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Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Josh Paid here within a Steam twenty

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Speaker 1: four to seven sports roundtable. We have got in no

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Speaker 1: particular order, but starting with Chris Hummer because I forgot

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Speaker 1: him two times ago. Chris Hummer is here, Bud Elliott

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Speaker 1: is here, Blake Brockermeyer is here, Brenda Marcelo is here,

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Speaker 1: and we're at the midpoint of the season. Guys. We

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Speaker 1: did this at the beginning of the season. Not much

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Speaker 1: has changed, if we're being real, except for everything, and

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Speaker 1: so we kind of decided we need to reconvene here.

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Speaker 1: It's nice, it's early in the week, and we need

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Speaker 1: now and how things are going to go. And I

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Speaker 1: really wanted to be free flowing. And there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot of audience just page and I can

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Speaker 1: guarantee you in the comment section when we post this.

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Speaker 1: So let's just do this because this is what a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about right now. We'll start

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Speaker 1: on a positive note and I'll start with you, Bud,

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Speaker 1: and let's just kind of go around anyway. We want

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Speaker 1: to the most surprising thing, whether it be a team

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Speaker 1: or a player, just what is surprise you the most

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Speaker 1: and maybe a positive way so far this year.

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Speaker 2: Sure, well for a positive way, let's go ahead and

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Speaker 2: start with with Sessi Meltucker there at Michigan State. I

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Speaker 2: was fairly high on this Michigan State team, but guys,

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Speaker 2: I did not see them being seven to zero at

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Speaker 2: this point in the season. They have done a really

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Speaker 2: good job with the transfer portal. They seem to have

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Speaker 2: much better quarterback play than they have in the past.

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Speaker 2: They're creating some explosive plays on offense. They've been fairly

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Speaker 2: opportunitistic on defense and on special teams. Thanks Nebraska for

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Speaker 2: having terrible special teams there, but keeping a positive. Really

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Speaker 2: nice job by mel Tucker. Their season win total was

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Speaker 2: four and a half and I thought they could probably

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Speaker 2: seven to zero this year. So big things happening so

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Speaker 2: far in East Lansing. You can argue it had been

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're also we're also looking at a situation now

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Speaker 1: that people I know in the Upper Midwest have kind

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Speaker 1: of people have with one I for a while, but

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Speaker 1: now it's almost here. I mean, if Michigan gets past

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Speaker 1: Northwestern this week we've got undefeated Michigan State. Undefeated Michigan,

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Speaker 1: and it's on the same day as Penn State Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: which of course everyone in that part of the country

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Speaker 1: the year. But I mean, like Brandon Marcelo, we were

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Speaker 1: talking this morning on our editorial meeting, which was like

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Speaker 1: actually end up being the Big Tens moment this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, because game it's very competitive and

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Speaker 3: it's very clear cut, like, wow, those are two really

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Speaker 3: That changes things because Ohio State right now is easily

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Speaker 3: the number one team into Big Ten. They look like

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Speaker 3: they're destined for the playoff. But if we can get

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Speaker 3: the eye of the nation now the Big Ten, all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, boy, things start taking a different tone there.

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Speaker 3: And you know you mentioned Michigan Michigan State Top ten

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Speaker 3: matchup between the two teams. So many great games between

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Speaker 3: the two but it's been a very long time, like

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Speaker 3: half a century since both teams were in the top

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Speaker 4: So that's gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Like, you've had a lot of teams broken down, both

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Speaker 5: Well, I would say, you know, kind of like we

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Speaker 5: Oklahoma State is one that's really surprised me. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think you know, they're six and oh got a

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Speaker 5: well for having a very good season so far. And

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Speaker 5: all those teams that have done incredible job, but there's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, speaking of the group.

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Speaker 7: Of five and Cincinnati, I want to focus on Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: comes to college football playoff. That's what I want, that's

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Speaker 7: what I enjoy, And this season is set up perfectly

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Speaker 7: for Cincinnati to maybe have a chance down the line

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Speaker 7: of college football playoff. Not only did Cincinnati take care

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Speaker 7: of business in a pleasantly surprising way if you're rooting

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Speaker 7: for that sort of thing. They beat Indiana by two possessions,

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Speaker 7: they beat Notre Dame by two possessions.

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Speaker 6: But the kind of national chaos around them is happening

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Speaker 7: Way where Cincinnati is positioned to run the table and

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Speaker 7: way we haven't seen before. And I'm sure some people

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Speaker 7: see the group of five teams the trendy up start

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Speaker 7: in the playoff. But I'm here for and real quick,

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Speaker 7: just want to give a shout out to Jeff Trailer

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Speaker 7: program could finish twelve to zero with the schedule it

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Speaker 7: has so UTSA has been a great spread as well.

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Speaker 1: Let's take that spectrum. Let's totally flip it on its

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Speaker 1: but yet they're the number one team in the country

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Speaker 1: right now. And it's funny how perception in the preseason

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Speaker 1: we all knew, everyone and their mother knew if Georgia

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Speaker 1: And I'm just kind of fascinated by that whole gap

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Speaker 1: the teams that one will play. Now. On the other

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Speaker 1: the most disappointing teams. I'm gonna kick it off and

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna kick it to you guys, because my most

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Speaker 1: was just this past weekend when Florida, to me inexplicably

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Speaker 1: dropped another game as a double digit favorite to again

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Speaker 1: getting rid of the coach. Anyway, Like that's the kind

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Speaker 1: There are some underlying issues there defensively recruiting, and it's

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Speaker 1: not like these are brand new, but it gets to

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Speaker 1: the point now, I think when we start to look

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Speaker 1: which I don't love doing a lot. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying Dan Mullen's there, but at the very least, when

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Speaker 1: those two moves coincide. But man, I get past where

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Speaker 1: Florida is right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: With Dan Mullen, I mean that guy, he just plays

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Speaker 3: with fire everywhere he goes, and he's very I hate

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Speaker 3: and even the media, it's all like, yeah, what do

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Speaker 3: you know? This is what I do and this is

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Speaker 3: what's always worked for me. And we're talking about right

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Speaker 3: now the quarterback situation with Emery Jones. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: keep saying, well, he doesn't know the incomplete offense. Isn't

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Speaker 3: it on you as a coach to shrink things down

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Speaker 3: to throw interceptions left and right and put your offense

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Speaker 3: to really gasp for air under Todd Grantham because you're

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Speaker 4: Dan Mullen has made some really.

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Speaker 3: Really wild decisions and really a lot of indecision this

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Speaker 3: him up close, so I've covered him up close formerly

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Speaker 3: as a Mississippi State beat writer. But you can't do

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Speaker 3: that on the big stage of Florida week after week

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Speaker 3: after week. And the number one the other thing with

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Speaker 3: that right now is that you can't pin him on

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Speaker 3: any one thing week to week. One week, it's obviously

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Speaker 3: the quarterback situation. They lose a Kentucky game because of

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Speaker 3: a lot of penalties. Your offensive line is not playing

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, they're not playing great in

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Speaker 3: this week. So every week it's a different issue. That's

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Speaker 3: to me is coaching. That is a lot of inconsistencies

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Speaker 3: across the board. There's not a lot discipline on this

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Speaker 3: multitude of issues. And I think in that LSU game

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Speaker 3: all that came together and it fell under its own weight.

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Speaker 3: Dan Mullen has a huge issue right now, and that

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Speaker 3: huge issue is that he has a lot of issues

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Speaker 3: stemming from a lack of discipline.

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Speaker 2: So if you're going to keep a staff like Dan

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Speaker 2: Mullen has, which is a good but not great recruiting

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Speaker 2: staff relative to the resources that you have at Florida,

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Speaker 2: you know, and we see Georgia beat them in recruiting consistently.

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Speaker 2: We see Alabama beat them in recruiting consistently and LSU two,

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Speaker 2: you better have a really, really well coached football team.

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Speaker 2: And I do think Dan Mullen still a really good

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Speaker 2: football coach. I think his track record suggests that he's

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Speaker 3: The best offensive coach, best offensive coach in the country,

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Speaker 3: in my opinion, does have a history, yes, playing these

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Speaker 1: Sure enough, Chris, biggest disappointment so far for you this year.

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Speaker 3: That Clemson offense, by the way, the worst statistically since

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Speaker 1: We need to say the name Tommy wes Moore on

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Speaker 2: I just want to go back to twenty nineteen, standing

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Speaker 2: this crop of quarterbacks they stink. And it was evident

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Speaker 1: I just love the YouTube era. I love that we're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the best of times. It was the

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Speaker 5: So I've got a list, so I made. I made

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Speaker 5: They're the easy ones. They're you know, fighting to even

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Speaker 5: They have one guaranteed win against Wafford left on their

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Speaker 2: I mean, Penn State fires and immediately goes to the

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Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. Like literally the solution is don't, Hi, don't.

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Speaker 4: But that was just it's the.

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Speaker 2: Reason they lost to Montana.

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Speaker 1: There have been some staffs out there in the past

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Speaker 1: where you get an offensive minded head coach in place

439
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Speaker 1: and he says, I'll just do whatever on defense, just

440
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Speaker 1: give me the ball back. Okay, I'm not in love

441
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Speaker 1: with it, but that's a great approach. Here's what you

442
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Speaker 1: can't do. You can't say I don't care what we

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Speaker 1: do on offense, just put my defense back out on

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Speaker 1: the field. Like not even not even Kurt Ferrence coaches

445
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Speaker 1: that way, and that's the only way they actually win game.

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Speaker 2: The best example of this ever was Bob Stoops when

447
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Speaker 2: he got to Oklahoma. He said, I'm going to hire

448
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Speaker 2: the coordinator who gave me the most hell when I

449
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Speaker 2: was the DC at Florida, and that was Mike Leash

450
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Speaker 2: who was then the Kentucky offensive coordinator. That's in Stoops's book,

451
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Speaker 2: Like he's like, as a defensive guy, I want to

452
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Speaker 2: score a lot of points, and I want to trust

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Speaker 2: my defense to get stops and get the ball back

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Speaker 2: to my offense.

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Speaker 3: And look how quickly he turned ou around when he

456
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Speaker 3: got there. I don't know a lot of people remember that.

457
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Speaker 3: I mean they came in barely made a bowl game

458
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Speaker 3: when he got there, after just a complete wash out.

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Speaker 3: You know, that led to the coaching change, and then

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Speaker 3: year two they're back to being the elite team in

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Speaker 3: the country and the Midwest.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and we just saw at orgerone and get dismissed.

463
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Speaker 7: But he turned his program around with the right oc

464
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Speaker 7: hire and it's not always easy to do. At Ordern

465
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Speaker 7: missed like I think seventeen times before he found Joe Brady,

466
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Speaker 7: but he.

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Speaker 6: Got that guy. I didn't want to point out.

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Speaker 7: With Washington and Jimmy Lake, not only are they not

469
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Speaker 7: moving the ball offensively, Jimmy Lake was hired in part

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Speaker 7: because of his like his dynamic ability as a recruiter,

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Speaker 7: and Washington currently sets fifty third nationally in the twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty two class rankings.

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Speaker 6: That's not good enough. And last year probably.

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Speaker 7: Wouldn't have been good either if you didn't get the

475
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Speaker 7: nephew of an all time great Washington quarterback to come

476
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Speaker 7: on campus as a five star QP.

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Speaker 6: So Jimmy Lake's problems go beyond offense.

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Speaker 1: All right, So a lot of things are not glowing

479
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Speaker 1: out there. Let's talk about some best games we've seen.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you unequivocally, the best regular season game

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Speaker 1: this year, or any game I've ever seen in person,

482
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Speaker 1: was last week, actually a couple of weeks ago. I

483
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Speaker 1: guess now oh you Texas, just for a standalone event,

484
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Speaker 1: not playoff implications or anything else, just that Saturday afternoon.

485
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Speaker 1: That was as good as I've ever seen in person.

486
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Speaker 1: I've still got a mild sunburn from it, but that's

487
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Speaker 1: a memory that will lasts a lifetime. Now. What I

488
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Speaker 1: don't like is if Texas falters down the stretch, people

489
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Speaker 1: will look back on that game and say, oh, it

490
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Speaker 1: didn't matter, not understanding the ramifications and fallout from that

491
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Speaker 1: game probably are disproportionately impacting Texas now and moving forward.

492
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Speaker 1: So like I mean, if Oklahoma doesn't score to win

493
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Speaker 1: the game, like am I supposed to believe Texas would

494
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Speaker 1: have looked the exact same way yesterday they did or Saturday,

495
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Speaker 1: rather that they did. I don't think so. But in

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Speaker 1: any event, I don't care how the rest of the

497
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Speaker 1: season plays out. On that Saturday in the cotton Ball

498
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Speaker 1: first time ever there for me, by the way, that

499
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Speaker 1: was as good as I've seen on TV or in

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Speaker 1: person this year. Best game you've seen so far this year.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, these teams have both taken losses since then. But

502
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to the swamp Alabama Florida

503
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Speaker 2: really had it all right, You had like explosive plays.

504
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Speaker 2: You also had a ton of drama with a lot

505
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Speaker 2: of those plays happening down on the goal line. You

506
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Speaker 2: had really good offense, you had really good defense, you

507
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Speaker 2: had an underdog making a comeback. Crowd was absolutely jacked,

508
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Speaker 2: comes down to a two point conversion at the end,

509
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Speaker 2: potentially send it into overtime. Obviously those teams aren't quite

510
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Speaker 2: as good now as we thought they were at the time,

511
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Speaker 2: I guess, but that was still a really exciting game

512
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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 3: For me, it's a couple of games. I think one

514
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Speaker 3: of the most recent ones made its recently biased but

515
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Speaker 3: Alabama Texas A and M and the way they were

516
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Speaker 3: going back and forth with Alabama rallying there in the

517
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Speaker 3: second half, I really really love watching that. But really,

518
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Speaker 3: the one that just sticks in my heart, sticks in

519
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Speaker 3: the back of my brain is one that has that's

520
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Speaker 3: a game of no consequence now and no one really

521
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Speaker 3: will even care about to talk about two weeks from

522
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Speaker 3: now or even you know a week ago. Is Fresno

523
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Speaker 3: State that you see and Fresno State going down with

524
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Speaker 3: an injured quarterback who just taken hit after hit in

525
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Speaker 3: the hip, could barely walk leading Fresno State down the

526
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Speaker 3: field to win it and him collapsing to the turf

527
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Speaker 3: and just utter disbelief and also pain is an image

528
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Speaker 3: that will stick out to me and really define I

529
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Speaker 3: think and encapsulates his entire twenty twenty one season, which

530
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Speaker 3: is expect anything, chaos is here, and just celebrate while

531
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Speaker 3: you can. Because Presno State and UCLA at the time,

532
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Speaker 3: it was a hard hitting, almost sec or big ten

533
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Speaker 3: light game in the trenches, which no one talks about

534
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Speaker 3: and when you talk about back twelve football, but that

535
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Speaker 3: was that game. Obviously, both teams are not top twenty

536
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Speaker 3: five worthy right now, but in that moment at one

537
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Speaker 3: in the morning, watching a game like that was absolutely thrilling.

538
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Speaker 3: And that's the funnest I've had all seasons so far.

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Speaker 1: Chris Summer, best game you've seen so far.

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Speaker 7: I mean I was there with Josh and Blake were

541
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Speaker 7: both there as well. I was in Texas, Oklahoma. That

542
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Speaker 7: was the best Texas Oklahoma game I've seen probably in

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Speaker 7: a decade or two, and I've been to a lot

544
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Speaker 7: of them. Blakes has probably been more than me, but

545
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Speaker 7: that that game was excellent. I think we're going to

546
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Speaker 7: remember that as the game Kayleb Williams emerged as the

547
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Speaker 7: next college football superstar that's going to carry consequence for

548
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Speaker 7: Oklahoma and for Texas for years to come. I think

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Speaker 7: if Texa had won that game with so many big

550
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Speaker 7: recruits and attendance, that would have been a momentum swing,

551
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Speaker 7: a change to the early Steve Sarkisian era, and he

552
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Speaker 7: has to work to kind of regain that momentum back.

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Speaker 7: I do want to point out it wasn't a great game,

554
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Speaker 7: but I always will remember this. Iowa versus Penn State.

555
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Speaker 7: Iowa on third down gets in the victory formation, still

556
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Speaker 7: has to punt the next down.

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Speaker 6: Iowa still forty seconds left on the clock.

558
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Speaker 7: Iowa doesn't trust its offense and gets in the victory formation.

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Speaker 6: I will I will never forget that.

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Speaker 3: That was a wonderful home and the football gods have

561
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Speaker 3: punished them since.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Blake brockenmar So you going Cotton Bowl. You're going

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Speaker 1: a different direction here for best game you.

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Speaker 5: I have already said all the games I was going

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Speaker 5: to mention, so Texas ou is obviously the game that

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Speaker 5: sticks out to me, and uh, just a crazy, crazy

567
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Speaker 5: game and the atmosphere, but the Alabama Florida game to

568
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Speaker 5: me was probably the second best game I've seen. Just

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Speaker 5: Florida just played out of their minds and had a

570
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Speaker 5: really good, good game plan for Alabama, and Alabama struggled

571
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Speaker 5: this year on the road with noise and just kind

572
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Speaker 5: of getting all their communication organized. So that was you know,

573
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Speaker 5: I know that they that they said that that was

574
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Speaker 5: one of the loudest games I've ever been to in

575
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Speaker 5: their you know, last ten years at Alabama. So both

576
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Speaker 5: of those stand out to me. And then the other

577
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Speaker 5: game that stands out to me that you know, looking

578
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Speaker 5: back on it now, wasn't a huge implication game, but

579
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Speaker 5: the opening game of Labor Day, of the Notre Dame

580
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Speaker 5: Florida State game was It was a classic game and

581
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Speaker 5: had some great storylines with quarterback from Florida State coming

582
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Speaker 5: out off the massive two year rehabilitation for his knee.

583
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Speaker 5: So that was a really inspiring story and a great

584
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Speaker 5: game to watch and a great atmosphere at Florida State.

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Speaker 1: So let's go individual award here. This is when you

586
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Speaker 1: really start talking about Heisman a lot more so before

587
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Speaker 1: we talk about individuals. I'm going to ask this question.

588
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Speaker 1: It's a very specifically worded question. I'm not asking you

589
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Speaker 1: if you think personally it should happen. I want to

590
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Speaker 1: show of hands. Does anyone think a defensive player actually

591
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Speaker 1: has a shot of winning the Heisman? No? Okay, now

592
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Speaker 1: well let's go second show of fans. Does anyone here

593
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Speaker 1: think that there is a defensive player out there worthy

594
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Speaker 1: of winning the Heisman? All right, Blake Brockermeier, that's content,

595
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Speaker 1: my friend, that's how this works. Go ahead, my friend.

596
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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the name that sticks out. I mean,

597
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Speaker 5: Georgia's defensive line has got some creatures on it. Jordan

598
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Speaker 5: Davis is the guy that makes it all go. He

599
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Speaker 5: eats up space, he clears you know, let's his linebackers roam.

600
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Speaker 5: He's only got eighteen tackles on the year, which is

601
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Speaker 5: you know, if you're a stats guy, that's not you know,

602
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Speaker 5: that's not great. But Georgia rotates so much on defense.

603
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Speaker 5: But you know, Jalen Carter and DeVante why, Nolan Smith

604
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Speaker 5: and Jordan Davis. I mean, all those guys are deserving

605
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Speaker 5: of something. And the whole Georgia defense obviously has been

606
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Speaker 5: amazing all year. But I mean, he's the one guy

607
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Speaker 5: that I think might get an invite, possibly just because

608
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Speaker 5: of the impact he has on every game, I think play.

609
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Speaker 7: Enough snaps to really put himself in position for that.

610
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Speaker 7: I think I don't even think he plays half of Georgia's.

611
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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Well know one at Georgia does. I mean

612
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Speaker 5: they wrote to on their offense is the same way.

613
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Speaker 5: I mean, if they had one guy or one running

614
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Speaker 5: back or you know, one quarterback that played the whole year,

615
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Speaker 5: they'd probably be the front runner. But they just don't

616
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Speaker 5: have the stats to to really make a case besides

617
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Speaker 5: their defense.

618
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Speaker 4: And with that you talk about half and half. We

619
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Speaker 4: talk about half and half.

620
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Speaker 3: People are already talking about Caleb Williams maybe in the

621
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Speaker 3: Heisman discussion, and at most he's going to play half

622
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Speaker 3: the snaps at quarterback because he's only playing half a season.

623
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Speaker 4: Yet we're talking about him potentially.

624
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Speaker 5: He's played six quarters, so let's let him play.

625
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Speaker 3: Hey, he's already on the Heisman Trophy. It's chart right now.

626
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Speaker 2: Nineteen opened the door, like, if none of them are

627
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Speaker 2: gonna win, somebody's.

628
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Speaker 4: Got to win.

629
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Speaker 5: I want to see him play a few more weeks too.

630
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Speaker 1: Chris Hummer, I know you were dying to say something,

631
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Speaker 1: and now there is two minutes of silence, I'm giving

632
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Speaker 1: him to you make friend tank you.

633
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Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, if we're looking for somebody

634
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Speaker 7: on Georgia's defense, and I mean, it should be a

635
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 7: collective award for the eyes when I'm fine giving the

636
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 7: entire starting eleven the Heisman Trophy this year based on

637
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Speaker 7: the way we played, I would think about Nakcobe Dean.

638
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 7: He's kind of the centerpiece of that defense plays Mike

639
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 7: does everything. He's on the field almost every snap as well.

640
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Speaker 7: I think he's PFF's top graded linebacker in the country

641
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 7: this year. He's been excellent. So if we're gonna if

642
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 7: we have to nominate somebody defensively this year, that would

643
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Speaker 7: be the guy I'd love to But I really do

644
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Speaker 7: think we're missing kind of the Chase Young type presence

645
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 7: defensively that really factors in this Heisman mix. I think,

646
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Speaker 7: if anything, this is a year where running back could

647
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Speaker 7: break through, just because we have such subpar quarterback play

648
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Speaker 7: across the board.

649
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and right now, I think the only one who

650
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Speaker 3: could do that is Kenneth Walker, and that's only if

651
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: Michigan State keeps winning or they finished with one loss.

652
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: And the other thing is he was just held under

653
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: one hundred yards by Is that a sign of some

654
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 3: things to come as defense is really focus on him.

655
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, but Michigan State's got to keep winning.

656
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: We're just heading down the path here to a boring

657
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: finish in the Heisman Race. It's just gonna be Bryce

658
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: Young because Alabama's going to keep just eating people alive.

659
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: He's gonna get big numbers and everybody's just going to

660
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: vote for him. I think it's gonna be a pretty

661
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: split vote this year, obviously, but we're just going to

662
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 3: go with the best quarterback on the best offense on

663
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: the best maybe team outside of Georgia at this point,

664
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: and he'll end up getting it.

665
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 6: Well, if you're willing to consider a first half only award,

666
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 6: b John Robinson would have an excellent chance of kind

667
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 6: of cracking.

668
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: I watched that Arkansas game. What did he do there?

669
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the reason he can't win it because he

670
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: didn't do a damn thing to Oklahoma State. He in

671
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: the second half against Oklahoma he kind of disappeared and

672
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: then Arkansas shut him down. Like I wanted to bet him,

673
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: but like his moment opportunities, he didn't come up.

674
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: Bit he's the best running back in the country. Yeah,

675
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: you look at him.

676
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 4: I mean just his technique and everything he does. But

677
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: he doesn't have the.

678
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: Numbers or just the other worldly performance to lift Texas

679
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: on his shoulders and win games. And that's not necessarily

680
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: his fault. Think he's done it that he can. It's

681
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: just that defense is just terrible down in the second half.

682
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 6: It How do we feel about CJ. Stroud for Heisman?

683
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 6: Given the opportunities he has ahead.

684
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: Of them, That's who I'll roll with. If no one

685
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: else wants to take him, I'll take CJ. Stroud.

686
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, he's got top ten game against Michigan,

687
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 7: top ten game against Michigan State, top ten game against

688
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 7: Penn State, potentially a top ten game against Iowa depending

689
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 7: on how things break out East. Like, he's got all

690
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 7: the opportunities in front of him to make a statement

691
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 7: down the stretch, and given that offense, I think he will.

692
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 6: He kind of in my odds on favor right now.

693
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really fun to watch. By the way,

694
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: when we were talking about the defensive stuff, and I

695
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: think it was Hummer who brought up the name na

696
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: Kobe Dean. In our world, everyone, here's the name, and

697
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: then they think about the recruitment. Nakobe Dean was out

698
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: of Mississippi. He had a very high, very high profile

699
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: recruitment at least down here, if not nationally. BAMA thought

700
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: they had him for a while. He ends up going

701
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: to Georgia. Bama's standout players Will Anderson from the state

702
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: of Georgia, who until very late in the process, Georgia

703
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: never really pursued all that hard. And so your two

704
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: standout players on the field. There's so much recruiting sub

705
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: context there. But I'll also tell you this, like we're

706
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: looking right now, as I just brought up the name CJ. Stroud,

707
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: I saw Matt Corrall in person over the weekend. You

708
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: talk about a guy single handedly carrying a team on

709
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: his shoulders to a win. The guy nearly had two

710
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: hundred on the ground and through the air. And Wolf,

711
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Tennessee defensively is its own story. But I

712
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: don't know ole miss can can continue to win. But

713
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: if they continue to win, Matt Crowby, a fundle named.

714
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: Matt Corrall is the Steph Curry of college football. He's

715
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: a volume shooter. It took him sixty eight touches to

716
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 3: get four hundred and what twenty seven yards or whatever

717
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 3: against Tennessee. He hasn't had that breakthrough moment, that Heisman moment,

718
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: that big win, or even a competitive game, which would

719
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: have been against Alabama. Maybe at some point later this

720
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: season he can. He will probably be in New York,

721
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: but he's not gonna win it. I mean, a guy

722
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: like that who runs the ball forty times against Tennessee,

723
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: throws at thirty eight times, and he's gonna touch the

724
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: ball obviously on every snap, but record stats on fifty

725
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: of those snaps until he has a big moment to

726
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: lead Old Miss to some like a season changing win.

727
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: I just don't know how you can give him that

728
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: nod when he's just he's a good quarterback. He's an

729
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: above average quarterback. He's a great quarterback. But that system

730
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: is what's allowing him to put up crazy numbers.

731
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 6: Pretty similar and so.

732
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: And so did Tebow in two thousand and seven when

733
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: Florida was a four lost team. Right, Like, if there's

734
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: a path for mac Corral to win the Heisman, it's

735
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: Georgia beats Alabama again. So Bryce Young is a two

736
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: lost QB, then we're going to go to the stat sheet,

737
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: and mac correl is going to have better stats than

738
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, even though Price did beat him head to head.

739
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: Maybe some of the Ohio state receivers siphoning off some

740
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: votes from CJ. Stroud and and the Georgia defensive thing

741
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 2: doesn't catch on and all of a sudden, Corral, I mean,

742
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: he's got a fourteen to one touchdown interception ratio right now.

743
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna win it. It would probably

744
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: require old Miss going what nine to three or better,

745
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: which is unlikely. But there's not really a super likely

746
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: candidate right now, would argue. So if he keeps if

747
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: he keeps putting up crazy stats and Bryce Young's not

748
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: sitting there with a one in the lost column, it's

749
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: not totally outside the realm possibility that he takes it home.

750
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: I'll kind of buzz through all of them quickly. I

751
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 5: think Corral and Vjon mean more to their team than

752
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 5: than any of the other candidates. I think those two

753
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 5: guys really carry their team. Vjon. If you took Vjon

754
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 5: away from Texas offense, they would be in a lot

755
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 5: of trouble. I mean, he is a dynamic playmaker.

756
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 6: Corral.

757
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 5: I think the same way he's a winner, he's improved

758
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 5: a lot from last year. He's going to have good numbers.

759
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: He's a good runner as well. Can they win enough

760
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 5: games to get him in I kind of doubt that,

761
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 5: And same with Bijon. Kind of like what Brandon said

762
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: about Bryce Shung. You know, you'd expect Ala Dama to

763
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 5: win every game until they get to the SEC championship game.

764
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 5: He's going to put up good numbers. He's a consistent player.

765
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 5: I think you know he's going to be in it.

766
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 5: And then Kenneth Walker, you know, it's full team ahead

767
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 5: for him and TJ. Stroud because their season is just

768
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 5: now beginning, because they all both of us, you know,

769
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 5: the whole Big ten really, I mean at least the

770
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 5: four main teams. I mean, their whole season is in

771
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 5: front of them. So if they ball out in the

772
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 5: big games, that's how you win the Heisman in my opinion.

773
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap it up here with college football playoff.

774
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Forget about what you said in the preseason. No one remembers.

775
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: You can wad it up, you can throw it in

776
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: the garbage. We're gonna start a new here going into

777
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: week eight. I believe we're in now So let's start

778
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: with Bud. We'll go Bud Blake, Chris Brandon. I'll wrap

779
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: it up because I care about this. The least college

780
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: football playoff, updated predictions and national champion.

781
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: All right, I will go Georgia, Oklahoma, Cincinnati, and Ohio State.

782
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: I have a ten to one ticket on Georgia. It's

783
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: the only national national title feature I bet this year.

784
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: But I'm going to actually go with Ohio State. I

785
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: think they're changing defensive play caller is helpful. I think

786
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: that offense is really hitting its stride. Even in the

787
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: game they lost, they put up six hundred yards offense.

788
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: And I just haven't seen Georgia throw the ball when

789
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: it has to throw the ball yet. And if Georgia

790
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: gets there, then I'm gonna be totally wrong. I'm sure

791
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: other people will pick Georgia, but I'll go outside the

792
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: box to start and go Ohio State.

793
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: I'll go with Georgia Oklahoma. I'm gonna go with Michigan State,

794
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna go with Cincinnati. I think I'm not

795
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: a believer in Ohio State yet. I need to see

796
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 5: them beat a good team. I haven't seen that yet

797
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 5: this year from them. Michigan State has been tested. They've

798
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 5: surprised me a little bit, and I think that they

799
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 5: could be a surprise that the Big ten to me

800
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 5: is wide open. I mean it's it's chaotic, anything's I mean,

801
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 5: it's if anything could happen there. I do think Cincinnati

802
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 5: is going to get in. Obviously, if they lose a game,

803
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: that's not going to happen. But I think the body

804
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 5: of work the last two years is impressive and I

805
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 5: think they deserve a shot. I don't think they'll win it,

806
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 5: but I do think Georgia will win it this year,

807
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 5: and as long as they can stay healthy and keep

808
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 5: their keep, keep their key pieces together on defense, I

809
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 5: think they'll that they're going to have a chance to

810
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 5: win it this year.

811
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 7: I like chalk basically Ohio State, Oklahoma, Georgia, and Alabama.

812
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 7: I don't I really know if it's going to be

813
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 7: a two loss Alabama I'm kind of breaking that streak.

814
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 6: Or one loss Alabama and one lost Georgia getting at

815
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 6: the same time.

816
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 7: But those are the four best teams in the country

817
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 7: in my opinion, and given the pass.

818
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 6: In front of them, that's how I kind of expect

819
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 6: to stack up.

820
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 7: As sad as that makes me about Cincinnati because would

821
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 7: love to see them in there. I would pick Alabama

822
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 7: as a national championship champion in that I'm kind of

823
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 7: regretting that as I say it, because that means probably

824
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 7: beating Georgia twice. So I might going to reverse that

825
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 7: on air and go Georgia's national champion. But I think

826
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 7: it'll be one of those two winning the national championship

827
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 7: and we're gonna lock it in with Georgia. After I

828
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 7: went back and forth on live television for about a minute.

829
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: There, Yeah, my feeling is is Georgia, Cincinnati, Oklahoma, and

830
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 3: Ohio State. I want to see Oklahoma and Ohio State

831
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: going against each other because that game would be fifty

832
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: two to fifty. But that's not the four best teams.

833
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 4: In the country.

834
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: I think when wins reels said and done, Alabama should

835
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: be in there and probably should be in there when this.

836
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: Is all said and done.

837
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: I think Alabama is probably going to beat Georgia in

838
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: the SEC Championship game to get in anyway, and Alabama

839
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: and Georgia should both be in there.

840
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: With the playoff Committe's.

841
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: Going to sit there and go, well, they just so

842
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 3: we're not gonna put Georgia in and it's gonna be dumb.

843
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: But that's the playoff. It's always dumb, all right.

844
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: So I thought long and hard on this, and by

845
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: that I mean I wrote these down wall Chris was talking.

846
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Alabama Georgia one to two. It

847
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: should be noted Obama Georgia one two, Cincinnati number three,

848
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma number four. The biggest takeaway from this is there

849
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: would be no Big Ten team in after the Big

850
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: Ten as recently as last week had half I think

851
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: of the AP Top ten, there could be some craziness

852
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: happened down the stretch here, like Michigan State. You still

853
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: got Ohio State with a number of defensive hurdles too clear,

854
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: And I'm very curious right now about how fat they've

855
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: gotten recently on some inferior competition. Like as much as

856
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: I just sat there and even endorseed CJ. Stroud and

857
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: love where they are, Ohio State has the tendency to

858
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: make teams that don't score a whole lot of points

859
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: end up scoring on them and have to win shootout

860
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: style games that should not be shootouts. And it's just

861
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: weird stuff happens in those sorts of games, So I

862
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm certainly not putting a stamp on it,

863
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: bet any money on it. But the Big ten getting

864
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: left out I think would be a big story at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year as we wrap this up.

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Speaker 1: Any final parting thoughts for this midseason roundtable knowing you're

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Speaker 1: going to be held to this for the remainder of

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Speaker 1: the year.

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Speaker 3: Remember my quick thing, it's more of a question than

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Speaker 3: a point, and that's just mekes.

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Speaker 4: I always ask questions.

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Speaker 3: But we've had fourteen top ten teams lose so far

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Speaker 3: through seven weeks of the season. Does that continue down

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Speaker 3: the stretch or I are are we in a situation

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Speaker 3: now that the top eight teams are almost locked in?

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Speaker 3: What do you guys think? I want to just know quickly.

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Speaker 1: I think where we have to delineate there is are

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Speaker 1: we talking just top ten or are we drawing a

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Speaker 1: line between top four and then the rest of that

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Speaker 1: top six.

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Speaker 3: That's why I actually said top eight because I think

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Speaker 3: obviously teams like Michigan State, Penn State, others, there's going

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Speaker 3: to be a loss there because all those big ten

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Speaker 3: teams are going against each other. But are we going

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Speaker 3: to see another big loss Are we going to see

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Speaker 3: Alabama fall again? Are we gonna see Georgia fall again?

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Speaker 3: Our first first time?

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Speaker 2: Your question is really interesting. With the top ten there,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the bottom half of the top ten is

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Speaker 2: going to say for I think quite a few more

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Speaker 2: losses this year. Oklahoma State, Michigan State. I think both

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Speaker 2: should have lost over the weekend. To be honest, you know, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: I think we'll lose at least once, if not twice more.

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Speaker 2: Penn State, if they don't get their quarterback back, could

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Speaker 2: lose two or three more. Michigan I think we'll lose

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Speaker 2: a couple. So the bottom half, but the top half. Hell,

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Speaker 2: if Oklahoma doesn't get some of these injured defensive backs back,

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Speaker 2: like they got two weeks to get healthy. They've got

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Speaker 2: Kansas and they have somebody else's a cupcake next two weeks.

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Speaker 2: But after that they have a real they have a

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Speaker 2: real strong, difficult finish. They could drop some.

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Speaker 7: John Jim Knowles and David Randa and back to back

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Speaker 7: to back weeks and the regular season, and if you're

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Speaker 7: looking for a test for a true freshman quarterback, it

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Speaker 7: is those three coordinators. They will throw everything at Capa

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Speaker 7: Williams and that that is not a gimme stretch for

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Speaker 7: Oklahoma by any means at the end of the season.

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Speaker 5: My take so far is that we haven't even begun

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Speaker 5: to see the chaos that's fixing to happen in college football.

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Speaker 5: I think what I've noticed this year is home field

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Speaker 5: advantage matters, and I've then some of these. I went

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Speaker 5: to the Alabama A and M game, and the A

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Speaker 5: and M crowd made a huge difference. And so like

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Speaker 5: when you're at home and you've got a good team

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Speaker 5: there that that can make a huge difference. So I

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Speaker 5: think there's gonna be I don't think Georgia is gonna

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Speaker 5: lose again. The next test they'll have will be in

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Speaker 5: the SEC championship game against Alabama. But I think anyone

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Speaker 5: else in that schedule has a chance to lose a

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Speaker 5: game this year.

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Speaker 4: And Georgia.

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Speaker 5: No one's talking about Iowa State. They kind of fell

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Speaker 5: off early after they lost to Iowa. I mean, they

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Speaker 5: could easily beat Oklahoma this year once. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: don't know if he'll beat them, you know, I don't

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Speaker 5: know if they'll make it to the Big Twelve championship

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Speaker 5: game or not. But I think, you know, Michigan, Michigan State,

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Speaker 5: Oklahoma State. I mean, all these teams are going to

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Speaker 5: lose a game, so it'll be interesting to see how

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Speaker 5: it all unfolds by the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: I still have Georgia Florida circled on there because Dan

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Speaker 3: Mullen is crazy and weird and he dances around fire

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Speaker 3: burns himself sometimes he might beat Georgia. That's going to

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Speaker 3: be the closest score Georgia will have until that SEC

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Speaker 3: Championship game, and that's going to be a challenge split

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Speaker 3: fifty to fifty crowd in Jacksonville. I'm not saying Flora

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Speaker 3: is gonna win. I don't see that happening, but that's

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Speaker 3: going to be a big challenge for Georgia, just even

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Speaker 3: with their defense going against Dan Mullen just crafting some

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Speaker 3: crazy things on offense.

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Speaker 7: I just want to real quick before we exit off

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Speaker 7: throw Kenny Pickett's in love. I think they're going to

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Speaker 7: be Clemson this upcoming weekend, and Kenny Pickett's going to

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Speaker 7: be a HIGs and finalists and he's a strong dark

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Speaker 7: horse to kind of push himself into that mix. He's

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Speaker 7: twenty to one touchdowns interceptions this year, they throw the

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Speaker 7: ball a.

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Speaker 6: Ton and he's a name that's not getting enough love

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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 1: First time Clemson's played in Heinz Field, I did not

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Speaker 1: know that. So first time they've been too pit in

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Speaker 1: acc play. Yeah, I said the same thing, Mar Solo. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we are.

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Speaker 2: Joined on twenty thirteen or twenty four teams the first year.

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Speaker 1: Fairly recently, recently enough to where Clemson hasn't been up

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Speaker 1: there yet. All right, I feel good. I feel good

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Speaker 1: about where we've left off here. Having said that, we

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Speaker 1: are not completely sure everything's going to pan out exactly

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Speaker 1: as we are forore told, So keep it locked on

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