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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Mediamash,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders dropping wisdom and offerings on

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Speaker 1: the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host

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Speaker 1: New East Scruggs Wednesday, Mediamash. Yeah, we are loaded for Bear,

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, beat writer for Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Jane

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Speaker 1: Slater of NFL Media, Clarence Hill foot or Star Telegram,

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Speaker 1: longest temure beat writer here in the markette. I am

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Speaker 1: merely knew his Scruggs here to go ahead and transfer

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Speaker 1: the conversation. And Ezekiel Elliott is a topic conversation I

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring up because I was going through the

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Speaker 1: car washing and the guy had a whole lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: We I said, you know what, if you watch media mash,

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Speaker 1: I got outstanding people. They're gonna be answered that question

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Speaker 1: for you about Zeke's availability. At three twenty five when

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys his head onto Green Bay beat writer the

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Speaker 1: originator none greater, go ahead, start us all. No. I

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Speaker 1: was just laughing. I was like, he was asking about Zeke.

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Speaker 1: That was nobody else, Nobody like not on the team.

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Speaker 1: He was asking about zeke fantasy. You know, you know

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Speaker 1: you can tell when they got the fantasy questions for themselves.

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Speaker 1: So that's good. That's good. I didn't know there was

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Speaker 1: other topics going on right now. I will get to

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Speaker 1: the rest of it. It's a lot to unpack today,

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Speaker 1: a lot. That's why you got here. So let's start

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Speaker 1: with twenty one before we dive into the other rabbit holes. Huh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought it was interesting what he said.

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Speaker 1: He was he's kind of he was sounding like he

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Speaker 1: was playing the game a little bit. Usually it was Zeke.

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Speaker 1: He'll just kind of say what it is, and he

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Speaker 1: I think for him, it's more what has he done,

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Speaker 1: which is practice, as opposed to what he's saying, Because

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Speaker 1: if you just listen to him and kind of sound

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, maybe, but he did say practice

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Speaker 1: and did more. I'm leaning towards him playing. But I

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Speaker 1: think he's kind of playing the game. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And Clarence, you and I were there where we were

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Speaker 1: kind of walking off with them because when I and

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Speaker 1: when we initially talked to him in the scrum, to

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Speaker 1: the sense that it sounded like I'm practicing, I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: a little bit better than last week. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: wear a lighter brace if I do play versus last year.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see how it goes because I've got to

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Speaker 1: be here for the end of the season. So then

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Speaker 1: it kind of sounded like he was tempering it. So

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Speaker 1: then he walked off in Clarence and I kind of

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Speaker 1: looks like you're playing. He goes. I think the direct

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Speaker 1: quote was the plan is to go. He said he

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Speaker 1: did a lot of work with the underwater treadmill and

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Speaker 1: apply to ice to it. But I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling as definitive because to your point, I don't

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Speaker 1: maybe it to me it felt a little bit more uncertain,

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Speaker 1: it feels on Saturday. I think both of you are correct,

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Speaker 1: and I think that there's a couple of things that

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Speaker 1: work last year. For example, you know how the team

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Speaker 1: there's no question about that. The plan is to play.

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Speaker 1: It's been plays this the beginning of the week. He

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Speaker 1: and ten. So those are considerations. Let me piggyback on

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Speaker 1: What I brought up on the players longs previously. If

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, you do have these three games and twelve

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Speaker 1: they you know, finished that Thanksgiving Day game. I always

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Speaker 1: big deal. It's something that can consider. But but again,

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Speaker 1: the following week, when you're talking about a potential seven

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Speaker 1: And I think he's going to do everything he possibly

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Speaker 1: And so I don't think any other situation, and not

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Speaker 1: and I hear the personal motivation. And Mike talked about

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Speaker 1: Talking to Micah, the players want to win this game,

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Speaker 1: host Mark Elfenbein used to say, you can finagle the

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Speaker 1: bagel as it relates to guaranteed money and that contract

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Speaker 1: as opposed to giving up what they consider of real

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Speaker 1: value around here, which is their draft picks. Now, Nick

429
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Speaker 1: had a great point he made on his podcast earlier today,

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Speaker 1: that multi year deal and all, by the way, is

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Speaker 1: anybody looked at how many free agents they have after

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Speaker 1: this seasons? The boatload? Again? Yeah, and that's that's all

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And again I agree with everything you said.

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Speaker 1: I think I think there's where they're smoked. There's fire,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think this thing could really happen.

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Speaker 1: I really do, UM. But but what I do think

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Speaker 1: the reason why I think it's caused it would cause

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Speaker 1: some issues is first of all, they got to see

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Speaker 1: the knee. They got to check this out and see

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Speaker 1: what they're dealing with. But also it's going to force

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Speaker 1: them to make some decisions on players, probably before they

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Speaker 1: really want to. UM. And you could argue whether or

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Speaker 1: not that would really happen, but I just think you

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Speaker 1: bring him in on a multi year deal, then I think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what does this mean for CD? What are we doing

446
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Speaker 1: with CD? We gotta make it. We gotta figure out

447
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Speaker 1: what his fifth year option is coming up. I think

448
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Speaker 1: next year. I think they gotta figure that out next year.

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Speaker 1: They just signed Gallup Pollards a free agent. The whole

450
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Speaker 1: digs is coming and Andy Brown and then Jack So

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying they have a lot of issues with

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Speaker 1: the cap and but but then they also have to

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Speaker 1: figure out do we care? And they always do. The

454
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Speaker 1: fans don't want to hear that. The fans are like,

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Speaker 1: go for it. Jerry's window has been closing for a

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Speaker 1: long time. And if you feel like this team go

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Speaker 1: for it, specifically the way that this team plays defensively,

458
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Speaker 1: if you can get that one extra piece, Like look

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Speaker 1: what Amory Cooper did for this offense. I mean when

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Speaker 1: they were doing wide receiver by committee, it was it

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Speaker 1: was tough to watch, and then he sort of changed

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Speaker 1: trajectory of that room. We're talking about three one thousand

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Speaker 1: yard receivers. And as I asked Michael Gallup, he was

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Speaker 1: a He said he loved the idea of it because

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Speaker 1: he brings He's like, that's a future Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: like a Maury Cooper, Like they've kind of been missing

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Speaker 1: that a Maury Cooper is what it felt like, and

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Speaker 1: he says it raises the level of competition. But I

469
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Speaker 1: also I loved his vulnerability when he said, I'm just

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Speaker 1: waiting for me to pop off, you know, because I

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Speaker 1: think his his returns going a little bit slower than

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Speaker 1: he even anticipated, and it'll come, I think for Michael,

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Speaker 1: future hall of Famer. No he's not is what is what? Michael?

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Speaker 1: He hasn't done enough. I mean it's a shame he

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Speaker 1: was on that trajectory. It's like Daz was who O

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Speaker 1: b J. Yeah he want a Super Bowl? No he

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Speaker 1: asked he was a future Hall of Famer. You don't

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Speaker 1: think he is. That's an interesting topic. No, I think

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Speaker 1: he ain't done enough. I think his gloves that made

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Speaker 1: the catch. Who are going to be off in a

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Speaker 1: little wing off there and they'll do that. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that you get in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Want to kids, No getting hall

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Speaker 1: of fame. I'm saying like maybe the picture, yeah, the picture? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, what I'll do is back and then

486
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Speaker 1: that's the shame about it, because four hundred yards fifty

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Speaker 1: six career touchdown him. I'm just looking up Jame Stock

488
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Speaker 1: looking up what he does not a Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: I think a Super Bowl puts every player in conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If he wins a Super Bowl with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: then as a back at the number two receiver. No,

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Speaker 1: he has three Pro Bowls on his resume. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's not getting listen. I love him as a player.

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Speaker 1: He was great coming out, but you have to continue

495
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Speaker 1: to do it the great way. And to think about

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Speaker 1: the receiver is there, there's a bunch of them. Look

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Speaker 1: at all the numbers. Look with Isaac Bruce and I

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Speaker 1: mean there's a receiver would you put over No, Okay,

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Speaker 1: then you're not getting in the room. Jane with three

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Speaker 1: Pro bowls? And my question is in this era, then

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Speaker 1: who would you put over him? Uh? The dude, the

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Speaker 1: dude in Arizona, Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin, Uh, both the dude

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, Hopkins, Podcaskins. Yeah, Andre Johnson. I mean you

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Speaker 1: got there's a lot of people that were gonna put

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Speaker 1: over because he didn't put up. He is a great talent.

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Speaker 1: That's the probably be great talent. He doesn't have the numbers.

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Speaker 1: I think his likability also helps with the voters here,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's likable with the voters. He

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Speaker 1: like it with the social media. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: this I know the voters, I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: likable with the voters. You know, with all the authors

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Speaker 1: Field drama. But listen, I'm not trying to do this

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Speaker 1: is Listen. He is a guy who can help the cowboys.

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Speaker 1: The question remains, how do you get that done for

515
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Speaker 1: a guy who wants a multi year deal? He talked

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Speaker 1: about it, His agencies, people I've talked to talked about it.

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Speaker 1: He wants to go somewhere right now. He already said

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of living out of suitcase. He was on

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Speaker 1: this podcast or something. I'm tired to living out of suitcase.

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Speaker 1: I want to go somewhere because my permanent home. That

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Speaker 1: sounds good. How do you do that? Coming off of

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Speaker 1: ACL a second a seal the same time, who's gonna

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Speaker 1: give you a month of year deal? And he knows

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Speaker 1: the want a month of your deal with Centric Wilson money.

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Speaker 1: He wants monkey your deal with Odell Beckham money. You

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Speaker 1: know he's started something. He wants Tyreek Hill level money

527
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Speaker 1: because that's the type of player he has been who

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Speaker 1: he thinks he still is. How do you give him

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Speaker 1: that kind of money in well, like I said, I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to depend on what other teams consider

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Speaker 1: his value is after they check out the knee. And

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Speaker 1: I think he's also gonna wait what team gives me

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Speaker 1: the best chance to try and get another Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: And I think Jerry's gonna do a really good job

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Speaker 1: of convincing him that, with his personality and with the star,

536
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Speaker 1: as they've done with Dak in the past, that the

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Speaker 1: endorsements deals will come flowing. Did anybody tal to know

538
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Speaker 1: around about all this? Stop it you just stop it,

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Speaker 1: stop it stop. You mentioned you talked to Michael gall

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Speaker 1: so I just what your boy. I just merely asked about.

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Speaker 1: I love the dog and Noah Brown, though, but I

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Speaker 1: think to your point, let's answer the CD Lamb question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that if you've got OBJ here,

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Speaker 1: Michael Gallup starts to pop off, and you feel good

545
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Speaker 1: about Noah Brown, then do you make some tough, tough

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Speaker 1: decisions about CD. And I say that so respectfully because

547
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Speaker 1: I think the world of that kid, and I think

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Speaker 1: he wants to be good. But for whatever reason, it's

549
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: like he struggles with the consistency, and so I think

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Speaker 1: they're going to ask themselves should we pay him what

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Speaker 1: the market is going to bear when CD comes out,

552
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Speaker 1: because someone will pay him. I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys will and his agent. I think his agent

554
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Speaker 1: is going to say whatever that number is when when

555
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Speaker 1: Beckham signs here, like they're gonna be okay, well, this

556
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Speaker 1: is where, this is where it's not it's not here,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be higher. And you know that's why I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying that there's some other dominoes that are going

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Speaker 1: to fall if they go this route, and that's their

560
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Speaker 1: job to do that. Those guys, you know, the Cap

561
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Speaker 1: guys and Stephen Jones, and it's their job to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's not just a black and white situation, all right.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask this question talking about CD Lamb

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Speaker 1: and knowing that he needs to have another gear. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can Odell Beckham Junior be the kind of player that

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Speaker 1: shows a Lamb you need to be doing X. This

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Speaker 1: is where you need to be. And I mentioned that

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Speaker 1: from the standpoint that's what von Miller did for Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald while Aaron Donald was thanking him on the Field

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Speaker 1: that when von got to the Rams, he said, you're

571
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Speaker 1: too quiet, You're too good to be this quiet, and

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Speaker 1: we can go where you take us to and made

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Speaker 1: him go to another level. Let's not forget that. He's

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Speaker 1: even said Von Miller has said that DeMarcus Ware did

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Speaker 1: that for him, which is where that came from. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm asked. Could And I don't know Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham Junia, I don't know him. I think he could,

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Speaker 1: and I think, especially when you consider the personalities of

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Speaker 1: the guys in that room, I think the only guy

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Speaker 1: that you've got that's a real dog, and there's honestly

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Speaker 1: Noah Broad, Michael Gallup and Ceedee lamb Are. I've kind

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Speaker 1: of heard in the past that they've wanted more vocal guys,

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Speaker 1: guys that chirp a little bit more, and they haven't

584
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Speaker 1: really had that. And I think obj Is got enough

585
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Speaker 1: experience from all of the drama in Cleveland and the

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Speaker 1: Giant and then going to the Rams and feeling like

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Speaker 1: he was in a functional system that he I think

588
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Speaker 1: all of us we get to a certain point in

589
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Speaker 1: our careers. It's not like you're putting us out to

590
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Speaker 1: the pastor but we start to go. I've got a

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Speaker 1: certain level of a shelf life, but you get so

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Speaker 1: much joy oled if helping bring up the next gen.

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Speaker 1: And I think that you're going to see that with OBJ.

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Speaker 1: I mean my experiences in my interactions with OBJ. He's

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite players in the league. And all

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Speaker 1: they need to do is call up Adam Henry, ask

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Speaker 1: Adam Henry what's he like? Yeah, college experience with them Cleveland, Well,

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Speaker 1: they've already done there. That's what McCarthy talked about the

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Speaker 1: other day when he talked about Joe widd and some

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Speaker 1: other guys who played with Ben McAdoo. Who was around

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Speaker 1: him was Giants. I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: back McCarthy's already He basically said, they've done their homework. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've done their due diligence on him and his background

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Speaker 1: and the type of player he is, and they said

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Speaker 1: there are no character concerns. He's a hard worker, he's

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Speaker 1: a guy, he's a great guy to be around. Great.

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Speaker 1: So they've done all that, new Father, they just have

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Speaker 1: not gotten to the weeds ye with him and his

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Speaker 1: agent on a deal. There's been no there's been interest,

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Speaker 1: but there has been nothing in the weeds as far

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Speaker 1: as the deal, because they still don't know where his

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Speaker 1: health is. I'll say this, and I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: the voting last night, with the mid terms and all

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Speaker 1: that would would end the campaigning. But it's not like

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Speaker 1: there's more campaigning going on and which we have gotten

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Speaker 1: to yet. The locker room, the campaign in the locker

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Speaker 1: room tonight, like Zeke like we want them. We want

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Speaker 1: ob herschel Walker going to a runoff. So wow, we're

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, right, That's right, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break. That's why it's gonna same thing. Clarence Hill,

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Speaker 1: Jane Slater, Nick Eatman, I'm newly structs this is the

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Speaker 1: media match when we come back. Can we talk about

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Speaker 1: the Packers? You got the little game right there? You

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Speaker 1: want I think Nick wants to go into thus and

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Speaker 1: an area where I think the Cowboys have a clear advantage.

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Speaker 1: Back to media mash Mediamash Like everybody's on the phones,

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Speaker 1: on the computers. This is what insiders do. Baby, don't

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Speaker 1: put it down, Nick, It's all good. You find a

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Speaker 1: nugget for me. Why don't you go find that nugget? Nick?

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Speaker 1: I was actually emailing somebody that's always is on this show.

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Speaker 1: I was John Machoda. I was trying to get him

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Speaker 1: to log I forget Yeah. Nick Eatman, Dallas Cowboys dot Com,

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Speaker 1: James Later, NFL Media, Clarence Hill foot or Star Telegram.

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Speaker 1: So Packers Cowboys three twenty five at lambeau Field. We'll

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Speaker 1: all be there, and Rich Bisacci, our old friend and

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys is gonna be There's a special teams coach

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Speaker 1: for the Packers. Poor Rich. I mean, you can only

676
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: turn around so much. Matt Matt Lafleur is not really

677
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: cared about special teams as the head coach, but he's

678
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Speaker 1: got Rich Pisacci there. They're they're a little bit better,

679
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Speaker 1: but still I think this is an area Nick, where

680
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are better and special teams can travel with you. Definitely.

681
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm most of the time it's really hard

682
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Speaker 1: to have a good special teams. I think when your

683
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Speaker 1: team is bad, you know, And that's what I think

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Speaker 1: we're finding out with the Packers just there. They're so

685
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: banged up, and when that happens, usually you take players

686
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Speaker 1: off the special teams and then they have to play

687
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: and start and then they're always you know, shuffling the

688
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Speaker 1: deck there. But yeah, I just think I think one

689
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Speaker 1: of the most electrifying players that I've ever seen is

690
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Speaker 1: Turpin because when he gets the ball, you hear it

691
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Speaker 1: in the stand. You hear the crowd just gasping that

692
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: he takes their breath away and he's about to take

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Speaker 1: one back to the house at some point. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just think he has been a huge

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Speaker 1: difference maker. He's not the best special teams player on

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Speaker 1: the team. I mean, I think Mars been outstanding this

697
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Speaker 1: year and Towarren's Armstrong's blocking kicks and punts and all that,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, they've just been really deep and talented there.

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Speaker 1: I also think it starts the top right, like Bones

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Speaker 1: is energy. Like we even we're kidding with Micah Parsons

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Speaker 1: today about what stands out about Mike McCarthy, And it

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Speaker 1: was Zeke who talked about the constructive criticism and they

703
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Speaker 1: have a leadership council and they go to him and

704
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Speaker 1: he values their feedback. And Micah wanted a ping pong table,

705
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Speaker 1: so Bones brought one in on Monday and then it

706
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Speaker 1: was curiously gone today, but it was I feel like

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Speaker 1: Bones is always trying to motivate his guys, and to

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Speaker 1: your point, Cavante's energy and his enthusiasm for taking advantage

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Speaker 1: of this second chance, because we've talked about what happened

710
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: at TCU as we should, but he's been contrite. He's

711
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Speaker 1: tried to take advantage of this. And one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite sayings from one of my bosses was, are you

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Speaker 1: going to be a fountain or drain? And I feel

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Speaker 1: like that guy is just a constant fountain in there.

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Speaker 1: Like anytime he's he's going for it. He wants to

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Speaker 1: get past the fifty yard line, and when he doesn't,

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Speaker 1: you see him sort of jump up and down. He's

718
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Speaker 1: so upset and he's ready to go on the next one.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the sort of energy that that

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Speaker 1: particular group, and I think they feed off of Cavante.

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Speaker 1: Special Teams person, if you want to listen, I like,

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Speaker 1: I like Cavante and everything you've done. I mean, you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: he gets you excited about special Teams again, you know,

724
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Speaker 1: like you you really think that something's gonna happen. You know,

725
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna pop one. It's been close, He's gonna pop one.

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Speaker 1: He certainly is the hidding yardage. You go back to

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Speaker 1: some of the games pedivial Cooper rushing. He didn't break one,

728
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Speaker 1: but the hidding yardage that he brings and on special

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Speaker 1: teams and the change in field position has made a

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Speaker 1: difference for this team is going to continue to make

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Speaker 1: a difference with this team going forward. And he talked

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Speaker 1: about people who needed that week off. He needed that.

733
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Speaker 1: He got broke up and then the Bears. I thought,

734
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Speaker 1: I thought it was like a robot. He wasn't even

735
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Speaker 1: moving his name, you know, and we didn't even see

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Speaker 1: him in the locker room to day. So I want

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Speaker 1: to see what how he's done. But he needed that week.

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Speaker 1: He got hit hard. And for fans that don't know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm literally taller than the guy. I'm five six,

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Speaker 1: and I swear to God, I'm I'm a bigger person.

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Speaker 1: And when you're going up against some of these NFL players, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean when he gets rocked. Uh, But he reminds

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Speaker 1: me a little bit of Trayvon Digs rookie season, Like

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Speaker 1: he was just so close and it's like it's gonna

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Speaker 1: come for him, It's gonna come from And I kind

746
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Speaker 1: of feel that way about Cavante speaking of Diggs. Yeah,

747
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Speaker 1: three picks last week for Aaron Rodgers too in the

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Speaker 1: red zone US and uncharacteristic. But they're getting Malik hookerback here. Um,

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Speaker 1: jay Ron Curse looks like talking to him earlier this

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Speaker 1: week in the locker room, he'll he'll play and he

751
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: talked about matching with with Aaron Rodgers here. Um, what

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Speaker 1: does it mean do you think for guys to be

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Speaker 1: able to say I got to pick off twelve? Who's

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Speaker 1: gonna go at a camp? We know it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer here, and you know

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00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: these receivers already, they're not real good. Um, the chances

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00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: of taking one against against twelve this week high? Well,

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00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean, let's you know, and that's a media talk.

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00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: That's fine. I mean serious that the players can't get

760
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: caught up into that they need to win the game.

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Speaker 1: And if they do what they need to get to

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Speaker 1: due to win the game, those opportunities will come. But

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Speaker 1: I hope he's not going in I got to pick

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Speaker 1: off Aaron Rodgers. Didn't lose his keys unless somebody get

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Speaker 1: behind him. You know that that cannot be your folks,

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Speaker 1: because that's something we can talk about it. We're gonna

767
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: like the Mike McCarthy's talks about that stuff all the time,

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Speaker 1: about trying to sack ag. Oh it was. He told

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Speaker 1: me that before he faced Tom Brady he was disappointed

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Speaker 1: the season because they were playing on turf and all

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Speaker 1: he wanted was a jersey with grass stains on it

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Speaker 1: from Tom Brady. And I kind of kidded with him like, look,

773
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to give anyone bulletin board material here,

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00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: but he sort of danced around and talked about his respect.

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00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: Of course they want to do that, I guess, and yes,

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00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: but the vision I feel like it's on their vision

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Speaker 1: board again, the vision boarders to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start the vision board, the vision board

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Speaker 1: to win the games. The difference between Michael Parsons and

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00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: a cornerback, though, is that everything you know with Michael

781
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: Parsons dreams of he's going out to the quarterback, He don't.

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Speaker 1: It's not about taking chances not, you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: what he does. You don't really want to I have

784
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Speaker 1: the answer to this because I've asked him this question.

785
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: I asked Rayvon Digs this question. We did our documentary.

786
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Speaker 1: He picked off Tom Brady last year picked off twelve.

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Speaker 1: He said, yeah, that was pretty cool, That's what he said.

788
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: It would have been cooler if he won the game.

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00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: That's exactly win the game. So he said it was

790
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: cool and it's one that he's gonna remember, but he

791
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: would have remembered it more if they would have won

792
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: the game. But if they win the game and he

793
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: also happens to get the picks, it's it's the cherry

794
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: on top. But that's not his focus going into the game.

795
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: Is all I'm saying, is that that's something for us

796
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: to talk about. Blanket on him. Man, thanks, it's not

797
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: all it can't be. It's just like the team can't

798
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: be focused and helping with helping make McCarthy get revenged.

799
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Speaker 1: But the way you win is you start with things

800
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Speaker 1: like that. No, you start when you start every game.

801
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: They can't have goal. They do have gold. It's it's Phoenix,

802
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: it's the division title. It's not about the individual athlete. Hotel.

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Speaker 1: Come on, guys, listen, fight T shirt retilions. I'm saying

804
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: it just it just like he won a thousand yards.

805
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: But you know, it's a team thing right now. He

806
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: got that thousand yards last year, last year, but this

807
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: year you think you don't think he wanted this year.

808
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I'm just saying that's probably not gonna have

809
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: playing XFL players out there. And they were like, we're

810
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: getting this right exactly when it when it's there, Yes,

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Speaker 1: when they'd already conisted the vision off the other stuff.

812
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: But right now it's the thick of the season. They

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00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: need to win this game. They need to focus on.

814
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: Make the main thing the main thing. I'm sorry the

815
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: problem around here too much. It's not you, but it

816
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: is the media, it is Jerry. Probably we let all

817
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: these extrange things get involved and get more attention than

818
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: the main thing from you. I know, really really we

819
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: never but listen, listen. I've been covering the Cowboys in

820
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six. The main thing is never the main thing.

821
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: It's always the circuits, always its other stuff. Make the

822
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: main thing to make man, guess what's changed. You know

823
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: what's changing. It's just starting starting the team, exchanging those

824
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: jerseys at the end of the game, all of that,

825
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: and and celebrating stadiums and facilities rather than SUPERO. I

826
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: was funny because I was in the media room another

827
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Speaker 1: day let the media room, other day in an interview room,

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Speaker 1: and we got these great photos of great moments of

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Speaker 1: Cowboys history, you know, the records and the Super Bowls

830
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: and the signing of players, and then we have them digging,

831
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Speaker 1: you know, breaking ground for the stadium. That don't fit.

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Speaker 1: Why because it should be about what happened on the field,

833
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: not about what helps you make money. Memories that go

834
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Speaker 1: into that stadium and being a part of that inaugural year.

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Speaker 1: You don't think that's interesting or important. Cowboys Stadium as

836
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: it was originally called, changed NFL stadiums as we know

837
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: them today. That is the blueprint. I agree, but that

838
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: that is part of the problem because we we get

839
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Speaker 1: caught up into that celebrating what changed in the field,

840
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: celebrating and rainbows. No, I think I think it's about titles.

841
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Speaker 1: Let's let's get back they don't they don't hang they

842
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Speaker 1: hang banners at at and T Stadium. That's what you

843
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Speaker 1: want be part of that conversation, and then you know

844
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: that's what you want. You don't want it being about

845
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: the stadium. You want to be about what happens in

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Speaker 1: the stadium. I just think it's funny though, that you

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Speaker 1: of all people that are saying they got to make

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Speaker 1: the main thing the main thing. But if there's something

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Speaker 1: that was different or that everyone's talking about, you're the

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Speaker 1: one that's gonna ask it. You're the one. You are.

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Speaker 1: I said to me, I said, the media is part

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Speaker 1: of the problem, the problem, but you're part of it,

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Speaker 1: like like if it's if there's something that there's I

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Speaker 1: said from the beginning of he was part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: That's why this is weird. It's not weird. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my job, but my job is not to win football game.

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Speaker 1: My job is to cover stories about the team. Well,

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Speaker 1: Jerry's job is also. Jerry job is to win games,

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Speaker 1: for sure, he's also he's also his job is to

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Speaker 1: also market his friends. You have a stadium like that

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Speaker 1: that the World Cup wants to come to, you want

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Speaker 1: to go cover to commanders. Yes, yes, yes, you're right,

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Speaker 1: you're I'm just saying, listen, I understand what. I understand

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Speaker 1: Jerry's job, and I love with Jerry because his job

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Speaker 1: helps me do my job with Jerry does off to

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Speaker 1: feel sometimes though it has to be about the main team,

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Speaker 1: it has to be the number. How do they fix it?

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Speaker 1: On November the tenth anything. That's what I'm saying, but

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Speaker 1: that I hate when fans do that great win, great

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Speaker 1: winning streak, four in a row. But what happened to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs because an f about the I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, but like enjoy the ride while it's here,

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Speaker 1: like like, let's do this, let's talk packers, let's talk interceptions,

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Speaker 1: let's doing I know, that's what I'm saying. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not just going don't even know how this arguments. I

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Speaker 1: don't even and I've been on both sides of it,

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Speaker 1: but I always pet was giving perspective of Digs picking

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Speaker 1: off Brady, and but he did say wanted to win

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Speaker 1: the game. But I do think we get ahead of ourselves, like,

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Speaker 1: oh well nothing matters until the playoffs. Well, okay, just

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Speaker 1: go on vacation. Then they come back. I guess I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you we're not doing yeah,

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Speaker 1: because now we already it's said Mike mccarton is keeping

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Speaker 1: the job last week on TV. I think, so let's uh,

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Speaker 1: then you say that let's go the first round. I

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Speaker 1: believe that I did, like we could we could literally

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Speaker 1: do a whole segment on that TV. Really yeah, because

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Speaker 1: his argument's going to be he didn't have a starting

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Speaker 1: left tacole, he didn't have his quarterback for multiple games,

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Speaker 1: still got him to win and it was one of

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Speaker 1: the toughest years in this NFC his division, and it's

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Speaker 1: wide open NFC has has ever been. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: likable and the players like him now and go to

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Speaker 1: another team in the season. I don't know about that. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I think that will happen. I think I

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Speaker 1: do think he's gonna be a head coach next year.

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Speaker 1: Right as what I'm saying, I think dan Quinn has

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Speaker 1: an interesting contract that allowed him to stay here versus

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Speaker 1: going to Denver. I'll leave it at that. That's Denver.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I'm just telling you that I think

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Speaker 1: that there's something built in there. Well. In the show

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Speaker 1: with words that a wise man, he was just don't

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Speaker 1: be a hater all your life, Oh Nick, that was

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Speaker 1: me and clears here, don't be a hater all your life, Confucius,

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Speaker 1: he's confusion. Let's make the main thing the main thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm new he scrubs. He's been the media

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