1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Lou Penrose and for John Cobelt, good to have you 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: along with us. 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: A high risk for flash flooding has been issued for 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 3: southern California for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. A very 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: strong extreme atmospheric river four to seven inches of rain 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: in just eighteen hours. So this is incredible. You could 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: drive straight from the Oregon border to San Diego, that's 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: eight hundred and fifty miles and you'd be under a 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: floodwatch the entire time, according to the National Weather Service. 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: So yeah, California is gonna get a lot of rain. 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: Michael Monks is in the KFI newsroom any updates on 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: that forecast. 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: The updates are that local officials are basically telling you 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: Christmas is canceled. I mean that's what it sounds like. 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: It's it's drockting your car. Don't drive around if you 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 4: can avoid it, because the timing of this storm is 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: that unfortunate. I mean, nobody wants this type of storm 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: to blow through any time because it is so disruptive 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: and potentially dangerous. But this is Christmas week you know, 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: you expect people will be on the roads, either leaving 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 4: town or just visiting and getting together with friends and 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 4: family for this holiday. And what we have heard at 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: this most recent news conference just after twelve o'clock at 26 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: the City building, city officials and the National Weather Service 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: are saying, if you don't have to drive, stay off 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 4: the roads. 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: That's how dangerous they think this storm is going to be. 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Lou do you recall that ever being a warning in 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 1: the past. 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: I mean I've heard obviously forecasts and you know, for 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 3: everyone to know what's about to come. 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: And samdbag availabilities. 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: Oh, you know your local fire station, you can get 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: sandbags like I've heard that I have not heard in 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: southern California for rain to literally stay off the roads. 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: No, it's interesting because it feels like twenty twenty five 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: has been bookended by weather events. Obviously, in January we 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: had these destructive wildfires that destroyed the Palisades and Alta Dina. 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 4: And this was also noted by La County Sheriff Robert 42 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: Luna today that now it looks like we're ending the 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: year with potential floods. And I will say, just as 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: a journalist who's covered those things that this preparation does 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: bring back memories from the warnings that were coming out 46 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 4: back in January about what we were up against. And 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this is going to 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: come to fruition. Obviously, this is still a forecast. Nothing 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: has happened yet. We've had a little bit of drizzle 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: here in Burbank. It's cloudy, it's gloomy, it has weird vibes, 51 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: but we haven't experienced it yet. So what we're hearing 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: from officials is just to be ready. But the thing is, 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 4: we've been talking about a rainstorm, lou The rain is 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: only part of the problem. National Weather Service meteorologists Ariol 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 4: Cohen spoke at the city's news conference today, and here 56 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: is part of what he said. 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: Widespread, significant flooding will likely occur in urban and poor 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 5: drainage areas, especially in and around the higher terrain. There 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 5: will almost certainly be numerous rock slides and mudslides, along 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 5: with areas of severe flooding in urban locations and along freeways, 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 5: which is why being out on the roads will be 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 5: exceptionally dangerous. Additionally, flooding of smaller creeks and streams tributaries 63 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 5: will be likely, and mainstream river flooding will. 64 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Also be possible. And I want to specify that. 65 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: The flooding, rockslide and mudslide dangers will grow at a 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 5: gradual pace after the onset of the heavier rain tonight 67 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 5: into tomorrow morning. Because this is a long duration event, 68 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: it will take less and less rainfall to produce more 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 5: and more impacts from flooding, rock slides, and mudslides as 70 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 5: the week progresses. 71 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: What he says after that loo is just because we 72 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: get past any torrential rainfall, don't think you're out of 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: the world, Woods, because now because of that rainfall, the 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 4: ground has been destabilized and all that will take is 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: just a little bit of light rain to trigger potential 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: mud slides and rock slides. And by the way, it's 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 4: not just the burn scars that are to be affected 78 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: by this forecast. Obviously, the evacuation warnings are centered around 79 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: those recent burn scars, but it's the entirety of southern 80 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 4: California at this point where they're saying be advised. Rocks 81 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 4: could be tumbling down onto freeways. You could have streets 82 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: flooding in downtown Los Angeles. This is a widespread kind 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 4: of a scary forecast. 84 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: It is definitely a scary forecast. 85 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: And as I have been listening to this just you know, 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: just in the background, listening to these forecasts on the newscast, 87 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: and I always assume they're talking about the burn scar 88 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: That would make sense where there were just fires, it 89 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: would make sense. But you're right, they're saying everywhere you're 90 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: gonna get covered in our mud slide, Like if you're out, 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 3: you will certainly. You use the word certainty, like you 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: will certainly get you know, your car will get hit 93 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: by a boulder. I mean, it's kind of an ominous warning. 94 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: And I'm wondering what's different. I get it that there's 95 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: a lot of rain coming and it's coming for a 96 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: long duration, but there has been lesser rain events that 97 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 3: have caused some slides. I know that the rail corridor 98 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: between San Diego and Los Angeles in North San Diego 99 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: County was closed a number of times last year for 100 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: a couple of days, so you know that area might 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: have problems. But the way he made it sound is 102 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: if you're not safe anywhere in southern California, there's like, 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: don't go stand on a cliff exactly don't go stand 104 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: on a cliff overlooking a harbor, but you know, play 105 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: on a jetty. 106 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: But he made it sound like up in the foothills 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: you're in trouble. That's right. 108 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: I mean we've had rain events. We've had some rain 109 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: this year, and each time that any significant rainfall is 110 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: in the forecast, there is extra attention to the burn scars. 111 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: And we know that because the ground is destabilized as 112 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: susceptible to mud slides. It is rare to have these 113 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: types of events where local officials and meteorologists from the 114 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 4: National Weather Service are saying nowhere is safe and don't leave. 115 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: I mean they didn't come out and say don't celebrate Christmas, 116 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: don't go places, but let's say it was heavily suggested, 117 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 4: because that is when the brunt of this thing is 118 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: coming down as tomorrow Christmas Eve, and it's going through Friday. Also, 119 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: as it relates to burn scars, a lot of attention 120 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: on the Palisades burn scar, the Eaton burned scar, and 121 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 4: the Sunset burnscar that burn in the Hollywood Hills in January, 122 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: because those are very recent. But there are there significant 123 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 4: attention right now by officials to fires in the recent 124 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 4: past that include Agua, Dulce Lydia, Franklin Bridge Canyon, owen Hurst, 125 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: and Kenneth in Orange County, the Airport fire. I mean, 126 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 4: these are fires that obviously affected people, but we haven't 127 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: talked about in a while. I mean it's been Palisades 128 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: and Eaten fires that we've been talking about all year. 129 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: These other fires are also of great concern to local 130 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: officials because they're still destabilized and the amount of rain 131 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: that's in the forecast could cause some serious problems in 132 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 4: those areas well. 133 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: I mean, look, whether people are fun people. 134 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: They're you know that you know from the newsroom dealing 135 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: with weather people. They're an interesting bunch, but they are 136 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: not hysterical people, and they are true scientists and they 137 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: love this stuff. 138 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: So I guess the wisest. 139 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: Thing to do is to believe them and just be 140 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: weary that they say it's going to be worse than 141 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: just regular rain and uh and take heat. 142 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. 143 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's fair, And just to reiterate that 144 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: they are being very serious and stone face. This isn't 145 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: a fun forecast that they're talking about. Hey, we're getting 146 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: a little bit of snow in the mountains. Isn't that cute? Hey, 147 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: some rains coming down, that's great news for a fire season. 148 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: This is serious. Also, we should know we haven't touched 149 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: on this. There's widespread wind gusts expected between thirty five 150 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 4: and fifty five miles per hour across every single part 151 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 4: of southern California. So you've got the wind, you've got 152 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 4: the water, you've got the mud, you've got the rocks, 153 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 4: you've got the potential flooding. This is gonna be one 154 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: heck of a Christmas week. 155 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the tree branches will fall and then go 156 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: and clog up the storm drain and it's the perfect 157 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: store of a mess out there. 158 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Well, I was I was told. 159 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: It's been reported that e bikes will be one of 160 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: the top gifts that Sanna is going to bring down 161 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: that chimney, And there's gonna be a lot of people 162 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: that are gonna want to try out. 163 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Their new e bike. 164 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: And doesn't look like they're gonna be able to get 165 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: outside anytime. 166 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: After Christmas kind of thing. Yeah, just sitting in the 167 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: garage yearning. Oh boy, Michael Monks, thanks so much. Good 168 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: to talk with you. 169 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Likewise, all right, when we come back a huge win 170 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 3: for California parents. There's been a lawsuit against the California 171 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 3: Department of Education over the whole pronoun thing and whether 172 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: or not teachers should be allowed or barred from telling 173 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: parents that the child wants to be referred to by 174 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: a different pronoun and a judge made a decision. We'll 175 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: tell you all about it coming up next to Lou 176 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: Penrose in for John Cobelt on I AM six forty 177 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio Act. 178 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 179 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,239 Speaker 6: six forty. 180 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on the John coblt Show. 181 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: A federal judge has ruled. 182 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: That California's parental exclusion policy is unconstitutional and stop schools 183 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: from secretly having conversations with children about their pronouns. So 184 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: this is one of the most incredible fights we are 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: having in modern day society. 186 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: It really is the. 187 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: People that run our public schools in California have a 188 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: maturity problem. 189 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: They absolutely have a maturity. 190 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: Problem in that they believe a conversation with a child 191 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: supersedes a conversation with that child's adult parent. And I 192 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: part of me cannot believe that we have to take 193 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: this issue to court. 194 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: Part of me cannot. 195 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: Believe that every one of these school board members haven't 196 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: been recalled and ostracized for being immature idiots unfit to 197 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: oversee children. 198 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: But we have to go to court. 199 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: And the ruling by a federal judge said the parental 200 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: exclusion is unconstitutional fifty two page judgment. Under the fourteenth Amendment, 201 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: parents have a substantive due process right to know, to 202 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: know of, and explore whether their own child's gender incongruences 203 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: is a medical or psychological condition. Imagine that a judge 204 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: had a rule that parents have a right to know 205 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: what's going on with their own kids. So here's what happened, 206 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: in case you miss the story. The California Department of 207 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: Education and the entire teacher class or the educator class 208 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: in the state is all woke with trans. They love 209 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: trans everything trans. Now, trans is the new black. 210 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: That's what they love. 211 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: The trans kids, they love the trans discussions, and they 212 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: fight hard to protect all the trans rites. And school 213 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: districts have decided that if a child says, hey, teacher, 214 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: I don't want to be called lou anymore. I want 215 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: to be called Louise, and I want to be identified 216 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: as such. So instead of saying he says she with 217 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: respect to me. And the school districts have said, if 218 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: that happens in your classroom, teacher, you're not allowed to 219 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: share that with the parent and you're not allowed to 220 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: you can't rat out the child. So you can't change 221 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: like you could do that in the classroom, but if 222 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: you have to send an email to the parent, you 223 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: have to use the original name and the original pronoun. 224 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: You have to hide what you know from the child's parent. 225 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: So two teachers. 226 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: Followed a lawsuit in Escondido Union School District down in 227 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 3: San Diego, the California Board of Education and Rincon. 228 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: Middle School Middle School. This is going on in middle school, 229 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: Lovely just peaches. 230 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: So the teacher said, look, I'm not comfortable hiding this 231 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: information from parents, and you telling me that I cannot 232 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: talk to the parents about what I know about their 233 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: child is a violation of my First Amendment right. 234 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: And that was the basis of the suit. 235 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 7: And so essentially the school's policy said that if a 236 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 7: student has a pronoun change at school, if they want 237 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 7: to go by a different name or pronoun at school, 238 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 7: then you cannot tell parents about it. 239 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: How about that that the school district, these three school 240 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: districts had a policy, well, these two and then the 241 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: California Board of Education supported them that you cannot tell 242 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: the parent. You cannot You will suffer consequences if you 243 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: out the kid that he wants to be called a her. Unbelievable, right, 244 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's unthink if you take a step back, 245 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: it's unthinkable in mature society that we're wrestling with this. 246 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: But the judge saw fit to give parents their rights back. 247 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 7: And so there was even emails sent to staff that 248 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 7: included the list of students who were socially transitioning at 249 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 7: school but had had restrictions on who you could talk 250 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 7: to at home. 251 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: Right, So there was actually a list of the good 252 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: parents and the bad parents. The school district sent out 253 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: emails to the teachers and said, if you have to 254 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: get in touch with a parent and it involves the 255 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: child and in any way, shape or for any of 256 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: the communication will tip the hand that the child is 257 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: being referred to as a different gender, or the child 258 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: insisted on a different. 259 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: Pronoun then you got to go to the good parent. 260 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: Can you imagine this? Well, why not the father. 261 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: Well, child says, father might not want to know about it. Well, 262 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: but it's the father. Yeah, but we know better. We're 263 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: the school, so only reach out to the mother or 264 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: vice versa. Maybe the mother has a hard time with it, 265 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: who knows. But this is how involved in your family 266 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: these school districts want to be. And it's supported by 267 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: the Board of Education. It's incredible to me, absolutely incredible 268 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: to me. Gender identification or gender confusion or any of 269 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: those things has nothing to do with education, has nothing 270 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: to do with the school. If a child wants to 271 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: be called a different name or identified as a different gender, 272 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: if they want to socially transition, then they need to 273 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: have a note from the their parent, And then the 274 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: parent and the child go down to the front desk 275 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: and say, I want to change my kid's name in 276 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: the register, right, just like if they would change their 277 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: last name. A lot of times this happens. Families break 278 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: up and mother assumes the maiden name, fathers no longer 279 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: in the picture, or vice versa, and there's a legal 280 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: change to the last name, or just they want that 281 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: last name or a hyphenated last name. 282 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: Like that's all fine. 283 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: Parents have rights to do that the parent and the 284 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: child go and direct the school what to do, not 285 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: the other way around, and certainly not the child. 286 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: These are children. 287 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: They are expected to be immature, you know why they're immature. 288 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: But for the adult teacher or the adult administrator or 289 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: the adult educators to go along with the whims of 290 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: a child is ludicrous, absolutely ludicrous. 291 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 7: And so they had kind of a list of you know, 292 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 7: here's you can talk to dad and he knows, or 293 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 7: like the mom knows, but don't tell the other parents 294 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 7: sort of things. 295 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: Can you imagine school districts sending out emails to teachers 296 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: to coach them on how to lie to a family. 297 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: It's like the worst conceivable thing. 298 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: You want to have a strong adult front to a 299 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: child about anybody lying to you, or anybody lying in 300 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: your family, or anybody directing people to lie. 301 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: Very very dangerous when a child cannot trust an adult 302 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: to be truthful. 303 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: There are bad people who lie to children for very 304 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: devious and terrible goals. So you don't want to engage that. 305 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: You don't want to normalize lying. You don't want to 306 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: normalize misleading. You don't want to normalize not saying anything 307 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: because somebody might get upset that that's not good for children, 308 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: and that's exactly what these teachers were directed to do, 309 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: and they sued and they won. So maybe, just maybe 310 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: sanity is being restored, but I suspect the. 311 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: Education class in the state will push back. We'll see 312 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: where it goes. 313 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: Loup Penrose Info John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty 314 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 315 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM sixty. 316 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: Loup Penrose in for John Cobelt, Good to be with you. 317 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: A federal judge has ruled in favor of parents, saying 318 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: that California's parental exclusion policy is unconstitutional and as blocked 319 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: schools from secretly keeping children's desires to socially transition a 320 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: secret from the parent. Socially transition means the child wants 321 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: to be referred to as a different gender and wants 322 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 3: the pronouns to be consistent with the new gender. One 323 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: of the schools, one of the two teachers sued one 324 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: on behalf of three at two schools. 325 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: One was a middle school, Rincon middle school. 326 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: So this stuff is going on in middle schools, and 327 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 3: it looks like parents got a little bit of their 328 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: rights back. 329 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 8: Hey, Louis, the first thing is Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. 330 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 8: Second thing, if the teacher is not allowed to tell 331 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 8: the parents and the child wants to be called by 332 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 8: a different name, then if I was that teacher, it 333 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 8: wasn't for calling that child by a different name. Just 334 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 8: called them by their last name. Only that's it, because 335 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 8: that would really never change it until they're get married 336 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 8: or whatever. 337 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: All right, God bless, God bless. That's not going to work. 338 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: You can't just start calling kids in your classroom by 339 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: their last name like you work at a taxi stand. 340 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: And it isn't that the teacher didn't want to share 341 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: with the parent. Was that the teacher was not allowed 342 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 3: to the school district's policies were This is a very 343 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 3: important distinction, right because if the parent said, hey, uh, 344 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: my child is uh we're having my child's My child 345 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: would wishes that you refer to him as her and 346 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: call her call her this new name and use the 347 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: appropriate pronouns, and my husband and I are fine. 348 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: With it, and uh so that's what we'd like. 349 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: Like if that happened, then the teacher would be compelled 350 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: to follow instruction, right, I mean, I assume. I don't 351 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: think a teacher would have a problem. I don't think 352 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: any of these teachers had problems. I think the problem 353 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 3: is when the teacher is being asked to keep it 354 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: a secret, to violate a trust, to either not reach 355 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: out to a specific parent that's on a list provided 356 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: to them by the school board. 357 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: Now, I don't call the father. 358 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 3: I saw he's got to make America great against heer 359 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: on his car the last time he came to pick 360 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: up the kid. 361 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: Call the mother. 362 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: Like that's the kind of stuff that was going on. 363 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: Teachers were actively making assumptions about the progressive soul of 364 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: these parents and knowingly keeping parents in the dark. The 365 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: order was not to you cannot you shun't tell the parents, 366 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: but should a situation arise in which you had to, 367 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: you had to communicate. 368 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: With the parent. Then you had to keep like be 369 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: not mentioned and. 370 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: You know, find out, well, what was the kid's original name, 371 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: and make sure you use the right pronouns. So, yeah, 372 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: they were putting teachers in a spot where they were 373 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: knowingly misleading parents, and that was the lawsuit. Teachers said, 374 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: we don't like to be placed in this spot. So 375 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 3: and I don't know that the teachers did or didn't 376 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: agree with the whole social transitioning. 377 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: I would hope they didn't agree. 378 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: Kind of immature stuff like if a child wants to pretend, 379 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: A child can pretend, but adults ought not be pretending. 380 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: And as I said, think about because the child would know, right, Hey, 381 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: I am socially transitioning. I'm using a different gender, I'm 382 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: using a different pronoun. The teacher's in on it. So 383 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: now the child knows that the teacher is lying to 384 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 3: the parent or misleading or omitting. 385 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: To cover for the child. Right. 386 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: So that's a very inappropriate relationship where the child and 387 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: the teacher know that they're keeping a secret from the parent. 388 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 3: Think about the terrible implications that could come from that 389 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: level of secrecy between any adult that's spending eight hours 390 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: a day with your child and your child. 391 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know where I'm going here. 392 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: It's not good. 393 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: Ab it, heat is distrust. 394 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how you raise your kids, but my 395 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: wife and I we don't abide line. And I hate 396 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: it when my family puts me in a position to lie. 397 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: Sometimes it happens, especially around this time of year. We 398 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: I mean, like little white lies and I, you know, oh, 399 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: don't tell this family member that that family member, uh, 400 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: you know came over and stayed like just little. 401 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: Stuff like that. 402 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: I don't want my kids hearing that, and I don't 403 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: want the adults in their lives asking them. 404 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: To keep keep a secret. I don't think it's healthy. 405 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: And I live my life out loud. 406 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 9: As you can tell from today's job Lou. Come on, 407 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 9: and Gavin Newson wants to be president. He thinks he 408 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 9: should be more trans kids. This transisue. They had to 409 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 9: get sue to stop it, and he really thinks he's 410 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 9: going to be president. He's just an empty headed moron, 411 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 9: is what he is. 412 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you. 413 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 3: I think this is a bigger Achilles heel for Democrats 414 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: in California than they think. If you wanted to defend 415 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: adults rights to transition their gender as a Democrat, I 416 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: think you could get away with it. I think you 417 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: ought to be able to do that as a Republican. 418 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 3: I am a Republican and I don't care what you do. 419 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: Like that's your life. If you feel better having nails 420 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: and painting your nails and growing your hair out and 421 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: want to wear a dress and you are more comfortable 422 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, go for it. Man, live any life 423 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: you want. This is your one shot on planet Earth. 424 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: Be as comfortable as you can be. I'll even do 425 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: you the courtesy of calling you whatever name you want. 426 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: But those are adults, and I think that's where Newsome 427 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: and so many Democrats in California made the mistake. Children 428 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: are a different story, all together, completely different story. That's 429 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: why when you go and see the drag queen shows 430 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 3: in downtown Palm Springs at Lulu's, there's an age, right. 431 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: They don't let children in to go. 432 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: See the drag queen show at nine o'clock and eleven 433 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 3: o'clock in downtown Palm Springs. 434 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: You know why. This is adult entertainment. Drag queen is adult. 435 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: It's burlesque. It's adult entertainment, not for children. But it's 436 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: still fun. It's a hoot. 437 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 3: I've been to drag shows and they're hilarious, but it's 438 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: adult entertainment and nobody. I don't think any fair person 439 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: would have any problem with adults deciding to transition larger, 440 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: stay out of the woman's locker room. 441 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: I think everybody's cool. 442 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: When you get into children, it gets creepy and quite ikey, 443 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: and Democrats and their friends in the education system in 444 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: the state are in ikey Land, And I yeah, I 445 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: think if Newsom defends that he is toast on. 446 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: A national stage. Lou Penrose. 447 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: If John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show on KFI 448 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: AM six fourty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio. 449 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 6: App, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AI. 450 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on The John Cobelt 451 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: Show coming up. Following the news at three ABC News, 452 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: legal analysts Royal Oaks will join us to get yet 453 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: another Epstein dump data dump update. More files were released, 454 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: more photos, more pages with redacted names, and the irony 455 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: is that the more information that comes out, the less 456 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: any of this has to do with President Trump, and 457 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: the more we see photos of former President Bill Clinton 458 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 3: luxuriating like. 459 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: In hot tubs and stuff. So there's no there there 460 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: never was, and Trump is right. 461 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 3: The whole Epstein thing was a Democrat attempt to distract 462 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: from the good economic news that his policies are assuring. 463 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: In Hey, following Christmas, you're gonna return stuff and most 464 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: of your favorite stores are imposing a return fee. Many 465 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: popular American retailers are going to be charging a restock fee. 466 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: They used to call it a restocking fee. Let's see 467 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: here Ambercrombie and Fitch seven dollars, American Eagle Outfitter five dollars, 468 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: Best Buy forty five dollars on all returns unopen like 469 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: if you get it. 470 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: Don't want it, don't try it on. 471 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: Tags are still on it at HMM three ninety nine 472 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: to restock it, Jay Crew seven point fifty, J C. 473 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: Penny and eight dollar feet. Where is there a J? C. Penny, 474 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 3: Marshall's eleven ninety nine and Macy's nine ninety nine. So 475 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: we'll tell you how it applies, because it's not for 476 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: every purchase, and get your thoughts on it. 477 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: That's all coming up following the news. 478 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 8: At three, my brother is a middle school English teacher, 479 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 8: and I asked him what he does, and he says, Hey, 480 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 8: that's it. 481 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: Hey you come over here, Hey you sit down. That's 482 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: how he gets around it. That's an interesting tactic. I 483 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: don't know. 484 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 3: That we want teachers referring to their own pupils as strangers. 485 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 3: Look I like teachers, they're in a spot and they 486 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 3: don't want to be in this political spot. Most of 487 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 3: them are not political activists. Most of them want to 488 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: actually take a child from September and see how far 489 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: they've come by May and June. At least that's been 490 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 3: my experience. Teachers are a special breed. They don't get 491 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 3: paid nearly enough. They know they're not going to get 492 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: paid nearly enough. Many of them have very expensive degrees 493 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: because you have to have a master's and you have 494 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: to have a teaching credential, and that costs money, and 495 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: the starting salary of a teacher is way too low. 496 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: But they go into the profession for their love of 497 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 3: watching child's minds grow. And the teachers that I've had 498 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: experience with, and I've had boys, and they all went 499 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: to public school kindergarten through sixth through eighth grade, and 500 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: they're just wonderful people. Never had a bad experience with 501 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: the teacher. I mean, that was before all this woke 502 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 3: stuff happened, but it wasn't that long ago. And I 503 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: just I noticed that about teachers. They really just their 504 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: favorite part is watching children grasp concepts and learn. So 505 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: they don't want to get involved in all this. And 506 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to put teachers in the middle of 507 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: all this either, even if they agree with the whole 508 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: notion of a middle school child socially transitioning, they don't 509 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: need to be caught in I can't tell the parent. 510 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to tell the parent. I'm not allowed 511 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: to tell the parent. I'll get fired if I tell 512 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: the parent. They don't want to be in that spot. 513 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: They also don't want to be the cell phone police either, 514 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: which is another reason why I'm not hot on the 515 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: cell phone ban, because it makes the teachers the cell 516 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: phone cops, and teachers don't have time to be cell 517 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: phone cops. Right at the end of the day, who 518 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: police is whether or not the cell phone is in 519 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: the back pocket or in the backpack, or in the 520 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: locker or locked in the car in the parking lot. Right, 521 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: each school district is going to have their own rules. 522 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: My oldest high school, it has to be out of 523 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: the classroom. It can be on the campus in the backpack, 524 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: in the locker, but not in the classroom. 525 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: And in middle school it's not allowed on the campus. 526 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: So it's like all different rules, and then ultimately it's 527 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: the teacher who's the one that has to be the police. 528 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: And I don't want them doing that. That's not their job. 529 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 8: Well, you can blame all of this on Governor Transnusim. 530 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: He's gonna have to account for a lot of these discussions. 531 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 10: So you know about what it's like to be a 532 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 10: trans kid or a gay boy who when they come 533 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 10: out to their conservative Catholic or Christian parents, when they 534 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 10: throw them out of the house, disown them, or treat 535 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 10: them differently, that that's an okay thing, and that you 536 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 10: know best stupid. 537 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, ma'am, you are a very immature woman and you 538 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: probably need to stay out of this discussion. Leave it 539 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: to the grown ups to discuss this one. That's the 540 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: immaturity that I think has gripped so many of the 541 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: boards of education throughout the public school districts across the state. 542 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: That level of immaturity. 543 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: Nobody is saying that a child should be kicked out 544 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: of their house. Nobody supports that it has nothing to 545 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: do with being Christian or Catholic. 546 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: Atheists kick their. 547 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: Children out of the house too, So that what you're 548 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: talking about is child abuse. 549 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: And what you're suggesting is that we need to. 550 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: Protect children from child abuse by lying to the parents, 551 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: which is not the way to go. Child psychologists and 552 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: child social workers would not support keeping parents in the 553 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: dark because you presume that they're wearing a crucifix or 554 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: have a cross around their neck, that they're socially conservative, 555 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: and therefore we'll throw the child out of the house 556 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: for coming out as being gay. It's absurd, lazy thinking, 557 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: and we children rely on us to be mature, not immature. 558 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: So stay out of this one. You're in over your head, 559 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: but I appreciate the call. 560 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on 561 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. 562 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 563 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 564 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 565 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.