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Speaker 1: You are now listening to waiting on reparations the production

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Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Yo, yo yo, what's good my people?

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Speaker 1: I am dope knife, I am extremely tired, and we

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Speaker 1: are we've been waiting to goddamn long for reparations, get

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Speaker 1: my bro. But alright, so let's let's let's let's just

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Speaker 1: pick it up and get right into it. So we

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Speaker 1: you know, we've been really good, as our executive producer

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Speaker 1: has been getting us to to be a lot more

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Speaker 1: prompt when we're recording these, but we have gone back

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Speaker 1: to our bullshit and we are on one of those

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Speaker 1: late night sessions and you just got our City Hall.

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Speaker 1: I don't even like these. I just got out of

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Speaker 1: a Christmas party from the day job. I'm fucking I

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Speaker 1: all right, So tell us a about the city Hall

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Speaker 1: meeting that bro. So, I just got home from city Hall.

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Speaker 1: It's our last volting meeting of the year, and there

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Speaker 1: are several contentious issues on the agenda. For months, for

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Speaker 1: months or a year, we've been working on an eviction

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Speaker 1: because of COVID, etcetera. Um, we finally passed it tonight. Um.

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Speaker 1: But interestingly, like d c A and the Department of

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Speaker 1: Community Affairs of Georgia, like they've started, you know, giving

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Speaker 1: like this already. Yeah, and we didn't for various reasons,

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Speaker 1: mostly obvious reasons. People have been staling. People have been

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Speaker 1: stalling it, stalling it, stalling it. And so I am

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Speaker 1: so thankful that finally, you know, all these families that

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do? You can get some help. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that it's so late, but that happened to

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Speaker 1: night we approved um contract and funding for a safe

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Speaker 1: exactly have you been working on it? So eviction prevention

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Speaker 1: programs like this exists in Guenda County. Yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: mean we were we were talking about eviction mortary moratariums

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Speaker 1: speaks as well. I mean, yes, people stalled it and

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Speaker 1: that was very unfortunate. But in general, like the time

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Speaker 1: scales in which we have to understand, like policy unfolds

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Speaker 1: are so long, Like just generally the gears of government

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Speaker 1: just turned so slowly, like a year to pull off

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Speaker 1: so they know that, Like you've been working on this

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Speaker 1: up so much, right and y'all are discussing these things

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Speaker 1: like like is it is? It isn't? And I don't

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Speaker 1: won't be criminalized living outdoors like we have. We have

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Speaker 1: to do two things. We have to Oftentimes, if we're

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with federal funding, they have so many hurdles

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Speaker 1: So then so okay, and then then I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: being like wait, you guys, I promise we're working on it,

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Speaker 1: and read it. It was very spicy, very spicy talking

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Speaker 1: Well police Trape wasn't too happy about that. Um sent

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Speaker 1: what's really really rude. Right now, y'all go, y'all go

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Speaker 1: and mindlessly perpet your way Reagan's legacy. Y'all gonna take

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Speaker 1: lea Water's advice, like what's good? What's popping? You know?

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Speaker 1: oh no, what are we gonna do? Can prime number

426
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Speaker 1: one number one issue? It probably because of the media.

427
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Speaker 1: But anyway, I mean, just as a as a devil's advocate,

428
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Speaker 1: I think I think I would add the caveat to

429
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Speaker 1: that that because the local media, you know what I'm saying,

430
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Speaker 1: Because I just just as as somebody who just consumes

431
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: probably way too much cable national news, then a healthy

432
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: person should. It's very much like when it it's referenced

433
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Speaker 1: in national media. It's very much reference, like in a

434
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Speaker 1: sort of a meta way, acknowledging that they're referencing these numbers,

435
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I would imagine, because

436
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't watch a lot of local news, I would imagine,

437
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: especially since some of these right wing companies have brought

438
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Speaker 1: up a lot of these local news stations, I would

439
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: imagine that the local news and a lot of towns

440
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: is a fucking horror show. It is. I mean, it

441
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: is very influential. There's very influential local Instagram accounts that like,

442
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: it's like world Star, but they post videos alike yeah black, yeah,

443
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: straight up. So they they're like, oh, look at these

444
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: animals fighting each other and they get, you know, ten

445
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: thousands of abuse. A counter example is that so in

446
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: the major race, you had Andre Dickens and Felicia Moore.

447
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: Felicia Moore was the city council president um and so

448
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: Felia So Andre Dickens won in the runoff, He's gonna

449
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: be the next mayor of Atlanta. But uh, Felicia Moore,

450
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: who lost, accused rapper t I and producer Isaac Hayes

451
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: the third of tanking her chances at winning right, spreading

452
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: false claims that she was gonna shut down strip clubs

453
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: and this and that, and like they said that in

454
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: interviews with local gossip magazines. As the local gossip magazines

455
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: picked up and they started, oh, Felicia More wants to

456
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: chuck down the strip clubs. And I don't know, I

457
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: don't think that's really true. But she was even saying

458
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: that that's the reason she lost. I mean, who would

459
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: they have been helping by messing up her ship? Somebody

460
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: establishment or no. So let's be just a straight up oar. So,

461
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, both of the mayoral candidates, including the winner, um,

462
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: but you'll the candidates they met to the run off

463
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: for pretty pro police. Um. Andre Dickens did vote for

464
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: the Rachard Brooks Bill, which was a bill that came

465
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: forward last summer that was to withhold half the police

466
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: budget until they did certain reforms. It wasn't even to

467
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: fund them. It's just like, let's not give them all

468
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: their money right now until they do some ship. So

469
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: he was getting hammered about that by like the rights

470
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and people, and so he came out saying like, oh,

471
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: I've I've increased the police budget every year. I'm gonna

472
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: hire my officers. Of both of them, we're very pro

473
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Speaker 1: pro cop um. So I can't remember where I was

474
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Speaker 1: going with them. I got to my feelings. No, I mean,

475
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, because who is the benefit benefit? Who

476
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: is the benefit? That's why so ridiculous, Like because it's

477
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: just like because you aren't good. I don't know, I

478
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: just don't think that. And and this might be just

479
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: like me getting more cynical, but I'm just I'm not

480
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: really feeling that things are coincidences or accidents like that

481
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: a lot, you know. I mean, I'm not trying to

482
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: give head the benefit of the doubt of like, yo,

483
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: they're stupid, especially people who I don't think you're stupid.

484
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Speaker 1: I don't think t you know. I mean, I think

485
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Speaker 1: to your stupid, I think is kind of done. I

486
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't think. I don't think his daughter

487
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: is junk for years to make sure that like I

488
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Speaker 1: be in a creep. So okay, so t I he

489
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Speaker 1: is a creep. Okay there, But when I say not,

490
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Speaker 1: I just mean in the sense of like whether that

491
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Speaker 1: had an effect on her election or not. I just

492
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: don't see the act of him doing that in an

493
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Speaker 1: election season, knowing that he at the bare minimum has

494
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: the intelligence level that I believe him to have as

495
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: being just a coincidence, you know what I mean. Oh,

496
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: I was just you know, I was I was just

497
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: getting interviewed and someone asked me a question. So I

498
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: commented on this thing, you know. I mean, like that's

499
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna make anybody vote for

500
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: anybody or make anybody not vote for motherfucker, but like

501
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna affect perception and public perception saying stuff if

502
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: it's not true. It's one thing if it's true, but

503
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: if it's not true, like if you just made that up, Yeah,

504
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: that's way. Oh no, I don't know why you said it,

505
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: but that's fine. So okay, so let's go back to you. Okay, sorry.

506
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: So like yeah, so the coalitions I talk a little

507
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: bit Andrew Dickens being like his PROCP stuff. So Felicia

508
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Moore started kind of like colluding with like Republicans and

509
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: like racist white people that of in the really rich

510
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: part of the city, a part of the city Buckhead

511
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: that is trying to see to see it from Atlanta

512
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: because they gotta like something like I like, you can't

513
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: geographically distance from the black people, so at least they

514
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: would literally just have to be like we're not We're

515
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: not y'all anymore. Yeah. So she started like going to

516
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: the Republican meetings and like Buckhead and getting their endorsement.

517
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: They're sending out text for her. She even posted like

518
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: a thing on Twitter, like, you know, talking about talking

519
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: about a Moda Rvery's trial and how it's not real

520
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: justice and then should never happened. She took it down.

521
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: She got dragged by right wing people on Twitter, and

522
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: she took it down. What wait, so is she like

523
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: a so her whole coalition was like, oh, I'm gonna

524
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: like no one else of the rain and candidates like

525
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: reaching out to this like wealthy white uh the part

526
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: of the electorate and you know, so I'm gonna fill

527
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: up that space and that's how I'm gonna win in Yeah.

528
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but frankly, she was only she was

529
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: a front run front her pretty much before the runoff um,

530
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: because everybody had voted for her to keep out cassim Read.

531
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: You know about this Nigga. Cassim Read was the old

532
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: old president of Atlanta. We're seceding from Georgia. We are

533
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: in the state of Atlanta. Um so, so if he

534
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: was an old mayor, I don't know, like maybe before

535
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: kesh Land's bottoms, current mayor, hella corrupt, mad, federal corrept

536
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: I know who you're talking about. I know you're talking

537
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: about whole administration, super all of corrupt, like mad, sketchy, greasy,

538
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: grimy and shit real bad. And so everybody voted for

539
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: Felicia Moore to keep him from winning because he is

540
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: the black Trump. And then they were like, oh, actually

541
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: I like this bitch. Actually no, I'm saying it like

542
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: na now that Christine Read isn't in there anymore, and

543
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: you got worried about his greasy as actually this other

544
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: cat nigd whearing like blazers and situation, They're like, oh,

545
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: we'll go for him anyway. So the mayoral race differed

546
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: a lot from the city council races, and that everywhere else,

547
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, except for mayor, all the super pro cop

548
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: candidates got bounced damn bounced. So yeah, do you have

549
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: any theories for why, I like, the the crime awareness

550
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: message didn't land Ard. I mean, I don't even want

551
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: to say that, because the progressive one that it didn't land,

552
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: but is there is there like what became of that

553
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: message or that? Yeah, So I will answer that question

554
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: with the question because I regularly say conflicting things about this.

555
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: I think too, on one hand, that people are more

556
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: motivated by love than fear, Like if you're not putting

557
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: forward a positive, constructive vision of a city that you

558
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: want and you're just fearmongering and talking how shitty everything is,

559
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: like people are, people are just kind of like grossed

560
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: out and turned off by that. I also disagree with that,

561
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: and that, you know, when we talk about the mid

562
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: terms in a second, the angry or people are the

563
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: ones that are more motivated to get out and win.

564
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm gonna put that back to

565
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: you to ask. I don't know which one you think

566
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: is more like legit, But I think this actually speaks

567
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: to what I said the beginning is like who mobilizes

568
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: versus who just coasts on their name recognition in their incumbency, Like,

569
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: but I'm in this bitch, I'm good. What's up? Y'all

570
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: know me. I've been in this bitch for twenty years. Yeah,

571
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: you ain't going nowhere Versus the people who are like

572
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: humble and like I'm gonna put in the footwork to

573
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: get in there, you know, footwork winds. It's probably more true.

574
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: But what do you think about the earlier thing? Do

575
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: you think people are more motivated electorally by fear or love?

576
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: Like I want to say love, because yeah, I want

577
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: to say hope and change and love and all that

578
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: stuff because it feels like the right thing to say.

579
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: But I think Obama, you know, yeah, But I mean,

580
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: we got Obama. There was fear involved in Obama. You

581
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Again, I had to pull out

582
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: my old man pants and ship like that. But I

583
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: have a few years on you, and you know what

584
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And like, I mean, there was there. There

585
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: was like a fear because we had just went through

586
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: the eight years of Bush and fucking McCain was bringing

587
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: on Sarah pale Um, you know what I mean. And

588
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: it's like she was Trump before Trump was Trump. You

589
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. People were people were seeing that

590
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: and they were hearing the things that she was saying.

591
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: And then because she was on the ticket and start

592
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: making John McCain, who obviously John Mcan's Republican is terrible

593
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: whatever whatever, but he started saying stupid insane ship like

594
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: as a result of having Sarah Palin on the ticket.

595
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: Like I remember one thing that that stuck out really

596
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: close is just because like I had friends who were

597
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: fighting in the war and all that stuff that I remember.

598
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: He was John McCain was at a rally or something

599
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: like that after Sarah Palin had been brought on, and

600
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: he was like singing to the crowd. There were there

601
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: was he was making some point the crowd and he

602
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: was like doing the Beach Boys song and he was

603
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: like bom Bom Bom bom Bom I ran and they

604
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: were like all laughing about it and ship and I

605
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: remember being like what I was like maybe like like

606
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: twenty one or something like that. At the time, It's like, Yo,

607
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: these fucking Republicans are trying to make us go to

608
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: war forever, you know what I'm saying. Like, so that fear,

609
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: that palpable fear, was like, hey, hope and change, let's

610
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: do it. Yes we can, Yes we can, you know

611
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: what I mean? And so I think I think fear

612
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: and even even when you don't think it's fear, there

613
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: is a level of like, yo, I don't want I

614
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: don't want them to win. Now that obviously, I would

615
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: imagine that changes from person to person. There's obviously like

616
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: a contingent of people who that doesn't motivate them at all,

617
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: because really it is like some lizard brain thinking, you

618
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, be scared vote for this person.

619
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: There is there is that element to it and ship

620
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: like that. So you know, definitely kudos to those who

621
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 1: can rise above it. But you know, I gotta admit

622
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: my lizard brain still does come into play when it

623
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: comes to election seasons and ship like that. So it's like,

624
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: even when I don't feel motivated or if I'm not

625
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: excited about something, it's it's usually a good motivating factor

626
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: to me personally to think about Damn well, I definitely

627
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: don't want those. Yeah, And I'm starting to assess my

628
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: own like political leanings and like what for example, dream

629
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: me to Bernie Sanders, and Bernie Sanders had like the

630
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: United against common enemy the billionaires like, and so it

631
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: really was also like not like not a fear, but

632
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: like hatred but yeah, the billionaires. Yeah that's right, Uncle Bernie. Like,

633
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: so I mean maybe that is more true than like,

634
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: oh I like your constructive vision for the society. How

635
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: many how many progressives were like, legit scared of Hillary Clinton?

636
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Speaker 1: You know, no, but I mean I don't mean it scared.

637
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Speaker 1: I don't mean scared is in the literal like, yo,

638
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: does she like scare you? But I just mean, like

639
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: when Bernie, like part of Bernie's rise to prominence is

640
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: opposition to Hillary Clinton and the establishment that she represented,

641
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, and fighting the establishment and do that and

642
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: we wanted in that fight came from like, yo, I

643
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: don't know what these motherfucker's are gonna do. Like you

644
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: you literally you had you had a bunch of had

645
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: a bunch to people on the left really like truly

646
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: fucking who whose brains turned to mash potatoes for like

647
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: a good two years When we're thinking and so, gee,

648
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: I really think Donald Trump is anti war and Hillary

649
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: clin is gonna go to war, you know what I'm saying,

650
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: And like they really like just because of their fear

651
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: of what they thought Hillary would do, they were like

652
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: willing to like give Donald Trump the benefit of the

653
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: doubt uncertain ship. So fear is definitely a motivating factor.

654
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: M one side is better at playing on it. But

655
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: that's that more so goes because the people who follow

656
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: that are just more prone to following their fears and

657
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: being guided by their fears and their fear of the

658
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: unknown and fears and what they don't know, what they

659
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: don't understand. But you know, I think I think us

660
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: on our on our our side definitely were susceptible to it,

661
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, and in this case, I mean, yeah,

662
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: I say, I would say, like it's fear, and then

663
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: it's really hard as an incumbent generally to like defend

664
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: your ship when like where the world stays bad, I

665
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: would argue because of capitalism. So like if you're progressive

666
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: or you're conservative or whatever, if you're a fucking flying monkey,

667
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: and like after four years, like shi, it's not better,

668
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody don't care? They don't kick your asks the

669
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: curb because it's not better because it's but so hard

670
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: to I mean, like, like I advocate people to get

671
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: involved at the local level, but actually I mean, frankly,

672
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: there's only so much we could do. But I mean,

673
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: so in this case, like Cleto Winslow, who got beaten

674
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: by Jason Doger had been in office twenty eight years

675
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: and if like he didn't really have to even like

676
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: put it forward like a constructive positive message or in

677
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: stoked beer. All he had to do was go say,

678
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't think how the poward things going. Do you

679
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: like what's happening? Do you like do you think the

680
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: city is better? And if you don't, it's like I

681
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: like that. Nickels like, yeah, I'm not a very nice

682
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: young man, um and so yeah, I mean, uh, it's

683
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: just really interesting that all these cats were sucking pro

684
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: Cop like Jackie's a bot was the sheriff's wife, the

685
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: wife of the sheriff of Fulton County who has been

686
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: fighting to like keep the Fultone County Jail open, even

687
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: after they secured an agreement to like close the Phone

688
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: County Jail. She was running for city council low key

689
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: to like to protect her husband's job security of sheriff,

690
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, and she got her ass kicked. Uh Cleyo

691
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: Winslow super pro Cop got her as kick. They had

692
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: an episode on Cops City a couple of my guests

693
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: a month or two ago. But like the lady who

694
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: Chant who like the author of Cops City and was

695
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: pushing for that ship boom gone, fuck you Joyce Shephard

696
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: out of here. So it's interesting that like a mixture

697
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: of these things, the footwork, the fact that she's not

698
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: really better, and so like the incumbents just don't stand

699
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: a chance, Like here we are more progressive city council

700
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: and let it. Oh no, my cat's gonna eat my pizza.

701
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: No go save it. We had a roach killings, We

702
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: got cats eating pizza. What other show are you gonna hear?

703
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: Roach killings and cats eating pizza? It's waiting on reparation.

704
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: It had anchovies on it. But like, I don't even

705
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: blame the A little dude. All right, let me see

706
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: if I could get some of your like analysis on

707
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: the situation. Is this something that is particular to perhaps

708
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: the demographics of where some of these candidates were running,

709
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: or is it something particular to the time that we're

710
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: in or the state that Georgia is in politically? Like,

711
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: is this something? Is this something that that democrats? Is

712
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: this something that you feel that that democrats buy at large,

713
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: whether they be neo liberal or whatever, can pay attention

714
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: to and kind of learn some strategies from things that

715
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: were done in these Georgia elections to not feel the

716
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: need to be in the center or absolutely absolutely, people

717
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, you know, the South Georgia is

718
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: gonna go down just like Virginia. Well, motherfucker, I doubt

719
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: that Virginia has a percent voter registration rate. Georgians are

720
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Speaker 1: now registered to vote, largely thanks to Staty Abrahams New

721
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Georgia Project fair fight well with the other one, Yes, well,

722
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: New Georgia Project, New Georgia mostly um. And so it's

723
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: like putting in the footwork. They actually talk to people.

724
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: So then you think that's the key, Then that's that's yeah,

725
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: that's what Georgia more, you know, unique among like newly

726
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: blue states is that you know, we put in the

727
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: footwork to register voters, to engage voters, to you know,

728
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: to actually just go talk to people. Like I said,

729
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: whoever shows up wins, and Democrats been showing up two

730
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: or you know, like low key democratic but nonpartistan organization

731
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: has been showing up to like get people involved. And

732
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: so that's the formula. I mean, granted, it's easy to do,

733
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: like when in the runoffs last year, you know, or

734
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: fu earlier this year Jesus Christ for the Senate, like

735
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: you had niggas, it was like a billion dollars put

736
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: into the state set pay people don't knock on doors.

737
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: They had postcards from Arizona, Milwaukee, New Hampshire, Nigga's right,

738
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: and like, hey, don't forget to and then put in

739
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: your absentee you know all the ship it doesn't. I mean,

740
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: that's a pretty unique fiscal situation, you know what I'm saying, Like,

741
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: and not everybody got the got the bag like that,

742
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: but um, we do we put in the forwork. I

743
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: think that's it. I think that's you know what's happening

744
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: in the state of Georgia. The playbook that's brought us

745
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: to this moment both in Atlanta and like I think,

746
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: like like Challengers beat and come across the state, Warner

747
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: Robbins got their first black female mayor and ship like

748
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: all over the state, this has been true. So what

749
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Stacy's announcement? Bro, I think we

750
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: have to do a whole nother fucking episode on this

751
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: because we've been rambling about landing for old you know,

752
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: so me and we may have come back to this,

753
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: but I will say that, um coming, but we all

754
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: knew it's gonna happen. We knew it. We knew it

755
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: was gonna be for something. I'm not gonna lie. I

756
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: have my post my yard signed up on my wall.

757
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: Fucking took that ship down, put it up in the yard.

758
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: The same night. I was like, let's go. It's very

759
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: clear that you know, she announced because the energy was

760
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: high among Democrats across the state because we're running things,

761
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: winning things. So she was like, all right, let's go,

762
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: let's fucking rock y'all, y'all, y'all think, y'all hype. Now,

763
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: let's get hype baby. So, like you know, so here

764
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: we are, she's running for governor. If she pulls it off.

765
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: How old is Stacey Abrams? Do you know old enough? Huh?

766
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 1: I mean well, I just I mean because I'm thinking

767
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: of the future, because I mean, yeah, if Stacy Abrams

768
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: was able to pull that ship off, like after like

769
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: on top of everything that she's already done, she's able

770
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: to win, you become the next governor of Georgia. I

771
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: think she will be president one day. Oh yeah, she's

772
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: been said she want to president. Yeah. I just I

773
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: just think that's gonna solidify, Like I think that will

774
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: just make it inevitable. I think so, I think, yeah, um,

775
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: so so quick like point of order for us, not

776
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: for on the recording. We have been recording for maybe

777
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes we have Okay, I think we think

778
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: we started at like eleven. So that's why I said, like, oh,

779
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: we might have to do another episode on this because

780
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: we that's already talked about a ton of ship. Let's

781
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: transition into the break and then let's come back and

782
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: let's listen to one song for music discussion off all right,

783
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: So um so yeah, like like quick thoughts, you know,

784
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do another episode of Stacy Abrams alone.

785
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: But just generally speaking, you know, with this happening and

786
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: it's so fresh in our minds, what do you think?

787
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Do you think this means anything affects anything with the

788
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: mid terms or not? Because the poll recently came came

789
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: out that shows Democrats pretty much getting trouped in just

790
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 1: about every category, whether you want to talk about these

791
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: bullshit cultural issues or even down to like the economics

792
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but they're getting hammered. So so

793
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that drawing off of what what

794
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: I've been talking about earlier about footwork, the question is

795
00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: whether or not progressive footwork can out it overcome, overcome,

796
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: like the disatisfaction among the electorate that like, other than

797
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: the child tax credit, which my ass is gonna be

798
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: getting in January with South or in about some month,

799
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm buying some shoes some Jordan's not just getting them

800
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: buying baby formula. But um, you know, that's the only

801
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: thing that people are gonna feel between now and She's

802
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: like build back better agenda, roads and bridges and ship

803
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: and they know that that you're coming until pretty much

804
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: so people who haven't seen the you know, reaped what

805
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: has been sown by Biden and his in his ilk.

806
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: So people aren't happy, people aren't gonna turn out. And

807
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: also the issue of just like the people who are

808
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: more piste off generate more mobilization and then they win.

809
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: It just swings back and forth there in the mid terms,

810
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: the party and power get their asses whooped, and it's

811
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: just how it goes. I honestly, I'm just anticipating that

812
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: that's just probably what's gonna happen. His historically has happened.

813
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: One thing that might help in the Democrats favor. I mean,

814
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, this is we're talking about

815
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: patterns that are political patterns that are set by historical

816
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: precedent going back like sixty years. So there's a there's

817
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: an amount of it that's inevitable and ship Okay, I'm

818
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: so sorry, I'm so sorry. I gotta do this, but

819
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: I just found out that the local sheriff's department near

820
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: half of Georgia just posted an opening for their communications director,

821
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: which to me says I got him shook. Yeah, somebody left.

822
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: When they left, I don't know what happened. Maybe they

823
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: got tired of dealing with us, or maybe they didn't

824
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: have one and now they feel that they do. We

825
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: feel like they got to like, yeah, he's winning the

826
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: public narrative, she's winning the battle of hearts and mines.

827
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: Like what we don't do? We can't just kill her, gemmy.

828
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. We gotta come back to talking about

829
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: the mid terms, all right. So there's an amount of

830
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: that that is inevitable. It's gonna happen because of those

831
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: are the patterns and stuff. But we can't overlook the

832
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: fact that you know, in a day, two days, three days,

833
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: maybe a week, like the Supreme Court very much could

834
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: overturn Roe v. Wade. And if they do that, in

835
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: these challenges start coming in, those ships are not going

836
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: to start coming in until around mid terms. Okay, So

837
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: if the backdrop of the mid terms is like the act,

838
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: the actual like court struggle about like Roe v. Wade,

839
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: that could be part of that fear that motivated fear

840
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: factor that we were talking about. On the degree I

841
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: mean to that, I will say, maybe not game changing,

842
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: but it could be game changing. Um could also be

843
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: that low income and like brack and black and brown

844
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: women have barely been able to get abortions anyway, That's

845
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: how I would frame it, because it's like, because that's

846
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Speaker 1: what it is, because like I can't take a day

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Speaker 1: off work to drive to al to pay five dollars

848
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Speaker 1: to like not have to have a baby, Like I

849
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: I can't get childcare for my other three kids to

850
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Speaker 1: go down here and do this. I don't have a car.

851
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: I can't make it there. So like abortion is already

852
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: illegal for like tons of people in a certain sense,

853
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: like abortion is inaccessible to tons of people. So I

854
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Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be motivated to come out

855
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Speaker 1: and vote by that. Frankly, so unfortunately, unfortunately, yeah, yeah, question,

856
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm the question again. I'm saying and like, can the

857
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Speaker 1: footwork overcome people's satisfaction with the Democratic Party right now?

858
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: So a lot of people, um, you know, Latasha Brown,

859
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: CEO of Black Voters Matter, UM, others have talked about

860
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: feeling like they got thrown over under the bus by

861
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Speaker 1: the Biden administration because they refused to boss the filibuster

862
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: and pass voting rights legislation. Uh. And they're they're counting

863
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Speaker 1: on us to do the footwork to overcome um voter suppression.

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Speaker 1: Brandon additional fact of interest is that the turner the

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Speaker 1: Allanta elections that we were just talking about was up

866
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Speaker 1: even though they had just passed that vote. Is sup

867
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Speaker 1: pressure ship We talked about an episode a couple of

868
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: back months a month back, so, UM, who knows is

869
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying this is the voter suppression?

870
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: Really that well? I mean, or was it something to

871
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: scare people into coming out to vote for by Like

872
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: I really freaked out about it. I think I think

873
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: that I think that that sort of you, while valid,

874
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Speaker 1: I think that downplays the work that Stacey A rooms

875
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Speaker 1: that No, not at all, Like I think it's just

876
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: like something It's just this has been a project that

877
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: she's been working on for like four or five years,

878
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So perhaps she's built it

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00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: up to where it's kind of as far as Georgia's concerned.

880
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: Maybe that grassroots effort in the footwork that you put

881
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: in makes it kind of voter suppression proof. Oh yeah,

882
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: So that little just an indicator of how this could

883
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: go in the mid terms, and that if the footwork

884
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: is enough to overcome voter depression. Indeed, then perhaps is

885
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: the footwork enough to bring it turn out in the

886
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: mid terms and ship y'all think it's better just let

887
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: these Republicans win, y'all. If y'all, if y'all overcome their

888
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: voter suppression, they're about to bring slavery backs like it

889
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Speaker 1: didn't work, bring out the chains. We can't let these

890
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: thinkus vote. Thank you, get out your guns and swarm

891
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: the capitals, all the capitals. We tried to make the

892
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Speaker 1: lines eight hours long and they still came out and voted. Goddamnit.

893
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Speaker 1: Jim Crows coming back. Yeah all right, Um, that's what

894
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: we got for today. Uh, next week we are so yeah, yeah,

895
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: we got we're gonna have when we come back from

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Speaker 1: the break. We're gonna have a music discussion. But just

897
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Speaker 1: before we get back getting that. When we come back

898
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Speaker 1: next week, we are going to be doing our episode

899
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: on Dick Gregory. Going to be kind of a deep

900
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: dive into the life of Dick Gregory life and times,

901
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: talk about his activism, his career, his meaning is impact

902
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: American culture and just black culture in general. Um and yeah,

903
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: well we're gonna be back since we're talking about Georgia elections,

904
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: we are going to talk about a Georgia song when

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00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: we come back, So we'll be back with that after

906
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: the job. All right, ladies and gentlemen, you gotta say

907
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna cough, let it out. I'd get it out

908
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: your shirt. You what are you doing? You gotta giving

909
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: me strong Jim Carrey vibes right now, like the faces

910
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: and like the sounds. Anyway, welcome back to waiting on reparations.

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00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm waiting. I'm seeing the doctor because I'm coughing a

912
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: great deal. All right. So you know, like I said

913
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: before we got a break, we're talking about the Georgia elections.

914
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk about a Georgia song from

915
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: back in the day. I posted up that link. You

916
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Speaker 1: see that This is uh, it's the last link on

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Speaker 1: the So this is a tract by Ludicrous featuring Field

918
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: Mob and Jamie Fox. It is called Georgia. Y'all remember

919
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: this ship. This is like two thousand six. You know

920
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like some of y'all's closes closes way

921
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: too baggy. You remember what you know what? It was,

922
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: rest my Georgia. Bold com anywhere on my land and

923
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: I'll aim at Georgia. Remember this, And it's got the

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00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: sample right, yeah, the the Ray Charles sample. Uh yeah,

925
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: Ray Charles sample. But because it was back just back

926
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Speaker 1: when Jamie Fox played uh Ray Charles and the Ray movie.

927
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: So like of course they had to. They had the

928
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: they had the Ray Charles sample. They got Jamie Fox

929
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: to actually say get instead of sampling Ray far y'all

930
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: can't see it going. Uh so yeah, ludle Cris Georgia.

931
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: You know, Ludacris is one of the artists that I

932
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: always felt like repped super hard for Georgia and just

933
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta in general. You I don't know

934
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: if you remember. He had another one back in two

935
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: thousand two called Welcome to Atlanta, had Jermaine Dupris on it.

936
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: And Nelly. If you go up to the Atlanta Airport,

937
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: they got a big gass like glowing banner, like electronic banner.

938
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: When you're coming up the escalator has got ludicrous face

939
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: on it. It's like welcome to Atlanta. Yeah yeah, de ass.

940
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: So what do you think about What do you think

941
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: about that? I think it's beautiful. I think I love

942
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: the particularities. I love that they're like, yo, I'm out

943
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: down at all the name, I'm wrapping for the Yellow

944
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: Jackets and George the tech good Current turned up greens

945
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: and color greens and you know, go dogs like it's cute.

946
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: It's cute. I like the cultural you know, like signs.

947
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you ever disrespect will clean out your dirty

948
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: mouth something the dirty South, like yeah, all that ship

949
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: is dope, man, I mean I I like it. You know.

950
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: Hip hop I think is always at its best when

951
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: it's got that personal vibe to it. And there's nothing

952
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: more personal when when you're rapping than either talking about

953
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: your family or the city that you're from. You know

954
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, it's like it usually if

955
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: you're dealing with good m c s, there's always gonna

956
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: be like a sort of personal touch that somebody's gonna

957
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: be able to put on that hometown song, you know

958
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: what I mean, to make it unique to them. So

959
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: I feel like this track, everybody kind of went in

960
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: on it with their style, but you know, like the

961
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: subject matter all everyone having the same topic of what

962
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: they were talking about and it being something that's so

963
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: personal to everyone, you know, like as far as where

964
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: they're from. Man, this, I mean, this ship still bumps.

965
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: Today's out there when North Carolina about Peter Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly,

966
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: great anthems for a state, Yeah, no one or like

967
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 1: even um, do you want to get something a little

968
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: bit more poppy, like New York State of Mind or

969
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: Empire state of Mind with a jay Z and very

970
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: different New York, Yeah, very different, but one is like

971
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: the grimy realness. The other ones like paid for by

972
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Speaker 1: the New York Tourism bureauth. I forget if it was

973
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: you or if it was me, but one of us

974
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: made the point that it was like, oh, like Empire

975
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: state of Mind is kind of like that's the song

976
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: that you use in like the official City of New York,

977
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: like commercial or ad or something like that. We're getting

978
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: blown by, like Elmo in the Little Elmo costume outside

979
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Speaker 1: of the eminem Store. I don't mean this in a

980
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: negative way, but I feel like that the Georgia song,

981
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: the Ludicrous Georgia song that we just listened to, is

982
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: that same sort of way. Like it feels like if

983
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Speaker 1: you had like cool people on city council or meat

984
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: or a cool beard, that'd be like, yeah, let's use

985
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: that for the Welcome to Georgia commercial. Let's use that song.

986
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: I like that. Alright, ladies and gentlemen, that is all

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Speaker 1: we got. We have to go, but we are going

988
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: to be back next week. Obviously we've got a dope

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00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: one for you, So thank you. Guys, Like subscribe, leave

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Speaker 1: a comment, Yeah, do some reviews. Follow us on social media.

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Speaker 1: you know, hit the d M comments. Let us know

993
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Speaker 1: what you're thinking. Yeah, if you guys ask questions, we'll

994
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Speaker 1: answer them, you know what I mean. So, um, my

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Speaker 1: name is Dope Knife. I'm still extremely tired, but we're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to wrap for you or at least muster

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Speaker 1: up a bar or two a Joel drop a beaut

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Speaker 1: for us. So u yo yo. I know they're distressing

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Speaker 1: lord with a blessing to go to keep winning like

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Speaker 1: Georgia Progressive. Motherfucker's checking. They ain't know with my methist.

1001
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: Now I gotta hit him because I'm cold and I'm reckless.

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Speaker 1: First of my checklist. Give them scary slander working with

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Speaker 1: the knife that'll get you Jerrymanda and I'm very mad

1004
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: and hate on me. Make a weak rap a crowd

1005
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Speaker 1: like the AOC one a piece of your pie. So

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Speaker 1: I ate all three to a bleach in your eye.

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Speaker 1: You okay, hold me, don't okay. Look, I'm quite excited

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Speaker 1: by this lady name Stancy. The lately have a quad

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Speaker 1: taste for hayter rate frankly a thin campaign in the

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Speaker 1: stankless of canvas and phone Bank did not appreciate some

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Speaker 1: policies of partial compensation. For example, Hope to Loba turned

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Speaker 1: the right to workers up. Boston is a quite the

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Speaker 1: dirt and union. Nay, how we fight the crooks. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: and especially if they won't for schedule, lead federally and limpy,

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00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: they want to lead a lot and put the taxi

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Speaker 1: back in the hands of the captain, backup and telling

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Speaker 1: us like a candim is back from the planet, abandoned

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Speaker 1: a couple other things that I am. I can't remember,

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Speaker 1: but I think you understand. Hey, I'm Dorpe Knife and

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Speaker 1: we are waiting on reparations. See you next week. Peace.

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