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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are going to give

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Speaker 1: you our takeaways after breaking down the film of the Ravens'

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Speaker 1: season opening loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, as well as,

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Speaker 1: on a brighter note, talk about the rest of the

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Speaker 1: AFC North and what we saw from them in week one. So, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into the twenty seven to twenty loss and

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Speaker 1: I'll start to hear that I think that there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of things to like. You know, as we said,

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Speaker 1: it was a tall order going to the Arrowhead Stadium,

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Speaker 1: two time defending champs, all that stuff. There was a

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Speaker 1: lot more to like than you felt coming out of

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Speaker 1: that game, right that one's stung. You lose by a toe, literally,

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Speaker 1: a lot to like and a lot to clean up.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that is the name of the

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Speaker 1: game in the NFL is Week one to week two

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Speaker 1: is a really critical time and the Ravens have a

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Speaker 1: number of things that they need to get better at

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Speaker 1: during this time before facing the Raiders in the home opener.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we lose that game.

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Speaker 3: It's the NFL's kickoff game and there's all this excitement,

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Speaker 3: it's the primetime, it's first game of the calendar, all

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Speaker 3: this stuff, Like, there's a lot of eyeballs on that game.

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Speaker 3: And so when you lose that game and come as

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Speaker 3: close as you did to this miraculous comeback, like it stings,

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Speaker 3: It bothers you for a couple of days. But I'm

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Speaker 3: with you when you when you go back and you

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Speaker 3: look at it from both a nuanced view and a

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Speaker 3: big picture standpoint, I do think that I think the

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Speaker 3: seam is in a really good position.

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Speaker 2: I feel even better about that.

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Speaker 3: I know we both said that in the podcast kind

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Speaker 3: of right after the game, but I feel that even

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Speaker 3: more so a couple of days removed. And I think

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Speaker 3: when you look at the film and some of the

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Speaker 3: nuances of it, there's lots alike about the team, and

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Speaker 3: I think the Ravens are in good position, but there

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Speaker 3: are certain areas that we're going to get through all

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Speaker 3: of this that they need to improve and clean up.

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Speaker 3: So's let's dive into it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's start with Lamar Jackson. It's always a good

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Speaker 1: starting point exactly. So you know, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of feelings about Lamar after the game from National pundits,

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Speaker 1: you know, some really kind of criticizing him for, you know,

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Speaker 1: another loss to Patrick Mahomes not getting it at the

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Speaker 1: end of the game. And after I broke down the film,

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Speaker 1: it became even more apparent that Lamar Jackson was not

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Speaker 1: the problem in this game. I mean, the guy accounted

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Speaker 1: for three hundred and ninety five yards. Eighty seven percent

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Speaker 1: of Baltimore's offensive output came from Lamar Jackson. And when

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Speaker 1: you and when you looked at the film and saw

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Speaker 1: some of the pass pro problems, the blocking issues that

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Speaker 1: he had to deal with, it was a lot on

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Speaker 1: his plate. You know, he was making something out of nothing.

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Speaker 1: Now he's been under more pressure in his career before, but.

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Speaker 3: Do you mean actual pass rush pressure, not like psychological

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Speaker 3: pressure exactly, more pass rush pressure.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you really dial into the end of

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Speaker 1: the game, and it was tough those last They had

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Speaker 1: three shots to score that last touchdown, on two of

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Speaker 1: this game was about for Lamar and Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Lamar.

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Speaker 3: Look, I give him a lot of credit because I

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Speaker 3: think that if it was basically any other quarterback, maybe

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Speaker 3: been in a much worse position. Like he he's the best,

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Speaker 3: He's the most elusive quarterback to ever play the game.

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Speaker 3: So he can make things happen with his legs while

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Speaker 3: also extending the ball to throw it, and that nobody

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Speaker 3: doing that really throughout the entire game. And he also

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Speaker 2: And but but the bottom line was he was scrambling

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Speaker 3: And I thought that there was lots of instances like

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Speaker 2: I mean, he deserves a ton of credit for that.

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Speaker 3: But what doesn't show up on that play is Lamar

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Speaker 1: I also point to the Ravens first drive as a

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Speaker 1: I'll points to the first drive that really showed Lamar's

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Speaker 1: the high level play that Lamar was playing at. I

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Speaker 1: him to get that ball away to Justice Hill. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a big game, but just to get that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you basically, like you look at the statute, that's

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Speaker 3: take it about that play, but it's like that probably lost.

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Speaker 2: That should have been a sack exactly.

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Speaker 1: And then another play later on that drive, it was

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Speaker 1: think showed to me what we talked about a lot

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Speaker 2: There were a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of instances when you go back and look at the

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Speaker 3: that was I do think that the offense probably doesn't

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Speaker 3: for all of that really difficult environment, three new starters

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Speaker 3: was a lot of conversation around that, like you're mentioning

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Speaker 3: with the second year of Todd Monkin's offense and more

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Speaker 3: his seventh season, I just think he's got such a

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Speaker 3: we're talking about Lamar's film, Chase Daniel from Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: from a NFL quarterback, he did a really great breakdown

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Speaker 3: he highlighted some of this, you know, twenty plus minute

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Speaker 3: And one of the things he also pointed out was

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Speaker 2: I think that this was a really good sign for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to pay a huge dividends this season.

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Speaker 1: I think really pretends to really good things for this

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Speaker 3: In terms of the let's talk about like the end

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Speaker 3: first of all, that throw to Bateman, like that drive

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Speaker 2: Then a sudden the Babman play happens. You're like whoa,

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Speaker 3: And like that play kind of almost gets lost because

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Speaker 3: go back and celebrate that play. But that was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the first play, Lamar's kind of danced around

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that like that's one of those where you

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Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, what was that through? It's right

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Speaker 3: The back angle of it of the film really shows

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Speaker 3: He made nobody's mentioning that like Lamar made the throw

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Speaker 3: The takeaway from me and something that I was really

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Speaker 1: considering we did not see that called the rest of

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Speaker 1: NFL opening weekend or nearly to that degree. But that aside,

439
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a very encouraging start for Ronnie

440
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Speaker 1: and that's a huge part of this offensive line. Was like,

441
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Speaker 1: the raven are banking on Ronnie Stanley to get back

442
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Speaker 1: closer to what he was before, and I think we

443
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Speaker 1: saw that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is huge.

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Speaker 3: And left tackle is obviously one of the most important

446
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Speaker 3: positions of football, and he's a Ronnie is one of

447
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Speaker 3: the most important players on this team, and the Ravens

448
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 3: have questions elsewhere along the offensive line, but left tackle

449
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Speaker 3: is is a sure thing in the sense that you've got,

450
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Speaker 3: you know, one of your veteran players who's holding down

451
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Speaker 3: that spot and he's playing.

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Speaker 2: He's playing. He played at a really high level.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was I thought it was a great

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Speaker 3: start for Ronnie and really encouraging for where he can

455
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Speaker 3: go this year. And I think, like, again, this guy's

456
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Speaker 3: worked hard. He's been working hard. He missed a lot

457
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Speaker 3: of time the last few years, but over the course

458
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Speaker 3: of the summer didn't miss anything. You know, he was

459
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Speaker 3: out there every single day at practice, and I thought

460
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Speaker 3: I thought the results showed, and I thought it was

461
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Speaker 3: a really good start for him.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was also kind of encouraging for andrewe

463
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Speaker 1: Vorhe's who had some struggles during the preseason. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was pretty pretty solid week one effort. Yeah for

465
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Speaker 1: Andrew where he's you know, again, another young player started

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Speaker 1: his first career regular season game out there. That's a

467
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Speaker 1: tough one, but I thought it was a pretty solid

468
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Speaker 1: start for him. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Tyler Lindenbaum, you know what you're gonna get out

470
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Speaker 3: of him. He had fifty one pass blocking snaps, one

471
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Speaker 3: pressure so really solid even on the even on the

472
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Speaker 3: pressure file. Lele was you know, kind of could have

473
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Speaker 3: offered some help. Didn't have anybody to block.

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Speaker 1: Linderbaum got beat pretty quickly to Linderbaum's right in between

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Speaker 1: that gap between he and file Lele and file Lele

476
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Speaker 1: just didn't see, didn't react, you know, just kind of

477
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Speaker 1: could have helped him out and didn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, you know, I think that on the offensive line,

479
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Speaker 3: I think that, look, this is daying off all Ale

480
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Speaker 3: playing right guard for the first time, and I think

481
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Speaker 3: that he's you know, he got a tough assignment against

482
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Speaker 3: Chris Jones, who was kind of walking up and down

483
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Speaker 3: the line and testing out. He would test Title Linderbaum,

484
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Speaker 3: he would test file he would test Roger rose Garden.

485
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Speaker 3: He tested carry like he got Roger rosen Garden.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he got rose Garden. I thought rose Garden

487
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Speaker 1: came back and and for the most part, you know,

488
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Speaker 1: he had one other hiccup on a on another snap,

489
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Speaker 1: but I thought rebounded certainly from the first snap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that, I mean, that play is

491
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Speaker 3: gonna is gonna bother him. I'm sure you know, Roger,

492
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Speaker 3: but I I I'm with you. It's really encouraging that

493
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Speaker 3: he got back out there, and I think played certainly

494
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Speaker 3: better than he did on that snap. And so I

495
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Speaker 3: think the right side of the line is still work

496
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Speaker 3: in progress, and you know they'll have to improve both

497
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Speaker 3: from a pass blocking and a run blocking standpoint. All right,

498
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Speaker 3: so let's flip it over. Well, actually I had another

499
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Speaker 3: offensive note. I had another offensive note here. Yeah, Mark

500
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Speaker 3: Andrews not a big day for him. Isaiah Likely, of course,

501
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Speaker 3: was the Ravens leading pass catcher, had a monster day.

502
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Speaker 3: And there's all this conversation out there right now. Isaiah

503
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Speaker 3: Likely has taken over tight end one for the Ravens,

504
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Speaker 3: and the fantasy owners of course, are all interested in

505
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Speaker 3: that conversation. Like, I think Isaiah Likely is awesome, And

506
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Speaker 3: we said it each you know, one hundred times this

507
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Speaker 3: summer that he was maybe the Ravens' best offensive player

508
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Speaker 3: on the field all summer long training camp, and so

509
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: we are both very high on Isaiah Likely. I think

510
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Speaker 3: that the the people writing off Mark Andrews like that's

511
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Speaker 3: happening too soon.

512
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Speaker 2: If you go look at the film.

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Speaker 3: There was lots like there's lots of There is lots

514
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Speaker 3: and lots of instances where Mark Andrews is bracketed with

515
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Speaker 3: double coverage in this game, and I think the Chiefs

516
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: are really they know how big of how important of

517
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Speaker 3: a target Mark Andrews is to Lamar Jackson, and it

518
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Speaker 3: looked to me like they were game planning to stop

519
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Speaker 3: Mark Andrews. And I think that some of that coverage

520
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Speaker 3: over time, like Isaiah likely caught the Chiefs, I think

521
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Speaker 3: to some extent by surprise. I don't think they were

522
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Speaker 3: expecting him to put up the kind of day that

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Speaker 3: he did.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that the way the defense is

525
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Speaker 1: going to have to beat us through the air, it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be Lamar and Mark.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're saying, you know, I take away Mark Andrews,

528
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Speaker 3: So we're gonna put a safety over top of him,

529
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Speaker 3: and we're gonna have a linebacker double coverage bracket him

530
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Speaker 3: and and Isaiah likely to beat him. But I think

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Speaker 3: that the way that teams play the Ravens is going

532
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Speaker 3: to shift over the course of the year, and there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be games where Mark Andrews has the big day

534
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Speaker 3: and Isaiah likely has you know, three catches, you know,

535
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Speaker 3: I think that that's gonna that'll balance out. So I

536
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Speaker 3: think I think it's more likely for them to have

537
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Speaker 3: similar numbers by the end of the year rather than

538
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Speaker 3: what a lot of people are saying right now, which

539
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Speaker 3: is Isaiah Likely is clearly the best tight end and

540
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Speaker 3: he's just going to run away with a job. I

541
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Speaker 3: think it's going to be much more of a split.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. I do think that it's worth

543
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Speaker 1: noting that Isaiah Likely was the Ravens highest graded run

544
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Speaker 1: blocker period.

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Speaker 2: That actually surprised me.

546
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Speaker 1: Like he threw he puts some chiefs on their butt, Yes,

547
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Speaker 1: and that is really indicative of and tells you that

548
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Speaker 1: the Ravens are able to use those two tight end

549
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Speaker 1: looks more. If he's able to hold up as a

550
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Speaker 1: run blocker, that's just going to be more snaps yeah

551
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Speaker 1: for Isaiah Likely. And they already played in twelve personnel,

552
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Speaker 1: one back, two tight ends more than in any game

553
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Speaker 1: last season, So you know, that's a really good sign

554
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Speaker 1: that he's here to stay. You know, some of those

555
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Speaker 1: get him out in space, like I think, you know,

556
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Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely isn't like a guy who's gonna muscle up

557
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Speaker 1: people right at the line of scrimmage on the end

558
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Speaker 1: of the line, but like, get him in space. I like,

559
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Speaker 1: I really think Isaiah Likely is a very good blocker.

560
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Speaker 1: Out in space.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's when he came into the league. He was

562
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Speaker 3: basically a glorified receiver. He was basically a receiver who

563
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Speaker 3: would dabble, you know, in some of that blocking stuff.

564
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Speaker 3: And so for him he has made such such tremendous

565
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Speaker 3: stries as a run blocker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Physical, he's physical.

567
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Speaker 3: And like he he played, he showed him that game

568
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Speaker 3: like he's committed to it. I mean it was George

569
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Speaker 3: Kittle esque on some of those plays where he's just

570
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Speaker 3: pancaking guys. And so I think that if he can

571
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Speaker 3: continue to play like that, that's I mean that that

572
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Speaker 3: to me, Like the pass catching was great, but that

573
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Speaker 3: that his ability is a run blocker was really telling

574
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Speaker 3: about pancaking.

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Speaker 1: Is pancaking the right term? Pancakings Like you just body

576
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Speaker 1: somebody right on the line and you like lay you

577
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Speaker 1: belly flop on him, you squash him like a pancake. Well,

578
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Speaker 1: he was just tossing about that. He was like a bouncer. Oh,

579
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Speaker 1: there was tossing about the club he did that.

580
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Speaker 3: But there was one in particular where he just bowled

581
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Speaker 3: over one of the just I forget who it was.

582
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Speaker 3: On the Chiefs just ran him straight over.

583
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Speaker 1: But it was out in space.

584
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Speaker 2: It wasn't did he squash him?

585
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Speaker 1: I didn't see any pancakes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're at your getting. You're breaking down like whether

587
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Speaker 2: it classifies the pancakes.

588
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Speaker 3: Pancakes not an official stack, Pat.

589
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Pat.

590
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: We're talking about pancake.

591
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Speaker 3: Pancake doesn't there's not an official line on the stat

592
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Speaker 3: sheet for pancake.

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Speaker 1: We'll ask pancake. Pat with a pancake.

594
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: He's the expert. So we'll get We'll get past the pan.

595
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: Maybe Isaiah likely he waffled.

596
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: Him a different type of breakfast carbs.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Uh, yeah, I do think that was a good note.

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Speaker 1: Let's slip it over to the defense now. Uh. One

599
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Speaker 1: thing that was really caught my eye is Travis Jones.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you Rayvend's players vote he was their

601
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Speaker 1: guy for Breakout Player of the Year, and you saw

602
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Speaker 1: why in this game. You know Travis Jones, the way

603
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: he collapsed the pocket and walked Joe Tuney back into

604
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Speaker 1: Patrick mccote mahomes that really kind of closed an escape

605
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Speaker 1: route for from Homes and led to David Ajaba's sack

606
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: off the edge. Also, Roquan Smith's interception was Travis Jones

607
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: breaking down that pocket just with his push up the middle,

608
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Speaker 1: Like I mean, he played more snafs than Michael Pierce

609
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: and was a fact, big factor on in passing situations

610
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Speaker 1: which you don't really think of from a big old

611
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Speaker 1: nose tackle like him. I thought it was really strong

612
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Speaker 1: game and watch out, watch out for Travis Jones. The

613
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Speaker 1: opponents are going to be watching that film.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a force in the middle, and he's he's

615
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 3: somebody who who like similar to Michael Pierce. Like, I

616
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Speaker 3: don't think Travis Jones is ever going to be like

617
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: He's not gonna be a double digit sack guy, but

618
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: he is disruptive and then that's going to create opportunities

619
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Speaker 3: for those around him, and that's going to lead to like,

620
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Speaker 3: you know, he should get credit on an Ajaba sack.

621
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Speaker 2: You know, there should be.

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Speaker 1: Like a half sack on that.

623
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there.

624
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Speaker 3: Should be like a little you know, an asterisk or

625
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Speaker 3: something that like that interception was created by But the

626
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: coaches know that, of course, and I think he's gonna, yeah,

627
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: the players know it, and I think that he's going

628
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 3: to continue to make an impact like that.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Another note for me defensively, Trenton Simpson. You know,

630
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: you saw from the snap counts it wasn't the three

631
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: down linebacker role that Patrick Queen had really last year,

632
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Speaker 1: and it was p Q and Roqwan we're playing one

633
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the snaps. That was not the case

634
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: for Trent and Simpson. And and that's what we expected,

635
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: right We were saying that all preseason and training camp.

636
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: As good as Trenton is, he probably comes off the

637
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: field on third down. Now, it was more MALIEK. Harrison

638
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: replacing him than I expected, you know, and Malie Harrison

639
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't good one on Pachecko basically had to put

640
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: him on skates in the open field. That's a tough

641
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: assignment for MALIEK. Harrison, who's run thumper. You're in the

642
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: open field against Pachecko, who's got super fast feet, super shifty.

643
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: You know, that was that was a tough play for

644
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Speaker 1: Mileeke Harrison. But I do wonder, after seeing the success

645
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Speaker 1: that the Chiefs had throwing the ball over the middle

646
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: and with that linebacker combination, if he sees a higher

647
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: percentage of passing downs moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good question.

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00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: The other defensive note that I had is that it

650
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Speaker 3: was a strong game from a dafe Oway.

651
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By PFF.

653
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: He was the second highest graded player on the team

654
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: behind Isaiah Likely. And you know, I think that he

655
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: always he's an impactful player. Now, I think that he's

656
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: probably gonna he's probably still bothered by the play where

657
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: Mahomes slipped out of his graps and then grasp and

658
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: then threw it down the field that Travis kelce for

659
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: a big game, you know, I think that those are

660
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: the ones that he'll just he needs to clean up

661
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: and finish those plays. But overall, like a dafae Oway

662
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: was a disruptive player. He's another one who he praised

663
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: all throughout training camp for the impact that he was

664
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Speaker 3: making kind of living in the backfield. And I think

665
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: that we saw that in the preseason or in the

666
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Speaker 3: regular season game.

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Speaker 1: Yep. I agree with that the real black guy for

668
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: the defense was the balloo and coverage on the one play.

669
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think would I would put it into the

670
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: bucket of like overall communication because they had to blow

671
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: two timeouts early because there was confusion over alignment, and

672
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: then the coach.

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Speaker 1: John Arbeal said there was substitution communication issues going on,

674
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Speaker 1: So they have things to clean up certainly before week two. Defensively,

675
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: in terms of that, I'm sure this week in practice

676
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: communication making sure you're being loud, making sure you know

677
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: everybody's on the same page, that'll be a huge point

678
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Speaker 1: of emphasis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we talked about the challenge for like the

680
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: offensive line in that environment really tough for the defense too.

681
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: Now it's not you're not dealing with the noise factor

682
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: in the same way as you are on the offensive

683
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: side of the ball. But road game, first game for

684
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: a new coordinator, it's different. It's a challenge. You're going

685
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: up against the you know, the best offense, you know,

686
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: with with the two time or the two time Super

687
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: Bowl champs. Like, it's a challenging test there. So I

688
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: think that that's going to improve. I really don't think

689
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: that's going to be something that plagues this defense throughout

690
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: the season.

691
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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. All right, when we come back,

692
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about what we saw from the

693
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Speaker 1: rest of the AFC North over the weekend and what

694
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Speaker 1: that could tell us about where the Ravens stack up

695
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: in this division.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Lounge podcast, We're coming to you

697
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: from the Seakeeek Studio. We also want to give a

698
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Speaker 3: shout out to our friends at DraftKings Sportsbook. They are

699
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Speaker 3: an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draftking Sportsbook.

700
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Speaker 3: The Crown is yours. So as I watched games, first

701
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: of all, it's you know, we very rarely get like

702
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: a Sunday, especially week one. Never have a week one

703
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: where you just get to watch the rest of the NFL.

704
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Speaker 2: It was nice. It was perfect fall day.

705
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Speaker 3: It was it was nice to be able to sit

706
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Speaker 3: in front of the TV, made some wings.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you got to do that. That's really I'm

708
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: happy for you.

709
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: You didn't get to so any of your takeaways from

710
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Speaker 3: week one, we can just throw out the windows watch

711
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Speaker 3: any games.

712
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Speaker 1: I was moditoring my fantasy team and I was keeping

713
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: an eye on the AMC scores, But sitting in front

714
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Speaker 1: of the TV with some wings, No, it's great. It

715
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Speaker 1: was great Sunday.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

717
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Speaker 3: So here's what I felt when I watched the rest

718
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Speaker 3: of the division and honestly the NFL overall, the Ravens

719
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Speaker 3: are once again one of the best teams in football.

720
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Speaker 3: Like I I that was my expectation coming into the

721
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: season and you lose the first game. Disappointing, But I

722
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: felt like the Ravens and the Chiefs were just two

723
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: playoff teams who are neck and neck, and either of

724
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: them you play the game one hundred times and Mike

725
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: go fifty to fifty.

726
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Speaker 1: Well, they said after the game, both teams were pretty

727
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: open about saying, yeah, we'll see each other again.

728
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mahomes said it, Roquan said it like that.

729
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: That was a players on both sides.

730
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Speaker 2: Yes, So I.

731
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Speaker 3: Think that there's a very real possibility of it, And

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Speaker 3: I just think as I watched games that belief was

733
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Speaker 3: even more confirmed. And then when you watch the rest

734
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Speaker 3: of the teams in the division, just to recap before

735
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: because I know you didn't see any of them. No,

736
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: but I like the Browns had major issues.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Wants had a rough day. I think it

738
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: was he completed zero passes of ten or more yards

739
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Speaker 1: down the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he finished the day with one hundred and sixty

741
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Speaker 3: nine passing yards, one touchdown, two interceptions of fifty one

742
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Speaker 3: quarterback rating.

743
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Speaker 2: He was sacked six times.

744
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: They had, they had, I saw the film cutups.

745
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had.

746
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Speaker 3: They had major offensive line issues there without two tackles,

747
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 3: so like he had a lot of pressure on him,

748
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: but he had his own struggles. And so the Browns

749
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: at home, they were favored over the Cowboys into their house.

750
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: Cowboys are a good team too now, of course, but

751
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: like that was a really disappointing showing for them, and

752
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: you know, I think that there's there's concern there. Bengals,

753
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: they are more than a touchdown favorite at home against

754
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: the Patriots, and you know, their their offense did not

755
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: look good the entire day. Joe Burrow finished just twenty

756
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: one to twenty nine, one hundred and sixty four passing yards,

757
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: no touchdowns. And when I when I watched it, Higgins

758
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: didn't play. Jamar Chase did play but was limited. I mean,

759
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Speaker 3: they've got receiver issues that Te Higgins was injured.

760
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase coind of back up one second to the Browns.

761
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Speaker 1: You know, the Browns defense is is kind of their

762
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Speaker 1: calling card. Yeah, that strong. Thirty three points the Cowboys, Yeah,

763
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Speaker 1: thirty three. Yeah, No, it was I mean, I think

764
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Speaker 1: there's still gonna be a good d but that that's

765
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Speaker 1: not that's not great.

766
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Speaker 2: No, it was, it was not great. It was not great.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Cowboys just just kind of controlled that

768
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Speaker 3: game from start to finish.

769
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Speaker 1: They had a punt return for a touchdown.

770
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Speaker 3: Cowboys still and so and then with you know, the

771
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Speaker 3: Bengals like to me, the the Bengals have this receiver

772
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Speaker 3: situation where Jamar Chase. It basically went up until kickoffice

773
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: whether or not the sky is gonna play or not

774
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: give him the contract situation. He did play, but that's lingering.

775
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: Te Higgins did not play. And and you have Burrow

776
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Speaker 3: coming off the injury, and like the question with Burrow

777
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 3: is what's his health situation? How like is he fully

778
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: he wears he's wearing the sleeve now and at times

779
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 3: in that game he's like flexing his hand and testing

780
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: out the wrists and putting on.

781
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: A glove, Like I don't know what his like.

782
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: Certainly we're we're not in the Bengals medical room to

783
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: have a sense of like how healthy his hand and

784
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: wrist is. But their offense look more like a dink

785
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: and dunk office than it offense than it has and

786
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: it seems like they're not really able to push the

787
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: ball down the field.

788
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: It didn't seem like they wanted to do that.

789
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Speaker 1: That is that is my biggest takeaway is more from

790
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Speaker 1: a health standpoint. I think I think the Ravens have

791
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: put the film out there on how to defend Joe

792
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: Burrow in the Bengals offense a little bit. It's it is,

793
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: do not make them go dink and dunk under. You know,

794
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: give him the give him the decision, here's what you're

795
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna take. You dictate what he's gonna take. And you

796
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: don't give up any of that big stuffs in Jamar

797
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: Chase and t Higgins. You make him just go short.

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00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean he has not. Yeah, the last time he played, okay,

799
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: it was against the Ravens now he left early one

800
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: hundred and one yards in that passing game on seventeen attempts,

801
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: seventeen stemps high.

802
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say he hasn't uh hasn't

803
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: had thrown for any yards since that game.

804
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really struggled. But yeah, I mean I think

805
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: it's getting his yards per attempt down and that that's

806
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: what we haven't seen from Joe Burrow is kind of

807
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: going down the field.

808
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: And what I don't know, again, I don't know if

809
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: it's health, you know, like it just didn't seem like

810
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: just watching the game. It didn't seem like, man, that

811
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: risk injury is something that's a distant memory here, He's not

812
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: even thinking about it, like again flexing the hand at times.

813
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Speaker 1: I think. I think part of it is, you know,

814
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: you're talking to top monk about what you need in

815
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and part of it is extending plays, making plays,

816
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: unscripted plays and all that stuff. And like Lamar's ability

817
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: to do that to Shaun Watson's inability to do that, right,

818
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: you saw crystal clear difference between those two guys who

819
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: are under pressure. Yeah, Lamar made plays right and Burrow

820
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: just you know, he can sometimes get out and run

821
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: on you a little bit, but he's not a guy

822
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: that really extends plays in that way. Right. So, Like

823
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: that's where I think in the NFL these days, you

824
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: get so many of those chunk plays like the Isaiah

825
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: Likely touchdown, right, is extended plays making something happen, And

826
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Speaker 1: that's not how Joe Burrow operates. And in today's defenses,

827
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Speaker 1: that are all you know, this latest kind of in

828
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Speaker 1: vogue defense is really those two high safeties take away

829
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: the big plays you know that went way down last

830
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Speaker 1: year in the NFL. Yeah, And I think that that

831
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: is to Joe Burrow's detriment, that's a challenge for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could gainst that kind of right, you could

833
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: be right on that. I'm not necessarily going like I'm

834
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: not sure I'm completely there.

835
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Speaker 1: I mean, is Joe Burrow going to hit some more

836
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: deep play? Is the season yet? I just hit some?

837
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: But I think that that's that's his challenge.

838
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 3: I think that for the for the Bengals, like they

839
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 3: have been historically a team that's kind of started slow,

840
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: and so that's the thing you kind of wonder, like

841
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 3: is this just another have we seen this story before?

842
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: Then they come on strong? You know, Jamar Chase didn't

843
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 3: practice basically all summer, so like there's there's you know,

844
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: if you get Jamar Chase at full strength and Ti

845
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: Higgins on the field, isn't a much different offense. Possibly,

846
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 3: But that's where the health question, like that's a question

847
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: you know to me, is how he's going to come

848
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: back from this major injury, major throwing wrist injury, and

849
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: so like how how does he come back from that?

850
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: I think is something that everybody's kind of curious to see.

851
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: And then the last thing I'll say, just on the

852
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: division it's like the steel So the Steelers win, they're

853
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: the one team in the AFC North that starts.

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00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: Want to know the Steelers is.

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00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: Going to be on top of the division at any

856
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: point this season.

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00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: Well frankly, but they start the season one or no uh.

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00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: And they they they win a game, they don't score

859
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 3: a touchdown.

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00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: They just kicked a whole bunch of.

861
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: Field goals against the Falcons.

862
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: And I mean, the Steelers defense is really good. I

863
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: mean TJ.

864
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: Watt is once again gonna look like he could be

865
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 2: He's awesome.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's so disruptive. Their defense is great. I mean,

868
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: and that and you saw that the Falcons really couldn't

869
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: do much of anything offensively. That's why in Atlanta the

870
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: conversation this morning is Kirk Cousins and maybe you saw

871
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: why they draft to Michael Pennix. You know, it was

872
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 3: like that's what people are talking about down in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: So the Steelers defense has that ability, and I think, like,

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00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: I just think it's a classic Steelers win. Like their

875
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Speaker 3: offense didn't do much, but they didn't make the.

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Speaker 1: Mistakes and they play still have still have quarterback problems,

877
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: but they won, they.

878
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: Won, and like the kind of ugly they.

879
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: Did it, kind of ugly, but it doesn't matter. And

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00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: Justin Fields did enough to win ran at times when

881
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: they needed him to run. And it'll be curious whether

882
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: they stick with Fields, whether they go back to Russell Wilson.

883
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what they're going to do there. But

884
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Speaker 3: I just think that, like when you play the Steelers,

885
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: when the Ravens play the Steelers, it's going to be

886
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Speaker 3: another you know.

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00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: Flobber knocker.

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00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, yeah, And like they're great defenses and

889
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: the Steelers don't beat themselves and that's exactly how they

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Speaker 3: play in Week one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's who they are. I mean, the

892
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Speaker 1: Ravens gotta the Ravens have had a better team than

893
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Steelers for multiple years on in a row here, but

894
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Speaker 1: the Steelers have been on the wings side side too

895
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: many of those times, So Ravens are gonna have to

896
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: figure that out. I do think, just to wrap this up,

897
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Speaker 1: the Ravens are the best team in division. I don't think.

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00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: I think that that's pretty clear. And and and also

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Speaker 1: the other big takeaway just from Week one, and maybe

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Speaker 1: this is too much to say, but I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of talk about the AFC North is by

902
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Speaker 1: far the best division in football? Is it? Is? It?

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Speaker 1: Definitely from what we saw one right, what what would

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Speaker 1: you say? Is like, what would I don't know? I mean,

905
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: the NFC West is pretty darn good. I mean, I

906
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: know the Rams lost the lines, but that was a

907
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: pretty overtime game and a very good team Seahawks won

908
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: in Mike McDonald's first game. Yeah, the NFC West is

909
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: going to be a that's a tough division.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be where my mind goes. You know,

911
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: Arizona gave Buffalo run for their money to faltered late.

912
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Speaker 3: But you know, I think the the NFC West is

913
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Speaker 3: good yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And we'll see how good the Jets are. We'll

915
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Speaker 1: see Monday night. But you know, is the is the

916
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Speaker 1: AFC East pretty good? I mean the Bills rallied Now

917
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Speaker 1: they Cardinals put a scare into them, but they rallied

918
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Speaker 1: and end up win. Josh Allen scored what four touchdowns?

919
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: Right?

920
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Uh? You know the Dolphins are gonna be a good team.

921
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: You know they are started hot, got off to a

922
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: good start. Again, How good are the Jets?

923
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the question.

924
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Speaker 3: And and honestly, just big picture again on the whole AFC,

925
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Speaker 3: Like you're gonna need to win ten games to make

926
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, you know, and that could be a tiebreaker

927
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Speaker 3: situation situation because you're gonna have Chargers Jim Harwall's debut.

928
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Speaker 3: They went out there and won. Like, there's a lot

929
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: of really good teams in the a f C. With

930
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: those that competition for those final few spots is going

931
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Speaker 3: to be really.

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Speaker 1: Tight, so I will say, uh, you just bring up

933
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Speaker 1: the Chargers. It was cool to see JK Dobbins out

934
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Speaker 1: there gallup. Yeah, that was. That was pretty cool to

935
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: see Joe Ortie's getting a game ball in the locker

936
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Speaker 1: roots where it's Jim Harball. And I just especially feel

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Speaker 1: good for JK Dobbins after what he's gone through, Like

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Speaker 1: I wanted it to work here so badly for him

939
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Speaker 1: and to see it come together in that way and

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Speaker 1: week one what's pretty cool for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

942
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Speaker 3: It was a good moment for JK and that Chargers team.

943
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: Like I think I think that a lot of Ravens

944
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 3: fans can root for them like right now. But but

945
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: but that's going to change pretty quickly when all a sudden,

946
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Speaker 3: the Chargers are competing for you know, you're in the

947
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: middle of a playoff race and the Chargers are right

948
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: there with you because because Jim Harbaugh's turning that team

949
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: around and Geortis and and the watch of Ravens out there.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, So anyway, that's our takeaway from those our

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Speaker 3: takeaway from week one. As always, we love to hear

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Speaker 3: from you, so send us your emails with the lounge

953
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Speaker 3: at Ravens at NFL dot net. Uh make sure you

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