WEBVTT - Furious Footwork 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.600 You are now listening to waiting on reparations the production 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:13.240 of I Heart Radio. Yo, yo yo, what's good my people? 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:18.279 I am dope knife, I am extremely tired, and we 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:23.320 are we've been waiting to goddamn long for reparations, get 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:28.080 my bro. But alright, so let's let's let's let's just 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.479 pick it up and get right into it. So we 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.960 you know, we've been really good, as our executive producer 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.320 has been getting us to to be a lot more 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.360 prompt when we're recording these, but we have gone back 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.760 to our bullshit and we are on one of those 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:48.560 late night sessions and you just got our City Hall. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.960 I don't even like these. I just got out of 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.360 a Christmas party from the day job. I'm fucking I 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.640 got I got a few with me. I'm feeling good, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.720 all right, So tell us a about the city Hall 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.080 meeting that bro. So, I just got home from city Hall. 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.280 It's our last volting meeting of the year, and there 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.200 are several contentious issues on the agenda. For months, for 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.400 months or a year, we've been working on an eviction 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.160 defense program to keep people from getting kicked out of 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:16.720 their house and they lost their job or got sick 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:21.200 because of COVID, etcetera. Um, we finally passed it tonight. Um. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.760 But interestingly, like d c A and the Department of 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.240 Community Affairs of Georgia, like they've started, you know, giving 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.600 out millions of dollars to communities that had a program 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:35.360 like this already. Yeah, and we didn't for various reasons, 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.000 mostly obvious reasons. People have been staling. People have been 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.880 stalling it, stalling it, stalling it. And so I am 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.080 so thankful that finally, you know, all these families that 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.920 you know been hit me up like yo, what I'm 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:50.920 I'm living in the back of you hall whatever, Like 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.840 what we're gonna do? You can get some help. Um, 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:55.560 it's unfortunate that it's so late, but that happened to 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.920 night we approved um contract and funding for a safe 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.600 place for the homeless folk to sleep. So how long 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.960 exactly have you been working on it? So eviction prevention 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.560 literally probably a year to the day YouTube in the 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.519 programs like this exists in Guenda County. Yeah, because I 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.120 mean we were we were talking about eviction mortary moratariums 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.600 like a year ago and still at it. We still 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.240 had it. Yeah. No, So finally and then and it 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.480 speaks as well. I mean, yes, people stalled it and 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.000 that was very unfortunate. But in general, like the time 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.560 scales in which we have to understand, like policy unfolds 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.120 are so long, Like just generally the gears of government 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.639 just turned so slowly, like a year to pull off 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.240 a program. It's like it's like a it's like a 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.680 very modest amount of time. Frankly, well, I don't I 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:44.600 don't want to get like two into the weeds with 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.440 let's go, but like, okay, so just I mean, anybody 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.560 who's a regular listener to this show, they will have 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:55.359 heard the like they will they will know how often 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.320 you're in city Hall obviously a year and elected officials, 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.079 so they know that, Like you've been working on this 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.880 for a year, like you just said it. So what 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.239 is it exactly? You know, if you guys are meeting 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.240 up so much, right and y'all are discussing these things 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.520 in these issues, what is it exactly that makes a 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.680 project like this take a year to do? Yeah, Like 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.880 like like is it is? It isn't? And I don't 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.240 want to characterize us in the in like the unfair 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.760 ware whatever, but it's like, is the progress that's made 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.239 from day to day and meeting the meeting. Is it 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.920 like that small that or that minute of a thing 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.560 that it takes that duration of time or do things 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.720 get snagged up and just in the sauce or or 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.080 what so? Yeah, I'll say two things about that. Firstly, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:49.960 like a lot of our trouble and particularly implementing innovative 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.480 solutions things like fair free public transportation, or like a 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.280 safe place for homeless people to sleep, um or they 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:01.360 won't be criminalized living outdoors like we have. We have 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.200 to do two things. We have to Oftentimes, if we're 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.800 you're dealing with federal funding, they have so many hurdles 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.440 that we have to jump through in order to ensure compliance. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.640 Who's your accountant, you getting insurance from, what's your you know, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.080 the line of credit, what's your background doing this? All 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.240 this stuff that just like if you chop up all 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.880 those little parts each take like a week to work through, 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.720 and so you're looking at weeks and weeks and weeks 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.480 and um so yeah, there's that to it, and I 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.640 guess to agree to a degree to your um your 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:36.320 second question, um, yeah, Ultimately, like because we move in 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.840 such slow motion, you know you can see all the 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.240 like you know, slow motion rainstorm. You see all the 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.760 individual droplets like as they hit the ground, and that's 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.680 kind of like those little individual droplets of what we 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.400 traffick in. It's like, okay, let's put push this a 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.520 ford a little bit, a little bit, and over time 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:52.960 it adds up. I brought up fair fee public transportation. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.720 People have been fighting for that for ten years and 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.440 we just did it. And so it's just like all 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.560 the little droplets slow motion smash no ground and finally, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.360 like you can see like the time speeds up and 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.640 finally see like, oh snap, it's right and what's up. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.600 So then so okay, and then then I'm gonna ask 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.479 this and I kind of already know what your acts 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.120 is gonna be. All right. So if like the average 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.880 person is looking at this and they're thinking, man, this 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.479 is taken too long. These people are just full of ship. 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:23.920 They just need to hurry up and do these things, 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.760 you being on the inside and seeing the way this 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.840 gets this goes down, doesn't give you more of an 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.200 understanding of like, no, I understand why it takes this long, 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.280 or are you on the same line of Bill, this 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.360 is bullshit that should be going faster. I mean part 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:38.960 of me it's like, yo, this is bullshit, Like this 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.080 should be going faster. Um. There is a part in 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.560 which like you you die a hero, you live long 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.000 enough to become the village, or like I find myself 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.440 being like wait, you guys, I promise we're working on it, 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.400 and like ending the government, which, like the activists and me, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.280 like my heart just tears into tiny type pieces every 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.920 time I have to do it for this real ship though, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:00.719 I mean I don't even want to say that's real ship, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.960 but I mean, is it? Is it real ship? Is it? 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.560 Like the activist part of you wants to be like nah, 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.560 but the politician part is like nah. There's kind of 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.680 a reason why it's And it's really hard to like 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:12.400 moderate that because I gotta like stand up for the 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.920 people and be like you, right, this is bullshit, and 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.920 like yell but like staff, they're like trying their hardest 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.040 know what to do, and I don't doesn't help If 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.160 you yell at them, they're gonna just break out more 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.880 and do it worse. Um. And so there's also like 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.280 you know, trying to have grace for them, trying to 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.480 convey to the public wild things take too long. And 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:30.920 then something else I want to say on your first part, 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.120 why stuff takes so long? Because you know, the Homeless 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.120 Safe Site is being run by like a like a 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.200 black nonprofit that's very grassroots, very just like in the 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.200 thick of it, no paperwork, no, like they just kind 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.200 of flying to see their pants. But like start of 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.920 the pandemic, when everybody was scared to hug each other, 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.280 they were going out into the forest to bring hot 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:56.040 plates of food to the homeless people. You remember when 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.400 I went out there with them maybe and like brought 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.920 the plates and we sat up there. Yeah. And so 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.040 like when you when you're working with an organization that 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:08.400 historically has not just worked just hasn't worked with black people. Um, 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.480 you know, when these organizations have not had the resources 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:15.480 or the institutional support to do large scale work, there's 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:19.640 gonna be like intercultural communication problems. Like it's not that 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.240 it's not like malice that like our staff doesn't know 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.400 how to communicate to these people, or these people don't 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.160 know how to communicate staff. It's just like no one 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:31.680 has had too before. It's naived almost rather than like maliciousness. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.520 And so that's why stuff takes so long when you 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.880 try to like, all right, we finally go smatch down 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.720 the doors and get some black people in here, get 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.760 some money to like do this work. It's gonna take 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.800 a long time because we have never done that before. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.520 I don't know how. So yes, that's the the why, 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.440 the reason why things take long. But okay, so so 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:53.480 if it it took long, we got done. But this 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:59.360 is not even the only thing. But yeah, so for 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.160 weight there us more so safe Side got passed. The 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.920 Victim Defense Program got passed. So we also, uh were 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:12.840 asked to reapprove federal funding for the Northeast Georgia Regional 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.040 Narcotics Task Force, which I for year after year I've 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.720 been critical love and I voted for the last year 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.840 I put an amendments that alright to sell podcasts for 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.960 we da dadaa. And this year is like, no, what 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:28.080 fucking nope, I ain't doing the fil mode. So I 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.520 published an off ed a couple of days ago. You 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.280 can go you can do you search me on like 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.120 social media. I'm right for Athens. You can go find 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.680 and read it. It was very spicy, very spicy talking 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.560 about the history of this grant, and it's delaterious effects 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:46.160 on black communities and some public health solutions that are better. Um, 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.520 including So one of the spicy spicy things about it, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.559 how to go, how to go. So one of the 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:53.280 spice you think about it is like I took it 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:54.840 all the way back to the source, like where does 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.480 the grant come from? Where the drug war come from? 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:02.439 And I referenced in Lee at Water famous Republican strategists 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.520 working under Monald Reagan said you remember the ship. Yes, 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.599 So he was like, you say nigger, nigger, nigger, but 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.839 you cant say nigger anymore, so you say it was 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:20.520 it was actually it was Nixon, not Reagan. Oh well yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:26.840 um yeah he was. He pretty much spilled the beans 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:31.000 on the Southern strategy that right, yes, yes, employed so, 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.920 um yeah, it's it's a famous recording. As a matter 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.680 of fact, if I can find a find a non 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.040 cover written, yeah, we'll play it on it. But he 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:46.120 pretty much runs down how esoteric that the Republican Party 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.160 got with the racism, you know what I mean, but 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.719 expresses such a deliberate nous behind it that it's just 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.679 and so like you know, that's when the strategies like 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.600 the drug war came Bronx. You can't say nigger nigger anymore. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.040 You can say we gotta get tough one crime and 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.400 catch criminals. So I went into it. I laid out 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.800 the facts, but these motherfucker's criminology, public health reason why 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.000 this is all bullshit. We need to do things new way. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.880 Well police Trape wasn't too happy about that. Um sent 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.360 me like a five page rebuttle earlier today he was 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.760 big bad, just lost it. Apparently it's feeling for a 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:24.600 real hurt um the A local journalist called his response extraordinary, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:29.320 if not unprecedented. UM So, anyway, I went off all 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.439 these motherfucker's like, Yo, this is what it's this is 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.319 what's really really rude. Right now, y'all go, y'all go 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.880 and mindlessly perpet your way Reagan's legacy. Y'all gonna take 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.679 lea Water's advice, like what's good? What's popping? You know? 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:46.280 What is funny? Just you mentioned in that, but like 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.920 something that I just feel didn't get enough pressed. But 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:55.719 do you recall that about a year ago they uncovered 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.600 some Reagan tapes having a conversation with somebody with oh yeah, 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.760 he's being like hella rasing like, hell, I want to 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.440 meet with like the leaders of these after African countries. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:12.559 Feet yeah, yo yo, niggas said dirty feet something like that. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.679 I don't quote me. It was something about their feet, 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.920 you know, I know, I know what you mean it was. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.719 It was just like it was some stereotypy. It was 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.800 like some beyond plausible deniability ship. And I just felt 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.720 like I just felt like that kind of went under 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:33.040 the radar. So, you know, just just something. I feel 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:34.640 like all the way they pull it out tape left 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.199 and right, left and right, left and right. I know 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.760 Bill Clinton has now been implicated in the Gelaan Maxwell trial, 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:41.480 or maybe like do you want some ship with some 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:46.520 underage kids? Which I don't find surprising. Um, the receipts, 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.240 all the receipts. Trump is trying to start a constitutional crisis, 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.439 so nobody can find the fucking log records of anything 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.520 that was said during this time of Can you imagine 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.400 I think we've said something about this in the last episode, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.360 but can you imagine how many niggas was flying around 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:07.000 Pupil's vows in the Trump White House? Like for real, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.520 like you're telling me, you're telling me. The Steve Bannon wasn't. 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:15.360 It wasn't thrown around the N word word. So what 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.240 are we what are you talking about today? I'm sorry, 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.160 I'm sorry. We were just riffing a ship, which you know, 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.080 you're talking about Trump and a constitutional crisis. Maybe think 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:28.600 about Matt Gates coming out today. Then if the GOP 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:33.760 wins the House back, they're gonna try to put Trump 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.960 in and Speaker of the House. I don't know how 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.280 much I buy that, but I think we can just 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.920 take that as like as as validation that they're gonna 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:50.080 do all sorts of crazy ship. Yeah, I'm gonna say 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.120 when they win the House back, I want to say if. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.640 But you know, which brings us to our topic to today. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.040 So last week we had runoff elections in municipal races 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:05.360 across Georgia and results were pretty good for progressive and 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.600 so UM. And then we also had Stacy Abraham's announced 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.640 for governor for the Democratic Party, David Purdue, former Senator 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.959 of Georgia, announced for a governor on Republican side. And 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.960 so we're gonna talk about what happened last week as 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.400 well as what might go down just looking at like, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.880 you know, what are these results mean for the year 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.760 to come, if anything, etcetera, etcetera. We're gonna get into 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.160 all that after the jump. But first, but I need 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.280 to know about this Christmas party it went down, so 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.040 I would I can tell you had a gleam in 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.480 your eye, all right? So okay, So like you know, 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.160 I do this podcast and I wrap and that's you know, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.560 more or less for the most parts, how brother makes 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.120 it goes. But let's keep it real, you know, and 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.360 then you gotta get a regular jailb So at the 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.679 j ob we had this Christmas party and you know, 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.679 the the jig is up and the word is out. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.559 Oh man, do you guys know that mac maps? I 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.120 heard the Max a really good rapper, Like that ship's 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.719 going on, right. So we have the Christmas party. The 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.640 bosses are like, hey, do you wanna you know, we're 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.040 like every First of all, they like broke it up 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.520 into pieces, like somebody who's there's a girl there who 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.400 does stand up comedy and she did like a roast 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.360 of everybody. It was pretty funny. They had like a 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.200 magician come in and he did like some David Blade 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.840 magic tricks that I gotta say, what happened? He didn't 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.880 cut a girl in half. But he was doing something 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.720 like he was doing something like pulling a bowling ball 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.720 out of like a paper thin briefcase type ship like 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.320 but I was standing like two feet from him and 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.040 seeing it. So as far as I'm concerned, Nick is 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:42.720 a wizard, you know what I mean? Like it was 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.320 that crazy. If you did that, you had a couple 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.200 of drinks and maybe something else in this was before 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.720 the drinks. No, but the Magic Tricks was before the drinks. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.280 Briefcase saw you know what, I got that ship on video. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:15:01.600 You'll check on the check on the Instagram. Um. But yeah, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.080 you know, like we've been talking for the last few months. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:05.520 They're like, hey, we want you to do some kind 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.760 of because they went to the Afroman show that I 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.920 did the Owners, and they were like, hey, we want 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.840 you to do kind of a little wrap thing for them. So, 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.360 you know, I went there thinking it was just all good. 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.840 I started knocking some back, thinking I was just gonna 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.760 chill there for a couple of hours and then head 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.800 back here to record, and they like straight up snuck 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.640 a p A system up on me with a bunch 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.920 of Pete rock beats like like like that, you know what, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.720 I mean like yo, They're like, yo, do you want 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.080 to go in? I was like, I'm just picturing them 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.400 like rolling it out like a little thing while you're 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.800 not looking. It's like really quietly tell him, like stack 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.440 it up behind you with its pretty much what it was. 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.720 So like at first, I was like nervous, like, oh, 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.720 because there's some like corny Christmas thing you want me 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.400 to do. And they're like, no, just just do you 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.720 you know what I mean? So I just I freestyle 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.960 the dude who about the props. I did some games 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.920 and it just all felt really warm, like co worker, 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.920 you know what I'm saying. But I gotta saying. The 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.680 paid day was pretty good. But the the paid day 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.160 was pretty they was you know that that was like 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.120 when you do those like university shows or like the shows. 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.400 It was one of those sort of shows or you're like, yeah, yeah, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.920 that was so I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. But 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.480 we're gonna get into all this stuff about the Georgia 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.800 Progressives fucking wrecking ship, and we'll be right back with 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:40.400 that after the jump. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we are back. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:46.240 So per the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the story of the 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.400 Metro runoffs goes beyond the fact that a string of 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.960 incumbents were ousted. If you look closer, you'll find that 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.280 many of the winners were backed by the Georgia Working 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.920 Families Party. That's a local chapter of a relatively new 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.320 national progressive party based in Brooklyn, New York. Three of 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.119 the newly elected city council members. Why don't you go 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.639 ahead and say those names. Yeah, we got Lily on 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.400 a Bati, We got Antonio Lewis, We got Jason Dojer 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:16.520 who respectively of Li Liana um is Iranian American non binary. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:21.200 Um were individual Antonio Lewis, um, you know, reps hard 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.280 for you know, Cleveland Avenue, very well supported by like 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.840 the labor movement. And then we got Jason Doser, who 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:32.200 is a military vet uh quote unquote progressive's pretty progressive guy, um, 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.480 you know, longtime activist in the like Mechanicsville kind of 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.200 area of Amanta. And then whose last whose last I 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:45.919 was another one can forget forget about so most exciting 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:51.320 to me, Kali cameo, um, my boy city councilman in 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:58.119 South Fulton democratists and uh demograt socialists and um openly 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:02.960 gay openly queer individual one the mayorship is going to 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.320 be the mayor of the blackest city in America. It's 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.520 like ninety percent black South Polks any one, And I 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.680 think it really so. I think all of this there's 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.080 very interesting implications for what this means about the state 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.440 of politics where the electorate is at in Georgia. But 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.359 I think this in particular, if we may take a 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.879 moment to break it down. You know, he may not 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.920 have run on explicitly like defund the police like platform, 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.960 but you know he's wrapping that life. You know, a 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.080 lot of you know, his democratic socialist ideas, couching those 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.880 ideas in in in in in recular people understand about 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.520 like supporting youth entrepreneurship and small businesses and more land 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.840 ownership for the people. But like the fact that he 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.200 was like a progressive, perhaps even a radical, you know, 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.320 queer black man. Um It's like, you know, people try 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.119 and say, oh, black people aren't down for that kind 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.040 of ship. They're not, like, you know, radicalism of the 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.720 sixties is over. But like he's he's proved that, ain't 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.080 Is that what people are saying? I don't know, what 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:00.840 do you think people are saying about where the black 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:04.159 electorate is at. I don't know. I mean, I'm not 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.480 even gonna front I I don't I don't know. I 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.240 don't really have a sense of like what they're saying. 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.399 You know what I mean. M Well, here's what I get. Often, 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.920 I all a lot of people that I mean, to 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.280 their credit, you know see that I I like sucking 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:24.640 advanced degrees or whatever. You know, I like, I'm very articulate, negro, etcetera, etcetera, 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.520 And so I have like black people like it's the 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.160 black establishment oftentimes saying I don't know what to talk about. 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.679 I'm talking about radical ship because like, oh you are 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.200 you know, because because I'm white a five, by the 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.480 fact that I've gone to school a great deal and 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:42.240 I talk a certain way, etcetera, etcetera. Um, but these 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.800 these radical ideas deals though, they generated in the black community, 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.920 you know, Fred Hampton, Julie Newton, Angela Davis, Malcolm X, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.840 Martin Luther King Jr. Like, Oh, but you know, it's 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.239 the the it's the white left that's all about all 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.159 that ship, and we don't really like that ship in 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.440 our Here is what you know. People try to say 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.680 sometimes when it's like Naba, the spirit of the of 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.040 the sixties is alive today. Do you have a sense 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:06.840 of why Do you have a sense of why that is? 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.680 Because I mean you're saying that, like, yes, I get 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.520 that same sense, But I mean, why is that. I 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:17.320 don't understand why like in these times we would be 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.600 maybe radical is not the right word for it, but 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.520 why in the times that we're in now that we 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:30.720 would be like lesser tentative to what's going on. Yeah, 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:32.600 and I think what I'm about to say has implications 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:36.080 for Atlanta, fl like Segway back into But like I 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:40.160 think honestly, it's like you trust who shows up. Ultimately, 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:44.320 you trust who shows up. Um. Alright, So like if 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.879 you know, the black block of the electorate is treated 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.639 as a foregone conclusion we're going to vote Democrat, people 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.159 don't invest a lot of money in coming out to 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.000 talk to us because they assume we're gonna vote for Bio, 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.359 assume we're gonna vote rob assuming Love Kamala Harris and 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.480 all the ship And that is then leaving round for 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.800 you know, Republicans to come in. Let's say, for example, 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.320 with you know, a parallel example like Bernie Sanders got 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.000 seventy of the Latino vote. And it's not even necessarily 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.680 because his ideas were like where they were in terms 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.399 of the stuff they were even asked for. Is that 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:17.680 his people showed up in their communities to knock on 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:20.280 their doors, talk to them in Spanish, make sure their 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.440 materials were in Spanish, and they were like, I like 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:25.680 this guy. They showed up. I'm with that. And so 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:28.720 bringing it background to Atlanta, I think that you know, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.280 Colleade and some of these other progressives that won the 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.640 City Council with the backing of the Working Families Party, 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:36.640