he
Speaker 1: is a creep. Okay there, But when I say not,
Speaker 1: I just mean in the sense of like whether that
Speaker 1: had an effect on her election or not. I just
Speaker 1: don't see the act of him doing that in an
Speaker 1: election season, knowing that he at the bare minimum has
Speaker 1: the intelligence level that I believe him to have as
Speaker 1: being just a coincidence, you know what I mean. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was just you know, I was I was just
Speaker 1: getting interviewed and someone asked me a question. So I
Speaker 1: commented on this thing, you know. I mean, like that's
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna make anybody vote for
Speaker 1: anybody or make anybody not vote for motherfucker, but like
Speaker 1: that's gonna affect perception and public perception saying stuff if
Speaker 1: it's not true. It's one thing if it's true, but
Speaker 1: if it's not true, like if you just made that up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's way. Oh no, I don't know why you said it,
Speaker 1: but that's fine. So okay, so let's go back to you. Okay, sorry.
Speaker 1: So like yeah, so the coalitions I talk a little
Speaker 1: bit Andrew Dickens being like his PROCP stuff. So Felicia
Speaker 1: Moore started kind of like colluding with like Republicans and
Speaker 1: like racist white people that of in the really rich
Speaker 1: part of the city, a part of the city Buckhead
Speaker 1: that is trying to see to see it from Atlanta
Speaker 1: because they gotta like something like I like, you can't
Speaker 1: geographically distance from the black people, so at least they
Speaker 1: would literally just have to be like we're not We're
Speaker 1: not y'all anymore. Yeah. So she started like going to
Speaker 1: the Republican meetings and like Buckhead and getting their endorsement.
Speaker 1: They're sending out text for her. She even posted like
Speaker 1: a thing on Twitter, like, you know, talking about talking
Speaker 1: about a Moda Rvery's trial and how it's not real
Speaker 1: justice and then should never happened. She took it down.
Speaker 1: She got dragged by right wing people on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: she took it down. What wait, so is she like
Speaker 1: a so her whole coalition was like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: like no one else of the rain and candidates like
Speaker 1: reaching out to this like wealthy white uh the part
Speaker 1: of the electorate and you know, so I'm gonna fill
Speaker 1: up that space and that's how I'm gonna win in Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but frankly, she was only she was
Speaker 1: a front run front her pretty much before the runoff um,
Speaker 1: because everybody had voted for her to keep out cassim Read.
Speaker 1: You know about this Nigga. Cassim Read was the old
Speaker 1: old president of Atlanta. We're seceding from Georgia. We are
Speaker 1: in the state of Atlanta. Um so, so if he
Speaker 1: was an old mayor, I don't know, like maybe before
Speaker 1: kesh Land's bottoms, current mayor, hella corrupt, mad, federal corrept
Speaker 1: I know who you're talking about. I know you're talking
Speaker 1: about whole administration, super all of corrupt, like mad, sketchy, greasy,
Speaker 1: grimy and shit real bad. And so everybody voted for
Speaker 1: Felicia Moore to keep him from winning because he is
Speaker 1: the black Trump. And then they were like, oh, actually
Speaker 1: I like this bitch. Actually no, I'm saying it like
Speaker 1: na now that Christine Read isn't in there anymore, and
Speaker 1: you got worried about his greasy as actually this other
Speaker 1: cat nigd whearing like blazers and situation, They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we'll go for him anyway. So the mayoral race differed
Speaker 1: a lot from the city council races, and that everywhere else,
Speaker 1: you know, except for mayor, all the super pro cop
Speaker 1: candidates got bounced damn bounced. So yeah, do you have
Speaker 1: any theories for why, I like, the the crime awareness
Speaker 1: message didn't land Ard. I mean, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to say that, because the progressive one that it didn't land,
Speaker 1: but is there is there like what became of that
Speaker 1: message or that? Yeah, So I will answer that question
Speaker 1: with the question because I regularly say conflicting things about this.
Speaker 1: I think too, on one hand, that people are more
Speaker 1: motivated by love than fear, Like if you're not putting
Speaker 1: forward a positive, constructive vision of a city that you
Speaker 1: want and you're just fearmongering and talking how shitty everything is,
Speaker 1: like people are, people are just kind of like grossed
Speaker 1: out and turned off by that. I also disagree with that,
Speaker 1: and that, you know, when we talk about the mid
Speaker 1: terms in a second, the angry or people are the
Speaker 1: ones that are more motivated to get out and win.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm gonna put that back to
Speaker 1: you to ask. I don't know which one you think
Speaker 1: is more like legit, But I think this actually speaks
Speaker 1: to what I said the beginning is like who mobilizes
Speaker 1: versus who just coasts on their name recognition in their incumbency, Like,
Speaker 1: but I'm in this bitch, I'm good. What's up? Y'all
Speaker 1: know me. I've been in this bitch for twenty years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't going nowhere Versus the people who are like
Speaker 1: humble and like I'm gonna put in the footwork to
Speaker 1: get in there, you know, footwork winds. It's probably more true.
Speaker 1: But what do you think about the earlier thing? Do
Speaker 1: you think people are more motivated electorally by fear or love?
Speaker 1: Like I want to say love, because yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to say hope and change and love and all that
Speaker 1: stuff because it feels like the right thing to say.
Speaker 1: But I think Obama, you know, yeah, But I mean,
Speaker 1: we got Obama. There was fear involved in Obama. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Again, I had to pull out
Speaker 1: my old man pants and ship like that. But I
Speaker 1: have a few years on you, and you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And like, I mean, there was there. There
Speaker 1: was like a fear because we had just went through
Speaker 1: the eight years of Bush and fucking McCain was bringing
Speaker 1: on Sarah pale Um, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: it's like she was Trump before Trump was Trump. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. People were people were seeing that
Speaker 1: and they were hearing the things that she was saying.
Speaker 1: And then because she was on the ticket and start
Speaker 1: making John McCain, who obviously John Mcan's Republican is terrible
Speaker 1: whatever whatever, but he started saying stupid insane ship like
Speaker 1: as a result of having Sarah Palin on the ticket.
Speaker 1: Like I remember one thing that that stuck out really
Speaker 1: close is just because like I had friends who were
Speaker 1: fighting in the war and all that stuff that I remember.
Speaker 1: He was John McCain was at a rally or something
Speaker 1: like that after Sarah Palin had been brought on, and
Speaker 1: he was like singing to the crowd. There were there
Speaker 1: was he was making some point the crowd and he
Speaker 1: was like doing the Beach Boys song and he was
Speaker 1: like bom Bom Bom bom Bom I ran and they
Speaker 1: were like all laughing about it and ship and I
Speaker 1: remember being like what I was like maybe like like
Speaker 1: twenty one or something like that. At the time, It's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: these fucking Republicans are trying to make us go to
Speaker 1: war forever, you know what I'm saying. Like, so that fear,
Speaker 1: that palpable fear, was like, hey, hope and change, let's
Speaker 1: do it. Yes we can, Yes we can, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And so I think I think fear
Speaker 1: and even even when you don't think it's fear, there
Speaker 1: is a level of like, yo, I don't want I
Speaker 1: don't want them to win. Now that obviously, I would
Speaker 1: imagine that changes from person to person. There's obviously like
Speaker 1: a contingent of people who that doesn't motivate them at all,
Speaker 1: because really it is like some lizard brain thinking, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, be scared vote for this person.
Speaker 1: There is there is that element to it and ship
Speaker 1: like that. So you know, definitely kudos to those who
Speaker 1: can rise above it. But you know, I gotta admit
Speaker 1: my lizard brain still does come into play when it
Speaker 1: comes to election seasons and ship like that. So it's like,
Speaker 1: even when I don't feel motivated or if I'm not
Speaker 1: excited about something, it's it's usually a good motivating factor
Speaker 1: to me personally to think about Damn well, I definitely
Speaker 1: don't want those. Yeah, And I'm starting to assess my
Speaker 1: own like political leanings and like what for example, dream
Speaker 1: me to Bernie Sanders, and Bernie Sanders had like the
Speaker 1: United against common enemy the billionaires like, and so it
Speaker 1: really was also like not like not a fear, but
Speaker 1: like hatred but yeah, the billionaires. Yeah that's right, Uncle Bernie. Like,
Speaker 1: so I mean maybe that is more true than like,
Speaker 1: oh I like your constructive vision for the society. How
Speaker 1: many how many progressives were like, legit scared of Hillary Clinton?
Speaker 1: You know, no, but I mean I don't mean it scared.
Speaker 1: I don't mean scared is in the literal like, yo,
Speaker 1: does she like scare you? But I just mean, like
Speaker 1: when Bernie, like part of Bernie's rise to prominence is
Speaker 1: opposition to Hillary Clinton and the establishment that she represented,
Speaker 1: you know, and fighting the establishment and do that and
Speaker 1: we wanted in that fight came from like, yo, I
Speaker 1: don't know what these motherfucker's are gonna do. Like you
Speaker 1: you literally you had you had a bunch of had
Speaker 1: a bunch to people on the left really like truly
Speaker 1: fucking who whose brains turned to mash potatoes for like
Speaker 1: a good two years When we're thinking and so, gee,
Speaker 1: I really think Donald Trump is anti war and Hillary
Speaker 1: clin is gonna go to war, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And like they really like just because of their fear
Speaker 1: of what they thought Hillary would do, they were like
Speaker 1: willing to like give Donald Trump the benefit of the
Speaker 1: doubt uncertain ship. So fear is definitely a motivating factor.
Speaker 1: M one side is better at playing on it. But
Speaker 1: that's that more so goes because the people who follow
Speaker 1: that are just more prone to following their fears and
Speaker 1: being guided by their fears and their fear of the
Speaker 1: unknown and fears and what they don't know, what they
Speaker 1: don't understand. But you know, I think I think us
Speaker 1: on our on our our side definitely were susceptible to it,
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, and in this case, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I say, I would say, like it's fear, and then
Speaker 1: it's really hard as an incumbent generally to like defend
Speaker 1: your ship when like where the world stays bad, I
Speaker 1: would argue because of capitalism. So like if you're progressive
Speaker 1: or you're conservative or whatever, if you're a fucking flying monkey,
Speaker 1: and like after four years, like shi, it's not better,
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody don't care? They don't kick your asks the
Speaker 1: curb because it's not better because it's but so hard
Speaker 1: to I mean, like, like I advocate people to get
Speaker 1: involved at the local level, but actually I mean, frankly,
Speaker 1: there's only so much we could do. But I mean,
Speaker 1: so in this case, like Cleto Winslow, who got beaten
Speaker 1: by Jason Doger had been in office twenty eight years
Speaker 1: and if like he didn't really have to even like
Speaker 1: put it forward like a constructive positive message or in
Speaker 1: stoked beer. All he had to do was go say,
Speaker 1: I don't think how the poward things going. Do you
Speaker 1: like what's happening? Do you like do you think the
Speaker 1: city is better? And if you don't, it's like I
Speaker 1: like that. Nickels like, yeah, I'm not a very nice
Speaker 1: young man, um and so yeah, I mean, uh, it's
Speaker 1: just really interesting that all these cats were sucking pro
Speaker 1: Cop like Jackie's a bot was the sheriff's wife, the
Speaker 1: wife of the sheriff of Fulton County who has been
Speaker 1: fighting to like keep the Fultone County Jail open, even
Speaker 1: after they secured an agreement to like close the Phone
Speaker 1: County Jail. She was running for city council low key
Speaker 1: to like to protect her husband's job security of sheriff,
Speaker 1: you know, and she got her ass kicked. Uh Cleyo
Speaker 1: Winslow super pro Cop got her as kick. They had
Speaker 1: an episode on Cops City a couple of my guests
Speaker 1: a month or two ago. But like the lady who
Speaker 1: Chant who like the author of Cops City and was
Speaker 1: pushing for that ship boom gone, fuck you Joyce Shephard
Speaker 1: out of here. So it's interesting that like a mixture
Speaker 1: of these things, the footwork, the fact that she's not
Speaker 1: really better, and so like the incumbents just don't stand
Speaker 1: a chance, Like here we are more progressive city council
Speaker 1: and let it. Oh no, my cat's gonna eat my pizza.
Speaker 1: No go save it. We had a roach killings, We
Speaker 1: got cats eating pizza. What other show are you gonna hear?
Speaker 1: Roach killings and cats eating pizza? It's waiting on reparation.
Speaker 1: It had anchovies on it. But like, I don't even
Speaker 1: blame the A little dude. All right, let me see
Speaker 1: if I could get some of your like analysis on
Speaker 1: the situation. Is this something that is particular to perhaps
Speaker 1: the demographics of where some of these candidates were running,
Speaker 1: or is it something particular to the time that we're
Speaker 1: in or the state that Georgia is in politically? Like,
Speaker 1: is this something? Is this something that that democrats? Is
Speaker 1: this something that you feel that that democrats buy at large,
Speaker 1: whether they be neo liberal or whatever, can pay attention
Speaker 1: to and kind of learn some strategies from things that
Speaker 1: were done in these Georgia elections to not feel the
Speaker 1: need to be in the center or absolutely absolutely, people
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, you know, the South Georgia is
Speaker 1: gonna go down just like Virginia. Well, motherfucker, I doubt
Speaker 1: that Virginia has a percent voter registration rate. Georgians are
Speaker 1: now registered to vote, largely thanks to Staty Abrahams New
Speaker 1: Georgia Project fair fight well with the other one, Yes, well,
Speaker 1: New Georgia Project, New Georgia mostly um. And so it's
Speaker 1: like putting in the footwork. They actually talk to people.
Speaker 1: So then you think that's the key, Then that's that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what Georgia more, you know, unique among like newly
Speaker 1: blue states is that you know, we put in the
Speaker 1: footwork to register voters, to engage voters, to you know,
Speaker 1: to actually just go talk to people. Like I said,
Speaker 1: whoever shows up wins, and Democrats been showing up two
Speaker 1: or you know, like low key democratic but nonpartistan organization
Speaker 1: has been showing up to like get people involved. And
Speaker 1: so that's the formula. I mean, granted, it's easy to do,
Speaker 1: like when in the runoffs last year, you know, or
Speaker 1: fu earlier this year Jesus Christ for the Senate, like
Speaker 1: you had niggas, it was like a billion dollars put
Speaker 1: into the state set pay people don't knock on doors.
Speaker 1: They had postcards from Arizona, Milwaukee, New Hampshire, Nigga's right,
Speaker 1: and like, hey, don't forget to and then put in
Speaker 1: your absentee you know all the ship it doesn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty unique fiscal situation, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: and not everybody got the got the bag like that,
Speaker 1: but um, we do we put in the forwork. I
Speaker 1: think that's it. I think that's you know what's happening
Speaker 1: in the state of Georgia. The playbook that's brought us
Speaker 1: to this moment both in Atlanta and like I think,
Speaker 1: like like Challengers beat and come across the state, Warner
Speaker 1: Robbins got their first black female mayor and ship like
Speaker 1: all over the state, this has been true. So what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Stacy's announcement? Bro, I think we
Speaker 1: have to do a whole nother fucking episode on this
Speaker 1: because we've been rambling about landing for old you know,
Speaker 1: so me and we may have come back to this,
Speaker 1: but I will say that, um coming, but we all
Speaker 1: knew it's gonna happen. We knew it. We knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna be for something. I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: have my post my yard signed up on my wall.
Speaker 1: Fucking took that ship down, put it up in the yard.
Speaker 1: The same night. I was like, let's go. It's very
Speaker 1: clear that you know, she announced because the energy was
Speaker 1: high among Democrats across the state because we're running things,
Speaker 1: winning things. So she was like, all right, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's fucking rock y'all, y'all, y'all think, y'all hype. Now,
Speaker 1: let's get hype baby. So, like you know, so here
Speaker 1: we are, she's running for governor. If she pulls it off.
Speaker 1: How old is Stacey Abrams? Do you know old enough? Huh?
Speaker 1: I mean well, I just I mean because I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of the future, because I mean, yeah, if Stacy Abrams
Speaker 1: was able to pull that ship off, like after like
Speaker 1: on top of everything that she's already done, she's able
Speaker 1: to win, you become the next governor of Georgia. I
Speaker 1: think she will be president one day. Oh yeah, she's
Speaker 1: been said she want to president. Yeah. I just I
Speaker 1: just think that's gonna solidify, Like I think that will
Speaker 1: just make it inevitable. I think so, I think, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: so so quick like point of order for us, not
Speaker 1: for on the recording. We have been recording for maybe
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes we have Okay, I think we think
Speaker 1: we started at like eleven. So that's why I said, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we might have to do another episode on this because
Speaker 1: we that's already talked about a ton of ship. Let's
Speaker 1: transition into the break and then let's come back and
Speaker 1: let's listen to one song for music discussion off all right,
Speaker 1: So um so yeah, like like quick thoughts, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do another episode of Stacy Abrams alone.
Speaker 1: But just generally speaking, you know, with this happening and
Speaker 1: it's so fresh in our minds, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Do you think this means anything affects anything with the
Speaker 1: mid terms or not? Because the poll recently came came
Speaker 1: out that shows Democrats pretty much getting trouped in just
Speaker 1: about every category, whether you want to talk about these
Speaker 1: bullshit cultural issues or even down to like the economics
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but they're getting hammered. So so
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that drawing off of what what
Speaker 1: I've been talking about earlier about footwork, the question is
Speaker 1: whether or not progressive footwork can out it overcome, overcome,
Speaker 1: like the disatisfaction among the electorate that like, other than
Speaker 1: the child tax credit, which my ass is gonna be
Speaker 1: getting in January with South or in about some month,
Speaker 1: I'm buying some shoes some Jordan's not just getting them
Speaker 1: buying baby formula. But um, you know, that's the only
Speaker 1: thing that people are gonna feel between now and She's
Speaker 1: like build back better agenda, roads and bridges and ship
Speaker 1: and they know that that you're coming until pretty much
Speaker 1: so people who haven't seen the you know, reaped what
Speaker 1: has been sown by Biden and his in his ilk.
Speaker 1: So people aren't happy, people aren't gonna turn out. And
Speaker 1: also the issue of just like the people who are
Speaker 1: more piste off generate more mobilization and then they win.
Speaker 1: It just swings back and forth there in the mid terms,
Speaker 1: the party and power get their asses whooped, and it's
Speaker 1: just how it goes. I honestly, I'm just anticipating that
Speaker 1: that's just probably what's gonna happen. His historically has happened.
Speaker 1: One thing that might help in the Democrats favor. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, this is we're talking about
Speaker 1: patterns that are political patterns that are set by historical
Speaker 1: precedent going back like sixty years. So there's a there's
Speaker 1: an amount of it that's inevitable and ship Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry, I'm so sorry. I gotta do this, but
Speaker 1: I just found out that the local sheriff's department near
Speaker 1: half of Georgia just posted an opening for their communications director,
Speaker 1: which to me says I got him shook. Yeah, somebody left.
Speaker 1: When they left, I don't know what happened. Maybe they
Speaker 1: got tired of dealing with us, or maybe they didn't
Speaker 1: have one and now they feel that they do. We
Speaker 1: feel like they got to like, yeah, he's winning the
Speaker 1: public narrative, she's winning the battle of hearts and mines.
Speaker 1: Like what we don't do? We can't just kill her, gemmy.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. We gotta come back to talking about
Speaker 1: the mid terms, all right. So there's an amount of
Speaker 1: that that is inevitable. It's gonna happen because of those
Speaker 1: are the patterns and stuff. But we can't overlook the
Speaker 1: fact that you know, in a day, two days, three days,
Speaker 1: maybe a week, like the Supreme Court very much could
Speaker 1: overturn Roe v. Wade. And if they do that, in
Speaker 1: these challenges start coming in, those ships are not going
Speaker 1: to start coming in until around mid terms. Okay, So
Speaker 1: if the backdrop of the mid terms is like the act,
Speaker 1: the actual like court struggle about like Roe v. Wade,
Speaker 1: that could be part of that fear that motivated fear
Speaker 1: factor that we were talking about. On the degree I
Speaker 1: mean to that, I will say, maybe not game changing,
Speaker 1: but it could be game changing. Um could also be
Speaker 1: that low income and like brack and black and brown
Speaker 1: women have barely been able to get abortions anyway, That's
Speaker 1: how I would frame it, because it's like, because that's
Speaker 1: what it is, because like I can't take a day
Speaker 1: off work to drive to al to pay five dollars
Speaker 1: to like not have to have a baby, Like I
Speaker 1: I can't get childcare for my other three kids to
Speaker 1: go down here and do this. I don't have a car.
Speaker 1: I can't make it there. So like abortion is already
Speaker 1: illegal for like tons of people in a certain sense,
Speaker 1: like abortion is inaccessible to tons of people. So I
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be motivated to come out
Speaker 1: and vote by that. Frankly, so unfortunately, unfortunately, yeah, yeah, question,
Speaker 1: I'm the question again. I'm saying and like, can the
Speaker 1: footwork overcome people's satisfaction with the Democratic Party right now?
Speaker 1: So a lot of people, um, you know, Latasha Brown,
Speaker 1: CEO of Black Voters Matter, UM, others have talked about
Speaker 1: feeling like they got thrown over under the bus by
Speaker 1: the Biden administration because they refused to boss the filibuster
Speaker 1: and pass voting rights legislation. Uh. And they're they're counting
Speaker 1: on us to do the footwork to overcome um voter suppression.
Speaker 1: Brandon additional fact of interest is that the turner the
Speaker 1: Allanta elections that we were just talking about was up
Speaker 1: even though they had just passed that vote. Is sup
Speaker 1: pressure ship We talked about an episode a couple of
Speaker 1: back months a month back, so, UM, who knows is
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying this is the voter suppression?
Speaker 1: Really that well? I mean, or was it something to
Speaker 1: scare people into coming out to vote for by Like
Speaker 1: I really freaked out about it. I think I think
Speaker 1: that I think that that sort of you, while valid,
Speaker 1: I think that downplays the work that Stacey A rooms
Speaker 1: that No, not at all, Like I think it's just
Speaker 1: like something It's just this has been a project that
Speaker 1: she's been working on for like four or five years,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So perhaps she's built it
Speaker 1: up to where it's kind of as far as Georgia's concerned.
Speaker 1: Maybe that grassroots effort in the footwork that you put
Speaker 1: in makes it kind of voter suppression proof. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: So that little just an indicator of how this could
Speaker 1: go in the mid terms, and that if the footwork
Speaker 1: is enough to overcome voter depression. Indeed, then perhaps is
Speaker 1: the footwork enough to bring it turn out in the
Speaker 1: mid terms and ship y'all think it's better just let
Speaker 1: these Republicans win, y'all. If y'all, if y'all overcome their
Speaker 1: voter suppression, they're about to bring slavery backs like it
Speaker 1: didn't work, bring out the chains. We can't let these
Speaker 1: thinkus vote. Thank you, get out your guns and swarm
Speaker 1: the capitals, all the capitals. We tried to make the
Speaker 1: lines eight hours long and they still came out and voted. Goddamnit.
Speaker 1: Jim Crows coming back. Yeah all right, Um, that's what
Speaker 1: we got for today. Uh, next week we are so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got we're gonna have when we come back from
Speaker 1: the break. We're gonna have a music discussion. But just
Speaker 1: before we get back getting that. When we come back
Speaker 1: next week, we are going to be doing our episode
Speaker 1: on Dick Gregory. Going to be kind of a deep
Speaker 1: dive into the life of Dick Gregory life and times,
Speaker 1: talk about his activism, his career, his meaning is impact
Speaker 1: American culture and just black culture in general. Um and yeah,
Speaker 1: well we're gonna be back since we're talking about Georgia elections,
Speaker 1: we are going to talk about a Georgia song when
Speaker 1: we come back, So we'll be back with that after
Speaker 1: the job. All right, ladies and gentlemen, you gotta say
Speaker 1: they're gonna cough, let it out. I'd get it out
Speaker 1: your shirt. You what are you doing? You gotta giving
Speaker 1: me strong Jim Carrey vibes right now, like the faces
Speaker 1: and like the sounds. Anyway, welcome back to waiting on reparations.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting. I'm seeing the doctor because I'm coughing a
Speaker 1: great deal. All right. So you know, like I said
Speaker 1: before we got a break, we're talking about the Georgia elections.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk about a Georgia song from
Speaker 1: back in the day. I posted up that link. You
Speaker 1: see that This is uh, it's the last link on
Speaker 1: the So this is a tract by Ludicrous featuring Field
Speaker 1: Mob and Jamie Fox. It is called Georgia. Y'all remember
Speaker 1: this ship. This is like two thousand six. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like some of y'all's closes closes way
Speaker 1: too baggy. You remember what you know what? It was,
Speaker 1: rest my Georgia. Bold com anywhere on my land and
Speaker 1: I'll aim at Georgia. Remember this, And it's got the
Speaker 1: sample right, yeah, the the Ray Charles sample. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Ray Charles sample. But because it was back just back
Speaker 1: when Jamie Fox played uh Ray Charles and the Ray movie.
Speaker 1: So like of course they had to. They had the
Speaker 1: they had the Ray Charles sample. They got Jamie Fox
Speaker 1: to actually say get instead of sampling Ray far y'all
Speaker 1: can't see it going. Uh so yeah, ludle Cris Georgia.
Speaker 1: You know, Ludacris is one of the artists that I
Speaker 1: always felt like repped super hard for Georgia and just
Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta in general. You I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember. He had another one back in two
Speaker 1: thousand two called Welcome to Atlanta, had Jermaine Dupris on it.
Speaker 1: And Nelly. If you go up to the Atlanta Airport,
Speaker 1: they got a big gass like glowing banner, like electronic banner.
Speaker 1: When you're coming up the escalator has got ludicrous face
Speaker 1: on it. It's like welcome to Atlanta. Yeah yeah, de ass.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about What do you think
Speaker 1: about that? I think it's beautiful. I think I love
Speaker 1: the particularities. I love that they're like, yo, I'm out
Speaker 1: down at all the name, I'm wrapping for the Yellow
Speaker 1: Jackets and George the tech good Current turned up greens
Speaker 1: and color greens and you know, go dogs like it's cute.
Speaker 1: It's cute. I like the cultural you know, like signs.
Speaker 1: I mean, you ever disrespect will clean out your dirty
Speaker 1: mouth something the dirty South, like yeah, all that ship
Speaker 1: is dope, man, I mean I I like it. You know.
Speaker 1: Hip hop I think is always at its best when
Speaker 1: it's got that personal vibe to it. And there's nothing
Speaker 1: more personal when when you're rapping than either talking about
Speaker 1: your family or the city that you're from. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, it's like it usually if
Speaker 1: you're dealing with good m c s, there's always gonna
Speaker 1: be like a sort of personal touch that somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to put on that hometown song, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, to make it unique to them. So
Speaker 1: I feel like this track, everybody kind of went in
Speaker 1: on it with their style, but you know, like the
Speaker 1: subject matter all everyone having the same topic of what
Speaker 1: they were talking about and it being something that's so
Speaker 1: personal to everyone, you know, like as far as where
Speaker 1: they're from. Man, this, I mean, this ship still bumps.
Speaker 1: Today's out there when North Carolina about Peter Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly,
Speaker 1: great anthems for a state, Yeah, no one or like
Speaker 1: even um, do you want to get something a little
Speaker 1: bit more poppy, like New York State of Mind or
Speaker 1: Empire state of Mind with a jay Z and very
Speaker 1: different New York, Yeah, very different, but one is like
Speaker 1: the grimy realness. The other ones like paid for by
Speaker 1: the New York Tourism bureauth. I forget if it was
Speaker 1: you or if it was me, but one of us
Speaker 1: made the point that it was like, oh, like Empire
Speaker 1: state of Mind is kind of like that's the song
Speaker 1: that you use in like the official City of New York,
Speaker 1: like commercial or ad or something like that. We're getting
Speaker 1: blown by, like Elmo in the Little Elmo costume outside
Speaker 1: of the eminem Store. I don't mean this in a
Speaker 1: negative way, but I feel like that the Georgia song,
Speaker 1: the Ludicrous Georgia song that we just listened to, is
Speaker 1: that same sort of way. Like it feels like if
Speaker 1: you had like cool people on city council or meat
Speaker 1: or a cool beard, that'd be like, yeah, let's use
Speaker 1: that for the Welcome to Georgia commercial. Let's use that song.
Speaker 1: I like that. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, that is all
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