Speaker 1: I love that people like have a personal opinion about
Speaker 1: Rachel's trajectory and how she tried to rise from the ashes.
Speaker 1: So La La was on Watch What Happens Live saying
Speaker 1: that she thought that Rachel was going to fade into obscurity,
Speaker 1: and she did say something interesting saying, like everybody deserves
Speaker 1: to make their coins, and like Rachel deserves to make
Speaker 1: her coins. But she and Lisa and everybody has such
Speaker 1: a massive opinion about the fact that she chose to
Speaker 1: do my podcast, Like everybody, it's hysterical. I love it,
Speaker 1: Like it's okay, relaxed. There's a lot of pockets. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of podcasts, a lot of television shows.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna make it. We're all gonna be okay that
Speaker 1: she decided to do my podcast. It's okay. Like Lalla
Speaker 1: called her, like the worst kind of person. I forgot
Speaker 1: what she said. She said some terrible thing. I remember.
Speaker 1: It was like things that she said, like you're the
Speaker 1: most disgusting person. You're nothing, like literally reduced her to
Speaker 1: trash and garbage. That's what happened on that reunion. Like
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch that reunion and you
Speaker 1: watch a person get beaten the shit at of pummeled.
Speaker 1: She had an affair, it happened. She's pretend she's a
Speaker 1: terrible person. She had an affair on television set in
Speaker 1: a bar with people cheating left, right and sideway. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: but everybody has such an opinion on the way that
Speaker 1: Rachel should have handled herself and told her story. Do
Speaker 1: you go back and tell your story to the person
Speaker 1: who called you a trash bag pile of garbage, to
Speaker 1: the den mother who sat there and allowed other people
Speaker 1: to emotionally abuse you. Do you go back to the
Speaker 1: producer who sat there and allowed you to be emotionally abused,
Speaker 1: and actually, when you tried to walk off set from
Speaker 1: being emotionally and verbally abused, says, wait, come back, You're
Speaker 1: a hunching bag. It's time to take more. Like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with it? It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: This is the environment. I'm supposed to go back and
Speaker 1: like share my story, Lisa vander Pump, Like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? La? La Kent should go to Randall
Speaker 1: Emmett and talk to him about, you know, how she's
Speaker 1: changed and survived the abuse that she's alleged he gave
Speaker 1: her which is possibly true. I don't know him, I
Speaker 1: don't know her, but like, what the fuck is wrong
Speaker 1: with people? I really wish she would have come to us,
Speaker 1: she would have come back to this show. Like how
Speaker 1: many people end up in an emotional health facility from
Speaker 1: a fucking television show? Is everyone okay? Is this normal?
Speaker 1: Like I'm the devil that Rachel reached out to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know her. Yeah, and sorry not sorry.
Speaker 1: I hadn't watched the show, but I saw clips of
Speaker 1: her being emotionally abused on the show, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: is this justified? Like this level, this level of abuse?
Speaker 1: So I mentioned her anecdotally, So I heard this thing,
Speaker 1: and I remember just saying it anecdotally, like yeah, this
Speaker 1: girl was a fucking human punching bag, you know, in
Speaker 1: the name of ratings and forever that'll be monetized and
Speaker 1: she's not making any money off of it. And I
Speaker 1: just mentioned it. She reached out to me. It's like,
Speaker 1: on and on and on, we gotta keep going about
Speaker 1: this girl doing my show. It fucking happened, Yes, it happened. Also,
Speaker 1: you know what happened? This very show is nominated for
Speaker 1: Best Culture Podcast. Sorry not sorry, so I guess Rachel
Speaker 1: was not that stupid and picking my podcast to come
Speaker 1: on to share her story, and also picking me to
Speaker 1: produce her podcast cause she's fucking backing a winner. She's
Speaker 1: not on some other derivative podcast that didn't get Best
Speaker 1: Pop Culture Podcast nomination. Okay, So there are a lot
Speaker 1: of rumblings about vander Pump Rules and James, this guy
Speaker 1: who I don't believe that I've ever met, not that
Speaker 1: I remember. I think I've seen him before, a British
Speaker 1: DJ who's on vander Pump Rules. Now I don't really
Speaker 1: know the people on that show. I met Rachel through
Speaker 1: the Reality Reckoning when she reached out and then did
Speaker 1: the podcast, and I think, like La La and I
Speaker 1: have messaged in the past, maybe through social media or
Speaker 1: just I'm aware of her. But this guy James, there
Speaker 1: are so many rumblings about him, alleged abuse by so
Speaker 1: many different people, and there are now blogs about it
Speaker 1: and articles about it, and podcasts about it and specific
Speaker 1: examples cited. And I hesitated to air part of the
Speaker 1: Rachel interview about this, and and other people have reached
Speaker 1: out to me. So I'm trying to tread lately because
Speaker 1: I can't think of a worse thing that could be
Speaker 1: said about someone. The thing about selective cancelation is that
Speaker 1: it doesn't make a lot of sense and it doesn't
Speaker 1: have a consistency to it. So there are people who
Speaker 1: have been accused of sexual abuse or physical abuse that
Speaker 1: then are exonerated because it's not proven, or it's come
Speaker 1: out to be that it wasn't true or someone was lying,
Speaker 1: and their lives are kind of ruined forever. And what's
Speaker 1: interesting is that reality television is such a low down,
Speaker 1: dirty dump that it really doesn't matter if there are
Speaker 1: accusations against you for physical abuse. So there's a guy
Speaker 1: who climbs on top of a girl below deck who's drunk,
Speaker 1: and he's thrown off. I guess there were many incidents
Speaker 1: before that with this particular guy, end of people, but
Speaker 1: he's thrown off, never to be seen again. And then
Speaker 1: there's a guy who's very popular and good looking and
Speaker 1: charming on vander Pomp Rules, who is you know, a
Speaker 1: favorite of not only like the people in charge there,
Speaker 1: but also many of the fans, and so many people
Speaker 1: have accused him of abuse. I mean, that's just the truth.
Speaker 1: If any of this is true, it's this is a
Speaker 1: person who's protected because he's working on a show that
Speaker 1: is now part of the realm, that is profitable, that
Speaker 1: had its stratospheric rise, which also was the exponential demise
Speaker 1: of Rachel and Tom's still there. And it's just interesting
Speaker 1: that if someone's making it rain, they are protected. That
Speaker 1: was what happened years for you years with Harvey Einstein.
Speaker 1: He was protected because he was making it rain and
Speaker 1: he was so powerful. Now certainly nobody from you know,
Speaker 1: a small reality television show is is you know, too
Speaker 1: big to fail. But I can't imagine that many people
Speaker 1: who if they were accused of this kind of accusation
Speaker 1: by so many different people. So I just think it's
Speaker 1: interesting that in some cases just the accusation would be
Speaker 1: grounds for firing or investigation. And this guy has a
Speaker 1: lot going on that people are talking about him, just
Speaker 1: hearing in the periphery, just like seeing an eye, blogs
Speaker 1: and comments and like people's podcasts, And I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: don't want other people like get in major trouble for
Speaker 1: just like that association being there. But no, not this,
Speaker 1: not in this case. You know, protect the realm, protect
Speaker 1: the good looking charming, you know, one with a British accent.
Speaker 1: For sure. I really don't know enough about the show,
Speaker 1: which I was criticized about, which is hilarious because I
Speaker 1: certainly am not looking to like get myself more dirty
Speaker 1: by watching dirty television. But my understanding is that he's
Speaker 1: like a favorite. You know, he's charming and charismatic, and
Speaker 1: he's a good looking guy. I mean, I see you
Speaker 1: know what you see that it's I can't compare him
Speaker 1: to Danny Masterson, but I'm just saying a lot of
Speaker 1: people defended Danny Masterson. And then I think it was
Speaker 1: Christina Ricci who came out and was like, yeah, just
Speaker 1: because these guys are charming doesn't mean they can't be
Speaker 1: bad guys. Like bad guys can make you smile, can
Speaker 1: make you laugh, can make you feel good, can can
Speaker 1: be charming, can be loving. Bad guys you know, do
Speaker 1: good things. I don't know James, I've never met him.
Speaker 1: He seems entertaining and charismatic and charming. I'm just noticing
Speaker 1: that so many different people are talking about him. And
Speaker 1: one person who's very connected to the cast called me
Speaker 1: during the reality reckoning. Two other people directly told me,
Speaker 1: and then it was allegedly caught out of a reunion.
Speaker 1: This whole discussion about this, because that's not good for
Speaker 1: a grotto, and it's not good for business. It's just
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. It's just it's fucking crazy.