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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, Oh my goodness, gracious, just let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: More stuff coming out now as even talk Rob g

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Speaker 3: that maybe there's something could happen here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir Olie Connelly from The Guardian. If you don't

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Speaker 4: know who that is, you should know because we talked

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Speaker 4: about it on this show. He had Bill Belichick to

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Speaker 4: North Carolina a full week bit before anybody else did.

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Speaker 5: My man is if he's.

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Speaker 4: Not plugged it everywhere, he's definitely plugged in in this

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Speaker 4: situation with Bill Belichick with North Carolina. He reported about

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Speaker 4: one and two hours ago, this is I want to

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Speaker 4: read this verbatim because this is some gnarly information courtin

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Speaker 4: of sources, Belichick has discussed buy out options with North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: He's signaled a willingness to trigger his own one million

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Speaker 4: dollar buyout if he can find a soft landing with

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Speaker 4: either another team or in the media. But it gets worse, guys,

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Speaker 4: members of Milichick. Of Belichick's coaching staff have already spoken

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Speaker 4: to other schools that are expected to be in the

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Speaker 4: playoff hunt about taking on roles during the postseason. Courting

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Speaker 4: to one anonymous coach quote, the rats are leaving the ship.

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Speaker 4: Some staffers believe the change will come within two weeks.

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Speaker 4: There's also been reports of serious recruiting violations that are

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Speaker 4: currently under investigation at UNC. Recruiting and practice violations have

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Speaker 4: already been proven by the school, according to multiple sources.

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Speaker 5: And here's another one.

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Speaker 4: Belichick's communication with this staff in the past two weeks

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Speaker 4: has been described as quote weird and distant by multiple

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Speaker 4: members of the current coaching staff. Multiple coaches were actually

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Speaker 4: unable to get a hold of him during their recent

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Speaker 4: bye week. One UNC defensive assistant said, quote, what we've

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Speaker 4: done to these kids is fed up.

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Speaker 3: My goodness. I said this, and you could go look

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Speaker 3: it up on YouTube. Seriously, that this was gonna end

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Speaker 3: badly and that this was a mistake from Jump. I

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Speaker 3: was never with it, and then even yesterday I said

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Speaker 3: that they should move on from him because there's no

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Speaker 3: long term plan here. This is a terrible car wreck.

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Speaker 3: We knew that was happening. We knew with the nepotism

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Speaker 3: and the cronyism and the girlfriend in the mix, and

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Speaker 3: a seventy three year old coach trying to coach college

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Speaker 3: kids and North Carolina not being a football school getting

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Speaker 3: your butts kicked up and down the field. Right, it's

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Speaker 3: just been a total disaster. I don't know how at

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Speaker 3: never bought into it. I'm not surprised. And they should

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Speaker 3: come to some sort of agreement so that Bill Belichick

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Speaker 3: can get on, you know, with going to Denny's and

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Speaker 3: be cool, I'm not with it.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, you know, I call him unc.

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Speaker 1: North Carolina is now just unk, because that's what I'm

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Speaker 5: We knew this was never gonna work.

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Speaker 1: Me and you talked about it from beginning, what was

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Speaker 5: And ultimately here we are with his decline, And to me, this.

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Speaker 1: Was just UNC was used as a rebound Bill Billimachick

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Speaker 5: He's a handful of games away from that.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to obviously prove that I could be a

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Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. That's why it's called a program.

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Speaker 1: And the idea of he could just march on up

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Speaker 5: You're doing it.

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Speaker 1: Mind you, you're doing a book tour. Mice, you're doing

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Speaker 1: And ultimately, the kids, because you got you know what,

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Speaker 5: Changed the way. They're gonna go all of that for it.

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Speaker 1: It's something that's gonna end badly, and we're hearing all

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Speaker 1: a bad idea from the jump. Never bought into it.

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Speaker 1: And no offense, no agism. He's seventy three, college is approached.

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Speaker 5: He's the oldest coach in college.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just takes time and signs just something

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Speaker 5: He's not locked into it.

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Speaker 1: So that and most importantly, he completely changed his ideology

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Speaker 1: they're defensive rankings. What was Bill Belichick known for defense?

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Speaker 1: You know, if you know what UNC is rank rob

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Speaker 1: So you look it up offensively one hundred and twenty third,

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Speaker 1: and that's what's disappointing as well.

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Speaker 4: Jeremy fowlery Dan grazy On do their weekly buzz calling

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Speaker 4: for ESPN, and this week they one of the questions

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Speaker 4: big extension. You'll get extensions throughout the season, usually before

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Speaker 4: the trade deadline is when we get the last of

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Speaker 4: the of the calendar year, and Fowler says, well, first

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Speaker 4: eight and Hutchinson is probably the most likely.

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Speaker 5: Now that makes sense. Yeah, he's healthy this year to

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Speaker 5: do them. Well, sure that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: It's their guy that they drafted, right, So I get

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Speaker 3: all that, and then the very next sentence he says,

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Speaker 4: the Colts would do something with Jones in season. This

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Speaker 4: around the league have been very impressed by Indiana Jones

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Speaker 5: Don't do it, do it, don't do it.

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Speaker 3: Do not sign Daniel Jones off of premature, way too

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Speaker 5: Start to the season. We've seen this before.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the New York Football Giants picked Daniel

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Speaker 3: You remember that, Oh he's arrived, he won a playoff game,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sign Saquon, We'll sign Daniel Jones. And

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Speaker 3: they realized they made a mistake right away. Dude, what

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Speaker 5: Really, don't do that.

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Speaker 3: Don't do it, Daniel Jones. No, can I give you

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Speaker 3: old TV reference. I'd rather have Barnaby Jones than Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jones and he's dead. No, do not do it, don't

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Speaker 3: fall forward, don't go for the okie doke.

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Speaker 5: This is smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 3: Something's fishy here because they're not playing any good teams.

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Speaker 5: Daniel Jones has plenty of tape and it never went

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Speaker 3: quarterback he is. Don't fool yourself and I know what

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Speaker 3: you're saying. Well, Baker maybe will win somewhere else. And

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Speaker 3: then it turned out to be great for every Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 3: There's a Geno Smith, a justin Field. There's a pluthorah

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Speaker 3: of quarterbacks who moved to other places and things didn't

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Speaker 5: It's just a change of scene to read.

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Speaker 3: And they got a better offensive coordinator and they had

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Speaker 3: more weapons and that's all Daniel Jones needed. And once

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Speaker 3: he left the Giants and he wan to be this guy. No,

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Speaker 1: I've seen you at Ross. I know how you get busy.

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Speaker 5: He would fit around some guys.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you got your to us getting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but those are people that you drafted, and you

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Speaker 5: You didn't draft. It's not this same.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe in them, is what I'm trying to sell.

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Speaker 1: But when you get a guy like you, like I

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Speaker 5: I'm not touching Daniel Jones with a ten football.

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Speaker 1: Rob z So Cardinals. We were talking about the play

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Speaker 5: That's right now.

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Speaker 4: Which is just a bonup, so it was already he

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Speaker 5: You, it would be a problem. Yep, stop with this.

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Speaker 3: Every time somebody don't want to get yoked up, it's

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Speaker 5: We don't do the same things we used to do.

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Speaker 2: Did it?

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Speaker 5: Never never caught coach again? And all that.

436
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Speaker 1: So I bring up those instances to say, I understand

437
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: back in the day things happen, this is how it was.

438
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: But to me, you can't put yourself in a position again.

439
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: Where now if Demcardo reacts what it Rob G said.

440
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 1: If you look at the video, he's emotional. He's got

441
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Speaker 1: like a lineman consoling them. I'm going through it. I'm embarrassed,

442
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm upset, I'm frustrated myself. I feel guilty, I'm shameful.

443
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: And you come over here and make matters worse, and

444
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: then you put your hands on me. What if I

445
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,719
Speaker 1: swing on you now, just as I'm already in that

446
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,439
Speaker 1: bad emotional state, Now you come put your head all

447
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: in my chest, swing on me like that, and now

448
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: I punch just out of natural reaction. Now I'm the

449
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: bad guy. Now maybe the league comes down on me.

450
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: The league would come down on now as two game,

451
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Speaker 1: three games, four games, to spend whatever it would be.

452
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think coaches have to be

453
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: you have to be the bigger person. You have to say,

454
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: all right, he's already going through it. The play already happened.

455
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 1: There's still game left. I see a lineman trying to

456
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Speaker 1: work with him, console him, talk to him, you know,

457
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: coach him up, teach him up. Let me let that

458
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Speaker 1: moment be because when you start getting physical again, you

459
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Speaker 1: open the door for a response. People always say this,

460
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Speaker 1: you'll see this happen. Man, Why he pushed him. All

461
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: he did was slap him. Well you can if you

462
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: slap me and then not tell me how to then respond.

463
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: If I slap somebody, they very well may punch me.

464
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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying you The coach now opens

465
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Speaker 1: the door for a response from the mercado. That could

466
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Speaker 1: have went bad. Now they over here rumbling on the sideline,

467
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Speaker 1: So be upset, hit him on the shoulder pads or something.

468
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Speaker 1: Come on, baby, stay in the game. Come on, baby.

469
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Speaker 1: I understand that's smacking the butt, that's part of the game.

470
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Speaker 1: We all know that. But once you start coming over

471
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Speaker 1: you let me barking at me and you hit me

472
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Speaker 1: though too. I just it's just it can lead to

473
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Speaker 1: something bad.

474
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Speaker 5: It should it shouldn't be physical, right.

475
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Speaker 1: I think we all come to those too, many great

476
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Speaker 1: coaches who had successful without it. Tony Dungee very successful coach.

477
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Speaker 1: He didn't have to be going him and up players

478
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Speaker 1: punching on you know, hitting on players.

479
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Speaker 3: Coach Kate was hitting people. Know what I'm saying, No,

480
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Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. One of the abod That's what

481
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm trying to say, like that is not

482
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Speaker 3: the only way to do it. Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey,

483
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Speaker 3: I don't know what they got going on. It's like

484
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Speaker 3: they can't get fired up to their chest bump. He's like, man,

485
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: look at him. He looked like he ate good to that.

486
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Speaker 3: Let me go run into him and jump on his

487
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 3: belly real quick. I don't know what they got. It's

488
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Speaker 3: like they gotta they can't get fired up till they

489
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 3: yell at each other.

490
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I just you could absolutely coach me up,

491
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: yell at me, cuss me out, bark at me. You

492
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Speaker 1: don't have to get physical because my last point on

493
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Speaker 1: this to rop, hey, man, you don't know what people

494
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Speaker 1: have been through, meaning their triggers and their trauma and

495
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Speaker 1: hands raised up to people all you know what I mean,

496
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Speaker 1: Like I'm about to swing up man people.

497
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Speaker 5: You don't know where people are from.

498
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Speaker 1: What they've been through, and maybe with abuses, you don't

499
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: just raise up your hand and swing.

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Speaker 5: On anybody grown man let it on the kid.

501
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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, because you don't know where they've

502
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Speaker 1: been and what triggers them and Tiger, you might get

503
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Speaker 1: Tiger up a cut real quick.

504
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Speaker 5: Dou can rob? Are you can rob? Gu Where are

505
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 5: you on this?

506
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Speaker 3: Because we were pretty much in lockstep that the physical

507
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: part just does not work and and uh, players can't

508
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: do it, So why would you allow coaches? I think

509
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: the team had no choice. To be honest.

510
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 5: I only got.

511
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Speaker 4: One word for y'all, to quote the late great Kobe Bryant. Soft,

512
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 4: y'all are soft? You know damn well? This happens three

513
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 4: times a week in the NFL. Where never the head

514
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 4: coach because usually the head coaches like the CEO.

515
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 5: He's off to the side.

516
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 4: There is a defensive line coach, there is a offensive

517
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Speaker 4: line coach.

518
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Speaker 5: Jerry, show me that stop it, Rob, it doesn't happen.

519
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 5: Show me video of somebody being hit by I can't

520
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 5: record the sidelines.

521
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 4: The only reason that they did in this case because

522
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 4: Dean Marcado made the dumbest possible play you could in

523
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Speaker 4: a professional.

524
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 5: Football Patriots got video of sidelines. They stopped that. They

525
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 5: stopped it.

526
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Speaker 4: Everybody who has played sports beyond eighth grade has had

527
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Speaker 4: a situation You.

528
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 5: Fries.

529
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say roughed up like a burger and fries,

530
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 4: but yes, I've been smacked in the back of the helmet.

531
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Speaker 4: I have been punched in the chest on wearing pads.

532
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: Of course, the worst one, which doesn't sound bad until

533
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: you've actually had to happen, is getting hit with the

534
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 4: whistle while you're wearing a helmet, because it vibrates throughout

535
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 4: your ears and it gives you like a headache. Yes,

536
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 4: this happens in sports everywhere. It is not personal. I

537
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: don't give a damn about your trauma. If you're a

538
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 4: professional athlete, you are here to do a job. You

539
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 4: are here to help our team win, and what you

540
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: did was selfish. And if you weren't embarrassed enough by

541
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 4: what you did, I'm gonna make sure you know how

542
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 4: upset I am because you cost us the game. De mercado,

543
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 4: And I don't care that you're crying to the left

544
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 4: tackle because you're the guy who had to show ball

545
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: on his way into the end zone. I am not

546
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 4: a buset coach knocked out the fact that you are

547
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: trying to.

548
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 5: Head coaches toothless.

549
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 4: Why is it that Jonathan Gannon is getting more of

550
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: a punishment than De Marcato?

551
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: With great question, I'll answer that because you know where

552
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: players happened on the field, good or bad. That's the

553
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: what I do. I'm the player. I make the plays.

554
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: It happens. You, coach, you don't get physical. Do you

555
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: have pads on? Do you have a helmet? Do you

556
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: come through every night with the pains of the ages

557
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: that we do? How many times are you and I

558
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: talk about every NFL player we know. Fingers are twisted,

559
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: going that way, walk with a limp, back is broken,

560
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: They've gone through it. I'm out here, blessed and tears.

561
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: Made a stupid mistake. Cuts me out, find me. You

562
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: can find me. Hey, how they of the game?

563
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 5: Yo were finding you? Twenty five thousand be working on turnovers.

564
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: I watched this the first when he came over you

565
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: because it's back is turn you can but you can

566
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: see he kind of hit him.

567
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 5: All right, all right, coach? Got it?

568
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: You hit me yelling at me, you barking to me,

569
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: that last little extra hit. Don't get your last little

570
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: extra hit on me. I'm a grown man.

571
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: I don't even if he would rather have been whatever,

572
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: slapped in the arm like he was, or cut.

573
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: Tell me, I mean that, but that's no because you

574
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: took away my livelihood.

575
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: Those are.

576
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Speaker 1: You have a fourth string running back making error like

577
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: that and guess what, guess what a guess what, guess

578
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: what a possible response is getting cut?

579
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 5: That's part of the game.

580
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: Told him that, told Rob that when when they cut

581
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: the Jets cut the kickoff return?

582
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 5: Who two of them? Two of them?

583
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: That's just part of the game. Four stream running back

584
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: you do, that's a part of the game. Guess was

585
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: not part of the game.

586
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 5: And you want to say, hey, you can't play here.

587
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 5: That's a part of the game. I get that cut

588
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 5: release side copping people around and beating people up.

589
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: It's just funny that they're all up in arms about

590
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 4: what happened with Gann and everything like that. Like you

591
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 4: mentioned Kelvin, like we did not see Travis Kelce do

592
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: the exact same thing in reverse, Andy Reid. Did anybody

593
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: say we need to find Travis Kelce one hundred thousand dollars?

594
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 4: How dare he get in Andy Reech's personal mace? No,

595
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 4: they said he got fired up, he was out of line.

596
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: I'm sure they talked about it later.

597
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 5: It is what it is.

598
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: Well, here's why though they have rapport that they literally

599
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 1: have done this for years now.

600
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: This was what black and white situation where you can

601
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: put hands on me.

602
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: This is what they do and they chest bump and

603
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: they getting each other's face and chest bump. I said,

604
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: your first little slap, coach, all right, I get it.

605
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: You punched me in you know, a little come on,

606
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: hit me in the chest.

607
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 5: Cool.

608
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: I understand it. That second slap you was getting too much.

609
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: You was getting off a little too much on that

610
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: second slap. Now I mess around, slapped you in the

611
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: back of your head when you walked away. Now I'm

612
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: looking bad now I got the anger issues. Why the

613
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: slapped the coach?

614
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 5: Let me fired. I'm about to slap rob d when

615
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 5: we get to break here, all right?

616
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, Did you have

617
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: a problem with the Cardinals finding their head coach for

618
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: putting hands on a play?

619
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Speaker 1: And I just wonder, just upon a thousand, there's a

620
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: lot of money. I wonder if there's like more of

621
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: a history, cause one hundred th was in this. That

622
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: ain't no trump change for coach,