WEBVTT - The Best Of The Dan Patrick Show 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:03.840 You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.720 It is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:12.880 LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn in for Dan and 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.880 the guys. You can hear us weekday mornings before The 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:20.160 Dan Patrick Show Monday through Friday, six am Eastern time, 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.439 three o'clock Pacific. And we are off and running here 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.880 on this Thursday morning. How are we feeling here? 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.520 Boys? Hi, everybody, good. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.400 Good morning for we're all rocking and rolling here. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.280 So we've got a little bit of a technical difficulties 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:42.199 going on, having some issues. 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By the way, 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:03.800 what happened last night? 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:08.880 Oh oh, I'm sure, bro, you texted a little bit 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:14.880 text well about you discovered a charge card that you 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:16.400 said you've never seen before. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:21.840 Oh yeah, I saw. I saw an American Express come out. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.760 Where was I at? Oh no, yeah, where was that? 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.000 I don't even me. I was at the ivy. Here 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.120 you go, thanks Patty. I was at the ivy and 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.520 I was having lunch with with Penn, with my my 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:34.280 youngest daughter. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.880 We were having daddy daughter date. And you know, you know, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:39.680 I don't. I'm not. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.600 I'm not impressed by very much. It's not It's just 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.040 I just live life. It is what it is, and 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.679 it's not very often something pops up I'd be like, oh, 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:50.400 s look at that. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.079 But you did last night. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.480 Man, it was during the day last night too, last 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.919 night too. I mean she saw my wife last night. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:02.200 Holy moldy way you see the watch when I get that. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.119 Yeah, Broy just got to watch on right now, that's 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.640 got to be four million dollars. 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.600 But this, this, this guy that was serving the table 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.360 was paying the bill like he he put the bill 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.239 like the card in the pet and it just hit 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.840 my eye like it like blinded me for a second, 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.639 like like the sun rays hit it. It bounced off 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.840 of the card. It hit me in the face and 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.160 blinded me. And I could I could sue American Express 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:31.040 for this card. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:32.679 I don't. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.640 I've never seen a card this color. I'm not I've 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.240 seen black, I've seen red. I've seen a few American 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.640 Express cards and you touch them, it's like, oh that's 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:47.240 a card. But this one was different. I said, that's 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:51.280 gotta be like oil money or something something. There's something 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.000 different about this card that I've never seen. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:54.400 But it was. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:59.120 It was almost like titanium platinum mixed with white gold, 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:04.960 mixed with something silver, mixed with every precious metal that 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:05.640 that existed. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.120 When they drop it on the table to make a 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.000 big clattering sound like. It sounded very solid. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.160 I don't think Day was dropping that card. That card 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.600 almost looked like you could put it like on your necklace, 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.000 like a like you could wear it like a charm 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:21.120 after you're done. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:23.560 Dazzled. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:28.400 No, it was so looked like it. I can't explain 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.560 I just explained it the best way that I can. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.120 Dude, come on, you could compare it to I. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.800 Just explained it the best way that I could explain it. 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.320 You would have had to have seen it. I've never 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.159 seen the heavy. I've never seen one like. I didn't 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:46.040 touch it heavies, but they're all heavy. They're all heavies. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.120 And that wasn't even that was that was just the 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.560 warm up. So I became best friends with Sean Kimp 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.000 last night. That's my besting. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:58.440 Now we will be forever best friends. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.400 I don't think you understand, like, I didn't get many 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.120 jerseys when I was young. I had a Sean Camp jersey. Though, man, 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.520 I love Sean Camp. I have no idea why I 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.359 grew up a Cleveland sports fan. I maybe had like 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.440 a Mark Price jersey, maybe a Brad Dordy. That's it. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.760 Like then it was Seawan Camp. I have no idea why. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.800 I was the biggest fan of Sean Camp. Sonics teams 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:20.880 were so cool. 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.320 There was Gary Papon was in there last night. They 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.200 was up in there, Sam Cassell. I saw Sam talk 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:32.760 to Sam. Mike Players hold on so so, Mike Irvin 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:38.200 was in there. T O was in there. Man, there 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.000 there there were a ton I mean it was. It 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.760 was a who's who of people up in there. And 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.600 I tell you what, there was a whole lot of 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:55.440 chum too. Oh yeah, oh, oh my god. You want 0:05:55.480 --> 0:06:01.680 to talk about attracting the sharks out. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.200 Penn State fratnizing going on there? 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:11.039 Hell yeah, yeah. It was all kinds of who says 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.400 it doesn't I saw speaking of cocaine. I mean not 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:16.440 who said that. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.840 I mean, but you know, you think of usual suspects 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:23.200 and verbal Kemp and Kaiser. I met Sammy Sosa, like 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.680 I met Sammy Sosa last night. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.320 Man. Ralph Sampson was up in there. Uh there was. 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.760 There was just a gang like the Pump Brothers are 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.719 super dope and they they they represent such great causes. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.280 Many they represent the youth, take care of the youth. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.400 They do so many great things in the community. I 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.880 don't know how they get so many people to come out, man, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.880 I mean they Marcus Allen was up in there. Uh 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.039 talk to him. He's coming to the white out this year, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:53.560 so that should be fun. I told him, you're gonna 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:54.080 come with me? 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:54.600 Which one? 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.560 There's multiple now there, No, it's not. It's just more 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:03.360 celebrated now, Like can you imagine the thing of white out. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.040 That's a good way. It will be much more celebrated 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.160 this year. Is Yeah, that's well said. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.440 I mean imagine, by the way, imagine all the jokes 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:14.840 for Halloween. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.080 White out? How many how many people do you think. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:22.040 Are going to go dressed as Pablo from Narcos for 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.560 halloweenblo for what they call him fradilar Ledge gbar Ledge 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.680 gbar dang. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.320 I mean people we became famous overnight, Like Penn State 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:33.960 is now. 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.000 Like a Colt, a Colt hero or something. I don't know. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.800 I mean I always said, like everybody was joking, right, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.560 So the minute somebody make a joke about like, oh, 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.240 they're doing that cocaine at your school, I'd like, how 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.120 many times you done cocaine? They shut up. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.880 I was gonna say, you over being You're a little 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.120 sensitive about it yesterday. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.840 Now I think we could joke about it. No, I 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.320 wasn't sensitive about it. I went through the scandal. I 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:04.320 went through the scandal, bro, like cocaine. Sorry, no disrespect, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.880 But there's probably anybody out there that's judging them kids like, yeah, 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:09.960 judge them for selling it. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.320 But most of y'all, y'all don't used cocaine. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.880 Like, like, you're lying to yourself and other people if 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.680 you tell them you didn't partake in it. Now, at 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.920 the end of the day, I don't like the fact 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.040 that we keep getting in trouble. But I went through 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.080 the sex scale, Bro, I don't there's nothing that even 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.480 comes But I don't get I don't get sensitive about it. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.760 It doesn't you know, it doesn't equate to how bad 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:32.200 that that. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.840 I'll say this much. You guys could have had a 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.200 huge Nile sponsor. You know if. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.400 Hey, Bro, can you imagine the money we be washing 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:42.880 and getting? 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.760 What's the Let me actually look up what's the nearest 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.920 ski resort next to State College? 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.000 Chelsea Mountain? There you go? 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.520 Why go there when we can bring it here? Well, 0:08:55.360 --> 0:09:01.080 here's the thing, it's still the summer. You want to 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:06.280 go skiing in August. Can you help us out. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.240 Let's come in, let's come in, and let's let's spray 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.439 the mountain. I mean, you know, maybe that's why some 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.680 of these guys that are like thirty eight years old 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:22.960 are trying to go back and get their eligibility. You apparently, no, apparently, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:31.240 And I'm shocked to see that you guys love the way. 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.800 I would have said CRACKQ. I would have been offended. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:37.199 I ain't gonna lie to you. If they just say 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.760 it crack, they out there up school, they smoking crack, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.400 I'd be like, you know what, that's offensive. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:44.360 I don't like. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.480 But we have the rich man's drug. So that is true. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.200 That's a good way of looking at it. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.800 Looking at it, let's be hot, let's be high class degenerates, 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:57.679 if we're going to do it. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:03.600 So I was, and I'm impressed by your guys' commitment 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.200 to this business because I thought for sure when the 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:12.520 news came out that all of a sudden, there's the 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:17.040 ability for multiple players that have been signed by NFL 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:21.480 teams to go back to college because they'd like to 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.800 get another year of eligibility, including somebody who had two 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:31.720 sacks in a preseason game over the weekend. This whole 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.199 thing is wild that we are at the point now 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.480 where you can sign with a roster, be on an 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:42.320 NFL roster, be active in NFL games preseason or not, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.439 and still be able. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.480 To go back to college. 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.439 Based on what happened yesterday and the ruling that came 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.160 out yesterday, I don't get it. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.520 A few things here, the first being that some players 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.600 who are currently under contract are working with their agent 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:03.000 to get released out of that contract before think about that, 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.480 before they even get cut by an NFL team, or 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.680 if there's a chance to get cut by an NFL team, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.200 they're already trying to work on. And in most cases, 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.440 these guys went undrafted, so they're already trying to work 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.719 on getting back to the college level where there's more 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.760 of a guarantee of what they're going to make. They'll 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.480 be highly coveted because of their age, experience, and obviously 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.520 if they're able to at least make an NFL roster, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.719 it gives you a sense of how good they are 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.560 and how good they'll be at the college level. So 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:35.400 it's crazy that this, you know what. July thirty, first, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:41.320 Colorado Federal Judge ruling has now had this sort of impact, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.400 as all these other players have filed lawsuits as well 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.920 to be able to find their way back for this 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.760 fifth year if they graduated high school in twenty twenty two. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:57.360 So it's wild to think that, man. I mean there's 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.320 a part of me that like, does pride exist for 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.800 some of these guys? So like, is there an element 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:03.480 in your back of your mind where you're like, no, dude, 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.040 I wouldn't pro like I just had two sacks in 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:06.960 a game. I don't need to go back to college. Nope. 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.200 It would just feel like a little Van Wilder. It's like, yeah, ah, 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.240 the old guys back. Oh, here we go, here we 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.040 go again. Like I don't know, man, something about it 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.840 just maybe just because the area in which we played LeVar, Yeah, 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.400 it sits weird with me. I just feel like, I 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.080 don't know, kind of like a loser, like I couldn't 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.040 make it at that level or there was some concern. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:27.760 So I'm coming back and down here for another year. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.960 Let's run it back. Can I let me ask this question? 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.680 Does a year make a difference in making it onto 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.600 an NFL roster? I told my son this is true story. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:46.600 Both of them. If you're not NFL ready by your 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.480 third year of college. If you're not NFL ready by 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:54.640 your third year of college, start thinking about what your 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.000 other opportunities in life are going to be. Go to 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.200 the resource offices, meet with your professors, figure out what 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.480 it is that you're going to do. Because the best 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.640 time for you to get hired and get recruited to 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.040 a job where you can grow in it and have 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.280 a pretty decent ceiling is while you're in school. I 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:18.719 feel like outside of certain industries, if you graduate, if 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:23.440 you leave school, you're now immediately overqualified to get the job, 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.199 and they're going to get somebody that's already in school 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.600 that they're recruiting out of school to come get that job. 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.200 What if you're not ready by your fifth year. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.480 If you're not ready by your third year, could something 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.640 possibly potentially happen you have a growth spurt, you got 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.880 a late one, or you were a young freshman, a 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.160 young sophomore and starting to get a little older as 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.080 a junior. I would say yes, there are some exceptions 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:53.520 to the rule, but largely if you haven't acclimated to 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.680 college football well enough to be on the boards to 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:03.440 actually be a legitimate like employee for the National Football League. 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.760 If you went to the National Football League right now 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.679 as a fourth year senior, as if you come out 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.760 as a junior, you better make it, because that's stupid 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.559 to come out early and you don't make it. In 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.760 If you come out as a senior to go into 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.840 the NFL and you're not going to make a team, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.360 does coming back to college give you an extra or 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:24.000 did you go to. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.840 Camp and you're like, oh, I see what I have 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:26.120 to do. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.000 Let me go back to college and practice it and 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.880 see if I can get it right for next year. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.040 I just don't think you're going to improve enough to 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.040 be able to make it next year either. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.800 So here's where I'd say I think they can is 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.320 look at the case of Fernando Mendoza. Had he not 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:46.120 gone to Indiana and spent that year where they win 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.200 a national championship, he wins the Heisman, is he going 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.600 to be the number one overall pick? My guess is no. 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.120 He was at Cal, a starter, played for a couple 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.680 of years, was a good player, maybe even draftable, but 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:03.120 not first overall pick. So yeah, I would say can 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.360 make it, though that's draft stuff. But but but that's real. Like, 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.320 to me, that's real because that's what you're ultimately talking about. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.680 You were talking about some of these guys who are 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.640 able to come back for one more year, granted to 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.920 be a fifth year and be able to be a 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.960 guy who's undraftable to a guy who maybe goes in 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:19.640 the middle rounds. 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.240 So yeah, that makes a big difference. I look at 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.520 losing your job. That's how I'm looking at it. You 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.200 get into the league, whether you got drafted, whether you 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.840 were unrestricted free agent, and you're not going to But. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.840 That's not how they're not that's not how they're looking 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.520 at it. Like they're looking at their earning potential playing 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.880 the game of football, and now it's starting. Your clock 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.720 starts in college, you know, it used to be in 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.000 the NFL, So you'd be looking at, Okay, how do 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:44.920 I get to a second contract? How do I maximize 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.320 my chances of getting that big second contract, because that's 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.400 really where all the money is, and if you're lucky 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.680 enough and healthy enough, you can make the third contract. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.800 But now these guys are like, I'm trying to earn 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.440 all I can while I can playing the game of football. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.560 And that might start for some in high school that 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.640 might start then for some once to get to college. 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.560 But if they're into the third year and if they're 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.640 making money but they're not one of those top guys, 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.440 I would actually say what you're saying is great and 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.640 it's right, like you're not an outlier. But I would 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.760 say this. I would say, if you're not draft eligible, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.560 meaning like you haven't separated yourself by your third year, 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:24.960 I would say you should want to go for two 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.240 more years. You should want to maximize all you can 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:31.080 because there is a huge gap in between you know, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:35.000 picked your player that's going to be coming back, who 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.880 just got cut in camp or is trying to get 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.920 released to go back to play for his fifth year 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:43.200 in college football. He's probably gonna make half a million dollars, 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.200 maybe more depending on the position, depending on the school 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.680 and how much how much they have left in the 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.520 budget for him. It could be a million dollars. If 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:54.640 that guy was undrafted. He's not making that right, right, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.240 So all I'm saying. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.000 You know, you answered the question then, so it's not 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.680 even really about you guys. You said, do they have 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:01.760 shame to go back? 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:06.280 No, because there's a there's a business element. But I 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.119 still would be going back kind of like, hey guys, 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.199 I'm back again. You know what I was? You know 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:16.560 the other takeaway, Let's let's run back again. 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.760 Yes, you know. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.600 The program they do it, they do a program too, 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.159 or if it was a program, they're just like all 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.439 right here again, you know. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.439 But this also exposes how good the NFL is. It 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:41.360 does expose the talents because some of these guys will 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.200 go back to college and be ballers for their team. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.920 They'll be bothered it's to college, it's twofold. It does 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.480 show you how obviously incredible it is to play in 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.240 the NFL for any period of time. But it also 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.560 shows you, like, still how good that guy is, Like yeah, 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:00.919 he kind of made it for a little bit or 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.400 was there, but also he's damn good at college football. 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.280 Like I was just talking to you my sister about 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.879 something today about you know, just the odds of you know, 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.520 one of their friends got a women's Division one scholarship 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.840 you go to play soccer, and it was like, you 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.960 know how hard that is, you know if you do 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.119 the stats on it, like she is the three percent 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.640 of probably America that can go play for a Division 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:26.199 I program in a women's soccer program, considering all the 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.360 competition there is for that, Like, they're they're pretty damn good. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.080 And if you're this kid where you even have a 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.520 chance of getting drafted, or you go and can actually 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.080 play in a preseason end, be successful, and then you 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.960 come back down, you're highly coveted. Yeah, you're pretty damn good. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.560 Like I think all of it kind of demonstrates how 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.359 good they are even at each level. But yeah, I mean, 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.040 obviously the NFL level is the you know, ultimate level 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.879 you're trying to get to and and play at as 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.080 long as you can while you can. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.400 I just I don't know, man, like I would. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.800 I mean, what's what are we talking about difference wise 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.960 from you know, these guys going to the NFL, Like 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.480 a guy like you know, Jack Pieburn who had two 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.840 sacks in a preseason game and now he's, you know, 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.600 thinking about going back to college. I mean, what would 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.080 he be making as a rookie as opposed to what 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.040 he could get Nioise. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.760 Rookie minimum is probably what seven hundred thousand if he 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:21.639 made the roster, and that wouldn't come out until you know, 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.399 week one, you know that that week because obviously they'll 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.280 have cuts after camp and then there's some roster shuffling, 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.760 and really it's that week one game day roster that 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.080 solidifies your position. But it could be less than that 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.240 if he's on the practice squad. And that's what I 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:37.840 think some of these guys are worried about. Now, private 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.479 squad players are allowed to negotiate to be paid like 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.880 they are on the active roster. You know, that sometimes 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.320 gets lost in the shuffle where you know, guys will say, well, 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.040 I'm still getting you know, paid like I am if 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:50.639 I was on the active roster even though I'm not. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.760 But in his case, you know, he might be a 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.399 guy who gets a million bucks. I think the question 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.399 comes down to does he go back to LSU or 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.240 does he go back somewhere else Because there's also you know, 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.640 we're talking about this fifth year of eligibility for this 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.760 class of a high school class of twenty twenty two athletes. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.320 But there's also a challenge to the transfer portal window. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.120 And there's players now who are challenging and saying, well, 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.880 now the window has been shortened. That doesn't really fit 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:24.879 and it's not fair because of how everything else is operating. 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.480 I should be able to challenge the idea of a 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.960 transfer portal window. In general, that's where this thing, the 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.840 whole thing's going now too. And I think this is 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.040 all a sign that we haven't needed some sort of 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:41.600 federal legislation to calm this whole thing down, because what 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.000 you're having is individual judges all across the country, you know, 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.840 setting precedent and kind of baking up basically making the 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.119 rules as they go. And that's never good for the sport. 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.560 But unfortunately that's the world we're living in right now. 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:58.400 That's crazy, man, I just would you guys have done it? 0:20:58.400 --> 0:20:59.800 It's just hard to comprehend. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.760