1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: all over the place. Buck is in Los Angeles. I 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: am in Asheville, North Carolina. Flew in here this morning 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: on a helicopter. Really difficult to get into Ashville and 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: many of the surrounding communities if you are basically trying 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: to travel in any way. We're going to get more 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: information about how crazy it has been over the past 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. We bring into the studio here with 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: me in Ashville, Mark Starling six to nine am Eastern 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: morning show host here on five. 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Seventy am WWNC. 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: Also news director and Mark, I just want to start 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: with this, when did you become aware that this was 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: going to be a major disaster? And tell people how 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: many days in a row you've spent this air. This 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: station never went off air. You guys have continued to 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: communicate with everybody what should they know about your experience 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: in the early days of this hurricane disaster. 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: So we kind of had an idea. On Wednesday, we 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: were talking to our meteorologist from the Weather Channel, and 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: he said, we've been working with him for ten years. 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: In that ten years, i've heard him use the word 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: catastrophic maybe once. He used it twice in the same segment, 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: and I knew right then, like this is not a 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: guy who's hyperbolic. We were dealing with something different. Thursday, 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: we came up with a game plan. My producer, Tank Spencer, 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: He and I were like, Okay, we're going to stay 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: at the station Thursday night, probably gonna be able to 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: go home Friday night. Storm is gonna go past. I 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: covered hurricanes for most of the fifteen years of the 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: start of my career. Right about Thursday evening we started 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: to realize when things were already flooding and the storm 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: hadn't gotten here, we knew we were in bad shape. 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: We had six inches of rain prior to this storm 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: even coming close to North Carolina, which meant everything was 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: already saturated. It wasn't gonna take much to blow trees over. 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: So we stayed Thursday night. We got up Friday morning 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: and did the morning show like we normally do, kind 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: of went through the day, and it was getting progressively 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: worse and worse. And obviously, you know, by Friday night 44 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: it was in full swing, so we had lost We 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: never lost power. I'm sorry we lost power. We never 46 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: went off the air. We lost internet on Saturday at 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 3: two thirty six pm, right on the nose. I remember 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: looking at the clock and I remember seeing our phones 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: go down, and so we had no communication with the 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 3: outside world. We had no way to get any sort 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: of new information. We had no way to use our phones, 52 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: we had no cell service. A buddy of mine happened 53 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: to be listening over in West Dashville and heard us say, listen, folks, 54 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 3: we're at a we're at a disadvantage here. We don't 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: have any information. We can't take your phone calls. We're 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 3: going to go back to regular programming and try to 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: gather some information. He actually ended up hiking up here. 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: He drove as close as he could, hiked in with 59 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: a Ham radio had already talked to the Ham radio 60 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: network around here and said, hey, look Mark, Mark is 61 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: going to key up the mic. He's going to try 62 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: to get all the information he can from you guys, 63 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: and then he's going to go back on the air 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: and he and ten you're going to relate to everybody 65 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: that's listening, and that's how we operated for about twelve 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: to fourteen hours. We heard a noise out in the 67 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: hallway and we were on a break and we stuck 68 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: our heads out there, and here are the most beautiful 69 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: site I've ever seen, was to iHeartRadio engineers with a 70 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: starlink strapped to their back coming down the hallway, and 71 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: I knew at that point we were okay. 72 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: So eulog starlink is the reason you were able to 73 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: get back on the internet. 74 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: Correct, Correct, So we got back on the internet Saturday night, 75 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: and we basically stayed round the clock taking phone calls, 76 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: listening to I mean, people were scared. No one ever 77 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: thought a hurricane would come to western North Carolina, and 78 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Tank and I kind of sat and talked about it, 79 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: and we were like, look, it's going to be our 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: job to help these people get through this hurricane. The 81 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: noises you're gonna hear in the middle of the night 82 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: are going to scare the crap out of you. You're 83 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: not going to know what's going on because you can't 84 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: see anything, and when you wake up tomorrow morning, it 85 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: could be even a scarier site when you look outside. 86 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: And so we were really trying to just kind of 87 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: prep people for this and like really walk them through 88 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: step by step, and we kept saying, look, it's okay 89 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: to not be okay. This is a super scary time. 90 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: The phone calls started coming in and they started getting 91 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: scarier and scarier and scarier. We took a call from 92 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: a gentleman who was up in the second floor of 93 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: his house with his wife and their seven year old grandson. 94 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: He called and we were chatting with him, and this 95 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: was literally like just minutes before everything kind of went chaotic, 96 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: and he says, oh, you know, we're gonna be okay. 97 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: We're We've had flooding here before. They weren't okay. They 98 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: didn't make it, and it evolved you on. They called 99 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: us on the air and he talked to us and 100 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: he said, you know, I've been meeting to clean this 101 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: place out. I wanted to kind of downsize. He's like, 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: it looks like that's going to be taking care of 103 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: for me. And within hours they were gone. So we 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: realized then that we had to have a connection, and 105 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: so we decided that hey, listen, if you know someone 106 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: that's missing, call us here at the radio station. 107 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: Give us their name. 108 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: And address and phone number, and we will like, we're 109 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: going to try to crowdsource wellness checks. So we started 110 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: doing that. We get a call from this guy's name 111 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: is Chris Henderson and he is an absolute angel, and 112 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: he said, listen, I'm out here doing wellness checks. What 113 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: if we team up together and you start taking the 114 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: names and the addresses, you send them to me and 115 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: I'll send my team out there. So we did, and 116 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: as of right now, I think we are at like 117 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty eight families that have been reunited 118 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: with their loved ones. I think it was like four 119 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty eight people or something like that. And 120 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: then we started the iHeartRadio Ashville Chainsaw Gang, and we've 121 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: got a group of chainsaw cutters and they literally just 122 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: go and take houses or trees off people's houses and 123 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: they don't charge them. This is all stuff that we 124 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: were able to crowdsource through the power of radio. And 125 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: I think that for us is really what the story 126 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: is here. When the TV couldn't do it, the newspaper 127 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: couldn't do it, there was nothing online. The only thing 128 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: left was AMFM radio. All seven stations stayed on the air, simulcasted. 129 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: When our team was able to get into the building, 130 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: the cavalry had arrived and we went we were walled 131 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: the wall. I actually got to sleep at home for 132 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: the first time last night. 133 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: You were sleeping here at the station. 134 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: I've been here. I was at the station for fourteen days, 135 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: never went home. My wife she wasn't going to evacuate, 136 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: and he say, I wasn't too happy about that. Got 137 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: a call on Friday morning and she said, you know what, 138 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: We've had to evacuate. We're at a gas station. I've 139 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: got all four dogs and our son Eli. We're just 140 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 3: going to have to ride it out here. There are 141 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: actually waves coming cresting over the top of the overpass 142 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: down on the Highway nine in Black Mountain, which is 143 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: where we live. And it was one of the hardest 144 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 3: hit areas. And I didn't hear from her for forty 145 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: eight hours. And when she did call, we were on 146 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: the air, and she had actually gone to a Black 147 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 3: Mountain town hall meeting that they had. She called in 148 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: and my producer Tank, he puts their caller's name up 149 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: on the screen and I looked over and I thought, 150 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: what is it. Wait, this can't be She's the only 151 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: Brandy I know that spells it with too ease at 152 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: the end, and from pretty much that point on, it 153 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: was it was waterworks. It was just I was just 154 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: so happy to know that they were okay. I have 155 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: not seen them since the Wednesday. Uh, they were evacuated 156 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: down the sistern loss house with their four dogs and 157 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: they're doing great. They you know, it just we made it. 158 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: We met on a lot better than a lot of 159 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: folks did. I mean, we took some damage to our home, 160 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: but nothing in comparison to what some of these folks 161 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: have lost. 162 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 5: Mark, appreciate you being with us and giving us first 163 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 5: of all that this is just this incredible, uh story 164 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 5: about what you and the station have been through and 165 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 5: also been able to accomplish over the last two weeks. 166 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 5: What is the what are the imminent needs right now? 167 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 5: I mean what what is the focus of these rescue 168 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 5: and recovery now really, I guess more recovery efforts currently 169 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: going forward? Like what what has to happen, what needs 170 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 5: need to be met? Uh, what's on the ground doing 171 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 5: at all of that? 172 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: So you know, as far as like supplies that have 173 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: that have come in, I mean, it has just been. 174 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: It has been an American out pouring. It's incredible to 175 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: see the amount of supplies that we have, and right 176 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: now we're really good on supplies. But this is not 177 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: a short term situation. Our water system was decimated by 178 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: about eighty five percent of it. I think there's eighteen 179 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: hundred miles of waterline in Ashville. Eighty five percent of 180 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: it's gone. So what we're really you know, what we're 181 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: really hoping for is that we can get the water 182 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: back online as fast as possible. They're measuring that time 183 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: off out of water in weeks and not days. 184 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: Power is back on. 185 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: There's still about a thirty thousand people in Bunkham County, 186 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: which is where we are, that is that that are 187 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: still without power. It's getting better and better every day. 188 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: But you know, I think what we're worried about in 189 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 3: the long term is we've got cooler weather moving in 190 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: and we've got people who used to have homes that 191 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: don't have homes, and really, you know, I think the 192 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: big thing is is all of these groups that are 193 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: on the ground in here, whether they are doing you know, 194 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: whether they're doing recovery work or whether they're doing supply work. 195 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: We work with a group called Heartswidthands dot org. It's 196 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: a local charity. They're based out of Swannanoah, which was 197 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: one of the most devastated areas, and strangely, every single 198 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: thing around their warehouse was destroyed, but their warehouse wasn't touched. 199 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: They have two functions. They feed all of our first 200 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 3: responders hot meals every day, and then they also package 201 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: food boxes for pickup and delivery for folks who are 202 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: in need in the community. You know, usually hearts with hands, 203 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: they're the ones that are loading up the trailers and 204 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: are taken to Florida or somewhere else. I don't think 205 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: anybody ever thought it was gonna happen here. And you know, 206 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: this storm was so different because of the terrain. You know, 207 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: a storm hits Florida, you got miles of beachline for 208 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: the water to reced to. There's nowhere for the water 209 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: to recede to here, So it was literally like a 210 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: thirty five foot wall of water and debris that came 211 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: down the French Broad River and just decimated everything in 212 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: its path. I mean, there are towns that used to 213 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: be here that don't exist anymore. And it's you know, 214 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: as someone who covered hurricanes their entire career living in Florida, 215 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: I've never been through anything like this before. I mean, 216 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 3: the just the fury that the water has brought to 217 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: western North Carolina is just incredible. 218 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: I think this is important. I was just talking out 219 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: front with a state trooper who came by. We're talking 220 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: with Mark Starling, hosts six to nine am Eastern morning 221 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: shows on this incredible story here at five seventy am WWNC. 222 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: I forty many things. I asked out front. How long 223 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: is this gonna take? 224 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: He said, this is gonna take years to rebuild. 225 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: So for people out there who haven't done anything yet, 226 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: maybe they haven't recognized the severity of this. There's gonna 227 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: be a need for help here four months and months. 228 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: To come, if not years. I mean, we're a tourism 229 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 3: based economy. There's only one thing to see here right now, 230 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: and that's destruction. Yeah, you know, hotels are not able 231 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: to rent hotel rooms because you can't rent a hotel 232 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: room without running water. So that is pretty much you. 233 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: Guys don't have running water still at the radio. 234 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: Still, that's right. Yeah, we've been without water since I 235 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: believe it was Friday. Is when we lost water. Yeah, 236 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: it is. It's an untenable situation for a lot of people. 237 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 3: And there are people that are leaving. You know, there 238 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: were certain places that right after the storm happened and 239 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: that they were saying, listen, if you can leave, leave, 240 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: help's not coming. And it's like, well, whoa wait a second, here, 241 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: these are our communities. We're not going anywhere. And you know, 242 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: for what we wanted to do here at the radio station, 243 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: at iHeart Asheville was we wanted to show the community that, like, 244 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: we can get through this. And we've been kind of 245 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 3: repeating this line. Community is the answer to this crisis, 246 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: and it is amazing. You know, people have I always 247 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: go back to this one phone call and a guy 248 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: came called in and he says, you know, I've helped 249 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: so many of my neighbors today and I didn't even 250 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: ask you. They voted for first And it's just kind 251 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: of that, like everything else outside of western North Carolina, 252 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: everything else doesn't matter right now. Like our job as 253 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: a as a station and as a group of stations 254 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: and as an airstaff is to kind of unite our 255 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: unity and bring us bring everyone together and get through 256 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: this together. I mean, it's going to be a heavy lift, 257 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: and what we have seen is the absolute best in 258 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 3: humanity in an absolute horrific, horrific time. 259 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: We asked whether it was appropriate to even try to 260 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: come in here. You guys need so much help. The 261 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: story was, we want you to help get this story 262 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: because you're talking to all fifty states right now. You're 263 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: talking to people all over the world, really, but certainly 264 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: in all fifty states. What would you ask of them? 265 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: What can they do if they're listening right now and 266 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: they're hearing about how bad things are in western North Carolina? 267 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: Honestly, I would I would recommend giving. Yeah, if you 268 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: can give, please give heartswithands dot org is again such 269 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: a wonderful organization. It's local. All that money stays local 270 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: as far as help goes. If you have a skill 271 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: and it's and you feel like it would be worthy. 272 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: We need help here. 273 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: You know. 274 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: The clean up, the you know, for the most part, 275 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: has gone pretty well, but there is just so much 276 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: of it. You know, We've got our our chainsaw teams 277 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: from the radio station. They're running wide open pretty much 278 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: from six a m. Until seven or eight o'clock at night, 279 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, The one thing I guess that 280 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: we don't need is people coming to Western North Carolina 281 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: per se to the to the heavy disaster zones and 282 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: kind of clogging things up. There are areas in western 283 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: North Carolina that are open for business. 284 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: Maggie Valley. 285 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: I got a call today from a business owner. He's like, 286 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: hey man, He's like, I run a knife shop, and 287 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: he's like, we're totally open for business here and and 288 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: we would really rather, you know, like direct people to 289 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: us if you if you can't, if they can't hang 290 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: out in Nashville, tell them to go come up to 291 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: Maggie Valley and see us, or go to Waynesville. And 292 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: you know, there's a there's some there's some good truth 293 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: to that because these other these other like areas, they 294 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 3: too are tourist economies. 295 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: This is what happened in Hawaii, right where absolutely everybody 296 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: decided they didn't want to go to Hawaii, bucking the 297 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 2: whole thing. So one more time that website, and by 298 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: the way, what you did, thanks to you, you and 299 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: sacrifices that you made for your family. I can't even 300 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: imagine what you've gone through talking to so many people 301 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: in so many positions of peril. This is the best 302 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: of radio. 303 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: It absolutely is, and I gotta I have to shout 304 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 3: out my team because the team here at iHeart Ashville 305 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: is truly the most incredible group of people. They're most 306 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: of our staff works on music stations. They're not familiar 307 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: with the news talk format. That didn't matter because it 308 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: wasn't such a so much of a formatic thing. It 309 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: was we just need to be able to show people 310 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: that we're here to and we care and we're gonna 311 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: help you one way or the other. If we can't 312 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: help you, we will find someone to help you. And 313 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: that's how it's worked out. And the community has answered 314 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: those calls and said, hey, you know what, I can 315 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: go over there and check on this guy. I you know, 316 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: I'm on my way to my next appointment. I'll stop 317 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: by and make sure that they're okay. It's the power 318 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: of radio, and it is the power of this iHeart 319 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: Radio Ashville team. They are just such an incredible group 320 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: of humans. You know, Tank Spencer and I were here 321 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: for by ourselves for the first portion of the storm 322 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: because our team couldn't get here. I don't know if 323 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: you saw coming, well, you didn't see it. Community because 324 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: you came it from the air, but coming up our 325 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: driveways line, it was lined with about a hundred trees. 326 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: Every tree came down, there was no way to get 327 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: in or out. It crushed the fence in the front. 328 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: Once those trees got out of the way, our team 329 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: was unstoppable. They got in and they just they just 330 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: got it done. And they have continued to You know, 331 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: this is our home, this is our community, and we 332 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: we we want to just see it built back. We 333 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: know it's going to take time, and we know it's 334 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: going to be heavy lifting, but this is where we 335 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: call home and Western North Carolina mountain folks are different. 336 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: I got news for you. Mountain folks are tough, and 337 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: that we're we will really, we will rebuild this community. 338 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: It may not look exactly like it did, uh it'll 339 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: be better. That's that's the way I feel. And I 340 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: feel like our community is more united today than we 341 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: ever have been in the past because of this storm. 342 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: And if that's the good that we can pull out 343 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: of this, I'll take it all day long. 344 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 5: Mark, Thank you so much, incredible work. Appreciate you telling 345 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 5: us about this and everyone who can go and donate 346 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 5: and help out, please. 347 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: Do you know. 348 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 5: This past Monday, many of us took a moment to 349 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 5: reflect that it was the one year anniversary of the 350 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 5: Hamas terrorist attack on Israel, the worst massacre of the 351 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 5: Jewish people since the Holocaust, when the twelve hundred is 352 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 5: Raeli's lost their lives, dozens more injured, two hundred and 353 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 5: fifty hostage is taken. The conflict remains as intense as ever. 354 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: The IDF is working to rescue hostages and fight back 355 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: against Hesbela's daily barrage of missiles. Israel's allies need to 356 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 5: stand with her in this moment, and that is where 357 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 5: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews comes in. IFCJ 358 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: has been on the front lines to help, and right now, 359 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: your gift of one hundred and fifty dollars helps the 360 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 5: Fellowship provide food and necessities to the families of reservists 361 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 5: who have been called up to help them in this 362 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 5: time of need. 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We are 368 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 5: going to be diving into a controversy over at CBS 369 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 5: shortly where they had where one of the anchors had 370 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 5: the temerity to ask an author writing a book that 371 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 5: takes very very critical view of Israel have the temerity 372 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 5: to ask him questions on CBS's TV channel. So they're 373 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 5: now having struggle sessions over there, public crying all of it. 374 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 5: We will get into this coming up here momentarily. It's 375 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 5: pretty amazing. Look, on average, violent crime takes place every 376 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 5: twenty six second in this country, and how you choose 377 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 5: to protect yourself and your family is an important issue. 378 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: There are some very. 379 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 5: Good non lethal products available from Saber, which is spelled Sabre. 380 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 5: The website is Saber radio dot com. That's Saber radio 381 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 5: dot com. The pepper projectile launcher that Saber has is 382 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 5: the only sixty eight caliber launcher with a seven projectile capacity. 383 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: Look, if you have a home intruder, if you. 384 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 5: Want to use a non lethal solution to tackle a 385 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 5: threat against you and your family, you want multiple rounds, 386 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 5: You want a large pepper cloud. When those rounds impact 387 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 5: and that's what Saber gives you. I've trained with their tools. 388 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 5: I've used Saber products. Clay has two, We've got them 389 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 5: at home. Get some today. Go to Saber radio dot com. 390 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 5: That's Saber radio dot com or call eight four four 391 00:18:49,440 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 5: eight two four safe eight four four eight two four safe. 392 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: Tons of you just giving us so much feedback, I 393 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: want to think again. And if you didn't hear the 394 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: full thing, it'll be up on the podcast. We wanted 395 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: to share with you what the experience has been like 396 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: for people in Ashville and surrounding communities in western North Carolina, 397 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: eastern Tennessee. And Mark Starling, who was the host that 398 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: was on with us in the opening segment of this 399 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: hour from five to seventy AMWWNC. 400 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: Buck, You've talked about this a lot. 401 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: Radio uniquely connects with the audience. There are lots of 402 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 2: different medias, There are lots of different ways that people 403 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: make connections, writing, TV, a variety of different subjects, but 404 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: radio at its core really connects with people. And I 405 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: thought the stories that he was sharing in a time 406 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: of crisis here really connected with you in all fifty. 407 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 5: States and my family in Ashville at the height of 408 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 5: the storm and its destruction, or you know, in the 409 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 5: morning after it they were listening on that station. Carrie 410 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 5: told me before Clay I even knew you were going 411 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 5: to Ashville, said, you've got to talk to these guys. 412 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 5: The iHeart team in Ashville has just been all hands 413 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 5: on deck, not just to get information out, but also 414 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 5: to coordinate response. 415 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: And rescue efforts. 416 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 4: It's an amazing thing. 417 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 5: But yes, you can imagine for people who had their house, 418 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 5: you know, partially carved in by falling trees, surrounded by 419 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 5: lethal floodwaters on all sides, roads either washed away or 420 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 5: blocked by trees. To hear on on AM or FM radio, 421 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: we know you're out there, We're in your community. We're 422 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 5: coming for you. Hold tight. Help is on the way. 423 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 5: I think of how meaningful that is, and it was 424 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: the only way to get people that message, no doubt. 425 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: We want to continue to update you with everything going 426 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: on in the world of politics as well. I'm here 427 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 2: in Ashville. You heard, By the way, heartswith Hands is 428 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: a great organization local that you can donate to if 429 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: you were moved by the stories that you heard being 430 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: shared by Mark Starling and many others who are talking 431 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: to us outside and around the scenes here as as 432 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: I'm in Ashville. But I also wanted to not neglect 433 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: what's going on in the political realm right now. And 434 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: let's play this Buck. I don't know if you saw this. 435 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: You mentioned as we went to break just a second ago, 436 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: that obviously this week was the one year anniversary of 437 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: October seventh, and to how do you pronounce his name? 438 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: By the way, I've read it. 439 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: For tanahase Coats. 440 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: Tanahasei Coats is a left wing icon who basically believes 441 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: that America is awful and that racist. 442 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: You got you in the word racist. 443 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 5: In fact, the book is really just every sentence is 444 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: about how racist, really actually white people are. But America 445 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 5: is more broadly as well racist, racist, racist. 446 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: And so I heard this interview last night and I 447 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: just thought it was a perfect distillation of how awful 448 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: many of the people who argue that America is racist 449 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: truly are. 450 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: And this was him. Yeah. 451 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 5: Can I just add, because I think this important, Clay, 452 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 5: the left also believes that Israel is raist, racist, racist, 453 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 5: So that's where the connection is. Okay, we've already done 454 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 5: the trash America. It's all racist, all the white people 455 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 5: in America are racist. Israel the left also believes racist 456 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 5: and all the Israelis who first of all not I mean, 457 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 5: they're not even all white. 458 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 4: There's a whole other conversation, but. 459 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: They're all racist. 460 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: This is what many kids on college campuses are being taught. 461 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: Which is why I want to play this for you. 462 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: And this is why maybe is next month is Thanksgiving 463 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: and you've got grandson or granddaughter sitting at the table 464 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: and they're going to say, oh, Israel, you know they're 465 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: not a safe actor here. They deserve some of what 466 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: happened to them. This is the kind of arguments they're 467 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: hearing on campus. I want you to hear it. This 468 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: was a discussion about why this guy coach would have 469 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: potentially been one of the terrorists as well. Listen to 470 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: his rationale. This is cut one. 471 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 6: Well, I'm twenty years old, born into Gaza, which is 472 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 6: a giant open air jail. And what I mean by 473 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 6: that is, if my father is a fisherman and he 474 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 6: goes too far out into the sea, he might get 475 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 6: shot by somebody off of you know, side of Israeli botes. 476 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: If my mother picks the olive. 477 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: Trees and she gets too close to the wall, she 478 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 6: might be shot. If my little sister has you know, 479 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 6: cancer and she needs treatment because there are no you know, 480 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 6: facilities to do that in Gaza, and I don't get 481 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 6: the right permit, she might die. And I grow up 482 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 6: under that oppression and that poverty and the wall comes down? 483 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 6: Am I also strong enough? But even constructed in such 484 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 6: a way, why I say this is too far? 485 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 4: I don't know that I am buck. 486 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 2: If you ever think, hey, maybe I should kill somebody 487 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: because of their race, their ethnicity, or their religion, newsflash, 488 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: you are not the good guy. 489 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: But that's what many of these people believe. 490 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: Well this all also, I don't think we've we've addressed 491 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 5: play the the reason that this is getting, you know, 492 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 5: so much attention. 493 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 4: You you just played. 494 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: The most recent appearance by by mister Coates on this issue, 495 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 5: he was on the CBS Morning Show pushing his new book, 496 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 5: which I believe only a portion of deals with this 497 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 5: Only a portion of it deals with Israel Palestine. But 498 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 5: his position is very explicitly Israel is an apartheid state. 499 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 5: It is evil along the lines of South Africa or 500 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 5: even Nazi Germany, which is obviously very offensive to the 501 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 5: Jewish people. And the one of the anchors who I 502 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 5: had never heard of before, Tony something that is I 503 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 5: forget his last name, but Ducoppel Dakappel. He just basically said, 504 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 5: why did you leave out in your explanation of the 505 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 5: Palestinian plight? Why did you leave And I say, Tony, actually, 506 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 5: you know has done his research. He's like, why'd you 507 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 5: leave out the Second Intifada? Why didn't you not talk 508 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 5: about the fact that there was an effort in what 509 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 5: was otherwise peacetime, a long and sustained effort to send 510 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 5: as many Palestinian suicide bombers into civilian areas as possible 511 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 5: to kill people who were at birthday parties, the old, 512 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 5: the young, women, and children, to pay the families of 513 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 5: the suicide bombers, the Shahid the martyrs in perpetuity, to 514 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 5: hold up those families as the great heroes of the 515 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 5: Palestinian people. Not scientists, not athletes, not businessmen, suicide bombers, 516 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: the greatest, the greatest heroes of the Palestinian people in 517 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 5: the early two thousands, the suicide bombers and their families, 518 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 5: Why no talk of any of that? 519 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 4: And Clay the thing. 520 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: About tanahassikots Is. He's an icon of the left. He 521 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 5: is the demost celebrated black author of his generation. And 522 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 5: so the rules at CBS are you are not allowed 523 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 5: to ask him questions. You were allowed to clap and 524 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 5: tell him how brilliant he is. Those are the unspoken 525 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 5: rules of the Democrat Party. Those were broken by that 526 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: anchor at CBS. They have now brought in we're not 527 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 5: making any of this up. Diversity educators, struggle sessions, reports 528 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 5: about how people are crying in these meetings. 529 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: How dare he ask him any questions? I mean, this 530 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 4: is this is why the Democrat Party, the left is 531 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 4: so broken. It's a cult. This is insane, totally. 532 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: And they also have now sent out instructions at CBS 533 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: saying that they're not to say that Jerusalem is in Israel. 534 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't believe some of this stuff. I 535 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: had to go read it. I saw the headlines. CBS 536 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 2: News is broken and this we haven't spent a ton 537 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: of time talking about it, but the way they edited 538 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: the Kamala Harris sixty minutes interview buck When Dan Rather 539 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: got caught making up news about George W. Bush, they 540 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: fired him. They basically ended his career when they failed. 541 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: About the National Guard and all those stories. But really, 542 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: to me, this is far worse than that, because it 543 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: goes to the very essence of the organization itself and 544 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: whether it can be trusted. And so when you have 545 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: people out there arguing Jewish people are so bad that 546 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: basically anything you do to them can be justified, and 547 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: then you simultaneously have people like the guy who's fighting 548 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: back against the Madison Square Garden rally against Trump saying, oh, 549 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: this is like Nazis rallying in nineteen thirty seven and 550 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty nine, all these other things. I just want 551 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: to push back and say, you realize the left in 552 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: this country is the one arguing that any violence against 553 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: Jewish people can be justified based on their history, which 554 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: is the same argument that Adolf Hitler and the Nazis 555 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: were making. Now it's a left wing in the United 556 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: States argument. 557 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 5: I want to also point out that there's a fundamental 558 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 5: rejection of principle that the Allies the pro Palestinian pro 559 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 5: Hamas and by the way, people will they will bristle 560 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 5: when you say they're pro Hamas. Hamas is the government 561 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 5: of Gaza, the elected government of Gaza. So I don't 562 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 5: know in what universe there if there was, And credit 563 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 5: to Doug Murray for slamming this point home a few times. 564 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 5: If there was an election in the West Bank, Hamas 565 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 5: would win tomorrow. 566 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 4: Okay. 567 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 5: So Hamas are the chosen representatives of the Palestinian people 568 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 5: by the Palestinian people at this point, there's nothing else 569 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 5: that we could point to or even talk about. And 570 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 5: they explicitly endorse the murder of as many. 571 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: Jews as they can. And then those same people who 572 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 4: are saying. 573 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 5: Look at Israel, Israel overreacts, or Israel is going too far, 574 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 5: Israel's violating crimes of you know, they're saying they're committing 575 00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 5: war crimes, have nothing to say about Palestinians. Never, I mean, 576 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 5: on October seventh, I don't know what else you could 577 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 5: How could it be more evil than that? But this 578 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 5: is the way that Hamas has been fighting all along. 579 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: They just want to go and murder Jews and then 580 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 5: say that they are a resistance organization. They're not a 581 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 5: resistance organization that wants to negotiate. They just exist in 582 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 5: this world where the more Jews that they can kill, 583 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 5: the better. That is their only real mission. They've e 584 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 5: miserated the Palestinian people. They're absolutely corrupt and God bless 585 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 5: Netnyahu and the idea for hunting them down and killing 586 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 5: as many of them as he possibly can who are 587 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 5: involved in October seventh. That is just that is warfare 588 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 5: conducted the way that it should be. And the fact 589 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: that the Democrat Party has all this confusion on this issue, Clay, 590 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 5: what kind of lack of moral clarity is possible where 591 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: you could have on October seventh, Democrats, Kamala voters, let's 592 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 5: be honest about it, marching in support of Hamas and 593 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 5: Palestine or the Palestinians. 594 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: It's truly delusional, and that is the base of the 595 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: Democrat Party right now, which is why Kamala Harris didn't 596 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: pick I think he could die it in directly with 597 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: the presidential election in a few weeks. Why Josh Shapiro 598 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: is not the pick because people like Coats on the 599 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: left in the Democrat Party would have lost their minds 600 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: if they picked the Jewish guy after October seventh. 601 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 5: I think that's also a critical point, Clay, because if 602 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 5: they lose this election, and they lose it because of Pennsylvania, 603 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 5: it is the Democrat coddling of anti Semites that may 604 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 5: have cost in the election. I will say poetic justice 605 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 5: in that poetic it's. 606 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: Very calmically just if that ends up happening. I want 607 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: to tell you we're just talking about what happened at 608 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: Israel on October seventh. The impact of what happened with 609 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: the United States on nine to eleven continues. And think 610 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: the Lord that we have tunnel the towers out there 611 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: to help everybody with who is still fighting the battles 612 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: of terror and beyond. William Gilbert enlisted in the US 613 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: Army to become part of something much bigger than himself. 614 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 2: He loved the sense of brotherhood During his career. 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You remember that, Clay, I 633 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: remember that. 634 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 5: Yes, they should run with that, you know, they should 635 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 5: all wear green tights and the waltz ads and just 636 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 5: be like we're manly men and tights. There's a lot 637 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: of that going on. So we shall address the what 638 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 5: feel like panic moves of the Kamala campaign at this 639 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 5: point to try to get some traction, get something something going, 640 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 5: and so we're going to dive into that. I did 641 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 5: want to just go into this though for a second, 642 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 5: because I mentioned this. It's fascinating, Clay, because I've had 643 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 5: a particular amount of exposure to Democrats this week. As 644 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: you know, I'm going on the Bill Maher Show tonight 645 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 5: at guys, check for me what time that airs? Actually, 646 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 5: because I'm on West Coast time, I get confused. But 647 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 5: it will be live tonight, so it will be Bill, 648 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 5: Me and Laura Coates of CNN, and. 649 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 4: It'll be it'll be fun. It'll be fun. 650 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 1: You know. 651 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 5: I'm an invited guest, So of course I look forward 652 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 5: to being cordial but having a robust exchange of ideas. 653 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 5: But one of the things on the in the Democrat 654 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 5: news cycle, if you will, is this Bob Woodward book, 655 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 5: and there's stuff about Trump and how he like sent 656 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 5: a COVID test to Putin and isn't that such a 657 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 5: you know, early in the pandemic. 658 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: It is like. 659 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 5: But another thing is this whole belief that Trump and 660 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 5: Putin are having these phone calls like this, this uh, 661 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 5: you know, special romance, if you will, between Trump and Putin. 662 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, the former. 663 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 5: Prime Minister of the UK, Boris Johnson, just came out 664 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 5: and said this this was amazing play cut too. 665 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 7: Look, I happened to believe that when Donald Trump says 666 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 7: that had he been president in twenty twenty two, there 667 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 7: would have been no Russian invasion of Ukraine, My view 668 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 7: is that that is a credible assersion. 669 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: I really do think that's credible. 670 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 5: Can I just say, Clay, I also agree, as does 671 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 5: Trump and many people who voted for Trump. They try 672 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: to pretend like we shouldn't notice that the war started 673 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 5: on Biden's watch, not on Trump's watch, which if Trump 674 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 5: was the little toady for Putin, wouldn't it have been 675 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 5: the best time possible to invade when you know your 676 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 5: guy is gonna They have created this fantasy about Trump 677 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 5: and Russia and Trump Putin relations. And yet again, I mean, 678 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 5: here we are. Think of how many lives if that 679 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 5: is true, Think of how many lives would have been saved. 680 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 5: Think of how much money would have been saved. 681 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: Well, not only that, in this Woodward book, Biden evidently 682 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: blames Obama for Putin invading because he says the way 683 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: that he responded to crimea let basically Putin know that 684 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: there were no consequences for invasions. 685 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: And that is. 686 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 5: Entirely credible, by the way, and we could go into why, 687 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 5: but that is entirely credible that Obama actually was the 688 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 5: real invitation to the disaster. 689 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: And then that goes to what I've never heard anybody 690 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: be able to explain if Trump is such a Manchurian 691 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: candidate with Vladimir Putin and unwilling to stand up to him, 692 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 2: why did Putin not invade when Trump was in office. 693 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: Nobody has a good answer for that. I think the 694 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: answer is because he was afraid of how Trump would respond. 695 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 2: And ultimately, it is funny that in that Woodward book, 696 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: Biden is just lacerating Obama for his weakness and not 697 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: taking Putin seriously enough, which he says is the real 698 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 2: reason why the invasion of Ukraine happened. I would point 699 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 2: out that actually Biden's taking part of the wrong lesson there, 700 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: which is Putin learned from Obama that Biden was also 701 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 2: weak and knew Democrat would not do anything to actually 702 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 2: forestall his invasion, and he wasn't afraid. And bad guys 703 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: are motivated oftentimes by fear. They don't respond to moral 704 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: arguments or any of these things that the Democrat Party 705 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 2: wishes they did. 706 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 5: You know what a part of the masculine appeal of 707 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 5: Trump and the whole Trump movement is versus what we're 708 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 5: seeing with Kamala Harris. 709 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 4: They keep saying Trump coddles dictators. 710 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 5: If you tick off Trump, there is a very high 711 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 5: likelihood that he will react in a ferocious and courageous manner. 712 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 5: If you mess with Biden, you might interrupt naptime. 713 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 4: Hey, everyone can say this is the truth. 714 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 5: And with Kamala Harris you might get the most boring 715 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 5: lecture and be assaulted with the most worthless platitudes of 716 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 5: your entire life. 717 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 4: That stuff matters. 718 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 5: Actually, that goes into the calculations of things as powerful 719 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 5: as war and peace. 720 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 4: What's okay, let's get into it. More of this. 721 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 5: Uh the walls masculinity tour, Oh gosh, roar so much 722 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 5: masculinity like a lion.