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Speaker 2: It mic be this guy cam Ward who just cut

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Speaker 2: it loose in his pro day on NFL Network, And

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Speaker 2: how did Ward feel about the workout and his conversations

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Speaker 2: with the Titans. Here from cam Ward himself as he

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Speaker 2: joins our guys in Miami. Aaron Rodgers pro day was

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Speaker 2: twenty years ago this month, and here we are still

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Speaker 2: talking about his next team. Will it be the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: cool that we don't even know about. We will tell

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Speaker 2: you the latest as Rogers Watch continues. Have already been

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Speaker 2: a lot of big moves around the NFL over the

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Speaker 2: past couple of weeks, So who could now be in

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Speaker 2: line for a turnaround in twenty twenty five. Judy Batista

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Speaker 2: will reveal her picks, but first she'll smile and nod

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Speaker 2: as I introduced the show Welcome Inside with the Insiders

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Speaker 2: alongside Judy and Ian Rappaport and my Gara follow I

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Speaker 2: am Tom Pelisserro. It is a big day, not because

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Speaker 2: we had cam Ward on the field, because today Marx

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Speaker 2: one month from the NFL Draft. That's right April twenty fourth,

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Speaker 2: in Green Bay. There's just a few of the faces

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Speaker 2: news at home that they have their new NFL team's

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Speaker 2: first name off the board. Well, it seems increasingly there's

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Speaker 2: a good chance it could be Miami quarterback cam Ward,

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Speaker 2: who was out on the field in front of a

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Speaker 2: ton of scouts and coaches earlier today, including some who

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Speaker 2: After the workout, cam Ward joined cam Wolf and Brian

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Speaker 3: Here joined with cam Ward off your pro day workout,

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Speaker 3: and you were just talking about how many Pro days

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Speaker 3: you watched going forward. When does it sink in that

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Speaker 4: I never really thought about it, honestly.

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Speaker 5: Uh, And I'm I'm just blessed to be in a

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Speaker 5: now for myself before my teammates, I've been blessing so

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Speaker 6: I was holding Sam Brown, you know what, doing the workout,

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Speaker 6: and you know, everybody makes this out to be a

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Speaker 6: Like you just I mean obviously you guys, you know,

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Speaker 7: Feel like this this is this is our routine?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is practice for us. That's why I've seen

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Speaker 5: like two or three reloads. We would get it right

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Speaker 5: back like like what we did at practice throughout the season.

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Speaker 4: So so if you.

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Speaker 5: Missed a throw or the receiver doesn't get there, they

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Speaker 5: the end of practice. So that's just always our mindsets

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Speaker 5: And I know I'm just surrounded by a great group

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Speaker 5: But you know, the script, it was a good script

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Speaker 5: had some motions on there, and I'm just going through

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Speaker 3: There was a throw that you did on the roll

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Speaker 7: What did you say to it?

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Speaker 5: I said, I'm solidifying it today.

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Speaker 4: They heard you.

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Speaker 7: I made sure they heard me.

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Speaker 3: So I guess off that tip. The Titans obviously have

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Speaker 3: They like you, they've had you in the building. What

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Speaker 5: I said, only showing them, but every really teams just

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Speaker 5: Let him know that I'm capable of it because the

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Speaker 5: the end of the day, you ain't gonna be perfect.

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Speaker 5: You always got stuff to get better.

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Speaker 2: At great interview there from Miami Pro Day, I will say,

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Speaker 2: and this is selfish here, if he does go number

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Speaker 2: one to the Titans, cam Wolf, who covers Tennessee a

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Speaker 2: lot for us constantly talking about cam Ward is going

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Speaker 2: to be a disaster for me to spit out the

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Speaker 9: Yeah, gim Ward should be confident now, first of all,

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Speaker 9: as far as where he slots in for from you know,

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Speaker 9: It does seem to me, based on the people I've

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Speaker 9: he is looking increasingly likely that cam Ward is the

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Speaker 4: It is not done.

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Speaker 9: People are not done with their evaluations. We don't even

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Speaker 9: have it in Trench Starter, haven't made the firm and

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Speaker 9: still going through the evaluation process that includes obviously this

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Speaker 7: The course of his pro day and before his pro day.

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Speaker 9: I'm told the Titans are also going to have private

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Speaker 9: To me, it seems likely as of now make the pick,

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Speaker 10: Well, whoever ends up picking first overall, whether it is

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Speaker 10: it certainly seems clear that cam Ward is he said

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Speaker 10: he was trying to solidify things. That he solidified things

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Speaker 10: to other programs. It's my alma mater. But one thing

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Speaker 10: was a natural leader really from the beginning. I mean,

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Speaker 10: He comes into the building, you know he's going to

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Speaker 10: And if you are the Tennessee Titans, or frankly, if

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Speaker 10: The skill is clear, you can see that, you can

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Speaker 10: the Tennessee Titans have what looks to be a multi

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Speaker 10: we saw Jaden Daniels do last year in Washington. That

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Speaker 11: You see that Giants logo there, Judy the number third

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Speaker 11: And the Giants were there in full force to evaluate Ward,

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Speaker 11: The Titans make that pick at number one overall, and

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Speaker 4: Again, likely is.

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Speaker 11: The word that I would use, because this is the draft.

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Speaker 11: Nobody ever tells you for sure, and even if they

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Speaker 11: up to draft day as well. So we don't know

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Speaker 11: more likely to select that make that selection at number one,

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Speaker 11: and it is going to be cam Ward.

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Speaker 4: We shall see still a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 11: Maybe somebody will blow their socks off with an offer

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Speaker 7: We'll see on the.

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Speaker 2: Time it's contingent is there at Miami. They also are

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Speaker 2: one of the teams continuing to await a firm and

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Speaker 2: final decision from one Aaron Rodgers, who at this point

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Speaker 2: has taken a visit to Pittsburgh. Everything went well on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Those teams have had those sides have had contract parameters

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Speaker 2: on Friday, certainly, though the Giants also remained involved at

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Speaker 2: All we know for sure, and Cam Heywardes make this

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Speaker 2: abundantly clear in multiple different venues, he would like a

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Speaker 12: You're talking about an urgency with a bunch of you know,

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Speaker 12: That's why Rogers is kind of a fit there if

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Speaker 12: you think about it, right, I mean like I don't

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Speaker 12: he does have left, but it would be similar to

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Speaker 4: Because you talked about.

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Speaker 2: Some differences in the backgrounds tonight, Mike coming to us

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Speaker 7: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: I thought, you.

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Speaker 7: Say, this is actually real.

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Speaker 14: And actually happen.

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Speaker 1: Trusted it.

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Speaker 9: I told Paps before the show that I would nail it,

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Speaker 7: Right, I'm sitting the screen. You yeah, I'm just saying,

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Speaker 2: I like the look on Pat's face when Ian said

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Speaker 9: You have funny and I had a great time. Those

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Speaker 7: It was awesome. I just have one.

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Speaker 2: Very impressive, just like you put yourself on the Whedi's

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Speaker 1: We all love more of this show. The Insiders still

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams got some new friends, including along the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: It's the Insiders Big Day April fourth in Boulder. That

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Speaker 2: NFL Network April fourth, two thirty pm Eastern Time.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pilli, Cerah, Mike.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's Travis Hunter. I mean, there's no doubt. This

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Speaker 15: I don't care if the ball's in his hands as

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Speaker 15: a quarterback, if he's leaving the pocket as a runner.

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Speaker 15: I know the NFL teams I talk to, they're very

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Speaker 15: excited about him because he can do things that other

445
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Speaker 15: quarterbacks can't do in this draft. But he can also

446
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Speaker 15: do some things that other playmakers can't do. So what

447
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Speaker 15: you're looking at as a very versatile playmaker when he

448
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Speaker 15: comes in the game. He's a threat to hit a

449
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Speaker 15: home run on you at any point. Now, where are

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Speaker 15: you gonna line him up? Are you gonna line him

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Speaker 15: up as a wildcat quarterback? Is he going to take

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Speaker 15: snaps you know, as a triple option quarterback? Is he

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Speaker 15: going to be a standard quarterback when he comes to

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Speaker 15: the Is he going to line up somewhere in a slot?

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Speaker 15: And now you don't know what to do with a

456
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Speaker 15: guy like Jylen Milross. So I think he's a very

457
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Speaker 15: versatile player because he's such an explosive athlete, and I

458
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Speaker 15: think the right team could really set him up for

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Speaker 15: success early in his career as they develop the quarterback

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Speaker 15: part of who he's going to be as an NFL player.

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Speaker 2: I was flipping over the R side of the ball here.

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Speaker 2: Lance tell me about the versatility of Jalen Walker.

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Speaker 7: Well, so, Jalen Walker.

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Speaker 15: It's tricky with Jalen Walker because some teams believe that

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Speaker 15: he hasn't shown enough instincts to be a full time linebacker.

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Speaker 15: But I think it's just a matter of time He's

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Speaker 15: going to be a full time linebacker. What he does

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Speaker 15: well though, right now, is rush the quarterback. He's an

469
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Speaker 15: extremely instinctive pass rusher. Now when you look at him,

470
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Speaker 15: you can tell he doesn't have the size of a

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Speaker 15: standard three to four outside linebacker. He doesn't look like

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Speaker 15: a quote unquote edge player. But I think that's a benefit.

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Speaker 15: In the past you might label him a tweiner. I

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Speaker 15: call him a hybrid player now, and a hybrid player

475
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Speaker 15: has a much more positive connotation. I think he's going

476
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Speaker 15: to get better in terms of recognizing run plays and

477
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Speaker 15: blocking schemes as a linebacker. But right now, what he

478
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Speaker 15: can do right off the rip is going to be

479
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Speaker 15: go out and get the quarterback. He can get into

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Speaker 15: the pocket and cause mayhem, and he can do it

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Speaker 15: either off the edge or is a blitzing linebacker from

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Speaker 15: a variety of alignments. So I love that versatility because

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Speaker 15: you can align him in a lot of different places

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Speaker 15: and he can cause havoc from multiple spots along the

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Speaker 15: defensive front.

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Speaker 7: That's versatility on defense for me.

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Speaker 11: Lan's talk to me about JJ Pegee from Old Miss.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I love JJ Pegee. So they used him. You know,

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Speaker 15: it's funny when he went to Auburn. Initially they used

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Speaker 15: him in a in a direct snap capacity. Then Ole

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Speaker 15: Miss said, you know what, let's do the same thing.

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Speaker 15: But what helps him stand out right away as things

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Speaker 15: like this. On defense, He's got really special athleticism, quick feet,

494
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Speaker 15: good spin move, he has rare change of direction for

495
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Speaker 15: being three hundred and nine pounds. He is really, really

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Speaker 15: tough once he gets in the backfield. And I like

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Speaker 15: the fact that he can play all over the defensive line.

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Speaker 15: He can play a three to four and he can

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Speaker 15: play a four to three defensive tackle. They line him

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Speaker 15: up on the nose at times, but the versatility doesn't

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Speaker 15: stop with the lignement. Let's take him to the offensive

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Speaker 15: side of the ball. On direct snaps, this guy is

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Speaker 15: a monster. He finishes first downs at an unbelievable rate.

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Speaker 15: Like every direct snap ends up in a first down

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Speaker 15: or a touchdown, very rarely stopped. I think I counted

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Speaker 15: him stopped one time. In twenty six carries. Twenty six carries,

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Speaker 15: I think there were twenty five either first downs or

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Speaker 15: touchdowns when he ran the ball.

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Speaker 7: And if you're a team on offense, you got the

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Speaker 7: tush push, the brotherly shove.

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Speaker 15: Well, I'm getting j I'm getting the JJ payday because

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Speaker 15: I'm giving the big man the ball and I'm gonna

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Speaker 15: go let him eat right there at the one yard

514
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Speaker 15: line as well, So try to stop that. It's tough

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Speaker 15: stopping a guy who can squat six hundred pounds a quarterback.

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Speaker 15: It's going to be hard stopping a guy like JJ

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Speaker 15: Pageese as well.

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Speaker 14: Well.

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Speaker 11: I mean, the whole time I'm watching that, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 11: who's strong enough to push that bush? And maybe, just

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Speaker 11: maybe it would be Jalen Hurts who.

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Speaker 4: Did the old squad of six I yuess you.

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Speaker 11: Just mentioned it, So maybe they reverse the roles or

524
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Speaker 11: maybe you don't know which one you're gonna get there.

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Speaker 11: You're gonna get pig East pushing, You're gonna get Jalen pushing.

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Speaker 11: That was his squad from wayback, which was topped by

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Speaker 11: Dat and Win from Iowa or yeah, mine from Island Western.

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Speaker 4: This is eight hundred and.

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Speaker 8: Five pounds less.

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Speaker 4: That's like six of you.

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Speaker 7: Oh my, that's incredible.

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Speaker 11: And he did it so easily, like there was no

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Speaker 11: struggle on the way up.

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Speaker 7: It's like joking. Look at that. They've got straps on

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Speaker 7: the weights to keep them on.

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Speaker 15: I haven't done something like that for at least fifteen years,

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Speaker 15: so it's been a long time since I've been able

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Speaker 15: to squad eight oh five. So you know, props to

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Speaker 15: dad Win. That's really really tough to do. Trust me.

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Speaker 11: Well, look, we'll give you a year and when we

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Speaker 11: lead up to the twenty twenty six NFL Draft, we'll

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Speaker 11: cut away to you. If you get to like eight hundred,

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Speaker 11: we'll call it even.

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Speaker 4: How's that sound like?

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Speaker 7: Need some knee But I just got to get the

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Speaker 7: right knee wraps. That's all I need.

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Speaker 4: That's all right. We got twelve months to get it done.

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Speaker 14: Lance.

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Speaker 11: Always appreciate your insight, man, looking forward to more of it.

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Speaker 4: In the last month leading up to the draft.

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Speaker 11: Last year, the Bears had the ninth I had the

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Speaker 11: first pick, but the Bears had the ninth pick was

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Speaker 11: Roma Dunza along with Caleb Williams, who did the clothing.

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Speaker 11: And everybody's like, we just came up with that. Now

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Speaker 11: after one hundred plus years of the Bears, Yeah they did.

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Speaker 11: They want to know who's next. So last year at nine,

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Speaker 11: this year, at ten, Judy Batista back with me Mike

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Speaker 11: Arrafolo to talk about her article up there on NFL

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Speaker 11: dot com. Backslash Batista two teas well two and then one,

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Speaker 11: so three total, but don't log on just yet. Hear

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Speaker 11: what Judy has to say about the Bears and the

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Speaker 11: potential for a turnaround, which is the topic of her article.

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Speaker 10: Well full confession. They were also on the list last

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Speaker 10: year as a turnaround Kennedy, and it didn't quite take

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Speaker 10: off the way I anticipated, mostly because last year it

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Speaker 10: was based all on Caleb Williams's presence. This year, I

567
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Speaker 10: feel a lot better about it because they have finally

568
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Speaker 10: done some things to help Caleb Williams. Namely, they really

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Speaker 10: shored up the offensive line, particularly the interior of the

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Speaker 10: offensive line. He was sacked sixty eight times last year,

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Speaker 10: so the offensive line was a priority. They also did

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Speaker 10: some work on the defensive line. They improved their pass

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Speaker 10: rush too. I think one of the biggest things they

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Speaker 10: did had nothing to do with free agency, though, was

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Speaker 10: hiring Ben Johnson, a really creative play caller and play

576
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Speaker 10: designer on offense and somebody who has already talked about

577
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Speaker 10: spending a lot of time with Caleb Williams and sort

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Speaker 10: of getting them on the same page.

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Speaker 8: With each other.

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Speaker 10: I think that's going to be really important for Caleb

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Speaker 10: Williams development, and certainly having the offensive line in front

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Speaker 10: of him. Will also help the running game, which Ben

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Speaker 10: Johnson wants to emphasize as well. That will take some

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Speaker 10: of the pressure off Caleb Williams as well. I think

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Speaker 10: finally the pieces are in place to help Caleb Williams

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Speaker 10: really elevate his game this season.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: The number one overall picking ca Ale Williams a year ago,

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Speaker 11: Jade and Daniels no turnaround needed, came out of the

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Speaker 11: gate hot with the Commanders. Drake may the number three

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Speaker 11: overall pick. Let's go to New England and talk about

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Speaker 11: the Patriots potential for a turnaround.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, let's be clear, they were operating at a talent

594
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Speaker 10: deficit in Foxborough last season. It's certainly contributed to Gerard

595
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Speaker 10: Mayo's subpar performance and his exit after only one season

596
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Speaker 10: as the head coach. First of all, they brought in

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Speaker 10: Mike Rabel, who is an experienced head coach with experience

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Speaker 10: and success, so that is a positive. And now they

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Speaker 10: are starting to do things to help Drake Maye. Namely,

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Speaker 10: they really invested a lot of money, especially on the

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Speaker 10: defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 8: Milton Williams of course got the big contract Harold Landry.

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Speaker 8: They really addressed every level of the defense. They needed

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Speaker 8: to do that. Now what do they need to do?

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Speaker 10: They need to put more pieces on the offense around

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Speaker 10: Drake May. This has been an issue for a few

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Speaker 10: years in New England. They don't have much offensive firepower.

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Speaker 10: They've got to address that next. But certainly there is

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Speaker 10: the possibility now for a few more wins for New England.

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Speaker 10: I'm not saying they're going to challenge the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 10: for supremacy in the division, but you could certainly imagine

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Speaker 10: the Patriots winning a lot more games than they did

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Speaker 10: last season.

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Speaker 11: All right, Judy, now do what Brown's general manager Andrew

615
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Speaker 11: Berry was able to do for Miles Garrett, which is

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Speaker 11: convinced him that a turnaround from twenty twenty four to

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty five, that twenty five would look maybe more

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Speaker 11: like twenty three for the Cleveland.

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Speaker 10: Browns'sn't forget in twenty twenty three they went to the

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Speaker 10: playoffs with a revolving door at quarterback. So you got

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Speaker 10: to give some credit there to Kevin Stefanski. He was

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Speaker 10: the coach of the Year that year. He has not,

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Speaker 10: presumably forgotten how to coach since then. The big win

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Speaker 10: for the Cleveland brown so far this offseason is convincing

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Speaker 10: Miles Garrett, and certainly the gigantic contract help, but convincing

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Speaker 10: him to stay and convincing him to believe that they

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Speaker 10: have a plan going forward. Keeping somebody like Miles Garrett

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Speaker 10: is an important signal to everybody else in the building,

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Speaker 10: and it is also important to any other player who

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Speaker 10: may be entering the building. What they need to do, obviously,

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Speaker 10: is settle the quarterback situation. It is unsettled now, but

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Speaker 10: they have some options. We know They've talked to Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 10: They have the number two overall draft pick. We will

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Speaker 10: see which way they go, but certainly better days should

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Speaker 10: be ahead because Jashaun Watson did not perform well last season.

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Speaker 10: We all know that if they get even marginally better

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Speaker 10: quarterback played, they.

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Speaker 8: Should be an improved team from what they were last year.

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Speaker 11: One of their quarterbacks now with the Giants, Jamis Winston

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Speaker 11: over there signing with that team.

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Speaker 4: Head of the East Rutherford.

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Speaker 11: The Browns still looking to make a couple of moves,

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Speaker 11: likely at the quarterback position. Judy Batista NFL dot Com

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Speaker 11: backslash Batista for her list of turnaround teams or at

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Speaker 11: least candidates to do so in twenty twenty five, Jalen Milroe.

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Speaker 11: I can't believe how fast he wren seeing is how

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Speaker 11: he didn't run straight there. We're going to talk to

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Speaker 11: his head coach at Alabama, Kaylin Dibor. He's going to

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Speaker 11: join the show with me and Tom coming up next

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Speaker 11: about Milroe's potential as well as a few other Alabama

651
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Speaker 11: prospects that's coming up next to the Insiders.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe certainly drew some eyeballs, and not just because

653
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Speaker 2: of how he looks without a shirt on red an

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Speaker 2: unofficial four point three seven forty yard dash at Alabama's

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Speaker 2: pro day last week. One of the top quarterback prospects

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Speaker 2: in this year's draft, just one of the top prospects

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Speaker 2: as usual coming from the Crimson Tide. Tyler Booker, Gihad

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Speaker 2: Campbell also among the highly rated players going into this draft.

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Speaker 2: Where please be joined right now by their head football coach,

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Speaker 2: Kaylen Debor joining us here on the Insiders, Tom Pilicero

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Speaker 2: and Mike Garofolo coach A lot to get into you

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Speaker 2: with you here, but I want to start with the

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Speaker 2: really important thing. Shirtless quarterback forties. Are you in or

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Speaker 2: are you out?

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Speaker 16: When you said that I was then just now when

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Speaker 16: it's Jalen Milroe, I think you have to be all

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Speaker 16: in so h the guy is rocked up. You know,

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Speaker 16: he's impressive and always Uh. I'm glad he ran the

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Speaker 16: time he did, so it was a good day for him.

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Speaker 11: Shirtless forties, yes, shirtless interviews no no, No, for us too?

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Speaker 4: Is what's where I'm going?

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Speaker 13: Right?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 17: Milroe with that forty time of four to three seven?

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Speaker 11: Uh, tell us the feedback that you got from NFL

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Speaker 11: evaluators on hand, what you've told them as they've done

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Speaker 11: their work on Jalen.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it's it's continued to continues to be

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Speaker 16: more of the same. Ball comes off his hand really

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Speaker 16: well and and uh.

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Speaker 14: You know, uh he I thought he threw with a

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Speaker 14: good accuracy.

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Speaker 16: Again you can throw to all levels of the field

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Speaker 16: and so just you know, the running piece I think

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Speaker 16: speaks for ourself because there's so much that he's shown

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Speaker 16: on film over the last couple of years. He's not

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Speaker 16: just you know, running two guys. He's running through and

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Speaker 16: I am. And so that really didn't surprise me as

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Speaker 16: far as how he ran. But I think the other

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Speaker 16: stuff it's just more verification you know, and elements and

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Speaker 16: some things under center, you know, as I see the

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Speaker 16: clips here, just stuff that maybe you didn't get a

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Speaker 16: chance to see as much of.

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Speaker 14: But he looked pretty comfortable.

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Speaker 2: What about some of the off the field stuff, because

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Speaker 2: obviously with quarterbacks you're digging into everything NFL team scouts, coaches.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're getting phone calls, you're talking to people

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Speaker 2: at Pro Day when they're trying to figure out can

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Speaker 2: we bet on Jalen Milroe? The face of the program,

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Speaker 2: the face of the team, the dude everybody rallies around.

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Speaker 1: What do you tell him?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean he's been here at Alabama and he

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Speaker 16: along with that, I think you have to handle expectations,

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Speaker 16: and when you're the quarterback, it's.

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Speaker 14: On another level. Here at Alabama.

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Speaker 16: You know, he's he's had the highs and the lows,

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Speaker 16: and he's had to stay the course and just continue

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Speaker 16: to push through. And that's part of being a quarterback.

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Speaker 16: And that's only going to continue to be that case

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Speaker 16: at the NFL. And so you know, his personality just

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Speaker 16: never waivers. He's you know, coming in super early. He's

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Speaker 16: a guy that isn't afraid of the work in all

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Speaker 16: areas whether it's you know, on the football field, in workouts,

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Speaker 16: in the classroom, he just loves it. You know, the

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Speaker 16: new challenges that come his way, he embraces it. You know,

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Speaker 16: he's always looking to learn and he's got a growth

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Speaker 16: mindset about him and so just really enjoyable to be around.

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Speaker 11: You've got a bunch of other guys, no surprise with Alabama,

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Speaker 11: but I do have one more on Milrod because there

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Speaker 11: was another Jalen at Alabama just won the Super Bowl

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Speaker 11: as a quarterback, and this being a copycat league, some

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Speaker 11: folks are saying that skill set is very similar to

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Speaker 11: what Jalen Hurts does at the NFL level.

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Speaker 4: Do you see that?

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Speaker 17: And have you had those conversations with NFL folks?

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Speaker 14: Not to that extent.

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Speaker 16: I'm really careful because you know, I know what I

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Speaker 16: saw on film and remembered I actually played Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 16: when I was at Fresno State in twenty seventeen, I

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Speaker 16: think it was, and so so I'm up close in

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Speaker 16: person do his thing as well. But I want to

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Speaker 16: be really careful in the comparables, you know, because I think,

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Speaker 16: you know, just talking to keep it more about Jalen

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Speaker 16: Milroe and you know what I do know there, let

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Speaker 16: everyone else kind of who's done all the homework over

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Speaker 16: the last couple of years kind of figure that out

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Speaker 16: and figures this translates to that or someone else you

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Speaker 16: know that also is a you know, a quarterback that

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Speaker 16: you know uses their legs and mobile and in that way.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about Gad Campbell. Everybody thinks he's going to

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Speaker 2: be drafted very high. Here, what's an NFL team getting

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Speaker 2: in him?

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Speaker 16: Well, the list you showed on the screen, there all

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Speaker 16: five of those guys, and it'd be a broken record

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Speaker 16: if we went one by one and talked about who

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Speaker 16: these guys are as people. And Jahad is just like

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Speaker 16: all of them and and some he's just a super

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Speaker 16: super just great teammate herson just I mean, I loved

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Speaker 16: seeing him walking in my office.

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Speaker 14: I love seeing him on the football field. He's got

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Speaker 14: a love.

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Speaker 16: And passion for the game that just you know is

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Speaker 16: kind of kind of like get to you know, kind

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Speaker 16: of mindset, I get to do this?

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Speaker 14: How great is it?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 16: And always an attitude and gratitude And you can see

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Speaker 16: just the enjoyment he gets watching these clips.

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Speaker 14: Here, the celebratory times.

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Speaker 16: You know that he has, his teammates will rally to

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Speaker 16: him because they're so happy form us because just that's

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Speaker 16: who he is.

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Speaker 14: And so the guy we knew he'd run well, just.

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Speaker 16: Like he did at the Combine and just this last

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Speaker 16: year he was a strong piece of our defense and

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Speaker 16: continue to thrive throughout the season and then continue to

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Speaker 16: get better.

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Speaker 14: Was a lot of what he was doing.

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Speaker 17: Brian Baldinger a big part of our show.

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Speaker 11: And if I didn't ask about an offensive lineman here,

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Speaker 11: he'd be extremely upset with me. So Tyler Booker twenty

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Speaker 11: third overall and Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty prospects ideal, size, awareness, consistency,

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Speaker 11: white base, firm base, everything you want to hear about

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Speaker 11: an offensive lineman. How's DJ's analysis of Booker?

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Speaker 16: There, this guy he's special, and uh, he's special because

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Speaker 16: I always put it this way. He brings his a

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Speaker 16: game every single day, and a game on the football field,

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Speaker 16: but just as a.

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Speaker 14: Leader, he's just elite that way.

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Speaker 16: You know, he brings, he gets the best out of himself,

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Speaker 16: and then he's going to make sure he brings up,

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Speaker 16: brings others with him. And we talk about accountability. He

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Speaker 16: was front and center with really leading the charge on

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Speaker 16: that with our whole football team, not just his position

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Speaker 16: group or his side of the ball.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 16: When when we uh had you know, times we were

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Speaker 16: going through this season, you know, he was the guy

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Speaker 16: that you always kind of look to, I think from

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Speaker 16: the team standpoint to speak up, and when he did,

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Speaker 16: guys listened. He means it, uh, and he lives it

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Speaker 16: every single day. So I heard I heard an interview

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Speaker 16: where it talked about Gunn of his mindset, you know,

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Speaker 16: getting after defensive players and just you know, kind of

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Speaker 16: taking the love.

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Speaker 14: Out of football, out of their out of their heart.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 16: Uh that is true, Like that's the way he is

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Speaker 16: every single day on the football field.

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Speaker 2: Okay, when last time I saw you was down to

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Speaker 2: Alabama Pro Day last year. You'd been on campus for

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Speaker 2: like six weeks or something at that point. It was

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Speaker 2: kind of frantic. He didn't even really know the guys

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Speaker 2: were working out at Pro Day. But we talked a

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Speaker 2: lot about Michael Pennix and where he was going to go,

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Speaker 2: and there was a lot uncertainty about that. Did you

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Speaker 2: get a chance after the season to go back and

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Speaker 2: look at him and what do you think about him

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Speaker 2: now going into his first full year as the Falcon starter.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, just super fired up for him as a person

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Speaker 16: because I know his journey and I felt strong about

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Speaker 16: it translating to the NFL and what he could do

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Speaker 16: on the football field, and I feel at this point,

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Speaker 16: you know, we're spot on and he you know, got

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Speaker 16: a chance to be around him after he'd done some

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Speaker 16: OTAs and before they were into camp, and then you know,

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Speaker 16: I just love how you know, he just took that

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Speaker 16: patience and everything he learned, you know, throughout the year

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Speaker 16: and applied it when he got his chance on the

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Speaker 16: football field. Got a chance to see him play the

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Speaker 16: last game of the season, and just you can see

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Speaker 16: the momentum he's gaining, the momentum he's gaining with his teammates.

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Speaker 14: Fired up to see a year two, you know for him.

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn, thanks a ton for the time.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a busy spring over there at Alabama, so

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Speaker 2: appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, thank you for having me on roll time.

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Speaker 2: One of the greatest moments for fans of one of

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Speaker 2: the NFL's oldest franchises, the Washington Commanders, last year drafting

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Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels number two overall and all he did

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Speaker 2: was respond by reviving that franchise with a lot of

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Speaker 2: help from Dan Quinn and the rest of the crew,

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Speaker 2: making a deep playoff run that they hope to top

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Speaker 2: this year. For now, Jadon Daniels hanging out with USC

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Speaker 2: basketball star Juju Watkins having a nice conversation, at least

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Speaker 2: until Jaden's mom, Rgina Jackson decided just to sneak in.

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Speaker 1: Here in the middle. Judy, you're a mom.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna come to you for the analysis of exactly

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Speaker 2: what we just saw take place there?

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Speaker 8: Can I pass?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 8: Guys are dads, you can. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I don't really understand what's happening here. I just want

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Speaker 10: to say I love Juju though she's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I think you could.

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Speaker 11: I think you can let them loose now, right, I

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Speaker 11: mean I think I think we're where.

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Speaker 4: We need to be professionally, right, I mean it's not

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Speaker 4: gonna be. I don't know.

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Speaker 17: I don't know, I don't know, I don't Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Just like when the producers make the both of you

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Speaker 2: so uncomfortable that neither want of you wants to answer

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Speaker 2: the question. I will point out she's not just his mom,

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Speaker 2: she is also his agent, so making sure that she's

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Speaker 2: taking care of the entire picture. We are back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: seven pm, Easter tom Thank you for watching The Insiders.

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Speaker 1: We will see it.