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Speaker 2: All right, now, this streak does not happen often. We'll

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Speaker 2: explain that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and Andy Firman, and we're broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And by the way, I

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Speaker 2: nothing but safety. God bless them, God bless America. And

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Speaker 2: we move on. Maybe we could take your mind off

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Speaker 2: that for a couple of hours here talking sports today.

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Speaker 2: So we do that. All right, we move on, and

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Speaker 2: Bucky's getting dressed. He'll be with us in a minute

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Speaker 2: or so. But right now, I got to talk about

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Speaker 2: what's happening in the National Basketball Association. Obviously, Game seven

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Speaker 2: the two best words in sports, game seven. And I'm

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Speaker 2: They may very well be Opening Day or game winner,

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Speaker 2: Game seven. I don't know. I'm not so certain. But

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Speaker 2: tonight it is a Game seven in Oklahoma City against

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Speaker 2: the Pacers. And the Pacers rolled over those Oklahoma City

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Speaker 2: and you gotta wonder, how does that possibly affect the

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Speaker 2: game tonight? All right, Oklahoma City was embarrassed, But can

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Speaker 2: the Pacers repeated? Will they sit in their laurels? Perhaps?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. And some of the stats on the season,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. I don't even know what this means, but

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Speaker 2: it's a stat that I think needs to be discussed.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City had only a two game losing streak twice

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Speaker 2: during the regular season. They've only lost twice back to

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you throw these things out the

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, I don't know. Maybe it means something

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Speaker 2: we'll see, but it's something to remember put in the

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Speaker 2: back to back losses in these playoff series and that

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Speaker 2: means something as well. I only had six steals in

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Speaker 2: that game. Six. Where was the defense? That's a question

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Speaker 2: right there. It's up and down, in and out whatever

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Speaker 2: it may be. And the GSA where was he? How

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Speaker 2: was he stopped? GSA? And Terrese Haliburton, They've been the topics.

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Speaker 2: They've certainly been the topics of discussion right now during

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Speaker 2: the NBA players. But to me, TJ McConnell, who has

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Speaker 2: now been the first bench player in the NBA history,

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Speaker 2: twenty five plus assists, and fifteen plus rebounds in an

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Speaker 2: NBA finals And if the writers, hey, any hanging downs

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Speaker 2: right now, and the Paces were to win tonight, he's

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Speaker 2: TJ McConnell gets this team going, opens up the offense,

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Speaker 2: He's a kid right now, and you look at his background,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't even look like an NBA player went to Ducane,

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Speaker 2: man in the National Basketball Association. It's unbelievable, it really is.

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Speaker 2: Paces will be the underdogs tonight. They've been the underdogs

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Speaker 2: all season long. Maybe maybe that's why they've been so successful.

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Speaker 2: This is unreal if you remember, and really and truly

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Speaker 2: a dominant second quarter set the paces at the head

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Speaker 2: Another great performance off the bench off the bench twelve points,

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Speaker 2: far as HALLI Burton was concerned fourteen points, five assists

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Speaker 2: All right, the discussion I heard all week long? Would

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Speaker 2: he didn't look any worse to me playing that game

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Speaker 2: They have a lot of pride, and they got out

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Speaker 2: Tyres Haliburton was not going to play please, I mean,

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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of these guys don't even play.

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Speaker 3: Agree, greatest athletes in world soccer players over football players.

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Speaker 3: Say soccer players over basketball players. Soccer players because they're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, stop and start going. All the way back to college.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that. And look, I'm not pointing fingers.

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Speaker 2: I don't think these guys could even walk a forty

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Speaker 2: Now, let's get back to this NBA thing. I did

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Speaker 1: Is like a snowflake. It's its own individual game.

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Speaker 3: And even though they win by thirty forty points, there's

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Speaker 2: Up right because to me, it wasn't the law. So

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean anything. Nothing means anything. Now, all those stats

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Speaker 2: Right, I will say this. You know, the term superstar.

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Speaker 2: You cannot go like a roller coaster. And that's basically

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Speaker 2: That's the difference between a star player and a superstar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Being an MVP, we get a chance.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's great. I don't think there's anything like it.

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Speaker 1: That's what the great ones have been able to do.

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Speaker 2: We gotta ask bucket coming up in about ten twelve

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Speaker 2: minutes from now. But Caitlin Clark is in the news

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Speaker 2: for all the wrong reasons. She's being used as a

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Speaker 2: punching bag in the WNBA. I want to know why,

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. Is it intentional? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 3: It's intentional. It's intentional because she's a good player. And

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Speaker 3: if you think about the ways that you try and

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Speaker 3: stop a good player, if you can't defend her straight

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Speaker 3: up in what you do is you increase the physicality

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Speaker 3: that you bring to the player. So when you play

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Speaker 3: with more force, you try and knock them off the spot,

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Speaker 3: and if she shows you that physicality is a problem,

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Speaker 3: then you ramp it up even more. I don't think

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Speaker 3: this is a targeted attack like anything beyond that part

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Speaker 3: of it. I think, if anything, is the rest of

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Speaker 3: the WNBA paying respect to her that Look, her game

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Speaker 3: is so nice. Let's see if we can disrupt her.

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Speaker 3: See we can change up some of the things that

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Speaker 3: we're doing. Let's that had a little more physical than

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Speaker 3: see how she handles and reacts to that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's important in sports to have a villain

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Speaker 2: because when you have a villain, it sells tickets. You know,

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Speaker 2: people either love or hate the villain. They're creating a

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Speaker 2: villain in Caitlin Clark, and it's not healthy. I don't

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Speaker 2: think this helps the league. I think the league could

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Speaker 2: stand on its own. They got some great players besides

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark, and I just don't understand why this is happening.

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Speaker 2: And really it's almost it's disgusting to see because it

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Speaker 2: was just the other night she was poked in the

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Speaker 2: eye by J. C. Sheldon by the Connecticut son and

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Speaker 2: the two got into it after the whistle was blown,

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Speaker 2: and Clark gave Shelton a little bit of a shove

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Speaker 2: and Tina Charles came in and Marina Maybley came in

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Speaker 2: and they shoved Clark to the ground. I mean it

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Speaker 2: has to stop. And I blame the officials. I also

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Speaker 2: blame the commissioner of the league. I just don't understand

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Speaker 2: why they're not tougher on this, because, yes, she's a star,

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Speaker 2: she's helping sell out a lot of these arena is

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Speaker 2: and she's taken the league to another level, which I

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Speaker 2: think in the minds of many of these girls that

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Speaker 2: are playing in the league, or young ladies or women

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Speaker 2: so to speak, they're not happy. They're not happy that

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Speaker 2: she's getting all the accolades and they know that they're

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Speaker 2: part of the league as well. But they should be

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Speaker 2: They should be that foolish to realize that she is

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Speaker 2: raising the level of the league. She's raising the exposure

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Speaker 2: of the league for everyone, not just for her.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: But like, here's the thing, and I think we contribute

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Speaker 3: to it because we go so over the top with

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Speaker 3: our opinions on Kaitlyn Clark in terms of the rest

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Speaker 3: of the league, like bow down and kiss her feet

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Speaker 3: because of what has happened since she entered league. I

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Speaker 3: think Kaylyn Clark certainly deserves a lot of credit for

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Speaker 3: bringing attention to the WNBA, but there are a bunch

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Speaker 3: of other great women who were getting it done in

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Speaker 3: the WNBA prior to Kaitlyn Clark, and some of those

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Speaker 3: came in when Kaitlyn Clark came in. So she is

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Speaker 3: kind of the eye of the perfect storm that has

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Speaker 3: created all this interest.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: She does not get any preferential treatment. The same treatment

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Speaker 3: that Lebron and Kobe and MJ and everyone got in

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Speaker 3: the NBA when they were kind of on their rise.

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Speaker 1: To the top. It's the same treatment that she's getting.

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Speaker 3: People are bumping her around, they're knocking around, They're trying

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Speaker 3: to test how tough she is mentally and physically.

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Speaker 1: To see if she can go to another level. Now,

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Speaker 1: if she.

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Speaker 3: Crumbles under the pressure of to increase physicality towards her,

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Speaker 3: then that's on her and they're going to continue to

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Speaker 3: do it. But if she surpasses that, they'll move on

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Speaker 3: to other tactics. But this is a part of basketball.

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Speaker 3: Like basketball, you hear them talk about playing with force

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Speaker 3: in the NBA, so you know.

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Speaker 1: It translates to the w NBA. She's been a part

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 3: But because there's so many eyeballs on it, that's why

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Speaker 3: she's getting more attention about her. But they're not doing

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Speaker 3: they're not treating her any different, and they treat any

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Speaker 3: of the other great players like you ramp it up

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Speaker 3: against those players.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because I said, coming into the seventh

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Speaker 2: these are the right words to say, but it came

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Speaker 2: from the wrong person. What I mean by that is

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Speaker 2: that Caitlyn Clark's college coach, Leitza Blutah basically comes out

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Speaker 2: and says that she coached Caitlin for four years at Iowa.

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Speaker 2: I said that the WNB officials have to start calling

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Speaker 2: more fouls. Who should force players to change their games? Okay,

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Speaker 2: number one, I guess she meant by that that it

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be as physical. What does she mean by that

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Speaker 2: to force the players to change their games? And why

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Speaker 2: is Lisa saying this? Why is the commission of the

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Speaker 2: league saying this? Why is a former college coach saying this?

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Speaker 1: To me?

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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing. The really is, But how would they change

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Speaker 2: the game? Buck? I mean, you're a follower of this game,

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Speaker 2: and what would happened?

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Speaker 3: It's not embarrassing her former coach is coming to her

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Speaker 3: defense and protecting her.

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Speaker 1: Like if all.

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Speaker 3: Former coaches could take care of their players, they would

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Speaker 3: want none of their players to be touched. They want

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Speaker 3: them to let Caitlyn Clark skate to the hoop and

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Speaker 3: shoot as many shots as she wanted to shoot. That's

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Speaker 3: not basketball, that's not the way that it should be done.

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Speaker 3: She has to go through some things so she can

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Speaker 3: get over the top. The commissioner isn't say anything because

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Speaker 3: the game is in a place a little competitive conflict

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Speaker 3: is good. Having villains good, increases interest.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. She's okay. She can handle a little contact.

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Speaker 3: She's not the first one to have to endure some

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Speaker 3: hard fouls and some talking. And look, as much as

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Speaker 3: people are focusing on what's happening to her, she's a

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Speaker 3: little mouthy and lippy too. She talks, she says subtle

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Speaker 3: things up under her breath to players, and so they

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Speaker 3: take their shots when they can. We can't protect her.

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Speaker 3: She's not a damsel in the stress. She's okay. She

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Speaker 3: can handle what's being thrown at her. We don't need

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Speaker 3: to come in there and save her and like, oh,

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Speaker 3: don't touch her, Like no, we want to see this.

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Speaker 3: This is great competitive conflict is good, little physicality, a

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Speaker 3: little toughness watching her go through it. And if she's

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Speaker 3: able to go through and lead her team to a title,

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Speaker 3: well then even that much more respect will be play

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Speaker 3: paced to her. We just need to see her go

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Speaker 3: through it. We can't just jump in and save her.

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Speaker 3: She's okay.

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Speaker 2: I mean, game on Tuesday night, the Clark and Cholls

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Speaker 2: and maybe as well, they all got teased Sheldon. She

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Speaker 2: was rejected from the game and hit with a flagrant one.

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Speaker 2: So was Sophie cunning him, and then they upgraded it

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Speaker 2: to a flagrant II and they were fine.

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Speaker 1: All right, so the league, that's fine, But did you

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Speaker 1: see what? Did you see what happened?

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Speaker 3: Do you see what happened after Sophie Cunningham got the

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Speaker 3: flagrant and stepped up?

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Speaker 1: You see how her popularity is shot through the roof. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ig followers.

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Speaker 3: Have gone up like quarter billion, a quarter of a

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Speaker 3: million in terms of that. She's now become another person

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Speaker 3: that people were paying attention to. They already paid attention

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Speaker 3: to her because of the swag and the energy she

586
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Speaker 3: brought on top of her game, but.

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Speaker 1: Now people didn't.

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Speaker 3: Know that she had that in her, that she could

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Speaker 3: be a little violent. She had a little Craig Crey

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Speaker 3: enter when she needed it. So now she's more popular,

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Speaker 3: which brings more eyeballs to the game and that team.

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Speaker 1: So it's all good. It's never bad.

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Speaker 3: It's not like we're clicking the TV off because we're

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Speaker 3: seeing Caitlin Clark and others is getting knocked to the floor.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, okay, so now what you're telling me. And

596
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Speaker 2: looked at Sophie Cunningham. I mean, she's got a lot

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00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: of eyeballs there anyway, because the way she looks, she's

598
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Speaker 2: sort of a model, right. I think she's a professional model,

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Speaker 2: whatever it may be. But you know, I think these

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Speaker 2: players look at that and say, look, if I want

601
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Speaker 2: to get some endorsements, I got to get clicks, and

602
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: maybe this is the way to get clicks. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: that goes through their mind too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, all of it, I mean all of it.

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Speaker 3: All of it is part of the thing. Look at

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Speaker 3: it the WWE.

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00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: That's what we're having. It's a little bit of the WWE.

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Speaker 3: Not a scripted reality show, but it's very similar to you.

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Speaker 1: Have to have some good you have to have some bad.

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Speaker 3: When you have a villain and a hero, it all

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Speaker 3: works together because we watch, whether we love them or

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00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: hate them, it makes us tune in and there are

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Speaker 3: more people watching because of all of this, and so

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Speaker 3: that's why we're having more opinions. The only time is

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Speaker 3: annoying is the casuals. They kind of jump in or

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Speaker 3: have only jumped in since Caitlin Clark has on the

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Speaker 3: beIN in at the forefront of the women's hoops movement,

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Speaker 3: and so everyone has these big opinions that haven't watched

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Speaker 3: the game or haven't watched the development of the game.

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Speaker 3: And she, like so many others who have been great,

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Speaker 3: they this is the treatment that you get. Like if

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Speaker 3: I was coaching against her, I would tell, like, our ladies,

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Speaker 3: they knock her down a little bit, Let's see see

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Speaker 3: how tough she is. That's a part of it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Look, I've done that in little flag football with little

627
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Speaker 3: people like that's what you do. Like you try and

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Speaker 3: see can you rattle their cage a little bit?

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Speaker 2: How much can they how much can they take? You know,

630
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Speaker 2: because I think they're right to lose your cool, but

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Speaker 2: you lose your your mindset as to what you're supposed

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Speaker 2: to be doing in the game and you think of

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Speaker 2: other things. I mean, you're not there with your game plan.

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Speaker 2: It throws you off your deal, it does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you get distracted. So can you disrupt her rhythm?

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Speaker 3: Can you distract her? Can you change her focus where

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00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: she becomes more emotional about those things that are being

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Speaker 3: done and she's less focused on her job and the

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Speaker 3: task at hand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, any advantage.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to do anything that you can to throw

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Speaker 3: her off her game and throw the rest of the

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Speaker 3: team off their game.

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Speaker 1: So that's a part of it.

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Speaker 3: That's why I don't think the commissioner and others are

646
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Speaker 3: freaking out. That's what I think is more of the

647
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: hysteria from our vantage point as opposed to internally. I

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Speaker 3: don't think this is anything new, and in fact, you've

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Speaker 3: heard players say and saying that new. This is kind

650
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Speaker 3: of what.

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Speaker 2: Happens interesting, you know, it's funny to add to kind

652
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Speaker 2: of a feature. I think it was in the Athletic

653
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Speaker 2: the other day by Unlesa Blue to the coach of Iowa,

654
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: and they asked the question, when there's someone who receives

655
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Speaker 2: a lot of attention like Caitlyn Clark did, even at Iowa.

656
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Speaker 2: But you have a team full of great people and

657
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: great players. What do you do? And she came back

658
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: and said, you can't ignore it. If you ignore it,

659
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Speaker 2: you're in trouble. And she said, we tell our team

660
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: a lot. When Caitlyn's light shines, it shines on all

661
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 2: of us. We all read the benefits from that. So

662
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: instead of being jealous about it, let's enjoy it. And

663
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: it was getting the rest of the team to buy

664
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Speaker 2: into that. And now, look, you played in the NFL.

665
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: You play with some stars. Is it like that? Or

666
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: people say, hey, look he's going to get us to

667
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: the Promised Land? How does it work in the pro

668
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: game like that with the NFL?

669
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Speaker 1: Oh no, it worked. It works very very similar.

670
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Speaker 3: You know, the more people are focused on, whether it's

671
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: one individual player or a handful of players, the better

672
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: it is on everybody. They may catch you by looking

673
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: at somebody else. We've heard those stories and recruiting in

674
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: those things. It's the same. If you're on a good

675
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: team surrounded by good players, you're gonna have an opportunity.

676
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Speaker 1: To be seen. That's what everyone wants.

677
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: So if you can get everyone to set aside the

678
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: jealousy and those things, it becomes a really really good thing.

679
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: So it shouldn't be something that is viewed as negatively.

680
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: It should be positive. Okay, they're giving her a little love. Well,

681
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: if they keep seeing her, they gonna see me.

682
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Speaker 1: Yeah. If you can get your.

683
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 3: Team to buy into that part of it, then everyone

684
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to benefit from the increase attention and

685
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: stuff that's on her.

686
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Speaker 2: But blue to say, you can't ignore it as a coach.

687
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: Did they ignore in the NFL? I can see coaches

688
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: in the NFL ignoring it. Then we'll concern with the

689
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: game plan than telling players how to act and don't

690
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Speaker 2: be jealous.

691
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: It's a relationship business, so you have to talk to

692
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Speaker 3: you players. You have to be honest with what's going on.

693
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: You can't sugarcoat it. You want them to know. And

694
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: in doing that, you alleviate some of the pressure on

695
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Speaker 3: the star player, because sometimes they can put the star

696
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: player in a weird spot depending on what their personality.

697
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: Are they outgoing, are they introverted? Do they like the attention?

698
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: Do they really not like the attention? Would they rather

699
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: have it spread on others? So that's why you have

700
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Speaker 3: to address it for the team, and a lot of

701
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Speaker 3: It depends on how your star of responds to that.

702
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: So good coaches are able to read the room and

703
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: they make the right choices.

704
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Speaker 2: Now now, blue To continues said that as a freshman,

705
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Speaker 2: Kaitlyn didn't understand how to work with other people as

706
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: much because she was always the show. But get this,

707
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: she said, and this is interesting. There were a couple

708
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Speaker 2: of players who transferred after Caitlyn's freshman year because it

709
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: was hard for Caitlyn to get along with the other

710
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: guys and the other players on the team, and then

711
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: she finally learned how to develop her leadership skills. That's interesting.

712
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: Players transferred out of Iowa because they didn't want to

713
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Speaker 2: play with her because she was the star.

714
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Speaker 3: Interesting more so, But listen to what you said, and

715
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: she said this because I've seen the videos where she's

716
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: talked about like being a bad teammate and how she

717
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: worked with sports psychologists to become a better teammate.

718
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Speaker 1: And a lot of times they would take.

719
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Speaker 3: Her to the side and they would have her look

720
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Speaker 3: at the tape, but not of what she was doing

721
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Speaker 3: on the court, but her body language, the way that

722
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: she talked to her teammates, the way that she would

723
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Speaker 3: react demonstratively if her teammate missed a shout or mister

724
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Speaker 3: pass or did those things, and how that made the

725
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Speaker 3: teammates feel.

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Speaker 1: She has a lot of power.

727
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Speaker 3: She has a lot of power as the best player

728
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Speaker 3: on the court, and she has the power to uplift

729
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: or she can tear down and trying to get her

730
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Speaker 3: to create a positive environment by being encouraging as opposed

731
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Speaker 3: to chastising or criticizing. That was a big part of

732
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: her experience at Iowa and when she turned the corner,

733
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Speaker 3: that's when the team really went to the next level.

734
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Speaker 3: It's something that her teammates in Indiana had to learn

735
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Speaker 3: and it's something that we all have to kind of

736
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: get it. Like, look, she's not the perfect person, perfect

737
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: player in terms of a doing all the things right,

738
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Speaker 3: Like she has some things that has to be ironed out,

739
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: and her coach just kind of alluded to that.

740
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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's something to be seen.

741
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Speaker 2: Interesting. Bucky Brooks he ironed it out years ago. I

742
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Speaker 2: mean de firma together with Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

743
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Speaker 2: Sports Ready. I now we did call them the answer Man, yes,

744
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Speaker 2: but you call him Bucky Brooks as Bucky as next.

745
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746
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747
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748
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Speaker 2: Bucky coming right up right here about eleven minutes before

749
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: the top of the hour on Fox Sports Sunday. He's

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we are live from

751
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Speaker 2: the Fox Bots Radio studios, and of course it's that time,

752
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: so let's do it, Patty as Bucky.

753
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Speaker 5: All right, Well, Bucky, I got a question for you here,

754
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 5: So all right, what we got? What we got here?

755
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 5: So with Game seven you know about to commence today

756
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 5: and all that good stuff, and you know, NBA crescendos

757
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 5: down to a halt. Well about not even a week later,

758
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 5: we have the NBA Draft, right and then free agency.

759
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: Like my question to you, Buck, is, isn't it a

760
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: little close of a you know, going from all right

761
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 5: to immediately back right into it with that's been a

762
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 5: little too quick to let it breathe, No.

763
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: Not too quick at all. Let's get right to it.

764
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: Let's move turn to page. Let's go right to the

765
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 3: next year. It's always been.

766
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: Done like that. Like I kind of enjoy that part.

767
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: You go to the finals, you see the finals and

768
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: by the time you get to Wednesday Thursday, we're on

769
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: to the next. So to me think it it's okay

770
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: to have it back to back like that.

771
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: So, no, it's not too close.

772
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 5: Anything else, Patty, No, that was honestly, that was the

773
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 5: biggest one I had. That was a chomping at the

774
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: bed for that one. I'm all good. Now, it's not

775
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: all you, Andy, I didn't.

776
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: Say you're all good, but we'll move on anyway. Okay,

777
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: you're all games all right? Game seven tonight of the

778
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: NBA Oklahoma City hosting the Pacers of Indianapolis. Bucky Brooks,

779
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: what is sports? In your mind? Is better than the

780
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: final tonight?

781
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: What is that much?

782
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:30,479
Speaker 6: Man?

783
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: Not much.

784
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: There's there's nothing more. There's nothing better than like Game seven.

785
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: Now you talk about is it game seven specific to.

786
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: Basketball?

787
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

788
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 3: Maybe I can go elsewhere, but I just think Game seven,

789
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 3: seeing the pressure that people have to perform against and under,

790
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: I love that. That's what I want to see. I

791
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 3: want to see how you perform when the pressures are highest?

792
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: Can you come through?

793
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: Interesting? Now, speaking about that, to extend this question just

794
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: a little bit, they say the best two words in

795
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: sports are Game seven, and I sort of disagree. Was

796
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: this other game? There are other words that I think

797
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: may top that, some of them Opening Day, game winner,

798
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: super Bowl? Is Game seven? The best two words in sports?

799
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Speaker 3: It is the best two words in sports. I mean,

800
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: because it doesn't get better than that. It doesn't get

801
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: better than having like one game to determine the champ

802
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: and to see can you bring it on that day.

803
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily mean that, like you're not the best

804
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: team if you don't have it, but man, you have

805
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: to be mentally and physically tough to deal with the

806
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: grind and to really handle the pressure that comes along

807
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 3: with it.

808
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 2: All Right, we talk about the best has turned the corner.

809
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: Over here, talk about the worst. What truly is the

810
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: worst month? The worst month for sports fans. I'm going

811
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: to throw out two possibilities. June or February, any other

812
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: month that you think might be the worst for sports fans.

813
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: I would say July because June, like we're almost at

814
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: the end of June. We had to final July, there

815
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: is nothing, I mean nothing going on, Like there's there's

816
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: nothing really to watch, Like baseball is in earnest, but

817
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: it hasn't got to the point where it's really serious.

818
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 1: Football doesn't start to the end of the month.

819
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: Basketball is done, hockey's done, there's nothing to watch.

820
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: Uh.

821
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: July is the month for vacation because you can go

822
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Speaker 3: on vacation and not have to worry about missing anything.

823
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why they do it. Really the weather's good

824
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: and then you know, kind of slow it down a

825
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: little bit. You could kind of get pumped up again.

826
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 2: But you didn't even mention soccer MLS is playing in July.

827
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: But you know that's done.

828
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: But no one takes Yeah, no one. No one really

829
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: watched it.

830
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: Really don't really don't.

831
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you tell me World Cup or something like that,

832
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: that would be one thing.

833
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: But no, Okay, let's talk about this sport. Joey Chestnut,

834
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna compete in the July fourth Nathan's Hot Dog

835
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: getting Contest. Is this a sport a hot dog getting contest?

836
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: Because if it is, I'm gonna enter Patty in that contest.

837
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 3: To me, No, it's not a sport. I can't, I can't.

838
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: I can't take it seriously like they can talk about

839
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: competitive eating.

840
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: It's not a sport. Yeah, not my thing. I don't

841
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: even know why they show it on ESPN.

842
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: I really get you. But here's the deal. If they show,

843
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 2: you know, pillow fighting, all right, and those other things,

844
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: I mean, you might as well show that. I mean,

845
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: because it's something so outlandish. Maybe that's why they show it.

846
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: I cannot eat probably more than two hot dogs, really,

847
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 2: and then I'm stuffed. I'm stuffed to the gills. These

848
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: guys are putting down sixty seventy. He claims he wants

849
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: to eat eighty this time. How do you do that?

850
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: How do you train for it? I mean to me,

851
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: it's like it sounds disgusting. It really does.

852
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: Oh, it is disgusting. There's nothing nice about that. Yeah,

853
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: they're gross, like no one.

854
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: Wants to deal with that.

855
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 3: Like too many dogs just makes me weird.

856
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: I can do it either way.

857
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: They just they take the bunt off and they put

858
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: the dog in the in the water. I guess they

859
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: boiling water. I don't think they chewing. I think they

860
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: just swallow it, don't they. I don't think they chew them.

861
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: It's gross.

862
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: Ye, it's discussing.

863
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. I can deal with it, you.

864
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: Know, and they were in pretty good shape, but who knows.

865
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Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk about it anymore. But these

866
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Speaker 2: teams have already won that. Add more on Fox Sports

867
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Speaker 2: Sunday coming up right here next a blessing or a

868
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 2: curse that's coming right up. Good runing, everybody. This is

869
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, he's Bucky Brooks,

870
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 2: I mean he Firmanent. We're broadcasting live from the Fox

871
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios, and away we go. Buck. How you

872
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: doing everything good right now?

873
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 6: I me.

874
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: It's about a month away from training camp. You got

875
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: to be salivating right now. Salivating I am. I'm excited

876
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: about it. Like we're getting closer to ball being kicked off.

877
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: All the teams and finish up their mini camps and stuff,

878
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: and so the only thing is left is low vacation

879
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: and then we're back to it.

880
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: But before we get there, we got NBA Game seven,

881
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: the Finals tonight, Oklahoma City hosting the Pacers of Indianapolis.

882
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: And I don't want to get into breakdowns because you know,

883
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: I know nothing, and you know a little more from

884
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: than me, obviously, but you know it means nothing. It

885
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: really means nothing. But I want to ask you, from

886
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: from an athlete's point of view, what is the one

887
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: thing to look for tonight in this game. If we're

888
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: watching this game on TV, which we will, what are

889
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 2: you looking at? How are you looking at this game

890
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: as opposed to other people?

891
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: The first thing I'm looking for is who is out

892
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: of character so very early in the game because the pressure,

893
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: So it meants who do you see trying to do

894
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: things that are out of their normal routine?

895
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: Is out of their normal role?

896
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: So is there someone who is a bench player that

897
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: all of a sudden starts jacking up.

898
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: A bunch of threes?

899
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: Does SGA or one of the star players instead of

900
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: looking to score? Are they looking to pass all the

901
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: time early in the game? Who gets out of character?

902
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: In these games we're talking about more games are lost

903
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: than one. So really it's more the avoidance of mistakes

904
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: than making big plays. And so can you avoid the mistakes?

905
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: Can you do the routine things routinely? Those are the

906
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: things that typically lead you to win games. It's not

907
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: necessarily about someone playing above their head. It's being the

908
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: same guy that you've been the entire season. It's easy

909
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: to build around those players as opposed to the up

910
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: and down players. So I just want to see if

911
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: everyone can stay within character because the teams they get

912
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 3: out of character.

913
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: Those are teams they're gonna.

914
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: Lose, you know. And the funny thing is that I

915
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: keep on hearing this term all the time. Adjustments, adjustment.

916
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: You know, hosts throw those terms out. They have no

917
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: idea what it means. Adjustments. Really, you know what adjustment is.

918
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: When you have a pair of pants on, you make

919
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: the belt, belt buckle a little tighter. That's an adjustment, right,

920
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: that's an adjustment. First of all, these two teams know

921
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: each other day and night. They know everything. They know what,

922
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: they know, how their breath is. I mean, they know

923
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: what the order they use, they know everything about it.

924
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: So there's not many adjustments you could use on these teams.

925
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: I think the only thing is is that cut down

926
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: the mistakes. The key to this series, in my mind,

927
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: has been turnovers. A lot thereof paces had hardly any

928
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 2: time people are like a six turnovers on Thursday night

929
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: that you've got ball control, make your shots, control the ball,

930
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over you in the ball game.

931
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: Don't make adjustments. It's all about how you play the game, right.

932
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: I mean, what kind of an adjustment could they make?

933
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: I did little.

934
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: Things that you can you can do, but not big.

935
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: I mean, you are who you are at this point.

936
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you played almost one hundred games together, Like,

937
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: this is who your team is.

938
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: These are the plays that you run.

939
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: This is how you execute on offense and defense and

940
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: those things. But maybe can I put a spin on

941
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: an offensive play? Can I give you a different action

942
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: before we get to our main action?

943
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: Those things?

944
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: That's what we were doing football and football you run

945
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: the same plays, but maybe you line up in a

946
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: different formation and maybe you shift in motion before you

947
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: get to it to kind of distract the team from a.

948
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Here's what we're really about to do.

949
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: Those are the things, but ultimately it's convincing your player

950
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: that everything that we've done to this.

951
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: Point is good enough, so we don't need to change.

952
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: But it's on us to bring the things that are

953
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: always necessary. Look, it's about effort, it's about toughness, and

954
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: it's about execution. If you give great effort, if you

955
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: have enough mental and physical toughness, and then if you execute,

956
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: you win games. I mean, those things never change, and

957
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: so hey, play as hard as you can for as

958
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: long as you can. Let's lock in and focus on

959
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: the things that we're being asked to do, and let's

960
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: do those things really well. If we do that, we'll

961
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: be okay with the result. But more times than not,

962
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 3: the result is going to be the way that you

963
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: want it to be.

964
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: All right now, Now, let's move it to Bucket Brooks's wheelhouse,

965
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: which is the NFL. All right, and you have it

966
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: all every week in NFL dot Com, and I love it.

967
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: I love talking to you about it, and I love

968
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: bringing it when you have there every Friday, and you

969
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: talk about off season hype, blessing or a curse. Let's

970
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: talk about that for a second. You know, as a player,

971
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: you know you got to be really honest. You know

972
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: how good or bare your team is. If you were

973
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: a member of the New England Patriots year, you probably

974
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: knew in training camp the playoffs are a distant dream. Really,

975
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: you probably knew that you want to hope you get

976
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. But you look around and you see

977
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: the guys you're playing with and it just we don't

978
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: have it. You don't have the mojo. Is that I mean?

979
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: Is that happening? Because hosts all the time they sit

980
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: down behind the microphones. Well, I'm going to go through

981
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: the schedule and pick how many games you're gonna win.

982
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: That is the most asinine thing I've heard for years.

983
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: You can't do it. They're injury factor. You just don't

984
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: do it. I mean, no one thought that the Patriots

985
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: will come to Cincinnati and beat the Bengals on opening

986
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: Day last year. And they're a bad team. They may

987
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: have been the worst team in the league. But you know,

988
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: as a player how good your team really is. Don't

989
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: you go into the training camp.

990
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you have an idea, but you don't really know,

991
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: and you know you have blind faith that the team

992
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: is going to get better. Everyone walks into it optimistic that,

993
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: hey man, maybe we're a little better. You never know

994
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: until we started playing games. Three or four games you

995
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 3: have a greater sense of who you are. But in

996
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: training camp, everyone's positive going in that look, not necessarily

997
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: that this is our year to go win it. But

998
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: we gonna have a good season. We gonna find a

999
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: way to get it done and do those things. But

1000
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: the thing that I will say is you can't fool

1001
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: the players. The players can look around and they can

1002
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: look they can separate real from fakeness in terms of

1003
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: like fact from fiction. So you can sit there and say,

1004
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: hey man, we're a championship level time team. But then

1005
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: when they look around, it like we're not a championship

1006
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: caliber team. We're not really that great. Or sometimes you

1007
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: can try and hold them down. They can look around.

1008
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: We're like, no, no, no, we coach, we're pretty good, you know.

1009
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: So it's having this true conversation with the team daily

1010
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 3: about where we are, where we're trying to go, and

1011
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: how we're going.

1012
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: To get there.

1013
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: You have to be able to truly assess your team

1014
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: and be able to make real assessments and real assertions

1015
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: based on what you see.

1016
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: Oh help me out here. I'm a player right now

1017
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: in the National Football League. I'm going to camp. I'm

1018
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: a member of the Cleveland I look at my quarterback

1019
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 2: who's forty one years old in Joe Flacco. I don't

1020
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: feel good. I just don't feel that we're a playoff

1021
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: caliber team, especially in the division that we play in.

1022
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way on God's Green Earth I

1023
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: think that the Cleveland Browns make the playoffs this year.

1024
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 2: All right. As a player, I'm saying that.

1025
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1026
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: Because you can you can spend in a few different ways,

1027
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: like you can stand up in the defensive meeting.

1028
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: If you're Jim Schwartz and say, look.

1029
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett, we got Mason Graham and denzil Ward. We

1030
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: have some other really good players. Hey, we're good enough

1031
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: on our end where we can hold the opponent's score. Now,

1032
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: if they can't beat us, if they don't score, So

1033
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: maybe the defense coordinated the defensive staff, they put more

1034
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: pressure on the defense to step up, to keep the

1035
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: score down, to give to the offense a chance. There's

1036
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: a path to victory every week for every team in

1037
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: the league. But most teams aren't able to follow the path.

1038
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: Either they don't want to or they're unable to stick

1039
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: with the plan well enough to go down that path.

1040
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Well, maybe enough to follow it right, perhaps.

1041
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: Some man sometimes, But even if you're not good enough,

1042
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: you can get the game into the fourth quarter, you know,

1043
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 3: like by doing certain things and being really sound and

1044
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: solid in all of those areas. So, yeah, they may

1045
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: not be good enough, they may not be detailed enough

1046
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: to do it. But there's a path for every team

1047
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: in the league. Because what's different about the NFL than

1048
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: college for us or whatever, the playing field is level.

1049
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: The talent is pretty much evenly distributed around the league.

1050
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: Now you have to take that talent, develop it, and

1051
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: maximize it with your scheme and tactics. But the talent

1052
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: is fairly even across the board.

1053
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing from Bucket Brooks right now, and

1054
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: I agree that talent is somewhat even. The coaching makes

1055
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: a big difference, more so in the NFL than in college,

1056
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: because in college you can recruit the five star players.

1057
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: You got them on your squad, Well pay them right now,

1058
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: that's what they're doing. But in the NFL, if the

1059
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: talent is somewhat even, the the difference factor probably is

1060
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: the coaching. Obviously, you know the practices and the development

1061
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: of a player, but the coaching probably is the major difference,

1062
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: don't you think.

1063
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, coaching matters.

1064
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: Coaching has a significant impact on the outcome of games

1065
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: because you're trying to win in the margins and the

1066
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: coaching that has done between the lines really really matters.

1067
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: And so can you get your team we talked about effort, toughness, execution.

1068
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: Can you get your team to play hard? That is

1069
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: a skill. Think about what we're talking about. We're talking

1070
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: about the NBA and looking at Indiana and Oklahoma, city

1071
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: and how hard we're talking about the way that they play.

1072
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: Well, that's one thing.

1073
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: The toughness, being able to be resilient and bounced back

1074
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: good moments bad moments. The next time that we tee

1075
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: the ball up, are you going to show up and

1076
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: are you going to show up in the right frame

1077
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 3: of mind ready to win?

1078
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: That matters?

1079
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: And then the final thing, and maybe the most important

1080
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: part of it is execution. Can we do what we

1081
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: are trying to do over and over and over again,

1082
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: either by being detailed, being focused getting swayed by boredom because.

1083
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: We've run the same things over and over.

1084
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: Can we stay locked in and focus on the execution

1085
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 3: that matters, and that matters even more than most people

1086
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: would think when it comes to the NFL level.

1087
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: All right, at NFL dot com, you wrote this on

1088
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: Friday that offseason hype can be a blessing and a curse.

1089
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: Explain that could expand on that a little bit, and

1090
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: because you know, you even put down in writing that

1091
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: there was the Chicago Bears had all that off season

1092
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: hype a year ago, and maybe it turned into a

1093
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: curse to them because of what happened. They expected so

1094
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: much from Caleb Williams and it really just didn't happen.

1095
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is it because we don't have

1096
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: anything to do on our side but create content.

1097
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: So what do we do.

1098
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: We create lists and we talked about this is the

1099
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: best of whatever, and this team is the most improved

1100
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: and we're ready to see this team go.

1101
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: And what we.

1102
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: Do is we create an expectation for that fan base

1103
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: and for the league that oh they say, meaning the

1104
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: media tells us say, hey, this is supposed to be

1105
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 3: a really good team.

1106
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: Let's see what you got.

1107
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: Expectations create pressure because you're trying to live up or

1108
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: now to those expectations. That's that can be tough for

1109
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: young teams. That can be tough for any team to

1110
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: manage the expectations because there's.

1111
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: This internal.

1112
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 3: Pressure that you're battling in terms of trying to live

1113
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: up to what people are saying, good or bad.

1114
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: And it's funny you mentioned that because now here's another

1115
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: factor which I just just dawned on me. The coach

1116
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: reads that. I mean, you know that'll always say that

1117
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: on listen to the radio. That don't read the paper,

1118
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: they do, they read everything. They players as well. And

1119
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: if a guy is saying this or puts a list together.

1120
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: Would the coach confront them because you say, again the

1121
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 2: famous words of a player and a coach, you never

1122
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: played the game. How the hell could you say or

1123
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: write that? Right, I mean, and you're ruining You're ru

1124
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: in the prospects of my team this year because of

1125
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: what you've written or said. Right, you've seen that. I'm sure, right,

1126
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: I've seen that.

1127
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: I mean you you see coaches get upset about those

1128
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 3: things and all of that, But you had to remember

1129
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: the competitive spirit of anyone in the arena. They're looking

1130
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 3: for something to get them sparked up. You go out

1131
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: looking for things to create us against the world mentality

1132
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: that some believe they need to be super successful. So yeah,

1133
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: like the off season, the chatter build some of that,

1134
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 3: and sometimes it's about like a proven a critic wrong.

1135
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's about proving a critic right. But either way,

1136
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: you've allowed someone on the outside to set your standards,

1137
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 3: set your objectives.

1138
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: That's not always great.

1139
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So you set your standards and you set your objectives.

1140
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: Right now, because you had five teams that won the

1141
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 2: NFL this off season, how did you do that? And

1142
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: let's get into some of these teams that you picked,

1143
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: How did you manage to get these five teams? Why? Then?

1144
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: Well, then, because they're the ones that we were most

1145
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: buzzed about the most, the ones that we talked about

1146
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 3: the most over the course of the off season, excited

1147
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: about what could be or what should be. Whether it's

1148
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 3: talking about the teams that made free agent acquisitions or

1149
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: teams that added players in the draft or trade. These

1150
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 3: are the teams that we're excited based on what they

1151
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: have and what they put around them, even.

1152
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: With coaches, all of that kind of comes into the mix.

1153
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: Okay. One of those teams is the Chicago Bears, which

1154
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 2: basically fill in their face last year with Caleb Williams.

1155
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 2: Why should things be different this year? Are you said

1156
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: it might be a playoff team the Bears?

1157
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: This year? It might be a playoff team. That's the

1158
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: expectation with all the moves that they've done.

1159
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 3: I mean, one, you go and get Ben Johnson from

1160
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: a division rival. Ben Johnson has come in talking bowl

1161
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 3: like he is. Look, he doesn't believe in walking softly

1162
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 3: and carrying a big stick.

1163
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: He's walking loudly and.

1164
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: We'll see what kind of stick the Bears have when

1165
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 3: it comes to the way that he is challenging called

1166
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: out the Green Bay Packers. He's going to have to

1167
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: deal with his former team in the Detroit Lions, and

1168
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 3: then the Minnesota Vikings division is really really tough. They

1169
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: went out and they swapped out people on the offensive

1170
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: line to make sure that Caleb Williams is protected. They

1171
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 3: still enhance what they had on the perimeter, Coston Lovelin,

1172
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: Luther Burton, two more pass catches to go with Roma

1173
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: Doomsday and Cole Comet to be able to balance out

1174
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 3: this offense.

1175
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: They have a lot of firepower.

1176
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 3: They should be able to put up points at a

1177
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: ridiculous pace. If Ben Johnson is able to do what

1178
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: he did in Detroit with this squad look, some would

1179
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: say that they're more talented sometimes like in terms of

1180
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: what you'd look at in certain spots than the Lions.

1181
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 3: So there's an expectation that this team is going to

1182
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: be a hot, flying circus lighting up school boards. And

1183
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: in Chicago, we've never seen an offensive team really have

1184
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 3: this success, meaning one of their teams on offense to it.

1185
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen.

1186
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: You know what, This is a big deal. I mean,

1187
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: a guy like Ben Johnson. I don't know him from Adam.

1188
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: I mean I've heard of him, I've seen what he's done.

1189
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: Must be laying in bed at night looking at the

1190
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: ceiling saying that I make the right move because he

1191
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: had a going he had everything going from in Detroit

1192
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: and they were tough, they were good, and they're still

1193
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: on the cusp of maybe getting into that Super Bowl

1194
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: again and maybe winning at this time. Now he goes

1195
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: to Chicago and should they full floot in their face?

1196
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: And Caleb Williams is not the guy. Remember he's the

1197
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: guy that said Chicago's the place where quarterbacks die and

1198
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: he backed off that pretty good, right, So maybe Ben

1199
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 2: Johnson is saying to himself, did I make the right move?

1200
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: If this team comes out of the gate like zero

1201
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: to two, one and three, oh boy. I mean he's

1202
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: gonna have some doubts that maybe I'm not the coach

1203
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: I thought I was. Maybe I should have stayed in Detroit.

1204
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 3: That's the meal, right, I mean, I have some initial

1205
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: doubts if it doesn't go his way. But he'll be fine,

1206
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: Like he has to kind of grow into his role

1207
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 3: for being a play caller to be and a head

1208
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: coach and that's also a bit of a transition. But

1209
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: the talent is there, and you'd like to think that

1210
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: looking at number one over a pick in kay They Williams,

1211
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 3: you should be able to do what you want to do.

1212
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: Officeley be some growing paints, but the hype has been there.

1213
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: Everyone's excited because everyone has been hyping up Kayler Williams

1214
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: for over a year in terms of number one overall pick.

1215
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: Give him a chance. You got to do this, you

1216
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: got to do that.

1217
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: Okay, they did all of that, upgraded it line, the

1218
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: play calling, got some playmakers. All Right, it's time to

1219
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 3: put up a shut up if you Chicago and Kayler Williams.

1220
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: Okay, and another team that you say one in the

1221
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: UF season. Honestly, you got to feel for this guy.

1222
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: You gotta feel for Lamar Jackson. You talk about the

1223
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and you say, what do you mean the Ravens.

1224
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: I mean they've been so competitive the less so many years,

1225
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 2: but they haven't gotten it done. And we talked about

1226
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: guys that kind of wilt in the in the big game,

1227
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: in the spotlight postseason. I hate to say it, but

1228
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's right up there with the Clayton.

1229
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: Kershaw's Wow, I didn't what is he done?

1230
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 3: I mean, no, no, no, I'm not saying that you're wrong,

1231
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: but wow. I never linked those two together. But you

1232
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: just said in the earliest segment the previous hour that

1233
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: Clayton Kershaw is one of the biggest playoff underachievers.

1234
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 1: So many words. Now we're saying that about Lamar Jackson.

1235
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 3: But there is a now and never feel to this

1236
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens team. They have arguably the best roster in football.

1237
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: There's not a glaring weakness on this team.

1238
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: You don't have a glaring weakness. You have a two

1239
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: time MVP.

1240
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: I would say should have been a three time MVP

1241
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 3: based on how you played last year.

1242
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: But he didn't win it.

1243
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the expectation is we got a fast forward

1244
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: to February and they should be the team representing the

1245
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 3: AFC in Super Bowl fifty five.

1246
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: A lot of pressure on them. The hype is real.

1247
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: Yarry Alexander joining Malachos Starks and Marlon Humphrey and Nate

1248
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: Wiggins and Cal Humberton, I mean DeAndre Hopkins.

1249
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: On the perimeter.

1250
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: They have an all star squad. If we were playing

1251
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: the video game this would be the first team that

1252
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: you should grab. They have it all. Yeah, like we'll

1253
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: see because the hype, the hype is there, and the

1254
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 3: hype is only going to escalate because look, this team

1255
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 3: is expected to get that.

1256
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: We haven't seen them get there.

1257
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: And Lamar actually is the only multiple time MVP who

1258
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: we haven't seen play in a Super Bowl.

1259
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: You're calling the bullies of Baltimore. I love that. Okay,

1260
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: So we got two more teams, maybe two or three

1261
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: more teams you got. I just want to mention them

1262
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: in past. You got the Patriots. You say they may

1263
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: be or maybe a push for the playoffs. The Patriots

1264
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: in like thirty seconds, tell me why the Patriots may

1265
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: be going to the players this. This is amazing to me.

1266
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: But you know what, I'll leave my words if it happens.

1267
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: I will do that to you. I promise.

1268
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna eat your words because I have big hangy.

1269
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: Downs when it comes to I believe the Patriots are

1270
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: going to do it. First thing, let's start with the coaching.

1271
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel is approven winner. Mike Rabel knows how to

1272
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 3: get it done. We talk about a toughness a players

1273
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: coach who has the grizzled demeanor that you have to

1274
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 3: have to win.

1275
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: He knows it.

1276
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: So he has a program, a proven program. He has

1277
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: success in Tennessee. He now implements that program in New England,

1278
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: who has won a lot with a similar program too.

1279
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: You have Drake Man. The drake may effect. Whether the

1280
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 3: Drake may effect is if you have a franchise quarterback,

1281
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: you have a chance. He showed you in moments that

1282
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: he has that ability to play at a high level.

1283
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: Now you have to go out.

1284
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: And surround him with enough people to be successful. They

1285
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: bring out Josh Men Dames to give him an approving

1286
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: veteran play caller. They go and get a weapon to

1287
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: help him in Stefan Diggs. They get another one in

1288
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: Treyvon Henderson. In the backfield. They tweak and fix the

1289
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 3: offensive line and hope to getting them. But then on

1290
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 3: the other side of the ball, what they've done is

1291
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: they've given them a defense that can keep the score down.

1292
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: A lot of big time veteran players coming over, Milton Williams,

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Speaker 3: Harold Landry, Robert Splane, Carlton Davis. This is an old

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Speaker 3: school tough team. A lot of pelts on the wall.

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00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: In terms of the players. They have a lot of experience. Look,

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Speaker 3: this team is one that looks like they're ready. So

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Speaker 3: if all the dark horses that are out there, to me,

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Speaker 3: I'm hitching my wagon to the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: All right, the other two teams. So I agree with

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Speaker 2: the Washington command this because they got Jayden Daniels, so

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Speaker 2: that's done. But you got the Raiders there, and I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what. Maybe the deal with the Raiders right

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01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: now is coach Pete Carroll reunites now with Gino Smith

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Speaker 2: at quarterback. So there's a possibility there. Do you agree

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Speaker 2: with that?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it is. It's about the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: It's about Pete Carroll, seventy three years old walking around

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01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: you win gum as a Super Bowl champion, trying to

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Speaker 3: put some stability and some respect in the franchise that

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Speaker 3: is dear. He goes and brings his former quarterback over

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Speaker 3: multiple time Pro Bowl to Gino Smith to me, it's time.

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Speaker 3: Didn't get it ready, didn't get it rocking?

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Speaker 2: There we go, You're always rocking. He's my guy, He's

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. There you go, all right, Now, be sure

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Speaker 2: to check out the Fox Puts Radio YouTube channel. This

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Speaker 2: instant access to our Fox Spots Radio videos on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: All right, as mentioned these Bucket Brooks get him on

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Speaker 2: X at Bucket Brooks had Andy Furmann FSR eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine ninety

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Speaker 2: six sixty three sixty nine y Aona coming up in

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Speaker 2: this hour blame game with a special all star MVP

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Speaker 2: and our number three. But the problem isn't culture. It's

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Speaker 2: not culture, it's the man talking about it. And that's next.

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Speaker 2: It's a symbol of superiority that's right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He

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Speaker 2: is Bucky Brooks. I am Andy Furman, and we are

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Speaker 2: live for the Fox Sports Radio studios. And we crossed

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Speaker 2: the fifthy yard line right here on Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 2: an a in about ten twelve minutes from now. But

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Speaker 2: here's the deal. This is this is a pretty good

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Speaker 2: conversation piece. It really is. Because either this guy doesn't

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01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: get it or he's sticked between the ears or he

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01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: just wants to jabber on all counts, he is wrong

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: and he is Lebron James. He says ring culture is

1340
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Speaker 2: a problem. Are you freaking kidding me? Really, every one

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Speaker 2: in all sports from high school on up place for

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Speaker 2: the ring? Am I wrong on that? Tell me? Bucky Brooks?

1343
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: Am I wrong on that?

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Speaker 1: You're not wrong?

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, we are judged by the ability to

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01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 3: compete at the highest level, and professional sports the highest thing,

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01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 3: the highest honor, is to be called a champion. And

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Speaker 3: if you're not competing to be a champion, to remain

1349
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Speaker 3: a champion, then you have no place in the league.

1350
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Speaker 3: Like no one is respecting you if you just in

1351
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: here to just ring up a bunch of stats, but

1352
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Speaker 3: not to take your team to the next level. It's

1353
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: a team sport, so we want to see the best

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Speaker 3: teams win it. And if you're not about that, then

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Speaker 3: you're really not the right fit right now.

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Speaker 2: And I said, it's a simplest superiority of being the best,

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Speaker 2: or at least being part of the best. Because he's

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Speaker 2: saying that, you know, there's a lot of guys that

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Speaker 2: should be talked about, and they are but they've never

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Speaker 2: won a championship. Okay, and it's not the individual, it's

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Speaker 2: a team that you play for. Dan Marino, legendary quarterback

1362
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 2: for the Miami Dolphins, also sided. Maybe it's one of

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Speaker 2: the best players never to win a Super Bowl, the

1364
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Speaker 2: godfather of the forward pass, Dan marine don't ever won

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. They consider him great, but he doesn't

1366
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Speaker 2: have a ring. Barry Sanders all right, retired before his prime,

1367
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: probably right, a legendary guy with legacy of incredible rushing statistics.

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01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley never won a championship, Patrick Ewing, John Stockton,

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Speaker 2: Cal Malone, Chris Webber, all these guys. Jerry West won one.

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Speaker 2: Jerry West won one championship. So I don't know where

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Speaker 2: Lebron James is coming from. Maybe he's got too much

1372
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Speaker 2: free time on his hands. All right, let's take a listen,

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Speaker 2: Lebron the King, let me hear you. Go ahead, tell

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Speaker 2: me it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I've discussed so much in our sport,

1377
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Speaker 4: and why is the.

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Speaker 1: Alb all of everything? You sit here and you tell

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Speaker 1: me you know Allan Iverson and Charles Barkley and Steve Nash.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, wasn't unbelievable, Like, oh, they can't

1381
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 4: be talked about or discussed with these guys is because

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Speaker 4: this guy won one ring or won two rings or

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Speaker 4: one like it's just it's just weird to me. It's

1384
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Speaker 4: like Sam Paige Manning can't be in the same room

1385
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Speaker 4: with Brady or Mahomes because he only has one ring.

1386
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Speaker 4: They don't ever discuss that any sports, right or telling

1387
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 4: me that Dann Marino is not the greatest slinger of

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Speaker 4: all time, or he can't be in a room with

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Speaker 4: those guys because he didn't win a championship. They don't

1390
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Speaker 4: discuss those things.

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Speaker 2: No one said that, Lebron. No one said that. First

1392
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 2: of all, you're a hypocrite to some e stepics. You

1393
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: were a ring jumper yourself. You jump teams to get

1394
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: a ring. I don't get it. Where is this coming from?

1395
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Speaker 2: What kind of a warped mind would you have that?

1396
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: Let me just say this, nobody cares in sports. Who

1397
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Speaker 2: finishes second in the Kentucky Derby. No one cares tonight

1398
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: if in fact Indiana wins and Oklahoma City loses, No

1399
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Speaker 2: one's going to talk about Oklahoma City. It's talk about champions.

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Speaker 2: We talk about champions and if you're a champion, you

1401
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: deserve a ring. You get a ring doesn't mean you're great.

1402
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: It means you're part of greatness. That's what it is.

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01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: You know, Caruso might get a ring today if Oklahoma

1405
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: City wins. He's not great. Good basketball player on a

1406
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Speaker 2: team that I have to win a championship. That's what

1407
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: it's all about. Right, you played the game, Buck, Do

1408
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: you have any rings?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I have a technical ring in terms of

1410
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 3: like super Bowl ninety six with the Packers, but I

1411
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 3: don't really feel like a part of that.

1412
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, like I've.

1413
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 3: Won titles really like yeah, I mean, so it's different.

1414
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, but like here's my thing, and here's my

1415
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 3: frustration in terms of like what Lebron said. Lebron is

1416
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: right because we have added ring culture into it. Right,

1417
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 3: it's become a talking point when it comes to how

1418
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 3: we discuss where players should rank from a media standpoint. However,

1419
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: he also has kind of contributed to that because he

1420
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: heard the outside noise and he made moves to make

1421
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: sure that he silenced the outside noise. So, for instance,

1422
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 3: going from Cleveland to Miami to learn how to win

1423
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 3: and ring with the Teat and then took that back

1424
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 3: and win it with Cleveland and anyone again with the Lakers.

1425
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: So he's won four titles.

1426
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Speaker 3: So he did that, but some of the moves that

1427
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 3: he made was to make sure that he could silence

1428
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: all the people there. Now if he's talking about the

1429
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: competition between him and Jordan and those things, which is

1430
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: really ridiculous argument in terms of like trying to compare

1431
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: players from different errors, that's one thing, but we're in

1432
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 3: this thing because man, you're judged on two things. Rings

1433
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: and respect, Right, how many rings do you have? And

1434
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 3: do we respect you as a player? That's in everything.

1435
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 3: That's the only thing you really really played for. People

1436
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 3: talk about the money whatever, But if you Kate Terry

1437
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 3: does two things, the money follows you.

1438
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Speaker 1: If you win rings and.

1439
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 3: You're respected as a player, ultimately you make money. So

1440
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 3: Lebron understands that. And when he talks about Dan Marino

1441
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 3: and Peyton Manning and those things like that, that's great,

1442
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 3: but those are those are legacy conversations down the line.

1443
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 3: But any immediacy, it's about winning it. Because if you

1444
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 3: don't win it, what are we talking about? That's what

1445
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 3: we played. We play to win. That's what you're playing for.

1446
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: Here is the deal, I mean, is the key. Here's

1447
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: the answer to the entire question. Jerry West. He went

1448
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: to nine NBA finals, he won one, got a ring,

1449
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: got one ring. He's the face of the league. He's

1450
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: the logo. Jerry West is the logo. So you're telling

1451
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: me that because he's only got one ring, you know,

1452
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: he's not great. He's not a great player. You know,

1453
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: he just had he did play with some great players

1454
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: with him. Elchiin Bayley was a teammate. Okay, so he

1455
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: had some great players with him. He just did not

1456
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: match up or his team did not match up to

1457
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: those great Boston Celtic teams in the early sixties. Couldn't

1458
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: get it done. I mean, so, I don't understand because

1459
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: Lebron won what for a fourth time NBA champ, does

1460
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: that mean he's not great? Look, I don't like measuring

1461
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 2: player against player. It's always a Lebron and MJ which

1462
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: is ridiculous because Lebron is so much more physical than him.

1463
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 2: He's a better rebound than him. They're just two different

1464
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: types of ball players. And if you want to ask me,

1465
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: the most dominant player to ever play in the National

1466
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: Basketball Association. I gotta tell you was World Chamberlain and

1467
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: how many championships did he win? So it doesn't make

1468
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: any sense what he's going with this. And why is

1469
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: rings more important in the NBA than in Major League

1470
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 2: Baseball or in football. I don't get that either.

1471
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so he's the thing. I think it's I

1472
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: think it's important in everything. I think people talk about,

1473
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 3: like being a champion and all those things. There's a

1474
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 3: special place that we hold champions. People talk about Derek Jeter,

1475
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 3: and you can argue whether Derek Jeter was like an

1476
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 3: all timer in terms of a player, but one thing

1477
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 3: that we all talk about is like he's one of

1478
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: the greatest winners that we've ever been around, we've ever seen.

1479
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, he had three thousand hits and all that

1480
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: other stuff. But like, I.

1481
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: Believe people view Derek Jeter and respect him more for

1482
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 3: his ability to do what's necessary for the Yankees to

1483
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 3: win as the captain. There's something about being able to

1484
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 3: do that even more than this teammate we went with

1485
01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 3: Alas Rodriguez. You know, they're different levels, Like the winning

1486
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 3: the rings separate the guys at the highest level. There's

1487
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 3: a reason why we talked about Tom Brady, and then

1488
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 3: before that we talked about Joe Montana.

1489
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: There's something about winning.

1490
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 3: And I will say this because I do believe maybe

1491
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 3: some of Lebron's frustration comes from the only argument that

1492
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: people say, like, well, Jordan went six for six, right,

1493
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 3: Lebron could never go whatever, Like he's lost.

1494
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: In finals, He's never six or six.

1495
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 3: But the funny thing in football, tom Brady didn't win everyone.

1496
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 3: Tom Brady has seven rings, but we don't talk about

1497
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 3: like tom Brady was seven for seven, Joe Montanna was

1498
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 3: four for four, tom Brady wasn't, but we called tom

1499
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 3: Brady the goat. So it's this nuance to the conversation

1500
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Speaker 3: that must be selected. But a lot of it is emotional,

1501
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 3: Like people are emotionally tied to Michael Jordan, they emotionally

1502
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 3: tied to Kobe and Lebron, And so those debates are

1503
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 3: those like don Quixote, like trying to fend off the windmills.

1504
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 3: You know, you just can't. You can't do it. But

1505
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 3: that's what he's talking about. But look, man, his record

1506
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 3: should speak for himself. If he's talking about himself in

1507
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: this argument, scoring titles and all that. I mean, well,

1508
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 3: like he has an all time scorer, all this, all

1509
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 3: that he's won rings, like will he ever scaled him

1510
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 3: out and be considered to go like Michael Jordan? Probably

1511
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 3: not because people cling dearly to the Michael Jordan thing.

1512
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 3: But he certainly earns his face in that conversation, which

1513
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 3: is an accomplishment in his own.

1514
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 2: I will say this. You know you mentioned Derek Geta,

1515
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 2: he mentioned all these other You got to mention the guy.

1516
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: The biggest winner of all time to me has to

1517
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 2: be Bill Russell. Bill Russell with the Bust and Celtics,

1518
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: and look, is he the greatest player of all time?

1519
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 2: He's up there. I mean, and I hate to use

1520
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: the term Mount Rushmore, but I don't think he'd be

1521
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: on Mount Rushmore. I mean, may he rest in peace,

1522
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 2: but a tremendous player. He was a great coach. You know,

1523
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: he was the first African American coach there in the NBA.

1524
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. And he wanted as a coach,

1525
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 2: but the point is that he had great teammates with him.

1526
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: So the deal is, one person doesn't win a ring,

1527
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: a team wins a ring. I'll give you an example,

1528
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: I think Oscar Robinson. I love the Big oh. I

1529
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: can send him a friend. He won once with Kareem

1530
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. Doesn't mean he's not a great player. He's

1531
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: not up there. And really, Lebron, you never mentioned his name.

1532
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 2: To talk more about Charles Barkley, let's talk about history.

1533
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: You want to talk about this topic, you better do

1534
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: a little bit of homework. I'm talking about people that

1535
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: talk sports all the time. There are great players way

1536
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: back in the day, they really were, and Will Chamberlain's

1537
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 2: one of them. And the big Ol' Oscar Robertson was

1538
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: one as well, and Big O only won one championship.

1539
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, we can talk about a few

1540
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 3: different things, like you want to be special because you

1541
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 3: want to win the championship. You want to compete at

1542
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 3: the highest level. You want to be a part of that.

1543
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 3: Because there's one thing about that, like they have to

1544
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 3: call you a champion forever, you're forever known as a champion.

1545
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 3: But if you're not dead and you are a great player,

1546
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 3: like you respected, there's something different though about being a champion.

1547
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 3: That's why we give out gold medals, you know, that's

1548
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: what we talk about rings and stuff.

1549
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: To designate those things.

1550
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 2: That's what we keep score. Think about it. I mean,

1551
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,560
Speaker 2: otherwise you wouldn't keep scoring a game to have a

1552
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 2: winner and a loser. That's what it's all about.

1553
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. Being a champion is different.

1554
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: So he knows that. Man, he's playing along like it's

1555
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 3: some of the things. I'm a Lebron fan, but there's

1556
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 3: some stuff that sometimes I'm like, it's a little cringey,

1557
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: Like come on, bro, like what are we doing? Like,

1558
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 3: come on, man, Like you know what it's about. It's

1559
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 3: about winning. And if you look, if you're not winning,

1560
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 3: then what we're doing this first place in no place.

1561
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: So that's what we have to get to.

1562
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 2: That's what we got. I gotta echo your feeling here

1563
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: because I do. I enjoy Lebron. I think he's been

1564
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: great for the NBA.

1565
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 3: Thing.

1566
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 2: Is a hell of a player. It's a great play

1567
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 2: He really was great player in high school all the

1568
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: way through. I mean the amount he's a superman in

1569
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 2: the fact that they're playing at the age of forty

1570
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: one and still putting up twenty plus points a game.

1571
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 2: He's tremendous. But I'm not saying he's wrong here. But

1572
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: I you just kind of tone it down a little bit.

1573
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy because we do talk about great

1574
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: players who haven't won. Ted Williams, to me, may be

1575
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: the greatest hitter of all time in baseball. Not as

1576
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: far as number of hits because Pete Rose has that,

1577
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 2: but as far as a pure hitter, he may very

1578
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 2: well be the greatest hitter ever to play the game

1579
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: of baseball. Guess what one World Series and he lost?

1580
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 5: Right?

1581
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: Bad teams, those bad Red Sox teams, Ted Williams. I mean,

1582
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: look at these guys. I mean, come on, there are

1583
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: other guys. I mean, I think the Ty Cobb played

1584
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: one in three World Series with the Detroit Tigers way back,

1585
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 2: what in nineteen oh seven and something I don't remember,

1586
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: but he lost all three, didn't win any I mean,

1587
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: you talk about the people talk about Ty Cobb all

1588
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 2: the time. I don't get it. I mean, where is

1589
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: this coming from unless a little bit of jealousy and

1590
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 2: envy because he wants more rings, right, think about it?

1591
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what it comes down to.

1592
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 3: It comes down to the jealousy and envy and all

1593
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 3: of that other stuff, which is terrible, awful.

1594
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: It's always awful.

1595
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. Jealousy's terrible thing. All right, I'll

1596
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: listener to you, though, Bucky Brooks, I am, I got

1597
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 2: to admit it. I am a little jealous. I mean,

1598
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have been your teammate. But

1599
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: I just you know, I couldn't even put on the equipment.

1600
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even know how to put on football equipment.

1601
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: Think about that. That's how stupid I am, right. I mean,

1602
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: if I was next to you at the lock as

1603
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 2: your bay buck, could you help me out with the

1604
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: shoulder pairs?

1605
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 5: Here?

1606
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 2: Which way do they go? And I never was shoulder

1607
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: pains in my life. I mean you look at me,

1608
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: you probably think what a goof? What a goof? This

1609
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 2: guy is? Really? I mean, but I could run though,

1610
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: you know, back in the day, I could run. Right

1611
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: now it's a little more difficult, but we move on.

1612
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,839
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Many Firmer. Weel Fox Sports Sunday,

1613
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: not Fox Sports Radio. Now you have two choices, yay

1614
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: or nay. And you know what the next yea nay

1615
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 2: color Right up. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firmer wheel

1616
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. We're live from

1617
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios, and of course maybe eleven

1618
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: minutes before the top of the hour. But and there's

1619
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: time for a and A. Let's do it. Okay, let's

1620
01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: figure rock those brains, gentlemen, these stories needed ass I

1621
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 2: think we need a ruling on this. Yes it is.

1622
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: Are you ready, Patty? You want to give a y

1623
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: A RNA out there?

1624
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: Oh?

1625
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 5: I do have a yay RNA for us guys. So

1626
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 5: earlier this week, Pete Carroll, you know he's now coaches

1627
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 5: for the Oakland or Oakland the Las Vegas Raiders. I'm

1628
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 5: still thinking of the past here, everybody, Thank you, thank

1629
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 5: you mighty so Pete Carroll actually went on to say

1630
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 5: that with the whole recent voting of certain rulings, he

1631
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 5: opposed receding in the playoffs. He went on Marshall Lynch

1632
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 5: is actually a podcast, uh, to say that I was

1633
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 5: against voting for the other rule. I vote for division winners.

1634
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 5: And he credits it thanks to his big win in

1635
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 5: Seattle where is the Beast Quake where they were a

1636
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 5: wild a random little Cinderella wildcard and beat the New

1637
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 5: Orleans Saints. He credits to that U yay or nay

1638
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,799
Speaker 5: on his side on this, Andy Furman, I'm with Pete Carroll.

1639
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 2: Really, I got to believe that means something. To win

1640
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 2: a division, you got to get some credit for that.

1641
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: I like Pete Carroll, he's my guy. I'm with him

1642
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 2: on this.

1643
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm with him. It has to be something special.

1644
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 3: Why have divisions if you're not going to reward the

1645
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 3: division winner. The division winner should be able to get

1646
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 3: a home game. If you're a walk our team, tough luck,

1647
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 3: get on the road and be able to do it.

1648
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 3: Like that's just what it is.

1649
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 5: Yes, all right, sweet sweet, Well we're gonna go from

1650
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 5: football to foot Bowl, and by football I mean soccer everybody. So,

1651
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 5: Christiano Ronaldo has black nail polish on his toenails. It

1652
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 5: is a trend to popularize by MMA fighters. They do

1653
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 5: it to apparently harden their toenails and prevent them from

1654
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 5: from crackling or splitting under any duress and all that

1655
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 5: stuff while they play. What do you guys think, yay

1656
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 5: or nail on this? Bucky Brooks, I'm gonna gave on it.

1657
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 3: Like nail colors are an expression, and so if Christian

1658
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 3: Renalden wants to put black Neil Paul shown his toes cool.

1659
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 3: We've seen a trand amongst young people with Jared McLain

1660
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 3: and all these basketball players and football players.

1661
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: Will begin to paint their nails.

1662
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: They should be free to express themselves how they see fit.

1663
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 3: I don't have problems, you know.

1664
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you guys, because I never

1665
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: ever lie. You know, I may be foolish in that regard,

1666
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: but I have to say yay, and I'll tell you why.

1667
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 2: Of course, I do the same thing, all right, And

1668
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 2: I may have to now now that I went public

1669
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: with this, I may have to post it and I

1670
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: may do it on X.

1671
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: But don't tag me. Don't tag me. I don't want

1672
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 1: to see your tone. Don't don't tag you. I don't wow.

1673
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm good.

1674
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 5: And speaking of someone who probably doesn't want to be

1675
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 5: tagged right now. Schador Sanders was cited for speeding twice

1676
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 5: this month, our media targeting him.

1677
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeay, your nay, Andy Furman.

1678
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: Well, I would have to say yay in a sense, okay, yay. Well,

1679
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: like a little astro going to tell you why he

1680
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: was doing over one hundred miles an hour. Okay, So

1681
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: obviously you know a CoP's could be sitting in this country.

1682
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: Wait what just went by? But you know, you know,

1683
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: if you're in the Cleveland area, you know who he is.

1684
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 2: You know, if I'm a cop, I'm giving him a break, Like, hey, man,

1685
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: you know, should do a slow down, a little bit

1686
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: slow down? Really, I mean, you don't want to get

1687
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: the exposure of pr that you're getting like right now.

1688
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: So I think there's so much tent I think he is.

1689
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: Oh look man, like, I mean, the rules are the rules,

1690
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 3: and so if you if you're going forty miles over

1691
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 3: the speed limit, that's a problem. I won't link like

1692
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 3: him speeding with oh my god, this is why they

1693
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 3: shouldn't have drafted him. But this is why you feel.

1694
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 3: But look, they're trying to really protect himself. We've seen

1695
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 3: hainous accidents or whatever. I still think about Henry Rosse,

1696
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: even though shoulder wasn't drinking. But look, you just want

1697
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: all young people, all drivers, to be safe. So he

1698
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 3: can't be forty miles over the speed limit.

1699
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: So it is what it is, all right, it is

1700
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: what it is.

1701
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 5: Well, it kind of is for what it is over

1702
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 5: here for this guy. So former NFL player turn broadcaster

1703
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 5: Richard Sherman was cited for a second d UI. Does

1704
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 5: he or should he lose his broadcasting job?

1705
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: Yay or nay?

1706
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, M. This is a tough one, man.

1707
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 3: You don't want to see anyone drink and drive like.

1708
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 3: It's a serious and one of the most egregious offenses

1709
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 3: you can have. Now, ultimately it's on the companies that

1710
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: work with him to make that determination. But look, it's

1711
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 3: not a great look, you know what I'm saying, Like

1712
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 3: for anybody to be driving job, we have so many

1713
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 3: things available to us to avoid that, and.

1714
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I can't say that I'm a big fan

1715
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: of it.

1716
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 3: I don't want anybody to lose their job, but look,

1717
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 3: sometimes the consequences that come.

1718
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 2: With it, you know. I hate to say yay. I

1719
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: don't want anybody to lose their job either, because I

1720
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 2: know it's just bad. Okay, but this is a bad look.

1721
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: And I tell you what, My buddy Tom Brenneman lost

1722
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: his job as saying something that was kind of off color, offcanic.

1723
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 2: He was a guy did Fox games on football, did

1724
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 2: CINCINNTI Reds games on. He just lost it all. He's

1725
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: back now doing stuff, which is great. But so I

1726
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 2: think Richard Sherman should be punished. I really do, all right,

1727
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: last one real quick.

1728
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,879
Speaker 5: So Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders say they're getting a serious increase

1729
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,919
Speaker 5: in pay, a four hundred percent boost.

1730
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: Yay or nay? You better hold on. Jore lifted a break.

1731
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 2: Let's hold on this. Let's discuss that later continued more

1732
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 2: stay with us. All right, it's time to get off

1733
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 2: the fence. It really is. That's right around the corner.

1734
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Many Firm and we are Fox

1735
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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio, and we're live from

1736
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1737
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: I am excited because we've got a Hall of Famer

1738
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 2: coming up in about twenty minutes. Mike North, my former

1739
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 2: partner on the morning show we are on Fox Sports Radio.

1740
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 2: Mike North is chomping at the bit. So we got

1741
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 2: to like just take it easy because he could be

1742
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 2: a little out of control, you know, Mike North. I mean,

1743
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,720
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1759
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 2: down to business right now. I want I want to

1760
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 2: pick from you with the score. All right, A little

1761
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: wager here, maybe just a fun way. I don't know.

1762
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: Pati is thunder tonight, who wins and why? And a

1763
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: possible score?

1764
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it.

1765
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

1766
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: Well, okay, Joe, I know if you had any more

1767
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,040
Speaker 1: credit to you before.

1768
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: Well maybe the MVP two throw the MVP in two.

1769
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so we'll go with OKAC winning. It will be

1770
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 3: a lower scering game. So let's go one oh three

1771
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 3: ninety eight SGA wins MVP as OKAC wins their first title.

1772
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: Patty, you could you write this down so we have

1773
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: it for next week? Yeah, we do that so I

1774
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 2: could laugh at Bucket Brooks after I'm uncorrect on my pick.

1775
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,959
Speaker 5: Can we do that writing it down currently?

1776
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I'm picking the Indiana Pacers. They're

1777
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 2: gonna win. They're gonna win one O six to ninety seven.

1778
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, and this is crazy, but I got TJ.

1779
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: McConnell's the MVP. All right, how's that We leave it

1780
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: at that? All right?

1781
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: There we go.

1782
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 2: Now now for the big question of the day, which

1783
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 2: we didn't have time to do. In yay n A,

1784
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,879
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders say they're getting a serious increase

1785
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 2: in pay, a four hundred boost and pay. This is unbelievable.

1786
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 2: They'll last deal was four hundred bucks a game, the

1787
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: latest race. And it's unbelieved four times that the latest

1788
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: rays is four times that. Let's talk about it. It's

1789
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: just out of control. I mean, well, hear about the

1790
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. They won't pay Dak Prescott. I mean really,

1791
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: I mean now they're paying the cheerleaders. I know, it's

1792
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: a different, different salary range. But come on, it's embarrassing.

1793
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: What do you think about that four hundred bucks going up?

1794
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: Look? I like the fact that it's going up.

1795
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you haven't watched America's Sweethearts and you

1796
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 3: haven't seen the grind that the Cowboys cheerleaders go through,

1797
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 3: because if you had, you have a great appreciation for

1798
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 3: the contributions to the team into the franchise.

1799
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: So it's long overdue the work that they've done.

1800
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 3: Charlotte Jones deserves kudos for up into pay for the ladies.

1801
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the list I heard maybe on way off base. Now,

1802
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: this is years ago that the Cincinnati Bengals were making

1803
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 2: like something like twenty five bucks a game, And I remember.

1804
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: I come on, Andy, what were we doing twenty five

1805
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: bucks a game?

1806
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: I do I don't think they make much. I really don't.

1807
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: And more than that, I remember the last time when

1808
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: the Bengals were playing in the Super Bowl in Miami.

1809
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: The Bengals didn't take them down. There are going their

1810
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: own and they weren't gonna pay. It was a big

1811
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: to do. It was a big mess. When the Bengals

1812
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 2: went to that Miami super Bowl. It was it was nuts.

1813
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 2: It really was. I mean, there's always a monetary problem

1814
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: with the Bengals. I hate to say, Trey Hendrickson, Joe Burrow,

1815
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. I mean, come on, Tie Higgins. It's just

1816
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 2: it's bad. I mean, And how would that affect a

1817
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: player who's in college getting drafted and here's his name

1818
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 2: called by the Bengals and he's home. That's the team

1819
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 2: that doesn't pay, right, I mean, really, it just you

1820
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: don't want to go there. I mean, Caleb Williams says

1821
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 2: the Bears are the team where quarterbacks die. He may

1822
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 2: be better of going there and going to Cincinnati, the

1823
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: team that doesn't pay.

1824
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: They don't they don't pay.

1825
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it's look, it's crazy, like how we're in

1826
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 3: the business of being in the business of not paying, Like,

1827
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 3: why be in the business if you don't want to

1828
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 3: pay people for the services you gotta pay him?

1829
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense.

1830
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 2: I don't care. And more than that, now you played

1831
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 2: the game, you were in the league. What was the

1832
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: word around the league? Was there talk around the league like,

1833
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 2: you know, you know what they're playing Cincinnati is like,

1834
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: you know, they don't pay any money? Was it talk

1835
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 2: like that in the locker room?

1836
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was talking about that, but

1837
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 3: it went beyond that. They just talked about how cheap

1838
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 3: the organization was. At one point, so andy to take

1839
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 3: you back, like every player, there's equipment room, and then

1840
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,679
Speaker 3: the equipment room you go get your shorts, your socks,

1841
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 3: your T shirts, so that if you missed a shirt, Hey, Bob,

1842
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 3: I need like can I get a T shirt?

1843
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 4: This?

1844
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 3: And that, they're like, okay, they throw you one. In Cincinnati,

1845
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 3: they didn't have that. They had a bin, and I'm

1846
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: sure you've heard the stories about the infamous bins where

1847
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 3: they would just have the bens in the middle of

1848
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 3: the locker room where if you needed a shirt you

1849
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 3: would just go dig your hand in the bin and

1850
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 3: take out a shirt and then they were clean. But

1851
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 3: they certainly didn't operate like other people operated. At one

1852
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 3: point they told me that guys had to pay for

1853
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 3: their own gatorades at the facility.

1854
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 1: Like you had the vendominis and doing those things.

1855
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 3: So they have always operated on a very tight budget

1856
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 3: when it comes to that, not a lot of excesses

1857
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 3: that they bestow upon their players.

1858
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 2: I remember my guy Marvin Lewis was coaching the Bengals

1859
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 2: he was bitching because they wouldn't give him towels. He

1860
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't give the guys towels in the locker room. It's crazy.

1861
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 3: I mean, like, and I noticed, and I know people

1862
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 3: kind of beat Marvin up. But the job that he

1863
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 3: did there to win with fright of that stuff he

1864
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 3: never gets. He never gets, never gets enough credit for

1865
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 3: what he was able to do leading that team out

1866
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 3: of the dul Drums. They didn't win a playoff game

1867
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 3: on his.

1868
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 1: Watch five years with him.

1869
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, it's unbelievable that they were able to get

1870
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 3: so far given people.

1871
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 2: Talk about the term culture, which I don't like to

1872
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: throw out a lot. He turned the culture around for

1873
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 2: that team, he really did. You know, they were looked

1874
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 2: as laughable losers until he got there. He turned it around,

1875
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 2: and it was a difficult turnaround, not so much with players,

1876
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: but for management. I mean, they had the smallest scouting

1877
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: staff in the league. Everything was antiquated, Everything was like

1878
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty with that team, and Marvin kind of pushed

1879
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 2: him and turned it around. He did, He did turn

1880
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: it around somewhat. They're kind of going back a little

1881
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 2: bit right now, but we'll see what happens. And I feel,

1882
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: you know, I feel for Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow,

1883
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: I really do. I mean, you know, Joe Borrow was

1884
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 2: asked about the Troy Henderson thing and he says, well,

1885
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 2: at least this year we only have one problem. Last

1886
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: year it was two, you know, with T Higgins and

1887
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase. I mean, you got to be you know,

1888
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: really gotta believe the clock is ticket for Joe. I mean,

1889
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: his year number six, I mean, he's not getting any younger.

1890
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 2: Got to get into the Super Bowl and win one.

1891
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, it sounded the first year certainly on him.

1892
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 3: And now that they've paid so much money to their

1893
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 3: perimeter playmakers and Jamar chas T Higgins with Joe Burrow,

1894
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 3: yet I mean, they have to get it down with

1895
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 3: the offensively team.

1896
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: All right, now, let's talk the ball because I could

1897
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 2: see that you're getting all pumped out now talking about football.

1898
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 2: Let's call this if I may, and I'm not putting

1899
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 2: you on the spot because you're a wealth of knowledge,

1900
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 2: you really are. I call this the Bucky quiz. And

1901
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 2: what is it? There are eleven teams in the National

1902
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:06,520
Speaker 2: Football League have new defensive coordinators, which is you are Baileywick.

1903
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: You know defense, you're the guy. This is right up

1904
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 2: your rally. I'm going to throw the team at you

1905
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about the biggest problem that each defensive

1906
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 2: coordinator faces. Are you ready for this? Because I know

1907
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: you know this. I know you do, and maybe it

1908
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 2: will be so good that you may even write about

1909
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 2: it one day, who knows. Okay, I'm going with the

1910
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons first, jeff Oldbrook Okay, and the Falcons defense

1911
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 2: struggled last year big time, and they do have any

1912
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: game changing plays. Really. They rank thirty first with only

1913
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 2: thirty one sacks. They rank seventeenth with twelve interceptions. What

1914
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 2: is this new dcord that I have to do? Will

1915
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 2: he get it solved?

1916
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing they gotta do is they have

1917
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 3: to have a consistent pass rush. The biggest issue that

1918
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 3: has played the Falcons. They have not had a consistent

1919
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 3: pass rusher since John Abraham, I mean years and years

1920
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: and years without a dominant rusher on the edges. And

1921
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 3: so until they're able to generate a pass rush, you

1922
01:28:58,920 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 3: won't be able to.

1923
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: Generate turnovers or any of those things.

1924
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 3: It all relates the more pressure, the more turnovers. So

1925
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 3: they have to up the turnover, up the pressure so

1926
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 3: they can have more turnovers.

1927
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 2: All right, I agree with you there, Okay, but I

1928
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 2: still don't think they're gonna be any good. Okay, we

1929
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 2: move along. This is your team that you said won

1930
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: the off season, all right, that's the Chicago Bears. Dennis Allen. Okay,

1931
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 2: he was hired after ten years in New Orleans, the

1932
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: last three years he was a coach. And this guy

1933
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: they claim I'm reading about Dennis Allen, they say has

1934
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: various different fronts, various different blitz packages and coverages. Okay,

1935
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: how quick will these players now on the Bears? And

1936
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: you talk of the great players that they obtained and drafted,

1937
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna be several games. I would think for them

1938
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 2: they got comfortable in this new system that seems to

1939
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: be somewhat complex.

1940
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it may take them a wide to get comfortable

1941
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 3: in this system because they come from a system that

1942
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 3: was pretty simple, simon, very simplistic. Put an effort, put

1943
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 3: a lot of their attention on the effort. How hard

1944
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 3: you played in those scenes with Dennis Allen. It's a

1945
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 3: little more trick, a little more gadgetreet. So everyone's gonna

1946
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 3: to be on the same page. It may take the minute.

1947
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 3: Their offense is going to have to do a lot

1948
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 3: of the heavy lifting early, so their defense can kind

1949
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 3: of come through. We'll see how it works out. Look,

1950
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 3: I talked about the hype machine. The hype machine is

1951
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 3: off the charts for the Bears, so he better figure

1952
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 3: it out quickly.

1953
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals, and they

1954
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 2: got a new decordinator and Al Golden. The Bengals, if

1955
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 2: you remember, and then kind of you gotta remember, kind

1956
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 2: of way back in the day, no, no, several years ago,

1957
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 2: they had a top ten defense and that had a

1958
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 2: great offense, which they still have a fairly good offense.

1959
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 2: And now we'll see how good it is if Jewo

1960
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,839
Speaker 2: Borough states healthy. But the last several years the defense

1961
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 2: really went down down the tubes, and they fired the

1962
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 2: defensive coordinated Luana Rumo, and they hired Al Golden. All right,

1963
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 2: Golden was he did work with the Bengals at one

1964
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,520
Speaker 2: point in time, but he was noted Dames defensive coordinator

1965
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 2: and the best player on that defense. Trey Hendrickson remained

1966
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 2: really at odds with the team over the lack of

1967
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 2: a contract extension. He led the league with seventeen and

1968
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 2: a half sacks last year. So Willie will al Gordon

1969
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: to al Golden have to change the defense without a

1970
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 2: pass rusher and Trey Hendrickson. How does he do that?

1971
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 2: How does he map out a defense? Now? Does he

1972
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 2: have one with Trey Hendrickson and one without him?

1973
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: No? I mean I think you have the same thing.

1974
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they're.

1975
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 3: Confident that Trey Henderson will eventually make his way back

1976
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 3: to the team and the program. This is a tough

1977
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 3: one for El Golden because he has been given a

1978
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 3: lot to work with and first round pick Shamar Stewart

1979
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 3: is not in camp, has not been around. I mean

1980
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 3: he's been around, but he hasn't been able to get

1981
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 3: on the.

1982
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: Field and work out.

1983
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 3: How can the first round pick get better without real reps?

1984
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 3: That's a problem. Trey Hendrickson, you have the contract STAFU,

1985
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,759
Speaker 3: your best defensive player, guy who has the third most

1986
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 3: sacks over the past four years, and you can't get

1987
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 3: him done. It just look it's just messy. But they

1988
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 3: can overcome it.

1989
01:31:58,840 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: Man.

1990
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 3: It's gonna take a lot to keep everyone on the

1991
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 3: same page being able to get this done.

1992
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 2: Okay, this guy, to me and I don't know why.

1993
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 2: I just think he's a clown. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm

1994
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 2: talking about Matt Eberfluss from the former coach of the Bears.

1995
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 2: Now he's the defensive coordinator of the Cowboys. Let's talk

1996
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: about the Cowboys defense for a second. They have had

1997
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 2: five defensive coordinators the last ten years. You've always talked

1998
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 2: about continuity, you gotta stay the path. Really, the lack

1999
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 2: of continuity has made it difficult. I would have to

2000
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 2: think for players on the defensive side of the football

2001
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 2: to reach their full potential. Cadiba flush get this done.

2002
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 2: And again, am I wrong by calling him a clown

2003
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 2: because I thought he acted like a clown in Chicago.

2004
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 3: I mean, he may have shown some clown nish things,

2005
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 3: but he's a good coach and he's a really good

2006
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. They can fix this because the style that

2007
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 3: he wants to play is very similar to the style

2008
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 3: that he used to play under Rod Mary Nelly. They

2009
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 3: want to see ball get balled. They canna be more

2010
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 3: of his own based team. They can run, react and

2011
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 3: get it after it. They can get this done. The

2012
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,640
Speaker 3: biggest question that I have for him is how is

2013
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,919
Speaker 3: he going to deploy Michael Parsons.

2014
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 1: Is he an off ball linebacker? Is he an edge player?

2015
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 3: What is it that he is going to do? What

2016
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 3: is he gonna do with number eleven? Because number eleven

2017
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 3: is their best player? How does he maximize him? How

2018
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 3: does he unlock and unleash Michael Parsons.

2019
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: On the world.

2020
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 2: Kelvin Shepard is the new defensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions.

2021
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 2: I like the situation here. Why do I say that

2022
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 2: Because he's been the linebacker coachin is twenty twenty one.

2023
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 2: Now he's the defensive play callers. So the move continues

2024
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 2: the continuity which I called for in Dallas, which they

2025
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 2: don't have. So I think it's going to help the problem.

2026
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 2: I think in the Detroit right now with the Lions.

2027
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 2: Is John Morton taken over for Ben Johnson and as

2028
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 2: defensive couentna Aaron Glenn now is there with the Jets coach.

2029
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 2: So I think the offensive side may be more of

2030
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: a question in Detroit than the defensive side. That's the

2031
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 2: key right there. I think.

2032
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when I think about Detroit, I think about

2033
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 3: John Morton trying to figure out how to get this

2034
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,799
Speaker 3: offense going. He has big shoes to step into because

2035
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson was not on really really good at lightening

2036
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 3: up scoreboards. He did it with a flare, with pizzazz.

2037
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 3: Can John Morten live up to the hype that will

2038
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 3: proceed his arrival in terms of like this was a fun,

2039
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 3: dynamic offense.

2040
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 1: It was fun, but it was also physical. Can he

2041
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: keep that? Can he do it in his own way?

2042
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 3: But look, the standard is so high because they were

2043
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 3: so fun, so dynamic. That's an issue. On defense, Aaron

2044
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 3: Glenn did a great job of adapting. Kevin Sheppard would

2045
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 3: have to adapt on the fly. One of the things

2046
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 3: that Aaron Glenn did was able to constantly assess in

2047
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 3: evaluable his talent and then play to the talent.

2048
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 1: Can Kevin Shepard do the same thing? That's the meaning

2049
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: of question.

2050
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 2: Well, I mean as far as the defense of Detroit,

2051
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 2: they weren't they one of the lead leaders in the

2052
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 2: takeaways and scoring scoring in Russia? So to me, I

2053
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 2: mean things who probably stay the same defensively in Detroit.

2054
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 2: I mean you're just moving a guy off from the linebacker,

2055
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 2: coach a defensive coordinator, which I like that. I mean

2056
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 2: harving from within. I always said to myself, you know,

2057
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 2: why don't they go out and get the best available guy.

2058
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 2: I've kind of changed my philosophy on that. I think

2059
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 2: that you may be better off staying within the family

2060
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 2: because they know philosophies, and of course they know the players,

2061
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 2: so I think it may better off bringing them up

2062
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 2: through the ranks than getting a guy from outside.

2063
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Right.

2064
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes, but you know, like just because you're a

2065
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 3: good position coach doesn't mean you're ready to be a coordinator.

2066
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot that comes with it.

2067
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 3: And as much as I am for continuity and all

2068
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 3: of those things, you also want to make sure that

2069
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 3: you got the right guy. You have the right leader

2070
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 3: in the room, because that leadership piece is probably more

2071
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 3: important than the x'es and o's. Can you handle all

2072
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 3: of the things that come along with it.

2073
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: Can you lead the group?

2074
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 3: Can you get them to respond to what it is

2075
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 3: that you're asking them to do? Conuity doesn't always guarantee that.

2076
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 2: All right, Luana Rumo. I remember when he coached high

2077
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: school football in Staten Island. He was a defensive coach

2078
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 2: for the defensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals, and really

2079
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 2: and truly I think he may have been the air

2080
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 2: apparent if Zach Taylor was going to go, and people

2081
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 2: are right now they're saying that Zach Taylor's on the

2082
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 2: hot seat. I don't think that's going to happen, because

2083
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 2: you know, Dave Shuler stayed and I could have won

2084
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 2: more games in Dave Shuler. So Mike Brown doesn't five coaches.

2085
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 2: That was embarrassing, it really was. And he was a

2086
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 2: good guy, Dave, but he's better off in the restaurant business.

2087
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, Liu on a room went out of defensive

2088
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 2: coordinator for Indianapolis Colts. And the key that lou has

2089
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 2: going for him, I mean the fact that or the

2090
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 2: pressure he's got going for him. They got some defensive

2091
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 2: defensive deficiencies obviously in the Indianapolis, but they really and

2092
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 2: truly need to get a strong defense because the quarterback

2093
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 2: situation is the biggest question mark that team as so defensively,

2094
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 2: they got to make up for the questions on offense.

2095
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: I think we seem what we say because I thought

2096
01:36:59,040 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: I heard myself.

2097
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 2: Who he has to make up the blue mount of

2098
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Roouma is defensive coordinator.

2099
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 1: Of this defense.

2100
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the defense has to make up for

2101
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 3: what they have on offense. And here's the thing about

2102
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,919
Speaker 3: lou ennim Uruma, drastic departure from what they had previously

2103
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 3: on defense with Gus Bradley those guys. He comes over,

2104
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 3: he brings more complexity, more variety. Can his guys pick

2105
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 3: it up, that'd be the thing. And he has to

2106
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 3: learn quickly what they can and what they can't do

2107
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 3: when it comes to overloading their brains with the different

2108
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 3: switches and alignments.

2109
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: And those things. That's it. He is really good.

2110
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 3: Didn't get enough credit for the job that he did

2111
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. He should finally get the respect that he

2112
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 3: deserves in Indy because he's gonna help this defense, help

2113
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 3: this team win more games than they should.

2114
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you're a Jacksonville jadge Anthony Keppanelli. And I didn't

2115
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 2: know much about him because he was hired late. Any

2116
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 2: reason why he was hired so late in Jacksonville? And

2117
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 2: what has he gotta do? Because the only thing I

2118
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 2: read about this guy is that the players say, this

2119
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:59,799
Speaker 2: guy is like an intense guy with high energy.

2120
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, high energy fireball type. He's done a good job

2121
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 3: of kind of expanding what they were building upon previously.

2122
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 3: They were late in the process because all of the

2123
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 3: things that happened in Jacksonville was late. Remember it took

2124
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 3: them a while for Trent balk and you get out

2125
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 3: the building that was holding them up when it came

2126
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 3: to getting a head coach, and without a head coach,

2127
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 3: can't hire a decoordinator, so it took a while. But

2128
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 3: he's done a really good job thus far. We won't

2129
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 3: know what it's really going to be like until they

2130
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 3: start playing real games, but I can tell you the

2131
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 3: feedback that I've gotten from inside the building is look

2132
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 3: very very favorable, very positive. Everything kind of matches up

2133
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 3: in terms of the player's minds, and now it's about

2134
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 3: can the players play like It's one thing they always

2135
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 3: say good things about the coaches ahead of time, but

2136
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:43,719
Speaker 3: when we get into the thick of it where.

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Speaker 1: They continue to say those same things and believe.

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Speaker 2: All right, we get seven out of the eleven, which

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Speaker 2: isn't bad. With your permission, maybe we'll continue this next

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01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 2: week and maybe we'll move over to any offensive side

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01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 2: with the coaches. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my mother good, all good.

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01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 2: You're a good man. You're a good man.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 2: He's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman and of course, you

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01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 2: get him at Bucky Brooks on X and Andy Furman

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Speaker 2: FSR eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine the Blame Game,

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Speaker 2: and we may have Mike North join the Blame Game

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Speaker 2: as well, because Mike North is coming up right around

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Speaker 2: the corner. All right, So one of the all time

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Speaker 2: greats in this business joins you next, all right, the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Mike North will join us momentarily. He's

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman, and we are Fox Sports

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01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 2: Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. By the way, shortly after

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Speaker 2: the show, our podcast will be going up. If you

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Speaker 2: the air, we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

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Speaker 2: and here he is joining us, the Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: my former co host on the morning show on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Mike North. How are you, Mike? Say hi

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01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 2: to Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Bucky. First of all, hello to you, my friend,

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01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 6: and also to you. And it's been a long time,

2170
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Speaker 6: my friend. You still got the energy. You guys got

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01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 6: to be rolling right now. A lot of stuff going on,

2172
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 6: ready to go.

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01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,640
Speaker 2: Well, we want to congratulate you. You want a bigger war.

2174
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 2: But I have no idea what the name of it

2175
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: was in Chicago, had a big dinner for you. What

2176
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 2: was that all about anyway?

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Speaker 6: Well that was from Premiere, I mean the company of

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01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio, which Jason Barrett, the Barrett Media came

2179
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 6: up with. They were coming to Chicago with the convention,

2180
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 6: and they said, who are we going to give the

2181
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 6: Lifetime Achievement Award to? And you know what, I'm an

2182
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 6: outsider is you know, Andy, I was never embraced by

2183
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 6: inner more type management type of people.

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Speaker 2: So I wonder why. I wonder why they called me.

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01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 6: It was a complete utter surprise. I thought it was

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01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 6: a prank call. I said, Andy, get off the phone.

2187
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 6: I got things to do. And then no, he said, no,

2188
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 6: this is for real. And it was a great event.

2189
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 6: I sold out a lot of great people. A lot

2190
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 6: of folks came in from around the country because Bruce

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01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 6: Gilbert was also wantored and Danny Parkins from Half That's One.

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01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 6: So it was it was a great time. And you

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01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,639
Speaker 6: know what, after thirty four years, I guess they had

2194
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 6: nowhere else to go, so they gave it to me.

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01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 2: I guess. So I know that, buckyhead lest you wants

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01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 2: to talk you for a second.

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Speaker 1: Bucky, I am great. Mike.

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Speaker 3: Look, I got to ask you because I know you

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Speaker 3: worked with a long time with Andy Firmer.

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01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: You got to give me a Andy Firman story.

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Speaker 3: You got to give me a story because we've been

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01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 3: working together for a few years. But I know you

2203
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 3: know where some of the balls are buried. Let me

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01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 3: know something about Andy that I didn't know going into this.

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01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 6: It's the first time. I mean, I remember, my favorite

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01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 6: story is Andy. They tell me, Bruce Gilbert says, you're

2207
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 6: going to be working with Andy Furman. We want you

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01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:49,759
Speaker 6: to work in the mornings with Jonas Knox and Andy.

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Speaker 6: I go, okay, I just want to be the second guy.

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01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 6: I don't want to be in charge, nothing like that.

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01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 6: Letting Andy run the show, keep it the way it is.

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01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 6: Because I replaced the guy that was, you know, in

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01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 6: the second chair. And so I get a call that

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01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 6: evening the day I think the night before, if I'm

2215
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 6: not mistaken, and it's Andy and he says to me, hey, listen, Mike,

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01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 6: how are you. I go, good, Andy, and looking forward

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01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,759
Speaker 6: to it. I'm excited everything else. He goes, good, listen,

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01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 6: I meet your email. I'm going to send you the

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01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 6: script for the show. And I said, no, you're not.

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01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 6: You're not sending me the script for the show. He goes,

2221
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 6: what do you mean. I says, because I don't do that.

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01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 6: I says. Sports radio was designed to be on the

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01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 6: street corner. Whatever you want to talk about, I'll be

2224
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 6: ready to talk about okay, whether you want to talk hockey,

2225
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 6: you want to talk baseball, well, do you want to

2226
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 6: talk football, you want to talk anything. And that's the

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01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 6: way we did the show. I never got a script

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01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 6: from Andy. Andy was would just run to start the show,

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01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 6: and I think Andy would Telly. I think, I don't think.

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01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 6: I don't think. I was stumped too often. Andy came

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01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 6: up with some good stuff. But we had a lot

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01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 6: of fun. I think the one thing, Bucky that I

2233
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 6: see that we did that then I had fun with Andy.

2234
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 6: You laughed, you had like you're laughing now, while we're talking.

2235
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 6: And I don't see that as much anymore as in

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01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 6: people as I used to. It's more serious now, especially

2237
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 6: the TV talkers and stuff like that. And it was

2238
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 6: all about levity with us for the most part. I mean,

2239
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 6: we had a horse that galloped through the studio. You

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01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 6: know you heard day. I mean, we just did really

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01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:30,680
Speaker 6: off the wall things. We had a good time, and

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01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 6: I had as much fun with Andy and their crew

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01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 6: and working at Box for six years as I've had

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01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 6: anywhere else.

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01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:39,719
Speaker 2: I got a better story than that book. Are you ready?

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01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got a better story. And you got

2247
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 2: to go nuts. You remember this one? We had a

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01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 2: guest on our show, Jim Larra Nagum. He was the

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01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 2: basketball coach at University of Miami of Florida. Hey, I

2250
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 2: get on the phone and with him talk and say, hey, Jimmy,

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01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. I don't know why Italian's always become great

2252
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 2: basketball coaches, Rick Patino, John Calipari. And then he know

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01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 2: what he says to me, You know you're right, but

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01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm not Italian. It was unbelievable. I don't remember that one.

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Speaker 6: I remember that exactly. I also remember a lot of

2256
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 6: people hanging Uptonio.

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01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 2: Michigan State football coach hung up on us.

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01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there was a lot of guys Rick

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01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 6: petin Ar. You know, people got mad, e bent out

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01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 6: of shape. When when I when he got in all

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01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 6: that trouble. I mean, it's amazing to me. I mean

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01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 6: Rick Patino was one of my favorite coaches of all time.

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01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 6: But I mean you want to talk about a checkered pass.

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01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 6: I mean we were talking about him at Louisville when

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01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 6: they had the brothel going over there. So I mean

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01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 6: it was that he survived that. And I was at

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01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 6: Saint Johnson. He's and he's doing a great job, right right.

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01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask your opinion, and you have

2269
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 2: an opinion everything. What's your take on the n I

2270
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:54,799
Speaker 2: l now in college?

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01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 6: Well, if you remember, I was against it. In fact,

2272
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:03,799
Speaker 6: I had discussion on Twitter with Jay Billis and Stan Barrett,

2273
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 6: both were at ESPN, and I said, you know, California

2274
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 6: is burning right now, and you're worried about athletes getting

2275
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 6: paid this and that. I asked Jay Billis, how you

2276
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 6: never got paid? You went to Duke and now you're

2277
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 6: forty million dollars richer. I mean you survived off the

2278
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 6: scholarships and you know, you didn't starve and everything else,

2279
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 6: but they were dug in on the mill. I said,

2280
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 6: it's going to be a mess. The halves are going

2281
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 6: to get it. It's not going to be equally distributed.

2282
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 6: Stan Burrett ended up blocking me because I had a

2283
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,479
Speaker 6: difference of opinion. Yeah, well he's gone from there now,

2284
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 6: but he blocked me and because I had a difference

2285
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 6: of opinion on it, and I turned out to be right.

2286
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 6: It's a mess. It's ridiculous. You saw coaches. You see

2287
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 6: coaches now more babysitters than they are coaches. Yeah, they're

2288
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 6: all leaving there. Well save them left. I mean, so

2289
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 6: I knew that would be a mess. I knew Neil

2290
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 6: was the to be a disaster, and I still think

2291
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,679
Speaker 6: it's a disaster. I mean, when you got a guy,

2292
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 6: one guy driving a Rolls Royce, you know, banking millions,

2293
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 6: and then you got another guy who's got a gift

2294
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 6: certificate who blocks formed the Jersey Mics, that's not right.

2295
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 6: I think that it was supposed to be equal pay

2296
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 6: for everybody, but it's not. Dursey Anders made a ton

2297
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,799
Speaker 6: of doll drove around in an extensive garden his linemen.

2298
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:28,759
Speaker 6: We're getting a gift certificates to Jersey, Mikes or or

2299
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 6: some other thing.

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01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Buck, Mike, No none.

2301
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 3: I want to go on because off of that, because

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01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 3: you're a fixedure in Chicago. Just give me the state

2303
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 3: of Chicago sports. I know the Cubs are rolling, they

2304
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 3: have a guy from La pc PCA who's doing it.

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01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: But what about the White Sox. How do you feel

2306
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 1: about the Bears and the Bulls? Like, what is it?

2307
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 1: What give me the state of Chicago's force?

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01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 6: Well, I got a lot of scars, Bucky. You know that.

2309
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 6: You're a former NFL guy. You know about the Bears. Okay, uh,

2310
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 6: they did they We've had two cores, We've had maybe

2311
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:06,280
Speaker 6: one or two good quarterbacks in like sixty years. The

2312
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:10,759
Speaker 6: Bears right now are a team that are four plus

2313
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 6: four to twenty five to win their division. That's a

2314
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 6: long way away. Can they surprise people? I'm at the

2315
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 6: deal now, show me. I've been hearing for the last seven, eight,

2316
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 6: nine years. This guy's going to get it done. Justin

2317
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 6: Fields is going to get it done. Caleb Williams is

2318
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 6: going to get it done. We'll find out Ben Johnson selling,

2319
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 6: We'll pick it right now, But he's going to walk

2320
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 6: into a bus saw. They play in the worst stadium

2321
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 6: in football. It's the hardest stadium to get to. They've

2322
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 6: been dangling for a new stadium for two three years.

2323
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 6: They've mishandled that situation. They got a site that's as

2324
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 6: big as LA site Sofi Stadium where Arlington Park Racetrack

2325
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 6: used to be Andy you're familiar ration. It's bigger than Sofy.

2326
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 6: So we're waiting to move there. As far as the

2327
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 6: Cubs are concerned. What a trade. I mean, we created

2328
01:47:56,160 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 6: Hobby Bias for a PCA and he's right now number

2329
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 6: two in the MVP voting, which you know we were hoping,

2330
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 6: you know, after Bellinger left that you know we're dead now.

2331
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 6: I mean, this kid, PCA is probably going to get

2332
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 6: fifteen sixteen homers, driving fifty RBIs maybe catch everything in

2333
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 6: the upfield. We never thought he'd be this juggernaut right now.

2334
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 6: And I think he can be the MVP of the

2335
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 6: National League. I know that show A and I know

2336
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 6: that you know he sits on his rear end. He's

2337
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 6: a bad gambler, but he can play baseball. I'll tell

2338
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 6: you that right now, and I'll tell you are we

2339
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 6: going to give a DH another MVP A are we

2340
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 6: going to get maybe a guy like PCA who might

2341
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 6: end up with thirty five homers ninety RBIs one hundred

2342
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 6: runs scored, catching everything in psych He's a five tool

2343
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 6: player who basically I think if he plays fifteen sixteen

2344
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 6: years at this level, could be a Hall of Famer someday.

2345
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 6: Because there was a guy named Lou Brock that played

2346
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 6: for the Cubs for four years. He hit two forty

2347
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 6: We traded them to the Cardinals for Ernie Brochioso or

2348
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 6: on picture, but he never really got going as far

2349
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 6: as homers. He only had one hundred and forty nine.

2350
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 6: He wasn't as good defensively, he was maybe not as

2351
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 6: staff as PCA. So we're very high on the Cubs

2352
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 6: right now. They've got a very big lead right now,

2353
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 6: but no leads safe because you know, they're pictures. We

2354
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 6: have two main pictures out, but we're feeling good about them.

2355
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 6: The Sox stink, the Black Crocks stink, and the bull stink.

2356
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,440
Speaker 6: So I think I covered everything right now.

2357
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. You know this Mike Northers,

2358
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 2: I guess, and he's a Hall of Famer, A legend

2359
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 2: in the radio business, no doubt about that. But you know,

2360
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 2: Bucky played for University of North Carolina. They got a

2361
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 2: new football coach my name of Bill Belichick. What do

2362
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 2: you think the story's going on there with his girlfriend

2363
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 2: and whatever's going on. How's he going to do? How's

2364
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:49,880
Speaker 2: Bill going to do in North Carolina.

2365
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 6: I think it's interesting. I think it's going to be

2366
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 6: It's crazy. He was late birth light the other day.

2367
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 6: They showed him. He's that guy who was sweating. He

2368
01:49:57,040 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 6: was running, you know, and I know this you about

2369
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 6: his I'm getting close to his age now. I know

2370
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 6: he can't keep up with her. You know, she was

2371
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 6: running through the airport and everything else. I love Bill Belichick.

2372
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 6: I love what he did. I hope everything works out.

2373
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 6: Mike Robardi's over there right now. I think it's brought

2374
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 6: new interest. I want to dass Bucky when he was

2375
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 6: at North Carolina. I think that the car heels in

2376
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 6: that year you were there, what ninety one, Buckee ninety

2377
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 6: two or something like that. In ninety three three, I

2378
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 6: think Dean Smith was starting to wind down at that time.

2379
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 6: If I'm not mistaken, I don't think I think you

2380
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 6: guys got eating a second round for you guys for

2381
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 6: the football players, were you second class citizens or did

2382
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 6: Lawrence Taylor and maybe change all that. I gotta believe

2383
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 6: North Carolina basketball was one and you guys were number two?

2384
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 6: And what was that like? And were you still revered

2385
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 6: on campus most college football teams.

2386
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 1: No, definitely second class citizenship.

2387
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,759
Speaker 3: When it came to the basketball team, everything was always

2388
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 3: about the basketball team, but it was still you still

2389
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 3: got enough adulation in those things. But this place is

2390
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 3: always going to be about the basketball team. The university basically, like, uh,

2391
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 3: it's anonymous with UNC basketball, So I get that part

2392
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 3: of it. But they have a chance to kind of

2393
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 3: stem the tide, change the tide a little bit. Belichick

2394
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 3: has down some cool things to up the profile. But yeah,

2395
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 3: there were eyes on the program now than ever. We'll

2396
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 3: see what it looks like when the product hits the

2397
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 3: field up.

2398
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, you are the.

2399
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 2: Eyes on the program or the eyes on Jordan. That's

2400
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 2: what I want to know. Where the eyes are you

2401
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 2: talking about?

2402
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan? Jordan and his girlfriend.

2403
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll tell you this. I think that it's almost

2404
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 6: like a Deonce Anders type of situation. Everybody is anxious

2405
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 6: to see what happens. It's not as lambuoyant, it's not

2406
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 6: as uh you know, I mean, but it was a

2407
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 6: crazy situation in Colorado. Who's paying attention to Colorado football

2408
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 6: until you know, uh, Deon Sanders got there. I mean,

2409
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 6: so when he got there, he changed things. Of course,

2410
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 6: he brought iyes to the to the stadium and to

2411
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 6: the he sold out the game. So, you know, I

2412
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 6: think do'll Bellichick on with Bucky on this Andy. I

2413
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 6: think it's going to be curiosity. I think that the

2414
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 6: first three four games are going to be important for him.

2415
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 6: But there's no no doubt. It's a different situation and

2416
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 6: he brought a lot of cacher to that program. We'll

2417
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 6: see if it works out.

2418
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Buck, chile him a little bit and ask

2419
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 2: what of he things about women's sports.

2420
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he must have, he must have, he

2421
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 3: must have a strong take. Okay, so we're going to

2422
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 3: ask earlier. Yeah, so, so, so give me your take

2423
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 3: on the state of w n b A with Caitlin

2424
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:53,799
Speaker 3: Clark being the featured player of the sport.

2425
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, you know what, Caitlin Colark is

2426
01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 6: the greatest woman's basketball player I ever saw. I've seen

2427
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 6: them all. I saw, I saw him all I saw him,

2428
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 6: from and Drysdale to Cheryl Miller, Nancy Lieberman, I mean,

2429
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 6: all the great players from the past, and there's nobody.

2430
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 6: I mean, she's got Steph Curry Range. She's a tough

2431
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 6: She's a tough little nut, she really is. She gets

2432
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 6: added around. I still don't think her whole team sticks

2433
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 6: up for you know, you got the one girl. After

2434
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 6: a year and a half, somebody finally stood up with

2435
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 6: her to protect her, and everybody's making a big deal

2436
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 6: of it. I'd like to see more covalescing with the

2437
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 6: rest of the team. But the WNBA is all about

2438
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 6: Caitlin Clark. The only time I will watch it is

2439
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:49,960
Speaker 6: when she's on the Sky Chicago. I mean, it's the truth.

2440
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 6: They've lost fifty percent of their viewership when Caitlyn Clark

2441
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 6: was hurt. So you know, hopefully things will get better

2442
01:53:57,600 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 6: for her. She's the golden goose there. I don't know

2443
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:03,759
Speaker 6: what you'd even nuts with that, So you know, hopefully

2444
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 6: everybody will. But the people seem to enjoy on all

2445
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 6: of it. All the eyes are on the WNBA, not

2446
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 6: only because of Caitlin Clark because of the feistiness of

2447
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 6: the women. And I do think the refs need to

2448
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 6: be a little bit bigger. I don't know if they

2449
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,839
Speaker 6: need to bring in more male reps, but the referees

2450
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 6: that were in that game were female the other night

2451
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 6: and album were like five' four and these women are.

2452
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 6: Big these women are bigg and they lost control of the.

2453
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 6: Game so we'll see what.

2454
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 2: Happens, mike let me ask you a. Question we got

2455
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 2: a we got a little game we play called The Blame.

2456
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 2: Game would you want to hang around and play the

2457
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 2: blame game with?

2458
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 6: Us with you two? Guys are you kidding? Me? Absolutely?

2459
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 2: OH i stay, There, okay The Blame game coming up

2460
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 2: next With Mike north On Fox Sports. Radio all, right

2461
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 2: the blame came coming right. Up he Is Bucky brooks

2462
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 2: And Andy ferman our special Guest Mike north right here

2463
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 2: about eleven minutes before the top of the, hour at

2464
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 2: the top of the, hour which would be nine am

2465
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 2: on The East Coast countdown With brian, No Jeff, schwartz

2466
01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 2: And Bill. Krakenberger so stay tuned for that away live

2467
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 2: from The Fox Bust radio. Studios we got The Blame.

2468
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 2: Game let's play you ruin. Me it's all your. Fault,

2469
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 2: no it's your faults.

2470
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 1: In all your.

2471
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: Fault maybe it's everyone's, fault the. Liar that's why there's

2472
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 2: the blame game. Game let's figure out who to, Blame, Hi,

2473
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 2: patty let's play the blame game With Mike north And

2474
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 2: bucket broke to dow it all?

2475
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 5: Right all, right so with the start of the blame,

2476
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 5: GAME i got one for, everybody. Guys so with that,

2477
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 5: said earlier this, WEEK uh fabled running Back Adrian pearson

2478
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 5: for The Minnesota. Vikings uh was that a poker competition

2479
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 5: or a, tournament it would, Seem and, well it went

2480
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 5: a little.

2481
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 6: South.

2482
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 5: Guys he got into a big fight with a guy

2483
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 5: over a poker tournament and just you, know insanity.

2484
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:53,120
Speaker 1: Ensues who do you? Blame and BEFORE i say who

2485
01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 1: do you?

2486
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 5: Blame Mike, north you get to go, first since you

2487
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 5: are our beloved guess you're going, First Mike, North who

2488
01:55:59,040 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 5: do you? Blame?

2489
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 6: WELL i blame four. GUYS i blamed four. GUYS i

2490
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 6: blamed the, DEALER i blamed the guy that let those guys,

2491
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 6: in AND i guess the two guys that got into the.

2492
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 6: Fight but, seriously over hand of poker that got. SERIOUS

2493
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 6: i watched it And Adrian peterson got tagged a few

2494
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 6: times by this. Guy i'm going to blame at the

2495
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 6: end of the, day the celebrity that should know. Better

2496
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 6: but he's been initie had issues. Before But i'm gonna

2497
01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 6: Blame Adrian, peterson, who by the, way was the much bigger.

2498
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 6: Man but the other guy held his.

2499
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 1: OWN i don't Blame Adrian. Peterson, man he can't get

2500
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 1: involved in anything like. That he's the one who has

2501
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: everything to.

2502
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 3: Lose he has to be above, board like he just

2503
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 3: has to let that. Go whatever the dispute, Was we

2504
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 3: expect more from. Him he has to walk.

2505
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,320
Speaker 2: Away Adrian peterson is a public. Figure he got to know,

2506
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 2: better IF i will tell you as much Better tim

2507
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 2: get in the fight with those bums that hit his

2508
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 2: kid with a, stick all, Right that's All i'm. Saying

2509
01:56:58,320 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 2: So i'm happy with.

2510
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 6: Right and people brought that up. Too people brought that

2511
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:06,800
Speaker 6: up that he got his come up and because he

2512
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 6: had done the same thing with this. Kid but you know,

2513
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 6: what it was interesting and nobody really wanted to break the.

2514
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 2: Fight, up, Right you're right about? That all? Right?

2515
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:19,840
Speaker 5: Next all, Right, well speaking of keeping the fight. Going,

2516
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 5: here The knicks are trying to keep the fight going

2517
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 5: and trying to land a.

2518
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 2: Coach so who do you? Blame?

2519
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 4: Andy?

2520
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh mike nor.

2521
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Guess oh you know, What, Mike you.

2522
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 5: Get the privilege of going first every.

2523
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 2: Time, mike who do you?

2524
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 6: Blame it's a lot different than WHEN i was on

2525
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 6: With andy all the. Time they got together after a tough.

2526
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 6: Loss they got that far for the first time in.

2527
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 6: DECADES i Blamed dolan in The New York nick. Management

2528
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 6: they're not going to find a better coach Than. Tibbodo

2529
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 6: they actually asked About Dandy. DONOVAN i mean they actually

2530
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 6: asked About donovan bulls coach And, uh to be honest with,

2531
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 6: you the bess turned them. Down AND i was playing

2532
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 6: that he would, go but he's still not going to

2533
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 6: be as good As. Tibodol as a reactionary, MOVE i

2534
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 6: Blame dolan and The New York knicks.

2535
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 1: Management, look, YEAH i blame.

2536
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 3: Management like they thought they could get better and they're

2537
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 3: gonna find out it's gonna be hard to. Match Tip

2538
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,680
Speaker 3: ofdeau would give, them and so it's on.

2539
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 1: Them they got.

2540
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 3: Greedy he took them to the championship round and they're not,

2541
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 3: satisfied and so The knicks are the. Next they have

2542
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 3: an overinflated ego where they think they're bigger than what they,

2543
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 3: are so they give it they.

2544
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 2: DESERVE i Blame Leon rose of The. Knicks i'll tell you,

2545
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 2: what But i'm really happy about. THIS i think everybody

2546
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 2: in the league has banded together because they know The

2547
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 2: tim's got a raw. Deal so The bucks turn them

2548
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 2: down for their, Coach Houston rockets turned them, down The

2549
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 2: bulls turn them. Down when The knicks inquired about their coaching,

2550
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 2: Opportunities dallas turned them down. Too SO i think THAT

2551
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 2: i think ownership of these ball clubs, say, Look tim's

2552
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 2: got a row deal In New. York we're not gonna

2553
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 2: let them get our coach boom and the.

2554
01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 5: Deal all, Right, well, Guys so The Stanley cup ratings

2555
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 5: were lower than The Four nations tournament for THE. Nhi

2556
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 5: who do you, Blame, MIKE.

2557
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 6: I blame the. COVERAGE i blame the pregame, shows the postgame.

2558
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 6: SHOWS i think hockey should be a lot. BETTER i

2559
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 6: blame the. COMMISSIONER i guess you're only supposed to blame

2560
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:26,280
Speaker 6: one person, there but it's The florida. Hockey they expanded

2561
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 6: back in the day when they shouldn't know whether they

2562
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 6: had the original. Six they instead of expanding, slowly they

2563
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 6: brought in six seven new teams and then now since

2564
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 6: then they've expanded. MORE i know that then's gotten better,

2565
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 6: worldwide but it's always going to be the fourth. Sport

2566
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 6: The Florida panthers are a dominating. Team more people should

2567
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 6: know about. Them but you're seeing the two sports that

2568
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 6: were dominant back in the day hurting right. Now that

2569
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 6: would be THE nba and that would be THE. NHL

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01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 6: i will Blame Gary bettman on an expansion for what's

2571
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 6: happened to THE. Nhl hell and water, Coverage, yeah.

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02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:05,600
Speaker 3: Just too, much didn't dignant. Enough they didn't put it

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02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 3: on the proper. Pedals so that's why people aren't tuning.

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02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 2: In it's, unfortunate and you, know quite, honestly nationalis themselves

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02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 2: and that's WHY i think The Four Nations tournament had

2576
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 2: better ratings in. That but thank you so, Much stay

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02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 2: tuned for, Countdown have a great. Week, everybody see A

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02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:19,879
Speaker 2: sunday