1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: We're talking immigration, my friend, because as we are getting 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: closer and closer to the holiday, we know that there 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: is a negotiation that is underway here. A five partisan 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 2: group of senators are working on changes to immigration policy 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: that places like CBS and NBC News are saying we'll 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: be sweeping major immigration changes on the way. Perhaps, Well, 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: what exactly is at issue? What is likely to change here? 11 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: What can actually happen as a result of this? First, 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: let me tell you what they're offering of and how 13 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: they're positioning this, and then I'll tell you what I 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: really think is going on here. Okay, the biggest thing, 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: well here is Joe Manchin, you know, guy who's not 16 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: even running for Senate anymore. Why don't we hear what 17 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: he has to say about this? And then I'll tell 18 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: you what the vote. What the two sides here are 19 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: trying to negotiate. This is Joe Mansion on boarder negotiating 20 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: border negotiations six. 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: That I have been communicating with the negotiators, my colleagues 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: and friends on the Democrat and Republican side, also with 23 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: the White House too, and I'm very encouraged. I'm very optimistic. 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: They're moving in a very positive way. They understand that 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: the border is broken, that glass ceiling has been broken, 26 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: and we've got to stop this dangerous immigration that we 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: have come into our country from all over the world. Jake, 28 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: Things that we've never seen, numbers that we have never 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: seen like this. The whole world is in the flux, 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: and they're taking advantage of a system that truly is broken. 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: And this is not immigration reform. They're basically working diligently 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: on just securing the border. It must be done, it 33 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: must be shut down. 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: The system didn't break itself. Can we just take a 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: moment here to look at what reality is on this 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: and and get away from the propaganda terms that they 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: will use. The system isn't just broken. Democrats and some 38 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: Republicans along with them have broken it. They chose this reality. 39 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: They chose not to make the changes that could be 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: made so that our asylum system would not be abused 41 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: in this way. One thing I've been thinking about, because 42 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: this really all comes down to the asylum issue in 43 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: many ways, at least right now, that is the heart 44 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: of the crisis. And here's what I could tell you. 45 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: It's a bit like if we were operating a shelllter 46 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: for you know, for battered spouses. Right. Imagine for a moment, 47 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: America is operating a shelter for battered spouses, and in 48 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: any given year, we're taking in, you know, fifty of them. 49 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: And we do this because it's a worthy goal. We 50 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: want to help people were we the American people are 51 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: a good people. And this is entirely separate from you know, 52 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: people who were giving free housing to and everything else. Right. 53 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: This is specifically for people who are under threat of violence. Right. 54 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: So that's why I think it's important to put it 55 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: in this context. America is operating a battered spouse shelter, 56 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: and then people realize, Hold on a second, you mean 57 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: that I can get a free bed, free meals, medical care. 58 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: But I just have to say that I also am 59 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: and an abused spouse. I'm just gonna lie about it, 60 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: and then a lie and lie. Instead of the fifty 61 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: people that we think will take in into this shelter 62 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: any given year, we've got five thousand or fifty thousand. 63 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: That is what they have done to the asylum system. 64 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: Asylum is for people who are under threat in their 65 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: home country because of persecution and depression, because of immutable characteristics. Right, 66 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: we have asylums so that you know, if they're going 67 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: to murder Christians in some foreign country, some perhaps Muslim 68 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: majority country for example, or if they're going to you know, 69 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: murder people who belong to some religious sect or people 70 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: who speak out in defense of liberty or democracy or whatever. 71 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: And we don't take everybody, because we can't take everybody, 72 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: but we try to take some. The people who are 73 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: coming into our country right now and have been by 74 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: the millions are claiming that they too are under threat. 75 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: They're lying. They are lying to the American people. It 76 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: is dishonest what they are doing. And we've known this 77 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: has been going going on for years. They started doing 78 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: it under Trump. At first they were abusing the rules 79 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: we have in place to take special care of children 80 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: found at the border, so they were all showing up 81 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 2: with kids. And then they were all showing up saying 82 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: they need asylum in they're fleeing violence, and the whole 83 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: thing is a scam. So they're taking advantage of the 84 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: generosity American people. This is not something that we should 85 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: just turn a blind eye to this is not something 86 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: that we can allow to continue. And so now we 87 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: get finally, oh wow, what a shock. In the election year, 88 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: we get some Senate Democrats and some Senate Republicans were saying, 89 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna have to really crack down on 90 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: the framework here or who were letting into the country 91 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: and all this other stuff. Let me say a couple 92 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: things about this. This always happens. This always happens when 93 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: you get into a contentious election cycle. Democrat start to 94 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: pretend that they don't want this to continue. Where were they? 95 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: You know, this has been a problem for three years. 96 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, these Senate Democrats will look, go 97 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: one thing to keep in mind about this, they've already 98 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: let the Biden regime has already Let I'm gonna say, 99 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: and what eight million, maybe six or seven, but gona 100 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: be gonna be basically eight when all said and done, 101 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: when you add the godaways and the visa overstays and 102 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: eight million illegals added to the overall tally in three 103 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: years three years in change. Okay, So now they're turning 104 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: around and saying, oh, yeah, we need to figure out 105 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: what we're gonna do about this A right, So once 106 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: they've already gotten eight million, now they're saying, we're gonna 107 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: have to change the rules about deportation who comes into 108 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: the country. Well, that will be temporary. They will say 109 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: this for the election year. They will say this now, 110 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: and maybe they come to some kind of framework agreement. 111 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: I don't believe it will pass in the House. I 112 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: don't believe anything's really going to happen other than a 113 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: lot of talk about how, yeah, we need to secure 114 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: the border. And then you know what happens. Count on 115 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: this one. If you have a Democrat, any Democrat, Biden, Harris, 116 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: Michelle Obama, whatever, right, any Democrat becomes president of the 117 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: United States for the next four years, the biggest single 118 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: push you will see if now this I know it 119 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: depends on Senate and House control, and there's some variables here. 120 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: But if they're in a place where they can and 121 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: they may just try this with the executive branch. Think 122 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: about what they've been able to do so far. They 123 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: have effectively through nullification of our immigration laws. That's what's happened. 124 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: It's not just the system broke. They have chosen through 125 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: lack of enforcement. They have chosen through absurdly low credible 126 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: fear standards to nullify our federal immigration laws because it 127 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: is to the Democrat's political benefit to do so. And 128 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: so why would they change, Why would that not be 129 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: what they want going forward? Well, what they really want 130 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: is amnesty, and that is what the next Democrat administration 131 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: that comes into office, if there is one, is going 132 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: to push forward more than any other single policy. Because 133 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: if you win that, if you win that policy fight, 134 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: what are you not going to win? I mean, look 135 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: at what's happened in the state of California. California gave 136 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: us Ronald Reagan. California was a solidly Republican state into 137 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: the nineties. Now it's the heart of the Democrat resistance. 138 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: Now it's you know, communist looney tunes with the very 139 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: rich people and people very dependent on the state living well. 140 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, side by side, living far apart 141 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: from each other, except when the dependent people in the 142 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: state have to you know, frim the hedges and you know, 143 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: pick up the kids and clean the house and all 144 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: the things that you know, the servant class in California does. 145 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: So you sit there and you say, they've already run 146 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: this playbook. Don't we think they're going to run it again? 147 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: What would be different this time around. I'm here to 148 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: tell you nothing. I'm here to tell you that, if anything, 149 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: the Democrats view this as a massive success. This hasn't 150 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: gotten as much attention as it should have from Republicans 151 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: in the House. I think unfortunately, a lot of big 152 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: business and therefore big donors, including Republicans, are always whining 153 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: about how they want more cheap labor, what about paying 154 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 2: people more. It's amazing to me I've been in these 155 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: situations with I've been at places where there are high 156 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: level Republican donors and some of them even say this 157 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: out loud. They say, well, I can't. I can't run 158 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: my business unless I can hire the illegals. And I 159 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: say why is that? I said, well, I can't. You know, 160 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: I don't want to pay what Americans of any race, 161 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: by the way, what Americans would want to do that job. 162 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: So I have illegals who are going to be dependent 163 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: upon state resources, meaning the taxpayer, meaning getting their health care. 164 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: And the emergency rooms. If you look New York City, 165 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: New York City emergency rooms are basically now where the 166 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of new illegals are all going to 167 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: get all of their medical care, all funded by the taxpayer. 168 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: And you may say, oh, well, of course we have 169 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: to help people and give them prescriptions, glasses and all 170 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: this stuff. And you say, okay, yeah, what happens if 171 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: you go in there you're having a heart attack. How 172 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: are you going to feel about the all the illegals 173 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: getting their like primary care at taxpayer expense, not even 174 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: supposed to be in the country. And you say, oh, well, 175 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: I want everyone to have health care. This is like 176 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: what a lib would say. And you go, well, do 177 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 2: you want to wait six hours while you're having a 178 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: heart attack? I don't think you're going to have six hours? Ah? 179 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: You mean there are consequences here. And this has what 180 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: this is what has finally pushed Democrats to have to 181 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: address this issue. Mayor Eric Adams is out there warning everybody. 182 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: He said, look, this is a crisis and the federal 183 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: money is not coming. So guess what New York City 184 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: residents are going to be picking up this tab. This 185 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: has cut five. We had to do a real job 186 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: of explaining to every day in New York because that 187 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: the federal. 188 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: Government has abandoned of this important issue, that's the national issue, 189 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: sort of angry. 190 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: It is going to come on. I'm the mayor. I'm 191 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: just so set on making sure that everyone understands this. 192 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: This is the desired outcome for Democrats. They're now turning 193 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: around and saying, oh my gosh, you mean that, like 194 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: all these people are getting into the country. Oh my gosh. 195 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: Our team pulled the numbers. According to Customs and Border Patrol, 196 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: it's over five point four million illegal border crossings plus 197 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: those are apprehensions, plus one point five million got away, 198 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: So that's six point nine million. Call it seven million. 199 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: Like lookout this, I said, like, it'll be eight soon. Yeah, 200 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: it'll be eight soon. It's about about seven million right now, 201 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: seven million people. That's getting close to being the size 202 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: of New York City, are largest city all illegals. And 203 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: that's added to the twenty million thirty million illegals who 204 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: already in the country. Why even happen? If this isn't 205 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: a problem to any of your lib friends out there 206 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: who are going to bring this up. Did you any 207 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: of the Kamis you're gonna see on MSNBC. You know, 208 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: they have like car and driver and multiple houses and 209 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: they fly private and you know, Oh, you know, they 210 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: love illegals because who's gonna do their manual labor for them? Right? 211 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: I mean, the the elites in this country, particularly elite Democrats, 212 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: are horrible on this issue. Horrible. Oh do you think 213 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: this might have anything to do with the cost of housing? 214 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: What happens? You know, they tell us that labor doesn't 215 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: have a supply and demand component, which is a lie. 216 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: Of course it does. But oh, they're not bringing down 217 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: wages by having millions, millions more people in the labor 218 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: force who weren't supposed to be. What about housing where 219 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: all the illegals go to live? How does that work? Exactly? 220 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: Seven million of them? Okay, yeah, they're living at homes 221 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: and I know they're not all living in single family 222 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: homes and all the rest of it. But that has 223 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: pressure on the housing market. That adds a challenge and 224 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: to a lot of people out there are saying, so, 225 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm doing everything right, I'm saving up money, 226 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to be able to buy a 227 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: pretty standard house in a pretty you know, standard part 228 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: of America for another ten years at my current rate 229 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: because of where rates are, but also the cost of 230 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: housing in general. Well, you know, America is a you know, 231 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: a land of illegal immigrants. So you know, we all 232 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: have to pitch in. We have to pay the price. 233 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: And that's what the Democrats don't really tell you, but 234 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: that's the reality that they're facing. And when you see 235 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: this piling up in a place like New York City, 236 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: it becomes all too a parent, all too clear what 237 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: the real costs and consequences of this actually are. And 238 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: they're now going to pretend that they want to clean 239 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: up the mess. And I'm the one to tell you 240 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: they cause this mess and they will cause it again. 241 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: They spill this milk all over the kitchen floor, and 242 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: they've been doing it for years now. They're saying, oh 243 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: my gosh, did Sartain wine spill milk on the floor. 244 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: And as soon as the election happens, they're gonna be saying, 245 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: we need more milk on the floor, let's go. They 246 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: don't care. They think this is to their benefit. They 247 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: broke this system and act like it happened naturally. They 248 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: chose this. You have to understand. They chose this. And 249 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: the only way it stops is if enough of the 250 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: American people vote them out of power and we put 251 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: Republicans in place who are going to we're going to 252 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: lock down illegal crossings at the border, and yes to 253 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: pourt a lot of people send them back to their 254 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: home countries who are not supposed to be in this country. Otherwise, 255 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: just let's stop pretending that we have an immigration system. 256 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: What's the point Why have immigration laws? When is the 257 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: law of the law not on this issue, but it 258 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: is on everything else. 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You know, hey, it's Christmas time. Now, 338 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: let's talk about abuse of the legal system to destroy 339 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: an opponent of the Democrats and the rule of law. 340 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: We've got Rudy Giuliani, who I'm gonna I want to 341 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: say this just up front. I don't really have a 342 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: like a personal you know, we know each other a 343 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: little bit at dinner once twice. I don't know Rudy 344 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: Giuliani very well. I know his son better than I 345 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 2: know him. His son was in my brother's year and 346 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: his class in school growing up in New York Andrew. 347 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: Andrew's a very nice guy. But I'm not impartial, right 348 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: I I couldn't pretend they couldn't put me on the 349 00:19:54,760 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: Giuliani jury as an impartial juror, because I will forever 350 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: be grateful for what he did for New York City 351 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: when I lived there, when I when I was growing 352 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: up there in the nineties, in the early nineties, when 353 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: it was the most violent and crazy really that city 354 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: ever was to the point where when I graduated in 355 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: high school, New York City was a jewel of a city. 356 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 2: It was just doing phenomenally well, very safe, just it was. 357 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: It was incredible, I mean, to live through. To live 358 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: in New York from nineteen ninety to the year two 359 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: thousand was to see a transformation that felt almost surreal, 360 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: almost impossible. And Rudi Giuliani was at the forefront of 361 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: that transformation, right. He wasn't the only one in thousands 362 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: of people in the NYPD and prosecutors and you know, 363 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: different city workers, and I get it. It was an all 364 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: hands on deck thing. But he was the leader, you know, 365 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: he was the general of that army, so to speak, 366 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: and so he gets credit for the victory at some level. 367 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: So I always will appreciate him for that. And you know, 368 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's I think, especially these days 369 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: where so much of the news cycle is driven by 370 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: tearing people down, you know, I don't you know, I 371 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: always will will be appreciative of what Donald Trump did 372 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: by beating Hillary Clinton. Clinton in twenty sixteen and putting 373 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: himself in the position he did as president and doing 374 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: the job that he did wasn't perfect. I have some 375 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: criticisms of it, but I will always be grateful, you know, 376 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: just like I'm grateful to Governor Ron de Santis for 377 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: running the state of Florida as well as he has 378 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: and did during COVID. I am grateful for people that 379 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: do good things that help a lot of people. Now 380 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: this brings me to the defamation trial. I was gonna say, like, 381 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: I am grateful to Nicky Haley for the boost in 382 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: Boeing stock. I'm just kidding. That's a joke. That's a joke, 383 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: Nicki Haley fans don't get mad at me, all right. 384 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: They get very very feisty sometimes. So the Giuliani defamation trial, 385 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: he lost. This just came out on Friday. This is 386 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: a trial around a civil trial around the defamation of 387 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: two ballot processing workers in the twenty twenty election. You 388 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: might have seen this already, but he's ordered to pay 389 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty eight million dollars. One hundred and 390 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: forty eight million dollars. It's about three times. This was 391 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: a DC jury, mind you, this is brought in DC because, 392 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: you know, shopping for the right jurisdiction, as Democrats know, 393 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: it is incredibly important. I mean, DC has just become 394 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: the place where if you can get, if you can 395 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: bring your action against a Republican criminal, civil whatever in DC. 396 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: It is about as fair and honest as like the 397 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: Jacob Jacobin Committee for Public Safety run by Robespierre for 398 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: those of you who are French Revolution fans. I mean, 399 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: it's just there is no right of you know, there 400 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: there is no fairness in this whatsoever. But this DC 401 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: jury basically tripled the award that the plaintiff's attorneys wanted. 402 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 2: I think they want to let me check to make 403 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: sure I have this right. I think they wanted. Yeah, 404 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: they asked for forty eight million, and the DC jury, 405 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: on its own volition, brought that number up to one 406 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: hundred and forty eight million dollars. One hundred and forty 407 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: eight million dollars for defamation. Really, I mean, like, can 408 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: I can I win one hundred and fifty million dollars 409 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: defamation settlement? Like someone's going to defae me so I 410 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: can sue them for one hundred fifty million dollars. This 411 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: is insane Rudy Giuliani doesn't have one hundred fifty million dollars. 412 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know if he has a million dollars 413 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: these days. He's been through a lot. He's been through 414 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: a lot with the legal bills and you know, trying 415 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: to run the legal strategies with for Trump and everything else. 416 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: And you know, is Rudy being left on the field 417 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: here as a soldier for the America First movement and 418 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: kind of be left high and dry. I mean, I 419 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: leave that to you, but I'll say this, the message 420 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: is received on this point. One hundred and forty eight 421 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: million dollar verdict. That's meant to say you, if you 422 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: are a Republican and you question elections and you step 423 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: out of line and they decide to go after you 424 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: and bring a case against you in DC, they will 425 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: bankrupt you, ruin your reputation, and ruin your life. And 426 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 2: they won't even pretend like that's not what's going on. 427 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: Because what else is the point of one hundred and 428 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: fifty million dollar verdict. Okay, let's think one hundred and 429 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: forty eight million. Let's think about this for a second. 430 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: Why jack that number up so high? And also, I 431 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: understand people going to say, oh, a judge is going 432 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: to lower it, and I'll like, yeah, yeah, But this is 433 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: a this is a court proceeding in DC, and this 434 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: is the outcome. And it just makes it all look 435 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: like a farce, doesn't it. Our rule of law, our 436 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 2: criminal justice system, is one of the most important things 437 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: we have in this country. And I would argue that 438 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: the politicized targeting of people on the right not just 439 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 2: trump a lot of people on the right by the 440 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: justice system and the two standards of justice, the two 441 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: tier justice system we have where people on the left 442 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: are excused or shown mercy or even encouraged by the 443 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: state and people on the right, whether it's someone who 444 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: is blocking access or blocking access to an abortion clinic. 445 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing? That's our most fundamental right to walk 446 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: unimpeded to a abortion clinic, an abattoir for infants. It's horrific, 447 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: horrific what goes on in these places. But nonetheless, state 448 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: will come down mightily on a pro life activist, at 449 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: least under the Biden administration. And what are we left with, Well, 450 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: as we see here, you're left with cases like the 451 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: Giuliani case one hundred and forty eight million dollar verdict 452 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: against him. How is that? I mean the future. Does 453 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 2: anyone think that these two women were going to earn 454 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars that have now been taken 455 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: from them? But look at what's going on with the 456 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: defamation case for the you know, the different corporate defamation 457 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: cases that are out there, the law and the amounts 458 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: that have been paid out. This is all gearing up 459 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: for the next election. You understand this, right, This is sending, 460 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: as I said, sending a message. Yeah, you can't get 461 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: justice if you're a Republican, but if you want to 462 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: speak out in the next election. I mean, people ask 463 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: me to say, Buck, how do you know the next 464 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: one's not gonna have problems? I can't promise you that. 465 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's the guy who sits around reading 466 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: all day and tries to bring you the best information 467 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: he can. I don't have a magic wand to tell 468 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: you that all the election shenanigans are fixed. I think 469 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: it would be naive to assume they're all fixed. But 470 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: the message is being sent that if you speak out 471 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: against this, if you don't accept what you are told 472 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: to accept by the Democrat machine, it's not just that 473 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 2: you're gonna be ridiculed and mocked and all that stuff. 474 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: You know you're gonna be brought into him. Really, look 475 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: at what we've seen happening over the last few years. 476 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 2: Look at what they have done to people. The chief 477 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: prosecutor for America's largest city, New York City, Alvin Bragg, 478 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: is bringing charges that could and a presidential candidate to 479 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: prison based upon him not filing the correct campaign paperwork 480 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: about paying hush money to a harassment lawsuit which he 481 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: clearly could not have used campaign funds for, or else 482 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: he could pay all. You know, people could pay off 483 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: all their hush money lawsuits with campaign funds. It makes 484 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: no sense. But this is how crazy things have got. 485 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: This is how absurd it all is now. And people 486 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: will say the last well, do we still have the 487 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: best system in the world. I guess I haven't spent 488 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: a lot of time in other legal systems, but ours 489 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: is getting a lot worse. It's getting a lot shakier. 490 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: And a part of this that is the most unsettling 491 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways is and you know this 492 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: is true, the people who are doing the most damage 493 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: to our system are the people who are the most 494 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: certain they are preserving it. The ones who give the 495 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: speeches about threats to our democracy and the ones who 496 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: say Trump is a fascist and you need to protect 497 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: our institutions, they are burning down these institutions of government. 498 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: They are burning down these institutions of justice in order 499 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: to save them. That doesn't work out very well. And 500 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: what we see with the Giuliani verdict, I think is 501 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: just part of this whole movement of justice system weaponization. 502 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: No I was just talking about what they do to 503 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: pro life activists. They make it as difficult as possible 504 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: for them, and those pro life activists just want to 505 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: save tiny babies lives. And now not everyone is going 506 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: to show up, obviously and want to confront the evil 507 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: that exists out there in the world with planned parenthood 508 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 2: and the abortion industry. But you can help those who do. 509 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: You can help those who find ways to save lives, 510 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: like the Preborn Network of Clinics. Preborn has rescued thousands 511 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: and thousands of babies. Every day. They rescue two hundred 512 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: unborn babies with your support, but it all requires donations 513 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: from you and me the pro life community. What they 514 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: do is they give an ultrasound to pregnant mothers who 515 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: are honestly terrified about the decision they're going to make. 516 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: They're on the edge, they're thinking what am I going 517 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: to do? And Preborn says, look, just come here to 518 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: our clinic. Let us give you a free ultrasound, let 519 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: us talk to you about this, let us introduce you 520 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: to the tiny life in your womb, and then the 521 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: decision is yours as a function of law, decision belongs 522 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: to that mother, but they want to introduce that mother 523 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: to her baby. When this process happens, it's done with 524 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: care and love and support. The chance of that baby 525 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: being given life goes up substantially. And this is how 526 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: Preborn is saving babies lives day in and day out. 527 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: Would you consider sponsoring us for as many days of 528 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: life as you can before the year ends. I know 529 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: it's a big ask, but someone out there right now 530 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: has five thousand dollars. It's entirely tax deductible, and this 531 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: all goes toward Preborn's mission of saving babies' lives. Someone 532 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: out there has five thousand dollars to underwrite this network 533 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: for twenty four hours. Is there a better way to 534 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: spend five thousand dollars right now? For those who have it, 535 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: and a lot of you don't have it. And I 536 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: get that, and times are tough. But for someone out there, 537 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: two hundred tiny babies going to don't come into this 538 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: world and then they grow up and they have lives 539 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: and they have families. This is a wonderful thing that 540 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: Preborn is doing and you can be a part of it. 541 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: But you know, if you've got twenty eight bucks, Okay, really, 542 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: how many of us out there have twenty eight bucks 543 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: to donate to this? A lot of people, so every 544 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: little bit helps. If you can do leadership gift, fine, 545 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: but that's fantastic. But if you can just do whatever 546 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: you can, twenty eight dollars will sponsor an ultrasound. All 547 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: gifts are tax deductible, and now through a match, your 548 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: gift is doubled. So if you can give that twenty 549 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: eight bucks, well it's actually two ultrasounds. Now it's fifty 550 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: six dollars that go toward it. Dial pound two fifty 551 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: from your cell phone, say the keyword baby. That's pound 552 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: two five zero, Say baby, or donate securely at preborn 553 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: dot com, slash buck that's preborn dot com. 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Some troubling data about the views that the 563 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: youth eighteen to twenty four I think is the or 564 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty five in the poll have about Israel 565 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: and Palestine, and just more broadly also about white people. 566 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: And if we have time, I will get to the 567 00:32:53,680 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: issue of the removal of a civil war civil or 568 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: monument from Arlington Cemetery that is underway. We will discuss that. 569 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 2: If not in the third hour, then certainly we'll get 570 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: to that tomorrow. Because I'm here solo this week. Clay 571 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: is on vacation. Hopefully he's already, you know, fasing around 572 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: some kangaroos and having a great time down in Australia. 573 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: We have Mark in San Antonio. What's going on? Mark? 574 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 4: Hey there? Yeah, I was you were asking what are 575 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: we missing when it comes to what the Democrats have 576 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 4: in store for us next year and the election. I 577 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 4: think I think the key element that we haven't talked 578 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 4: about enough, but you did touch on it in the 579 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: last segment though, and I think you're on the right 580 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 4: track there. But I think the key variable that we're 581 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: missing on that equation is when it comes to the Democrats, 582 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 4: we're not just talking about a political party. We're talking 583 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 4: about a criminal organization. And rather than ask ourselves what 584 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 4: would a shady politician be doing in a circumstance, we 585 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 4: need to be asking ourselves what would a crime lord 586 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 4: be doing in a circumstance? And so, for example, what 587 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: would Pablo Ascobar do if he if he had the 588 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 4: opportunity to be in these shoes? Would he imprison his 589 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 4: political opponents? 590 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: Yes? 591 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 4: He would? Would he would he do the sorts of 592 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 4: things that Nisi Dicis was investigating in two thousand Meals documentary? 593 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: Would he kick out election observers during the election night 594 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 4: and do what they did? I think we need to 595 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 4: look at this through the lens of what would a 596 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 4: criminal organization do next year if they were in the 597 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 4: Democrat shoes? And I think will me be in a 598 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: much better position to predict what will happen. 599 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you mentioned Denesh, and I've been reading 600 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: Danesh for a long time, and no, Dnesh and hold 601 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: him in high regard. And the way they went after 602 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 2: him for a campaign finance issue. Now, look, he admits 603 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: that he broke the law, so I'm not here to 604 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: say he didn't break the law. He broke the law 605 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: and he knew what he was doing was wrong. But 606 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: you know, I also have sometimes failed to pay my 607 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: parking meter, and you know they don't they don't send 608 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 2: a swat team to my house, right. I mean, there's 609 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: the law, and there's the law. Nobody go to prison 610 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: for what Denesh did, generally speaking, and I think they 611 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 2: made him go to a I mean the charge him 612 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: with the felony and they made him go to a 613 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: halfway house for a while. I mean, they really excessively 614 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: punished him for that. And it's because he's Dunesh. Now 615 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: he's been pardoned by President Trump. So no, that's nice 616 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: for him, that's obviously a help. But this is what 617 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: keeps happening if you are a high profile Republican. I mean, 618 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 2: think about this. I'm a son of New York City. 619 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: I feel born and raised there. Do I think I'd 620 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 2: have a more if I was accused of some crime, 621 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: but I have a more fair trial after decades of 622 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: living in New York City and even having worked for 623 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: a period of time at the NYPD or in South Florida. 624 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: The answer is South Florida. It's just the truth. The 625 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: answer is I'm more likely to get a fair jury 626 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: and a fair trial in a state that I've lived 627 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: in for a year. And that's not the way it 628 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 2: should be, folks, That's not the way it should be 629 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: in this country. We are losing some thing very precious 630 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: about our society day in and day out, and Democrats 631 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: path themselves on the back as they do it. I mean, 632 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: they're destroying our republic and posing as heroes of democracy 633 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: as they do it. It's galling, all right. Like I said, 634 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to you about this. This data, 635 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 2: when you look at young people and their views of 636 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: Israel and Palestine, it ties in with a lot. It 637 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: ties in with the ruckus around university presidents recently, and 638 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: anti Semitism. It could tie in with this election too, 639 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 2: depends on how the youth vote shows up or doesn't. 640 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 2: Will dive into that and more coming up on play 641 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 2: and bu