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Speaker 2: The Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson has agreed to a

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Speaker 2: deal to become the Chicago bears next head coach. Johnson

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Speaker 2: has been the Lions offensive coordinator for the past three seasons,

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Speaker 2: and if I'm not mistaken, I think they finish in

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Speaker 2: the top five in offense each of those seasons. Who

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Speaker 2: will feel the job vacated by Matt Eberflus when they

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Speaker 2: fired him on November twenty nine. Johnson will become the

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Speaker 2: five year franchise existence. Ojo, Do you like the hip

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Speaker 2: you God? Damn right.

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Speaker 4: I like the height you God damn right. Now, listen,

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Speaker 4: we talked about Ben Johnson. Now this we talk about

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson. That worked wonders with Jared Goff, worked wonders

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Speaker 4: offensively with that offense. The creativity that is amazed all

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Speaker 4: of us all season long. Now you know Dan Campbell

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Speaker 4: loves to go fourth on fourth down.

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Speaker 2: Why do you.

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Speaker 4: Think he's so confident in doing some of the things

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Speaker 4: and what he's able to do. So I look at

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Speaker 4: it from this standpoint. You got Jameson Williams, you got

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Speaker 4: a mine, Ross Saint Brown, you got the porter. Now

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Speaker 4: you go to another support of cast in Chicago that

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Speaker 4: hef his skill sets, but.

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Speaker 5: They get the job done very well.

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Speaker 2: Right. You have a great.

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Speaker 4: Quarterback, dual threat quarterback who's a little bit more mobile,

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Speaker 4: a little bit more agile, can playoff script a little

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Speaker 4: better than golf and Kadin Williams. He's a good thrower

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Speaker 4: of the ball as well. This is going to be

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Speaker 4: a perfect relationship not only for Ben Johnson, but for

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Speaker 4: Kenny william in his career. I guarantee you and I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna put it out there right now, and it's gonna

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Speaker 4: told you so, Williams being one of the top quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: Watch. I like the high. Yeah, I like the high.

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Speaker 2: But what I don't like Chicago and New England doing

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Speaker 2: that fake stuff. Bring black coaches in the Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: they brought Adie George in there. And you know, look,

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Speaker 2: if you you gotta take it. Yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: damn well they won't excuse excuse me. Then you know,

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Speaker 2: good d well, you know good, you know, good d well.

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Speaker 2: You want to Ben Johns, right, but O Joe, hey,

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Speaker 2: the Rooney rule, I got that quota. You got the

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Speaker 2: same thing in New England. New England, y'all brought two black.

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Speaker 2: Y'all brought Pep Hammer to the end. Y'all brought this

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, they have to check the boxes. They

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Speaker 4: got it. They gotta check the boxes, like you said,

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Speaker 5: That's really not working.

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Speaker 2: I ain't got no tea to it. And but look,

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Speaker 2: I like to hire I like Ben Johnson. I like

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Speaker 2: what he did. You mentioned it. He had a quarterback

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Speaker 2: that's more mobile. He has very good Look. You got

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Speaker 2: the Bears. You got DJ Moore that you're signed to

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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen's a free agent, so you probably bring him

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Speaker 2: the year. He's that guy that he's not as fast,

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Speaker 2: the slot, but he gets it done. He got tremendous moves,

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Speaker 2: he got great hands. I like it. Be the big body.

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Speaker 2: He can body you know, he can body you up.

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Speaker 2: So I like that. I like that. I don't really

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Speaker 2: know the running back situation. You're gonna have to prove

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Speaker 2: you look at what they got and Detroit. You know,

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Speaker 2: you got Penny Suell, who's a pro bowler, all Pro.

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Speaker 2: You got Zeitler, you got Deck, you got Glass, now

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Speaker 2: you got Decker, you got ragged, now you got you know,

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Speaker 2: Detroit has a very good offensive line. And so you're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to get that up to part in Chicago

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Speaker 2: because your quarterback took sixty plus sacks. That's too many.

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Speaker 2: O yo, Yeah, that's way too many sacks. Now, all

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Speaker 2: of it is not on the offensive line, Caleb, Wi'm

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Speaker 2: I think, God, they get caught up. O yo, Well

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna mess up completion percentage. Bro, throw that damn

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Speaker 2: ball away. You don't want to be taking all those hits, right,

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Speaker 2: But I like the high. I'm sure they got they

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Speaker 2: improve this team. I love the hire by Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 2: I got no qualms about that high. Uh. He's put

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Speaker 2: as an offensive coach. I think it was right. It

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Speaker 2: So I really, I really like the high. I'm a

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Speaker 2: little surprised that he went in the same division. Uh

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Speaker 2: as if formal boss normally they get they get away,

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Speaker 2: oh Joe. But hey, that was the best situation. I

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Speaker 2: always thought that the Bears. For me, that was the

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Speaker 2: ain't nothing to work over there. He ain't got no quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you understood that that was that was the

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Speaker 4: best fit, especially for him and what he brings to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was the best. I thought that

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Speaker 2: the Jets, you got the Jets situation. You got a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff stuff going on with the Jets. One

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Speaker 2: of the whatever whatever one of the job is available,

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Speaker 2: O Joe. The Jets was available. The Saints, the Saints

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Speaker 2: I know, I think you know he obviously a played

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Speaker 2: hopefully he gets one of these jobs. But it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be tough without a quarterback. You gotta find a quarterback

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Speaker 2: on Joe. Without that, you don't really have a chance

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Speaker 5: At Lisa's gonna be short. Lisa is very short. If

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Speaker 2: Quarterback, well, ill leased is short anyway. But anyway, that's

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Speaker 2: not what that we We're talking about that another day. Uh,

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Speaker 2: but I like to hire I like Ben Johnson High

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Speaker 2: Chicago should be good. That's a very tough division on Joe. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you got young. We'll we'll see what Minnesota does with

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Speaker 2: keep elevate? JJ McCarthy gonna be very interesting because you

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Speaker 2: got Jordan Love, you got golf, you got Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: So like Cowboys have officially hired Brian Schottenheimer, who was

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Speaker 2: buts and I came over here said, oh, Joe, everybody

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Speaker 2: something to smoke screen. Hey, we talked to coach Prime.

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Speaker 2: We go with that, and uh the Cowboys. Notably, they

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Speaker 2: I don't want anybody to think that I have a

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Speaker 2: problem with the hire. But don't give me this bull job.

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Speaker 2: You want somebody that called plays Mike McCarthy call plays

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Speaker 2: We want somebody that called plays. Brian Schottenheimer has never

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Speaker 2: been a head coach. He didn't call plays. That's neither

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Speaker 4: Obviously, Jerry wants to continue continue his reign with power.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to relinquish that power.

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Speaker 4: He wants to be in control of everything, and he

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Speaker 4: hired a coach that will fall in line.

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Speaker 2: With just that, baby and break and bring you know whatever, Joe,

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Speaker 2: not to cut you off, bring Jason Whitne. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely.

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Speaker 4: So again Jerry getting in the way again, doing things

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Speaker 4: his way, and the definition of insanity, Chat, you stayed,

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Speaker 4: stay with me now.

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Speaker 1: The definition of insanity.

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Speaker 4: Is doing things over and over and over in the

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Speaker 4: have been the same for years, for years, and you

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Speaker 4: continuously do it. Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy. Now, mister Schottenheimer,

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Speaker 4: nothing is going to change until you remove yourself and

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Speaker 4: get out the way.

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Speaker 1: And allow people to do their job. Not you trying

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Speaker 1: to do again, not you trying to do multiple things

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Speaker 2: now Brian Schottenheimer, all of them. Nothing. It's just different names,

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Speaker 4: Will any of them challenge Jerry anything?

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Speaker 2: My point exactly, and you let him feel your staff

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Speaker 2: to be on your offensive staff. No coaches is gonna

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Speaker 2: That's if it's one thing, Joe. I go to a

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let you tell me where you got

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Speaker 2: to keep this VP or you got to keep this CFO,

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Speaker 2: that ain't happening me. But this hurt another thing, Ojo. Now,

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Speaker 2: one other team attempted to interview Brian Scheinheimer. Now, all

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Speaker 2: I want to know is this, look, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: me somebody somebody else won't cause if don't nobody else wanted.

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Speaker 2: That's something you tried to tell me something I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, you gotta think about it. Think about it now.

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Speaker 1: Look at the elephant in the room now.

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Speaker 4: The coaches that were available, we talk about good coaches,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't go for the Shenanigans.

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Speaker 1: You think Ben Johnson gonna stand down. You're gonna tell

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Speaker 4: Who we can bring on and who we can Aaron Glynn,

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Speaker 4: I mean obviously he wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't get the job anyway. You think Amaron Glenn

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Speaker 4: You're gonna tell Aaron Glynn what type of staff he

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Speaker 2: But people believe he could work with Coach Belichick. Can

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Speaker 2: you imagine him telling Coach Belichick, Hey, I want Jason

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Speaker 2: You waited, man, Man Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Man Belichick is ted.

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Speaker 4: That goddamn ted Jerry's world down.

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Speaker 1: You have to get out of your own way. You

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Speaker 2: He's been an offensive coordinator before, he's with the Jets

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Speaker 2: for three years. His highest point is highest points per game.

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Speaker 2: They were thirteenth. He called for Saint Louis. The highest

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Speaker 2: His highest points per game was six. In twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 2: he had two three top ten offenses. As far as points,

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Speaker 2: he averaged eight point seven, twenty five point three, twenty

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Speaker 2: So he's been a coordinator. He's been a coordinator for

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Speaker 2: eleven years. Had some success. Uh orchestrated three top ten

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Speaker 2: He was with the but he wasn't co coordinated or

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Speaker 2: He's so he was there with with Rex. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: So we know those offenses back then, Oh Joe was

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Speaker 2: more ground than pound. But his most success it came

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Speaker 2: in Seattle. He did have great success in Seattle with

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Speaker 2: we know why he got the job. It's because Jerry

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Speaker 2: wants someone that he can control. It's really that simple.

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Speaker 2: There's no other I'm not gonna make it a black

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Speaker 2: It's a control issue. Jerry wants control. Jerry wants control

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Speaker 2: because Jerry wants credit. None of the blame, but the control.

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Speaker 2: Because this thing fell apart, I can't believe this happened.

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked, is anybody No, you're not shocked as anybody

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Speaker 2: you put this is together, you should be the least

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Speaker 2: shock that it fell apart. But like you said, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you do what you've done, you get what you've always gotten.

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Speaker 2: It's hard for me to believe I can build a scenario.

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Speaker 2: At some point in time, I'm going to change something

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Speaker 2: if I do, if I get the same results for

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Speaker 2: thirty years and my objective. But Jerry's a promoter, Jerry's

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Speaker 2: not trying to win. Jerry's fool not food to meat.

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Speaker 2: He might fool some of the fans in Dallas, and

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Speaker 2: I think for the most part they've even caught on.

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Speaker 2: Jerry's all about selling. Jery looks at it like anytime

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Speaker 2: they're talking about me, that's good enough. We don't need

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Speaker 2: they don't need to talk about be being that they're

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Speaker 2: enough for him, and I don't see it changing. They

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Speaker 2: bring back the same cast. If you look at guys

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Speaker 2: to the Rams. I'm just saying they make a trade

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Speaker 2: he might have had four catches the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, man, listen, I don't I don't know what Jerry.

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Speaker 4: Jerry is doing. I can't question it. I've been around

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Speaker 4: football for a very long time, obviously, not as long

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Speaker 4: as you have, and not as long as he has.

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Speaker 4: He's an owner, he's a GM hell, he's every goddamn thing.

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Speaker 4: He just thinks his way always works, and the fact

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Speaker 2: Eagle, anybody going to the championship.

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Speaker 1: Since you don't see any of the owners.

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Speaker 4: work well with. I mean, all that, all that matters,

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Speaker 4: All that matters, and the fact that control and credit

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Speaker 1: Wants is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: But if you Jerry has Jerry has probably let's get

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Speaker 2: he owned ten other businesses. How many of those businesses

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Speaker 2: you think he hads on Probably not none because he

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Speaker 1: But he's been around football the longest, so he feels.

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Speaker 4: Like he knows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been around apploud, it doesn't make me a tractor.

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Speaker 2: Hell you talking about it? Just call you around something. Hey.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Oh Joe, I'm sleeping my

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Speaker 2: Hell O, Joe, if somebody gonna give me all the note,

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Speaker 2: if somebody gonna give me the scouting report, I can

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Speaker 2: read off what they wrote down. You think, Jered going

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Speaker 2: got his no pad like, Okay, guy got great pad level,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he don't know. Hell not detail like that.

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Speaker 2: Hell no. But there are guys that do. What's the

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Speaker 2: what's the guy name that runs the Cowboys? Will Will mcclayton,

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Speaker 2: Will Clayton, he knows. He writes the notes, gives him

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Speaker 2: to Jerry, and then Jerry and they have a little selection. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: And who do we think is gonna be available when

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Speaker 2: a list of names. Everybody have their faull Jered, this

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Speaker 2: Brouh Michael Parson's fail in your Lap You ain't do

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Speaker 2: nothing CD fail in the Lap? Come on, bro, that

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Speaker 2: ain't nothing. They failed to you. They had an agreement

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Speaker 2: Davontae's mill. The Eagles wanted davonte'smil that's like, hey, we'll

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Speaker 2: trade up. Just don't bother him. We'll let y'all trade. Okay,

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Speaker 2: why just don't select Parsons or you're not gonna select Parson.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna take Davonte, right, Okay, boom CD fail in

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Speaker 2: their lap. All the other receivers were gone, so who

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Speaker 2: Judy was gone, Rudd's was gone, Wada was gone. Wow,

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Speaker 2: he really went out a limb and got ZD. I

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Speaker 2: my bad? No, yeah, because you Jalen Record.

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Speaker 4: Went before City went to the Philly right Billy?

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Speaker 2: Yes, so o Cho, that ain't nothing. If a guy

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Speaker 2: just fall in your lap. No, you want to impress me.

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Speaker 2: Do what Kansas City did. Zoom up the draft board

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Speaker 2: and go get somebody. That's what's impressive. That lets me know, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I just don't get it. Mingo had seventeen catches for

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Speaker 2: five catches for sixty four yards when he arrived in Dallas,

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Speaker 2: and he played eight games, played nine for Carolina, and

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Speaker 2: they traded a fourth round pick for him, right fourth

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Speaker 4: He doesn't know what he's doing. He may do, yes,

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Speaker 4: it's it's almost it's it's it's hold on.

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Speaker 2: Listen with did hold on? Hold Joe? Did Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 2: He went twenty second? Oh so you so you went CD?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But I don't know very many people that's taking

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Speaker 2: take Chase in Jena. They won two. Both of those

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Speaker 2: But Jared don't know what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, I don't got no problem with

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Speaker 2: Brian shat and high. I'm just saying this notion that

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Speaker 2: let me tell you what. Brian Shott and Hobber doesn't

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Speaker 1: And all those are things that the head coach should

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Speaker 2: Just basically almost like, I guess what if they still

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Speaker 2: You try to tell me what I want. I know

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00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: what I want Jerry is that this is an arrange marriage.

431
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 2: Jerry is telling you he's picking players, telling you what

432
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: you need as opposed to what you want or what

433
00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: would best or or what would fit best to the system. Now,

434
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: is them coming back? I mean I had the as

435
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 2: far as I know. See that's another thing. What if

436
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: Brian shot and hiber Water High is on DC.

437
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: Now that's that's that's crazy. I mean, listen, it's crazy

438
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: the way things are wrung. Obviously, Jerry has the power.

439
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: We understand that he's going to.

440
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: Exercise that right and that power at every turn and every.

441
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 4: Chance he gets, every chance and every turn Terry gets,

442
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 4: he's killing he's killing his own franchise, he's killing his

443
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 4: own key.

444
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll was hired as head coach of the Raiders.

445
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll's and the Raiders have reached agreement on a

446
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: three year deal with a team option for fourth. When

447
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: the regular season start, Carroll will become the oldest person

448
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: to ever serve as head coach in the NFL. He

449
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 2: turned seventy four in September. The previous record was held

450
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: by Romeo Cridinal, who was seventy three when he served

451
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: the interim head coach of the Houston Texans. Oh Joe,

452
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: do you like this one?

453
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 4: It's peak, It's Pete Carroll. I like Pete Carroll. Pete's resume,

454
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: you know, it speaks for herself what he's done. He's

455
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl winning head coach. Again, when I look

456
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 4: at what he has to work with over in Las Vegas,

457
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: I'm not sure why he would want to. Maybe he

458
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 4: knows something we don't know. Maybe he knows something, you know,

459
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: he has something cooking.

460
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: What you what he wants?

461
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

462
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 4: I know, But still, I mean, just just going to

463
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 4: take a job knowing that your least is going to

464
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 4: be short, knowing that you don't have the most.

465
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: Important position on your team.

466
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 4: On that team that matters to be able to compete

467
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: and contend, and that do you know what conference division

468
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: he's in?

469
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: Yes, YC West, Broncos, Chargers, Charge. Yeah, all of them

470
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: got quarterbacks, everybody got quarterbacks whatever greatly.

471
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure that he got to be thinking

472
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: about something. Must be cooking up something with Mark Davis.

473
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

474
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this and Chad, y'all can help me.

475
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: You understand, you're seventy years old. This thirty two year

476
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: old things. She nine got long hair, she got ooh skin,

477
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: built stacked like dirty laundry in the door, then her

478
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: down the back, and when she stepped, he'll stepple. Y'all

479
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. She'll stepper. Y'all will see. She's

480
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: gonna have a wire sell, she'll have old tom Ford,

481
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: she'll have on them blood bottoms. Everything is, everything is immaculate,

482
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: and she's interested in you. You taking that. Pete Carroll

483
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: said about to be seventy four, how many jobs? And

484
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: you think he gonna get in the NFL at the

485
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: age of seventy with it?

486
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: I like to listen when you put it like that,

487
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,239
Speaker 1: when you give me that kind of analogy, I like him.

488
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: You going with it. But everything you just said, you know,

489
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: you talk about tom Ford, you know, yeah, you know

490
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: the nice shoes and she's a stepper.

491
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 4: Well, everything you just describing that woman ain't the goddamn

492
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 4: Las Vegas Raiders. It don't go together, you know. Now,

493
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 4: the lost the Las Vegas Raiders is the one where

494
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 4: your homeboys saying, hey boy, I ain't sharp. I need

495
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 4: to want to take them for the team tonight. Now

496
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 4: the one I got, you know, she's a team now her.

497
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: Friend, she says, she had to bring her friend with her.

498
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: Now a friend is on the six. But you're gonna

499
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: take on.

500
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 2: Us.

501
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: It's like like getting getting ready to be the head

502
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: coach for the Chiefs or something.

503
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: But you have to understand the o jo. She's so interesting.

504
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: She ain't got to have on nothing. She might come

505
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: out the house with crops. She might come out the

506
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: house with that bonnet on, but she's thirty two.

507
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: Who curry.

508
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: Let me let me give the visuals together. Now, how

509
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 4: tall are we talking? How tall we talking?

510
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: She's somewhere between she somewhere between five seven and five nine.

511
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'm gonna do I'm gonna do you one better.

512
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do you one better because we both we

513
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: both talked, let's just make a just just make a five, five, five, nine,

514
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: five ten. So when she put some when you put

515
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: some heels on, we call an amazon.

516
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: Thirty two got a nice job. She makes six figures,

517
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: low six figures. When you see how she ain't got

518
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: nothing on that she carried. She carried Louis all the time.

519
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: She got her own, got her own crib, got her

520
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: own car.

521
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 4: And you gotta be careful now because because everything you

522
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: describe right now as a woman.

523
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: She talked back, that's okay. I listened, she talked, I listen.

524
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what you talking about, O Joe. Hey,

525
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: I about to be fifty self. Man, I hafit of

526
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: you all that I passed that stage, O Joe? What

527
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: I got to? Where the past? And I get he's

528
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: gotta be by way. Oh no, she talked back, and yo, yo,

529
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: you know what. You're right. I didn't want to go

530
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: over there. Why didn't you tell me this yesterday?

531
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: I like it. I like I listen, I understand you

532
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: at this is a different phase in life. You under

533
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: you have to understand you don't have to fight guy it's.

534
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: Not like he Ben Johnson. See, yeah, Tom Brady wanted

535
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, I ain't got no quarterback. Yeah, ideally,

536
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: would I like to be in the same division. No,

537
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: But I got a quarterback over here. I got skill

538
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: position player over here. I got a lot of cap

539
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: space and I can build. Guess what, I got a

540
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: quarterback on a rookie contract, so I could put some

541
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: pieces around him.

542
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: You got, you got a little time, got by two more.

543
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: Years, got two more years. So with that being said,

544
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: O Joe, but Pete being seventy about to be seventy four,

545
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: think about it. In the history of the game, there's

546
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: only one other coach. Romeo was seventy three, and he

547
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: was introl. Wasn't had he wasn't you know that wasn't

548
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: Somebody hired him and gave him the job. He just

549
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: took over. So for me, it was for for for Pete,

550
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: it's a no brainer. Now Pete can't build a team.

551
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: We saw what he did with Seattle. But Russ came

552
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: to him in the third round. I think Russ was

553
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: a third round draft pick, and we saw what happened.

554
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: They had a great defense. They built that thing. They

555
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: had be wagged. They had Sharon, they had Chancellor, they

556
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 2: had Earl, they had Malcolm Smith, they had Bennett, they

557
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: had Cliff April, they had Red, they had a squad.

558
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: Russ come in. Remember now, they assigned Matt Flynn in

559
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: free agency from Green Bay. He was expected. They gave

560
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: him ten million dollars guaranteed, had a thirty million dollar contract,

561
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: ten million dollars signing bonus, and he never touched the field.

562
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: Russ Beady Mountain Camp.

563
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: Crazy, how that world?

564
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: Hey? And maybe they can, maybe they can, maybe he

565
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: can strike lightning. He under see the thing is o joe.

566
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: He understands. He's been ahead coach of the different stops.

567
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: He's head coach at the Jets. He's head coach at

568
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: the Patriots, head coach at Seattle, head coach here, head

569
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: coach at USC. And you look at what he did.

570
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: USC was USC was not winning before Pete got there.

571
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: He put USC back on map. Now you not old

572
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: enough to remember when USC had that juggernaut late sixties

573
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: and the through the seventies. They were hell they were loaded, yes, yes, yes, yes,

574
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean you got to think about it. They had

575
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: Charles White and Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, Joey

576
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: Browner Ross, all the all those guys. So they were

577
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: they were really Lynn Kine, all those guys were in

578
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: that backfield, they were really, they were really good munyos. Yeah.

579
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: I think Don mose Bar was on that team. They were,

580
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: they were, they were loaded. But Pete knows how to

581
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: build a team. But at the end of the day,

582
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: if you look at the teams when he's had his best,

583
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: most recess, always it matters and without him. So Russell Russ,

584
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: Pete reunite in open I mean, Eman Russ, Russell Wilson.

585
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: That's a good one. That's a good That's a good one.

586
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: I like, I like, I like what you're thinking. That's

587
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: a possibility. I'm not I'm not sure. I am not sure.

588
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: Damn.

589
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: That's a good one. A quarterback that you're familiar with,

590
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: a quarterback that you want a super Bowl with, you know.

591
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: But there were some there were some issues internally.

592
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: It got you want to go there, like, nah, bro,

593
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: I see the people like I see diminishing skills. Nah bro.

594
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: I I ain't really trying to give you two hundred

595
00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: plus Russey bro I And you know, hey, spend the box. Yeah, yep,

596
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: you know some type of thing be so bad on you.

597
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: Youn't got a choice, but I don't. That ain't what

598
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: that ain't what I said out, But sometimes.

599
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: You have to do.

600
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: You know that half your age plus seven minus three.

601
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: So that's where I come forward. That's that's you know,

602
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: that's my box. Yes, I stay right here, on Joe,

603
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: I ain't going out part of it, you know, side

604
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: to side, side to side, right here, But I ain't

605
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: going outside that box. Okay, maybe, hey, you know who

606
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: it is. Maybe you know what I'm talking about. You

607
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: know you dog talking about O Joe. You know I

608
00:33:53,720 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: say the aid sometime you know a uh like hey boy,

609
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: age twenty seven thirty seven.

610
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: Different, it's different. Listen.

611
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: You know it's good.

612
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: You know it's good about us is really understanding and

613
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: realizing we're not.

614
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: Yes, we're not the same as we were as we want.

615
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 4: No, we understand what we're capable of doing at our

616
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 4: age now the thing we did not in our teens

617
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: in twenties and thirties.

618
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: Man, we ain't pulling that. We're not pulling that shit

619
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: off at.

620
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: This No, no, no, why I ain't the look I ain't.

621
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: I ain't for the grab, no twenty five year old

622
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: like I could when I was thirty two, thirty three.

623
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: I already know that right now, Oh Joe, I'm when

624
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: I can, not when I want to. You see what

625
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Oh Yoe, I'm when I can't, not when

626
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: I want to. Understand that yet understable stay we will

627
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: not stay with it. There's a difference between the two.

628
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what you got? You got

629
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: self awareness.

630
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: Awareness is so important, but it's lacking in so many,

631
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: so many of our men today.

632
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: It's lacking in so many of our life things.

633
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: You can keep up and do some of the things

634
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: you did when you no.

635
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm hey, Hey, I'm who I am about to be

636
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: eight six months fifty seven. Now I don't look it.

637
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: I still I'm in shave, you know. I eat my

638
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: vedges and do my alms. But hey, at the end

639
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: of the day, they hit that Google, Damn, damn. Fifty

640
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: fifty salm, yeah, uh fifty salmn. Hey, Hey, oh Joe,

641
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: you know sometime you have to, Hey, catch a straggler

642
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: come out of the supermarket. You know what. I'm there,

643
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm lead.

644
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: On the list.

645
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Speaker 2: I'm leading on the wall, waiting on.

646
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: It's a ninth. It's the ninth is two strikes and

647
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: three balls. What you're gonna do now? On a quarter

648
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: to a two minutes? Two minute drive?

649
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: Hey? While, hey, you sit in your car for a

650
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: little while. Watch you go in and out? Okay? Hey,

651
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: oh Joe, she looks as desperate as I am. The

652
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars finalizing a deal to hire Bucks offensive coordinator

653
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: Lim Cohen as their next head coach. The move comes

654
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: after Cohen agreed to an extension with the Buccaneers and

655
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: removed himself from the consideration for the Jags job. Cohen

656
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: met with Jaguars on Thursday to discuss the vacancy, despite

657
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: the news of his return to Jampa, which would have

658
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: made him the highest paid coordinator in NFL history. Jacksonville

659
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: reportedly reached out to Coin after the team fired Trent

660
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: Bauki to see if he would reconsider the offer, and

661
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: after their talks, it appears Jacksonville has their guy.

662
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 5: Well, I like it.

663
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: I like it.

664
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Speaker 4: And the fact that the fact that he chose to

665
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: leave even though the Bucks were gonna make him the

666
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: highest paid off as the coordinator.

667
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: You know they gonna make it by de gonna make

668
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: more than we were gonna make our Jacks. How you

669
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: figure he gonna make at least seven million dollars with

670
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: the Jags, the highest paid cortinator probably make you make

671
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: three million dollars. We remember we just talked about Spagnola

672
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: making No, that's that's what I'm just saying.

673
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: But if they if they, if they're telling him to

674
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 4: leave the job, we want you to reconsider. I'm sure

675
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 4: allow him to set the market on whatever it is.

676
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: No, they're gonna ask him to know, the Jags ask

677
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: him to reconsider, so they're gonna give him a head

678
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: coaching job, which would probably be somewhere around seven million.

679
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers was only gonna give him three

680
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: million million.

681
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, not just saying said, okay, I had

682
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: him backwards, but I knew he was leaping law Jacksonville.

683
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: Nobody. Yes, absolutely, And and look and you're over everything.

684
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 2: You're you know, you're responsible. I mean, the head coach

685
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: comes with a lot of responsibilities. You're not You're not

686
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: responsible for one side of the ball, You're responsible for

687
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: the whole ball. Offense, defense, special teams. When we're gonna practice.

688
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: What time we're gonna meet? Okay, what's the uh, what's

689
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: the the training? You know what I'm saying. As far

690
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: as weight schedule, okay, and your player? What time did

691
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 2: it have to be there? How long the meeting's gonna

692
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: laugh last? What time are we gonna leave Ohoe for

693
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: road trips where we're gonna stay? All that goes on

694
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: the head coaches, So congratulations. I mean I hated for

695
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: Baker because Baker had really under his guidance, Yep, he

696
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: was Baker. Baker had. Baker had looked like the Baker

697
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: that they took. That the reason why they took it

698
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: with the number one overall pick I thanked in twenty sixteen.

699
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: The last two years he showed you why. And a

700
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: lot of that had to do, I believe had to

701
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 2: do with Lim Cohen. Not to say Baker doesn't have talent,

702
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: because obviously you go first overall you got talent, But

703
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: I think he had found someone that believed in him,

704
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: that had an offense that was really catered to what

705
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: he does really well. He had nice quality receivers outside

706
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: with Mike Evis. Even though Chris Godwin got hurt this year,

707
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 2: the young guys had come along. I love the running

708
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: backs that they got, but I hate this. I hate

709
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: this for Baker, But I'm excited for someone to get

710
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: an opportunity to be a Hey coach because Hey, last

711
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: two years, he's done a great job as an OC

712
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: for Tampa and he's getting rewarded for his hard work.

713
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's dope.

714
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: So what do you think, O Joe?

715
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: You liked him absolutely, absolutely, Listen if he can do,

716
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: if he can do, if he can do an he

717
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 4: did for Baker, imagine we will do for Trevor Lawrence.

718
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield had Mike Evans. Now young Young Bullets has

719
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: stood over there in Jacksonville. Now, Chat, I don't know

720
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 4: if you paid attention to Brian, Tom and Junior, but

721
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: he's the reason he's in the Pro Bowl. Here's a

722
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: reason he's in the Pro Bowl. So that magic he

723
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: had in Tampa with Baker and Mike Evans has always

724
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: been Mike Evans. But I'm sure he can create that

725
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 4: same magic between Trevor Lawrence and get him turned around.

726
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 5: You know, after getting that huge and Brian had Tom

727
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 5: and Jr.

728
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 4: They were your security blanket right there there, your security

729
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: banker right there, Travis.

730
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, then go your security. Blame your bright Tank Bigsby.

731
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: I think you probably need to do a little bit

732
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: more with the offensive line. Shure that up. I think

733
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: they got a pretty good defense. Maybe look at look

734
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: at a corner, look at it. Look you got a

735
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: high draft pick. You got a quarterback. You don't need

736
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: a quarterback. I wouldn't spend a high draft pick on

737
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. I wouldn't spend a high draft pick

738
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: on a tight end. I don't know if there's anyone

739
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: that's worthy to be selected. Uh, if they're an offensive

740
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: lineman that's worthy of a pick that high, Probably not.

741
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: Maybe a defensive lineman, maybe a dB. But yeah, you

742
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: got Trevor Lawrence, you got Brian Thomas Jr. You got

743
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram, you got Tank Bigsby, you got Trevor at In,

744
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: I mean your every ATN So you got some nice

745
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: quality pieces. But you gotta have to protect You're gonna

746
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: have to protect trev and he's gonna have to do

747
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 2: a job to protect himself. They have the number one pick, right, No,

748
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: Tennessee has the number one pick.

749
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 5: Okay, that means should do the shure do is going first.

750
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: In Jacksonville's at five, So.

751
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: Let me see it's uh Shad will probably go first

752
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: to Tennessee.

753
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 5: The second would.

754
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: Be I think Cleveland's at two.

755
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: Then cam Ward would probably go two. And who are

756
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 4: in New England is three?

757
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: Right? No Giants are three? New England's four, Jacksonville's five.

758
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 5: That might that might be a shocker right there, two

759
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 5: at three.

760
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm the question is what would Tennessee be moving to

761
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: move down? Is there's somebody that's in the draft that

762
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: Tennessee says we must that we must have and we

763
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: don't believe he'll be he'll be available if we slide

764
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 2: down to three, four, five, six, seven. That's the question,

765
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: O Joe. Because the question is if Tennessee one player away,

766
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: O Yoe, or do you de most Okay, If I

767
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: can slide down and get next year's first rounder, get

768
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: a maybe pick up a second or third this year

769
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: and a second and third next year and in twenty seven,

770
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: maybe get a fourth, I think that's the that's the

771
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: best option because I don't think any of these teams

772
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: are one player away. Now. Obviously everybody's not going to

773
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: slide down, But if I can, if I can, if

774
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: I can slide down Ojo and really really really build.

775
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 4: I think I don't see anyone sliding down, especially with

776
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: the players that that that we have one that are

777
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: slotted in the mountin drafts to go top five. I

778
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 4: don't see any team coming out of coming out of those.

779
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: No. I should uh mark draft Ojoe should do Sander's

780
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: one Tennessee Abdual Carter, the edge rusher out of Penn State.

781
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 2: Two cam Ward quarterback out of Miami. Three Travis Hunter,

782
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: the all purpose, all, do it all wide receiver, cornerback

783
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: New England, Mason Graham d lion Michigan, Will Johnson cornerback Michigan,

784
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: Will Campbell, offensive lineman ot Jets. Now this is just

785
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: the marrow. Obviously, clearly Tennessee needs a court now, you know,

786
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: listening there and talk today, there's like, hey, we're willing

787
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: to bring Will Levits back, but kind of informed it

788
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: that there's gonna be competitions.

789
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 5: We know, we know what that means, and maybe that

790
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: be good a good thing for Will. Maybe that would

791
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 5: be a good thing.

792
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: Having someone to help the foreshoempee at a high level,

793
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 4: you know, to force you to minimize your mistakes, because

794
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: you know when you got somebody looking over your shoulder.

795
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 5: They can do two things. They can either make you

796
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 5: or it can break.

797
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 6: You's a lot, that's a lot of that's a lot

798
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 6: of pressure when you know you can't make no mistakes,

799
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 6: when you're trying to play mistake free football, then you

800
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 6: start to press, you start rest.

801
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 5: Let me listen. That ain't a good thing. It depends

802
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 5: on how he's built mentally.

803
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: I agree. I think the thing is old, Joe, is

804
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: that ap did a disservice to the Raiders by winning

805
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: that game, because this slid down from one all the

806
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: way to six. So there's a possibility that you could, look,

807
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: you can lose out on cam Ward and your door.

808
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 5: Listen, listen on in the war room, you never know

809
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 5: what's going to happen. You never know what goes on.

810
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 4: They have those phones in there for a reason, so

811
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 4: maybe something may happen, you know, before the draft, or

812
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 4: you during the draft, and maybe somebody comes up and

813
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 4: snatches the player that they want.

814
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 5: On their board to make sure he doesn't get away.

815
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: Well, they really don't have a whole lot of draft

816
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: tradable pieces. The one piece they got is Crosby. Max

817
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: Cosby Crosby. That's what That's one piece that everybody would

818
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: be willing to give up a first round pick or

819
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: multiple picks. Four. I don't see anybody else on that

820
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: roster that they would be willing to give that up

821
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: for rock Bowers. But they're not trading brock Bios hell no.

822
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: But Max Crosby is the only one that I see

823
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: that has the that has the capital attached to him

824
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: that somebody would be willing to give up. He's the

825
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: most valuable He and brock Buyers are the most valuable pieces. Well,

826
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: clearly they're not trading brock Bowers. But I don't think

827
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 2: the Raiders are one player away.

828
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 5: But they need damn quarterback. That's what they need.

829
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 4: They absolutely need to situation and then you build, you

830
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 4: build her out.

831
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews publicly apologized for dropping the ball on what

832
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: would have been a game time to point conversion. It

833
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: is impossible to adequately express how I feel. I'm absolutely

834
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: gutted by what happened on Sunday. I'm devastated for my teammates,

835
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: my coaches, and Ravens fans. I pour every ounce of

836
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: my being into playing at the highest level possible because

837
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: I love my team, and I love the game of

838
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: football like nothing else. That is why it's taken me

839
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: until now to collect my thoughts and address this publicly.

840
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: Even though the shocking disappointment are unlike anything I've felt before,

841
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: I refuse to let this situation define me. I promise

842
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: that this adverse adversity will only make me stronger and

843
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: fuel us as we move forward. I think everyone that

844
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: has shown me and our team genuine support these past

845
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: several days. Despite the negativity, I've seen heartfelt love and encouragement,

846
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: including from those who have generously donated to the Breakthrough

847
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: T one D organization. Even when the moment seemed darker,

848
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: perspective can reveal that there is still a lot of

849
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: light in this world. I'm not going to do my

850
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: part to bounce back and contribute to it. Hashtag God

851
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 2: bless oh Joe. Was this necessary?

852
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 5: No? No, not at all, Not at all. There's nothing

853
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 5: you can do. There's no point of you know, writing

854
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 5: writing an apology.

855
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: They're ups and downs, their obstacles, they're hurdles any game,

856
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: you know, anybody on the outside of that locker room

857
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: and apology.

858
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 5: You talk to your players, you talk to your teammates,

859
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 5: you talk to your coaches, you know, and you let

860
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 5: them know how you feel.

861
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 4: There's no need you apologizing publicly to everyone that hasn't

862
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 4: put in the work you've done. They're not there in

863
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: training camp with you. They're not their meetings with you. No,

864
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: they're not bleeding with you. They're not going to war

865
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: out there with you. Now, they do support you because

866
00:47:55,080 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 4: they are fans of the team. Any apologies should be

867
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 4: had should be had within that team, to individual players

868
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 4: and nobody else if that's what you see fit in doing.

869
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 5: But that's the births of brotherhood.

870
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: Yes, you know they're not gonna be talk talking trash

871
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: about you, and oh maybe you just no.

872
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: It happens, Oh Choe. I mean I remember Ernest Byner

873
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: and I e B. I know EB. I mean knew

874
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: Eb a long time he was in Baltimore or when

875
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: I was there. It stayed in contact with him. He

876
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 2: form of the ball, he's running into the m zon

877
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: each other. He had a touchdown. They would have put

878
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: the bull to put the Browns in front of the

879
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: Broncos and got pulled it out. It happens. It happens.

880
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: Look at Billy Buckler. The ball went right through his legs. Mhm. Magic.

881
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: Johnson had a situation. They used to call it. They

882
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 2: called him tragic. He had a chance to win the game,

883
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 2: he drove the time out. They lost it over time.

884
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: He was a two time finals MVP. So frans are

885
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: gonna turn Look, I don't care what you've done, or.

886
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 5: They'll turn on your quick man. They're turning you quick.

887
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 5: Their layercy is not with you. The loyalcy is there

888
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 5: with too, simply because you're a part.

889
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: Of the team.

890
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 5: The roof for Yeah, that that's it, and that that

891
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: is it.

892
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: I just think the Thingyes, he came out, he had

893
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 2: to come out much better. Just ad I'm devastating, guys.

894
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: We had an opportunity to tie this game up, like

895
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: our chances from that point on, and just left it.

896
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: But Ojo, you can't run. You can't run. You don't

897
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: have to say anything.

898
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 5: It ain't about running.

899
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 2: No, o Joe, You've got to speak after the media.

900
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: Let mess your question. Had he called had he called

901
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: it and they won? Do you think Mark Andrews would

902
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 2: a sports Yah? Yeah, yeah, oh he did he Why

903
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 2: you said he don't have to speak? Oh? I mean.

904
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: You know I'm saying write that that written letter that

905
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 4: like the like we've got that's nothing necessary you got, Ojo.

906
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: This is why I'm a firm believer. You have to

907
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: be able to handle adversity the same way you're Yeah, prosperity.

908
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: I didn't success.

909
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't realize. He didn't speak to the media.

910
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: He didn't speak, he didn't speak after the game, and

911
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 2: he didn't speak in the excident. Yeah.

912
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: See ye, I mean, but the whole the letter thing,

913
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: that's like, yeah, I ain't writing no letter. I ain't

914
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 4: no point for all of that, man, I mean I

915
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 4: might write that thing to my boot thing. He had

916
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 4: a great season, Mark And yeah, Mark Anthony dropped full

917
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 4: passes this season.

918
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 5: Huh.

919
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: He dropped or passes all year long. It just so

920
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 4: happened they came at the wrong time, two of them. Yes,

921
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: came at the wrong time. Yes, you know it happens, though,

922
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: O Joe.

923
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: I think after that.

924
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 4: First drop, you know, everything else was in his head

925
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 4: after that.

926
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Even on the first drop, they

927
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 2: would not have got to touch down, so we can't

928
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: hold that agains him. They scored on that. If it

929
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: looks at the end of the game, this is what

930
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: everybody remembers the fumble. Buffalo went down and got points

931
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: out of that, the two point conversion. You know they

932
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: weren't able to get the on side. Now there was

933
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: a minute in thirty three seconds with two timeouts. Now

934
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to ask your defense. We'll never know.

935
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: Maybe the defense gets a turnover and they score and

936
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: they win the game. Maybe ay they go down and

937
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 2: and and and and battle and Buffalo kick a field

938
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: goal and they win the game thirty to twenty seven.

939
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: We'll never know. But you have to be able to

940
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 2: handle You have to be able to handle adversus the

941
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: same way you have the success, because it's not what

942
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: happens to you that that determines what what do you

943
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: do once that happens to you? And I believe Mark

944
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: Andrews is made of the right stuff. You don't have

945
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 2: the success that he's had in this league. He's been

946
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 2: an All Pro, he's been a Pro Bowl player, he's

947
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: been Lamar Jackson's most reliable weapon since he's been in Baltimore.

948
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: We can't we there's no denying that. And Jay Flowers

949
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: had an unbelievable season, but since Lamar's been there, and

950
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews has been there. Mark Andrews has been his

951
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: most reliable weapon. And I can imagine I owed to you.

952
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: I've been there. I dropped the pass that would have

953
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: given the Broncos home field throughout the playoffs. I just say,

954
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: if I'm ever in that situation again, ain't happening. Well

955
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: five years, six year later, I'm in that situation thirty eight,

956
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: in the situation in Baltimore thirty and eighteen, Mark, I

957
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: promise you you come back and make a play next

958
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: year to win a game, win a playoff game. Just

959
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: keep your head up. Bro, You're strong, You're a great player.

960
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: You're gonna be up there with all the other grades,

961
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: with the Ray Lewis's and the Sons and Ed Reeds,

962
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: the Peter bowl Wells and the Mike mcquarie, the Jonathan Ogdens.

963
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna be up there, all right. You're gonna be

964
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: up there. Yep, You're gonna be okay, So pick your

965
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: head up. I know it's hurting. I know it hurts, Bro.

966
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: I know it hurts because of the finality of it. Man,

967
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: what could have been. You're so close. But Bro, you'll

968
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: be okay. I promise you're gonna be okay, and it's tough.

969
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: You know, all your teammate say, oh Joe, they try

970
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: to tell you the right thing, man. You know, man,

971
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: hey man, it ain't your fault. We went together. We

972
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: lose together, but singlely that now, bro, not that this

973
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: was on you, that's the way. But Pee, that was

974
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: different with us because I remember we we lost to

975
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: the Giants on Joe in ninety at ninety eight. We

976
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: were thirteen, we were thirteen and three, played on a Saturday,

977
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: and we take the lead. We weren't playing well. TV

978
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: was really sick. But TV gave us an our standing

979
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: ether and I think T might have had one hundred

980
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: and fifty yards. TV was sensational. Man, they go eighty

981
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: seven yards to three plays. Man, we get on the bus,

982
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: you know, everybody head down. I walked about to do

983
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: the game. That touched down, like you coacht. This just

984
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: underfeated Caesar, damn.

985
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 6: Damn.

986
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: Huh oh yeah oh yeah, oh oh yeah. We were

987
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: like that, oh Yoe, yeah for sure, ye Lee yeah.

988
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh Tim mackay, I said, oh yeah, you like to

989
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: cost us you like, hey, you like to fell out

990
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: like you did in Pittsburgh. Mm hmmm no, oh no,

991
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: uh but we had but oh Joe, we had that

992
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: type of relationship with the guys. Oh we had no problem.

993
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: You drop a past or, you gave up something, Oh yeah,

994
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: you had no Oh yeah, you gonna hear about it,

995
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 2: yoh yeah, oh yeah, for sure, for sure. But you

996
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: a me and Burns. That was. Oh, we're gonna keep

997
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: your humble old, oh especially old till you know what

998
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying. You gave up plays in the game, become practice, you.

999
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 5: Dim you do that in the game.

1000
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: Oh you got me, you got me locked up? You

1001
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 2: up there talking, You're doing this all in my faith?

1002
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 2: Why did you do that on Sunday? Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

1003
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: Hey we could let We can't let hey, we can't

1004
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: let you get too high. We got to keep you

1005
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: right here. We gotta keep you right here. Because if

1006
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: we keep you right here, oh yo, we know we

1007
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: can have you. You start feeling good about yourself and

1008
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you start bull driving. Now we

1009
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: gotta keep your level and so uh yeah, I wouldn't

1010
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: wrote it. I wouldn't have written no letter me personally.

1011
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: Oh yo, that's him now, that's how he handled it.

1012
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: I would have been mad enough to would have been

1013
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: mad enough to stand up there in front of the U. Yeah,

1014
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: I let my team down today. I did. If somebody

1015
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: would have told me I was gonna have an opportunity

1016
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: to atone for the fumble right by catching a two

1017
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: part conversion and giving our team an opportunity to pretend,

1018
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: let me take this thing to overtime. A chance. That's

1019
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: all I could ask for. All you want is an

1020
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: opportunity to put to be in that situation, because a

1021
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: lot of times, oh Joe, you don't even get an

1022
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: opportunity to be in that situation right to catch a

1023
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: game changing plate or game winning plate.

1024
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 4: Moments like that come come around every so often. Every

1025
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 4: so often, though it don't happen all It don't happen

1026
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 4: all the time. Now, it's yes, fortunate enough because of

1027
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: the team he's playing for, they're going to always be

1028
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: in contention, and he's going to always be making players

1029
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: for Lamar Jackson.

1030
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 5: Yes, so he's gonna be all right.

1031
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: You're gonna be all right. Victory goes to the man

1032
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: that's prepared. Luck. They call it the volume