Speaker 1: Who's number one?
Speaker 2: It mic be this guy cam Ward who just cut
Speaker 2: it loose in his pro day on NFL Network, And
Speaker 2: how did Ward feel about the workout and his conversations
Speaker 2: with the Titans. Here from cam Ward himself as he
Speaker 2: joins our guys in Miami. Aaron Rodgers pro day was
Speaker 2: twenty years ago this month, and here we are still
Speaker 2: talking about his next team. Will it be the Steelers,
Speaker 2: Will it be the Giants? Will it be something really
Speaker 2: cool that we don't even know about. We will tell
Speaker 2: you the latest as Rogers Watch continues. Have already been
Speaker 2: a lot of big moves around the NFL over the
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks, So who could now be in
Speaker 2: line for a turnaround in twenty twenty five. Judy Batista
Speaker 2: will reveal her picks, but first she'll smile and nod
Speaker 2: as I introduced the show Welcome Inside with the Insiders
Speaker 2: alongside Judy and Ian Rappaport and my Gara follow I
Speaker 2: am Tom Pelisserro. It is a big day, not because
Speaker 2: we had cam Ward on the field, because today Marx
Speaker 2: one month from the NFL Draft. That's right April twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: in Green Bay. There's just a few of the faces
Speaker 2: that you could see crossing the stage or getting the
Speaker 2: news at home that they have their new NFL team's
Speaker 2: first name off the board. Well, it seems increasingly there's
Speaker 2: a good chance it could be Miami quarterback cam Ward,
Speaker 2: who was out on the field in front of a
Speaker 2: ton of scouts and coaches earlier today, including some who
Speaker 2: happen to be sitting on that number one pick in Tennessee.
Speaker 2: After the workout, cam Ward joined cam Wolf and Brian
Speaker 2: Baldinger at Miami.
Speaker 3: Here joined with cam Ward off your pro day workout,
Speaker 3: and you were just talking about how many Pro days
Speaker 3: you watched going forward. When does it sink in that
Speaker 3: you were the front facing member of this draft class,
Speaker 3: this moment, give all the journey you've had to get here.
Speaker 4: I never really thought about it, honestly.
Speaker 5: Uh, And I'm I'm just blessed to be in a
Speaker 5: position for all thirty two teams to be here, you know,
Speaker 5: now for myself before my teammates, I've been blessing so
Speaker 5: you know, as it sunk in yet, but I'm excited
Speaker 5: for the for the future.
Speaker 6: I was holding Sam Brown, you know what, doing the workout,
Speaker 6: and you know, everybody makes this out to be a
Speaker 6: big production. He's like, we do this after practice every day,
Speaker 6: like almost did it almost feel like that at some point?
Speaker 6: Like you just I mean obviously you guys, you know,
Speaker 6: want to put on a good show, you want to perform,
Speaker 6: but like, did it.
Speaker 7: Feel like this this is this is our routine?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is practice for us. That's why I've seen
Speaker 5: like two or three reloads. We would get it right
Speaker 5: back like like what we did at practice throughout the season.
Speaker 4: So so if you.
Speaker 5: Missed a throw or the receiver doesn't get there, they
Speaker 5: don't like how they was we getting it back at
Speaker 5: the end of practice. So that's just always our mindsets
Speaker 5: are you know, us as a whole quarterback and receiver room.
Speaker 5: And I know I'm just surrounded by a great group
Speaker 5: of guys from j G to Schrepo, sam Elaja Cam.
Speaker 5: But you know, the script, it was a good script
Speaker 5: because it was stuff that you know, I did a
Speaker 5: lot of during the season, So rhythm, just imitating players
Speaker 5: I already did. In my mind, I'm thinking more first
Speaker 5: and second down, third down scenarios like that's what we
Speaker 5: had some motions on there, and I'm just going through
Speaker 5: game time self. I'm not really thinking about, you know,
Speaker 5: throwing this specific route and this dropped to me, it's
Speaker 5: just all game game things.
Speaker 3: There was a throw that you did on the roll
Speaker 3: on the run where you hit a dime and it
Speaker 3: looked like you turned to the Titans brass Chad Brinker
Speaker 3: Mike Gorzoni and said something to them.
Speaker 7: What did you say to it?
Speaker 5: I said, I'm solidifying it today.
Speaker 4: They heard you.
Speaker 7: I made sure they heard me.
Speaker 3: So I guess off that tip. The Titans obviously have
Speaker 3: the number one overall pick.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: They like you, they've had you in the building. What
Speaker 3: did you want to show them today?
Speaker 5: I said, only showing them, but every really teams just
Speaker 5: thrown on rhythm where there's three steps on rhythm, five
Speaker 5: steps on rhythm for under in the gun heavy player, uh,
Speaker 5: you know gun five with moving outside of the pockets.
Speaker 5: Just showing them all you know under center stuff that
Speaker 5: I didn't get to show as much during the season.
Speaker 5: Let him know that I'm capable of it because the
Speaker 5: end of the day, the NFL is not playing on
Speaker 5: the center all the time there in the gun, but
Speaker 5: you gotta be able to do it. And so that
Speaker 5: was the main focus for me. And then on the
Speaker 5: net is just making it all a boy. My receiver
Speaker 5: seanna throw doem catchup with balls? Bet should and I
Speaker 5: have balls at the ground. We had a couple but
Speaker 5: the end of the day, you ain't gonna be perfect.
Speaker 5: You always got stuff to get better.
Speaker 2: At great interview there from Miami Pro Day, I will say,
Speaker 2: and this is selfish here, if he does go number
Speaker 2: one to the Titans, cam Wolf, who covers Tennessee a
Speaker 2: lot for us constantly talking about cam Ward is going
Speaker 2: to be a disaster for me to spit out the
Speaker 2: correct names on TV. But it certainly seems like ian
Speaker 2: as you watch that little by play there, cam Ward
Speaker 2: seems pretty confident that he knows where exactly he's going
Speaker 2: to be landing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, gim Ward should be confident now, first of all,
Speaker 9: as far as where he slots in for from you know,
Speaker 9: compared to the other quarterbacks, compared to the other top prospects.
Speaker 9: It does seem to me, based on the people I've
Speaker 9: spoken with, and this is obviously not a surprise, that
Speaker 9: he is looking increasingly likely that cam Ward is the
Speaker 9: number one overall pick.
Speaker 4: It is not done.
Speaker 9: People are not done with their evaluations. We don't even
Speaker 9: know what team is going to pick number one, but
Speaker 9: certainly seems the most likely scenario is that cam Ward
Speaker 9: is number one. As far as the Tennessee Titans go
Speaker 9: my understanding, despite the fact that they haven't signed a
Speaker 9: veteran quarterback yet still need one and do not yet
Speaker 9: have it in Trench Starter, haven't made the firm and
Speaker 9: final decision that they are making the pick. They are
Speaker 9: still going through the evaluation process that includes obviously this
Speaker 9: pro date includes obviously talking with members of the Tennessee
Speaker 9: Titan staff, dining with them during.
Speaker 7: The course of his pro day and before his pro day.
Speaker 9: I'm told the Titans are also going to have private
Speaker 9: workouts with cam Ward and Shador Sanders. Those should be
Speaker 9: over the next two or so weeks. It is all
Speaker 9: part of the process, guys, for them to evaluate where
Speaker 9: they are. Do they want to consider potential offers to
Speaker 9: trade back, or do they want to make the pick.
Speaker 9: To me, it seems likely as of now make the pick,
Speaker 9: but certainly they are not done with that decision.
Speaker 10: Well, whoever ends up picking first overall, whether it is
Speaker 10: the Titans or they somehow trade out of that spot,
Speaker 10: it certainly seems clear that cam Ward is he said
Speaker 10: he was trying to solidify things. That he solidified things
Speaker 10: today we know about his arm. One thing that I
Speaker 10: have learned about him, I pay a little bit more
Speaker 10: attention to the University of Miami Hurricanes than I do
Speaker 10: to other programs. It's my alma mater. But one thing
Speaker 10: that people who are around that program from the time
Speaker 10: he got there out of the transfer portal was he
Speaker 10: was a natural leader really from the beginning. I mean,
Speaker 10: obviously he got there, he was there only one year.
Speaker 10: He comes into the building, you know he's going to
Speaker 10: be a one and done, and he immediately asserted himself
Speaker 10: sort of as the alpha personality on the team. He
Speaker 10: elevated everything around him, elevated all the other players around him.
Speaker 10: And if you are the Tennessee Titans, or frankly, if
Speaker 10: you're any of those teams that are up at the
Speaker 10: top of the draft this year in need of a
Speaker 10: franchise quarterback, that's what you want in terms of personality.
Speaker 10: The skill is clear, you can see that, you can
Speaker 10: see the arm, but you also want that kind of
Speaker 10: leadership personality because all of the teams that are picking
Speaker 10: up high are at some point of a rebuild. Certainly
Speaker 10: the Tennessee Titans have what looks to be a multi
Speaker 10: year rebuild ahead of them. You want somebody who can
Speaker 10: elevate everybody in the room along with him, the way
Speaker 10: we saw Jaden Daniels do last year in Washington. That
Speaker 10: seems to be something that cam Ward is capable of
Speaker 10: doing as well.
Speaker 11: You see that Giants logo there, Judy the number third
Speaker 11: overall pick, which could have been number one if they
Speaker 11: had just lost to the Colts, like I guess they
Speaker 11: were supposed to. They didn't, so now they're kind of
Speaker 11: sort of out of it. And I was struck by
Speaker 11: the one shot we see of cam Ward with Mike Kafka,
Speaker 11: the Giants offensive coordinator, over the one shoulder, and over
Speaker 11: the other shoulder is Shay Tierney, the team's quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 11: And the Giants were there in full force to evaluate Ward,
Speaker 11: but they just might not get a shot to ever
Speaker 11: get up there and get to him.
Speaker 4: Ian Taught you said it was likely that.
Speaker 11: The Titans make that pick at number one overall, and
Speaker 11: that it is cam Ward. I would say that that
Speaker 11: is the consensus around the league when you talk to
Speaker 11: you quarterbacks agents or teams that we're trying to potentially
Speaker 11: trade with the Titans there for the number one overall pick,
Speaker 11: or have tried at least to this point. They're all
Speaker 11: sort of getting the sense that the communication was indicating
Speaker 11: we're going to stay put and we're going to take
Speaker 11: ourselves a quarterback here.
Speaker 4: Again, likely is.
Speaker 11: The word that I would use, because this is the draft.
Speaker 11: Nobody ever tells you for sure, and even if they
Speaker 11: know for sure, they want to keep that drama building
Speaker 11: up to draft day as well. So we don't know
Speaker 11: for sure, but the indications are that the Titans are
Speaker 11: more likely to select that make that selection at number one,
Speaker 11: and it is going to be cam Ward.
Speaker 4: We shall see still a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 11: Maybe somebody will blow their socks off with an offer
Speaker 11: and they'll say, hey, we just can't turn this one
Speaker 11: down and come out of the number one spot.
Speaker 7: We'll see on the.
Speaker 2: Time it's contingent is there at Miami. They also are
Speaker 2: one of the teams continuing to await a firm and
Speaker 2: final decision from one Aaron Rodgers, who at this point
Speaker 2: has taken a visit to Pittsburgh. Everything went well on Friday.
Speaker 2: Those teams have had those sides have had contract parameters
Speaker 2: in place. They had to get to know your meeting
Speaker 2: on Friday, certainly, though the Giants also remained involved at
Speaker 2: this point. Could it be one of those teams? Could
Speaker 2: it be potentially waiting for something else to open up?
Speaker 2: All we know for sure, and Cam Heywardes make this
Speaker 2: abundantly clear in multiple different venues, he would like a
Speaker 2: decision sometime soon.
Speaker 12: You're talking about an urgency with a bunch of you know,
Speaker 12: ogs that are might might be looking at the clock
Speaker 12: on the wall a little bit here, to be honest,
Speaker 12: That's why Rogers is kind of a fit there if
Speaker 12: you think about it, right, I mean like I don't
Speaker 12: know how much time he considers in his head that
Speaker 12: he does have left, but it would be similar to
Speaker 12: what you might be thinking, Cam, you know, and others
Speaker 12: on the team. That's kind of why it sounds like
Speaker 12: it's a fit. If you don't mind me just saying that.
Speaker 7: Dam Yeah, there's some poetic moves being played.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 13: The last Super Bowl he won was against the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 13: and now we kind of need him to come over
Speaker 13: here and win a Super Bowl. But the thing I
Speaker 13: love that it's not just going to be one guy
Speaker 13: there's a multitude of guys that if he does come here,
Speaker 13: they're only locked in on that.
Speaker 2: So from Hey cam Ward to Cam Hayward, that was
Speaker 2: a tough one. You've got a team in the Steelers
Speaker 2: that clearly has put everything else on hold at this point,
Speaker 2: Judy to try to get Aaron Rodgers there and Rich
Speaker 2: as you saw on his show The Richeisen Show, mekes
Speaker 2: a good point, which is this is a team that
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's been pushing in recent years in every venue possible.
Speaker 2: They continue to search for that answer at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: Is it if they get this done Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 10: Well, I thought it was interesting that m Hayward used
Speaker 10: the word urgency right. There is an urgency because there
Speaker 10: are some veteran players there who have not won a
Speaker 10: Super Bowl, who are nearing the ends of their careers,
Speaker 10: so there is personal urgency for them. There's clearly organizational
Speaker 10: urgency for the Pittsburgh Steelers who get to the playoffs
Speaker 10: year after year after year and then don't win a game.
Speaker 8: They need to push much further.
Speaker 10: This is a franchise that is used to collecting Lombardi Trophies.
Speaker 10: It does mesh really well with Aaron Rodgers, who certainly
Speaker 10: has a personal urgency to win another Super Bowl or
Speaker 10: at least get back to another Super Bowl. That visit
Speaker 10: to the Steeler strikes me as all about fit and comfort. Right,
Speaker 10: the contract parameters we know are there, and you know
Speaker 10: whoever it is, whether it's the Giants of the Steelers,
Speaker 10: the money is there. That doesn't seem to be the issue.
Speaker 10: It seems to be his comfort level, his fit, his
Speaker 10: feeling about the football operation.
Speaker 8: Does he mesh with it?
Speaker 10: So when you're in a building for six hours talking
Speaker 10: to coaches, that's what that is about. Now, I'm curious
Speaker 10: to see when and if he has a similar meeting
Speaker 10: with the New York Giants. Obviously he lives in New Jersey,
Speaker 10: so getting to the Giants is not really that big.
Speaker 8: A lift for him.
Speaker 10: But I'm curious to see if he has a similar
Speaker 10: meeting with the Giants, to see how the fit is there.
Speaker 10: Certainly it feels like this is tilting towards the Steelers.
Speaker 10: It is just as we have said now for the
Speaker 10: last few weeks. He is going to take his time,
Speaker 10: He's going to make sure everything is in place and
Speaker 10: that he's comfortable with this decision because this is probably
Speaker 10: the final team that he will play for whenever he decides.
Speaker 10: And of course there's still the remote possibility that he
Speaker 10: could just say, you know what, I'm going to sit
Speaker 10: this out and I'm going to retire Judy.
Speaker 11: You talked about the potential visit with the Giants. That
Speaker 11: was the question. Okay, you visited the Steelers, Now, how
Speaker 11: about a visit to the Giants. Wait, no visit to
Speaker 11: the Giants, and there's none really scheduled to this point
Speaker 11: and he may not take one. Okay, So doesn't that
Speaker 11: then rule the Giants out? I mean, isn't that an
Speaker 11: obvious signal that they're out of it? And I asked
Speaker 11: that question to everyone on all sides of this thing,
Speaker 11: and everything I'm getting back is no, the Giants are
Speaker 11: still in play.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 11: You can believe that or not believe that. Maybe he's
Speaker 11: training them along. You could say that that's what he's
Speaker 11: doing in this case. But every indication I've gotten is
Speaker 11: that he's had enough positive communication with the Giants right
Speaker 11: now that he doesn't feel like he has to make
Speaker 11: the visit again.
Speaker 4: Because you talked about.
Speaker 11: Him living there in Jersey and him being a part
Speaker 11: of the market the last couple of years, it would
Speaker 11: really only be about getting to the facility and talking
Speaker 11: to those guys there. But again, he's had those conversations
Speaker 11: with them virtually, so feels comfortable enough in the information
Speaker 11: that he has received that way. Now, I'm not saying
Speaker 11: he's going to the Giants. I'm not saying that they're
Speaker 11: more of a favorite than the Steelers at this point.
Speaker 11: I'm just saying I've asked the questions that Judy was
Speaker 11: just asking, basically to the people who may or may
Speaker 11: not know, and I'm still waiting for somebody to say, yeah,
Speaker 11: they're out of there. No, everybody's keeping the Giants in play.
Speaker 4: We'll see.
Speaker 9: Well, one of the problems Mike is like we've all
Speaker 9: spent the last several months, just like we've done the
Speaker 9: last couple of years, trying to get in Aaron Rogers head,
Speaker 9: and he doesn't talk to a ton of people, and
Speaker 9: the people he does talk to keep it pretty close
Speaker 9: to the vest, so we don't really truly know what
Speaker 9: he thinks except by his actions. We know that he's
Speaker 9: extremely interested in the Steelers because it was in their
Speaker 9: facility for many hours, you know, with their football staff,
Speaker 9: seems like I had a great meeting with the coaches,
Speaker 9: specifically met everyone from Art Rooney and Olmark on all
Speaker 9: the way down to all the coaches. That sounded like
Speaker 9: it went well. I know he's taken some time to
Speaker 9: get to know the Giants over the course of the
Speaker 9: last several weeks. So what I really wonder now is
Speaker 9: what else is there? Right, Like, if there's no Giants,
Speaker 9: if he's comfortable enough there to make a decision, shouldn't
Speaker 9: a decision be coming right because he has no more
Speaker 9: information to gather. Obviously, the draft is coming in a
Speaker 9: month or so, so some decisions should be coming soon.
Speaker 9: And the other part of this is tom is if
Speaker 9: he doesn't choose the Giants, they have a number three
Speaker 9: overall pick. If they so desire, they can take a quarterback.
Speaker 9: If it's not the Steelers, I really do wonder what's next.
Speaker 9: There seems to be a remote post stability Russell Wilson
Speaker 9: is back there after the way it ended last year,
Speaker 9: they then forced into drafting a quarterback like they did
Speaker 9: or so years ago, Like, what other options are there
Speaker 9: for the Dealers If it's not Rogers. Obviously they hope
Speaker 9: it is him, But if not, it gets pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: The Kirk Cousins possibility continues to linger out there, though
Speaker 2: at some point the Falcons would have to be willing
Speaker 2: to move him for a reasonable price tag in terms
Speaker 2: of draft compensation, and also take on a larger portion
Speaker 2: of his salary than to this point. It sounds like
Speaker 2: Atlanta has been willing.
Speaker 1: To do so.
Speaker 2: Still some moving parts and definitely some teams that are
Speaker 2: hoping by the owners meetings that start next week they're
Speaker 2: not having to all answer questions about this.
Speaker 1: Loyal viewers of our show might notice.
Speaker 2: Some differences in the backgrounds tonight, Mike coming to us
Speaker 2: from a secret bunker somewhere in New Jersey, Ian apparently
Speaker 2: coming to us from someone's grandma's dining room, because earlier
Speaker 2: today he was doing this.
Speaker 7: Welcome.
Speaker 4: I thought, you.
Speaker 7: Say, this is actually real.
Speaker 14: And actually happen.
Speaker 1: Trusted it.
Speaker 9: I told Paps before the show that I would nail it,
Speaker 9: and I did. I am Ian Rappaport also known as
Speaker 9: rap sheet Uh, and I am hosting the Pat McAfee
Speaker 9: show today in place of Pat. We don't know where
Speaker 9: Pat is. He is in another country. Parts unknown is
Speaker 9: how it was described to me. But I am told
Speaker 9: he is joining us.
Speaker 7: Right, I'm sitting the screen. You yeah, I'm just saying,
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I like the look on Pat's face when Ian said
Speaker 2: that he nailed the open, which was yeah, sure, buddy,
Speaker 2: that looked pretty good.
Speaker 9: You have funny and I had a great time. Those
Speaker 9: guys are an absolute blast. Fill in three hours. Talking
Speaker 9: about sports is slightly different from popping in from time
Speaker 9: to time like we do here. But so much love
Speaker 9: for Pat and the guys and for everyone who let
Speaker 9: me do it. An NFL network in again, you see
Speaker 9: my reaction me crushing the open, I would say probably
Speaker 9: the highlight, not just for me but for everyone pressing.
Speaker 7: It was awesome. I just have one.
Speaker 11: But what was your best NCAA tournament take today? Like,
Speaker 11: I'm sure you watched a ton of basketball over the weekend.
Speaker 14: No, I did.
Speaker 9: My favorite part basketball I was today was they said
Speaker 9: what was the name of the player who hit the
Speaker 9: shot from Maryland? And I thought for a second and
Speaker 9: I said Derek Queen, which is his name? So I
Speaker 9: you know, I was really proud of that moment.
Speaker 2: Very impressive, just like you put yourself on the Whedi's
Speaker 2: box with that, with that pose, there at the end
Speaker 2: of it, So congratulations Ian, safe travels back.
Speaker 1: We all love more of this show. The Insiders still
Speaker 1: to come.
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams got some new friends, including along the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Well that helped the Bears get over the hump. In
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, Judy is going to break it down
Speaker 2: for us. Also can be joined by Lance Zurline, our
Speaker 2: draft expert, talking about some of the most versatile players
Speaker 2: in this draft, not just Travis Hunter, how about JJ Peygeese.
Speaker 8: You don't get your geese for free, you gotta pay.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna walk away. The show's going on though.
Speaker 2: It's the Insiders Big Day April fourth in Boulder. That
Speaker 2: is when Colorado will hold its showcase for Shador Sanders,
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, and the rest of Colorado's draft eligible players.
Speaker 2: Borton opportunity for shdur did not throw at the combine
Speaker 2: to come out one last time and put his stamp
Speaker 2: on his draft stock. You can see it live on
Speaker 2: NFL Network April fourth, two thirty pm Eastern Time.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pilli, Cerah, Mike.
Speaker 2: Carofalo Join now by our draft expert, Lance Sirline. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about some of the most versatile players lance in
Speaker 2: this year's draft, and clearly the first want any such
Speaker 2: a list needs to be one of those guys in Colorado.
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's Travis Hunter. I mean, there's no doubt. This
Speaker 15: is a guy who's a two way player. Twenty six
Speaker 15: hundred snaps over the last two years. Twenty six hundred
Speaker 15: snaps over the last two years, which is insane. What
Speaker 15: makes him special is that he is really really good
Speaker 15: at both positions. He was a my top rated wide
Speaker 15: receiver in this draft. He's my top rated cornerback in
Speaker 15: this draft. And once you have as a player with
Speaker 15: unique instincts as a wide receiver, and that translates over
Speaker 15: even more so twofold as a cornerback because he recognizes
Speaker 15: the routes that are run. He recognizes when the ball's
Speaker 15: in the air, how to attack the ball. And I
Speaker 15: think that you know, when you watch Travis Hunter, he's
Speaker 15: going to be a player who can make big.
Speaker 7: Plays on either side of the ball. Now, how are
Speaker 7: you going to play him? I don't know. My guess
Speaker 7: is he'll be a full time corner and a part
Speaker 7: time wide receiver.
Speaker 15: I just know that when it comes to, you know,
Speaker 15: the ability to make plays on either side of the ball.
Speaker 15: He's a player that maybe we haven't seen in the
Speaker 15: NFL since maybe Chance Bailey, and even Champ Bailey only
Speaker 15: did that for small stretches in his career. So we're
Speaker 15: truly looking at a very unique versatile talent here in Travis.
Speaker 11: Hunter, Alabama coach Kaylin Debor and gonna join us later
Speaker 11: in the show. I'm going to ask him about Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 11: But guess what you get to answer first, Lance on
Speaker 11: what you think about the versatility of mister Milroe.
Speaker 7: Well, I think jaln Milroe.
Speaker 15: You know everyone's going to be all up at arms
Speaker 15: if you mentioned anything but him playing quarterback.
Speaker 7: But here's the thing. He's just an explosive athlete.
Speaker 15: I don't care if the ball's in his hands as
Speaker 15: a quarterback, if he's leaving the pocket as a runner.
Speaker 15: I know the NFL teams I talk to, they're very
Speaker 15: excited about him because he can do things that other
Speaker 15: quarterbacks can't do in this draft. But he can also
Speaker 15: do some things that other playmakers can't do. So what
Speaker 15: you're looking at as a very versatile playmaker when he
Speaker 15: comes in the game. He's a threat to hit a
Speaker 15: home run on you at any point. Now, where are
Speaker 15: you gonna line him up? Are you gonna line him
Speaker 15: up as a wildcat quarterback? Is he going to take
Speaker 15: snaps you know, as a triple option quarterback? Is he
Speaker 15: going to be a standard quarterback when he comes to
Speaker 15: the Is he going to line up somewhere in a slot?
Speaker 15: And now you don't know what to do with a
Speaker 15: guy like Jylen Milross. So I think he's a very
Speaker 15: versatile player because he's such an explosive athlete, and I
Speaker 15: think the right team could really set him up for
Speaker 15: success early in his career as they develop the quarterback
Speaker 15: part of who he's going to be as an NFL player.
Speaker 2: I was flipping over the R side of the ball here.
Speaker 2: Lance tell me about the versatility of Jalen Walker.
Speaker 7: Well, so, Jalen Walker.
Speaker 15: It's tricky with Jalen Walker because some teams believe that
Speaker 15: he hasn't shown enough instincts to be a full time linebacker.
Speaker 15: But I think it's just a matter of time He's
Speaker 15: going to be a full time linebacker. What he does
Speaker 15: well though, right now, is rush the quarterback. He's an
Speaker 15: extremely instinctive pass rusher. Now when you look at him,
Speaker 15: you can tell he doesn't have the size of a
Speaker 15: standard three to four outside linebacker. He doesn't look like
Speaker 15: a quote unquote edge player. But I think that's a benefit.
Speaker 15: In the past you might label him a tweiner. I
Speaker 15: call him a hybrid player now, and a hybrid player
Speaker 15: has a much more positive connotation. I think he's going
Speaker 15: to get better in terms of recognizing run plays and
Speaker 15: blocking schemes as a linebacker. But right now, what he
Speaker 15: can do right off the rip is going to be
Speaker 15: go out and get the quarterback. He can get into
Speaker 15: the pocket and cause mayhem, and he can do it
Speaker 15: either off the edge or is a blitzing linebacker from
Speaker 15: a variety of alignments. So I love that versatility because
Speaker 15: you can align him in a lot of different places
Speaker 15: and he can cause havoc from multiple spots along the
Speaker 15: defensive front.
Speaker 7: That's versatility on defense for me.
Speaker 11: Lan's talk to me about JJ Pegee from Old Miss.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I love JJ Pegee. So they used him. You know,
Speaker 15: it's funny when he went to Auburn. Initially they used
Speaker 15: him in a in a direct snap capacity. Then Ole
Speaker 15: Miss said, you know what, let's do the same thing.
Speaker 15: But what helps him stand out right away as things
Speaker 15: like this. On defense, He's got really special athleticism, quick feet,
Speaker 15: good spin move, he has rare change of direction for
Speaker 15: being three hundred and nine pounds. He is really, really
Speaker 15: tough once he gets in the backfield. And I like
Speaker 15: the fact that he can play all over the defensive line.
Speaker 15: He can play a three to four and he can
Speaker 15: play a four to three defensive tackle. They line him
Speaker 15: up on the nose at times, but the versatility doesn't
Speaker 15: stop with the lignement. Let's take him to the offensive
Speaker 15: side of the ball. On direct snaps, this guy is
Speaker 15: a monster. He finishes first downs at an unbelievable rate.
Speaker 15: Like every direct snap ends up in a first down
Speaker 15: or a touchdown, very rarely stopped. I think I counted
Speaker 15: him stopped one time. In twenty six carries. Twenty six carries,
Speaker 15: I think there were twenty five either first downs or
Speaker 15: touchdowns when he ran the ball.
Speaker 7: And if you're a team on offense, you got the
Speaker 7: tush push, the brotherly shove.
Speaker 15: Well, I'm getting j I'm getting the JJ payday because
Speaker 15: I'm giving the big man the ball and I'm gonna
Speaker 15: go let him eat right there at the one yard
Speaker 15: line as well, So try to stop that. It's tough
Speaker 15: stopping a guy who can squat six hundred pounds a quarterback.
Speaker 15: It's going to be hard stopping a guy like JJ
Speaker 15: Pageese as well.
Speaker 14: Well.
Speaker 11: I mean, the whole time I'm watching that, I'm thinking,
Speaker 11: who's strong enough to push that bush? And maybe, just
Speaker 11: maybe it would be Jalen Hurts who.
Speaker 4: Did the old squad of six I yuess you.
Speaker 11: Just mentioned it, So maybe they reverse the roles or
Speaker 11: maybe you don't know which one you're gonna get there.
Speaker 11: You're gonna get pig East pushing, You're gonna get Jalen pushing.
Speaker 11: That was his squad from wayback, which was topped by
Speaker 11: Dat and Win from Iowa or yeah, mine from Island Western.
Speaker 4: This is eight hundred and.
Speaker 8: Five pounds less.
Speaker 4: That's like six of you.
Speaker 7: Oh my, that's incredible.
Speaker 11: And he did it so easily, like there was no
Speaker 11: struggle on the way up.
Speaker 7: It's like joking. Look at that. They've got straps on
Speaker 7: the weights to keep them on.
Speaker 15: I haven't done something like that for at least fifteen years,
Speaker 15: so it's been a long time since I've been able
Speaker 15: to squad eight oh five. So you know, props to
Speaker 15: dad Win. That's really really tough to do. Trust me.
Speaker 11: Well, look, we'll give you a year and when we
Speaker 11: lead up to the twenty twenty six NFL Draft, we'll
Speaker 11: cut away to you. If you get to like eight hundred,
Speaker 11: we'll call it even.
Speaker 4: How's that sound like?
Speaker 7: Need some knee But I just got to get the
Speaker 7: right knee wraps. That's all I need.
Speaker 4: That's all right. We got twelve months to get it done.
Speaker 14: Lance.
Speaker 11: Always appreciate your insight, man, looking forward to more of it.
Speaker 4: In the last month leading up to the draft.
Speaker 11: Last year, the Bears had the ninth I had the
Speaker 11: first pick, but the Bears had the ninth pick was
Speaker 11: Roma Dunza along with Caleb Williams, who did the clothing.
Speaker 11: And everybody's like, we just came up with that. Now
Speaker 11: after one hundred plus years of the Bears, Yeah they did.
Speaker 11: They want to know who's next. So last year at nine,
Speaker 11: this year, at ten, Judy Batista back with me Mike
Speaker 11: Arrafolo to talk about her article up there on NFL
Speaker 11: dot com. Backslash Batista two teas well two and then one,
Speaker 11: so three total, but don't log on just yet. Hear
Speaker 11: what Judy has to say about the Bears and the
Speaker 11: potential for a turnaround, which is the topic of her article.
Speaker 10: Well full confession. They were also on the list last
Speaker 10: year as a turnaround Kennedy, and it didn't quite take
Speaker 10: off the way I anticipated, mostly because last year it
Speaker 10: was based all on Caleb Williams's presence. This year, I
Speaker 10: feel a lot better about it because they have finally
Speaker 10: done some things to help Caleb Williams. Namely, they really
Speaker 10: shored up the offensive line, particularly the interior of the
Speaker 10: offensive line. He was sacked sixty eight times last year,
Speaker 10: so the offensive line was a priority. They also did
Speaker 10: some work on the defensive line. They improved their pass
Speaker 10: rush too. I think one of the biggest things they
Speaker 10: did had nothing to do with free agency, though, was
Speaker 10: hiring Ben Johnson, a really creative play caller and play
Speaker 10: designer on offense and somebody who has already talked about
Speaker 10: spending a lot of time with Caleb Williams and sort
Speaker 10: of getting them on the same page.
Speaker 8: With each other.
Speaker 10: I think that's going to be really important for Caleb
Speaker 10: Williams development, and certainly having the offensive line in front
Speaker 10: of him. Will also help the running game, which Ben
Speaker 10: Johnson wants to emphasize as well. That will take some
Speaker 10: of the pressure off Caleb Williams as well. I think
Speaker 10: finally the pieces are in place to help Caleb Williams
Speaker 10: really elevate his game this season.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 11: The number one overall picking ca Ale Williams a year ago,
Speaker 11: Jade and Daniels no turnaround needed, came out of the
Speaker 11: gate hot with the Commanders. Drake may the number three
Speaker 11: overall pick. Let's go to New England and talk about
Speaker 11: the Patriots potential for a turnaround.
Speaker 10: Yeah, let's be clear, they were operating at a talent
Speaker 10: deficit in Foxborough last season. It's certainly contributed to Gerard
Speaker 10: Mayo's subpar performance and his exit after only one season
Speaker 10: as the head coach. First of all, they brought in
Speaker 10: Mike Rabel, who is an experienced head coach with experience
Speaker 10: and success, so that is a positive. And now they
Speaker 10: are starting to do things to help Drake Maye. Namely,
Speaker 10: they really invested a lot of money, especially on the
Speaker 10: defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 8: Milton Williams of course got the big contract Harold Landry.
Speaker 8: They really addressed every level of the defense. They needed
Speaker 8: to do that. Now what do they need to do?
Speaker 10: They need to put more pieces on the offense around
Speaker 10: Drake May. This has been an issue for a few
Speaker 10: years in New England. They don't have much offensive firepower.
Speaker 10: They've got to address that next. But certainly there is
Speaker 10: the possibility now for a few more wins for New England.
Speaker 10: I'm not saying they're going to challenge the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 10: for supremacy in the division, but you could certainly imagine
Speaker 10: the Patriots winning a lot more games than they did
Speaker 10: last season.
Speaker 11: All right, Judy, now do what Brown's general manager Andrew
Speaker 11: Berry was able to do for Miles Garrett, which is
Speaker 11: convinced him that a turnaround from twenty twenty four to
Speaker 11: twenty twenty five, that twenty five would look maybe more
Speaker 11: like twenty three for the Cleveland.
Speaker 10: Browns'sn't forget in twenty twenty three they went to the
Speaker 10: playoffs with a revolving door at quarterback. So you got
Speaker 10: to give some credit there to Kevin Stefanski. He was
Speaker 10: the coach of the Year that year. He has not,
Speaker 10: presumably forgotten how to coach since then. The big win
Speaker 10: for the Cleveland brown so far this offseason is convincing
Speaker 10: Miles Garrett, and certainly the gigantic contract help, but convincing
Speaker 10: him to stay and convincing him to believe that they
Speaker 10: have a plan going forward. Keeping somebody like Miles Garrett
Speaker 10: is an important signal to everybody else in the building,
Speaker 10: and it is also important to any other player who
Speaker 10: may be entering the building. What they need to do, obviously,
Speaker 10: is settle the quarterback situation. It is unsettled now, but
Speaker 10: they have some options. We know They've talked to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 10: They have the number two overall draft pick. We will
Speaker 10: see which way they go, but certainly better days should
Speaker 10: be ahead because Jashaun Watson did not perform well last season.
Speaker 10: We all know that if they get even marginally better
Speaker 10: quarterback played, they.
Speaker 8: Should be an improved team from what they were last year.
Speaker 11: One of their quarterbacks now with the Giants, Jamis Winston
Speaker 11: over there signing with that team.
Speaker 4: Head of the East Rutherford.
Speaker 11: The Browns still looking to make a couple of moves,
Speaker 11: likely at the quarterback position. Judy Batista NFL dot Com
Speaker 11: backslash Batista for her list of turnaround teams or at
Speaker 11: least candidates to do so in twenty twenty five, Jalen Milroe.
Speaker 11: I can't believe how fast he wren seeing is how
Speaker 11: he didn't run straight there. We're going to talk to
Speaker 11: his head coach at Alabama, Kaylin Dibor. He's going to
Speaker 11: join the show with me and Tom coming up next
Speaker 11: about Milroe's potential as well as a few other Alabama
Speaker 11: prospects that's coming up next to the Insiders.
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe certainly drew some eyeballs, and not just because
Speaker 2: of how he looks without a shirt on red an
Speaker 2: unofficial four point three seven forty yard dash at Alabama's
Speaker 2: pro day last week. One of the top quarterback prospects
Speaker 2: in this year's draft, just one of the top prospects
Speaker 2: as usual coming from the Crimson Tide. Tyler Booker, Gihad
Speaker 2: Campbell also among the highly rated players going into this draft.
Speaker 2: Where please be joined right now by their head football coach,
Speaker 2: Kaylen Debor joining us here on the Insiders, Tom Pilicero
Speaker 2: and Mike Garofolo coach A lot to get into you
Speaker 2: with you here, but I want to start with the
Speaker 2: really important thing. Shirtless quarterback forties. Are you in or
Speaker 2: are you out?
Speaker 16: When you said that I was then just now when
Speaker 16: it's Jalen Milroe, I think you have to be all
Speaker 16: in so h the guy is rocked up. You know,
Speaker 16: he's impressive and always Uh. I'm glad he ran the
Speaker 16: time he did, so it was a good day for him.
Speaker 11: Shirtless forties, yes, shirtless interviews no no, No, for us too?
Speaker 4: Is what's where I'm going?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 17: Milroe with that forty time of four to three seven?
Speaker 11: Uh, tell us the feedback that you got from NFL
Speaker 11: evaluators on hand, what you've told them as they've done
Speaker 11: their work on Jalen.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's it's continued to continues to be
Speaker 16: more of the same. Ball comes off his hand really
Speaker 16: well and and uh.
Speaker 14: You know, uh he I thought he threw with a
Speaker 14: good accuracy.
Speaker 16: Again you can throw to all levels of the field
Speaker 16: and so just you know, the running piece I think
Speaker 16: speaks for ourself because there's so much that he's shown
Speaker 16: on film over the last couple of years. He's not
Speaker 16: just you know, running two guys. He's running through and
Speaker 16: I am. And so that really didn't surprise me as
Speaker 16: far as how he ran. But I think the other
Speaker 16: stuff it's just more verification you know, and elements and
Speaker 16: some things under center, you know, as I see the
Speaker 16: clips here, just stuff that maybe you didn't get a
Speaker 16: chance to see as much of.
Speaker 14: But he looked pretty comfortable.
Speaker 2: What about some of the off the field stuff, because
Speaker 2: obviously with quarterbacks you're digging into everything NFL team scouts, coaches.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're getting phone calls, you're talking to people
Speaker 2: at Pro Day when they're trying to figure out can
Speaker 2: we bet on Jalen Milroe? The face of the program,
Speaker 2: the face of the team, the dude everybody rallies around.
Speaker 1: What do you tell him?
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean he's been here at Alabama and he
Speaker 16: along with that, I think you have to handle expectations,
Speaker 16: and when you're the quarterback, it's.
Speaker 14: On another level. Here at Alabama.
Speaker 16: You know, he's he's had the highs and the lows,
Speaker 16: and he's had to stay the course and just continue
Speaker 16: to push through. And that's part of being a quarterback.
Speaker 16: And that's only going to continue to be that case
Speaker 16: at the NFL. And so you know, his personality just
Speaker 16: never waivers. He's you know, coming in super early. He's
Speaker 16: a guy that isn't afraid of the work in all
Speaker 16: areas whether it's you know, on the football field, in workouts,
Speaker 16: in the classroom, he just loves it. You know, the
Speaker 16: new challenges that come his way, he embraces it. You know,
Speaker 16: he's always looking to learn and he's got a growth
Speaker 16: mindset about him and so just really enjoyable to be around.
Speaker 11: You've got a bunch of other guys, no surprise with Alabama,
Speaker 11: but I do have one more on Milrod because there
Speaker 11: was another Jalen at Alabama just won the Super Bowl
Speaker 11: as a quarterback, and this being a copycat league, some
Speaker 11: folks are saying that skill set is very similar to
Speaker 11: what Jalen Hurts does at the NFL level.
Speaker 4: Do you see that?
Speaker 17: And have you had those conversations with NFL folks?
Speaker 14: Not to that extent.
Speaker 16: I'm really careful because you know, I know what I
Speaker 16: saw on film and remembered I actually played Jalen Hurts
Speaker 16: when I was at Fresno State in twenty seventeen, I
Speaker 16: think it was, and so so I'm up close in
Speaker 16: person do his thing as well. But I want to
Speaker 16: be really careful in the comparables, you know, because I think,
Speaker 16: you know, just talking to keep it more about Jalen
Speaker 16: Milroe and you know what I do know there, let
Speaker 16: everyone else kind of who's done all the homework over
Speaker 16: the last couple of years kind of figure that out
Speaker 16: and figures this translates to that or someone else you
Speaker 16: know that also is a you know, a quarterback that
Speaker 16: you know uses their legs and mobile and in that way.
Speaker 2: Tell me about Gad Campbell. Everybody thinks he's going to
Speaker 2: be drafted very high. Here, what's an NFL team getting
Speaker 2: in him?
Speaker 16: Well, the list you showed on the screen, there all
Speaker 16: five of those guys, and it'd be a broken record
Speaker 16: if we went one by one and talked about who
Speaker 16: these guys are as people. And Jahad is just like
Speaker 16: all of them and and some he's just a super
Speaker 16: super just great teammate herson just I mean, I loved
Speaker 16: seeing him walking in my office.
Speaker 14: I love seeing him on the football field. He's got
Speaker 14: a love.
Speaker 16: And passion for the game that just you know is
Speaker 16: kind of kind of like get to you know, kind
Speaker 16: of mindset, I get to do this?
Speaker 14: How great is it?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 16: And always an attitude and gratitude And you can see
Speaker 16: just the enjoyment he gets watching these clips.
Speaker 14: Here, the celebratory times.
Speaker 16: You know that he has, his teammates will rally to
Speaker 16: him because they're so happy form us because just that's
Speaker 16: who he is.
Speaker 14: And so the guy we knew he'd run well, just.
Speaker 16: Like he did at the Combine and just this last
Speaker 16: year he was a strong piece of our defense and
Speaker 16: continue to thrive throughout the season and then continue to
Speaker 16: get better.
Speaker 14: Was a lot of what he was doing.
Speaker 17: Brian Baldinger a big part of our show.
Speaker 11: And if I didn't ask about an offensive lineman here,
Speaker 11: he'd be extremely upset with me. So Tyler Booker twenty
Speaker 11: third overall and Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty prospects ideal, size, awareness, consistency,
Speaker 11: white base, firm base, everything you want to hear about
Speaker 11: an offensive lineman. How's DJ's analysis of Booker?
Speaker 16: There, this guy he's special, and uh, he's special because
Speaker 16: I always put it this way. He brings his a
Speaker 16: game every single day, and a game on the football field,
Speaker 16: but just as a.
Speaker 14: Leader, he's just elite that way.
Speaker 16: You know, he brings, he gets the best out of himself,
Speaker 16: and then he's going to make sure he brings up,
Speaker 16: brings others with him. And we talk about accountability. He
Speaker 16: was front and center with really leading the charge on
Speaker 16: that with our whole football team, not just his position
Speaker 16: group or his side of the ball.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 16: When when we uh had you know, times we were
Speaker 16: going through this season, you know, he was the guy
Speaker 16: that you always kind of look to, I think from
Speaker 16: the team standpoint to speak up, and when he did,
Speaker 16: guys listened. He means it, uh, and he lives it
Speaker 16: every single day. So I heard I heard an interview
Speaker 16: where it talked about Gunn of his mindset, you know,
Speaker 16: getting after defensive players and just you know, kind of
Speaker 16: taking the love.
Speaker 14: Out of football, out of their out of their heart.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 16: Uh that is true, Like that's the way he is
Speaker 16: every single day on the football field.
Speaker 2: Okay, when last time I saw you was down to
Speaker 2: Alabama Pro Day last year. You'd been on campus for
Speaker 2: like six weeks or something at that point. It was
Speaker 2: kind of frantic. He didn't even really know the guys
Speaker 2: were working out at Pro Day. But we talked a
Speaker 2: lot about Michael Pennix and where he was going to go,
Speaker 2: and there was a lot uncertainty about that. Did you
Speaker 2: get a chance after the season to go back and
Speaker 2: look at him and what do you think about him
Speaker 2: now going into his first full year as the Falcon starter.
Speaker 16: Yeah, just super fired up for him as a person
Speaker 16: because I know his journey and I felt strong about
Speaker 16: it translating to the NFL and what he could do
Speaker 16: on the football field, and I feel at this point,
Speaker 16: you know, we're spot on and he you know, got
Speaker 16: a chance to be around him after he'd done some
Speaker 16: OTAs and before they were into camp, and then you know,
Speaker 16: I just love how you know, he just took that
Speaker 16: patience and everything he learned, you know, throughout the year
Speaker 16: and applied it when he got his chance on the
Speaker 16: football field. Got a chance to see him play the
Speaker 16: last game of the season, and just you can see
Speaker 16: the momentum he's gaining, the momentum he's gaining with his teammates.
Speaker 14: Fired up to see a year two, you know for him.
Speaker 1: Caitlyn, thanks a ton for the time.
Speaker 2: No, it's a busy spring over there at Alabama, so
Speaker 2: appreciate you being here.
Speaker 14: Yeah, thank you for having me on roll time.
Speaker 2: One of the greatest moments for fans of one of
Speaker 2: the NFL's oldest franchises, the Washington Commanders, last year drafting
Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels number two overall and all he did
Speaker 2: was respond by reviving that franchise with a lot of
Speaker 2: help from Dan Quinn and the rest of the crew,
Speaker 2: making a deep playoff run that they hope to top
Speaker 2: this year. For now, Jadon Daniels hanging out with USC
Speaker 2: basketball star Juju Watkins having a nice conversation, at least
Speaker 2: until Jaden's mom, Rgina Jackson decided just to sneak in.
Speaker 1: Here in the middle. Judy, you're a mom.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come to you for the analysis of exactly
Speaker 2: what we just saw take place there?
Speaker 8: Can I pass?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 8: Guys are dads, you can. Yeah.
Speaker 10: I don't really understand what's happening here. I just want
Speaker 10: to say I love Juju though she's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I think you could.
Speaker 11: I think you can let them loose now, right, I
Speaker 11: mean I think I think we're where.
Speaker 4: We need to be professionally, right, I mean it's not
Speaker 4: gonna be. I don't know.
Speaker 17: I don't know, I don't know, I don't Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Just like when the producers make the both of you
Speaker 2: so uncomfortable that neither want of you wants to answer
Speaker 2: the question. I will point out she's not just his mom,
Speaker 2: she is also his agent, so making sure that she's
Speaker 2: taking care of the entire picture. We are back tomorrow
Speaker 2: seven pm, Easter tom Thank you for watching The Insiders.
Speaker 1: We will see it.