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Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm Kaylie Shore, and this is too much

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Speaker 1: to say it out to you. This week's episode is

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Speaker 1: going to be about a word that, to my knowledge,

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Speaker 1: originated in Nashville and kind of only exists here. It's

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Speaker 1: a music industry word and a lot of people may

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Speaker 1: or may not have heard it. But the second you

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Speaker 1: get to Nashville, you're gonna learn this word really quick.

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Speaker 1: And the word is called germ spelled g h e

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Speaker 1: r m, and the top definition on Urban dictionary dot

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Speaker 1: com is someone who slavishly follows and sucks up to

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Speaker 1: a celebrity, a fan to excessive degree, usually applied to

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Speaker 1: one who makes people uncomfortable by their adoration. So, using

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Speaker 1: a sentence, it would say, she saw Taylor Swift at

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Speaker 1: Urgent Care and went up to her and asked for

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Speaker 1: a picture. Wow, she's such a germ. Like that would

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Speaker 1: be uh, that used in a sentence, although I know

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Speaker 1: that two sentences whatever, Just let me have it, okay now.

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Speaker 1: It's it's such an interesting concept because that's not always bad,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like it is completely okay to be excited

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Speaker 1: about meeting somebody. It's like totally okay to be a

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Speaker 1: fan of someone and there's a difference between a germ

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Speaker 1: and a stalk or two, Like they're absolutely not the

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Speaker 1: same thing. A gram is just kind of like, to

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Speaker 1: an excessive degree, is just kind of annoying. But we've

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Speaker 1: probably all done it. Myself included a couple of the

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Speaker 1: times I have girmed were I was playing a Walmart

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Speaker 1: event in Ventonville, Arkansas, and was just you know, hanging

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Speaker 1: out with my wine and some girls from song stuff

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Speaker 1: for jets. It was all of us, they're playing, and

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Speaker 1: I turned around and I saw William H. Macy. He

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Speaker 1: plays Frank on Shameless as well as a million other roles,

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Speaker 1: and I was in the middle of bend watching Shameless.

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Speaker 1: So it was so trippy to see him in person,

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Speaker 1: because like, I've been spending every day with this guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, watching him on Netflix. I'd watched him the

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Speaker 1: night before. And I turned around and I'm like, Frank

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Speaker 1: and on the show Shameless, Frank is a big fan

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Speaker 1: of alcohol. And we both had a glass of wine

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Speaker 1: and I like got to cheers Frank from Shameless. Okay,

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Speaker 1: William H. Macy, But I just went up to him

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Speaker 1: and it was kind of interesting because like, in that setting,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of was like, hey, uh, I'm playing tonight,

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Speaker 1: huge fan of you, whatever, And he was so nice,

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Speaker 1: so lovely, totally okay to do that. One of the

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Speaker 1: times I girmed in it maybe was not the coolest

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Speaker 1: thing in the world is when I was I've never

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Speaker 1: really told this story before because it's kind of embarrassing,

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Speaker 1: but whatever, I was sixteen. Anyways, when I was sixteen,

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Speaker 1: I was in a Taylor Swift music video for her

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Speaker 1: song Mine. She filmed it in my hometown. When I

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Speaker 1: booked the role, I had no idea who the music

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Speaker 1: video was for, but like part of me was like,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be the other Swift. I just know

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Speaker 1: it because that was like on my call sheet and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and I knew that he had done a lot of

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Speaker 1: it's gotta be Taylor Swift. It has to be. And

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Speaker 1: nobody could tell me that. It was like super super

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Speaker 1: waiting to start working that day and someone was like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Taylor should be here any second. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, Taylor Swift. Uh do you mean the ta

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Speaker 1: other Swift? And they were like yeah, and I was like, okay, cool, cool,

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Speaker 1: First thing I do is run right into Taylor and

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Speaker 1: she goes, oh my god, you must be Kiley. You

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Speaker 1: have such beautiful eyes. And I was like Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: like trying so hard not to cry again and was

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Speaker 1: like oh my god. Yeah, like so good to meet you.

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Speaker 1: And Taylor like and she always does this thing where

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Speaker 1: I looked back and I'm like, oh my god, that

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Speaker 1: was the nicest funk off anyone could have ever given

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. But the funk off was a hundred percent deserved.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't really groom appropriately in that situation. And

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Speaker 1: that's interesting because it was grimming at work. Also another

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Speaker 1: type of gromming at work when it's you know, not

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Speaker 1: even on a set is I saw Rivers Cuomo, who

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, it's fucking Rivers Cuomo.

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Speaker 1: And they check in and I'm like, you know, talking

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Speaker 1: to him, trying you know, to be like just act

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. But he was like, hey, can you bring

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Speaker 1: And so I like have to carry his guitar up

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Speaker 1: didn't open his guitar case or anything, but I carried

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Speaker 1: not the time to gur him. My boyfriend Sam played

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Speaker 1: your life. He did not say that, but it would

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Speaker 1: have been funny if he had. But there's like times

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Speaker 1: It's totally fine personally. I've only been recognized so many

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Speaker 1: getting a beer the other day and she was like, hey, um,

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Speaker 1: and she was like, oh my god, I really like

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for talking to me. And

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Speaker 1: she was so sweet. She bought me Tequie the Shop

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Speaker 1: and she was like, you took a video of me

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Speaker 1: and my friends two years ago playing our singing Carly

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Speaker 1: I sent it to Carly because it was like great

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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I just sent this to Carly

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Speaker 1: you know. So this has been everybody germs on my podcast,

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