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Speaker 1: I am officially on my High and Mighty tour. April

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Speaker 1: tenth is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater. April

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Speaker 1: eleventh Indianapolis, Indiana. April twelfth Louisville, Kentucky. April sixteenth is Albuquerque,

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Speaker 1: New Mexico. April seventeenth is Mesa, Arizona. April twenty third

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Speaker 1: is Kansas City, Missouri. April twenty fourth is Saint Louis, Missouri.

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Speaker 1: April twenty fifth is Minneapolis, Minnesota. April thirtieth Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: May first is Charlotte, North Carolina. May second is Durham,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. May sixth I'm doing Netflix as a Joke Festival.

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Speaker 1: I will be in Los Angeles May fifteenth, Saratoga, California.

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Speaker 1: May sixteenth, Monterey, California. May seventeenth Modesto, California, and then

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Speaker 1: June fourth Portchester, New York. June fifth is Boston, mass

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Speaker 1: And June twelfth is Portland, Oregon. And then Seattle is

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Speaker 1: June thirteenth. I am doing a second show at the

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Speaker 1: Paramount Theater in Denver on Saturday, December fifth, So suck

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Speaker 1: on that, everybody. Go to Chelseahandler dot com. For tickets.

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Speaker 1: Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea, How's New York? New York City

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Speaker 1: is beautiful? It's beautiful here, It's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It says spring day.

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Speaker 1: There's no snow, but everyone's still talking about the snow.

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Speaker 1: But the snow was gone. I did a lot of

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Speaker 1: press yesterday. We're talking about my dating app. That's not

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Speaker 1: a dating app. It's just on my Instagram, but people

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Speaker 1: are calling it a dating app and it.

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Speaker 3: Was your socials team prepared for.

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Speaker 1: This, No, they're never prepared for anything I do. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't even prepared for it. I didn't realize how many

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Speaker 1: dms were going to come through, and you know, that's

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Speaker 1: just me never thinking things through. But I really do

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Speaker 1: want to let my people know, the people who are

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Speaker 1: listening to this podcast I am. I really do want

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Speaker 1: to help people meet each other. And I do want

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Speaker 1: to find like cool men for women to hook up with,

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Speaker 1: because I do believe they're out there and many of

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Speaker 1: them are getting divorced or have gotten divorced. So there

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Speaker 1: are good men out there and some of them, you know,

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Speaker 1: But like, we have to through all of this. So

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Speaker 1: I'll be getting updates right and I'll be giving updates

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Speaker 1: I'm not. We're doing it. It's on so like it's happening.

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Speaker 1: I just need a bigger team of people and I'm

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Speaker 1: more of a bandwidth. But I have hooked up like

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Speaker 1: two gay guys. I've hooked up two separate gay guys,

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Speaker 1: and a straight couple have gone on a date.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're a regular grinder over here.

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Speaker 1: So this is happening. It's working. It's just we haven't

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Speaker 1: figured out what the next you know, formal iteration of

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Speaker 1: my dating service is going to be. And I don't

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Speaker 1: even want to call it a dating service because I

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Speaker 1: can't commit to doing this, but I am going to

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Speaker 1: try and help anyway. That's what's happening in New York.

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving tomorrow. I have new shows that I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I've just announced a whole new batch of shows for

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Speaker 1: the second leg of my High and Mighty tour, and

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Speaker 1: I've added second shows, and I am coming to all

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Speaker 1: the cities that I haven't been to yet that you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen, So go to Chelseaandler dot com. I'll be

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Speaker 1: in New York, Atlanta, blah blahlah of Vancouver, tons of places.

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Speaker 1: We just announced it. So I'll be performing and touring

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Speaker 1: through the end of the year, So come and see

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Speaker 1: me and go to Chelseahandler dot com for your tickets

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Speaker 1: for the High and Mighty tour. And then our guest

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Speaker 1: this week is very exciting. Who you know what? She

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Speaker 1: was real fucking funny and I didn't know she was

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Speaker 1: gonna be funny so funny. I was really not expecting

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Speaker 1: that neither. So you guys are in for a real treat.

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Speaker 1: She's an actress that you know from Daisy Jones and

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Speaker 1: The Six and The Night Manager. You can find her

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Speaker 1: in Netflix's Something Very Bad Is Going to Happen and

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Speaker 1: The Age of Innocence. Please welcome Camilla Morone. Okay, great,

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Speaker 1: let's go.

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Speaker 2: I see that you wear shoes on your couch.

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Speaker 1: I don't give a shit what you put on my

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Speaker 1: to your.

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Speaker 2: House, and I was like, should I take my shoes off?

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Speaker 2: From such a New Yorker? I'm like, do I take

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Speaker 1: Is that in New York?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: New York is yeah, you go like a dead body

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Speaker 1: on the bottom of your true lie. I honestly don't

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Speaker 1: like when I think about moving to New York, which

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Speaker 1: at some point I will do because I have to

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Speaker 1: live in New York at some point. That's just hard. No,

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Speaker 1: And I'm from New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Well now it's my fit. Not like my favorite pastime

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Speaker 2: is like converting people. I've made it at nine, Like

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Speaker 2: my number is crazy. I'm like really good at getting

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Speaker 2: people move to New York. Really and I find it

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, it is a good you want

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Speaker 1: to be you want.

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Speaker 2: To live here? What? What?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: How long have you lived in New York?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: I live in New York for three years? But I

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Speaker 2: act as if I like built the city with my hand.

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Speaker 2: I'm like the Brooklyn Bridge, I did it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what prompted you to move to New York?

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Speaker 1: Because you're from La, you grew up here, You're already raised.

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Speaker 2: My man went to school in Santa Monica. I went

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Speaker 2: to school in the Valley. I went to school all over.

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Speaker 2: I went to Beverly Hills. So I had divorce parents

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Speaker 2: that were fighting about, you know, where to live. So

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Speaker 2: I have lived everywhere. But then I just felt like

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Speaker 2: post pandemic. I thought it. You know, things changed obviously

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Speaker 2: in LA, and I just thought I wanted to do

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Speaker 2: something that I just wanted to like wake up and

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Speaker 2: go to the theater if I wanted to, which I

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Speaker 2: don't ever do, but I could do it.

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Speaker 1: It's not usually yeah, usually in the morning.

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Speaker 2: So New York is crazy or I'm sure there is

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Speaker 2: some bit. I got a little bit, you know, bord

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Speaker 2: of LA, and I didn't want to be in the

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Speaker 2: want to maybe go for a walk. If I want

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Speaker 2: to go for I haven't. I didn't recreationally walk in

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Speaker 2: LA in twenty five years. I don't think I ever

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Speaker 2: went for like a walk. Do you walk? No?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't walk here. I don't. I don't do

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Speaker 1: anything here because I feel I'm with you on the

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Speaker 1: LA thing, Like I was going to move to New

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Speaker 1: York and then this house kind of took longer than

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Speaker 1: I anticipated, and so I kind of put a pin

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Speaker 2: Well everything closes like nine pm. Like what if you

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Speaker 2: want to go to Koreatown at eleven thirty? Like I

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Speaker 2: so like I have the option. Yeah, right, I only

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Speaker 2: found myself being more fun in New York. I'll like

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Speaker 2: when I can get in and all that. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: Are you a subway person?

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Speaker 2: Like? I take the train everywhere. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: think you. I mean I get really sick in the

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Speaker 2: back of like ubers, and I hate being schlept and

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Speaker 2: I hate small talk. I hate I hate under like

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Speaker 2: the person that all the uber jars are like. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: how are you even like? Well, actually, my wife left me.

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Speaker 2: She's been sitting with my my best friend for thirty

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Speaker 2: five years, and I found out yesterday. And I'm in

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Speaker 2: the back like being shoved around Manhattan like a bound

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Speaker 2: the train, yeah great.

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Speaker 1: I don't like underground transportation. There's something about that smell

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Speaker 2: Trains are very clean.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I believe you, but I probably won't find

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Speaker 2: I don't think you need to. You can sell this

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Speaker 2: house and never take a train again.

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Speaker 1: Or take trains for the rest of my life, depending

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Speaker 1: on how that goes. Wait, first of all, I can't

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Speaker 1: step looking at your eyebrows because they are so perfectly quaffed,

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Speaker 1: if you will, And do you use anything for your eyebrows?

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Speaker 1: Because my makeup artistated to me yesterday and I had

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Speaker 2: And well loved it. I've actually never the one thing

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Speaker 2: that I listened to my mother too. Things she was like,

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Speaker 2: all her fergers removed, her transcamp removed. And then she

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Speaker 2: kind of grateful that I didn't do. But I've never

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Speaker 1: So what do you do to bruss them like that?

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Speaker 2: I just yeah, I brush them.

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Speaker 1: They look good. They look really good.

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Speaker 2: You know, I have to embrace it.

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Speaker 1: You're Argentine, right, And that's a prop way to say Argentinian.

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Speaker 2: I argely don't know Argentinian Argentine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you should find out I'm Argentinian. I'll ask okay, yeah, yeah, please,

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Speaker 1: I say it correctly. Well, especially if you're not from there.

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Speaker 1: I want to pay with like the right amount of respect.

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Speaker 2: Argentine or Argentinian has to be politically correct.

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Speaker 1: You speak Spanish, yes, yeah, okay, And both of your

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Speaker 2: Or Argentine or Argentech's I don't know there. My mom

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Speaker 2: from Winnoes Aireis and Argentina, and they met at a

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Speaker 2: club called Tequila that is still a club. And my

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Speaker 2: a twenty seven year old male supermodel named Maximo Moron,

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Speaker 2: and she was like, I'm going to move to parents

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Speaker 2: And then like very shortly after, they very much did

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Speaker 2: and you're that baby. That's the only way they ever had.

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Speaker 2: And then what happened, I mean, what do you think happened?

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Speaker 2: I have a cloud gone Tequila and there was a

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Speaker 2: divorce about seven years after because of which is who

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Speaker 2: knows what was part of that divorce.

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Speaker 1: So you bounced around a lot between your mom and

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Speaker 1: your dad in Los Angeles? And how was that?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I mean I hated it. Like I had to

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Speaker 2: pack a little doggie bag every week and like bring

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Speaker 2: all my schoolwork and all my you know, like my

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Speaker 2: wouldn't let me. I mean, just like typical child of

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Speaker 2: divorce parents stuff. But I got to live all over LA.

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Speaker 2: I mean they were like my dad was like I

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Speaker 2: want to surf in Santa Monica. My mom's like I

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Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to sit on a freeway

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Speaker 2: ever again. But this freeway that we actually just passed

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Speaker 2: me here, that was my freeway. I know that freeway

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Speaker 2: very well. Were you triggered, Yeah, call my therapist immediately.

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Speaker 2: What are there?

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Speaker 1: But aren't there some advantages to having divorced parents, Like

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Speaker 3: there's way more people who live in South America who

436
00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,800
Speaker 3: speak a different kind of Spanish.

437
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Speaker 2: That Spain, and like not understanding there, like.

438
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,480
Speaker 1: List, I can't.

439
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they use the word a lot, which means to fuck.

440
00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,040
Speaker 2: They use it for everything.

441
00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so that was night Manager, you got to go

442
00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,560
Speaker 1: to all these fun places and that was not why

443
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,560
Speaker 1: you were in Sevilla.

444
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,800
Speaker 2: Though, No, that was Age of Innocence.

445
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,159
Speaker 1: Age of Innocence was why you're in Seville. That's not

446
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,680
Speaker 1: out yet.

447
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,680
Speaker 2: That is not out because I wrapped it yesterday, so okay,

448
00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,359
Speaker 2: this is okay.

449
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,240
Speaker 1: So well so I shot okay, so it doesn't matter.

450
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,639
Speaker 1: I just want to keep track of the fact that

451
00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,840
Speaker 1: you have four different projects going. Okay, so people who

452
00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,200
Speaker 1: watching this, no, which one were my shotguns?

453
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,000
Speaker 2: A Girl with Patricia Arquette, the story about Hunter s Thompson.

454
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,879
Speaker 2: We love that that was a film, and then we

455
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,679
Speaker 2: did Night Manager in all those amazing countries, and then

456
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,600
Speaker 2: Something Very Bad, which is coming out this week.

457
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,640
Speaker 1: How do you feel about horror films in general?

458
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh kaes, this is what we're talking about.

459
00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,000
Speaker 2: I actually wasn't a horror fan growing up. Like I

460
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 2: saw the trailer or a poster for Chucky and I

461
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,320
Speaker 2: didn't sleep for fifteen years. Like I created the story

462
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,679
Speaker 2: of what Chuck he does. I don't even need to

463
00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,000
Speaker 2: know the plot line. I was like, it's a little redheaded,

464
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,439
Speaker 2: creepy doll that's like under the bed and stuff, and

465
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,560
Speaker 2: I know he's out to get me. Yeah. And then

466
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 2: I saw When a Stranger Calls, which destroyed me. Still

467
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 2: to this day, if I see uknown number on my phone,

468
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,879
Speaker 2: I'm certain of someone the call is coming from inside

469
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,440
Speaker 2: the house. And I was totally traumatized my whole childhood

470
00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,760
Speaker 2: and I would like make my dad check the bed

471
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 2: and all the things. And then when I got a

472
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 2: little older, and actually for this project, I started watching

473
00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 2: like a wider range of horror films that like weren't

474
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,560
Speaker 2: meant to like traumatize you for life, and I fall

475
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 2: in love with horror. Yeah, I really love it now.

476
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 1: I feel like is better to watch for me personally

477
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,959
Speaker 1: because I have like a jumping in stink. Yeah, is

478
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,120
Speaker 1: a on a plane when I'm surrounded by people.

479
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 2: Right. I never watched something at night right and during

480
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Speaker 2: the day.

481
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,320
Speaker 1: But I can be on a plane at night as

482
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Speaker 1: long as the window's open, then I'm okay. And if

483
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm on this inf I'm on the window.

484
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 2: I do daytime always, and I will probably most of

485
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 2: the time cover one of my sensories, Like if it's

486
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 2: something scary, I'll probably cover my ears. So I don't

487
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,400
Speaker 2: get both. I can't like watch something scary and hear

488
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,680
Speaker 2: something scary. I have to pick.

489
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Speaker 1: What about violence?

490
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 2: I don't like love blood and guts and horror, like

491
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't love that. And that's what I

492
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 2: love about the shows that it's not like organs filling

493
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 2: out and like row nails being rippy.

494
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Speaker 3: It's like just a creepy ambiyonce. And what I liked

495
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 3: about it too is they'll set something up and you're like, Okay,

496
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: you know this girl is like going into these scenarios

497
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 3: and it's very creepy and like, why doesn't she and

498
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 3: then they solve it, and then there's like a new scenario,

499
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 3: so it's like it's not just like a one and done,

500
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 3: Like there's a real layered story.

501
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 1: There, and sometimes that's creepier than the actual. But I

502
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 1: really don't like violence, Like when I see men hitting

503
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,239
Speaker 1: men or women violence against women, I cannot watch it all.

504
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 1: But I just can't even watch it. I end up

505
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 1: closing my eyes half the movie. So if it's too violent,

506
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 1: it's like a weight it's wasted on me.

507
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this show is cool because it's more of a

508
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 2: psychological thriller I think than like and I think maybe

509
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: perhaps they don't like the traditional horror in the sense

510
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 2: of like blood and guts and violence. I like more

511
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: of the slow burn psychological torture.

512
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Speaker 1: You know who else is Argentinian or Argentine? Anya?

513
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 3: Anya Taylor Joy?

514
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know her?

515
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 2: She was just in Progue when I was filming and

516
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 2: we didn't get to meet up, but she was filming something.

517
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: But we know each other just casually from like award

518
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 2: shows and stuff. Since I go to so many awards.

519
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 2: Its probably one that it's so funny.

520
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: Because I was at Glastonbury this year, I met her

521
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 1: at Glastonbury and she was in the crew that I

522
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 1: was hanging out with, and I had no idea she

523
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Speaker 1: was Argentinian or Argentine We're gonna get to the bottom of.

524
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 2: This, or someone will for us exactly. Yeah, don't worry,

525
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 2: they'll get to us before we can even get to Yes.

526
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 1: But we had this beautiful conversation which I've been kind

527
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: of taking on the road with me and taking ownership

528
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: of because it was about ascension, like about how women

529
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: are never like cooked. We're constantly growing and constantly learning.

530
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 1: Because we were talking about our age differences, and I

531
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: was experiencing like a really fun career moment at that time,

532
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 1: and I was like, she's like, that's so awesome, and

533
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm fifty years old, Like how

534
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: can you believe like that? That's like a peak that

535
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: I never thought I would peak or have.

536
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: A more basic diapter.

537
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're told after forty that you're like useless. Yeah,

538
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, some of my best career moments have

539
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: happened between forty and fifty, and now that I'm fifty one,

540
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: I just turned fifty one, I'm like, I'm more excited

541
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: now than ever because I look at everything as an ascension.

542
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: Like now, I'm like, as long as women are here,

543
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: especially for women, as long as we're here, we're in

544
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: ascension where and when we die then it's over. Like

545
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Speaker 1: the idea that you can't do something like I learned

546
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Speaker 1: how to be a kick ask heier when I was

547
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Speaker 1: like forty three forty four years old. People usually are like,

548
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: I didn't learn how to ski? Well why I was.

549
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: Thankful to my parents because I'm not like those skiers

550
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: on the slopes that has like the little hit movements.

551
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: And they've all been in classince there were two. And

552
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: I was like you and I. He's never made me

553
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: stick to any sports, and now I'm not good at anything,

554
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: like I hate you guys. But they were like, you

555
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: can go out there and try. So it's good to

556
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: know that I can become a great skier and now I.

557
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: Can ski ski. Most people like that. I even meet,

558
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, people that live in with I have a

559
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: house in Whistle, Canada. When I go there, like people

560
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: that live there, I ski better than they do.

561
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 2: My mom got dropped. She on helly skiing yesterday in

562
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: Switzerland called me from the bottom hysterically crying. She was

563
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: like a powder is so hard. Nobody told me there

564
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: was no way down, but so fun. I've long like

565
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: got the like slowed down. The entire crew that she

566
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: was with. She'd never helly skied. She was with these

567
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: like really good skiers and they dropped her off and

568
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 2: she was falling the entire time. She's like, I was

569
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 2: just like I was buried under The powder was awful.

570
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: So it's hard, but powder skiing's hard. If you've never

571
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: powder skied, yeah, I have. I had that problem, you, yeah,

572
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: because it's deep and it's like everything you learn about skiing.

573
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: It's kind of the opposite technique for powder. You don't

574
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: do much. You just kind of hop and bounce around.

575
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: But it's really scary. You going hell is skiing already.

576
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: And then if you don't know how to.

577
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: Skiing a helicopter and I don't want to ski on

578
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: the top of it, and you don't want to jump

579
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: out of a helicopter. So I don't think the combination

580
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: is meant for me. But I am down, I am adventurous.

581
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: I would do I would do it.

582
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: So back to ascension, that's a female ascension and women ascension.

583
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Speaker 1: How old are you right now?

584
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: Twenty eight.

585
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my god, you're a baby.

586
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: No, but it doesn't feel like that. I feel all

587
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: the things that you're saying. It's actually really real. It's

588
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: so weird, and it's like almost as it's like almost thirty,

589
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: and it sounds like, you know, thirty is such a baby.

590
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: But it's like my friends are actually starting to like

591
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: get engaged and get married, and most of my friends

592
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: have babies already at twenty eight.

593
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, why, why do they have babies already?

594
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

595
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was out of style, and you're they're.

596
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: Like having babies, but they're kind of like you know,

597
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 2: even my dad was like, you know, you have to

598
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: you know, if you're going to date somebody now, it's

599
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: kind of got to be your person because you're like

600
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: almost thirty. And I'm like, I'm almost thirty, Like what

601
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: does that mean?

602
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: No, I take scared, but it's so but it's you

603
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: have so much to look forward to, like I wish

604
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: when we were our age. Actually this is the moment

605
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: because I'm so much older than you, and I can

606
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: tell you have so much to look forward to. Like

607
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: you're twenty eight, you already have a huge career. You

608
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: already have a full life, You're already living in New York.

609
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: Like your life is just going to get better and

610
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: better and better the more experiences you have, and like

611
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: the older you get, and I'm here, are really fide

612
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: to that.

613
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that, but like it really is

614
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: kind of traumatic. And even in the oscars, I remember

615
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 2: like when Michelle Yo Want, everyone was like, oh my god,

616
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: you can win an oscar at that age, and it's like,

617
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: what are we talking about? But it really is, I

618
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: think specifically in the industry, like the leading lady is

619
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 2: meant to like die out at you know, thirty six

620
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: or thirty eight years old. You know, it's then you

621
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 2: move into the mother role. You're no longer like the

622
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: love interest, and I just I find that really confusing

623
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: and scary, and it just feels like there's this like

624
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: finite time limit on but it's just not true.

625
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: Look at Nicole Kidman, you know what I mean. Look

626
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: at Francis McDorman, Look at all those types of women

627
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: that are just like constantly picking projects that they want

628
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: to do. Look at Patricia Arquette, you know, like they're

629
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: all perfect examples of the fact that you are people

630
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: are still working at that age and that we've been

631
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: fed this idea and this bullshit, and it's kind of

632
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: like counter to everything that's going on politically, Like not

633
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: even though Hollywood still has a long way to go

634
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: with sexism and racism, we are it is counter to

635
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: what is happening in the world. So like that's just

636
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: not true. People are working in their fifties and sixties

637
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: like ever before. Look at Meryl Streep, look at you know.

638
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: But I find myself like unlearning this pretense that I

639
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: feel that I have. Maybe I've you know, self implied

640
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: this kind of stress and pressure and all that, but

641
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: it does feel real in some capacity. But then of

642
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: course you see the people and even like what Reese

643
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: has done with Hell Sunshine and creating her own opportunities,

644
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: and I just I actually think we're in a really

645
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: interesting moment where actresses, you know, Marcot, Robbie and all

646
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: the women who have production companies and they're going out

647
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: there and finding their own ap and doing what she

648
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: did with Barbie and you know other heights, yeah, and

649
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: all of it. And I just think it's really exciting

650
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: that now we can like go and kind of create

651
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Speaker 2: our own producorial role.

652
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Speaker 1: In the movie something very bad is going to happen.

653
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: They it's all about you, like playing on your paranoia

654
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Speaker 1: and like superstitious and or superstitions. Is that you relate

655
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: to any of that in your real life?

656
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: Are you enough? You didn't have anywhere to put my purse,

657
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: so I like held onto it. I paine just now

658
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 2: I have like I'm a huge tope back as my

659
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: mom was like, Nargentina, if you put me on your

660
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: person before, you instantly lose money.

661
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: That's what everyone says to me. By the way, that's

662
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: not true. I put my purse on the ground all

663
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Speaker 1: the time.

664
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Speaker 2: I mean.

665
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: Maybe where we're in the money pain. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

666
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: I was putting on the table was powder room, like

667
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: holding onto the ball.

668
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't lose money. Oh my god,

669
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: why didn't you put on this sing because it's a

670
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: very tiny slot. Okay, yeah, we gotta find the table there,

671
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, contractor yeah yeah, yeah, you know, we

672
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: don't want to talk to the contractor anymore.

673
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: It's over that relationship. Relationships are the most volatile relationships

674
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: of all the time. It's you know, anyone who has

675
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 2: a successful relationship more more contractor breakups and friend breakups

676
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: and relationship breaks.

677
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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I don't know. It's almost like if you

678
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: become a contractor or something else didn't work out, like

679
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Speaker 1: because I don't know why they are so crooked and

680
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: why they are so careless. I had a good experience

681
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: with my last contractor, but the first one a nightmare.

682
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: But I knows a contractor. We betted them. I love him,

683
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 2: I've met him. He does great work, right.

684
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there should already be something like that. It's

685
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: called a referral, you know, when somebody like you.

686
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: Know anybody when it comes to contract else nobody.

687
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: I had a great experience with my Spanish contractors. They

688
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: were amazing. Yeah, they were like on time early, gave

689
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: me money back at the end of the thing.

690
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: Hurt.

691
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, sounds like we're supposed to get with taxes, right.

692
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: So are you superstitious about anything else?

693
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

694
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: Everything Like salt can't hand hand if it touched me

695
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: hand to hand, like it's the whole thing is going

696
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: over the left shoulder. No umbrella and doors, of course,

697
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: forget a staircase, splitting a pole.

698
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: You won't walk under a staircase, or you won't walk

699
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: up a staircase either airrifted.

700
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't do staircases. No, I won't walk up under

701
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 2: a stair in a ladder. I mean, what else is there?

702
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: There's so many I mean, cheers and looking in the eyes,

703
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: all the things. I mean anything black cat forget that.

704
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had a black cat cross me and

705
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: I had to get out and do like this, like

706
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: ritual we cross a car thirteen times.

707
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. Somebody told me for my house

708
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: to cleanse it, you know, to clean the energy, to

709
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: get a bunch of monks here to pray to change

710
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: the frequency and the vibration of the house. And I

711
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: was like, experience with this. I don't really want to

712
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: deal with a bunch of monks right now. I mean,

713
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: but maybe they can come while I'm gone, because I'm

714
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: never here anyway. Okay, we're going to get into the

715
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: advice portion of the show where we give advice. Okay,

716
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: so do you might get.

717
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: The hypothermia, but I'm ready to give advice. And you're

718
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: a dreams the one that's behind.

719
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Speaker 1: You, of course, thank you. Give me an example if

720
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: you can think of one of either the best advice

721
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: or the worst advice you've ever gotten from someone.

722
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: I mean, like the idea of everything happens for a reason,

723
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: when something like absolutely terrible is happening in your life,

724
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: Like everything happens for a reason. It's like such horrible

725
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: things have happened in humanity and history. I don't know

726
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: if everything happens for a reason, but I believe that

727
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: there's a lesson to be learned from everything you do,

728
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: and I'm down to embrace that. I don't know if

729
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: that goes under the worst advice, but.

730
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: That's just kind of like a platitude, do you know

731
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: what I mean? Everything happens and carry It's like it's

732
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: like when people say My least favorite saying is when

733
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: people say it is what it is? What does that

734
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: mean that it actually mean anything to what it is?

735
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty bad. I put that up there.

736
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: Do you want to cover your other arm? But that

737
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: doesn't like, I mean, do you know how to use

738
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: a blanket? It doesn't seem like that.

739
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: I'm trying to.

740
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: Also, it's okay, as long as your eyebrows are out,

741
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: we're fine.

742
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: Give me my eyebrows is good, okay.

743
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: One side note to tell you. What I forget is

744
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: my brain short shirtening?

745
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: Wait, swips, is there a cat here?

746
00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: You love to work out in my grandma's bedroom. I'm

747
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: just gonna leave that there.

748
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: Ben Bruno's home is your grandmother's bed.

749
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: Home gym is my grandmother's bedroom. My mom sold our

750
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: house to Ben Bruno, your trainer, what who I still

751
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: haven't met? And my grandma would come from Argentina because

752
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: she's Argentine, Yeah, Argine, and she's Argentine now, and we

753
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: would like throw her in this garage room off the

754
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: laundry that like didn't have insulation or like heating or

755
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: air conditioning, and she would be so happy to be

756
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: visiting us. And Ben Bruno bought the house and turned

757
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: that into a gym.

758
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: Which is called the kitchen. He calls it the kitchen.

759
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: It was not the kitchen. It's the garage with no insulation.

760
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: So that I was like, the only place side that

761
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: she could be talking about is Ben Bruno's garage. But connection, Okay,

762
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Speaker 1: are we taking a break and coming back? Okay, we're

763
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Speaker 1: taking a break or taking brow We're taking a break

764
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: with Camilla Morone. Camilla moroone? Am I saying it right, yeah,

765
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Speaker 1: Camilla Moroon, I think.

766
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Speaker 2: So we're taking a break with.

767
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Speaker 1: Camilla Moron and we're going to be right back, and

768
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: we're back with Camela Morrea.

769
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: Wow that was.

770
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: Fast, so fast.

771
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: Well okay, I thought we were getting up.

772
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: Touching up that I just had to go upstairs and yeah, okay,

773
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 3: Well we have a big red flag here. So this

774
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: is our one drink question. Reckon says, my parents are

775
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: divorced and my dad talks shit about my mom on

776
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: social media.

777
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: Oh that's great.

778
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: My mom doesn't retaliate, but I know she's aware of it.

779
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: I've asked him to stop and he won't. But my

780
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: wedding is coming up and I don't want any drama.

781
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: Should I disinvite him from my wedding if he won't stop.

782
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Reckon, Yes, yes, yes, yes.

783
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: Oh see. I was like, no, that's.

784
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: Why you're here. We're having to have differing opinions. Let

785
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: me just go first, and then I want to hear

786
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: what you say. I first of all, that is totally

787
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: unacceptable to trash talk somebody's the father or daughter, father

788
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: or mother of your child on public or behind the scenes,

789
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: in my opinion, like that's you're the parent act like it,

790
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: and that is a perfect reason to disinvite him from

791
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: the wedding. Why would you put your mother in that situation?

792
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure your mother's going to be cool

793
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: because she's not going to be responsive to that. But

794
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: you have to have a really long conversation with your

795
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: father about boundaries and about what's acceptable. Okay, now you go.

796
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: I'm deeply triggered. This is basically my entire childhood said

797
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: they got along great. Well, this is they're Argentinian. I

798
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: mean they like get along for like one Christmas they're

799
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: like best friends and the next my mom, my mom

800
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: and daughter, like I won't be there for the other

801
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: parents there. That's the vibe. And it's also always very

802
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: dependent on who their partner is at the time. Sure,

803
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: so like if the partner's like, I don't want that involved.

804
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: So it's it's a very you know, it's an up

805
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: and down. It's been. It's been. It's been like a

806
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: part time job mediating between them for the last you know,

807
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: twenty years.

808
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: But I okay, well, I have very different than what

809
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: you said at the beginning of the episode, where you

810
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: said my parents got along so well, so I couldn't

811
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: even play them against each other.

812
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: Now you're each other about important things like if like you, Yes,

813
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: they're in cahoots, so like they'll do a check in

814
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: once You're like, how do you feel? Like you know,

815
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: if I'm going through a hard time? Like they always

816
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: talk to each other on the phone. Yeah, they do,

817
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: but they don't want to hang necessarily anymore. But there

818
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: has been times that they hung. It's very up and down.

819
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: I want to know more about the dad posting on Instagram?

820
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: Is it comments or is he doing like a grid post?

821
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: Being like today.

822
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: He's on Instagram?

823
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: Is he on a grid post? Being like hey fuck

824
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: you X? WHATY Like, I'm just curious, yeah, like is

825
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: it a grid post or is he storing it? And

826
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: does he like attach a photo of the mom? So

827
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: obviously he's like not over it and still love because

828
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: like he's really adamant. I have so many questions about it,

829
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 2: like just the technicality of the ship talking on him.

830
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: But what you were instinctially you were gonna say that

831
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: what that that he should come to have.

832
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: A conversation with the dad first. You really don't want

833
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: like your you want your mom and dad there if

834
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: they can be so I would just sit down my

835
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: dad and be like, I would love to have you there,

836
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: but if you're gonna be problematic, I'm very happy to

837
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: uninvite you. So like, if you can control yourself, you're

838
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: super wanted. If you can't, then you're not coming. And

839
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: that's my mom.

840
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's really such a great way.

841
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: And then there's maybe there's like a really my probability

842
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: that he'll like blackout and like shit, talk to mom

843
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: at the wedding. You have to be prepared, right.

844
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: Well, then you have to put like drinking limitations on

845
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: the situation, which is never fun for anybody.

846
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

847
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't go anywhere where they told

848
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: me to limit my drinking. But I'm also not problem

849
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: like that, not anymore anyway, not in this part of

850
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: my life.

851
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: They like pull reference clips of like all the time.

852
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna Chelsea ever sailation.

853
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna call Jane Fund. She's gonna tell us the

854
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: who story.

855
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exact thing.

856
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: All right, breckon, Well you've got the language to use.

857
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: Now, did you come on this podcast hoping to give advice?

858
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: Is that why?

859
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: I mean? Did you love the main reasons? Oh my God,

860
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm so good at give the advice and I'm so

861
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: bad at taking it.

862
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: I love it me too, exactly the same, exactly, Look

863
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: we look amazing.

864
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: Okay. So our first caller today is Caitlyn. She is

865
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Speaker 3: thirty two and her subject line is chat GPT broke

866
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: up with me by proxy. So Caitlyn says, Dear Chelsea,

867
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if this qualifies as a dating question

868
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 3: or how do I stop my life from falling apart

869
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: all at once? Question? But here goes. A year and

870
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: a half ago, I met a wonderful man while on

871
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: an extended work trip to Texas. We did long distance.

872
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: It went well, and last year we decided we were

873
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: ready to move in together soon. He's fully remote and

874
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: I was tethered to New York, so the plan was

875
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: to make New York home. He's from here originally too.

876
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: Then everything happened at once. Before he had a chance

877
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: to move in, I found out my job probably ends

878
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: this year. Moving to Texas, started to make financial sense,

879
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 3: lower cost of living, finally start a personal life after

880
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: years of being tied to work, etc. Then in January

881
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: I was diagnosed with endometriosis and surgery was scheduled a

882
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: few weeks later. Suddenly I needed one thing in my

883
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: life to stay still. I couldn't face moving across the country,

884
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: away from my entire support network right after surgery in

885
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: a red state where I'd also want to freeze my

886
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: eggs while unemployed and potentially financially dependent on a man

887
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 3: for the first time in my life. So last month

888
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: I called to ask him if he'd consider moving into

889
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: my place temporarily, just to buy us some time. The

890
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: conversation ended with us breaking up. He told me the

891
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: romantic in him wanted to relocate, but reason told him

892
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: it wouldn't work. He'd apparently been consulting chat GPT about

893
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: our real relationship, which told him two people can love

894
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 3: each other, but sometimes timing and location just don't line up.

895
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: I have a long history with abandonment and relationships ending

896
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: because people didn't show up when I needed them most.

897
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: He offered to come help me through my surgery because

898
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: he felt bad about the timing, which I declined. Obviously,

899
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: it made me sad to say it out loud. I

900
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: guess my question is was I asking for too much?

901
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: Or am I someone who keeps finding herself alone in

902
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: hard moments and calling it independence and Caitlin, I know

903
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: you have an update about relationship status.

904
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 4: Here.

905
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: Hi Caitlin, Hi, Hi, this is Camilla Moron. She's our

906
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: special guest today. We're happy that you called in and yes,

907
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: what's your update.

908
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: We are back together. We had a call shortly after,

909
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: so we were able to kind of reconvene together and

910
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: figure it all out. I also had a therapy session

911
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 4: and was able to chat with a therapist about like

912
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: rationally just like my past and walking through all of

913
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: that and how previously in relationships I've always kind of

914
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: hunkered down and said I can take care of myself

915
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: on my own. So that was kind of the rationale

916
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 4: behind us getting back together. Was like I truly knew

917
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 4: I wanted to be with him and give it a chance.

918
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 4: I think I could possibly overlook the chat GPT thing.

919
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's How did you guys come

920
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: about getting back on the phone? Like, who initiated that

921
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: phone call? After chat GPT prompted told him to break

922
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: up with you? I called him, okay, And what was

923
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: that call? Like, what were your intentions with a call

924
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: to get back together?

925
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: It was it was to be clear that you know,

926
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: we needed to work things out, and we kind of

927
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 4: just needed to talk through a couple of things, like

928
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: just understanding that I had a lot going on and

929
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: that I think we needed to make one decision at

930
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 4: a time realistically, And.

931
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: So he was open to getting back together.

932
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: Yes, he was communicative in that, Like he had said,

933
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: his plan was that he would reach out again after

934
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: I had my surgery and he would connect with me

935
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: to try to make things right and figure out a

936
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: pass forward for the both of us. So he was

937
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 4: very receptive to getting back together. I think it was

938
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: his plan all along, like after we kind of had

939
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 4: that initial breakup conversation. But I think for me, like

940
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: after talking to my therapist, I had said that I

941
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: knew I truly wanted to be with him. I just

942
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 4: was in this rush of decision making between having with

943
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: surgery and feeling overwhelmed from that, feeling overwhelmed from a

944
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: ton of work being dumped on me because two of

945
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 4: my teammates left, and you know, I didn't know if

946
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: my job was going to be intact by the end

947
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 4: of the year. I just couldn't possibly make a move

948
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: decision right then and there, and I just felt like

949
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: hunkering down and breaking up was like the easiest thing.

950
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: And when he said chat gpt agreed, I was kind

951
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: of like, well, I guess then we have no other.

952
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: Choice, right. Well, first of all, I hate that fucking

953
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: people to use chat gpt for therapy. I hate that

954
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: the people use chatgypt period. Tell them to go to

955
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: Anthropic because chatchypt is like surveilling all of us.

956
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: Or a therapist.

957
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, or a therapist. I feel like that exactly what

958
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: am I talking about. Go to a different AI platform.

959
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: But I think the overarching lesson here for our listeners

960
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: and for you is when you are in a state

961
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: of overwhelm, there are no decisions to be made like that.

962
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be making any serious decisions when you're feeling overwhelmed.

963
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: You have to know that you're in a sense of

964
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: kind of almost desensitization. Like when I'm so busy and

965
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: so like, or I have a million things going on,

966
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: it's like I can't give my full attention to certain

967
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: aspects of my life. And I'm just very honest about that.

968
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, I can't. I don't have the bandwidth

969
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: right now for this. I'll be back, I'll circle back

970
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: on this in about a week, you know, Like, and

971
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: I think it's important to recognize that as women who

972
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: feel like we can multitask everything and we can do

973
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: a million things at one time, which we're good at,

974
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: we still have our limits too, Like, and it is

975
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: important to recognize when you're in those moments, you're going

976
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: through a ton of stuff and going through medical like

977
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: personal stuff, that's no time to make a decision about

978
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: your relationship.

979
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, I have endo and I've

980
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: been avoiding the surgery for since I was fifteen, So, like,

981
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: you're really brave for going through it. And it's very

982
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: isolating and very lonely to have endometriosis. And that's a

983
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: really particular thing to be going through during a breakup.

984
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: But it's already really scary and makes you feel really

985
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: isolated because no one really understands it unless.

986
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 3: You have it, including doctors.

987
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and especially men that don't.

988
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. So how are you doing now after

989
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: the surgery?

990
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: My surgery actually hasn't happened. It's actually next week. It's

991
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: next to okay. He plans to fly out. He's actually

992
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: been really supportive, been sending articles so it's interesting you

993
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 4: say that it's challenging for men to understand. I think

994
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: while he's in the same state of mind that he'll

995
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: never understand truly, he's been doing research, like reading through

996
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: Reddit forums and then also just kind of doing his

997
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 4: own knowledge checking. That's really trying to figure out how

998
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: to support me throughout the surgery.

999
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: See, that's a positive use of the technology.

1000
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 2: I like, that's what we're using. Yes, how do we understand?

1001
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1002
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: Well, great, it sounds like everything's going great. Then I'm

1003
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: glad that you have this update and that you've filled

1004
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: us in on that. And yeah, we need to be

1005
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: talking about these issues with men as often as possible

1006
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: because they lack understanding, because they lack education about it.

1007
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: You know, endometriosis. I have two other girlfriends who are like,

1008
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: there's like they they went to mail doctors who were like,

1009
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: knew nothing about endometriosis, which is ridiculous, and like, because

1010
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: it's a woman's disease, there are a woman's I don't

1011
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: even know is it a disease?

1012
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even funny enough, it's very hard. You can't

1013
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: get diagnosed unless you really open up laparoscopically. And do surgery.

1014
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: So like you can get like a vaginal exam, but

1015
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: it's like actually not guaranteed. How you do this.

1016
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: When you talk about a vaginal exam, same experience.

1017
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 4: Yes, that's how they figured out it was and no

1018
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: for me was like doing this and then they didn't

1019
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: be actual scan and saw that I had a six

1020
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 4: centimeter cyst and it's probably a deep infiltrating phase because

1021
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: they said it was late stage. So I hope you

1022
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 4: do also go get and no taken care of. It's

1023
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: not something we should be dealing with. And I hope

1024
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: you're able to find a solution for yourself that work.

1025
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: Thank you. Good luck with your surgery.

1026
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, have a have a good surgery and have a

1027
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: good recovery. And I'm glad things are back on track.

1028
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: By by your man.

1029
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and tell them to stop going on. Yeah that's

1030
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: a direct quote from me. Reddit is okay, we've decided, Yeah,

1031
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: read it, go on Reddit.

1032
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate it.

1033
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: Okay, then good luck, Okay, thank you. That's so funny

1034
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: because I didn't know that you had I also have endometriosis.

1035
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: And it just like sometimes these questions like they just

1036
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 3: kind of they find the right person. It's so funny

1037
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: how that happens.

1038
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: I know that happens. She never talked about it, but

1039
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: it's been such a big part of my life since

1040
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: I was fifteen.

1041
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: And you're scared to get the surgery.

1042
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: I have heard that it is incredibly painful, but mainly

1043
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm more it grows back because it is scar tissue,

1044
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: and it's tissue. So you know, there's a lot of

1045
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: a lot of people that I've consulted with it that

1046
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: have the surgery in two three years later they have

1047
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: to get it again. There's like an old witch tail

1048
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: that if you have children, the pain can reduce significantly.

1049
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: I've taken birth control since I was fifteen to kind

1050
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: of minimize the pain and the bleeding. But it's the

1051
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: worst and it's also so emotional. Remember the day that

1052
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: I got diagnosed and it was like I said that

1053
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: vaginal exam and I started crying because she was like,

1054
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: you do, in fact have endony.

1055
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: I was too, so much too. My surgeon was like,

1056
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 3: so you do have endometrios as your life After seven

1057
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: years of asking doctors, including female, once do I have this,

1058
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, he goes you have

1059
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: endomet I was like, thank you.

1060
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: I remember looking at my mom my boyfriend and being like,

1061
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: I told you I'm not crazy, Like the pain's not normal.

1062
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: And I actually went to the hospital my first period

1063
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: when I was fifteen because they thought I was having

1064
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: like either pancreatitis.

1065
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 3: Cherish or like call letter or something all butter or something.

1066
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: And I like, you you look at me as a doctor.

1067
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: Yes it is, but so and.

1068
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: Actually on average takes up to ten years to diagnose.

1069
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: So I will say for our listeners, there is a

1070
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 3: listener who called him before who was dealing with endometriosis.

1071
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: And she's got a very helpful Instagram account now called

1072
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: Kim versus endo. Check her out.

1073
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: That's what Patricia kat sends me the like, oh yeah,

1074
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: the end. She's like, if you have green herbal tea

1075
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: at three pm, your endo And I'm like, I think

1076
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: I need laproscopic surgery with multiple scars. But yes, I

1077
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: will look into that sweet pea.

1078
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds terrible. Also, yeah, so I'm sorry, ladies, it.

1079
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: Has to be a woman. Well, let's get to this

1080
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 3: other question, which I think is also pulled maybe straight

1081
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 3: from your life. So our last color state as Lee

1082
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: and she says, to your Chelsea, I'm a thirty six

1083
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: year old mother of two healthy daughters. I'm married, I

1084
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: have a great community. I had a happy, middle class

1085
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: childhood in the Midwest, and I still call my mom

1086
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: every week. All of this is to say I have

1087
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: a very full and fulfilling life. My question today is

1088
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: whether I should open Pandora's box or leave well Enough alone.

1089
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: Growing up, I was the only child my parents shared together,

1090
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: but I knew I had three half sisters and two

1091
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: half brothers from my parents' previous marriages. I was raised

1092
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: with two half sisters, my mom's children, but we were

1093
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: estranged from my dad's three children because of beliefs and

1094
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: restrictions within their religion or religion my dad left when

1095
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: he divorced their mother. The other siblings would come up

1096
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: from time to time. My dad might share an occasional

1097
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: story or something about my appearance or personality that would

1098
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: spark a memory of them, but these were never relationships

1099
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: I actively longed for or mourned because they were relationships

1100
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: I never really had. I grew up with only a

1101
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: few memories of them. Now, with daughters of my own

1102
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: and parents who are getting older, I find myself thinking

1103
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: more about family, the bond between siblings, and the connections

1104
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 3: that shape us. I wonder if I should reach out

1105
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: to these siblings just to see what might be. At

1106
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: the same time, I hesitate. I worry about opening the

1107
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: floodgates to decades of emotions this might stir up for

1108
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: them and my father. So I'm left wondering do I

1109
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: reach out and potentially open Pandora's box to satisfy my curiosity,

1110
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 3: orly well enough alone and focus on the wonderful family

1111
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: I already have. Sincerely, Lee, I'm perfect person.

1112
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: Two half siblings. My dad had two more kids when

1113
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: I was eighteen years old. I was an only child,

1114
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: so I was eighteen. You're like, Lily, my dad met

1115
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: a woman on match dot com and I have a

1116
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: ten and eleven year old brother and sister for the

1117
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: first time in my life.

1118
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: And do you feel like their mother or their aunt

1119
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: or a sister?

1120
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: But I think what I have lots to say? Okay, Hi, Lee, Hi, how.

1121
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: Are you Okay? Well, you're in the perfect company.

1122
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 2: Okay. I came to the best place because I mel

1123
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: on my own.

1124
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: As our special guest, and she has experienced in this Oh,

1125
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: this is great.

1126
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was an only child, so I was eighteen,

1127
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: and I was always very sad about it and wish

1128
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: that I had siblings. And I would make up scenarios

1129
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: where I was fighting over pancakes with my fake siblings

1130
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: and my mom would have to separate us. It was

1131
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: like very sad only child syndrome, and I would like

1132
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: pretend I would be jealous of people who got in

1133
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: fights at their siblings. Long story short, my dad had

1134
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: two more kids when I was eighteen, so they're my

1135
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: half siblings and it has been the biggest gift of

1136
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: my life. Obviously you already know you're in contact with

1137
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: your half siblings, but I would just say I always think,

1138
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: and it's kind of sad about like when we are

1139
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: going to lose a parent, which is inevitable and going

1140
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: to happen to us, Like, I'm so grateful now that

1141
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: I have these other people to have memories about my

1142
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: dad with and to share stories and to joke about,

1143
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: you know, long after knock on Woody's past, and I

1144
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: just think it's it's why you know, yes, it's Pandora's box,

1145
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: But I think you're it looks like you're stable enough

1146
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: and emotionally mature enough to handle whatever can come your way,

1147
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: whatever that might open, And what beautiful things may you

1148
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 2: learn about your parent through these others.

1149
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: And that's a beautiful way to look at it, really beautiful.

1150
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: I get some great stories and good laughs, and.

1151
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, why not, Yeah, I would love to have a

1152
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 5: relationship with them, or at least explore the possibility of that.

1153
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 5: I'm I'm just more concerned. Obviously. I know I'm the

1154
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 5: one with the least amount of pain in the situation.

1155
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 5: I didn't lose siblings, I didn't lose a father. I

1156
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 5: just want to be sensitive too. I know that they

1157
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 5: might have a lot of emotions wrapped up around this

1158
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 5: that I don't necessarily have, and I don't want to

1159
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 5: be selfish by, you know, trying to satisfy my own

1160
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 5: just genuine curiosity if it might open a wound for them.

1161
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: Do you know if they have interest in communicating with you.

1162
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 5: I mean, it's been thirty six years and they have

1163
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 5: not reached out yet. I know the oldest sibling had

1164
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 5: said when I was born that she did not want

1165
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 5: to have a relationship with me. Obviously, it's been a

1166
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 5: long time, so I don't know if you know they

1167
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 5: might be open to it.

1168
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: Now, but I think you can cover all of this

1169
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: in an email, like in a letter to them, and

1170
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: be very sensitive with it, with exactly what you just

1171
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: said to be, Like, listen, I know this is sensitive.

1172
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: I want to be sensitive to your emotions and your feelings.

1173
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: I know you had some misgivings about me when I

1174
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: was born. I don't even think you to say that

1175
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: because it was thirty six years ago.

1176
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, people hated my little sister to day she

1177
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: was born. She's zero.

1178
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: Everyone does you know? My sister hated me for a

1179
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: long fucking time too. But you know your situation is

1180
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: obviously a little bit different. I think you just go

1181
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: at it with sensitivity and love and just say, listen,

1182
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm really curious. You know, we share a lot of stuff,

1183
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: and I think we can make something positive out of this.

1184
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: But I also want to be sensitive to your feelings

1185
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: and your emotions and your experiences. I know it's not

1186
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: like mine, And if there's any avenue for us to

1187
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: kind of get to know each other and spend some

1188
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: time together, I would really love to do that, you know,

1189
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: and just go at it with like full heart and

1190
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: like open arms and see what happens. You know, you

1191
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: have nothing to lose.

1192
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking, Like, I

1193
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 5: guess there's no downside. I mean, there's there's nothing to lose.

1194
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: There's only something to gain, So you know, I hope

1195
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 5: they would be open to it as well, but I

1196
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 5: guess I wouldn't know unless I try, right and make.

1197
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: Can respectfully decline. I didn't realize how different it was

1198
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: from my situation, but yeah, I mean, if you're not

1199
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: pressuring anyone through an email, through a claud email, right, yeah,

1200
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: and you can just say if you're open to it,

1201
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: and if you're not. I also totally understand that, and

1202
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear back from you either way.

1203
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: And you might find that some of them are interested

1204
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: and maybe one is not, or you know that sort

1205
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: of thing, and that's okay too. You know, if there's

1206
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 3: someone who wants to connect, it might have an effect

1207
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: on the other ones in the future as well.

1208
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: But it sounds like you're having a pin and you're interested,

1209
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: So I'd be curious to see, like what your intuition

1210
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: and why this is coming up. It'd be fun.

1211
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel the same way it's been after having kids.

1212
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 5: This past year, I've just really been wondering, you know,

1213
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 5: what are they like? What are their kids like? Are

1214
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 5: kids similar to all these curiosity questions coming out that

1215
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 5: you know, I would just love to explore and see

1216
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 5: if they be open to it.

1217
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you give them the option, you know,

1218
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: say that too, say that you've had children, like, I'm

1219
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: interested in meeting you alone. If you were open to

1220
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: meeting my children, that's an option. I'm what like, just

1221
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: make them feel like, you know, it's their leisures and

1222
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: they're there. Yeah, the balls in their court, like you're

1223
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: open to whatever looks good to them.

1224
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1225
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: I love that anyway, So let us know what happens.

1226
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I will thank you so much.

1227
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 5: I really appreciate it. It was the encouragement I needed.

1228
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, I mean you're lovely, so anyone would be

1229
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: lucky to have you as a sister.

1230
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 3: Go fort Lee.

1231
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1232
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: Okay, you got this, good luck, take care, Thank you guy.

1233
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: I really love this is fun.

1234
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: It's been nice to give advice and talk to people,

1235
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: took to real people that you don't know.

1236
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: I love that. I didn't realize like how different Street

1237
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: which she was different. It's thinking if she's been if

1238
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: it's been like really weighing on her in the past year.

1239
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: It's interesting always when things come up to you know,

1240
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: it's like when you're thinking about someone, you reach out

1241
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: and they're like, I was, I haven't spoked two years,

1242
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 2: but you've been on my mind, so hopefully Lee will

1243
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: be reconnected. Yeah.

1244
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: That's so crazy that you got two little kids like

1245
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: in your life when you were eighteen years old and

1246
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: so weird, so.

1247
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: Weird, and when my dad told me it was first

1248
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: a boy, and then the second one came like a

1249
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: year later and it was a girl, and I was

1250
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: so unwell when he told me he was having a girl.

1251
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: I was like, but that means I'm not your only

1252
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: little girl. ND love her like you love me, and

1253
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: it was it was not good. But now she's my

1254
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: best friend.

1255
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: And does your I know. It's so funny that kids

1256
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: are so jealous of like, well you can be like

1257
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: thinking that it's going to take your love away, because

1258
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: my mom explained this to me once because I was like,

1259
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: how can you love all of us? You know, and

1260
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: she goes because your love expands, like with each child,

1261
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: your love, your heart grows bigger and bigger and bigger

1262
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: and bigger, and you just bring them all in. And

1263
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: I was like, but you have to love one of

1264
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: us more, and she would just tell us I love

1265
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: you the most, I love you the most. And then

1266
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: I would tell my sister Mom told me. She's like,

1267
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: she tells me that every day.

1268
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: The best thing about being an older sister is I'm like,

1269
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: do you know that Dad told me right before you came,

1270
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: no matter what, he's never going to love you. Like,

1271
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: and my sister's like, she's like, I have taken making

1272
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: it my life mission to like torture them about how

1273
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: much he loves me. And for eighteen years it was

1274
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: all about me.

1275
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: Well, he loved you for eighteen years before they even existed,

1276
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1277
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but exactly, even having siblings, I do you feel

1278
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: like there are favorites in the moment, Like I love

1279
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: them both to death, but I'm like, oh, I'm really

1280
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 2: vibing with you right now. Actually I'm having a moment

1281
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: with you right now, Like it is interesting. I think

1282
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: you have like, oh, you're really core and you're in

1283
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: a cool age. Yes, yeah, you feel more connected to

1284
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: one than the other on a certain day.

1285
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also like, men always say this to me

1286
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: when I ask them who their favorite kid is. Like

1287
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: I asked men this a lot, doctors and stuff like

1288
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: whenever I'm in a doctor's office, and yeah, doctor is

1289
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: the ones finger blasting you. And I've gotten this answer

1290
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: now three times for men, whoever needs me the most.

1291
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: That's interesting, I know.

1292
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: And I was like, men need to be eat it

1293
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: right right, But women are very very much they They

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Speaker 1: don't like to say that there's a favorite. Men will say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a favorite.

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Speaker 2: With whoever's funnier that day and whoever's like down to

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Speaker 2: hang out with me, And I like.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly right now. Okay, Cameela, You're awesome. I loved

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Speaker 1: having you on and then popping your podcast Cherry. That

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Speaker 1: was really fun.

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Speaker 2: I'm no longer a virgin and you're not.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna walk out this door with a little swag

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Speaker 1: or did not before. Very glad, So congratulations everyone. You

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Speaker 1: can watch her in all these things, The Night Manager

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Speaker 1: season two, she's in Daisy Jones and the Sixth if

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen that already, Something Very Bad Is Going

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Speaker 1: to Happen is now out on Netflix, and the Age

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Speaker 1: of Innocence will be coming out on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Love It baks Yay, it was so fun.

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Speaker 1: I am officially on my High and Mighty tour. April

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Speaker 1: tenth is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater in

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Speaker 1: April eleventh. Indianapolis, Indiana. April twelfth Louisville, Kentucky. April sixteenth

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Speaker 1: is Albuquerque, New Mexico. April seventeenth is Mesa, Arizona. April

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Speaker 1: twenty third is Kansas City, Missouri. April twenty fourth is

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Missouri. April twenty fifth is Minneapolis, Minnesota. April

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Speaker 1: thirtieth Nashville, Tennessee. May first is Charlotte, North Carolina. May

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Speaker 1: second is Durham, North Carolina. May six I'm doing Netflix

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Speaker 1: as a Joke Festival. I will be in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: May fifteen, Saratoga, California. May sixteenth, Monterey, California. May seventeenth Modesto, California,

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Speaker 1: and then June fourth Portchester, New York. June fifth is Boston,

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Speaker 1: mass And June twelfth is Portland, Oregon. And then Seattle

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Speaker 1: is June thirteenth. I'm doing a second show at the

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Speaker 1: Paramount Theater in Denver on Saturday, December fifth, So suck

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Speaker 1: on that everybody. Go to Chelseahandler dot com for tickets.

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Speaker 3: If you want advice from Chelsea, write into Dear Chelsea

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Speaker 3: podcast at gmail dot com. Dear Chelsea is a production

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Speaker 3: of iHeartMedia. Follow Chelsea on all socials at Chelsea Handler

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Speaker 3: and find Catherine on TikTok at flash Cadabra. Dear Chelsea

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Speaker 3: is edited and engineered by Brandon Dickert executive producer Catherine Law.

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Speaker 3: Find full video episodes and minisodes now on Netflix, and

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Speaker 3: get tickets to see Chelsea live at Chelseahandler dot com