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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen a hant for blacks widely assumed to

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Speaker 1: be guilty of a range of promiscuities. Temperance was an

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Speaker 1: issue that undermines such stereotypes. For black women reformers. Their

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Speaker 1: for another reason. Their public association with elite white women

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Speaker 1: reformers served to affirm their own true womanhood. It was

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Speaker 1: no coincidence that at the time of the Knight's meeting

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Speaker 1: and the WCTU organization, Shelby County's Attorney General made a rare,

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Speaker 1: if backhanded declaration of moral equivalency between black and white women.

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Speaker 1: The precise context of the statement is unclear, but according

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Speaker 1: to an article that i'da wrote in a response, the

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Speaker 1: attorney general had proclaimed that black women were no longer

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Speaker 1: the harlots they had been in the past. They could

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Speaker 1: be as decent or disgraceful as white women. Wells thought

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Speaker 1: not Wales, though not appreciative of the positive sentiment, wrote

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Speaker 1: a mild corrective that was published in the White owned

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Speaker 1: York Freemen. Black women, she said, were not consoled by

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Speaker 1: the knowledge that aristocratic circles furnished parallel examples of immorality.

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Speaker 1: The most disheartening aspect of race relations was the wholesale,

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Speaker 1: contentious defamation of black women and the refusal to believe

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Speaker 1: there are among us mothers, wives and maidens who have

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Speaker 1: attained a true, noble and refining womanhood. Ida added that

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Speaker 1: she only wanted them to be given equal credit for

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Speaker 1: their virtues. Hey, welcome to the Black au Tests podcast

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Speaker 1: And uh, that excerpt that I read is from Ida

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Speaker 1: One of the things people always skip over is that

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Speaker 1: respectability politics used to be revolutionary politics. You know, we

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Speaker 1: addition to just survival, it was also like to prove

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Speaker 1: And the reason it was important is because the shit

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Speaker 1: They had sciences, phrenology and things like this that were like,

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Speaker 1: But as long as you had black people, you always

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Speaker 2: side the next. People say that, but it's a difference

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00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 2: between saying it and actually allowing yourself to actually go

437
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: through the through that process.

438
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: And the thing is, you never quote unquote get over grief.

439
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people say that because they

440
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: don't want to deal with your sadness, so they tell

441
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: people to quote unquote get over You never get over grief.

442
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 3: You learn how to live with it.

443
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think also there's like a you know, I know,

444
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: when Peg died, it was interesting because U after the funeral,

445
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to record the show, you know, and maybe

446
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: that's when maybe that's you know, when you go, okay,

447
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm this is what I'm supposed to be doing in

448
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: my life. Because you would think, oh no, I'm good now,

449
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, nothing to say nothing, you know, And I

450
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: thought about it all day, like I'm probably not gonna

451
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: want to do this show. You know, it's sad, but

452
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: I also wanted to put down what she meant, right,

453
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: so and then I think, also, it comes in ways,

454
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: it does. You know. It's not something that you know,

455
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, for me anyway, it's not something that hits

456
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: me all at once. You know, you think back to

457
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: a memory, a birthday, things like that. So I think

458
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: that man too, and you know, only time can tell,

459
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: you know. I think also it's different when you can

460
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: like kind of prepare a bit, you know. With PEG,

461
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: I was able to prepare, I was able to you know,

462
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: go say goodbye kind of, and I think that made

463
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: a big difference, you know. But obviously, uh, you know,

464
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: it's it's just how you can, how you manage, you know,

465
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: and I know you like, uh, you know, you're you're

466
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: a person that for and it's not the stereotypical like

467
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: thing that people say, but you know, you are a

468
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: very strong person. You know, like you're you're able to

469
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: process things on a way and keep your happiness and

470
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: keep your joy. You know, you've really fought for that,

471
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: and so you know that I think that's it. And

472
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: then also it's kind of like even with what we

473
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: do and I think now with social media, it's like

474
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: you feel like you're in a fish bowl a little bit. Yes,

475
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: you do, Like, am I doing this right? You know?

476
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: Being an adult? Am I? Am I adult? Team? Right?

477
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: Am I? The right amount of sad? Am I the

478
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: right amount of have I? Can I have joy? Now?

479
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: Can I? You know? Like what what do I have

480
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: to do? You know and all that stuff. So you know,

481
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, you know, like we are

482
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: a unit. You know, I'm here for you and whatever

483
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: we have to do. You know, I got you and

484
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you want to do. You know, like

485
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: I probably asked you. He probably is annoyed. I actually

486
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: several times a day like sure, you won't do shouse.

487
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: You don't got to do show. We don't got to

488
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: do a show. But you know, I at the same time,

489
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: I remember you know when Peg did you know, he

490
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: was like should you do show?

491
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 3: We won't do show?

492
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: And I was like absolutely, you know, like this is

493
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: a place where we go we can be ourselves and

494
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: and it's what.

495
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: We do, right, is what we do.

496
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: And it's also one of the things where I, like

497
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: I said, I hadn't physically seen my mom.

498
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: I've virtually seen her. I have physically seen her since.

499
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: I was in my twenties, like I'm like twenty, I mean,

500
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: I'm forty now. So we're going to view her body

501
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna cremate her.

502
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: Because you know, truth be told is very expensive. She

503
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: has family, she got family there, she has family down

504
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: here too.

505
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: Is very very expensive to fly bodies, you know, and

506
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: it's extra calls. You're talking about eight, nine, ten thousand

507
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: dollars just you know, to fly the body for the

508
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: for the funeral arrangements and all that stuff.

509
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: It's very very expensive. And so you know, I'm at peace.

510
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: You know.

511
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: It's just make I think.

512
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: Right now, it's more my mind is in get it

513
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: done mode. I don't know if that makes sense, because

514
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't have any brothers and sisters, literally just me

515
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: making the decision. So I don't really got to bounce

516
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: off nobody. I don't have to debate or argue with

517
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: anybody or I'll dooky. I hear anybody the point of

518
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: view outside of my own, which can't be good and bad.

519
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, I kind of

520
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: me and Mama had already decided what we were gonna

521
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: do with Mama. We had already decided, you know, if

522
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: something was to happen, we was gonna go. We were

523
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: going to make it small, we were going to make

524
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: it cute. If you could come, come and then don't don't.

525
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: But also it's one of them things where you gotta

526
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: keep it real. Ma. Mama has been alive sixty eight years.

527
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: If y'all cared enough, y'all know what she was, you.

528
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 3: Would have took the time to come and see you.

529
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: I hate to be like that, and I you know,

530
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 2: I hate to be flat footed like that, but that

531
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: is the.

532
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: Truth I think. Also, and I don't know if I

533
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: don't notice a black thing necessarily, even in my mind,

534
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: I associated with a black thing. But of course I've

535
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: really only been around black death in my life. But

536
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: I know, some people get super dramatic with the funeral,

537
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: super dramatic with the will, super dramatic with that type

538
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: of shit, And you know, it's like it's like something

539
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: out of a you know, a Tyler Perry or something. Yeah,

540
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the reasons I don't really knock

541
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry too much because I'm like, all this shit

542
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: comes from somewhere, like just because certain black people is

543
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: kind of ashamed of it or think we move past

544
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: it or it's ignorant, But all these stereotypes of shit

545
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: in his work comes from real life. And we all

546
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: know when you know, my grandma passes, you know, people

547
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: want to argue about this and who's gonna get that?

548
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: And you know who we need this type of arrangement

549
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: and this just home and this preacher like it's you know,

550
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: and it becomes another form of stress. You know it does.

551
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: And you know you would think that when you pass,

552
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: you don't want your loved ones to be stressed. You know,

553
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: you want them to you don't, like you somewhere in

554
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: the Great Beyond or the Great Nothingness or whatever, you're

555
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: not sitting around thinking like these niggas better have these

556
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: type of flowers and they better not do this, and

557
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, I want to be buried on a Tuesday

558
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: or whatever, Like you're not thinking that shit as sad

559
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: as it is, But funerals are for the living, you know,

560
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: these these moments are for the living. And I think

561
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: certain people it's just it's a thing to fight over

562
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: and and that's how their grief forms, and that fighting,

563
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: that anger and stuff. But yeah, you know, obviously not

564
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: looking forward to it, but I do want to just

565
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: be there support you and show you, you know, like

566
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: and the same way. That's the deal, you know, like

567
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: when you get married, that's the thing. Is sickness and

568
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: health is death. Do you part? Is you know better

569
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: or worse? It's all that shit. And I think, you know,

570
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: when people romanticize love and marriage and unions and stuff,

571
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: I always feel like they think of a happy shit,

572
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, they think the good the good ship, you know.

573
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: And I think, and maybe this will be one of

574
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: these weird episodes of the show. We just talk about

575
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of deep shit. But I think increasingly what

576
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: has happened is is, especially now with social media and

577
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: the way we can disconnect so easily, we cherry pick,

578
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: and we also cherry pick what we present to the world.

579
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to present to you, uh,

580
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: the thing that made me cry. I don't want to

581
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: present to you the thing that made me upset. I

582
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: don't want to present to you the thing that you

583
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: know even and it's sometimes opposite. I don't want to

584
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: show you what makes me happy. Maybe I gotta I

585
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: gotta go fund me and I need y'all to help

586
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: me make my rent. So if I show y'all that

587
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: I just uh fucking played PlayStation all day, I ain't

588
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: gonna get the money. So, you know, like people can

589
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: pet cherry pick what they present to the world, and

590
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I think we have in that way. We've always been

591
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: able to do it. But now these tools are so

592
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: fucking refined, Like you can, I mean, you can find

593
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: out something. Somebody can be a complete fucking social path

594
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: and you have no idea because their online presence looks

595
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: one way, so it could be depressed, but their online

596
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: presient can look a differ so one could be faking depression,

597
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: soone could be faking trauma. Likens all this type of stuff,

598
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: and we don't really know each other anymore. And I

599
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: think these these situations, the stressful like family type of situations,

600
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: are the ones are the moments where it's like, no,

601
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: this is what real bonds are. To some extent, I'm

602
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: not saying if you had a toxic, terrible family, you

603
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: have to keep healing, know with that ship, I'm not

604
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: I definitely don't believe in that. But this is real.

605
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: You don't get to hide, you know, the stuff from it.

606
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: Our marriage. Marriage has to be real if it's gonna work.

607
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: You know, you can't. You can't be like, well, all right,

608
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: I see you crying. I'm going to the gym. I'll holler.

609
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

610
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you don't want to do with emotions.

611
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be out there with craiging them a right,

612
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: then take care of that, you know. So I think,

613
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, these are these are the moments that I

614
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: that And I'm not saying in a in a positive

615
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: like fun way, but this is the ship that I

616
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: anticipate when we got married, you know, when we you know,

617
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: this is the ship you have to anticipate. And people don't.

618
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, people sometimes don't like to hear me like

619
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: I have friends, and especially if they're single, because you

620
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: know their aspiration they're looking forward to, you know, relationships

621
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: and marriage and stuff and I and I and I

622
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm with that. Hey, if you want it, if you

623
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: like it, I love it. But sometimes they don't like

624
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: talking to me about that kind of ship because I'm

625
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: a bit fatalistic with it. Because I'm like, well, it's

626
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: kind of a sad endeavor. You're signing up to watch

627
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: another person slowly die for the rest of your life.

628
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: That's that's the goal. Essentially, one of y'all was out here.

629
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: Unless y'all both go at the same time, right.

630
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: So you know, you try to think about you enjoy

631
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: the ups as much as you can, You enjoy the

632
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: the day to day as much as you can. But

633
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: then I anticipate and I want to I look at

634
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: it as like a test, and it's like a not

635
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: something to be avoided, but something to be understood. Is

636
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: that I want to be the crutch I want to

637
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: be somebody can I don't want to be, you know,

638
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: like sometimes you gotta be the strong ones. Sometimes you

639
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: gotta you get to sometimes you're the one that's going

640
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: through it in your week, you know, like it's you know,

641
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: obviously quotes around week and strong there, but right, you know,

642
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: like I think that's the ship that that matters. Sometimes

643
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: somebody gonna be holding you up, and sometimes they gonna

644
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna be holding them up. And I my personal

645
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: opinion is that part of marriage and friendship and all

646
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: this stuff is not romanticized enough. We romanticize the wedding,

647
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: We romanticize the honeymoon, We romanticize the anniversaries, we romanticize birth,

648
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: we romanticize, you know, all this other ship that isn't

649
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: the stuff that counts. You know, like you can go

650
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: through good times and just about anybody, most people ain't

651
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: gonna ruin a good time. They're not. You know, the

652
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: money flowing, the champagne is bubbly, the pictures look great.

653
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: Come on, but when you got to go a I

654
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: might have to default on my student loan or can

655
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: I get my student loan?

656
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: What you call it? Heard?

657
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Right? And and I you know, and I'm not trying

658
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: to take the romance out of it. I feel like

659
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: these things are romantic, you know. I feel like that's

660
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: the that's the real fucked up part is you know,

661
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: you watch a round com and it's mostly good ship.

662
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: They have one fight and then back to good ship. Right,

663
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: That's that's that's and it's always like near the beginning

664
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: of a relationship or something like that. And I'm like,

665
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, the stuff where the love that you you know,

666
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: fill your tank up with the stuff where you have

667
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: to like use that fuel. Is this ship you know

668
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: it's the hospital stage. It's yes, sir, you knows, it's

669
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: not all gravy, you know. And at the same time,

670
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that doesn't make it worth it.

671
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm you have to have some love for both. And

672
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: there's another analogy that I lose people on a lot

673
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: of times because they because we've been so conditioned to

674
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: not see love as one fountain as one well, we

675
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: see love as like all these different streams. But I

676
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: think it's one. Well, but think about your child. You

677
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: don't go, I love my child. Oh they sick. I

678
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: love my child. Oh they made a mistake. Fuck them,

679
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: you know. But why like people have a different relationship

680
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: with their children, because they really that's the closest we

681
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: have the unconditional love. People really will be like, they

682
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: made a mistake, and I talked, it's a learning moment.

683
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: I forgive them, you know. I remember once I asked

684
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: on Facebook, when's the last time you apologize? When was

685
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: the last time you accept the apology? I'd say over

686
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: half the answers with people talking about their kids, which

687
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: means that they only open their hearts up to literally

688
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: their children. Right, no one else is allowed to make

689
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: a mistake. They're not allowed. They don't apologize to anyone else,

690
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: they don't accept apolog from anyone else. And I'm like,

691
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: to me, all love flows from that same well, so correct,

692
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: you have to have some of that which a romantic

693
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: partner too. I'm not saying it's the exact same obviously,

694
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: but you know, I feel like that partnership and that

695
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: that is not spoken of enough. Yeah.

696
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: And also it's one of those things where different people's

697
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: expectations is very different because I remember one time when

698
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: you had got sick and I was in the hospital

699
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: for me. How can I say it? I didn't think

700
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: twice about it. I was like, Oh, this is the

701
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: shit I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed to be here.

702
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to worry about you. I'm supposed because you know,

703
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: because the thing is, uh, you know, you have a network,

704
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: but at the same time, you try to handle things

705
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: the best you can by yourself, and so you know,

706
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: I literally spent the bulk of the night there by myself.

707
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: You know, I contacted your parents like the next day,

708
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: but my thing was being considered.

709
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't want to call y'all at midnight.

710
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: You don't wake y'all up. They was like that me,

711
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: like if what are you talking about? Girl? But but

712
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: but in my mind, I was like, your mind, I'm yours.

713
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: You're my responsibility. I'm supposed to carry this burden. I'm

714
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: supposed to to be here. I'm supposed to sit here, you.

715
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 3: Know, in them in the room for hours.

716
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: You know, in the er, in an uncomfortable lass chair,

717
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 2: you know, just sitting there, you know, cause I called

718
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: my job and I was waitress, and then I called

719
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: my job and I told them, Look, I told them

720
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: my husband's sick. I'm gonna tell you right now, I

721
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: don't know when I'm gonna come back, and I'm not

722
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: coming back to.

723
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: He get well, y'all do whatever the fuck y'all got to.

724
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: Do, because I feel like this, this ain't the first job,

725
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: and this ain't this won't be my last one, but

726
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: my husband is gonna be here whether or not I

727
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: have this motherfucker or not. And so you literally have

728
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 2: to be like situations.

729
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean when you were in the hospital at the operation,

730
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: and uh I was you know, basically stay overnight every

731
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: night and then uh go home. You know what's like

732
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: visitors or somebody came I would go home and shower

733
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: and change and do the stuff for the podcast, and

734
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: then come back to the hospital. And it was crazy

735
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: because so many people are like, like people that worked

736
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: there in ships, like, so you staying here, and I'm like,

737
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: they were.

738
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: Surprised to see you actually slip slept on.

739
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 4: That, ye know.

740
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: I was like, why, you know, basically essentially like who

741
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: the fuck wouldn't you know? People don't But I guess, right,

742
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: I guess a lot of people don't knock. I mean,

743
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: when you think about it, that's that place is a

744
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: tough place. A hospital is a tough place. It's a

745
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: this very few times there's something good going down in

746
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: the hospital. You're going through the ship, you're going through

747
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: the mud, you're going through the down part of being together.

748
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: You know, someone brought up in a chat to hey man,

749
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: everybody don't have the tools for this, and some of

750
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: this stuff don't Some of this stuff you gain as

751
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: you get older. Uh, you gain as you want to

752
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: trust people. You learn what makes a healthy relationship. Some

753
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: stuff you have to unlearn. You know, maybe you didn't

754
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: grow up with all this trust and and shit, I'm

755
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: very fortunate to have grown up with the family. I

756
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: have to see a lot of positive stuff, you know,

757
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: not saying everybody's perfect, blah blah blah, but I got

758
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: to see a lot of positive things, you know, conflict resolution, compromise,

759
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, the emotional side of things and the quote

760
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: unquote logical side of things, and how both of them

761
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: can miss sometimes are obvious or misunderstand each other. And

762
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 1: I think that kind of stuff is is really where

763
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, that's where it is, that's where that's where

764
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: you're learning how to be ready for this kind of shit.

765
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: And sometimes you just don't know you ready until happens.

766
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: And there's no blueprint, there's no road map for it.

767
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: There's not And and the thing is, you don't know

768
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: what you're made of until you're under pressure. And pressure

769
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: but pipes, so you know, when you're under pressure, what's

770
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: in you has got to come out. And that's what

771
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: people don't understand. If you're inconsiderate, asshole, that shit's gonna

772
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: come out. And if you are loving, kind, gentle, forgiving person,

773
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: that shit's gonna come out. And that's that's something that's

774
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: the reality of it that's hard for people to understand.

775
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: And also, you know, the type of uh, because this

776
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: is because you live the life that you live.

777
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: You loved me unconditionally.

778
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: I didn't have to perform, I didn't have to dance,

779
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: I didn't have to uh put on a mask for

780
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: you any of that. You was like, I love you

781
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: just like you are. It took me a while to

782
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: believe you. But once I believed you, I was like, oh,

783
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna give I'm going to give.

784
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: You the love that you gave me.

785
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: So you telling me I was beautiful when I didn't

786
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: believe it in myself. You you know, still thinking I'm

787
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: sexy after all these years, Like like that shit means

788
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: something to me. So in my mind, I don't think

789
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: twice about sitting in the hospital. I don't think twice

790
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: about being up all night long. I like like like

791
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm looking like, well, Bishess, what you're

792
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: supposed to do?

793
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: You know?

794
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: But but but to me, because that's the standards that

795
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: I have, you know, and sometimes I forget that, uh,

796
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: the the the love and the caring that we have

797
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: that me and you have for each other. A lot

798
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 2: of people want taught that a lot of people don't

799
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: know that a lot of people that trying fund today

800
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: abused right against them. A lot of people have fucked

801
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: up definitions of what love is. A lot of people

802
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: think sex it's equivalent to love, you know, a lot

803
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: of people think abuse is equivalent to love. Beat me

804
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: it is equivalent to love, right, Trauma bonding is to love.

805
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: So you, like you said, you have to learn and

806
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: untrain your mind and and it's a process. It really

807
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: is a process. But once you get to the point

808
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: where you find healthy love outside of your children, like

809
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: people gonna love their children, but you but people need

810
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: this love outside of They need it in some form

811
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: of Most people, unless you unless you're like asexual or

812
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: something like that, most people want and desire love outside

813
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: of their children and an intimate partner, a partner's relationship.

814
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: All right, So, like I said, that's the heavy stuff.

815
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: Try to, you know, get it out of the way

816
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: or whatever for the show. I know, uh, you know,

817
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: sometimes I worry about the show, like today, Where'm like,

818
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: we just had such a good time yesterday and then

819
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: today it's like, all right, guys, listen. But you know

820
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: that's honestly, that's what makes our show real, yes, And

821
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: that's why I think, you know, we we have been

822
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: successful with what we do. I think that's why, you know,

823
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: we had to stay in power, and it's you know,

824
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: it's because we didn't have to put on an act

825
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: that we didn't come on here and pretend we don't,

826
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, kind of fake it for everyone. We just

827
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: kind of do our things, do our thing. And I

828
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: think that's why we officially have made it ten years.

829
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 5: Ten year anniversary for the podcast.

830
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: Yes, Like I saw that alert alert on my phone today.

831
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: I saw, you know, you look on your Facebook memories

832
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, we started this show January six,

833
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: twenty ten, and I was like, damn, we did. People

834
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: spent a whole decade listening too, niggas what we do y'all.

835
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: We done came a long way from the music lyrics

836
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: in the background, us holding up, us holding over Mike

837
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: like a.

838
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: Snowball, I mean, like a camp file.

839
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

840
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: We uh, and Justin been with us that the whole

841
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: time too.

842
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: I know, it's just about just about man.

843
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 3: They've been dragging just and alone.

844
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: So I was, you know, I was very happy, man,

845
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: uh to celebrate this milestone because I mean, you know,

846
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: a lot of podcasts will never make it this far.

847
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: I know, uh, you know ship some some of my

848
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: favorite podcasts, some of our friends, somebody, you know, it's

849
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: like it's hard.

850
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: To do, and they like we we we we got

851
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: life and and and then life kicks your ass.

852
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: Nah.

853
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: You know, I understand I be sad and I be disappointed,

854
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: and I'll be wishing they come back.

855
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: But I understand people are tapping out. You know, it

856
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: is harder than you think.

857
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: You know, it is motherfucking work.

858
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: People. Our people don't stopped and started in our in

859
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: our time, we've under seen you know, people doing the

860
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: well we back episode every every.

861
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: Time, every episode, were back, We're back.

862
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: It's hard to do this, ship man. It's, as Aaron

863
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: Freeman said on my Facebook page, like it's a marathon,

864
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: not a sprint. Like yeah, you know, you gotta you

865
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: gotta be committed to doing what you do. And it

866
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: made me look up some stats for podcast because I

867
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I want to put this into

868
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: like perspective. The first thing was there's this thing called

869
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: pod fade, and that's the SENTI when a podcast stops

870
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: producing the show. The average number of episodes before a

871
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: podcast stops producing a show, it's seven, yeah, seven, We

872
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: have over two twenty episodes on our main feed.

873
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: That's just the main feed. It's not a clue of

874
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: the probably fift behind the paint.

875
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: Walk, right, and most of them being you know, over

876
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: an hour and some change. You know, like we've really

877
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: produced a lot of good content.

878
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: You can't tell us we don't work.

879
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: Also, like you know, with the bonus content and stuff,

880
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: we're hardworking. Like yesterday, after we did the regular show,

881
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: I sat in here with Justin for a couple hours

882
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: and we knocked out five movie reviews for our sport

883
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: movie review feed.

884
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: And you know, people love it.

885
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm seeing all the comment I was like, oh damn,

886
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: they love this. Yeah, we got some more coming up, y'all.

887
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the point being, like you know, I know

888
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: movie podcast that that's all they do. Yeah, that won't

889
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: be able to match that level of production, you know. So,

890
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: like you know, ten years in, I feel like we

891
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: could pat ourselves on the back a little bit today

892
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: because I mean, we really have surpassed so many people

893
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: and so many expectations to do what we do. So

894
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: this one was an article call Is from Pacific Content

895
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: dot Com. I analyzed ten million pot Cast episodes to

896
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: find the average length Okay, so the average overall length

897
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: of a podcast is forty three minutes and twenty four seconds, right, yeah,

898
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: now probably that's one a week. Yeah, so you know listen, right, uh.

899
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: And they just did like a computer analysis, so it

900
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: had like an eleven hour episode and one of them,

901
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: one of them was a one second episode. So but

902
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: it just kind of found the average, the average and

903
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: the longest episodes by genre are typically video games. Yeah,

904
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: the video game podcasts typically have the longest episodes, yeah,

905
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: cause you're.

906
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: Talking about video games and nerds and they can go

907
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: long winded or and or you actually maybe listen listen

908
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: to somebody play video game.

909
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, other games, the music, games, and hobbies, so people

910
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: love talking about their games. Uh. TV and film is

911
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: fifth hobbies, and then comedy at seven, number eight islam

912
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: right below comedy intersting. They also had went in and

913
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: said looking at the average popular show, like, what's that like?

914
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: So they just went by the Apple podcast US Top

915
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: four hundred October twenty fifth, twenty eighteen and said that

916
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: the longest episode of a Top four hundred show was

917
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: three hours and seven minutes for Dad Colin's Hardcore History,

918
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: and the shortest was a two second episode from Jordan B.

919
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: Peterson podcast. And so the average length of the top

920
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: four hundred shows fifty three minutes four seconds and the

921
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: median lift was forty seven minutes thirty seconds, so basically

922
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: a little under an hour.

923
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: That's why you have not your funny a lot of

924
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: dude bros. And then people tell you, a, you need

925
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: to be this, you need to be that, because that's

926
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: what's that still dom.

927
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think also they analyze these things and

928
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: then they just kind of go, this is the deal podcast.

929
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know that any of this shit matters.

930
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't to the person listening one hundred percent, because

931
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: everybody's listening for a different reason. So I brought I

932
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: looked at these other stats. One hundred and ninety seven

933
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: million Americans have heard about podcasts.

934
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

935
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is from October of last year. Okay,

936
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: so this is pretty current stuff. Thirty two percent of

937
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: Americans listening to podcasts at least once a more. That's

938
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: a lot higher than I thought it would be. To

939
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: be a frank, a third of Americans listen to podcasts

940
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: at least once a month. Yep. Uh. There are about

941
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty thousand active podcasts in twenty nineteen.

942
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

943
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: On the average, forty five percent of podcast listeners have

944
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: an annual household income of more than two hundred and

945
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: fifty dollars two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which is

946
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: what bananas. Yeah, like, people who listen to podcasts got

947
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: money like that, and that's why sponsors matter. Yeah, two

948
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: million podcasts are registered by Google, so not all of

949
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: those are active obviously, but they're registered. Fifty four percent

950
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: of podcast consumers say they think about buying advertised products,

951
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: which is one of the reasons advertising on podcasts so smart.

952
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: It's because unlike radio, where I think it's something like

953
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: less than one percent or something.

954
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 3: Like Yeah, because use commercial people flipp the channels.

955
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: It's either one percent. It's either less than one percent

956
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: or one to three percent. I can't remember the last

957
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: time I looked it up, but it was a very

958
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: low percentage of the people actually buy the stuff. Now.

959
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll think about buying but that's

960
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: a very low percentage for how many people buy shit.

961
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, infa they amount of money invested. Because I remember

962
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: Dex from Shada Dag was like, Hey, I've advertised all

963
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: types of ways, but once I started advertising on your show,

964
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, people buy it.

965
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: Like y'all have a very dedicated, loyal fan base.

966
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: Fifty four percent of podcast consummers. Okay. I said that

967
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: business is spent four hundred and ninety seven million dollars

968
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: on podcast advertising in twenty eighteen. Now most it's probably

969
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: for white podcasts, you know it. I would love to

970
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: be able to get to some of that money so

971
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: I could be a black capitalist, sir. Brands Brands that

972
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: advertise their products on podcasts enjoy average fourteen percent rise

973
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: in purchase in tent so that's that's amazing. Like I said,

974
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: when you consider radio is like literally like one percent

975
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: fifty one percent of Americans over the age of twelve

976
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: of listening to a podcast, that's a lot. Yeah.

977
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think with more people getting smartphones, like

978
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: now smartphones is the standard that I think that's another

979
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 2: reason why these numbers jump, because podcasts are more convenient.

980
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: Now you don't have to plug up your Apple to

981
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: turn your iPod.

982
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: And all the other shit.

983
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: There are more than twenty nine million podcast episodes available

984
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: at more than one hundred languages. Wow. Sixty one point

985
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: one million American families are fans of music podcasts, which

986
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, so whether that's talking about music or some

987
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: I know, some podcasts actually just play like a playlist

988
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: of music, right.

989
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

990
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: Seventy four percent of podcast users listen to podcasts who

991
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: learn something new. So when people write there and say

992
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: that I learned something from you guys, whether that's our

993
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: intent or not, they really do right, Like that might

994
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: be that, it doesn't mean they're not learning, and it's

995
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: definitely their intent when they turn it on. The fastest

996
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: growing countries in podcasts and is Chile, Argentina, Peru in

997
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: Mexico ooh mm hmm, a lot of brown people. Six

998
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: point five million adults in the UK listen to podcasts weekly.

999
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: Sixty seven percent of podcast audience I've made up with

1000
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: people from eighteen to forty four years old, So you

1001
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: know that's a fairly you know, young demographic that still

1002
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: has like Monday to spend, and you know, that's the

1003
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: same age that people come it for like streaming services,

1004
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: TV audiences all that stuff. Podcasts embody ten percent of

1005
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 1: all the content that millennials listen to. Fifty six percent

1006
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: of podcast listeners are male, while forty four percent are female.

1007
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: We don't really have a non bindar everything or anything

1008
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: on this one.

1009
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 2: And it's amazing how a lot of the stuff isn't targeted.

1010
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: They they're doing better about targeting shit towards women, but

1011
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: for a while they act like women just fucking didn't exist.

1012
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1013
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of these ads are Harrys raisers and

1014
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: shit like that.

1015
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: Right.

1016
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: Bebel was something where we had to be like, hey,

1017
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: women can use this too, now.

1018
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I worked, I've shaved with it before. It were good.

1019
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: Thirty four million women listening to podcasts in twenty eighteen.

1020
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 3: There's a lot of women.

1021
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: It's it's sixty eight percent more likely for a podcast

1022
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: listener to have a POS graduate degree.

1023
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 3: I mean most people are very highly educated.

1024
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, podcast is forty five percent more likely for a

1025
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: podcast listening to have a college degree. Looking at gender

1026
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: differences in podcasts and education, female podcasts users have a

1027
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: higher education and income than the overall US population, according

1028
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: to Podcast Analytics. So while more men listen and a

1029
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 1: lot of podcasts cater to men, women are the ones

1030
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: with the money and the education. Ain't that some shit? Yeah?

1031
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 3: But you act like the audience don't exist.

1032
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's still what's funny is that the decision

1033
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: makers mostly seen to chase after the male demographic because

1034
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: I think that's just tradition with radio and TV. So

1035
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: the decision makers in podcasting are quicker to give that,

1036
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: Like if I weren't running network, Okay, let me reach

1037
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: out to a man who's doing a podcast, even if

1038
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: what the man does is something that pisses women off.

1039
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, Okay, we want to be a

1040
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: network with Joe, Butden we want to you know, we

1041
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: gotta get Charlamagne, we gotta get t I. And women

1042
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: might be like fuck them, I don't like them, I

1043
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: don't want to. But that's the people who get the

1044
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: money behind them normally, you know, not obviously not all,

1045
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of women that they've gotten in

1046
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: the game too. But it's just funny how how male

1047
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: dominated a lot of the like quote unquote official podcasts

1048
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: are while women are the ones listening.

1049
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know podcasts that actually cater towards women,

1050
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: be like with god, damn, why all these women? Then

1051
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: they get sponsors that cater towards women, and everybody trying

1052
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: It's almost like almost like the thing where the Black

1053
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: movie come out and.

1054
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 3: They're like, oh shit, niggas like movie, Yes, women like

1055
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: the shit too, and women's purchasing power, Like, you know,

1056
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: we got purchasing power. It is ignorant to ignore this

1057
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: whole ass audience.

1058
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not like obviously I see our donations, I

1059
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: see our premium listeners and stuff like that, and I

1060
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: don't I've never looked to see, like exactly what the

1061
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: percentage is of men versus women. I've never done a

1062
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: survey or anything like that, but I would say that

1063
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: it's if not fifty to fifty, it's like slightly majority women,

1064
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: probably anecdotically off top of my head. And a lot

1065
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: of times people will say to us, well, how did

1066
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: you monetize? How do you uh, how do y'all make money?

1067
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: How are y'all able to do that? And I think

1068
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: a lot of this shit really is because of our

1069
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: natural predisposition to be like, we love women, we love

1070
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: black people, we love our people, and a lot of

1071
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: that to me, and it's not fake, and it's not

1072
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: us putting on airs. It's not It wasn't like a

1073
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: branding decision where we say we're gonna get all this money.

1074
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: Like literally I lost the job and Karen was like,

1075
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: we should try to make money. So it wasn't like

1076
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: by design, but I think by happenstance or whatever. A

1077
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: lot of how we were able to monetize is because

1078
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: of that type of inclusive quote unquote just kind of

1079
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: like more fair minded thing. Now, this doesn't mean that

1080
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: these shows that are very like women Bashing and shit

1081
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: and Black Women this and you know all that those

1082
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: shows make money too. They do, but if you look

1083
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: at a lot of times they make money off of

1084
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: like advertisers or someone coming in and quote unquote paying

1085
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: them to do what they do right, which kind of

1086
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: takes the listener almost out of the equation. But as

1087
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: a listener funded podcast, I know a large part of

1088
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: this is because you know, black women feel okay giving

1089
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 1: us money and supporting what we do, you know, because

1090
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: we're not just out here trying to like embarrass them.

1091
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: But at the same time we're not out here just pandering.

1092
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: And you know, at the same time, you know, the

1093
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: goal isn't to just be a pan during podcast. Is

1094
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: men ain't shit me and are trash? Women? Is everything?

1095
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: Please give us your money, Please give your money, please

1096
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: get you know, like we just keep it real. But

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00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: it's it's also I think not a coincidence that we're

1098
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: one of the few shows that's black that can monetize

1099
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: like this, agreed. Podcast fans use Spotify to listen to podcasts.

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00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: Yes, uh, Spotify. They are a game changer for people.

1101
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 3: And now me and jesters we said this years ago.

1102
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: These music apps are like, hey, let's get into podcasting,

1103
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 2: let's blend them. And Spotify is like open now where

1104
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: anybody can get on. And that changed it because now

1105
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: you allow people. When people go I got a podcast,

1106
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: you can go, hey, someone might actually was a podcast,

1107
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: and then you go you gotta Spotify, Yes it's this,

1108
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,479
Speaker 2: and they could just type in the title.

1109
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: I don't have to have a fucking separate app. I

1110
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: don't have to download nothing new.

1111
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: I don't have to take it because once you start

1112
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,479
Speaker 2: taking extra steps with a lot of people, they fucking

1113
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: tap out.

1114
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's also amazing because Spotify hasn't been in

1115
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: the game that long.

1116
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: No, it hasn't.

1117
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: So because most people gotta get their podcast normally on

1118
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: like a phone and stuff. And Apple was the first

1119
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: people that really put podcasts into like what they do

1120
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: into their phones and their iPods and stuff. It's interesting

1121
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: to see that, Like literally Spotify came in and just boom,

1122
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: now we're doing podcasts, their original stuff and just going

1123
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: and cherry picking the good shows from other places. And

1124
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: now I think they can just you can just either

1125
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: submit your feed and they'll take anybody. But yeah, fort

1126
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: is a huge amount for somebody that just hopped into

1127
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: the thing. And plus Spotify is the advantage of being

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Speaker 1: on Android and right, you know, all the other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Right, And also the thing, particularly with the Apple, they

1130
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: still keep that shit separate, which is fucking dumb. Combine that,

1131
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 3: m hm.

1132
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: Let's see thirty nine percent of smart speaker owners listening

1133
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: to podcasts at least once a week. I know, I do.

1134
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: Six percent of podcast shows are downloaded from Apple. The

1135
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: average podcast listen to subscribe a seven different shows weekly.

1136
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 3: I've passed that out. Well, I'm way above a too.

1137
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: It's stupid, right, But.

1138
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that makes sense because you a variety of

1139
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: taste and all that stuff.

1140
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: Fifty two percent of podcast subscribers listening to entire episodes,

1141
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: which is much higher than I thought it would be. Uh,

1142
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: fifty eight percent of podcast consumers listening between seventy six

1143
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: to one hundred percent of all the podcasts downloaded on

1144
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: their devices. I will never be in that percentage. I

1145
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: have somebody downloaded. I'll never get to amorrow. I agreed

1146
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: around twenty six percent of podcast listening to speed up

1147
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: podcasts while listening. Yeah.

1148
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: I know some people say when they listen to the

1149
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: show and come in live, they like, wow, I'm so

1150
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: used to hearing this like speed.

1151
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 3: I just listened to the normal speed. I've never sped up,

1152
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 3: a slow down anything like that.

1153
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that means somebody out there is listen to

1154
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: us right now, like we are the chipmunks. Uh chip

1155
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: em n k.

1156
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: Yes, Alvin simon.

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01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: Theater door, dud, dude, You're welcome out there personally listening

1158
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: to us on three time speed or whatever. Yeah. Podcast

1159
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: listeners spend an average of six hours and thirty seven

1160
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: minutes listen to podcasts every week. Podcast consumers before the

1161
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: listening to podcasts at home. I would think most people

1162
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: will probably be listening to them commuting and stuff. But

1163
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: I listen to them everywhere. Call them in the car,

1164
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: at the gym. More than half of Americans do chores

1165
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: while listening to podcasts. Yeah, cleaning up, Welcome to the fold. Okay,

1166
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm in hive. I'm in the chore hive. Okay. Podcast

1167
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: consumers are active on at least one social media channel,

1168
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: which is a great way for promotions. While we tell

1169
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: people if you're tweeting about the show, use TVGWT, Come

1170
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram, come be on our Facebook page,

1171
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: like we love that stuff more than half of us.

1172
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: Podcast let's just pay attention to the ads, which is

1173
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: much higher than radio. Fifty four percent of podcast consumers

1174
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: say that think about buying an avatar the product. I

1175
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: think I already said that one. What was the other one?

1176
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: That there was another one I thought was interesting? I

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01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: think it's by race, but it might be down there.

1178
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: Let's see. Fifty billion episodes have been streamed of downloaded

1179
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: from Apple. Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday the best days of

1180
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: release a podcast. Yo, that is so true because when

1181
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: we do the show, I can watch our feedback on

1182
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: our hashtag and like we do, you know, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,

1183
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: and then you'll see like a boom boom boom feedback, feedback, feedback,

1184
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: but you get towards the end of the week. I

1185
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: don't people want to get off work. They ain't got

1186
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: time to be on Twitter and procrastinating all week.

1187
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't know it gonna get you done.

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01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: Get a lot less Thursday, Friday, Saturday. You know, hashtag

1189
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: like yo, I'm listening to the show. Uh so that

1190
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: makes total sense. Let's see Amazon Prime podcast has one

1191
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million active users. What Amazon Prime got?

1192
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: I didn't know that?

1193
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: What all right? Listatistics from June twenty nineteen. I ain't

1194
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: even know Amazon prom had a podcast. Surveyed Americans say

1195
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: podcasts are too long because you know why Americans work

1196
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: too fucking much. We don't have time. And that's why

1197
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: I always say, don't make your show for everybody. Because

1198
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: the thing that I always find interesting when people get

1199
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: podcasts and advice, they always tell you make it short.

1200
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: They always tell you not too you know, don't go

1201
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: too long, not too often, not this. And I'm like, dog,

1202
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: if the person listening to you is like upset that

1203
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: your show is too long, they ain't the one for you.

1204
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 3: Nope, they're not your tired of the audience.

1205
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: They really ain't fucking with you anyway.

1206
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the thing is as a podcast listener, they

1207
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: are short podcasters that are born as fuck, and then

1208
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: they are long podcasts that are entertaining you.

1209
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: Normally, it's hard to have both. You know, most people

1210
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: don't do both.

1211
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 2: So a lot of times people don't want to admit

1212
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't like listening because you're not entertaining.

1213
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: Dog. I've had Like, honestly, if I roll my eyes

1214
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: at your podcast, lint, I'm it's because I already don't

1215
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: really fuck with you. And that's you know, and I

1216
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: mean that's just an honest thing. The people. You know,

1217
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm not naming those names, but you know, I think

1218
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: and it's same thing for us. If people look at

1219
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: us and go, oh two hours, yeah, dog, they don't

1220
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: really fuck with us, right, you know, because you know what,

1221
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: when I listen to The Morning Jones, I never once

1222
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: was like three hours of this ship.

1223
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: No.

1224
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: I love the Morning Jones to better. Yeah, I was

1225
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: listening to the commercials and ship. You know, when you know,

1226
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: when Dan Levatar show is on and he's gonna be

1227
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: on there for three hours, four hours out of the

1228
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: middle of the day, people look forward to that time

1229
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: and they don't you know, and radios, you know, to

1230
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: me way worse than podcast because you got throwing all

1231
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: this product placement, advertising, and you can't make everything fucking fun,

1232
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, So I me personally, I'm like, yeah, dog,

1233
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: if they fuck with us, they gonna fuck with us.

1234
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be as long as it needs to be,

1235
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah.

1236
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: And also it's one of those things where different people's

1237
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 2: lifestyle demands different types of podcasts for growth and for change.

1238
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: People evolve, and you have some people who, like you say,

1239
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 3: I have three and four hour will commute back and

1240
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: forth to work, so they love, Hey, I'm sitting the traffic.

1241
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 3: I canna listen.

1242
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't have to have fourteen episodes cued up because

1243
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: every ten minutes, y'all finished.

1244
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: And I binged podcast before I have to. They have

1245
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: like twenty thirty minute episodes. I just been binge right

1246
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: through them because I you know, I have the time,

1247
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: and if I like it, I want it all right now,

1248
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: you know. So you know we made our show. It

1249
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: was you know, we didn't set out with this as

1250
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: a goal. I remember the first episode is us say

1251
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: how short it was gonna be?

1252
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 3: Twenty minutes?

1253
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 1: It was how short it was gonna be we weren't

1254
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: gonna talk about politics.

1255
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: We were staying with them all that shit. Yeah, we

1256
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: were just gonna have fun.

1257
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: As you know is you know, and look at what

1258
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: the show became because you don't know you know. Another

1259
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: thing I would point out, man, be consistent. You know,

1260
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: pick that thing you can do it when you you know,

1261
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: pick that that thing that you can stick to. That's

1262
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: really the hardest part of podcasting is why most people

1263
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: are not gonna make it. It's because being dedicated enough

1264
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: to say, I, no matter how I feel, no matter

1265
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: what's going on.

1266
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: I canceled.

1267
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: We've canceled family engagement supportments.

1268
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: People been like no, no, no, no, I got some

1269
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 3: schedule in that time. We like, this is time got

1270
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:34,479
Speaker 3: to be free.

1271
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I think that was a huge fucking

1272
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: part for us to be like, yo, we're going to

1273
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: commit to doing this and if we have to change

1274
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: our lives around to make this happen, then we're gonna

1275
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: do that thing. Another thing people forget about is commute time.

1276
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: A lot of people have long ass commutes and fucked

1277
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: up traffic, and you can't listen as much as you know,

1278
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: you can only listen to an album. So many times before.

1279
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just need some brain food to get your

1280
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: mind off of a sudden Even if you're listening to

1281
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: us arguing along with us, even if you're listening to

1282
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: Usha laughing or crying or whatever, you're just not thinking

1283
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: about that mundane shit that you're doing on the way

1284
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: to work or at your job or whatever. And I

1285
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: think a lot of people don't talk about that when

1286
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: they talk about podcasting and they talk about what it

1287
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: can be. It can be whatever you imagine. You know,

1288
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: you want to do an interview show, you can do that.

1289
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: You want to do improv, you want to do skitch,

1290
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: you want to make shit up every week, whatever you want,

1291
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,560
Speaker 1: whatever topic. And it's really no vomb or reason to

1292
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: what truly takes off, you know, unless, of course, you know,

1293
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 1: you can take some of the variants out of it

1294
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,919
Speaker 1: by having these networks. You know, so like if BuzzFeed

1295
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: is doing your show, you know, probably less likely that

1296
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: you'll get not get a lot of listeners. They can

1297
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: put a little bit more about you know, Spotify is

1298
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: doing your podcast, chances are you're gonna get the best

1299
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: leg four you can get, agreed, But you know, and

1300
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: the other part, I mean, I forgot where I got

1301
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 1: this statistic. But black people only make up fourteen percent

1302
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: of podcast listeners and white people make up like fifty

1303
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: three or something like some high percentage, like sixty three

1304
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: percent or something like that. So like we're fighting a

1305
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: uphill battle to do this black ass show, Like we

1306
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: had to get you know, a higher percent of up

1307
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: fourteen percent. That was like, Yo, we're gonna we're gonna

1308
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: fuck with you the long way and we're gonna download

1309
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: your stuff. So before we get into the rest of

1310
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: the show, I just want to take the time to

1311
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: say thank you ten years into the show. You know,

1312
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: thank thank you as a partner, you know, thank you

1313
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: as a co host, you know, thank you obviously as

1314
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 1: my wife, my business partner, all that stuff. Because I remember,

1315
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, being like, I want to do this, think

1316
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: this idea. I think it would be really cool, and

1317
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: you know, uh, at the same time, I didn't want

1318
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: to do it alone. You know, shit, I never recorded

1319
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: old podcast alone till last year, so you know, so

1320
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it alone and I didn't

1321
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: have anyone else in the world I wanted to do

1322
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: it with, but you, and I remember you being like,

1323
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, we can call it.

1324
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 3: I'd be a producer and I work in the background.

1325
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: Don't the cue cards? Don't call it Ron and carrin

1326
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: What if I, you know, quit, What if I'm not good?

1327
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: What if I'm and you?

1328
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 3: What if I quit?

1329
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: I did take you that you did tell me that

1330
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: you want to if I it's okay if I want

1331
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: to change people and do a different co hosts, which I.

1332
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 3: Was like, I could fade into the background.

1333
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't gonna have some other person in our

1334
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: house every week. But it's it was just kind of uh,

1335
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: it really it really did work out. Like that's one

1336
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: time that I'm the one that had the belief before

1337
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: it was a thing you did.

1338
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 3: And it was the fact that I didn't have believe.

1339
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know it was no rules, no regulations, no role.

1340
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 1: No we didn't even use our real names.

1341
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: Oh we didn't.

1342
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: If you would have said no, we wouldn't have had

1343
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: a podcast like this journey that I'm so proud of that.

1344
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at these pictures and seeing all

1345
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: over the place, you know, all this stuff that we've

1346
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: done out because today when I was posting it on

1347
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: social media, I was like, oh, let me go find

1348
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 1: some pictures. Top posted this and it's you know, it's

1349
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: all these people that have made our lives so special.

1350
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember all the pics like the oh, y'all

1351
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 2: just don't know the over the ten years, just seeing

1352
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 2: this morph and change and grow into something we never

1353
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 2: beyond our wildest imagination. We went from how the fuck

1354
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 2: do you put this shit on it tunes? To we're

1355
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 2: doing a live show, nigga, We don't come a long

1356
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: way like the fleming cigarettes.

1357
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 3: The fuck is this?

1358
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: Like?

1359
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 2: We have literally walked and shocked and surprised and you know,

1360
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 2: people wanting and desiring.

1361
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 3: To take pictures with us. I think the.

1362
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: First time we went to Awesome Call was the first

1363
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 2: time we actually got to see our audience because I'm

1364
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: not trying funny. We knew y'all were out there, but

1365
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 2: in our minds, y'all were statistics, not trying funny.

1366
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 3: Like we knew people wrote in we okay, we know

1367
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 3: that real people.

1368
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 2: But it's difference between that and you actually people actually

1369
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: recognized you. Because I think the thing for me was

1370
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: when we did Awesome Call and christen them for the

1371
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: first time. I was walking and somebody said my name,

1372
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: and I tuned around. All of a sudden, all these

1373
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: people just started waving at me. I was like, hey,

1374
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: Like I didn't really know how to take.

1375
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: It because I was like, oh, Dan, come to see

1376
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: me and look shout out the fan con because even

1377
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 1: those statistics online and those numbers aren't the same as

1378
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: somebody coming out to see you, right, you know, it's

1379
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: easy to be you know, we had to walk a

1380
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 1: lot on faith with this ship where it's like, I

1381
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: hope we can do this thing, like you know, we

1382
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: like awesome Con was our first like oh my god,

1383
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: these people are they really actually do funk with us.

1384
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: It's not just you know, people say a lot of

1385
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: shit on the internet, man, you can't trust it. It's

1386
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: you know, oh man, if y'all did this, I would

1387
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: do you know if you made this shirt out by

1388
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, here's the shirt. Oh they did it, Okay, Yeah,

1389
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: if y'all set up a PayPal, we'll give y'all money. Okay,

1390
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: we'll see you know. That's my attitude. But then people

1391
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: have been proving me wrong left and right my whole

1392
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: the whole ten years. And so when you know we

1393
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: were gonna do Negro Con with was forty acres and

1394
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 1: My Sanity Report Sanity Check Podcast, Chris and Brennan and

1395
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: Deirdre and Twin and Mike and well we were gonna

1396
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: do that. I remember being like, I mean, we're gonna

1397
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: try our best to sell out this deceason here, and

1398
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: I hope that we can do it. And we sold

1399
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: it out and so fast, it was like what the fuck? Yeah,

1400
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: so fast.

1401
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: It was like I didn't even get a chance to

1402
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 2: get the tickets. I think we announced it that other

1403
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: people hadn't had a chance to announce it them. Bitch

1404
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: was already sold out.

1405
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. We was looking at each other in the house

1406
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: like are you seeing you know, like Chris's email and

1407
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: us like yeah, so it's only like ten tickets left

1408
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 1: and we're like we haven't even really got to announce

1409
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: the full thing, you know, and.

1410
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 3: To get extra seat and everything we.

1411
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: Did our live show, man like people don't know, man,

1412
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: Like we paid for all that shit up front, you know,

1413
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: we didn't really necessary. I mean, we made a profit

1414
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: off of it, but we didn't know, you know what

1415
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean. And that shit was expensive, Like it wasn't

1416
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: I mean expensive for me. I don't know, maybe balling

1417
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: ass motherfuckers are like that ain't shit, you know, I'm

1418
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: sure you know, Like, look, it's a bunch of podcasts

1419
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: that do like tours and they got you know, they

1420
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: got the money to invest up front and be like

1421
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: boom boom boom.

1422
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 3: And I was like, I was looking like, nigga, this

1423
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 3: is real money. Like to me, I was like, Nigga,

1424
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 3: this is some real z roads.

1425
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, man, I hold, people buy these tickets too.

1426
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 1: And it didn't. It wasn't just that people the tickets.

1427
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't just that people came from like all over.

1428
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: The globe, which was all over the glow my nigga.

1429
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 1: Which was already humbly in itself right, But the people

1430
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: that really got to me were the ones who bought

1431
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: tickets who couldn't make it to give the other people.

1432
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that really touched my heart. They was like,

1433
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 2: I know I can't make it, but somebody might can

1434
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 2: take the trip.

1435
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 3: And for me, I'm like, you the love that our

1436
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 3: fans have for other fans.

1437
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: Like y'all, y'all, I'm sorry, y'all, y'all just don't know

1438
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: how much that meant to us.

1439
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 3: When people was like here's ten tickets, here's twenty two.

1440
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 3: I can't make it. I bought a premium ticket, you know,

1441
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 3: to see y'all. I can't make it. And the person

1442
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 3: they end up seeing meeting each other.

1443
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I think I was working to the

1444
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: last second, like while we're doing show prep, while we're backstage,

1445
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: while we're meeting people, and shit, I'm on my phone

1446
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,879
Speaker 1: also checking emails and sending like, Okay, here's your PDF

1447
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: for your ticket to this person. Like I was like,

1448
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: and I didn't mind doing that. You know, I'm sure

1449
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: like a bigger podcast they would have Like a person

1450
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: that does they probably woudn't even did that. Shit, they

1451
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: were like Nigga by a take it or don't. But

1452
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: but like I was happy to do that to facilitate that.

1453
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: And that's the relationship we've had with our fans. And uh,

1454
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: it's humbling, but it's also fulfilling, Yes, And it's like

1455
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: affirming feeling something that I've never had from any job. Uh,

1456
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: something that I couldn't have imagined. Like I just I

1457
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: remember working in the Cubic feeling like, you know, like

1458
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: this job doesn't appreciate me. And and uh, like you

1459
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: don't appreciate yourself, and so you know, thankful ten years

1460
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: in yeah, yeah, my mind, y'all have blown my mind, right, and.

1461
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 3: It's just.

1462
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm stealing ah at our audience and the love and

1463
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 2: the support that they have, and y'all shower us with

1464
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: so much love that I'm gonna tell you right now.

1465
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 3: It's hard to see the hate. It's it's like we're

1466
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 3: raining with so much love.

1467
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: We're almost blinded by y'all love that y'all actually constantly

1468
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 2: pour upon us by giving five star reviews, giving donations,

1469
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: going premium, buying shirts, supporting the sponsors, like when we

1470
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: see y'all hashtag because we know, not trying to funny,

1471
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: everybody can't put five on them. What you can do

1472
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 2: is use the hell out of your social media, and

1473
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 2: y'all use.

1474
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: It or give us a five star reviews, right, and

1475
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: then you know, even like like the Christmas cards, the

1476
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: holiday cards, you know, like this is like shit that

1477
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: you know, I know other shows aren't doing or probably

1478
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: didn't think about it, and man, everything it's stupid, I

1479
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's I've been so grateful, you know,

1480
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: because it didn't have to be this way. I could

1481
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: still be working in some fucking Cubico being like I

1482
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: fucking hate it here and not getting to be myself

1483
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: every day and pushing myself back and holding myself back,

1484
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, and letting that leak out into the rest

1485
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: of my life, you know. And so to be able

1486
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: to like be proud of what we did, what we've accomplished,

1487
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, ten years is such a fucking milestone. Like,

1488
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, marriages don't last ten years. Like fucking there's

1489
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: jobs don't last ten years. There's so much shit that

1490
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: doesn't do ten years. And we've worked so hard and

1491
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: we put in this, you know, we put in the

1492
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: sweat equity into this, and to have that matched, like

1493
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: to put your voice out into the universe and have

1494
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: people say not only.

1495
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 3: Do I hear you, but I give a fuck right

1496
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: and and and to let people know we see you.

1497
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 2: And also I think something else over the ten years

1498
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 2: that really how I said, touch my heart is when

1499
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 2: we had went the same thing awesome CONCLXT. I said,

1500
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: that was the first interaction where we actually seen the

1501
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 2: audience and put faces and names. When we would talk

1502
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: to people and they would tell us the stories and

1503
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 2: how you've changed the way I loved my wife. You've

1504
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 2: changed the way I view this. You've changed how I

1505
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: see L G B t Q. Like, like, y'all, I

1506
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: hope y'all know if that wasn't the goal, but.

1507
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: It's just you know.

1508
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 2: And it was hilarious though, because people were telling us this,

1509
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: and people we were taking pictures, so it's like you're

1510
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 2: crying and smiling and snapping pictures all at the same time, and.

1511
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 3: Uh and and and and it was hilarious. It was like,

1512
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 3: for the first time ever, I I didn't know how

1513
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 3: to respond. And uh.

1514
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: I think the first thing that that kind of took

1515
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 2: me was like, oh my gosh, what's happening here? Was

1516
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 2: after we did awesome times, we went down and one.

1517
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 3: Person came and they you know, they they talked to us.

1518
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 3: Then they was like you charged. I was like, who

1519
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 3: the fuck charges the pictures? Like like their acces us

1520
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 3: were we charging? They was like, I wanna take a picture?

1521
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 3: But you also it was like yeah sure.

1522
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 2: And when we went outside, I think you went outside

1523
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 2: and it was almost like people in front of us

1524
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 2: all you.

1525
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 3: All types of directions and shit like that.

1526
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: So the love is I.

1527
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 3: Cannot express the gratitude and the thankfulness.

1528
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also got to give credit to Keith

1529
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: and the Girl, yes, because uh, without that show ain't

1530
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 1: no show for us. So like we had, you know,

1531
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: and knew all of our friends that we started with

1532
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: that we became friends with Nigga still wuck with them today. Yeah,

1533
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: and even the ones we lost along the way, right,

1534
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: you know, like it's you know some people, you know, yeah,

1535
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: whether the relationship fell apart, whether they moved on, some

1536
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: people have passed away, yes, like we you know, there's

1537
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: all these wonderful people that even if they were just

1538
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 1: a little part of the journey, no matter how it ended,

1539
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for them. The lessons that I've learned over

1540
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 1: these years from even the bad relationships, even the ones

1541
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: that went wrong, I learned I got something from it

1542
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of matter of fact, I'll

1543
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: just get into this article after this, but you know,

1544
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the value that we have

1545
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: now in friendships and shit is like what can you

1546
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: do for me? Is so transactional, and uh there's to

1547
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: me that's not the value of a friendship or relationship.

1548
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 1: What you take from it isn't necessarily about literally taking

1549
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: something from it. And I you know, I had to

1550
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: learn the hard way that not everybody sees it that way.

1551
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: You know, some people really are here for Look, I'm

1552
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 1: cool with you because I think I can get it,

1553
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, something from your audience. I can get something

1554
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: from you. I can, you know, and that sucks. It's

1555
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: part of business.

1556
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1557
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: Not everyone's gonna be friends. But I'm now mature enough

1558
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: and old enough and experienced enough to recognize it and

1559
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: be like, this is when I'm willing to play this game.

1560
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: And this is when I'm not nothing wrong with that game.

1561
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: You know, there's networking, there's all that stuff. It's fine,

1562
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: but it's not you know, my personal vibe is not

1563
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: I prefer not to do that. But as far as

1564
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: you know, like I feel like it's artificial. But even

1565
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: in the relationships where okay, this bridge has burned, this

1566
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: person is you know, they was on us, now they

1567
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: hate us, I still learned something from it, and I

1568
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: still got to take something away from it. And I

1569
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: hope that we gave examples to people on how to

1570
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: handle that shit. As we learn how to handle that ship.

1571
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: There was a time when motherfucker pissed me off. I'll

1572
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: be ready to be on this motherfucker and Mike like,

1573
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: let me tell you about Yeah, And probably in the

1574
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: last two three years, you know, just going through things,

1575
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, I've learned to keep it off the mic

1576
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: or you know, just be like, well, I'm not gonna

1577
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: go out here and try to ruin this person, or

1578
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be vindictive. And also I figured out

1579
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: how to get to the truth of the matter, which

1580
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: is in a lot of cases, you're hurt. I'm hurt, right,

1581
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: And so you know, I had to learn the truth.

1582
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: I had to learn the process and be like, wait,

1583
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 1: hold up, why am I so mad? Why do I

1584
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 1: care that this person I don't know stole the show

1585
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: format and now they're not giving us credit? Oh, because

1586
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm insecure about my own worth and my own value.

1587
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: Like so no one can take they could take the name.

1588
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: They can't be us. But but there was a time

1589
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: when that would have pissed me off, you know, and

1590
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: I think it's now we're kind of veterans. I look

1591
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: at other people going through it and I'm like you too,

1592
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, they'll come either, they'll come around to

1593
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: seeing that this is actually about their own value. It's

1594
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: actually not about that person that's talking shit about you know,

1595
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: there was a time where people talk about on the podcast.

1596
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: We played the podcast on our podcast and be like,

1597
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: fuck this motherfucker, let me tell you why they're wrong

1598
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: and this bullshit. Now, I remember, I was in a

1599
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: much better place when I someone hit me up specifically

1600
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: tell me they were gonna talk shit about us on

1601
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: their podcast, and I never even heard the show. To

1602
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: this day, I have not heard that show because I

1603
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: just didn't give a fuck, right, I was like, Okay, well,

1604
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: you know how I feel. I know how you feel.

1605
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: Like honestly, you can go in there and cuss me

1606
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: out to the gods, it ain't gonna matter, you know,

1607
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna return the favor. The best thing

1608
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: I can do is concentrate on what I can control

1609
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,719
Speaker 1: and concentrate on the people who matter and you don't matter.

1610
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: And that was a big thing for me, you know,

1611
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: to see like people like turn over the years, like

1612
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: oh you know that love bombing type shit, you know,

1613
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: to be in to go through stuff you have to

1614
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: deal we never dealt with that before regular life, you know,

1615
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,879
Speaker 1: to deal with liars, to deal with you know, scammers

1616
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 1: and shiit that you never fucking you don't. There's no

1617
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: blueprint for this ship. So through all of that stuff,

1618
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: consistently we have been held down by a core group

1619
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: of people that fuck with us for forever. Whether it's

1620
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 1: on the comedy, They've allowed us to grow. This episode

1621
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: ain't been funny. No, I'm not really worried about whether

1622
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: or not people going to enjoy this episode because we've

1623
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: been allowed to not be funny all the time. We've

1624
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: been allowed to not to say some of this ship

1625
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: isn't a joke to us. We've been allowed to have

1626
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: real lives and and and and and we've been rewarded

1627
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: for sharing and being more and more real with people.

1628
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: You know, this isn't roddy, miss prim and say that again.

1629
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: It's rotting. You know, my fucking government name is out

1630
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: there for the world to know what I do. I

1631
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 1: don't know if I can get a regular job without

1632
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,440
Speaker 1: them niggas looking at my podcast.

1633
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 3: Again, they go, you it is definitely popping up.

1634
01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: Burn is so black, you know, I don't know what

1635
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: these white people gonna think. But yeah, So anyway, I

1636
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,799
Speaker 1: just want to say I'm thankful. That's what ten years

1637
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 1: means to I'm grateful. I'm thankful to you, I'm thankful

1638
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: to Justin, Yes, thankful, the will you know, thankful Chris

1639
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: and Brandon and yes, Deirdre and Mike and like that's

1640
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: so ni, there's so many.

1641
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 3: I mean, we can go down to motherfucking list.

1642
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: I will never be able to say everybody. You know,

1643
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: if you fucked with us for a little bit and

1644
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: you moved on and somehow this reaches you throughout the

1645
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: universe and you go back one day and hear this episode,

1646
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: thank you too, you know what I mean? Like boss,

1647
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, BOSSI the people we've met, man that just

1648
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: like came to town and hey, I would like to

1649
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: y'all want to like go to dinner? Got you know,

1650
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 1: like I would just like to meet y'all. And know,

1651
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: we haven't been able to say yes to everybody. Obviously,

1652
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: we you know, we have lives and ship. But we've

1653
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 1: been able to meet a lot of people, more than

1654
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: I would have a teen years ago. I would have

1655
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 1: said zero, no, nigga, I don't know you get out

1656
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: my phone.

1657
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: Rod Jiggers came along way because he was like everything

1658
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 2: was no, nope, nope, nope.

1659
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 3: Block block block block block block block.

1660
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, this podcast has helped me grow,

1661
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: and it has helped me be more accepting on myself.

1662
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: It's helped me see other point people point of view.

1663
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 1: It's helped me feel validated in my thinking process and

1664
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: worth and uh, you know, and it's not like we

1665
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: were chosen for this. It's not like someone came and

1666
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: blessed us. We just took it upon ourselves and people

1667
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: have been inspired by us. We've watched people that you know,

1668
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: when they were coming up, you know, we were just like,

1669
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 1: oh I like this person, and now we're like, damn,

1670
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: this motherfucker is on TV, this person is writing for show,

1671
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: this person is doing a comedy special. You know, like

1672
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: all of that stuff is just been cool. Like I've

1673
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: become friends with people that I looked up to. I've

1674
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, I've become peers with people that I looked

1675
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: up to. You know, we we've become you know, our

1676
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: own brand in a way.

1677
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a trick.

1678
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 2: The reality of that so and and how people view

1679
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 2: you and how you yourself it don't always match up

1680
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: like that.

1681
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 3: That was something I had to wrap my mind around.

1682
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, So you know, it's just been very a

1683
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: very positive affirmat experience. So thank y'all for ten years.

1684
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank everybody listening currently, all the former listeners,

1685
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: all the future listeners. Real talk, man, That's that's what

1686
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: really made it. That's what's made it worth it. Man.

1687
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: So all right, I wasn't gonna get in this article.

1688
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: I guess I can do it.

1689
01:28:58,520 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1690
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: We're treating friendships like transactions and it's running relationships, agreed. Yeah,

1691
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: so you know, obviously we can quantify all the shit

1692
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: now with the friends and like literally the number of friends.

1693
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: And it's always weird because on my Facebook, I think

1694
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,520
Speaker 1: I have two thousand friends.

1695
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 2: On my.

1696
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 1: Twitter thousands and change. Yeah, my Twitter may have three

1697
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: thirty thousand followers or something like that. Hey man, these

1698
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: motherfuckers ain't my friends and they not and they're not

1699
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 1: my followers either. I'm not a cult leader. Like those

1700
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: words make imply something that's just not true. And it's okay,

1701
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: like it's not a now we enemies, but it's this

1702
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: thing that I think has made people feel so fucking

1703
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: like important, but also it's so misleading. Yep.

1704
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: That's why motherfuckers be fucking each other up on Facebook

1705
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 3: and shit.

1706
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're not really friends, right, And when something

1707
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: bad happens to you and a person don't give a fuck,

1708
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: it makes sense. They're not your actual friend. They just

1709
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: tuned in observe your life form afar because maybe they

1710
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 1: like a joke you said, maybe they an opinion you

1711
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: had they agreed with. But you know that's not necessarily

1712
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 1: a friend. Nope, they don't gidding about you burning your

1713
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: own house down. Yeah, it was something I had to,

1714
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, once again realize over the course of these

1715
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: ten years, being like, oh wait, some of y'all are

1716
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 1: here for not for me, really, you know, like if

1717
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: someone said I hate Ray, he's a bitch, you be

1718
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: over there liking it on their page just as much

1719
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: as you come over to my page and be like, oh,

1720
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 1: you know, a haha, this is funny. Like I'm a

1721
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: consumable now, right.

1722
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 2: And it's one of those things that once the quote

1723
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 2: unquote you stop entertaining, the just fell off.

1724
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is something I've been thinking about for

1725
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: a while. I didn't necessarily have a word to quantify,

1726
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 1: but I think this article goes into it, and I

1727
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: can expound upon it. We can quantify everything now from

1728
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 1: our steps on fit big to our literary consumption on

1729
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: good Reads. As a result, we feel we must make

1730
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: everything and everyone count for something. That's a phenomenon which

1731
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: is both distressing and depressing as it flies to friendship.

1732
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: Scan the internet and you'll see no end of posts

1733
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: advising you to toss toxic friends and surround yourself with

1734
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: people who make you feel good instead. The current cultural

1735
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 1: discourse suggests that friends are people who we use to

1736
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 1: improve ourselves and get rid of when the going gets tough,

1737
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 1: or if we're not or if we're not having enough fun.

1738
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: One buzz Feed article goes so far as to suggests

1739
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: forgetting a birthday is a dump worthy offense, while the

1740
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: cous of polity and article recommends tossing friends who binge

1741
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: drink on a Saturday night. Yes, I do think we

1742
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: are so superficial with how disposable people are now. And

1743
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: maybe it's been that way forever, you know, I'm sure

1744
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: it was, but now we can just quantify it, and

1745
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: I think that is a bad thing. I do think that.

1746
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: You know, like one of the common posts you see

1747
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: online and it's always someone really crying out for help,

1748
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: but you know they want the attention, but there's a

1749
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: lot of work you have to do in a relationship, sir,

1750
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 1: and true relationships are just different than the shit that

1751
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: happens online sometimes. And so you'll see.

1752
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna be politically correct in your own personal life.

1753
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 1: Not just politically correct. I'm talking about something else. I'm

1754
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: talking about like when someone makes a post like, uh,

1755
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 1: when you call somebody and they don't call you back,

1756
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: they really show you who the real friends is or

1757
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 1: something like that. And I'm always like, this is a

1758
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 1: cry for help. It's trying to guilt somebody who's reading this,

1759
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: and it's going, am I a real friend? Am I

1760
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 1: really your friend? And it's trying to make them feel

1761
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: bad about it? Right, But here's the truth. Maybe I'm

1762
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 1: not your fucking friend.

1763
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:36,400
Speaker 3: Hello.

1764
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: Maybe friendships aren't something that you fucking you know, balancing

1765
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: equation to and you check mark off you know, every

1766
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: and this is and I know that this is you

1767
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 1: have to learn people. I know how I am. I

1768
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: don't know how you are, you know. I honestly it's

1769
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: a big turn off for me when I find people

1770
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: do that like friendship taliing.

1771
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 3: Shit, I might keep some scores and shit, the fuck

1772
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 3: is this?

1773
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I will stay the fuck away from you.

1774
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 3: Dog.

1775
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 1: I will stay away from you because I'm not one

1776
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 1: of them people. I'm a person where if I think,

1777
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 1: if you're my friend and we don't talk for a

1778
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 1: full calendar year and you call me after that year

1779
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 1: up and say hey, Rod, I still take off from

1780
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: we were friends last time we talked, we are friends now.

1781
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 3: I'd always and I got people like that. I have

1782
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 3: got people I talk to maybe every four to five years.

1783
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 3: But when we talk, we talk, Hey girl, how you

1784
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 3: doing okay? How your kids doing? Click, and we and

1785
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,759
Speaker 3: we are cool until we see each other again.

1786
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: And I understand that's a different love language than other people.

1787
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to invalidate their love language. What I'm

1788
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: saying is the lack of understanding to the fact that

1789
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 1: we don't all have to connect on that level. We're

1790
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: not all gonna have these grand friendships. You know, I

1791
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: look at my Facebook. Hey, I don't have two thousand friends.

1792
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I have like five or ten. Maybe that's okay, you know,

1793
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: it's something in them, something happened to me. That's five

1794
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 1: or ten people. I'm like, they would probably show up

1795
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: or at least call check on he or something they

1796
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: know something wrong. Yeah, there's a lot of people that

1797
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: aren't that way, and I'm not holding it against them,

1798
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: But when you see like people expect this shit out

1799
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 1: of people, as if these other folks don't have fucking lives. Man, right, Like,

1800
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 1: why aren't you dropping everything and reading my passive regressive Facebook?

1801
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: That isn't stopping and coming over my house? It's like,

1802
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: that's not what the fuck happened.

1803
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 3: We're not twelve. I think a lot of people treat

1804
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 3: friendships like they did when they was in school. We're

1805
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 3: best friends.

1806
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: We got to go together, walk together, talk together, we

1807
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 2: got to beat up each other's asses all the time.

1808
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 3: And if you don't treat me like that, you're not

1809
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,719
Speaker 3: a friend. People have motherfucking lives.

1810
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: It reminds you of that, Yeah, of like when fifth grade,

1811
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 1: when you get your first best friends, all you do

1812
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: is just spend each other's time. It's like, dawg, I'm

1813
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: not gonna be on the phone with you every day.

1814
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: I'm not. And at the same time, I understand if

1815
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 1: that's what you need, it just can't come from me, No,

1816
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,440
Speaker 1: it cannot. But it's the weird judgment and the entitlement

1817
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 1: that I and expressing of that that I do find like, damn,

1818
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: this has really turned a lot of us into really selfish,

1819
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: self absorbed people who are constantly trying to put our

1820
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: own loneliness on everybody else, our own insecuriti zone. It's

1821
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: on everybody else to fix and put first, you know.

1822
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: And that book Conflict Is Not Abuse and talk about

1823
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: people that have been victims of trauma and stuff, and

1824
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: it's like, look, once you've been in the traumatic experience,

1825
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 1: you live with this trauma. The Black people we live

1826
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: with it all the time, right, racial trauma. At some

1827
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 1: point though, it is your thing to deal with, and

1828
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: so you can't always function or be trusted to lead

1829
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 1: and do all the shit if you lead from a

1830
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: place of unresolved trauma first. But we've been able to

1831
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: reverse the polarity on that online and be like the

1832
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 1: person that's the most traumatized should have the most power

1833
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: in the most say so't do that in any other

1834
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: If you worked at a job and somebody was like,

1835
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: I had racism happened to me one day and I

1836
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: never got over it, they wouldn't be able to walk

1837
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: into your job and be like, okay, so because some

1838
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: racist shit happened to me one day, all the white

1839
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: people get the fuck out. We were like, what, No,

1840
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: you can't be the manager you can, but online you can.

1841
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: You can do that. You can kind of flip it

1842
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 1: to be like, uh, you know, uh, this thing happened

1843
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 1: to me and that I'll never forgive this group of people.

1844
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 1: Everyone need to act accordingly. Hey, anytime you guys bring

1845
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: up this topic, I don't feel good. So you got

1846
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: to stop talking about it like that's and I think

1847
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 1: that that has enabled us to really be like these

1848
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: quote unquote friendships we talk about to they're not really

1849
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: friendships because when we get to these moments of conflict,

1850
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 1: it's over, you know, And I think that's really not good.

1851
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 3: It's not good. It's not healthy.

1852
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 2: And people are not like I said that, people don't

1853
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 2: like checklists and people aren't like we slip you can

1854
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:00,759
Speaker 2: folded up, throw and try to forget.

1855
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 3: You just can't do that.

1856
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 2: But people do this all the time, and it's devastating.

1857
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 2: These can be devastating to people, like you know, and

1858
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 2: it causes hurt people to continue to hurt people like like,

1859
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 2: that's a true statement, but that's a real thing.

1860
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it says the way we talk about friendship

1861
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 1: paints an ugly picture of the new notion of relating,

1862
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: one that seeks maximum return on minimum investment, and outlines

1863
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: in our exit strategy anytime a friend doesn't fulfill our fantasies.

1864
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,839
Speaker 1: These posts reveal more about the toxicity of our society

1865
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,839
Speaker 1: than the negative people that are describing it's a friendship

1866
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: as a capitalistic exchange instead of relationships involving people who

1867
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 1: care about each other, hanging out and helping each other

1868
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: through lives ups and downs. It's enough to make you

1869
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: want to cry into a beer with a confidant, you know,

1870
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 1: a close friend of the kind that's going out of style.

1871
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1872
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know it's also I think for me,

1873
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it's a generational thing, but

1874
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 2: sometimes it's nothing like hearing somebody's voice, because so many

1875
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 2: people will do online so much.

1876
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 3: No, sometimes let me are.

1877
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: You okay, Let me hear your voice, let me hear

1878
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,480
Speaker 2: your inflections, let me physically see your face.

1879
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:16,240
Speaker 1: Once again, different love language. Some people need that, you know,

1880
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily you gotta call me and be talking.

1881
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I think I think there's been some

1882
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: chances sometimes where I've reached that level. I'm like, well,

1883
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: maybe if I talk to this person, they'll understand. Maybe

1884
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 1: if I see this person and you know what, sometimes

1885
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: their trauma and shit is so deep it won't even matter,

1886
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, but that you know, different love languages transacting relationships.

1887
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: Take for example, a recent New York Times article about

1888
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: the power positive people, which asks are your friendships giving

1889
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 1: you bringing you down? In it? Terror Parker Pope, just

1890
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: back from a wellness cruise fill with up the personalities

1891
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 1: Advisor readers to be mindful of the relationships for the

1892
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,879
Speaker 1: sake of a long life. Bully by experience, I returned

1893
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: home with a renewed commitment not only to exercise a

1894
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 1: healthy health for living, but to simply step up my

1895
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: social life and spend more time hanging out with happy people.

1896
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:07,879
Speaker 1: Pity her pals. Let's hope none of them are struggling

1897
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: side or in need of a friend, because it seems

1898
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: like should be preoccupied trying to find more positive people

1899
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 1: while many of us focus primarily on die that exercise

1900
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: achieve better health. Side suggests our well being is also

1901
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: influenced by the company we keep, She writes. The article

1902
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: advised choosing friends wisely for how they improve health, and

1903
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,600
Speaker 1: directs readers to a quiz about optimizing friendships. Yeah, and

1904
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: that's the other that's what we talked about to start

1905
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: the show. If you really are friends with somebody, you

1906
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: gotta go through the shit sometimes, yes, you do.

1907
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 2: And it ain't gonna always be pretty. They gonna hurt

1908
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 2: your feelings, they're gonna tell you you ain't right that

1909
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: you know, like, and that's the part of the with

1910
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 2: friendships crack.

1911
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 1: If there's no foundation, Yeah, if it's not really a

1912
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: friendship a lot of and that it should be okay.

1913
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,919
Speaker 1: And I think people should be okay with that language

1914
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 1: of we're like, we're not really friends or whatever just

1915
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 1: because we follow each other on Facebook. Like we should

1916
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: be able to say, like, yo, that person's cool. But

1917
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: like if fucking they puppy died, all I got for

1918
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: is I'm sorry, Like I don't, like I'm not coming

1919
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 1: to your house, like I can't. There's only so much

1920
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 1: I can't do for you and that and like it's

1921
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 1: and most people rational people will be like I didn't

1922
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: expect you to do more than that. That's fine, yes,

1923
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: but there is like another level where it does seem

1924
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 1: like people are like not fuck that or even worse,

1925
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: some bad happen to somebody is like fuck them that

1926
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,560
Speaker 1: they don't add happiness to my life. You gotta go

1927
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 1: oh yo, yo, you're dealing with depression, all right, Dan,

1928
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 1: fuck you? You know what happened to them? I don't know, right.

1929
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 2: And also when it comes to friendships, people always go, well,

1930
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 2: what can I take? But what they fail to realize

1931
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 2: they give a lot of shit. People get their relationships.

1932
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: They give you depression, they give you their pain, they

1933
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 2: give you their hurt, but it's not reciprocated.

1934
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: That's not a friendship e them. Yeah. Man, So it

1935
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 1: just made me think about all that stuff when I

1936
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 1: was reading this and like how we've kind of changed

1937
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 1: or at least at least been able to now denote

1938
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: more specifically the changes as you go through life. Yes,

1939
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: all right, this has been a very serious, serious episode without.

1940
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:16,839
Speaker 2: A lot of laughs, not a lot of serious serious episode,

1941
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 2: A lot of tears.

1942
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,879
Speaker 1: Uh, this special hour. Yeah, it's been a very special

1943
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: the black Out tips. Okay, we talked about a lot

1944
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: of stuff about death and friendships and thankfulness and gratefulness

1945
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I feel like we have

1946
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: to at least have some fun, you know, just for

1947
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 1: my own insecurity, so that I can feel like we

1948
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 1: did something something good here. I think we should maybe

1949
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: play some guests the race and then we can do

1950
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:50,680
Speaker 1: sore ratchetess and get out of here.

1951
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 4: Now it's time for some guests the race. That's right,

1952
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 4: this guests the race time. Now that it is time

1953
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 4: for some guests the race. That's right, guest the race time.

1954
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: That's right, It's time for guests the race. The number

1955
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 1: one show going across all the podcast land where we

1956
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 1: play Renews articles and we asked our can test is

1957
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 1: Karen and the chat room to guess the race, and

1958
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 1: of course everyone playing is a stone colde races. All right,

1959
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: let's see who's first in our articles today. Uh, A

1960
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,680
Speaker 1: woman is accused of your dog gearing to pass a

1961
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: drug test. White. Wow. Okay, Gary's going white right out

1962
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 1: the gates.

1963
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

1964
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: It's like we found out through the drug test. I

1965
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: am so pregnant. Ah with puppies.

1966
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 3: Uh.

1967
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: Pineville, Kentucky, a Kentucky woman was arrested Monday at the

1968
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: Police said she tried to use her dog's Peter fake

1969
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: drug test for the year old Julie Miller was having

1970
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 1: a regular probation visit. As part of her probation, she

1971
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 1: was scheduled for a drug screen. Her probation officer found

1972
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 1: that she sneaked in the sample of urine to pass

1973
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: office her own. Police says. She later mures from her dog,

1974
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 1: how do you get the dog urine? She allegedly told

1975
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: believe she knew her drug test would show that she

1976
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: had used methamphetamine and sub box on. Miller was arrested

1977
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: in charge of tampering with physical evidence. She was later

1978
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: served with probation violation and served with trafficking and control

1979
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 1: substance warrant. And her dog now thinks it owns that toilet. Karen,

1980
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 1: you's gonna stick with white?

1981
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 3: I am, I am.

1982
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 1: Let's check the chat room and see what these people believe.

1983
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: Kisses the dog in the mouth? White white, says Mary,

1984
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 1: super white says Jackie. Not a lot of guesses on

1985
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: this one. I guess this movie the finest trailer park.

1986
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 1: White figures say she and the dogs mailed the saying

1987
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,719
Speaker 1: the euro was the saying, so why damn white? White? Didn'

1988
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: Karen's gas myth white? Yet white? The white woman? I

1989
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,679
Speaker 1: bet the dog was white to the dog was named king. Okay,

1990
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: so that's black white white white dogs are supposed to

1991
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 1: say white kids from Wales, not white women from jail,

1992
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: white trailer park from Watchman, white white Becky from the

1993
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 1: HR to correct answer is she was white. Some of

1994
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: you guys did get it wrong. One person got it wrong.

1995
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 1: They said, what did the picture shop yet? Is okay?

1996
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 2: Oh?

1997
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 1: And she gona look like a dog.

1998
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1999
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Oh, they could pretty much tell she was on the meth.

2000
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the dog, you know, was

2001
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: gonna really help. Yeah, that dog on hunt. As they say,

2002
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 1: let's see, let's go to another one. Facebook comments led

2003
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 1: to homicide charge in Cedarburg crash from July. May Kwan

2004
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 1: driver was a Maekwan driver whose passenger toe investigators he

2005
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 1: boasted that he didn't plan to stop for a stop

2006
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 1: sligne along a rural road outside of Cedarsburg in July.

2007
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 1: Has now been charged with negligent homicide for the resulting crash.

2008
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Adam Girch, nineteen of May. Kwan told May

2009
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: his initial quarter apparents Monday, when a judge sat twenty

2010
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars sign at jabond the offense of homicide

2011
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: by negligent operation of a motor vehicle is punishable about

2012
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: the five years in prison and five years of extended supervision.

2013
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 1: He was driving north on Granville Road in the town

2014
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 1: of Cedarberg shortly after five pm on July third, when

2015
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 1: he ignored a stop sign a County highway in inn

2016
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: uh and he hit a westbound card driven michaelenn Lewis.

2017
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 1: Lewis fifty six, of cedar Bird Was from now is

2018
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,799
Speaker 1: dead at the hospital after he was flown by helicopter

2019
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 1: from the crash site. Gerts remained at the scene and

2020
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 1: told the Shares Devid he just didn't see the stop sign.

2021
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: At the time, he was cited for fell into a

2022
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: ball stop sign causing great bodily harm, But days later

2023
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 1: so at the police Department noticed comments on his Facebook

2024
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: On his Facebook page about the crash, suggesting Gertz had

2025
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: commented to his passenger that he was fully aware of

2026
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 1: the stop sidne it had stopped. It had compidented commented,

2027
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 1: no cop, no stop. Someone who had been mowing his

2028
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 1: lawn near the intersection also let the Facebook comment that

2029
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 1: prompted investigators to follow up. The man said even though

2030
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: he was wearing headphones while mowing, he could hear gers

2031
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: car approaching a hospit and knew it was going too

2032
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:45,560
Speaker 1: fast to stop the intersection. Shit in reconstruction of the

2033
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 1: site of the crash show that he was going forty

2034
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: nine to fifty three miles per hour at the point

2035
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 1: of impact. Karen guessed the race of Adam Gertz white.

2036
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 1: Karen's going with white.

2037
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 2: Now the name I keep wanting to say black because

2038
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 2: the name is sound like a black ass town. When

2039
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 2: you said, like back to the bar, I was like, yes,

2040
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 2: Nick one.

2041
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 1: I was like big one, white, white, white. Everybody's going

2042
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 1: white on this one redneck renamed remained at the scene. White,

2043
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:20,560
Speaker 1: just white, black, says Stephanie White. Uh, all right, the

2044
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: correct answer is white. Some of you guys, Stephanie missed it,

2045
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 1: she said. And that's him right there. They show up

2046
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:52,759
Speaker 1: not so no problem. But yeah, he's like a little

2047
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 1: white kid man like oh yeah, young, I know man,

2048
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 1: babes killing babies and somebody man and then his friend

2049
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 1: basically snitched. But you know what, good get them off

2050
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 1: the streets. That's crazy, right, all right, it's time to

2051
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: go to the bonus round. All right, now to the

2052
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:28,440
Speaker 1: bonus round. Where's my bonus round music and the rat.

2053
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 3: And the race.

2054
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 1: That's right, double the points, double the race in the

2055
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:38,600
Speaker 1: bonus round the guess the race so far? Care is

2056
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 1: two for two? But can she go three for three?

2057
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 1: Let's find out? All right? Care for all the marbles?

2058
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 3: Uh?

2059
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: This happened for yesterday. Nashville Metro Police say a woman

2060
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 1: threatened to kill her friend over a fast food drive

2061
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:03,679
Speaker 1: through order, according to arrest work. According to arrest records,

2062
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 1: twenty six year old Julia Deuiz Deuise drove her friend

2063
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 1: to Wendy's on Charlotte Pike to get something to eat.

2064
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,680
Speaker 1: The victim was the one paying for the meal and

2065
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 1: got upset when Deuise was ordering a lot of food

2066
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: at the drive through. Ah, man, I remember this, dude.

2067
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: Derek used to do that in college. He'd be like,

2068
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 1: oh man, you know, let me borrow some money, and

2069
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 1: then we go to Wendy's and be like, you got

2070
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:29,600
Speaker 1: me on my food and I'm like, all right, I

2071
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:31,639
Speaker 1: got you. And then he proceeded to order like ten

2072
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 1: dollars food and I'd be like, I don't got you.

2073
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Deuise pulled into a pocket space

2074
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 1: and asked to see what was in the bag before

2075
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 1: getting upset with the victim and pulling out a pocket knife.

2076
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 3: Oh shit.

2077
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 1: Deuise opened up the pocket knife, pointed at the victim

2078
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 1: and told her to get the fuck out of the car.

2079
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 1: The victim got out, but dropped a five dollars on

2080
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: the passenger side floorboard. Deuise picked up the money. Deuise

2081
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: picked up the money, and the victim told her she

2082
01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 1: wanted it back. She wanted her money back, so I'm

2083
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 1: paying for the food. You had five dollars. You ordered

2084
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:05,760
Speaker 1: a whole lot of shit and you don't want to

2085
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 1: put in on this. Deuise said she was going to

2086
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: kill the victim and started chasing her around the car

2087
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: while she had a knife in her hand. The victim

2088
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: ran to Thornton's gas station next door and got away

2089
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 1: from Deuise. When police arrived, Deuise told police that she

2090
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 1: opened her pocket knife and pointed at the victim when

2091
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: the victim refused to get out the car and hand

2092
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 1: it over the knife. The victim was not injured. Deuise

2093
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 1: was charged with aggravator saw what a daily weapon Bomber

2094
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,799
Speaker 1: said that five thousand dollars way more visials than Wendy's.

2095
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 1: The defendant drove the victim to the Wendy's to get

2096
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: some the in Oh, just the police report. Okay, so yeah,

2097
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 1: that's it. Karen guests the race of Julia Deuise, Julia Dewise.

2098
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 1: Kara's going with white. Let's check the chat room, see

2099
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 1: what they believe. Don't know, Julia Deuise Deuise, you need

2100
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 1: to spell it, yes, du e e a s e.

2101
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 3: Oh, but I'm gonna go black then.

2102
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's see those stack says she ain't

2103
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 1: right for trying to stab her. But I get it, Latino.

2104
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 1: They love knives. The two stooges white? How much much?

2105
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 1: How much is fire? Dof was really worth? A darke

2106
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 1: as life? Black? Don't mess with the big white girl,

2107
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 1: hate the victim, blame but black? Oh, this is black.

2108
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 1: Them spicy nuggets had a strange effect on niggas black.

2109
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: A murder was almost committed over a foe and a

2110
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:37,759
Speaker 1: foe for four black. Where's the beef? Julie got black black,

2111
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: and she'll do it again the correct esswer is and

2112
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 1: most of y'all went with black, and you got it wrong.

2113
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 1: She's white.

2114
01:51:46,640 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 6: Ah, I should have kept our first guess, and of.

2115
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 1: Course a few of you said white. You went off screen,

2116
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 1: I went on screen. Fuck ah froze. Okay, hold on,

2117
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:21,560
Speaker 1: hold on, let me pausitive recording. All right, that's that.

2118
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm back on screen. Now that's her, Julie Deuise up

2119
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:30,679
Speaker 1: in Nashville. She should stab motherfucker over some some Wendy's.

2120
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 1: I will say that much. I mean, I wouldn't try

2121
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 1: her if I was in the passenger side. I think

2122
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: the part that almost gets you stabbed is the oh yeah,

2123
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 1: you up? Yeah. I think the part that almost gets

2124
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: you stabbed is the five dollars.

2125
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 3: I think she was okay cool? Did she see that

2126
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 3: five drop?

2127
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 1: And also like the nerve you to call the cops? Nigga,

2128
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:53,719
Speaker 1: I gave you a ride, was gonna pay for your food?

2129
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 1: You get greedy? You had five dollars the whole time.

2130
01:52:57,080 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 1: You could just gave me the five talking about let

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Speaker 1: me get my back, and then you wanna fucking call

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Speaker 1: the cops. What that's some traitors behavior. I'll never fuck

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Speaker 1: with you again. Okay, that's one friendship I will lose. Okay, right,

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Speaker 1: Facebook or Twitter, I don't care. Unfollowed, block, muted, forever

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Speaker 1: out of my life. All right, let's get to soord

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Speaker 1: ratchetness and then we'll get out of here, guys. And

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Speaker 1: while that was happening in Firefox, we just decided to

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Speaker 1: move real slow, so we'll be getting the soword ratchiness

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Speaker 1: in a second soord ratchiness. Of course, of the segment

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Speaker 1: where we talk about all these different sword things stories

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01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 1: that are going across the world and how our lack

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Speaker 1: of laws and unfortunate of those laws against people walking

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Speaker 1: around with swords is causing chaos amongst the world. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and if it was guns, we'd be taking it a

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01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 1: little more sis. But we can't even get guns at

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01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 1: the control because why we never saw it's in the control.

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01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 1: So we have attainable goals, and one of the obtainable

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Speaker 1: goals I think, set a lot of these swords regulated,

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Speaker 1: get them off the street people, and teach them some

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Speaker 1: classes about how to wild the sword and derailed it responsibly.

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01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 1: Because right now you can go to any comic con

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01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 1: convention whatever, grab one of these quote unquote replica swords

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01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 1: and just be walking around stabbing people within minutes. There's

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Speaker 1: no registration, there's no test for proficiency. We don't keep

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Speaker 1: like a list of who's these swords or nothing, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big that's a big problem. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is a seventeen year old that missed it, threatening

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Speaker 1: another team with the samurai saw it over one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, Singapore unhappy that an eighteen year old. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: let me go down. I'm happy that an eighteen year

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Speaker 1: old owed his brother one hundred dollars a seventeen year

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Speaker 1: old in front of him with a samurai saw. One

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Speaker 1: night last September, Muhammad Alif Mustafa admitted to one charge

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Speaker 1: of criminal intimidation on Thursday. The court heard that he

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Speaker 1: unsheet the sword inside the victim's home or drawing east,

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Speaker 1: threatening to slash the older boy with the twenty seven

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Speaker 1: centimeter weapon if he did not come out of the house.

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Speaker 1: His charge sheet states that this zach words would come

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01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 1: down with us if not, I stab you straight to

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Speaker 1: the point, said literally. Alif, who was sent to a

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Speaker 1: juvenile home in twenty seventeen for committed house trespassing theft,

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01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: may face imprisonment for his current charge, but given his

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Speaker 1: young age, Deputy Prosecutor Angela Ang called for a probation.

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Speaker 1: Suitability report before making representations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like to men, that's a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we were just talking aboutablished on over five.

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Speaker 1: I can see see why you would want to stab

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Speaker 1: someone over one hundred. That's why you shouldn't have a sword.

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Speaker 1: A lave who was not represented by a lawyer, requested

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Speaker 1: to be placed on probation instead of giving jail time.

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Speaker 1: My mother's not working. I am the only support for

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Speaker 1: my mother. District Judge Seah agreed to the probation suitability

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Speaker 1: report to be prepared and adjourned for the matter of

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Speaker 1: January thirtieth for citizen. He also claimed that the sword

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Speaker 1: was actually just as scared the victim, which I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's probably true. I'd be scared of a nigga at

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Speaker 1: a sword. But you know, what's the difference between trying

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Speaker 1: to scare somebody with it and trying to kill him

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Speaker 1: with it? Either one. I can't be assuming when you

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Speaker 1: pull the sword out, like, oh, he's just scared, you know. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: somebody old his brother some money, so he asked four

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Speaker 1: of his friends between the age of seventeen twenty one

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Speaker 1: to meet him at What's this Dude's name is Jackson

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Speaker 1: Mohammad Yoahson Daniel Razulan to meet at Y'allson's flat to

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Speaker 1: support him as he planning to confront y'ason or is

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Speaker 1: it y'all seen. He decided to bring along the sword

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Speaker 1: so that he could use it to scare y'all sin

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Speaker 1: and to prepareing the debt, while the void deck of

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Speaker 1: y'all seeings blocked the group spot of the friend of

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Speaker 1: y'all sins and instructed him to get y'all sin to

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Speaker 1: carry down to come down to meet him. The friend man,

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Speaker 1: these dudes was pretty deplicitus. They was involved in this.

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Speaker 1: They should get some charges. We got your back luring

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01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 1: the dude down and shit. The friend texted y'all said,

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Speaker 1: but there was no reply. So they went up into

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Speaker 1: his unit and shout for him to come out. Y'all said,

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01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 1: opened the gate to his unit upoint here and the

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Speaker 1: ruckus at the time. At that point, two members of

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Speaker 1: at least company in seventeen year old atarl against Shot

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Speaker 1: and y'all sin about their own personal grievances against them.

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01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 1: Oh he owe everybody's some money.

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01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:47,200
Speaker 3: Oh he's taking everybody the money.

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Speaker 1: What about that shit you said about my sister's son.

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01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 1: What is it? Dounecut in a fit of anger a

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Speaker 1: leaf then unsheath his sword and directed that y'all, saying,

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Speaker 1: threatening to slash him if he then I step out

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01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 1: of his unit to talk things out. Well, I'm gonna

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01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 1: tell y'all I'm not coming out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't blame you for not coming Yeah, now that.

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Speaker 1: You pull the sword out, that's y'all them. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: a lot less likely to come out. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you want to talk. Frighten, y'all said total leak that

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01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 1: he needed five minutes to use the washroom first. Oh, okay, man,

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01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 1: just let me take a shit real quick because my

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01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 1: parents are full of it. Now that y'all scared to

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Speaker 1: shit out of me, frightened, he said, okay, so y'all

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01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 1: seeing the click and close the doors, Union call the

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Speaker 1: police like a smart person. The group fled when they

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Speaker 1: noticed police cars entering the car park nearby, but they

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Speaker 1: would later trace to interest it. Damn one hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: I get it, but damn all right, that's it for today,

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Speaker 1: show man. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that show can be anything we wanted to be.

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Speaker 3: In ten, ten years down, hold on ye Like, I think.

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Speaker 1: This is a great epishod decade. It's a great episode

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Speaker 1: to put the proof we can do whatever we want to.

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Speaker 1: Apparently yes, because hour and fifty minutes of this was

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Speaker 1: nothing but serious shit. So thank y'all for listening, and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate all your your well wishes and condolences to

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01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 1: Karen and all your thoughts and stuff. So thank you,

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01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 1: and we'll let you guys know or if you don't

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01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 1: see you know, more shows may be traveling and stuff,

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01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 1: so you know, all right, y'all until next time, I

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Speaker 1: love you, yeah,