1 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: I love that people like have a personal opinion about 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Rachel's trajectory and how she tried to rise from the ashes. 3 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: So La La was on Watch What Happens Live saying 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: that she thought that Rachel was going to fade into obscurity, 5 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: and she did say something interesting saying, like everybody deserves 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: to make their coins, and like Rachel deserves to make 7 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: her coins. But she and Lisa and everybody has such 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: a massive opinion about the fact that she chose to 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: do my podcast, Like everybody, it's hysterical. I love it, 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: Like it's okay, relaxed. There's a lot of pockets. There 11 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: are a lot of podcasts, a lot of television shows. 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna make it. We're all gonna be okay that 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: she decided to do my podcast. It's okay. Like Lalla 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: called her, like the worst kind of person. I forgot 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: what she said. She said some terrible thing. I remember. 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: It was like things that she said, like you're the 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: most disgusting person. You're nothing, like literally reduced her to 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: trash and garbage. That's what happened on that reunion. Like 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: if you go back and watch that reunion and you 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: watch a person get beaten the shit at of pummeled. 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: She had an affair, it happened. She's pretend she's a 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: terrible person. She had an affair on television set in 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: a bar with people cheating left, right and sideway. Okay, great, 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: but everybody has such an opinion on the way that 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: Rachel should have handled herself and told her story. Do 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: you go back and tell your story to the person 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: who called you a trash bag pile of garbage, to 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: the den mother who sat there and allowed other people 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: to emotionally abuse you. Do you go back to the 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: producer who sat there and allowed you to be emotionally abused, 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: and actually, when you tried to walk off set from 32 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: being emotionally and verbally abused, says, wait, come back, You're 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: a hunching bag. It's time to take more. Like, what 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with it? It doesn't make any sense. 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: This is the environment. I'm supposed to go back and 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: like share my story, Lisa vander Pump, Like, what are 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: you talking about? La? La Kent should go to Randall 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: Emmett and talk to him about, you know, how she's 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: changed and survived the abuse that she's alleged he gave 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: her which is possibly true. I don't know him, I 41 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: don't know her, but like, what the fuck is wrong 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: with people? I really wish she would have come to us, 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: she would have come back to this show. Like how 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: many people end up in an emotional health facility from 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: a fucking television show? Is everyone okay? Is this normal? 46 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Like I'm the devil that Rachel reached out to me. 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: I didn't even know her. Yeah, and sorry not sorry. 48 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: I hadn't watched the show, but I saw clips of 49 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: her being emotionally abused on the show, and I'm like, 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: is this justified? Like this level, this level of abuse? 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: So I mentioned her anecdotally, So I heard this thing, 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: and I remember just saying it anecdotally, like yeah, this 53 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: girl was a fucking human punching bag, you know, in 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: the name of ratings and forever that'll be monetized and 55 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: she's not making any money off of it. And I 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: just mentioned it. She reached out to me. It's like, 57 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: on and on and on, we gotta keep going about 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: this girl doing my show. It fucking happened, Yes, it happened. Also, 59 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: you know what happened? This very show is nominated for 60 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Best Culture Podcast. Sorry not sorry, so I guess Rachel 61 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: was not that stupid and picking my podcast to come 62 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: on to share her story, and also picking me to 63 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: produce her podcast cause she's fucking backing a winner. She's 64 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: not on some other derivative podcast that didn't get Best 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Pop Culture Podcast nomination. Okay, So there are a lot 66 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: of rumblings about vander Pump Rules and James, this guy 67 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: who I don't believe that I've ever met, not that 68 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: I remember. I think I've seen him before, a British 69 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: DJ who's on vander Pump Rules. Now I don't really 70 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: know the people on that show. I met Rachel through 71 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: the Reality Reckoning when she reached out and then did 72 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: the podcast, and I think, like La La and I 73 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: have messaged in the past, maybe through social media or 74 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: just I'm aware of her. But this guy James, there 75 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: are so many rumblings about him, alleged abuse by so 76 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: many different people, and there are now blogs about it 77 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: and articles about it, and podcasts about it and specific 78 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: examples cited. And I hesitated to air part of the 79 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Rachel interview about this, and and other people have reached 80 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: out to me. So I'm trying to tread lately because 81 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: I can't think of a worse thing that could be 82 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: said about someone. The thing about selective cancelation is that 83 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: it doesn't make a lot of sense and it doesn't 84 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: have a consistency to it. So there are people who 85 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: have been accused of sexual abuse or physical abuse that 86 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: then are exonerated because it's not proven, or it's come 87 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: out to be that it wasn't true or someone was lying, 88 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: and their lives are kind of ruined forever. And what's 89 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: interesting is that reality television is such a low down, 90 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: dirty dump that it really doesn't matter if there are 91 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: accusations against you for physical abuse. So there's a guy 92 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: who climbs on top of a girl below deck who's drunk, 93 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: and he's thrown off. I guess there were many incidents 94 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: before that with this particular guy, end of people, but 95 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: he's thrown off, never to be seen again. And then 96 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: there's a guy who's very popular and good looking and 97 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: charming on vander Pomp Rules, who is you know, a 98 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: favorite of not only like the people in charge there, 99 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: but also many of the fans, and so many people 100 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: have accused him of abuse. I mean, that's just the truth. 101 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: If any of this is true, it's this is a 102 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: person who's protected because he's working on a show that 103 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: is now part of the realm, that is profitable, that 104 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: had its stratospheric rise, which also was the exponential demise 105 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: of Rachel and Tom's still there. And it's just interesting 106 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: that if someone's making it rain, they are protected. That 107 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: was what happened years for you years with Harvey Einstein. 108 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: He was protected because he was making it rain and 109 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: he was so powerful. Now certainly nobody from you know, 110 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: a small reality television show is is you know, too 111 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: big to fail. But I can't imagine that many people 112 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: who if they were accused of this kind of accusation 113 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: by so many different people. So I just think it's 114 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: interesting that in some cases just the accusation would be 115 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: grounds for firing or investigation. And this guy has a 116 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: lot going on that people are talking about him, just 117 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: hearing in the periphery, just like seeing an eye, blogs 118 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: and comments and like people's podcasts, And I'm thinking to myself, 119 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: don't want other people like get in major trouble for 120 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: just like that association being there. But no, not this, 121 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: not in this case. You know, protect the realm, protect 122 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: the good looking charming, you know, one with a British accent. 123 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: For sure. I really don't know enough about the show, 124 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: which I was criticized about, which is hilarious because I 125 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: certainly am not looking to like get myself more dirty 126 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: by watching dirty television. But my understanding is that he's 127 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: like a favorite. You know, he's charming and charismatic, and 128 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: he's a good looking guy. I mean, I see you 129 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: know what you see that it's I can't compare him 130 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: to Danny Masterson, but I'm just saying a lot of 131 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: people defended Danny Masterson. And then I think it was 132 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Christina Ricci who came out and was like, yeah, just 133 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: because these guys are charming doesn't mean they can't be 134 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: bad guys. Like bad guys can make you smile, can 135 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: make you laugh, can make you feel good, can can 136 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: be charming, can be loving. Bad guys you know, do 137 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: good things. I don't know James, I've never met him. 138 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: He seems entertaining and charismatic and charming. I'm just noticing 139 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: that so many different people are talking about him. And 140 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: one person who's very connected to the cast called me 141 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: during the reality reckoning. Two other people directly told me, 142 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: and then it was allegedly caught out of a reunion. 143 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: This whole discussion about this, because that's not good for 144 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: a grotto, and it's not good for business. It's just 145 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: fucking crazy. It's just it's fucking crazy.