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Speaker 1: Welcome to and that's what you were in this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hi Kevin, Hi Jenna. How's it going.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: How's New York?

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 1: I'm so jealous, so good.

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Speaker 2: I still can't believe I'm here.

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Speaker 1: You're doing it your New York dreams in a theater

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Speaker 2: We were in different productions of Spelling Bee or was

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Speaker 1: No, it's spelling be Wow. Really yeah, So.

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Speaker 2: Who would you want to be in Spelling Being? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I would like to see you do both, gunning for

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Speaker 2: Greece two came out June eleventh, nineteen eighty two, four years.

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Speaker 1: Later to the Day of Greek Almost did the Day

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Speaker 1: Michelle Pfeiffer was so cool. I mean, that does unchanged

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Speaker 2: Oh I know, and none of them, not a single song,

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Speaker 2: And like Birch had ideas, like for she was hoping

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Speaker 1: movie opens with the big back to School number, and

438
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: the cast recalled the choreography as grueling but joyous for

439
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: the week of rehearsal.

440
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. The bowling alley scene for Score Tonight was

441
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: a highlight, but also a hazard. The sub three floors

442
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: caused several injuries, and Fifer had to hide a black

443
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 2: eye behind sunglasses were falling off a dock between shoot days.

444
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well and then also Fifer's ladder climbing

445
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: became obviously iconic. It's like the thing we all talk about, right,

446
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: but she later admitted she was mortified at first. I thought, really,

447
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: you want me to get up on a gyrate on

448
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: a ladder? But I trusted Pat and honestly best part

449
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: of the day.

450
00:24:54,600 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, cool rider. I thought Homeboy died. George and

451
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: I were like, wait, did he die? I'm like, there's

452
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: still twenty five minutes after this movie. Did he just die? Like,

453
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: no explanation. They didn't even show the cliff how it

454
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: was shot, like you couldn't even sty like, oh, it's

455
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: it's really far down there, Like what are you looking at?

456
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: Because we're not we're not getting a view of it.

457
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: The Rock of.

458
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: Hula No no, no, no, no, no.

459
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: Wrong, for so many reasons, was filmed. It was freezing

460
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: out and the cast shivered through tropical costumes and joked

461
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: that their smiles froze midtake. Yea believing Newton John came

462
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: and visited set during that.

463
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's cute. Yeah, okay, So the critics weren't kind

464
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Kevin Yeah. New York Times called it dizzy and slight.

465
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Variety praised the inventive choreography but said it lacked the

466
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: magic of the first Yes, that's correct, and Ebert said

467
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: it recycled Grease without the stars, without the energy, without

468
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: the freshness.

469
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

470
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: Even co creator Jim Jacobs called it awful. The pits,

471
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: but Fifer earned ray reviews and Fifer was great.

472
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's taking away. Yeah, I don't think there was

473
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 2: any problem with anybody's performance, Like, I think everyone was great.

474
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: No, no, for sure, everybody was really great.

475
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think it was just sort of like

476
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: the behind the scenes, yeah, whether Yeah, like everyone showed

477
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: up and was doing it and doing a great job.

478
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: No, for sure, and also like it obviously didn't it

479
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: wasn't well received, but midnight screenings being popping up, so

480
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: we're seeing that rocky horror vibe of like the cults

481
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: picking it up, the groups kind of appreciating it in

482
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: the way that they did, and obviously new generations kept

483
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: discovering it through VHS and cable and shioming like us,

484
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: and it's a cold classic to this day.

485
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's one of those things where cold

486
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: classic a lot of time means not good, flop flop. Yeah.

487
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: I had never seen this before. Oh wow, I thought

488
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: I had. I was like, surely I've seen.

489
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: This, okay, And what was your feeling going into it

490
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: versus when you started watching it?

491
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think most of my life I had heard

492
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: that it was really bad and like, you know, there's

493
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: always jokes about it. Yeah, and then someone told me

494
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: recently they're like they're like, we talked about Greece too,

495
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: I don't remember before we started doing this version of

496
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: the podcast. Yeah, and they told me, like, you know what,

497
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: it's really actually good, Like I think it's just as good,

498
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: in some parts better than the original stop. And I'm

499
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: thinking now, either one that person is insane or two

500
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: they haven't seen it since they were a kid, because

501
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: they probably thought it was great.

502
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: As a kid. Fair Enough, it's hard.

503
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: I think I understand. You know that because of the

504
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: success of the first one, you get a big check

505
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: to make another one, and you want to do it,

506
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: and you want it to be bigger and better, and

507
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: sometimes or a lot of times, less is more. The

508
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: first one was really simple and just had incredible music.

509
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like I don't like poo pooing on

510
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: art like people are gonna love it and whatever. It

511
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: just wasn't for me, Like I my memory should have

512
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: stayed in my memory the way it stayed, because now

513
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm sad that it's not what I remembered of Greece too.

514
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: Look, if you love this movie and have a great

515
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: time watching it, that is great. But I think watching

516
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: this back to back, as we've done with Greece and

517
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: the rest, I think they're just not of the same universe.

518
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: This feels like a TV movie, and Greece feels like

519
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: it is. Had been the biggest grossing musical movie until

520
00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: a year ago.

521
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: It's it's also I think, in my opinion, way too long.

522
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like some of those shots at the end,

523
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, you could snipping away at this cut cut cut.

524
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it moved slow. I think that was also.

525
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't just long, it moved like the pace was wrong.

526
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: You know.

527
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: We talked about with Grease one, there's so much happens

528
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: in it, but every single scene there was like rising tension,

529
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: there were stakes in every single scene.

530
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: Yep.

531
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: With this, it was like a lot of just chilling.

532
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: I feel it got out.

533
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: Let's draw it out.

534
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: It's so strange.

535
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: I know. It's also when your lead character is written

536
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: or maybe interpreted the way that Maxwell did it like

537
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: very calm, like when your lead is Tribalta and you

538
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: got that energy driving it, whereas you have this like

539
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: very timid guy kind of like whispering.

540
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: Well, it was like it was like gender reversal of

541
00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: the first.

542
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: Movie, right of course, which I don't mind him trying

543
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: to having to change himself for her, but like I

544
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: don't think it worked, and it just it feel like

545
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: a totally different movie to me, Like it wasn't great.

546
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: The reason also, like we got with the with the

547
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: first one Eliving Newton John was with the Pink Ladies

548
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: for almost all of that movie. Either she's being made

549
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: fun of or she's hanging out with she's around the

550
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: girls that she eventually sort of becomes He's never He

551
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: just all of a sudden becomes like a biker guy,

552
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: and we don't have like if he was integrated into

553
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: the Tea Birds, that would be something I know that

554
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: would be more similar, but like that never happened. So

555
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: he's like sort of on his own island the entire movie.

556
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: And then it's like, Okay, he comes back and there's

557
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: two biker gangs and then there's him as a third

558
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: thing that nobody.

559
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: And the additional biker ganging like enemy like outside of

560
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: the groups versus like the rivalry withinside the groups. Like

561
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: also just kind of like took me out of it.

562
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: It didn't remind me of stand Loot a little bit.

563
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Stand Lot is a perfect movie.

564
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: No, I don't touch it. Perfect.

565
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: Also, if you're going to bring back Frenchie, you have

566
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: d D. Khan are more. Yeah, make her the stars movie.

567
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: She would have been. She was the star of Last One, Yes,

568
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: she was.

569
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: She is so good. Don't just Yeah, that's what worries

570
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: me about. Honestly, it worries me about like a Glee reyboot.

571
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: Oh. It worries me every.

572
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: Day because I think it could fall easily into the

573
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: trap of.

574
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Grease too, Oh, don't say that, or you don't

575
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: have the magic because you think you need to either

576
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: bring in some of these old stars as opposed to

577
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: just creating a really good story of new people.

578
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I will say if there was a Grease

579
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: Too in Glee, cool Writer definitely would have been a

580
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: number that like Santana and Rachel would have fought over

581
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: and there would have been a sing off and that

582
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: would have been great. And then Girl for All Seasons

583
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: actually with some of the gals would have been really fun.

584
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: I thought Girl for All Seasons was one of the best,

585
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: one of the best moments of this movie. As horrible

586
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: like as reproduction is, I thought that was pretty funny

587
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, had some of the spirit that we

588
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: were looking for that we needed.

589
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I also think that Rocca Luau or whatever it

590
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: is and We'll Be Together, it was like, let's just

591
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: think of something to recreate exactly what we made in Greece,

592
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: wand and recreate it again, yeah, and not as good

593
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: but worse. Yeah, Like why are we trying to like

594
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: touch something that's so perfect and like recreate that and

595
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: versus creating something new. It was like just a carbon

596
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: copy but worse. I actually don't hate the song do

597
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: it for our country. I hate the premise of it

598
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: and the circumstances and how they did it, but the

599
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: actual song is like it is also very sticky for me,

600
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Like it's it, I remember it. I was singing it

601
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: this morning.

602
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is one of the better songs.

603
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: But like, I haven't ever listened to these songs outside

604
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: of watching the movie last night, and that's my association

605
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: with it. So like I also think, look, to be fair,

606
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: I haven't had the time with all of this like

607
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 2: I did with Greece. I knew that music in and

608
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: out and I sent it back and I know that

609
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: movie so well.

610
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: So but I will say, Kevin, here's my devil's advocate.

611
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: Generally speaking, in this podcast, what happens is usually we

612
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: start and we don't wear iffy about it and we

613
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: don't really like it, and then we turn into like, oh,

614
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't that bad. I don't hate that much.

615
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: This is not happening. No, there's no turn of events here.

616
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: No, it's just not so it's not. I get it

617
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: as a cult classic. I get it as like screenings.

618
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: I get it like I.

619
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: Don't have time for that though.

620
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: No, I'm not someone who likes bad that.

621
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry.

622
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: It's not like our friend Kelly probably loves this.

623
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: Ah, delly, Yes, I think I feel like I watched

624
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: this with Kelly at.

625
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: Well likes he can really just appreciate it for what

626
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: it is.

627
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we love that.

628
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that it exists for people.

629
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: I wish I had that skill me too.

630
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: I certainly did that trait. Do you think people thought

631
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: this movie was because of the gender reversal, like this

632
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: was supposed to be like a feminist tale. Oh, because

633
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: it certainly feels the opposite to me, because like she

634
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: doesn't even know who's under the helmet, and she's just.

635
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't. I don't even think it got

636
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: that deep. Like I don't even think we got there.

637
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, Yeah, I just I'm just

638
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: thinking about it, like it borders more on like some

639
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: of these numbers, like oh, this is a bit more

640
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: Rocky Horror, but Rocky Horror was like properly camp and

641
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: like Rocky Horror.

642
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: Yes, was true to who it was, and it was

643
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: you knew exactly what it was.

644
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: Like, Greece doesn't feel that if it was trying to

645
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: be camp, I don't think it accomplished it.

646
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I actually don't think it was trying

647
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: to be.

648
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: And also like something about Greece ion. I was having

649
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: a discussion last night with Austin and Georgie about this

650
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: because we're like, like grease won are they in on it?

651
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: But I don't even think so. I don't think there's

652
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: anything to be in on. I think they're just like,

653
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: it's deadly serious.

654
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: It is, but it happens to be funny, and this

655
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: is like just not funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this feels like they're self aware. Yeah, in a

657
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Speaker 2: way that is not.

658
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Its failed. It failed. Yeah, Okay, well I think that's enough.

659
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Let's create some performances. Let's just do some of the

660
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: ones we like, Let's do highlights, let's do let's leave

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00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: on a positive note. So cool writer. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: give it a B plus because in my memory it

663
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: was an A and it was a C. So I'm

664
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Speaker 1: giving in an.

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Speaker 2: Average I'm going to need to be minus.

666
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: Okay, reproduction was an f I'm giving reproduction a b okay,

667
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: do it for our country and that all the circumstances

668
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: aside the song itself.

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Speaker 2: But this is creating the performance.

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00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, what about the Sorry Girl for All Seasons

671
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: and b okay, that's it.

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00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: We'll be together. Also was so crazy, I really will

673
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: be together. We go together, and we're gonna do it

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00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: slower a.

675
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: Carbon copy, just like Okay, TARTI takes au cheese. I mean,

676
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: I mean, they were so really creepy. And also, wait,

677
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: miss Mason, can we talk about how inappropriate that was?

678
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: What was happening with Miss Mason?

679
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

680
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: I was also like such a one dimensional character.

681
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I don't know Johnny

682
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: and just like all the girls and like it just

683
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: was like it's just like a.

684
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: Cesspool of I thought the first one had some moments.

685
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: The first one is completely fine compared to this.

686
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, Best song Girl for All Seasons? Yeah,

687
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: I think so, Best Stand Smooth. I mean, look, the

688
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: choreography in this movie is amazing. There's just like too

689
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: much of it. Yeah, it's also just not trot well,

690
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: and so it's just a lot of things like don't

691
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: lend itself to the choreogra.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I guess maybe back to school again. Sure,

693
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: I did think and girl for all seasons. There was

694
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 2: one of the seasons the girls were like really one

695
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: point and one of them you can tell us like training.

696
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, yeah, some point.

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00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: Prop.

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00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if this counts, but shout out to

699
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: that little tire track on that little hump that it

700
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: is supposed to make us all believe that he either

701
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: died or went across this great divide that we've.

702
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: Never seen and he landed. If the Russians can put

703
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: him in in space, just imagine our young American minds

704
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: can do it right out.

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00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did enjoy that. I did really like Paulette. Yeah,

706
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: I like you a lot. She was original, Yes, yeah,

707
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: I thought she was a standout character and I liked her.

708
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

709
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: Thing at the end, she's I may not be the

710
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: classiest chick in the school, but I'm the best you're

711
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: ever going to get, So take it. Believe it like

712
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: she I really liked her. And that's the thing with

713
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: the first one, all all the characters were like super

714
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: strong characters. They know exactly who they are. Yeah, even

715
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: like French, who's trying to figure it out, she's telling

716
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: you who she is, like.

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00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we don't. We don't really know or care

718
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: about any of these No, they just feel like again

719
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: like trying.

720
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 2: It feels like everyone just did of her a check.

721
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens, It happens. Listen, I'm not too good

722
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: for a check. Yeah, performance MVP Michelle Fire for of

723
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: course she's just like I mean, I thought.

724
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: Michelle Fifer, Maxwell call Field and Adrian Zamed were.

725
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, okay, that's the thing.

726
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: I thought everyone was.

727
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Were great yeah, or like everybody did great with what

728
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: they had, right, we understand that. Yes, Okay, well that's that.

729
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: I hope you guys don't hate us too much for

730
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: going through that.

731
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Speaker 2: But but you know how much we love Greece.

732
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

733
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 2: I think that's the other thing too, is like being

734
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: protective over like the legacy of Greece, and you're like,

735
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: this is what you come back with. Yeah, I'm just

736
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: not going a bit yeah yea, yeah, Okay, So we

737
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: found on TikTok Jenna Samantha three three three there's a

738
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: trend going on right now with Bees in the Trap

739
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: and the song that's going on, yes, and it is

740
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: these two people won dresses, shoes, her with a crazy

741
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: wig and so Sylvester Sylvester is doing the Nicki Minaj part,

742
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: and I just think it really fits, you know, a

743
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: Glee reference. It's a mashup. I think it's something we

744
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: would have done.

745
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: This is a total bob. I'm into it.

746
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: And I think Susilvester doing the Nicki Minaj part makes

747
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. And like it's Halloween, so like

748
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: get in your best Glee costumes and do this.

749
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: Probably yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

750
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: Also, I remember Naya showed me this Nicki Minaj song

751
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: on set of Glee had just come out, and she's like,

752
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna like this and.

753
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: Bees into Trap that was already that was already out

754
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: when Glee was still That's crazy to me, it feels

755
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: like it was much more recent.

756
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: Wait, let me double check, unless I'm like conflating memories.

757
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, wow, wow, yeah, I remember she Okay,

758
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: I remember she told me about it. She's like, I

759
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: heard this song, that's what it was. We were in

760
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: Long Beach and she goes. We were in the hair

761
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: making sure I heard the song You're gonna love it,

762
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: and she's like, it's like Nicki Minaja saying like bees

763
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: into trap. We didn't know what she meant by it.

764
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: And then I was driving on like Laurel Canon I

765
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: remember for some reason, like it was like one of

766
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: s and it came yeah, and it came on and

767
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: I called her. I was like, I love it.

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00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it, this is it. If you have

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00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: any Eagle Lye costumes, please send them our way. We'd

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00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: love to see them. And Kevin, we have an assignment

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Speaker 1: for everybody for next week.

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00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: Our assignment for next week is rent.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what will I do? I'm so excited

774
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: and also nervous because Red is such a staple in

775
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: my mind on the stage production and the film wasn't

776
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: what I remember it to be. So we'll have to

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Speaker 1: see come back and check it out. And thanks for

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Speaker 1: hanging out with.

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Speaker 2: Us, and that's what you really miss Thanks for listening

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Speaker 2: and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you

781
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,480
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