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Speaker 1: from Coast to Coast. Now here's a highlight from Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast AM on iHeart Radio. Men in Black. They

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Speaker 1: have been considered to be government agents, extraterrestrial beings. They

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Speaker 1: seem to have no chemistry at all, no personality. What's

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Speaker 1: your take, Well, yeah, I mean that's a good point,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's important to note that certainly for

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Speaker 1: the general public. Um, you mentioned the Man in Black.

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Speaker 1: You know, they think of Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones.

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Speaker 1: You know, they think of the movie of the Men

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Speaker 1: in Black because they're the movies were so sort of

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Speaker 1: iconic and popular. People assume, even within euthology at times

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Speaker 1: that the men in black are government agents. Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't dispute that on occasion, government agents have gone out

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Speaker 1: to interview people about UFO encounters, and back in the

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Speaker 1: fifties and sixties the guys did wear sort of dark

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Speaker 1: suits and for doors. So a small percentage I think,

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Speaker 1: do fall into that category. But the overwhelming majority of

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Speaker 1: all the reports, if you look at the witness testimony,

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Speaker 1: they describe something very much different. And by that I

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Speaker 1: mean they talk about seeing these men in black as

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Speaker 1: looking very pale and gaunt, almost like emaciated, and they

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Speaker 1: have these oversized eyes sometimes which they hide behind wrap

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Speaker 1: around sunglasses. And people, you know, you would imagine late

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Speaker 1: at night, if you get a knock on the door

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Speaker 1: and you look through the spy hole and you see

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Speaker 1: these strange men in black the other side of the door,

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Speaker 1: you certainly wouldn't let them in. But the weird thing

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Speaker 1: is that people do let them in, and with hindsight,

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Speaker 1: they feel as if somehow they were sort of mind

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Speaker 1: controlled or hypnotized somehow to let them in the in

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Speaker 1: the house. And this angle of the sort of the

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Speaker 1: hypnosis or the mind control, coupled with how weird and

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Speaker 1: strange they look has given rise to the idea that

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Speaker 1: they're not entirely human, that are they alien, human hybrids?

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Speaker 1: Are they something paranormal or multidimensional? All we can say

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Speaker 1: for sure is that if you look at the overwhelming

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Speaker 1: majority of all the reports, they honestly do not come

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Speaker 1: across like, you know, they're working for some sort of

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Speaker 1: government agency. It's it's the story that many black is

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Speaker 1: far more HP Lovecraft that it is to the X Files.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's more of like a gothic Nightmari's type story. Now,

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Speaker 1: what do they generally want in your opinion, what are

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Speaker 1: they after? Well, primarily when you speak to the witnesses,

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Speaker 1: we get this angle where they threatened people and frighten them,

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Speaker 1: terrorized them into not talking about their UFO experiences. But

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Speaker 1: some researchers suspect that that may actually be kind of

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Speaker 1: a ruse. And I'll explain what I mean by that.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of cases where when the men

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Speaker 1: in black and the women in black and the black

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Speaker 1: the witness or the victim, they start to feel ill,

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Speaker 1: They start to feel weak. Something happens to them as

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Speaker 1: if they've got no energy and one of the suspicions

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Speaker 1: is that could these entities actually be if you lie,

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Speaker 1: literally draining as of our energy, someths like a supernatural

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Speaker 1: parasitic creature that feeds on the human life force and

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Speaker 1: human energy. Now that sounds controversial, which it certainly is,

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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of people who reported back

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Speaker 1: they could barely stand up to to you know, to

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Speaker 1: get to the door, to get away from them. As

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Speaker 1: others felt, you know, that as they had sort of

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Speaker 1: almost like a diabetic starts to crash, you know. And

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Speaker 1: and I have so many cases like that that it's

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Speaker 1: difficult to deny that possibility that we're dealing with something

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Speaker 1: that views us almost as as fuel or food almost.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had any reports of m ibs physically

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Speaker 1: hurting somebody? Um? What? That's an interesting question, George, because

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Speaker 1: actually the answers no, Um, it's the threat is always

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Speaker 1: sort of a verbal threat. There's an undertone there, right,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's there's definitely an undertone where people very

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Speaker 1: often keep these stories or these encounters with the men

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Speaker 1: for decades because they're still terrified that they're going to

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Speaker 1: come back, um and you know, and threaten them who

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Speaker 1: knows what next time. But although I'm not sort of

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Speaker 1: aware of any literally physical cases of people being harmed,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt that the inference is there that if

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Speaker 1: going to happen, and people do you know, they listen

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Speaker 1: and they you know, they keep this in their mind

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Speaker 1: for for years. I mean, for example, in the new

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Speaker 1: book The Black Diary, I've got several cases of people

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Speaker 1: who had experiences with the men in Black back in

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Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies and did not talk about these

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Speaker 1: experiences till, you know, sort of three or four years ago.

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Speaker 1: And it specifically was because of the fear and opening

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Speaker 1: the door again to what might be an even more

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Speaker 1: dangerous and threatening experience. Nick, let's let's talk about similarities

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Speaker 1: and parallels in terms of the people they visit. Are

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Speaker 1: most of the visitations done at a house, Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: are typically what happens that there will be a knock

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Speaker 1: on the door late at night. It's very rarely that

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Speaker 1: these encounters occurred during the day, although some of them do,

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Speaker 1: but they overwhelming majority. At night there's a knock on

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Speaker 1: the door, unlike anybody. You know, if you get a

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Speaker 1: knock on the door at say eleven o'clock at night,

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Speaker 1: you know, think who on earths that people go to

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Speaker 1: the door, they look through the spy hole. They see

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Speaker 1: kids or women in black standing there. And then that's

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Speaker 1: when things start to get weird, where they clearly, in

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Speaker 1: normal circumstances, none of us would open the door under

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Speaker 1: those circumstances, but they do. People feel as if their

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Speaker 1: mind is not theirs anymore. They can match. In some cases,

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Speaker 1: the witnesses have seen their hand going to the door

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Speaker 1: and not able to stop themselves from opening it. And

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Speaker 1: then very often there's like this little sudden blur where

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Speaker 1: they remember opening the door, and then the next thing

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Speaker 1: is that they're in the room staring at the person

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Speaker 1: that there's this sort of like a jump sometimes of

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Speaker 1: four or five seconds which they cannot recall um and

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Speaker 1: typically one person or one M I B I should

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Speaker 1: say issues the threat. You won't talk about this experience

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Speaker 1: you had, You won't talk about the UFO and councer,

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Speaker 1: you had forget about the abduction experience, things like that,

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Speaker 1: and all the time, while one of them is sort

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Speaker 1: other m IB or several are intensely, intensely staring at

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Speaker 1: the witness. And that's when this sort of sense almost

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Speaker 1: like they burned their eyes through them or something. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: And that's when this sort of angle other people feeling

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Speaker 1: that's when that kicks in. And the final stage, which

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Speaker 1: in a number of cases, and actually a growing number

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Speaker 1: of cases, when people have been in close proximity to

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Speaker 1: the men in black in their home, within days and

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Speaker 1: in some cases within hours, they fall and sick with

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Speaker 1: diseases and illnesses. In some fashion, they've been sort of

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Speaker 1: supernaturally infected. So you put all those angles together, and

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with something that is far beyond you know,

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Speaker 1: government agents or something like that. It's much more mysterious

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Speaker 1: than that. Are these diseases are curable or or what happens?

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Speaker 1: How long do they linger? Oh? Yeah, I mean there's um,

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Speaker 1: there's some cases I've got where people literally within days

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Speaker 1: went down with sort of very kind of exotic and

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Speaker 1: rare diseases, and other cases, you know, it's like going

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Speaker 1: down with a with a severe virus, and you know,

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Speaker 1: raised temperature but dangerously raised raised temperature and things like that,

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Speaker 1: which for the most part, you know, they've all been treatable.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if it was just one or two

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Speaker 1: cases where this happened after the encounter, you you just

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Speaker 1: put it down to coincidence. But there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of reports like that, so many now where you know,

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Speaker 1: there is this parallel between them entering the house and

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Speaker 1: then the person falling sick um and there's also sort

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Speaker 1: of residual energy. And what I mean by that is

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Speaker 1: that a number of people reported how after the men

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Speaker 1: in Black have gone for a day or two, the

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Speaker 1: sort of a strange atmosphere in the family home, as

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Speaker 1: if there's some sort of residue left behind. And people

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Speaker 1: have described things like primarily things like polit geist activity

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Speaker 1: where something will sort of violently move across the table,

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Speaker 1: a book on a table, things like that, and as if,

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Speaker 1: like I said, as if some some essence of the

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Speaker 1: men in Black has been left behind and It gradually

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Speaker 1: fades away, but for the first few days it's sort

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Speaker 1: of present and causing chaos, even though the men in

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