1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: If he stay with him, has not panicked. Looks like 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: he's going to be a really good manager regardless of 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: whether he wins the award this year. Welcome everyone to 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: with Olana Rizzo, as always, coming to you for at 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: least for me today live from Baltimore, where I am 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: back in my old stopping grounds for tonight's Astros Orioles 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: game that will be live on Fox at seven ten 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: or so. But we've got a ton to talk about, 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: and considering that mister Judge is on a sixty homer 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: pace after hitting two more last night, let's start with 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the al MVP race. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: I think we should. Ken good to be with you 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: as always, don't forget to get your questions in. Load 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: up the chat for Grill and Ken, and I tell 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: you what Aaron Judge, there is always something to be 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: said about the way that he goes about his business. 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: But Kenny, he could very well be on his way 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: to an al MVP award. 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: He definitely could. And what's interesting to me about this race, 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: and it is a race, let's get that right out there. 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: To start with, is that fans in Kansas City will say, well, 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: there's no choice, but Bobby Wick Junior, and fans in 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: New York will say, no, it can't be anyone but 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. Actually, both answers are correct. They're both having 26 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: amazing historic type seasons. And I want to show you 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: a statistical comparison right now. Judge is the clear front runner, 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: and he's a clear front runner for a couple of reasons. 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna show you here why all right, So 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: you see the numbers, they're kind of comparable in some ways. 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: Judge obviously leading in on base and slug and home runs. 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: He dwarfs Bobby Wick Junior OPS plus. This is the 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: park adjustede stats. And this is for all the people 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: who are saying, hey, man, Aaron Judge benefits from playing 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: a Yankee stadium. It's a much bigger deal for him 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: than planning Kansas City for Bobby Wick Junior. A bigger advantage. 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: And okay, but the OPS plus, which is something that 38 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: normalizes statistics going to the ballpark, you see Judge has 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: a huge advantage there to twenty six. That means one 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six percent above the gaverage versus Bobby 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: Witch Junior, who is seventy eight percent above the gaverage. Now, 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: War at least Fangrafs version of War is a virtual 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: tie at this point. And that is because Bobby Witch 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: Junior plays an up the middle position like Judge, but 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: plays it at an elite level. He is one of 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: the top defenders in baseball according to outs above average. 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Judge is a good center fielder, is not a great 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: center fielder. Actually, in some measures he's in a below 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: average center fielder. Now people are gonna say, Okay, this 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: is gonna be a New York bias type of thing. 51 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Guess what. In the BBWAA Awards voting, there is no 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: New York bias. And I'll tell you why. Because each 53 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: city in the American League, each city in the nationally, 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: there are two votes from each chapter. Each BBWA chapter, 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: so Kansas city votes are valued as much as New 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: York votes and every city, every team in the league 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: is presented by two voters. So I would expect at 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: this point Judge sixty home run pace. My gosh, he's 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: playing on a team that, yes, has won soda. Well 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: Bobby Wood doesn't, but man, it's hard to deny what 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: he's doing. That said for all the Royals fans, We're 62 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: gonna get ticked off. Bobbywood Junior is amazing. He's the 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: MVP in any other year, and he still could be 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: the MVP in this year, depending upon how the final 65 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: five weeks turn out. 66 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: So I ask you this, Ken, is it more impressive 67 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: to you that Aaron Judge is having the season that 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: he's having for a team with the pressure like the 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: New York Yankees, or are you more impressed by what 70 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: Bobby Wood Junior is doing in a mid market team 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: basically the face of a franchise at such a young age. 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: A lot of great question, and I really love this 73 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: kind of debate because it's interesting to look at it 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: that way. And you can also make the point Bobby 75 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: Wood plays in a softer division, right he plays in 76 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: a division with the Chicago White Sox, or Judge does not. 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time, these are two different types 78 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: of players, two different circumstances, obviously, as you just mentioned, 79 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: And for that reason, it's almost in Apple's and Oranges 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: type of thing. And it's also the kind of thing 81 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: and I alluded to earlier. There is no wrong answer here. 82 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: Now I know fans of either team will scream and 83 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: yell and say yes, there is a wrong answer. No. 84 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: I would be very comfortable if the vote was held 85 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: today voting for either player. 86 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. Bobby Woo Junior has a 87 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: great future ahead, and Aaron Judges far from being done 88 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: as far as his you know what he's been able 89 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: to do is concerned. All right, let's talk a bit 90 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: about the struggles that are the Seattle Mariners. Ken. This 91 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: is a team that obviously was hoping that they could 92 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: really make a playoff push, signing Grandy eros Renna. They 93 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: got Justin Turner as a veteran player. What have you 94 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 2: noticed after coming off the sweep by the Los Angeles 95 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: Dodgers against the ms A lot. 96 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: It's not just that sweep, it's a one in eight 97 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: road trip. Their record is now five hundred, sixty four 98 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: and sixty four. This is a team it had a 99 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: ten game lead on June eighteen and now has or 100 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: is facing a five game deficit. The Astros have blown 101 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: past them. We know what the problem is. I wrote 102 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: about this yesterday. They have an elite starting rotation, a 103 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: very good pitching staff in general, and they cannot hit. 104 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: They are wasting an all time great pitching performance. And 105 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: what was interesting when I called their president of baseball operations, 106 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto for the story I wrote yesterday, he had 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: some comments about the manager Scott's service that I found 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: pretty revealing, especially for a president of baseball ops in 109 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: the middle of the season. I asked him, might the 110 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: team benefit from a new voice, and Derry Depoto said, 111 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: it definitely has to be a consideration for us to 112 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: talk through everything. That's just reality. We've underperformed and there 113 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: is some discussion for each of us to have about 114 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: the part we have played in coming up as short 115 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: as we have to this point. Now, it's awfully late 116 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: in the season to change managers, but when I heard that, 117 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: I thought they might be thinking of something. And they 118 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: go out an off day today before a homestand that 119 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: starts tomorrow, and it's not on precedent Alana for a 120 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: team to fire a manager late in the season. My goodness. 121 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight, Ned Yost on September fifteenth got 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: fired by Doug Melvin, the general manager the Brewers at 123 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: the time, because Melvin felt this was our last shot, 124 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: the Brewers last shot to get into the playoffs, and 125 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: they actually did. They were reeling at the time, and 126 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: they got in with Dale Swayin. I don't know that 127 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: the Mariners can get in at this point. Their playoff 128 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: odds are down to twelve percent. They are facing problems 129 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: that no manager can solve. But this is definitely a 130 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: situation that Bear's watching. 131 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: It'd be interesting, too, Ken to see who the interim 132 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: manager would be if, in fact, they let Scott's service go. 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: More on that as we pay attention to what's happening 134 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: there in Seattle. But Blake Harris had an interesting tweet. 135 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: He said, it really is crazy how if the Mariners 136 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: just had like the fifteenth best offense in baseball, they'd 137 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: be a World Series favorite. This rotation in a postseason 138 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: series would be nuts. Now, Jerry Depoto, the general manager, 139 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: can you know better than anybody that he loves to 140 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: make trades? Are you surprised that the offense has been 141 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: as lackluster as it has been really the entire season, 142 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: even with the additions at the trade deadline? 143 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: Yes, alta, yes is the answer. And they changed it 144 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: up in the off season. They let Tiascar go. Ti 145 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: Oskar's having a great year, the leeo Heinu Suarez go 146 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: into trade and Suarez is doing what Suarez usually does. 147 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: He's started slowly, but he's playing better. For the Diamondbacks, 148 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: they brought in Joye Polanco and Mitch Hanniger and Mitch Garver, 149 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: and the park is one factor here. That park is 150 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: offense suppressing at the same time, it's not new that 151 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: it's like that. And this is the potos. Let's see 152 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: ninth full season. They've made the playoffs once. So if 153 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: they indeed fire the manager, then the focus becomes quite 154 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: naturally on the general manager. And it's a situation, as 155 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: you said, that bear's watching because I would say, as 156 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: flat as they looked on that road trip, as poorly 157 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: as they played one in eight against the Pirates, Tigers 158 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: and Dodgers, it wasn't just the Dodgers and two other contenders. 159 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: It was the Pirates, Tigers and Dodgers that was cause 160 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: for alarm. 161 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: And it looks like the frustration Ken is boiling over. 162 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: Maybe not just in the front office, but you see 163 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: what happened with Randy a Rosarena obviously in the game 164 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: benches clearing there. I mean, this is a testament to 165 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: the fact that the clubhouse seems to be fracturing A 166 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: little bit as well, that they're just as equally frustrated 167 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: with the performance as perhaps the front offices. 168 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. I'm sure the players are really frustrated, 169 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: and they're not going to say it publicly necessarily, but 170 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: when every night you're lucky to score three runs, three 171 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: is seemingly their maximum on most nights, it's a real problem. 172 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: And it's a huge problem against the resurgent Dodgers offense. 173 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: Now that Muncy is there, now that Edmond is there. 174 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: You see the little tiff last night between a Rose 175 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Arena and Flaherty. I don't know that I would make 176 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: much out of that, but yeah, a lota, there's no 177 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: question you've seen this. You've been around teams when they're losing, 178 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: when they're going badly, fractures do take place. 179 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, postseason last year for the first time in what 180 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 2: twenty one years or something like that, with an early exit. 181 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: As far as the Seattle Mariners go, they're likely going 182 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: to miss the twenty twenty five postseason, all right, Changing 183 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: gears now, A little bit to a guy that I 184 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: tell you ken, I call him a two nation treasure. 185 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: Joey Vado officially announcing his retirement after a tremendous career 186 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: seventeen season in Major League Baseball, primarily of course, with 187 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds. This is a guy that has just 188 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: made the game better. What is your lasting impression of otto? 189 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Unique personality, unique player. And there's going to be some 190 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: question about the Hall of Fame, there always is when 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: a player retires. It's not going to be much of 192 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: a question for me, and I believe for most voters. 193 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: He is kind of a product of this era. He 194 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: is an on base guy and a player who led 195 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: his league in on pace percentage seven times. Let's look 196 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: at his career numbers, Alana, just to get an appreciation 197 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: for what Joey Vado accomplished. Two ninety four batting average, 198 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: four to nine on base five eleven slug ops plus 199 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: forty four percent above league average. That's pretty darn good. 200 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 1: One one hundred and thirty five hits, three hundred and 201 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: fifty six home runs, the seven time leader in OBP 202 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: as I mentioned in the twenty ten NL MVP, and 203 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: just is notable about Vado and a lot of you 204 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: experienced this, perhaps more vividly than anyone. His personality was 205 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: something special and he had a unique view of his 206 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: responsibility as a player. He had a unique view of 207 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: the game, and we all loved them for it. 208 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: I love that still, Oh I do. I love Joey 209 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: Vodo so much. There's certain players in this game can 210 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: over the course of the two decades I've covered in 211 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: certainly you longer, that have really just stood out to 212 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: me as such ambassadors of the game. So let me 213 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: tell you this story really quickly. So I am a 214 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: coho on High Heat with Chris Russo on MLB Network 215 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: about I don't know. Several months ago, Joey Vado reached 216 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: out to me two weeks prior to an interview on 217 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: High Heat, and he reached out to me and said, Hey, 218 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: I want to make sure that you're working on this 219 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: day because I'm going to purposely answer your questions thoroughly 220 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: and professionally, and then when Chris asks me a question, 221 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to answer them very differently. Here's what Joey 222 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: Vodo meant by that. Take a listen. 223 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: A couple of months ago, you said that Zach Grinki 224 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: and I are a hall of very good ballplayers. I 225 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: think Zach and I would agree. You may be right, 226 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: but I get the gist of what's going on here? 227 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: I know what you're doing. You're looking down on us, 228 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: a couple small market Midwest ballplayers, just because we're not 229 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: big city, just like you, mister New York City sirius 230 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: XM radio star, mister National Television ESPN star, with your 231 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: Fifth Avenue ties and your Chris Pocket squares, your tailored 232 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: suits and your polish shoes, and you'r a hair. You're 233 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: perfectly quaffed Broadway hair. Must be nice to sit atop 234 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: that Madison Avenue Irate tower looking down on us with 235 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: those luscious locks. Not everyone can be the next Roger 236 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: Pecking Paw Matt Dog. You should be ashamed of yourself. 237 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: And you for two weeks that this was happening. And 238 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: at first Chris Russo, the host of High Heat, obviously 239 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: was like, what in the heck is happening here? And 240 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: I knew, as I said the entire time. But the performance, 241 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: the comedic and acting performance of Joey Voto, that just 242 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: goes to show you, and he has a tremendous amount 243 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: of respect for Chris, and it just goes to show 244 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: you what a great personality he was. But this makes 245 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: me sad, ken look at what Joey Vodo tweeted out 246 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: last night too. I guess he was taking an uber 247 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: and the uber driver asked him because he was on 248 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: his way to the ballpark. The uber driver asked him 249 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: if he was a player, and he said no. That 250 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 2: makes me sad he's retiring. 251 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: And you know what, I thought, it was really cool. 252 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: There's the tweet right there from Joey driving to the 253 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: stadium right now. My uber driver asked, are you a player? 254 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: I said no. But Joey also mentioned that he wasn't 255 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: going to go and press the Blue Jays to call 256 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: him up when he felt he could not perform at 257 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: a major league level, could not perform to his standard. 258 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: He has this respect for the game that not all 259 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: players do, and he has a feel that not all 260 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: players do. And again, he was a unique player. Now, 261 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: remember there was a lot of controversy about him taking 262 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: too many pitches, not driving in enough runs. And in 263 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: the era of statistical analysis that we are witnessing the 264 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: growth of analytics, he became a darling of that crowd. 265 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: And I remember Brian Kenny when I was on MLB Network, 266 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: Brian Kenny loved Joey Vadel like no other. Oh, every 267 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: time he would start talking about Joey Vado, he would 268 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: talk about Joey's process. He has a process. At the plate, 269 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: I called him the Prince of process. He was the 270 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: Prince of process. But he was like a prince insult 271 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: many other ways as well. Just a great player and 272 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: a great guy. And I do look forward to voting 273 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: for him for the Hall of Fame. 274 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: I certainly do not have a vote, but I would 275 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: vote Joey Vado into the Hall of Fame. And this 276 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: is why. And Jason Stark, a good friend of ours, 277 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: brought this up one time. I understand that he drew 278 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: a lot of walks, and unless spaces are loaded, you're 279 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: not driving in runs with walks. But if Joey Evado 280 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: had a hit for every walk that he earned, he 281 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: would automatically be in the Hall of Fame. And that 282 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: was Jason Stark's point. I'm paraphrasing there. But Joey Vado 283 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: did such a tremendous job of working pitch counts, of 284 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: not chasing outside of the zone of knowing himself and 285 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: continuing to evolve. But the leadership standpoint too, and I 286 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: know you don't get into the Hall of Fame by 287 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: being a leader. But the leadership standpoint two. If Joey 288 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: Vado is second to none, and I wish him nothing 289 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: but the best. This is a guy that dresses up 290 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: in full Gucci attire, goes in place chess. I mean, 291 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: the man is. He's just a savant in so many ways. 292 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: And best of luck to Joey Vado as he takes 293 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: on whatever. You know, maybe he's in the broadcast booth, 294 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: maybe he comes for our job. I mean, he's obviously 295 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: very eloquent and knows the game inside and ounce, So 296 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: we'll see what he does all right. Time now for 297 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: Grill and Ken, load up your questions in the chat. 298 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: You don't get an opportunity often to ask Ken Rosenthal questions, 299 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask you this. Ken, We'll start 300 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: with Jimmy. Well, this is from our director, Jimmy, but 301 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: this is from Sprucey eleven. Ken is making the playoffs 302 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: as a third wild card seed a greater benefit than 303 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: taking the top two spots. 304 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: This is a question that has arisen under this new format, 305 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: and it's a good one because you see teams that 306 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: have struggled after getting the buy and having that time off, 307 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: and you see teams that as wild cards kind of 308 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: get hot and get going. The Dodgers have been the 309 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: ultimate victims of this the last two years. I can't 310 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: say it's an advantage to have to play four rounds 311 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: rather than three, but there is something at times, it 312 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: seems to the effect of that layoff, the rust that 313 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: sets in. That said, most teams would rather have the rest. 314 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: I remember being in the Phillies clubhouse this spring. The 315 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: subject came up and Bryan Snicker had said something like 316 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: the rest had hurt us, and the Phillies were livid 317 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: at this. They were like, we would love the rest. 318 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: We would have loved it. So I do believe most 319 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: teams are banged up at that time of year. I 320 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: don't believe that. I know that, and in most cases 321 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: the rest is a benefit, but we have seen teams 322 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: struggle to get going after that layoff. 323 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: I will say this. I remember in two thousand and 324 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: seven I had just started covering the Colorado Rockies, and 325 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: this was the year in which they won twenty one 326 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: out of twenty two games. Ken they obviously swept the 327 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: Phillies and the DS, they swept the Diamondbacks in the CS, 328 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: and then they had to wait until the American League 329 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: finished up to get to the World Series. Now, I'm 330 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: not saying I'm not suggesting that the Colorado Rockies were 331 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: going to beat the Boston Red Sox in two thousand 332 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: and seven, but the fact that they had to wait 333 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: for the American League to finish up for so long 334 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: I think would have at least made the World Series 335 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: a bit more competitive had they not had such a layof. 336 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: All right, next question, this coming from Scott Braun, which 337 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: club has the best chance of laying down the top much? 338 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: Rest excuse after receiving that first round by kind of 339 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: along the question you just answered about, you know, do 340 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 2: you want to be continuing to play or do you 341 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: want the layoff? 342 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: I can't say for sure what the answer to that is, 343 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: because we don't know, frankly, which teams are going to 344 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: get the buys yet. Even in the National League the Dodgers, 345 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: Phillies and Brewers, it's really close. American League, it's kind 346 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: of the same deal. So I cannot say exactly how 347 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: that would turn out. But it's a good question. Scott 348 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: put it that way. 349 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: All right, is there a chance that Judge and Wit 350 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: are declared co MVPs in the American League. You said yourself, 351 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: Ken that there is no wrong answer whether you vote 352 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: for Judge or you vote for Wit. Could they both 353 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: get it? 354 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: It's possible to vote by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. 355 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: The thirty voters could end in a tie. That's the 356 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: way it would be for that to happen. Do I 357 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: expect that. No, it's pretty difficult to have a dead 358 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: even split like that, but stranger things have happened. I 359 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: don't know that we've ever had a co MVP a 360 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: race end in a tied vote, but maybe this will 361 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: be the year. Again. I want to make it clear. 362 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: Judge is the front runner. The dude did sixty zero 363 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: runs and leads and on base slugging at maybe average 364 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: as well. He's gonna win MVP. But the other guy, 365 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: mister Witt Junior, he's having an amazing, amazing season. 366 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: All Right, this question not in the chat yet, but 367 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you anyway, do you think this 368 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: year we have a triple crown winner as far as 369 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: a pitcher is concerned. Right now, we could have one 370 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: in each league, But do you think we get one 371 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: at all? 372 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: Haven't this? Haven't given this one much thought. I would say, no, 373 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: the chances are so slim of that happening, but it's 374 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: not out of the question. Of course, we're talking about wins, 375 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: e and strikeouts, right, a lot of that's the three categories. 376 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: Of course, the state the saber metroistricians would say, oh, 377 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: those are the wrong categories. We're talking about this particular 378 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: group of statistics here. So Scooble obviously has a chance, 379 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: I would think, and in the National League Sale has 380 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: a chance. Does it happen? Remains to be seen. 381 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: Okay, very good. One more question for you. This is 382 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: from armand if the Mets make the playoffs, does that 383 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: get Mendoza manager of the Year. I mean, this is 384 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: a guy we were trying to run out of town 385 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: at the beginning. Why doesn't Buck show Waltzer get a chance? 386 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: Are you crazy? Mendoza? What does he know? From Yankees 387 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: to the Mets? And here the Mets might make the postseason. 388 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Pat Murphy to me, is the manager of the year 389 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: in the National League almost without question. Brewers are going 390 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: to win the division. They've overcome a ton of things, 391 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: and it just seems to me they're the obvious choice 392 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: to have the manager of the year. That's said, if 393 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: the Mets make the playoffs, I would expect Mendoza would 394 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: get votes, maybe finished in the top three. I know 395 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: he has had some late inning moves that have been 396 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: head scratching to some in recent weeks especially, but he 397 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: has kept that team going. They've had a lot of 398 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: adversity too, and especially earlier in the year when they 399 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: were just kind of not clicking, he stayed with him, 400 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: has not panicked. Looks like he's going to be a 401 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: really good manager regardless of whether he wins the award 402 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: this year. 403 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal, you are nothing if you are not consistent, 404 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 2: you said Pat Murphy on Monday's Fair Territory. You're sticking 405 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: with it here, all right. 406 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: You and I look like three days. I don't change 407 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: a lot of time. 408 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: I mean, nay, some people flip flop all the time. Listen, 409 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: I don't know some people do that. Look at you 410 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: and I look like we match. 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Who's your dude? 430 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: All right? The Dude of the week probably should be 431 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: judged based on baseball performance alone, but I'm gonna give 432 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: it to a guy who has taken some heat over 433 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: the years in various stops. A guy who hit a 434 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: walk off home or yesterday for the New York Mets 435 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: in a huge game for them, and then had a 436 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: trot that might have upsets people. Jesse Winker and here's 437 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: Jesse going deep off, Sir Anthony de Mingez. It was 438 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: a great, great home run and wow, what little nuts. 439 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: Now for those who are aware of Jesse Winker and 440 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: his whole saga, he is an emotional dude. He is 441 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: a guy who used to be a villain at City Field. 442 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: The Mets fans couldn't stand him. He gets to the 443 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: Mets in a deadline move and here he is doing 444 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: some things for them that are obviously helping. 445 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: Them win games. 446 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: He means no harm, trust me all that. But he 447 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: is a guy who is fiery, who is emotional, and 448 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: we saw it all come out yesterday. He said that 449 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: was one of the highlights of his career. 450 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: I love it so much because he just had his 451 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: signature moment as a New York Met, his first home 452 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: run as a Met. He may it not get the 453 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: opportunity to do it again. Good for him. The Mets 454 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: are trying to make the postseason. I'm all about it. Listen, 455 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: if you're gonna pump your fist, if you strike somebody out, 456 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: on a big at Bata, you're gonna throw your back. 457 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: Good for Jesse Winker, I have no problem with that. 458 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: He wasn't trying to show up anybody. I was sitting 459 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: on the couch though, and I was watching this game 460 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: because it was an afternoon game, and I'm screaming at 461 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: the couch. I'm like, make sure you tough. First of all, 462 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: start running. Second of all, make sure you touch all 463 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: the bases, and please hit touch home plate and don't 464 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 2: break your ankle in the process. 465 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: So that's that's what all possibilities I took away from. 466 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, brother, don't forget to touch the 467 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: bag on your way around. All right. So my dude 468 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: of the week, it's obvious we've discussed it at length 469 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: in this show. Joey Vato, not just for what he 470 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: did as far as the baseball performance, but just such 471 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: a tremendous ambassador of the game. I love a guy. 472 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: I always have best of luck the rest. 473 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: Of the way. 474 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: Joey Votto is my dude of the week. All right, Ken, 475 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: who's your dork? 476 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: Well, there's really only one choice, and he's actually a 477 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: teammate of Ourslana, and we've joked before about how John 478 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: Fisher maybe we should name the award for the Oakland 479 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: A's owner because he wins it so often. This guy 480 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: that I'm going to mention is starting to challenge mister 481 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: Fisher for dork of the week supremacy. I'm talking, of course, 482 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: about the man who, in my estimation, cheated in the 483 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: sausage race in Milwaukee. Let's roll the tape and watch 484 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: AJ Brazinski do his thing. Now, you're supposed to run 485 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: along the warning track. That's what most of the sausages 486 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: are doing. They're kind of in line. And here's Aj 487 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: and then he almost knocks over Reese Hoskins. Of course, 488 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: AJ proclaims innocence. He always proclaims innocence. He did that 489 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: his whole career, when he would stir it up and 490 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: then act like nothing ever happened. AJ's dork of the week. 491 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: I have to tell you, though, not to defend AJ. 492 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: I realized that Aj is indefensible. He's indefensible. But I 493 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: will tell you this, though I ran that damn sausage 494 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: race in Milwaukee. It was the day that C. C. 495 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: Sabathia made his start as a brewer. When he was 496 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: a rental the Rockies. I was covering the Rockies at 497 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: the time were playing the Brewers, and I thought it 498 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: would be a great idea to run the sausage race. 499 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to be the chordisto because I'm Hispanic. I 500 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: was like, well, I'm not Mexican, but I was like, 501 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: I'll be the chordiso right. They're like, there's no way 502 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: you can hold up the head of the chody, it's 503 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: too heavy, so they made me the hot dog. Well, 504 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: needless to say, they open up the gates and you 505 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: come out. I literally and figuratively Ken Rosenthal was smoked. 506 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: They were turning around going up the first baseline. I 507 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: was barely by the Rockies dugout. I wanted to absolutely disappear. 508 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to go into the Rockies dugout and disappear. 509 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: They were already taking their costumes off by the time 510 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: I finished the race, totally embarrassing. The thing was so 511 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 2: dang heavy. It's like someone standing on your shoulders. You 512 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: can't move you. If you go too far forward, you 513 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: fall forward, if you go too far back, you fall backward. 514 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: There's no peripheral vision. So I'm impressed AJ was actually 515 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: able to run that fast again. Indefensible, But there you 516 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: have it. I was the hot dogs and I was last. 517 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Well, and I believe yesterday in a foul territory, AJ 518 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: was making the case that there was some young college 519 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: kids who were the other sausages and what was he 520 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: to do? 521 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me tell you. They don't give you 522 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: any any like visitors courtesy either. They couldn't care less. 523 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 2: They're like, you're new, we don't care. We're gonna smoke you, 524 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: all right. So my dude of the week, honestly, and 525 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: I know it was Joey Vado saying he didn't want 526 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays to bring him up if he wasn't 527 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: big league ready. To me, the Toronto Blue Jays are 528 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: the dork of the week. You have to let Joey Vado, 529 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: for nothing else, come up and have an opportunity to 530 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: play in front of his home country as a big leaguer. 531 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: I know. To me's the Cincinnati Red for life, obviously, 532 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: but the Toronto Blue Jays could have had him come 533 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: up a lot sooner, if nothing else, for the leadership, 534 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: just to be able to play in a big league 535 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: uniform in Toronto for his home country I think would 536 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: have been cool. 537 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: Alana. You know what, though, I'm not sure Joey Vado 538 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: would have taken that. Maybe I don't know that he 539 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: would have accepted that because he would have felt that 540 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: it was disrespecting the game, that he wasn't worthy of 541 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: that place. He understands the value of a spot on 542 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: a major league roster as well as anyone, so a 543 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: ceremony might have been cool, but really, the Reds are 544 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: the ones who should be doing the honoring, and based 545 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: on what Joey said last night, I don't think he 546 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: would have been down with that. 547 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: I just don't And honestly, they may have extended the 548 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: offer to him. I don't know that they may have extended. 549 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: Into your point, Ken, he may have declined the offer, 550 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: but I would have loved to have seen Joey Vado 551 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: in a Toronto Blue Jay's uniform, just for posterio. Obviously. 552 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Toronto week. We haven't gotten to this guy yet. 553 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: Orlando Arcia last night staring at Bryce Harper. 554 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: Enough, here's some. 555 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: Advice for mister Orcia. You don't tug on Superman's cape. 556 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: He should have learned that last year in the playoffs, 557 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: and heaven knows what Bryce Harper has in store for 558 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: the Braves tonight. 559 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. I gotten big fat trouble on air over this 560 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: whole situation last year, so I'm not gonna say anything 561 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: there you have, but yeah, Orlando Arcia shut it all right, 562 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: and it's great to be back with you. I appreciate it. 563 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: You're going to have a fresh new Fair Territory on Monday. 564 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: Before we let you go, though, let's say thank you 565 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: to our friends at BETTM. We always appreciate everything that 566 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: they do for us as well. Before let's say goodbye. 567 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: Bet MGM first bet fifteen hundred dollars offer when you 568 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: use the bonus code foul. 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He will be back with you on 577 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: Monday with a fresh episode and Foul Territory is next. 578 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: We have a lot of fun on that, Max Monsey, 579 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: Lawrence Butler joining Scott Eric and Camera Maybean, Think Clints 580 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: and I will have God Your Territory at twelve pm 581 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: Pacific and so next time. Thanks for watching.