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Speaker 2: The Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson has agreed to a
Speaker 2: deal to become the Chicago bears next head coach. Johnson
Speaker 2: has been the Lions offensive coordinator for the past three seasons,
Speaker 2: and if I'm not mistaken, I think they finish in
Speaker 2: the top five in offense each of those seasons. Who
Speaker 2: will feel the job vacated by Matt Eberflus when they
Speaker 2: fired him on November twenty nine. Johnson will become the
Speaker 2: nineteenth the head coach in franch the one hundred and
Speaker 2: five year franchise existence. Ojo, Do you like the hip
Speaker 2: you God? Damn right.
Speaker 4: I like the height you God damn right. Now, listen,
Speaker 4: we talked about Ben Johnson. Now this we talk about
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson. That worked wonders with Jared Goff, worked wonders
Speaker 4: offensively with that offense. The creativity that is amazed all
Speaker 4: of us all season long. Now you know Dan Campbell
Speaker 4: loves to go fourth on fourth down.
Speaker 2: Why do you.
Speaker 4: Think he's so confident in doing some of the things
Speaker 4: he does as a head coach because of Ben Johnson
Speaker 4: and what he's able to do. So I look at
Speaker 4: it from this standpoint. You got Jameson Williams, you got
Speaker 4: a mine, Ross Saint Brown, you got the porter. Now
Speaker 4: you go to another support of cast in Chicago that
Speaker 4: hef his skill sets, but.
Speaker 5: They get the job done very well.
Speaker 2: Right. You have a great.
Speaker 4: Quarterback, dual threat quarterback who's a little bit more mobile,
Speaker 4: a little bit more agile, can playoff script a little
Speaker 4: better than golf and Kadin Williams. He's a good thrower
Speaker 4: of the ball as well. This is going to be
Speaker 4: a perfect relationship not only for Ben Johnson, but for
Speaker 4: Kenny william in his career. I guarantee you and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna put it out there right now, and it's gonna
Speaker 4: be a I told you so a moment when the
Speaker 4: season starts and we're about when we in about maybe
Speaker 4: week seven, a week eight, and I'd be like I
Speaker 4: told you so, Williams being one of the top quarterbacks
Speaker 4: in the league statistically because of Ben Johnson and his
Speaker 4: creativity and its office of prowess.
Speaker 2: Watch. I like the high. Yeah, I like the high.
Speaker 2: But what I don't like Chicago and New England doing
Speaker 2: that fake stuff. Bring black coaches in the Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: they brought Adie George in there. And you know, look,
Speaker 2: if you you gotta take it. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: damn well they won't excuse excuse me. Then you know,
Speaker 2: good d well, you know good, you know, good d well.
Speaker 2: You want to Ben Johns, right, but O Joe, hey,
Speaker 2: the Rooney rule, I got that quota. You got the
Speaker 2: same thing in New England. New England, y'all brought two black.
Speaker 2: Y'all brought Pep Hammer to the end. Y'all brought this
Speaker 2: other black you know good and well yeah, Yral Leftwich,
Speaker 2: y'all know good. First of all, Viral Left, which has
Speaker 2: been out of the league for what two years, and
Speaker 2: y'all gonna bring him in now. He ain't got no
Speaker 2: off at the court that but y'all brought him in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and see, y'all what y'all did. The Patriots did that
Speaker 2: thing so good. They brought two of him in, brought
Speaker 2: two up. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, they have to check the boxes. They
Speaker 4: got it. They gotta check the boxes, like you said,
Speaker 4: they gotta. You gott to meet the quota. You have
Speaker 4: to satisfy the rule that's in place.
Speaker 5: That's really not working.
Speaker 2: I ain't got no tea to it. And but look,
Speaker 2: I like to hire I like Ben Johnson. I like
Speaker 2: what he did. You mentioned it. He had a quarterback
Speaker 2: that's more mobile. He has very good Look. You got
Speaker 2: Roman Dunes that they took in the first round for
Speaker 2: the Bears. You got DJ Moore that you're signed to
Speaker 2: a conduct contract extension. You got Keenan Allen. I think
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen's a free agent, so you probably bring him
Speaker 2: back because he came on strong at the end of
Speaker 2: the year. He's that guy that he's not as fast,
Speaker 2: is not as quick as an amend the Saint in
Speaker 2: the slot, but he gets it done. He got tremendous moves,
Speaker 2: he got great hands. I like it. Be the big body.
Speaker 2: He can body you know, he can body you up.
Speaker 2: So I like that. I like that. I don't really
Speaker 2: know the running back situation. You're gonna have to prove
Speaker 2: the offensive line just because that's one thing Jandre Swift
Speaker 2: Ye offensive line, and you're gonna probably get better because
Speaker 2: you look at what they got and Detroit. You know,
Speaker 2: you got Penny Suell, who's a pro bowler, all Pro.
Speaker 2: You got Zeitler, you got Deck, you got Glass, now
Speaker 2: you got Decker, you got ragged, now you got you know,
Speaker 2: Detroit has a very good offensive line. And so you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to get that up to part in Chicago
Speaker 2: because your quarterback took sixty plus sacks. That's too many.
Speaker 2: O yo, Yeah, that's way too many sacks. Now, all
Speaker 2: of it is not on the offensive line, Caleb, Wi'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to do a better job of getting ready
Speaker 2: to football. It's okay to throw it away because sometimes
Speaker 2: I think, God, they get caught up. O yo, Well
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mess up completion percentage. Bro, throw that damn
Speaker 2: ball away. You don't want to be taking all those hits, right,
Speaker 2: But I like the high. I'm sure they got they
Speaker 2: got money and and and CAF face that they can
Speaker 2: improve this team. I love the hire by Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2: I got no qualms about that high. Uh. He's put
Speaker 2: his time in as an offensive as an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: as an offensive coach. I think it was right. It
Speaker 2: was the right time for him to get this job.
Speaker 2: So I really, I really like the high. I'm a
Speaker 2: little surprised that he went in the same division. Uh
Speaker 2: as if formal boss normally they get they get away,
Speaker 2: oh Joe. But hey, that was the best situation. I
Speaker 2: always thought that the Bears. For me, that was the
Speaker 2: best situation that was available to me. Now, I mean
Speaker 2: other people, the people like the Raiders, you know, cause
Speaker 2: ain't nothing to work over there. He ain't got no quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you understood that that was that was the
Speaker 4: best fit, especially for him and what he brings to
Speaker 4: the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was the best. I thought that
Speaker 2: the Jets, you got the Jets situation. You got a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff stuff going on with the Jets. One
Speaker 2: of the whatever whatever one of the job is available,
Speaker 2: O Joe. The Jets was available. The Saints, the Saints
Speaker 2: hopefully uh A G get the Saints or the Jets.
Speaker 2: I know, I think you know he obviously a played
Speaker 2: with the Jets. Hell he played with the Saints. Also,
Speaker 2: he was on the defensive side. He was on Sean
Speaker 2: Payton's staff when he was at the Saints. So but
Speaker 2: hopefully he gets one of these jobs. But it's gonna
Speaker 2: be tough without a quarterback. You gotta find a quarterback
Speaker 2: on Joe. Without that, you don't really have a chance
Speaker 2: to have longevity.
Speaker 5: At Lisa's gonna be short. Lisa is very short. If
Speaker 5: he ain't got no.
Speaker 2: Quarterback, well, ill leased is short anyway. But anyway, that's
Speaker 2: not what that we We're talking about that another day. Uh,
Speaker 2: but I like to hire I like Ben Johnson High
Speaker 2: Chicago should be good. That's a very tough division on Joe. Uh,
Speaker 2: you got young. We'll we'll see what Minnesota does with
Speaker 2: Sam Donald. Uh do they move on or do they
Speaker 2: keep elevate? JJ McCarthy gonna be very interesting because you
Speaker 2: got Jordan Love, you got golf, you got Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: So like Cowboys have officially hired Brian Schottenheimer, who was
Speaker 2: their officive coordinator last year. Jared made the movie and
Speaker 2: he was comfortable. Now mind you now remember the reports
Speaker 2: that came out. Jerry really liked Dion, and Steven really
Speaker 2: wanted Brian shot and he really he really wanted Jerry
Speaker 2: really liked Coach Prime. But Stephen who they were really
Speaker 2: buts and I came over here said, oh, Joe, everybody
Speaker 2: knew it was some bull job, but it was just
Speaker 2: something to smoke screen. Hey, we talked to coach Prime.
Speaker 2: That's how mind, that's how one token boom we get on.
Speaker 2: We go with that, and uh the Cowboys. Notably, they
Speaker 2: didn't interview anto the top candidates, the Ben Johnson, Uh,
Speaker 2: Cliff King, he's very couldn't talk because he was in
Speaker 2: the h he was going week the week, so you
Speaker 2: only had your You could only talk if you were
Speaker 2: in a high week. So Naggie Spagnola, Eric g Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 2: none of the top candidates were interviewed by Jerry Brian Schottenheimer. Again,
Speaker 2: my only problem, oyo, I don't have a problem, Chad.
Speaker 2: I don't want anybody to think that I have a
Speaker 2: problem with the hire. But don't give me this bull job.
Speaker 2: You want somebody that called plays Mike McCarthy call plays
Speaker 2: yeh see We want somebody with previous head coaching experience.
Speaker 2: We want somebody that called plays. Brian Schottenheimer has never
Speaker 2: been a head coach. He didn't call plays. That's neither
Speaker 2: hero nor there. Oh, Joe, what do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Obviously, Jerry wants to continue continue his reign with power.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to relinquish that power.
Speaker 4: He wants to be in control of everything, and he
Speaker 4: hired a coach that will fall in line.
Speaker 2: With just that, baby and break and bring you know whatever, Joe,
Speaker 2: not to cut you off, bring Jason Whitne. Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely.
Speaker 4: So again Jerry getting in the way again, doing things
Speaker 4: his way, and the definition of insanity, Chat, you stayed,
Speaker 4: stay with me now.
Speaker 1: The definition of insanity.
Speaker 4: Is doing things over and over and over in the
Speaker 4: way you see fit and expecting different results. The results
Speaker 4: have been the same for years, for years, and you
Speaker 4: continuously do it. Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy. Now, mister Schottenheimer,
Speaker 4: nothing is going to change until you remove yourself and
Speaker 4: get out the way.
Speaker 1: And allow people to do their job. Not you trying
Speaker 1: to do again, not you trying to do multiple things
Speaker 1: at once.
Speaker 2: M Jan Gaily, Dave Campbell, Wade Phillip, Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 2: now Brian Schottenheimer, all of them. Nothing. It's just different names,
Speaker 2: but nothing shame any.
Speaker 1: Any of the people that you just called.
Speaker 4: Will any of them challenge Jerry anything?
Speaker 2: My point exactly, and you let him feel your staff
Speaker 2: and you let him like, well, I want this guy
Speaker 2: to be on your defensive staff. I want this guy
Speaker 2: to be on your offensive staff. No coaches is gonna
Speaker 2: give that. No, no, no, they're not gonna do that.
Speaker 2: That's if it's one thing, Joe. I go to a
Speaker 2: company and I'm looking around, I'm going to give them
Speaker 2: an opportunity. That don't mean I'm gonna keep them. But
Speaker 2: if I like what I hear, I'll keep them. But
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let you tell me where you got
Speaker 2: to keep this VP or you got to keep this CFO,
Speaker 2: or you got to keep this CEO. No, hell Na,
Speaker 2: that ain't happening me. But this hurt another thing, Ojo. Now,
Speaker 2: one other team attempted to interview Brian Scheinheimer. Now, all
Speaker 2: I want to know is this, look, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: me somebody somebody else won't cause if don't nobody else wanted.
Speaker 2: That's something you tried to tell me something I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta think about it. Think about it now.
Speaker 1: Look at the elephant in the room now.
Speaker 4: The coaches that were available, we talk about good coaches,
Speaker 4: and also the coaches that were also available that could
Speaker 4: have come to Dallas, that could have interviewed in Dallas,
Speaker 4: wouldn't go for the Shenanigans.
Speaker 1: You think Ben Johnson gonna stand down. You're gonna tell
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson.
Speaker 4: Who we can bring on and who we can Aaron Glynn,
Speaker 4: I mean obviously he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't get the job anyway. You think Amaron Glenn
Speaker 1: is gonna come to Dallas.
Speaker 4: You're gonna tell Aaron Glynn what type of staff he
Speaker 4: can put together.
Speaker 2: But people believe he could work with Coach Belichick. Can
Speaker 2: you imagine him telling Coach Belichick, Hey, I want Jason
Speaker 2: Whitten to come on and he gonna be your coach.
Speaker 2: You waited, man, Man Belichick.
Speaker 1: Man Belichick is ted.
Speaker 4: That goddamn ted Jerry's world down.
Speaker 1: You have to get out of your own way. You
Speaker 1: have to. You don't have a choice.
Speaker 2: He's been an offensive coordinator before, he's with the Jets
Speaker 2: for three years. His highest point is highest points per game.
Speaker 2: They were thirteenth. He called for Saint Louis. The highest
Speaker 2: points per game was twenty first. He also called in Seattle.
Speaker 2: His highest points per game was six. In twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: he had two three top ten offenses. As far as points,
Speaker 2: he averaged eight point seven, twenty five point three, twenty
Speaker 2: six point eight, and then that ended. And this was
Speaker 2: his first quar way back. That's been a coordinator, correct, Okay,
Speaker 2: So he's been a coordinator. He's been a coordinator for
Speaker 2: eleven years. Had some success. Uh orchestrated three top ten
Speaker 2: offenses in Seattle, none in the top twenty in Saint
Speaker 2: Louis and none in the top ten. And at the Jets.
Speaker 2: He was with the but he wasn't co coordinated or
Speaker 2: wasn't he was okay, okay, okay, So he's with that.
Speaker 2: He's so he was there with with Rex. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So we know those offenses back then, Oh Joe was
Speaker 2: running the football play behind your defense. It was a
Speaker 2: more ground than pound. But his most success it came
Speaker 2: in Seattle. He did have great success in Seattle with
Speaker 2: russ six sixteen points per game, ninth in points per game,
Speaker 2: eighth in points per game. That's pretty good resume. But
Speaker 2: we know why he got the job. It's because Jerry
Speaker 2: wants someone that he can control. It's really that simple.
Speaker 2: There's no other I'm not gonna make it a black
Speaker 2: white issue because I don't believe it's a black white issue.
Speaker 2: It's a control issue. Jerry wants control. Jerry wants control
Speaker 2: because Jerry wants credit. None of the blame, but the control.
Speaker 2: Because this thing fell apart, I can't believe this happened.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked, is anybody No, you're not shocked as anybody
Speaker 2: you put this is together, you should be the least
Speaker 2: shock that it fell apart. But like you said, I mean,
Speaker 2: you do what you've done, you get what you've always gotten.
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to believe I can build a scenario.
Speaker 2: At some point in time, I'm going to change something
Speaker 2: if I do, if I get the same results for
Speaker 2: thirty years and my objective. But Jerry's a promoter, Jerry's
Speaker 2: not trying to win. Jerry's fool not food to meat.
Speaker 2: He might fool some of the fans in Dallas, and
Speaker 2: I think for the most part they've even caught on.
Speaker 2: Jerry's all about selling. Jery looks at it like anytime
Speaker 2: they're talking about me, that's good enough. We don't need
Speaker 2: to talk. They don't need to talk about me winning championship,
Speaker 2: they don't need to talk about be being that they're
Speaker 2: talking about me. So I'm in the news. That's good
Speaker 2: enough for him, and I don't see it changing. They
Speaker 2: bring back the same cast. If you look at guys
Speaker 2: leave Dallas and well look at now gall he went
Speaker 2: to the Rams. I'm just saying they make a trade
Speaker 2: for a guy at Carolina. I mean, they give a
Speaker 2: fourth round draft pick and the guy had how many
Speaker 2: he might have had four catches the.
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, man, listen, I don't I don't know what Jerry.
Speaker 4: Jerry is doing. I can't question it. I've been around
Speaker 4: football for a very long time, obviously, not as long
Speaker 4: as you have, and not as long as he has.
Speaker 4: He's an owner, he's a GM hell, he's every goddamn thing.
Speaker 4: He just thinks his way always works, and the fact
Speaker 4: that he wants credit is just beyond me. You know,
Speaker 4: when you can look at the landscape of the NFL
Speaker 4: with all the owners that consistently win, all the other
Speaker 4: franchises where they win consistently, you know, the Packers, the Bills,
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, the Steelers, I mean, teams have a rich
Speaker 4: history in winning, you know, in the past, the.
Speaker 2: Eagle, anybody going to the championship.
Speaker 1: Since you don't see any of the owners.
Speaker 4: Front and center making decisions, you know, pigeonholding head coaches,
Speaker 4: not allowing them to pick their staff, people that they
Speaker 4: work well with. I mean, all that, all that matters,
Speaker 4: All that matters, and the fact that control and credit
Speaker 4: is what he.
Speaker 1: Wants is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: But if you Jerry has Jerry has probably let's get
Speaker 2: say for the sake of but let's just be safe,
Speaker 2: he owned ten other businesses. How many of those businesses
Speaker 2: you think he hads on Probably not none because he
Speaker 2: doesn't know. But yet he thinks he knows football.
Speaker 1: But he's been around football the longest, so he feels.
Speaker 4: Like he knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been around apploud, it doesn't make me a tractor.
Speaker 2: Hell you talking about it? Just call you around something. Hey.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Oh Joe, I'm sleeping my
Speaker 2: garage tonight. That don't make me a car that's on
Speaker 2: I got. I'm just trying to figure out what what
Speaker 2: makes him think he knows just because you around something?
Speaker 2: Hell O, Joe, if somebody gonna give me all the note,
Speaker 2: if somebody gonna give me the scouting report, I can
Speaker 2: read off what they wrote down. You think, Jered going
Speaker 2: to the Senior Bowl and out there looking this guy
Speaker 2: got his no pad like, Okay, guy got great pad level,
Speaker 2: drops his hip, great transition, change of direction. Oh he
Speaker 2: bends the edge really well. I like the way button prints.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he don't know. Hell not detail like that.
Speaker 2: Hell no. But there are guys that do. What's the
Speaker 2: what's the guy name that runs the Cowboys? Will Will mcclayton,
Speaker 2: Will Clayton, he knows. He writes the notes, gives him
Speaker 2: to Jerry, and then Jerry and they have a little selection. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: And who do we think is gonna be available when
Speaker 2: we select? At the time we select, they give them
Speaker 2: a list of names. Everybody have their faull Jered, this
Speaker 2: is what we need, okay, Jered, this is what we need.
Speaker 2: Brouh Michael Parson's fail in your Lap You ain't do
Speaker 2: nothing CD fail in the Lap? Come on, bro, that
Speaker 2: ain't nothing. They failed to you. They had an agreement
Speaker 2: Davontae's mill. The Eagles wanted davonte'smil that's like, hey, we'll
Speaker 2: trade up. Just don't bother him. We'll let y'all trade. Okay,
Speaker 2: why just don't select Parsons or you're not gonna select Parson.
Speaker 2: You're gonna take Davonte, right, Okay, boom CD fail in
Speaker 2: their lap. All the other receivers were gone, so who
Speaker 2: ain't gonna pick? They needed a receiver. Jedda was gone,
Speaker 2: Judy was gone, Rudd's was gone, Wada was gone. Wow,
Speaker 2: he really went out a limb and got ZD. I
Speaker 2: need a receiver. He the last one left. Oh no,
Speaker 2: my bad? No, yeah, because you Jalen Record.
Speaker 4: Went before City went to the Philly right Billy?
Speaker 2: Yes, so o Cho, that ain't nothing. If a guy
Speaker 2: just fall in your lap. No, you want to impress me.
Speaker 2: Do what Kansas City did. Zoom up the draft board
Speaker 2: and go get somebody. That's what's impressive. That lets me know, Okay,
Speaker 2: they know what they're doing. You didn't do that, so
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. Mingo had seventeen catches for
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty seven yards all year. He had
Speaker 2: five catches for sixty four yards when he arrived in Dallas,
Speaker 2: and he played eight games, played nine for Carolina, and
Speaker 2: they traded a fourth round pick for him, right fourth
Speaker 2: or philth traded a fourth round pick for that kind ofduction.
Speaker 4: He doesn't know what he's doing. He may do, yes,
Speaker 4: but there's no way he does. It's not you know,
Speaker 4: it's it's almost it's it's it's hold on.
Speaker 2: Listen with did hold on? Hold Joe? Did Justin Jefferson
Speaker 2: go before after CD? He want to pick after? Yeah?
Speaker 2: He went twenty second? Oh so you so you went CD?
Speaker 2: And Justin Jefferson went twenty second. Check the number down,
Speaker 2: look at the number between the two. But he know
Speaker 2: football not the CD is a bad because CD is
Speaker 2: a number one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But I don't know very many people that's taking
Speaker 2: over Jenna. I mean, listen, maybe Cowboy fans, but I'm
Speaker 2: talking about if you poll, if you pole GMS, you
Speaker 2: poll all thirty two GMS and says, okay, you got
Speaker 2: Jedda or you got CD, because right now people gonna
Speaker 2: take Chase in Jena. They won two. Both of those
Speaker 2: guys were unanimous first team All Pros. There weren't a
Speaker 2: whole lot of unanimous first team All Pros, but those
Speaker 2: two guys, with two of them and John jam there
Speaker 2: have been an All Pro every year except what last
Speaker 2: year he got nicked. He went over one thousand oh
Speaker 2: joint missed like seven games. Hey, you imagine what his
Speaker 2: numbers would have been. Ain't nobody close to him his
Speaker 2: first three years, his first four years, his first five years.
Speaker 2: Nobody is close to those numbers. Now, with the season
Speaker 2: that a Chase had, Chase might have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: get him. But he's gonna probably need another fourteen to
Speaker 2: fifty hundred, which is possible with his quarterback in that system.
Speaker 2: But Jared don't know what he's doing.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: And like I said, I don't got no problem with
Speaker 2: Brian shat and high. I'm just saying this notion that
Speaker 2: he's scouring and he's trying to get the best man
Speaker 2: for the job. I don't believe he's doing now. I
Speaker 2: don't believe he's ever done that. Now, say he's not
Speaker 2: gonna get a chat cowboy fans. Jerry is not gonna
Speaker 2: get anybody that's going to offer him some resistance. Brian
Speaker 2: let me tell you what. Brian Shott and Hobber doesn't
Speaker 2: have any say on the final fifty three, any say
Speaker 2: in free agency, any say in the draft.
Speaker 1: And all those are things that the head coach should
Speaker 1: have some type of saying or roll over.
Speaker 2: Just basically almost like, I guess what if they still
Speaker 2: have arranged marriages? Hold on, I do one. They gotta
Speaker 2: be with this, lady? Do I need to do it?
Speaker 2: You try to tell me what I want. I know
Speaker 2: what I want Jerry is that this is an arrange marriage.
Speaker 2: Jerry is telling you he's picking players, telling you what
Speaker 2: you need as opposed to what you want or what
Speaker 2: would best or or what would fit best to the system. Now,
Speaker 2: is them coming back? I mean I had the as
Speaker 2: far as I know. See that's another thing. What if
Speaker 2: Brian shot and hiber Water High is on DC.
Speaker 4: Now that's that's that's crazy. I mean, listen, it's crazy
Speaker 4: the way things are wrung. Obviously, Jerry has the power.
Speaker 4: We understand that he's going to.
Speaker 1: Exercise that right and that power at every turn and every.
Speaker 4: Chance he gets, every chance and every turn Terry gets,
Speaker 4: he's killing he's killing his own franchise, he's killing his
Speaker 4: own key.
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll was hired as head coach of the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll's and the Raiders have reached agreement on a
Speaker 2: three year deal with a team option for fourth. When
Speaker 2: the regular season start, Carroll will become the oldest person
Speaker 2: to ever serve as head coach in the NFL. He
Speaker 2: turned seventy four in September. The previous record was held
Speaker 2: by Romeo Cridinal, who was seventy three when he served
Speaker 2: the interim head coach of the Houston Texans. Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: do you like this one?
Speaker 4: It's peak, It's Pete Carroll. I like Pete Carroll. Pete's resume,
Speaker 4: you know, it speaks for herself what he's done. He's
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl winning head coach. Again, when I look
Speaker 4: at what he has to work with over in Las Vegas,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure why he would want to. Maybe he
Speaker 4: knows something we don't know. Maybe he knows something, you know,
Speaker 4: he has something cooking.
Speaker 2: What you what he wants?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I know, But still, I mean, just just going to
Speaker 4: take a job knowing that your least is going to
Speaker 4: be short, knowing that you don't have the most.
Speaker 1: Important position on your team.
Speaker 4: On that team that matters to be able to compete
Speaker 4: and contend, and that do you know what conference division
Speaker 4: he's in?
Speaker 2: Yes, YC West, Broncos, Chargers, Charge. Yeah, all of them
Speaker 2: got quarterbacks, everybody got quarterbacks whatever greatly.
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure that he got to be thinking
Speaker 4: about something. Must be cooking up something with Mark Davis.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this and Chad, y'all can help me.
Speaker 2: You understand, you're seventy years old. This thirty two year
Speaker 2: old things. She nine got long hair, she got ooh skin,
Speaker 2: built stacked like dirty laundry in the door, then her
Speaker 2: down the back, and when she stepped, he'll stepple. Y'all
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. She'll stepper. Y'all will see. She's
Speaker 2: gonna have a wire sell, she'll have old tom Ford,
Speaker 2: she'll have on them blood bottoms. Everything is, everything is immaculate,
Speaker 2: and she's interested in you. You taking that. Pete Carroll
Speaker 2: said about to be seventy four, how many jobs? And
Speaker 2: you think he gonna get in the NFL at the
Speaker 2: age of seventy with it?
Speaker 1: I like to listen when you put it like that,
Speaker 1: when you give me that kind of analogy, I like him.
Speaker 1: You going with it. But everything you just said, you know,
Speaker 1: you talk about tom Ford, you know, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: the nice shoes and she's a stepper.
Speaker 4: Well, everything you just describing that woman ain't the goddamn
Speaker 4: Las Vegas Raiders. It don't go together, you know. Now,
Speaker 4: the lost the Las Vegas Raiders is the one where
Speaker 4: your homeboys saying, hey boy, I ain't sharp. I need
Speaker 4: to want to take them for the team tonight. Now
Speaker 4: the one I got, you know, she's a team now her.
Speaker 1: Friend, she says, she had to bring her friend with her.
Speaker 1: Now a friend is on the six. But you're gonna
Speaker 1: take on.
Speaker 2: Us.
Speaker 4: It's like like getting getting ready to be the head
Speaker 4: coach for the Chiefs or something.
Speaker 2: But you have to understand the o jo. She's so interesting.
Speaker 2: She ain't got to have on nothing. She might come
Speaker 2: out the house with crops. She might come out the
Speaker 2: house with that bonnet on, but she's thirty two.
Speaker 1: Who curry.
Speaker 4: Let me let me give the visuals together. Now, how
Speaker 4: tall are we talking? How tall we talking?
Speaker 2: She's somewhere between she somewhere between five seven and five nine.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'm gonna do I'm gonna do you one better.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do you one better because we both we
Speaker 4: both talked, let's just make a just just make a five, five, five, nine,
Speaker 4: five ten. So when she put some when you put
Speaker 4: some heels on, we call an amazon.
Speaker 2: Thirty two got a nice job. She makes six figures,
Speaker 2: low six figures. When you see how she ain't got
Speaker 2: nothing on that she carried. She carried Louis all the time.
Speaker 2: She got her own, got her own crib, got her
Speaker 2: own car.
Speaker 4: And you gotta be careful now because because everything you
Speaker 4: describe right now as a woman.
Speaker 2: She talked back, that's okay. I listened, she talked, I listen.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you talking about, O Joe. Hey,
Speaker 2: I about to be fifty self. Man, I hafit of
Speaker 2: you all that I passed that stage, O Joe? What
Speaker 2: I got to? Where the past? And I get he's
Speaker 2: gotta be by way. Oh no, she talked back, and yo, yo,
Speaker 2: you know what. You're right. I didn't want to go
Speaker 2: over there. Why didn't you tell me this yesterday?
Speaker 1: I like it. I like I listen, I understand you
Speaker 1: at this is a different phase in life. You under
Speaker 1: you have to understand you don't have to fight guy it's.
Speaker 2: Not like he Ben Johnson. See, yeah, Tom Brady wanted
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, I ain't got no quarterback. Yeah, ideally,
Speaker 2: would I like to be in the same division. No,
Speaker 2: But I got a quarterback over here. I got skill
Speaker 2: position player over here. I got a lot of cap
Speaker 2: space and I can build. Guess what, I got a
Speaker 2: quarterback on a rookie contract, so I could put some
Speaker 2: pieces around him.
Speaker 1: You got, you got a little time, got by two more.
Speaker 2: Years, got two more years. So with that being said,
Speaker 2: O Joe, but Pete being seventy about to be seventy four,
Speaker 2: think about it. In the history of the game, there's
Speaker 2: only one other coach. Romeo was seventy three, and he
Speaker 2: was introl. Wasn't had he wasn't you know that wasn't
Speaker 2: Somebody hired him and gave him the job. He just
Speaker 2: took over. So for me, it was for for for Pete,
Speaker 2: it's a no brainer. Now Pete can't build a team.
Speaker 2: We saw what he did with Seattle. But Russ came
Speaker 2: to him in the third round. I think Russ was
Speaker 2: a third round draft pick, and we saw what happened.
Speaker 2: They had a great defense. They built that thing. They
Speaker 2: had be wagged. They had Sharon, they had Chancellor, they
Speaker 2: had Earl, they had Malcolm Smith, they had Bennett, they
Speaker 2: had Cliff April, they had Red, they had a squad.
Speaker 2: Russ come in. Remember now, they assigned Matt Flynn in
Speaker 2: free agency from Green Bay. He was expected. They gave
Speaker 2: him ten million dollars guaranteed, had a thirty million dollar contract,
Speaker 2: ten million dollars signing bonus, and he never touched the field.
Speaker 2: Russ Beady Mountain Camp.
Speaker 1: Crazy, how that world?
Speaker 2: Hey? And maybe they can, maybe they can, maybe he
Speaker 2: can strike lightning. He under see the thing is o joe.
Speaker 2: He understands. He's been ahead coach of the different stops.
Speaker 2: He's head coach at the Jets. He's head coach at
Speaker 2: the Patriots, head coach at Seattle, head coach here, head
Speaker 2: coach at USC. And you look at what he did.
Speaker 2: USC was USC was not winning before Pete got there.
Speaker 2: He put USC back on map. Now you not old
Speaker 2: enough to remember when USC had that juggernaut late sixties
Speaker 2: and the through the seventies. They were hell they were loaded, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I mean you got to think about it. They had
Speaker 2: Charles White and Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, Joey
Speaker 2: Browner Ross, all the all those guys. So they were
Speaker 2: they were really Lynn Kine, all those guys were in
Speaker 2: that backfield, they were really, they were really good munyos. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Don mose Bar was on that team. They were,
Speaker 2: they were, they were loaded. But Pete knows how to
Speaker 2: build a team. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: if you look at the teams when he's had his best,
Speaker 2: most recess, always it matters and without him. So Russell Russ,
Speaker 2: Pete reunite in open I mean, Eman Russ, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4: That's a good one. That's a good That's a good one.
Speaker 4: I like, I like, I like what you're thinking. That's
Speaker 4: a possibility. I'm not I'm not sure. I am not sure.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 4: That's a good one. A quarterback that you're familiar with,
Speaker 4: a quarterback that you want a super Bowl with, you know.
Speaker 4: But there were some there were some issues internally.
Speaker 2: It got you want to go there, like, nah, bro,
Speaker 2: I see the people like I see diminishing skills. Nah bro.
Speaker 2: I I ain't really trying to give you two hundred
Speaker 2: plus Russey bro I And you know, hey, spend the box. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 2: you know some type of thing be so bad on you.
Speaker 2: Youn't got a choice, but I don't. That ain't what
Speaker 2: that ain't what I said out, But sometimes.
Speaker 1: You have to do.
Speaker 2: You know that half your age plus seven minus three.
Speaker 2: So that's where I come forward. That's that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's my box. Yes, I stay right here, on Joe,
Speaker 2: I ain't going out part of it, you know, side
Speaker 2: to side, side to side, right here, But I ain't
Speaker 2: going outside that box. Okay, maybe, hey, you know who
Speaker 2: it is. Maybe you know what I'm talking about. You
Speaker 2: know you dog talking about O Joe. You know I
Speaker 2: say the aid sometime you know a uh like hey boy,
Speaker 2: age twenty seven thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Different, it's different. Listen.
Speaker 2: You know it's good.
Speaker 4: You know it's good about us is really understanding and
Speaker 4: realizing we're not.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're not the same as we were as we want.
Speaker 4: No, we understand what we're capable of doing at our
Speaker 4: age now the thing we did not in our teens
Speaker 4: in twenties and thirties.
Speaker 1: Man, we ain't pulling that. We're not pulling that shit
Speaker 1: off at.
Speaker 2: This No, no, no, why I ain't the look I ain't.
Speaker 2: I ain't for the grab, no twenty five year old
Speaker 2: like I could when I was thirty two, thirty three.
Speaker 2: I already know that right now, Oh Joe, I'm when
Speaker 2: I can, not when I want to. You see what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Oh Yoe, I'm when I can't, not when
Speaker 2: I want to. Understand that yet understable stay we will
Speaker 2: not stay with it. There's a difference between the two.
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what you got? You got
Speaker 1: self awareness.
Speaker 4: Awareness is so important, but it's lacking in so many,
Speaker 4: so many of our men today.
Speaker 1: It's lacking in so many of our life things.
Speaker 4: You can keep up and do some of the things
Speaker 4: you did when you no.
Speaker 2: I'm hey, Hey, I'm who I am about to be
Speaker 2: eight six months fifty seven. Now I don't look it.
Speaker 2: I still I'm in shave, you know. I eat my
Speaker 2: vedges and do my alms. But hey, at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, they hit that Google, Damn, damn. Fifty
Speaker 2: fifty salm, yeah, uh fifty salmn. Hey, Hey, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: you know sometime you have to, Hey, catch a straggler
Speaker 2: come out of the supermarket. You know what. I'm there,
Speaker 2: I'm lead.
Speaker 1: On the list.
Speaker 2: I'm leading on the wall, waiting on.
Speaker 4: It's a ninth. It's the ninth is two strikes and
Speaker 4: three balls. What you're gonna do now? On a quarter
Speaker 4: to a two minutes? Two minute drive?
Speaker 2: Hey? While, hey, you sit in your car for a
Speaker 2: little while. Watch you go in and out? Okay? Hey,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, she looks as desperate as I am. The
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars finalizing a deal to hire Bucks offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: Lim Cohen as their next head coach. The move comes
Speaker 2: after Cohen agreed to an extension with the Buccaneers and
Speaker 2: removed himself from the consideration for the Jags job. Cohen
Speaker 2: met with Jaguars on Thursday to discuss the vacancy, despite
Speaker 2: the news of his return to Jampa, which would have
Speaker 2: made him the highest paid coordinator in NFL history. Jacksonville
Speaker 2: reportedly reached out to Coin after the team fired Trent
Speaker 2: Bauki to see if he would reconsider the offer, and
Speaker 2: after their talks, it appears Jacksonville has their guy.
Speaker 5: Well, I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 4: And the fact that the fact that he chose to
Speaker 4: leave even though the Bucks were gonna make him the
Speaker 4: highest paid off as the coordinator.
Speaker 2: You know they gonna make it by de gonna make
Speaker 2: more than we were gonna make our Jacks. How you
Speaker 2: figure he gonna make at least seven million dollars with
Speaker 2: the Jags, the highest paid cortinator probably make you make
Speaker 2: three million dollars. We remember we just talked about Spagnola
Speaker 2: making No, that's that's what I'm just saying.
Speaker 4: But if they if they, if they're telling him to
Speaker 4: leave the job, we want you to reconsider. I'm sure
Speaker 4: allow him to set the market on whatever it is.
Speaker 2: No, they're gonna ask him to know, the Jags ask
Speaker 2: him to reconsider, so they're gonna give him a head
Speaker 2: coaching job, which would probably be somewhere around seven million.
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers was only gonna give him three
Speaker 2: million million.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, not just saying said, okay, I had
Speaker 4: him backwards, but I knew he was leaping law Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Nobody. Yes, absolutely, And and look and you're over everything.
Speaker 2: You're you know, you're responsible. I mean, the head coach
Speaker 2: comes with a lot of responsibilities. You're not You're not
Speaker 2: responsible for one side of the ball, You're responsible for
Speaker 2: the whole ball. Offense, defense, special teams. When we're gonna practice.
Speaker 2: What time we're gonna meet? Okay, what's the uh, what's
Speaker 2: the the training? You know what I'm saying. As far
Speaker 2: as weight schedule, okay, and your player? What time did
Speaker 2: it have to be there? How long the meeting's gonna
Speaker 2: laugh last? What time are we gonna leave Ohoe for
Speaker 2: road trips where we're gonna stay? All that goes on
Speaker 2: the head coaches, So congratulations. I mean I hated for
Speaker 2: Baker because Baker had really under his guidance, Yep, he
Speaker 2: was Baker. Baker had. Baker had looked like the Baker
Speaker 2: that they took. That the reason why they took it
Speaker 2: with the number one overall pick I thanked in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: The last two years he showed you why. And a
Speaker 2: lot of that had to do, I believe had to
Speaker 2: do with Lim Cohen. Not to say Baker doesn't have talent,
Speaker 2: because obviously you go first overall you got talent, But
Speaker 2: I think he had found someone that believed in him,
Speaker 2: that had an offense that was really catered to what
Speaker 2: he does really well. He had nice quality receivers outside
Speaker 2: with Mike Evis. Even though Chris Godwin got hurt this year,
Speaker 2: the young guys had come along. I love the running
Speaker 2: backs that they got, but I hate this. I hate
Speaker 2: this for Baker, But I'm excited for someone to get
Speaker 2: an opportunity to be a Hey coach because Hey, last
Speaker 2: two years, he's done a great job as an OC
Speaker 2: for Tampa and he's getting rewarded for his hard work.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 2: So what do you think, O Joe?
Speaker 4: You liked him absolutely, absolutely, Listen if he can do,
Speaker 4: if he can do, if he can do an he
Speaker 4: did for Baker, imagine we will do for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield had Mike Evans. Now young Young Bullets has
Speaker 4: stood over there in Jacksonville. Now, Chat, I don't know
Speaker 4: if you paid attention to Brian, Tom and Junior, but
Speaker 4: he's the reason he's in the Pro Bowl. Here's a
Speaker 4: reason he's in the Pro Bowl. So that magic he
Speaker 4: had in Tampa with Baker and Mike Evans has always
Speaker 4: been Mike Evans. But I'm sure he can create that
Speaker 4: same magic between Trevor Lawrence and get him turned around.
Speaker 5: You know, after getting that huge and Brian had Tom
Speaker 5: and Jr.
Speaker 4: They were your security blanket right there there, your security
Speaker 4: banker right there, Travis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then go your security. Blame your bright Tank Bigsby.
Speaker 2: I think you probably need to do a little bit
Speaker 2: more with the offensive line. Shure that up. I think
Speaker 2: they got a pretty good defense. Maybe look at look
Speaker 2: at a corner, look at it. Look you got a
Speaker 2: high draft pick. You got a quarterback. You don't need
Speaker 2: a quarterback. I wouldn't spend a high draft pick on
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. I wouldn't spend a high draft pick
Speaker 2: on a tight end. I don't know if there's anyone
Speaker 2: that's worthy to be selected. Uh, if they're an offensive
Speaker 2: lineman that's worthy of a pick that high, Probably not.
Speaker 2: Maybe a defensive lineman, maybe a dB. But yeah, you
Speaker 2: got Trevor Lawrence, you got Brian Thomas Jr. You got
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram, you got Tank Bigsby, you got Trevor at In,
Speaker 2: I mean your every ATN So you got some nice
Speaker 2: quality pieces. But you gotta have to protect You're gonna
Speaker 2: have to protect trev and he's gonna have to do
Speaker 2: a job to protect himself. They have the number one pick, right, No,
Speaker 2: Tennessee has the number one pick.
Speaker 5: Okay, that means should do the shure do is going first.
Speaker 2: In Jacksonville's at five, So.
Speaker 4: Let me see it's uh Shad will probably go first
Speaker 4: to Tennessee.
Speaker 5: The second would.
Speaker 2: Be I think Cleveland's at two.
Speaker 4: Then cam Ward would probably go two. And who are
Speaker 4: in New England is three?
Speaker 2: Right? No Giants are three? New England's four, Jacksonville's five.
Speaker 5: That might that might be a shocker right there, two
Speaker 5: at three.
Speaker 2: I'm the question is what would Tennessee be moving to
Speaker 2: move down? Is there's somebody that's in the draft that
Speaker 2: Tennessee says we must that we must have and we
Speaker 2: don't believe he'll be he'll be available if we slide
Speaker 2: down to three, four, five, six, seven. That's the question,
Speaker 2: O Joe. Because the question is if Tennessee one player away,
Speaker 2: O Yoe, or do you de most Okay, If I
Speaker 2: can slide down and get next year's first rounder, get
Speaker 2: a maybe pick up a second or third this year
Speaker 2: and a second and third next year and in twenty seven,
Speaker 2: maybe get a fourth, I think that's the that's the
Speaker 2: best option because I don't think any of these teams
Speaker 2: are one player away. Now. Obviously everybody's not going to
Speaker 2: slide down, But if I can, if I can, if
Speaker 2: I can slide down Ojo and really really really build.
Speaker 4: I think I don't see anyone sliding down, especially with
Speaker 4: the players that that that we have one that are
Speaker 4: slotted in the mountin drafts to go top five. I
Speaker 4: don't see any team coming out of coming out of those.
Speaker 2: No. I should uh mark draft Ojoe should do Sander's
Speaker 2: one Tennessee Abdual Carter, the edge rusher out of Penn State.
Speaker 2: Two cam Ward quarterback out of Miami. Three Travis Hunter,
Speaker 2: the all purpose, all, do it all wide receiver, cornerback
Speaker 2: New England, Mason Graham d lion Michigan, Will Johnson cornerback Michigan,
Speaker 2: Will Campbell, offensive lineman ot Jets. Now this is just
Speaker 2: the marrow. Obviously, clearly Tennessee needs a court now, you know,
Speaker 2: listening there and talk today, there's like, hey, we're willing
Speaker 2: to bring Will Levits back, but kind of informed it
Speaker 2: that there's gonna be competitions.
Speaker 5: We know, we know what that means, and maybe that
Speaker 5: be good a good thing for Will. Maybe that would
Speaker 5: be a good thing.
Speaker 4: Having someone to help the foreshoempee at a high level,
Speaker 4: you know, to force you to minimize your mistakes, because
Speaker 4: you know when you got somebody looking over your shoulder.
Speaker 5: They can do two things. They can either make you
Speaker 5: or it can break.
Speaker 6: You's a lot, that's a lot of that's a lot
Speaker 6: of pressure when you know you can't make no mistakes,
Speaker 6: when you're trying to play mistake free football, then you
Speaker 6: start to press, you start rest.
Speaker 5: Let me listen. That ain't a good thing. It depends
Speaker 5: on how he's built mentally.
Speaker 2: I agree. I think the thing is old, Joe, is
Speaker 2: that ap did a disservice to the Raiders by winning
Speaker 2: that game, because this slid down from one all the
Speaker 2: way to six. So there's a possibility that you could, look,
Speaker 2: you can lose out on cam Ward and your door.
Speaker 5: Listen, listen on in the war room, you never know
Speaker 5: what's going to happen. You never know what goes on.
Speaker 4: They have those phones in there for a reason, so
Speaker 4: maybe something may happen, you know, before the draft, or
Speaker 4: you during the draft, and maybe somebody comes up and
Speaker 4: snatches the player that they want.
Speaker 5: On their board to make sure he doesn't get away.
Speaker 2: Well, they really don't have a whole lot of draft
Speaker 2: tradable pieces. The one piece they got is Crosby. Max
Speaker 2: Cosby Crosby. That's what That's one piece that everybody would
Speaker 2: be willing to give up a first round pick or
Speaker 2: multiple picks. Four. I don't see anybody else on that
Speaker 2: roster that they would be willing to give that up
Speaker 2: for rock Bowers. But they're not trading brock Bios hell no.
Speaker 2: But Max Crosby is the only one that I see
Speaker 2: that has the that has the capital attached to him
Speaker 2: that somebody would be willing to give up. He's the
Speaker 2: most valuable He and brock Buyers are the most valuable pieces. Well,
Speaker 2: clearly they're not trading brock Bowers. But I don't think
Speaker 2: the Raiders are one player away.
Speaker 5: But they need damn quarterback. That's what they need.
Speaker 4: They absolutely need to situation and then you build, you
Speaker 4: build her out.
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews publicly apologized for dropping the ball on what
Speaker 2: would have been a game time to point conversion. It
Speaker 2: is impossible to adequately express how I feel. I'm absolutely
Speaker 2: gutted by what happened on Sunday. I'm devastated for my teammates,
Speaker 2: my coaches, and Ravens fans. I pour every ounce of
Speaker 2: my being into playing at the highest level possible because
Speaker 2: I love my team, and I love the game of
Speaker 2: football like nothing else. That is why it's taken me
Speaker 2: until now to collect my thoughts and address this publicly.
Speaker 2: Even though the shocking disappointment are unlike anything I've felt before,
Speaker 2: I refuse to let this situation define me. I promise
Speaker 2: that this adverse adversity will only make me stronger and
Speaker 2: fuel us as we move forward. I think everyone that
Speaker 2: has shown me and our team genuine support these past
Speaker 2: several days. Despite the negativity, I've seen heartfelt love and encouragement,
Speaker 2: including from those who have generously donated to the Breakthrough
Speaker 2: T one D organization. Even when the moment seemed darker,
Speaker 2: perspective can reveal that there is still a lot of
Speaker 2: light in this world. I'm not going to do my
Speaker 2: part to bounce back and contribute to it. Hashtag God
Speaker 2: bless oh Joe. Was this necessary?
Speaker 5: No? No, not at all, Not at all. There's nothing
Speaker 5: you can do. There's no point of you know, writing
Speaker 5: writing an apology.
Speaker 4: They're ups and downs, their obstacles, they're hurdles any game,
Speaker 4: you know, anybody on the outside of that locker room
Speaker 4: and apology.
Speaker 5: You talk to your players, you talk to your teammates,
Speaker 5: you talk to your coaches, you know, and you let
Speaker 5: them know how you feel.
Speaker 4: There's no need you apologizing publicly to everyone that hasn't
Speaker 4: put in the work you've done. They're not there in
Speaker 4: training camp with you. They're not their meetings with you. No,
Speaker 4: they're not bleeding with you. They're not going to war
Speaker 4: out there with you. Now, they do support you because
Speaker 4: they are fans of the team. Any apologies should be
Speaker 4: had should be had within that team, to individual players
Speaker 4: and nobody else if that's what you see fit in doing.
Speaker 5: But that's the births of brotherhood.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know they're not gonna be talk talking trash
Speaker 4: about you, and oh maybe you just no.
Speaker 2: It happens, Oh Choe. I mean I remember Ernest Byner
Speaker 2: and I e B. I know EB. I mean knew
Speaker 2: Eb a long time he was in Baltimore or when
Speaker 2: I was there. It stayed in contact with him. He
Speaker 2: form of the ball, he's running into the m zon
Speaker 2: each other. He had a touchdown. They would have put
Speaker 2: the bull to put the Browns in front of the
Speaker 2: Broncos and got pulled it out. It happens. It happens.
Speaker 2: Look at Billy Buckler. The ball went right through his legs. Mhm. Magic.
Speaker 2: Johnson had a situation. They used to call it. They
Speaker 2: called him tragic. He had a chance to win the game,
Speaker 2: he drove the time out. They lost it over time.
Speaker 2: He was a two time finals MVP. So frans are
Speaker 2: gonna turn Look, I don't care what you've done, or.
Speaker 5: They'll turn on your quick man. They're turning you quick.
Speaker 5: Their layercy is not with you. The loyalcy is there
Speaker 5: with too, simply because you're a part.
Speaker 2: Of the team.
Speaker 5: The roof for Yeah, that that's it, and that that
Speaker 5: is it.
Speaker 2: I just think the Thingyes, he came out, he had
Speaker 2: to come out much better. Just ad I'm devastating, guys.
Speaker 2: We had an opportunity to tie this game up, like
Speaker 2: our chances from that point on, and just left it.
Speaker 2: But Ojo, you can't run. You can't run. You don't
Speaker 2: have to say anything.
Speaker 5: It ain't about running.
Speaker 2: No, o Joe, You've got to speak after the media.
Speaker 2: Let mess your question. Had he called had he called
Speaker 2: it and they won? Do you think Mark Andrews would
Speaker 2: a sports Yah? Yeah, yeah, oh he did he Why
Speaker 2: you said he don't have to speak? Oh? I mean.
Speaker 4: You know I'm saying write that that written letter that
Speaker 4: like the like we've got that's nothing necessary you got, Ojo.
Speaker 2: This is why I'm a firm believer. You have to
Speaker 2: be able to handle adversity the same way you're Yeah, prosperity.
Speaker 2: I didn't success.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't realize. He didn't speak to the media.
Speaker 2: He didn't speak, he didn't speak after the game, and
Speaker 2: he didn't speak in the excident. Yeah.
Speaker 4: See ye, I mean, but the whole the letter thing,
Speaker 4: that's like, yeah, I ain't writing no letter. I ain't
Speaker 4: no point for all of that, man, I mean I
Speaker 4: might write that thing to my boot thing. He had
Speaker 4: a great season, Mark And yeah, Mark Anthony dropped full
Speaker 4: passes this season.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 4: He dropped or passes all year long. It just so
Speaker 4: happened they came at the wrong time, two of them. Yes,
Speaker 4: came at the wrong time. Yes, you know it happens, though,
Speaker 4: O Joe.
Speaker 2: I think after that.
Speaker 4: First drop, you know, everything else was in his head
Speaker 4: after that.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Even on the first drop, they
Speaker 2: would not have got to touch down, so we can't
Speaker 2: hold that agains him. They scored on that. If it
Speaker 2: looks at the end of the game, this is what
Speaker 2: everybody remembers the fumble. Buffalo went down and got points
Speaker 2: out of that, the two point conversion. You know they
Speaker 2: weren't able to get the on side. Now there was
Speaker 2: a minute in thirty three seconds with two timeouts. Now
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to ask your defense. We'll never know.
Speaker 2: Maybe the defense gets a turnover and they score and
Speaker 2: they win the game. Maybe ay they go down and
Speaker 2: and and and and battle and Buffalo kick a field
Speaker 2: goal and they win the game thirty to twenty seven.
Speaker 2: We'll never know. But you have to be able to
Speaker 2: handle You have to be able to handle adversus the
Speaker 2: same way you have the success, because it's not what
Speaker 2: happens to you that that determines what what do you
Speaker 2: do once that happens to you? And I believe Mark
Speaker 2: Andrews is made of the right stuff. You don't have
Speaker 2: the success that he's had in this league. He's been
Speaker 2: an All Pro, he's been a Pro Bowl player, he's
Speaker 2: been Lamar Jackson's most reliable weapon since he's been in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: We can't we there's no denying that. And Jay Flowers
Speaker 2: had an unbelievable season, but since Lamar's been there, and
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews has been there. Mark Andrews has been his
Speaker 2: most reliable weapon. And I can imagine I owed to you.
Speaker 2: I've been there. I dropped the pass that would have
Speaker 2: given the Broncos home field throughout the playoffs. I just say,
Speaker 2: if I'm ever in that situation again, ain't happening. Well
Speaker 2: five years, six year later, I'm in that situation thirty eight,
Speaker 2: in the situation in Baltimore thirty and eighteen, Mark, I
Speaker 2: promise you you come back and make a play next
Speaker 2: year to win a game, win a playoff game. Just
Speaker 2: keep your head up. Bro, You're strong, You're a great player.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be up there with all the other grades,
Speaker 2: with the Ray Lewis's and the Sons and Ed Reeds,
Speaker 2: the Peter bowl Wells and the Mike mcquarie, the Jonathan Ogdens.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be up there, all right. You're gonna be
Speaker 2: up there. Yep, You're gonna be okay, So pick your
Speaker 2: head up. I know it's hurting. I know it hurts, Bro.
Speaker 2: I know it hurts because of the finality of it. Man,
Speaker 2: what could have been. You're so close. But Bro, you'll
Speaker 2: be okay. I promise you're gonna be okay, and it's tough.
Speaker 2: You know, all your teammate say, oh Joe, they try
Speaker 2: to tell you the right thing, man. You know, man,
Speaker 2: hey man, it ain't your fault. We went together. We
Speaker 2: lose together, but singlely that now, bro, not that this
Speaker 2: was on you, that's the way. But Pee, that was
Speaker 2: different with us because I remember we we lost to
Speaker 2: the Giants on Joe in ninety at ninety eight. We
Speaker 2: were thirteen, we were thirteen and three, played on a Saturday,
Speaker 2: and we take the lead. We weren't playing well. TV
Speaker 2: was really sick. But TV gave us an our standing
Speaker 2: ether and I think T might have had one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty yards. TV was sensational. Man, they go eighty
Speaker 2: seven yards to three plays. Man, we get on the bus,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody head down. I walked about to do
Speaker 2: the game. That touched down, like you coacht. This just
Speaker 2: underfeated Caesar, damn.
Speaker 6: Damn.
Speaker 2: Huh oh yeah oh yeah, oh oh yeah. We were
Speaker 2: like that, oh Yoe, yeah for sure, ye Lee yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh Tim mackay, I said, oh yeah, you like to
Speaker 2: cost us you like, hey, you like to fell out
Speaker 2: like you did in Pittsburgh. Mm hmmm no, oh no,
Speaker 2: uh but we had but oh Joe, we had that
Speaker 2: type of relationship with the guys. Oh we had no problem.
Speaker 2: You drop a past or, you gave up something, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you had no Oh yeah, you gonna hear about it,
Speaker 2: yoh yeah, oh yeah, for sure, for sure. But you
Speaker 2: a me and Burns. That was. Oh, we're gonna keep
Speaker 2: your humble old, oh especially old till you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You gave up plays in the game, become practice, you.
Speaker 5: Dim you do that in the game.
Speaker 2: Oh you got me, you got me locked up? You
Speaker 2: up there talking, You're doing this all in my faith?
Speaker 2: Why did you do that on Sunday? Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Hey we could let We can't let hey, we can't
Speaker 2: let you get too high. We got to keep you
Speaker 2: right here. We gotta keep you right here. Because if
Speaker 2: we keep you right here, oh yo, we know we
Speaker 2: can have you. You start feeling good about yourself and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you start bull driving. Now we
Speaker 2: gotta keep your level and so uh yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: wrote it. I wouldn't have written no letter me personally.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, that's him now, that's how he handled it.
Speaker 2: I would have been mad enough to would have been
Speaker 2: mad enough to stand up there in front of the U. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I let my team down today. I did. If somebody
Speaker 2: would have told me I was gonna have an opportunity
Speaker 2: to atone for the fumble right by catching a two
Speaker 2: part conversion and giving our team an opportunity to pretend,
Speaker 2: let me take this thing to overtime. A chance. That's
Speaker 2: all I could ask for. All you want is an
Speaker 2: opportunity to put to be in that situation, because a
Speaker 2: lot of times, oh Joe, you don't even get an
Speaker 2: opportunity to be in that situation right to catch a
Speaker 2: game changing plate or game winning plate.
Speaker 4: Moments like that come come around every so often. Every
Speaker 4: so often, though it don't happen all It don't happen
Speaker 4: all the time. Now, it's yes, fortunate enough because of
Speaker 4: the team he's playing for, they're going to always be
Speaker 4: in contention, and he's going to always be making players
Speaker 4: for Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 5: Yes, so he's gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be all right. Victory goes to the man
Speaker 2: that's prepared. Luck. They call it the volume