1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: I Am all in again. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: Oh let's. 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast one 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: of Love Productions, iHeartRadio Media, I Heart Podcasts, Season one, 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Episode seventeen, The Breakup, Part two. We are joined by 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: part of my intrepid crew Susanne French you know where 8 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: you love her, and the one and only Jason Earls. Okay, basically, 9 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: we're bringing on a Disney Channel legend who you may 10 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: not have known was an extra on Gilmore Girls. He's 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: an active director all around town who made us laugh 12 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: as a hilarious Jackson Stewart on Hannah Montana. If you 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: don't know who I'm talking about, this is the one 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: and only Jason Earls. Jason Welcome, Hello, How are you hello? 15 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, Scott. I'm so excited to 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: be here. Seriously, I you were my favorite character by 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: far on the show. 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: I love everybody on the show, but like I just 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: identified with your character Luke. 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: So much that I'm just I'm beyond stoke to be here. 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: That's very kind to you. Thank you you were on 22 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: what you just did? The one episode Season three, episode sixteen, 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: the Big One. 24 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I was in season three, episode sixteen thirteen, 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: which was when Paris was making the speech about not 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: getting into Harvard. I'm right over Loreleized shoulder in the audience. 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: We have a photo of it. There you are, Oh yeah, 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: there you are. Shelton By Centennials speech competition. She derails. 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: Paris derails at the plant speech by revealing her Harvard 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: rejection and loss of virginity. As a camera cuts to 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Richard and Lorelized reactions. Jason appears in the background between them. 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: What's funny is that people will send me pictures of 33 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: this all the time on my social media and they're like, dude, 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: why do you look so dead inside? We were probably 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: shooting for like hours and hours. The scene is like, 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: she's talking about losing a virginity, not getting into Harvard. 37 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: So I think we, you know, we were all shocked 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: at what she was. 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: Right, Pleasure, you've been sitting around all day in craft 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: service and you know, yeah, you get that glassy look. 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: That's nice to me too, all right. So so the 42 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: synopsis of this and it aired March fifteen, two thousand 43 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: and one. That's a long time ago. That's twenty four 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: years ago ended almost Rory kisses Tristan at a party 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: after fighting with Dean and Laurel, I impulsively shows up 46 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: at Max's house for a night of love making. Nick 47 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Mark directed Amy Sherman Peltino, The one only wrote this 48 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: gem What do we think? Kids? 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: I love this episode? 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: Tell me why. 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: I just think, like, especially coming off the episode before it, 52 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: you know, like that whole episode about all these people 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: in love and Laura like sort of going through the. 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: Town and she's witnessing all this stuff. 55 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: And she's like, what the heck? And then and then 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: this is like almost its counterpoint, you know what I mean. 57 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 3: It's really just watching that beat he's stripped away from 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: Rory and then ultimately making Laura like question her own stuff, 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: and that's how she ends up going back and like 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: sort of rekindling with Max and seeing if there's anything there. 61 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: So I just I loved like the way the two 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: episodes mirror each other, and I love the fact that 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 3: this one starts exactly where the last one ended, Like. 64 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: It there's no like, wait a minute, what happened? 65 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: Like in that I wanted to see the immediate aftermath 66 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: of her coming home and we got it, so it 67 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: was it was a very satisfying episode from top to 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: bottom my phone. 69 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree. And you know, the title the 70 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: break Up Part two kind of like what you were saying, 71 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: like part one we saw at the end of the 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: last episode, and it just like picked up right where 73 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: I left off, which I thought was, you know, a 74 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: great way to start it because there was just no interruption. 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: And I liked this episode too. I thought Alexis really 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: did a good job of nailing that teenage angst of 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: your first love going bad and you're just like your 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: shell shocked, like you don't even know like it it 79 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: changes your whole world, and I thought she did a 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: really good job of capturing that. And then Laurel I 81 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: was the great counterpart to that. Like she's in the 82 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: diner and she sees Rachel and Luke and Rachel are 83 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 4: you know, all kind of cute and then she's like 84 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: it kind of got the wheels turning, and you know, 85 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 4: then she's like, well, I might as well, you know, 86 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: go see what Max is doing because I don't think 87 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have anything going on here. 88 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: And then what'd you think about the Luke fight with Dean? 89 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: I think that. 90 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: That's literally my favorite part of the entire episode. It 91 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: is so it's so like, it's not even like I 92 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: think now people might be like that's taw like toxic masculine, 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: but it is so not. It is so like like 94 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: small town looking out for your people. You wrong the 95 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: people I love, and I'm coming after you. And literally 96 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: the funniest moment for me in the whole episode is 97 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: after the fight takes place and you think it's done 98 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 3: and then you're marching about after him and Laura I 99 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: spins you around. You're like he started. 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: Like, It's the funniest line in the entire episode. 101 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, strange, right, a grown man goes after sixteen year old, 102 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: but not your average sixteen year old. We're talking about 103 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: a six foot four it's yeah, mature. Who. Yeah, I 104 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: don't know. 105 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: I think it wouldn't fly today, But in that episode 106 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: it was hilarious, Like it literally was a laugh out 107 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: loud moment, like when she looks out the window and 108 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: sees you guys out there, It was funny. 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 110 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: I agree that it might not fly like if you 111 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: wrote it today, except for I think Luke is the 112 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: one character that can get away with that. I think 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: that he's so like there's just something so lovable about him, 114 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: and he's. 115 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: So protective of the people that he cares about. 116 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: That like I think you just sort of like you 117 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 3: put your blinders on for that, Like maybe you shouldn't 118 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: be man handling. 119 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: A sixteen year old, but you don't know a kid. 120 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: It was really Yeah, moved around. 121 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: Nobody was throwing hands. I didn't throw hands at at him. 122 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: I just tried to prevent him from going in to 123 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: do more harm to Rory. Yeah, okay, that's how I 124 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: justify it. 125 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, Luke was definitely in dad mode that whole scene, 126 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: like with the pank cakes and I'm going to bring 127 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: you strawberries like it just I don't know it was. 128 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 4: I think you're right it was. He was very protective 129 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: of Rory and it was it was cute. 130 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Susan, do you remember your first breakup? 131 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: I do remember. It wasn't my first breakup, but the 132 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: one that hurt the most actually was I was older. 133 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: I was twenty three and I was my college boyfriend 134 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 4: broke up with me in the tunnels coming out of 135 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: Logan Airport and nineteen ninety something, and it was I 136 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: can't even put words to it like it was devastating. 137 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: It was completely I was blindsided and it was completely unexpected, 138 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: and it was it was a bad scene for a 139 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: long time, Jason. 140 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: I owe a couple of good ones. 141 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: My girl friend in high school, and we broke up 142 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: like kind of officially at like a New Year's ey 143 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: like party, and I and I did not I did 144 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: not handle it well. I was really broken up over it. 145 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: I was I was so like, I was so submitting 146 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: with this girl that I actually ended up following her 147 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: one thousand miles to college to see if I could 148 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: rekindle it. 149 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: And obviously that did not work. 150 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: It was a it was a great choice in the 151 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: grand scheme of things, but it was a really dumb 152 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: thing that that an eighteen year old would do. 153 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Is just you know, you're gonna you're gonna. 154 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: Follow your high school girl friend to college and make 155 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: it work, and it never works. 156 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: It's I guess episode seen out of the graduate. You tried. 157 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: You gotta try. Only young people of that kind of 158 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: energy follow somebody a thousand miles. 159 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, I'd be like, okay, see yah. 160 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: Got the stuff to do? Did you throw away stuff? 161 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: Did you have stuff? Did you throw it away. 162 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: You know, I did not throw it away, although I 163 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: actually don't know where it is now, Like if I 164 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: had to find out, I don't know where it is. 165 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: But but now I didn't. I didn't throw I don't 166 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: really throw things away. Like I'm kind of a sentimental person, 167 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: so I like to hang on to memories. 168 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: How do you think Laurel I felt. Do you think 169 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: she she didn't really throw the stuff out she put 170 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: in her closet right and then hit it. So that means, like, 171 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: does that mean to you guys that she's holding out 172 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: hope that maybe Royal change your mind, or Dean will 173 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: apologize in the right way and they'll get back on track. 174 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 3: Or I feel like she just knew that, like eventually 175 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: it'll come around in some way where she may want that, 176 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: And so she was just sort of like she was 177 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: just being prepared for that. 178 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: I love them. 179 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: The moment later that that she mirrors it herself. She 180 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: pulls her box down and she finds the thing that 181 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: reminds her of Max. So like she knew that someday 182 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: she would want that thing that she herself hid in 183 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: the closet. 184 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: You know. 185 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: So that's one of the things that I love about 186 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: the show is there's so many of these things that 187 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: Mary Rory and Laurel I together like that just there's 188 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: such they're so simpatico. It's like it's like if a 189 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: mother and daughter could be soulmates. Like that's literally like 190 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: what this thing was. And so it just it just 191 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: felt like her her natural intuitive instincts was like I 192 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: would want this. I think someday she want this some day, 193 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: So I'm going to make sure that I don't rob 194 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: the future. 195 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: I completely agree with that. It's it's like she she 196 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: realizes that once that initial wave of despair wears off, 197 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: you might want to go back and look at that 198 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 4: stuff someday and there will be happy memories there instead 199 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 4: of the painful ones. So keeping that door open. 200 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: All right, So we have I think one of the 201 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: most painful scenes that I've seen is is is Rory 202 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: forcing her mom out of bed at six am. I 203 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: really felt for her, Did you not feel for her? 204 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 4: I thought it was unusually bright for six a m. 205 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: Like the sun was out and it. 206 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: Was like, how are you sleeping through that? Anyway? It's 207 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: so bright? 208 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, But when she rips the covers off of her 209 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: and She's like, that. 210 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: Was funny that prest and and then she comes downstairs 211 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: and she finds that Rory has rear arranged the furniture 212 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: in the living room. How did that hit you? 213 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: Huh Well, immediately, the first thing I thought was like, 214 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 3: she woke her mom up at six am, which I 215 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: means she rearranged the furniture at Like, I'm like, what, 216 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: that's insanity to me. 217 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: That's a little strange. But you know, she's got that 218 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: energy she doesn't know what to do with, you know. 219 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: I mean, everybody deals with it her own way and 220 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: won't wallow, but she'll rearrange all the furniture. 221 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: And that leads me to the next segment is the wallowing. 222 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: That's what Laura I advises her daughter to, You gotta wallow, 223 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: but Rory she doesn't really want to wallow. So so 224 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: Laura I kind of gives into this list that Rory 225 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: made of things that she wants to get done, and 226 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: getting a garden hose to go to the recycling center. Man, 227 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: what a kid? What a kid? All right, So Rory 228 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: won't even walk by dosies, and she won't cut across 229 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: because you know, the school, because you know, Dean plays 230 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: football there once in a while, so they can't go 231 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: to Luke's. They have to get to Luke's and how 232 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: to what are security is? 233 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna go through the tresure, Yeah, right. 234 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: And once they get there, it's it's it's a it's 235 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: a packed six a m crowd. 236 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: Her reaction so funny. It would be who were all 237 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: these people? What is going on? It's so funny. 238 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: And and you know, we see Rachel come down in 239 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: a flant, you know, flannel, and she's serving food and 240 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: greets them and pours coffee for them. Where's Luke and 241 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: the whole thing? So you know, now Laura la is 242 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: again her her mind is is turning a little bit 243 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: about still from the previous episode, like where's mind? She 244 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: can't seem to like all these other people around me 245 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: are having this drama. They're they're hooking up, they're breaking up, 246 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: and like me, it's like I can't even yeah, get 247 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: the first. 248 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: Base I have. 249 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: I have like released unusually strong feelings about this scene. 250 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: And then also like when she ends up like with 251 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: Max because again and Luke being my favorite character in 252 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: the show from like the. 253 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: Pilot, I am so all in on Luke and Loreli. 254 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: It's not even funny. 255 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: So any diversion from that just feels so like frustrating 256 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: to me. So like Rachel was immediately she's a lovely woman, 257 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: wonderful actress. 258 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: She doesn't but like the every little like pained look. 259 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: On Laura's face like hurts me when she's when she's 260 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: thinking about Rachel every time, Like you know, you say 261 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: the sweet thing to Laura I, but it's but you're 262 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: missing the connection. Like I Just'm like, but this is endgame, 263 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 3: this has to be like so I so I love Rachel, 264 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: great character, but I was just like, this is not 265 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: didn't have. 266 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: A chance she really yeah, but delightful actress, and she 267 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: did a great job. She just did such a great 268 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: job being a rival without trying to be a rival, 269 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: just being herself. Really great performance. And you know, Rory 270 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: a little paranoid. You think she thinks everybody's looking at her, 271 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: she thinks everybody's away. I liked them as Patty scene. 272 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: It was pretty funny. And then she cops to it, 273 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: yes we've heard, we just want to help out. And 274 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: then Kirk's APOLOGI into Laura for not warning her about Dan. 275 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: So funny and it really showed like how quick the 276 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 4: gossip mill in Stars Hollow works because it's only been 277 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: like eight hours and it was overnight. Like how does 278 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: the whole town already know by them in. 279 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: The next. 280 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of the most for me, the most 281 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: charming parts of the show is just like whenever you 282 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: get these like these little slices of small town, like 283 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: how that that whole community works and the way I mean, 284 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: in some ways, it's like it's overwhelming how much everybody 285 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: knows about each other and how many fingers are in 286 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: the pie. But like it's I just have always found 287 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: that part of it so so charming and like it's 288 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: almost like a little it's like a warm blanket that 289 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: just like wraps you up in their combined love. So 290 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: those moments I love them so much in the show, right, just. 291 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: Another reason to love the show. Yeah, you think Laurel 292 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: is feeling any jealousy toward Rachel because I can't I 293 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: can't really read her. What do you think, Because Laurence, 294 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: it's really great. It just sort of covering stuff up 295 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: and letting it sort of come through the eyes a 296 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: little bit. You know, what do you think? 297 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: I think there was some jealousy there. I think she 298 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 4: was a little taken aback to see Rachel serving coffee 299 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: and you know, when she was saying, you know, oh, 300 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: we we had a late night, so I made him 301 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: take some time on all PM or what you know, 302 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 4: whatever she said, Laurela I was kind of like, hmm, 303 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: so I kind of like that Rachel Luke Loreli dynamic, 304 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: like that tension, and it's it's kind of fun to 305 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: see Luke thrown off his axis a little bit, because 306 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: Luke seems to be confused by it too. So yeah, 307 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: I think Laurel I was there was some jealousy there. 308 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: We've seen Luke on the receiving end of this, now 309 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: now Laurel I is receiving it a little bit. 310 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: I think the thing that's what's so interesting about it 311 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: is like if it was almost like even like the 312 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: jealousy part of it, sort of feeling it came from 313 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: the fact that she was able to. 314 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: Knock you out of your routine, like lu Luke is 315 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: so Luke, and. 316 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: The fact that she somehow managed to get you to 317 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: sleep in a little bit is like WHOA. That's different 318 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: than just like hooking up with the hot girl. That's 319 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: like that's something else and comfortable. 320 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: It's like being comfortable and settled almost. Yeah, you know 321 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: something unnerving about that for laurl I maybe all right, 322 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: so the list, she comes home with a finished list. 323 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: Babette comes over now here. Here we have a perfect example, 324 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: yet again of Sally Strauser's stealing a scene, uh and 325 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: just having one scene an episode and you just don't 326 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: forget her. She's so memorable, she's so good, she's so funny. 327 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: What if she was her dialers She said she got 328 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: I got thrown out of. 329 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: A moving car, pushed me into a moving car, wants 330 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: or something like that. 331 00:16:53,320 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: It was so funny, but you know, a terrible thing, 332 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: but she just turns it into gold woman. So Rory 333 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: overhears this conversation with Babbett. She any think it made 334 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: her sad, made her angry? What how does Rory feel 335 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: this moment? She goes back into her She goes back 336 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: into her room, closed the door. She thinks maybe she 337 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: wants a little more anonymity. She's this small town thing 338 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: is really getting to her. Everybody knows my business, this 339 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: even this embarrassing business. 340 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the I think she feels like the 341 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 4: town doesn't really know what happened, right, And so she 342 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 4: probably kind of feels like everybody's getting in her business 343 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 4: and they're making assumptions that aren't necessarily true, and we're 344 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna see this again with Jess. After the 345 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 4: car accident, the whole town was blaming Jess, and she's like, 346 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: it's not his fault, it's not his fault. So I 347 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 4: think she kind of just feels like, you know, this 348 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: is my thing, just. 349 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: Let me deal with it. 350 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 1: All these expressions of love and support, you know, from 351 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: Luke with a fight and be Bet with a coming 352 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: over to comfort. Everybody wants to comfort her, but it's like, 353 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: leave me alone, right, And it's really again part of 354 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: the charm of this small town. It's like she doesn't 355 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: know how lucky she has it until she leaves that 356 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: place and missus. Ever, that's why she's gonna miss everybody's 357 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: because they care that much. 358 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: So for second, it felt like the wheels might come off, 359 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: Like when she lays on the bed, you like, oh, 360 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: maybe this is where she finally feels her feelings. And 361 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: then you almost see You're like get a little mad 362 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: at the fact that the wheels almost came off. And 363 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: then makes that decision to leave that small. 364 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: Town and go do the party. 365 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought she did a really great Joba 366 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: job of playing like there's like three or four like 367 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: really kind of important things going on inside her that 368 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: she was able to sort of get across without like 369 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: much dialogue. 370 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: And I think it was just. 371 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: Then she finds the flyer for Madeline's party, and oh 372 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: what what a party that will be. So she doesn't 373 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: really want to she doesn't want to dwell on the breakup, 374 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: and she kind of uses that party as a distraction. 375 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: And wouldn't you say everyone in town, as we see, 376 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: wants to comfort How would you handle this as a 377 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: sixteen year old? How's a sixteen year old supposed to 378 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: handle something like this? 379 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: You know, I feel I would be self conscious, like 380 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: if all these people were coming up to me, like 381 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want all that attention. 382 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, her going to the party makes a lot 383 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: of sense, Like go someplace where you can like it's 384 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: a good distraction. It's people that don't necessarily know all 385 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: of your business. I totally get, like why that would 386 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: be the go to thing to try to like get 387 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 3: pack those. 388 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Soulaine comes over, they get ready for the party. 389 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: LAURAAI gives Rory some money and a phone just because 390 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: she needs it. And then Rory finds the corn starts 391 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: Dean gave her to give the course. I found that 392 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: very funny for some reason. And then Laura l I 393 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: finds her box what was in her Max her own box, right, 394 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: the Max box or she goes through the Max box 395 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: all right, So she's thinking her thoughts. She's in the 396 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: middle of this, uh, this this tornado of emotions from 397 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: her daughter. And then she settles down and she realizes that, well, 398 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: maybe she needs to get a life herself a little bit. 399 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: She misses all the drama of life. I guess instead 400 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: of tending to it, she wants to experience it. I 401 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: like that Laane took Rory out to the party good 402 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: good chaperone or good friend to be with her best friend. 403 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: I don't know how they got missus Kim to be 404 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: on board with that though, Right, how did Lane get 405 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 4: out for the evening? 406 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: Question? 407 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: That's a very good question, because that's you know, it's 408 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: like out after nine pm or ten or something. Yeah, 409 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: because Paris left at ten thirty. That was her, that 410 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: was her witching hour. And they were still there. 411 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: I thought there was a really cute sort of interaction 412 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 3: in that, Like, normally, if you're going there with your 413 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: friend and be supportive, the last thing you do is 414 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: sort of like hook up with or like spend time 415 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: with a boy, because that would be triggering. But she 416 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: ends up like spending you know, doing all those dances 417 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: and keeps going back. And I love that Rory wasn't 418 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: like affected by that. She was just she was happy 419 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: that somebody was there and she was out, and she 420 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: was sort of happy for her friend having a good time, 421 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: and I kind of I love the fact that that 422 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 3: didn't evolve into like a pity party or a wedge 423 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 3: between them. It just ended up being like this really 424 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: fun way of going through it. 425 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 4: She just pulls a book out of her bag and 426 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: sits down to read. 427 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: She was like, so we'll get into that in a 428 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: little bit, but let's let's go to Suki's. Larela heads 429 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: over to visit Suki in what was a bizarre and 430 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: wonderful scene of perfectionism and control over your mate. He's 431 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: Jackson's making her dinner, and she cannot contain herself as 432 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: as the perfectionist chef that she is and Jackson kicks 433 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: Suki out of the kitchen. What do we think of this? 434 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: This was a true well, this is one of the 435 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: funniest scenes. This is really trufic. What do we think 436 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: of this? 437 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 4: It was a little tense for me. I wasn't a 438 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: huge fan of this scene Suki. I love Melissa McCarthy 439 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 4: and I love Suki and Jackson as characters together. I 440 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: just felt like she was a little all over the 441 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: top on the controlling. 442 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: Piece of it. 443 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, she's so ocd about that stuff that, like, 444 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: I like I sort of got where she was coming from. 445 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: I actually had like a I don't I don't mind 446 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: uncomfortable comedy. And I actually thought this scene was a 447 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: really good example of like how Gilmore Girls is really 448 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: like a comedy with like a ton of heart, but 449 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 3: like it doesn't it's not afraid to get a little 450 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: silly and and. 451 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 2: Sort of push the boundaries a little bit. 452 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 3: And I mean, for the like when when they're fighting 453 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 3: and Jackson's yelling at her saying this is supposed to 454 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: be romantic, she yells back, it is like there's just 455 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 3: some I thought that was just so like I think 456 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: two people have to really be in love for that 457 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: to be funny, to be able to watch that and 458 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: think that the exchange is funny. So I I thought 459 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: it was a really charming and a very again sort 460 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 3: of Gilmore Girls sort of scene. 461 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 2: I know. I know what you mean about. 462 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: It being like a little uncomfortable, because it's like it's 463 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 3: a it's a pretty intense reaction of what's going on. 464 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 3: But I for whatever reason that it's supposed to be romantic, 465 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: it is like saved it for me in a week. 466 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's so it's it's uncomfortable because 467 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: it's real and it just happened. Yeah, I mean I've 468 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: been in those situations. It's been in those situations. I know. 469 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's like you get into like the silliest 470 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: stuff with your with your better half, and that is I. 471 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: Also THINKI does a great job of being like the 472 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: barometer for the audience. She doesn't seem particularly concerned about 473 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: the fight, so as an audience member, I wasn't concerned 474 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: about the fight either. 475 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's she's sitting in the background eating The orders 476 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: just are. 477 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: Like fine, right, right, So she borrows Suki's car. Did 478 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: you know exactly where she was going. I thought she 479 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: was going to Christopher's. 480 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know. 481 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. 482 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: I didn't know either. 483 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the two. 484 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I suppose I could have connected the dots 485 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 4: because she goes, she gets the box down, and she's 486 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: looking at that book, and then she needs to borrow 487 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: Suki's car, Like I should have put the dots together 488 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 4: the bed. Yeah, I didn't the first time I saw it. 489 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to recuse myself from analyzing this scene, so 490 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: you too take it away. What do you think of 491 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 1: the Max Medina scene. 492 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 3: I love the monolog at the door, like, I think 493 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: that that's so classical Lorelai, just the stream of conscious 494 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: and I love how like so much of that was related. 495 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: My daughter's going through this thing, she's feeling this thing. 496 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 3: She won't acknowledge it. I realized I cannot give her 497 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 3: proper advice because I went through this thing and I 498 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: did not process it. 499 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: And now I need to. I need to do the. 500 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: Big girl thing and figure out my feelings, partially so 501 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 3: I can be a better mom. But also she's probably 502 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: a little like ready to go in the moment. But 503 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: but you know, I just I love the way that 504 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: that whole sequence started. That monologue is so good. 505 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And I mean I think in retrospect, 506 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: you know, they end up in bed together and she's like, well, 507 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: I didn't know that was gonna happen. I think she did, though, 508 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 4: because she specifically she had to go, like she went 509 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 4: and borrowed Suki's car to do this, Like she couldn't 510 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: have waited until the next day if it was just 511 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 4: going to be a conversation. I don't know, but I 512 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 4: agree that the monologue was funny. It was just the 513 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 4: two of them together I thought were funny with the 514 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 4: table and he's putting the table in between them like 515 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 4: it was. I thought it was. 516 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: I thought it was a funny scene. 517 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Question, is Laurla exhibiting post break gup energy or you 518 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: think she actually misses him? 519 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: See, I don't know for sure. 520 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: If it wasn't seeing Luke with Rachel, that is ultimately 521 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 3: like messed her up. Like if if he's doing that 522 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 3: and he's got Rachel and he had a late night, 523 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 3: you know, and I have these weird, unresolved feelings and 524 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: I may I don't know, Like I feel like there's 525 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 3: a lot there's a lot going on there. 526 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like she probably thought that they still 527 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: had something because when they when they left it off, 528 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: they were at that coffee shop and they were basically like, 529 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: you know, let's just give it a break and see 530 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 4: what happens. Like they didn't definitively break up, you know, 531 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: not to get too far into friends. 532 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: We were on a break. 533 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 4: But yeah, like the the door was basically still open, 534 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 4: so she may have been like trying to test the 535 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: waters and kind of you know, see how he felt 536 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 4: about it. 537 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: Do you guys feel that the energy between them, the 538 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: chemistry between them, makes the likelihood of them ending up 539 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: in bed together somewhat inevitable or do you feel it 540 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 1: was forced? 541 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is is like once they start 542 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 3: going after it, you know what I mean, like before 543 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: they stop and put the table between them, I mean, 544 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: it feels like this was always going to happen, like 545 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: that there is some like chemistry there and there is 546 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: like a need on both of their parts to like 547 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: have this happen. 548 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I. 549 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: Feel like there was like in that moment, the chemistry 550 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: was a little inevitable. 551 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you think it was? 552 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: In? 553 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I mean It was just 554 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 4: a few episodes ago that we saw Lorelei and Christopher 555 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: on the balcony, like, so clearly, once that ball starts 556 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: rolling down that hill, well it's just picking up speed. 557 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 4: So you know, Laurlay is not the type that she's 558 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 4: gonna pump the brakes and be like, wait, you know, 559 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 4: let's not do this. So I think it it was. 560 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 4: I think it was definitely heading in that direct. 561 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: Laurela I says she didn't give the idea of being 562 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: together with Max much thought, she contradicting her own advice 563 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: that she gave to Rory. 564 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, do you. 565 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Believe laurel And when she says that she didn't think 566 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: about him at all because she didn't want to get 567 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: stirred up, what you're buying that, Well, it kind. 568 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 4: Of goes back to everybody handles a breakup in their 569 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 4: own way, Like Laurelai's way of handling that clearly was 570 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: just to suppress it and not deal with it, which 571 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: was working okay for her until then Rory kind of 572 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: threw it back back in her face. It was like, well, 573 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: how long did it take you to get over Max? 574 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: And that's when she had to realize, well, wait, I 575 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: never really did get over him, So I mean it 576 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 4: just that's just how she, yeah handled it. 577 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: And I also feel like she's she has enough stuff 578 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: going on in her life, whether it's like with work 579 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: or she's so attentive and so focused on Rory that 580 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: like I could see her potentially compartmentalizing that and like 581 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: pushing it aside and like do just doing the other thing, 582 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: you know, dealing with her mom, dealing with her daughter, 583 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: dealing with work, and like and for for a certain 584 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: amount of time, being successful at like pushing it away. 585 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: But but yeah, I think I think if anything was 586 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: going to break through that it would be Rory's distress, 587 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: which you know, would trigger her having to deal without herself. 588 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: What do you think do you think that she she's 589 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: sort of fooling herself a little bit, Scott. 590 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: I've recrused. I've recused myself in this conversation. I cannot 591 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: be a proper jurist by offering an opinion. Uh, okay, 592 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: let's get to the party. This was fun. I love 593 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: this party scene, great party, seeing, great house. Yeah, just 594 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: altogether fun. Fun fun. So Rory Lane start gushing over 595 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: how big Madeline's house is. We find out, it's the stepfather. 596 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: He's in Japan. Matdeal. Glenn and Louise present themselves and 597 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: wonder where Dean is. Paris is left with Rory and Lane. 598 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: Lane meets Paris for the first time. What do we 599 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: think of that? 600 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: So funny? She's just so curmudgeony. It's just so funny 601 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: to me. 602 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Lane held her all though she wasn't intimidated by these. 603 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: No, she was not. Well, She's got to deal with it. 604 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: It's Paris chopped deliver. It's like, you know, she's she's 605 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: got the A player Paris. Paris is the C list 606 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: compared to her mother. Tristan gets into an argument with 607 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: his girlfriend Summer. What do we what do we think 608 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: about these scenes? 609 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: That's the one I think. 610 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 3: I think the I think the Summer stuff is like, 611 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: it's a little tough for me. She's like after the 612 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 3: previous episode, like where they're making out so like frantically 613 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: at the lockers, for her to be so like directly 614 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 3: callously mean to him in front of people, I had 615 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: a hard time like figuring out like where that was 616 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 3: coming from. Even if she was like getting tired of 617 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: the all your my girlfriend's stuff, and if he was 618 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: a little controlling or whatever. It just it was so 619 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: aggressive from the beginning. I was a little like I 620 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: was a little thrown off by by the dynamic. 621 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I was like, kind of wait, 622 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: where is this coming from all of a sudden, Like why, Yeah. 623 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: She's just like it kind of attacks him, and he's 624 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: so shocked by it. He doesn't really know how to 625 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: respond other than sort of whining, you know. Yeah. 626 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, for a dude that's usually so self assured, it 627 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: was kind of an unusual reaction to harsher than I 628 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: would have expected treatment. 629 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I wanted to know more as to want Hey, 630 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: this was happening, but he was I don't know, she 631 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: was dancing with another guy or something like that. 632 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: Was she like locked in a room with somebody for. 633 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Right rights? 634 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 3: Like of course he's going to be frustrated, like want 635 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: some more information. 636 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was back on his heels. He didn't know 637 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: how to deal with that, and he certainly, uh did 638 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: not make a good showing in front of the entire party. 639 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: And then a boy asked Lane to dance. Lane likes 640 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: him and he's Korean and he's going to be a doctor, 641 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: and he's cool and you know, it's how to dance. 642 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: It's like, what the heck is going on? 643 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: The perfect guy for her and it completely freaks her. 644 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: Out and it can't so it can't work. 645 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: It's so so funny because I I, uh, like, my 646 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: my wife has like a funny relationship with her mom 647 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: where sometimes like like you just have to be sort 648 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: of contrary just because and so the idea that Lane's 649 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: mom would have liked it was is like the deal 650 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 3: breaker for her is just it's funny dynamic with daughters 651 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: and their moms. 652 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, there wasn't a great scene Lane enjoying herself and 653 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: liking somebody, and it was so refreshing. Yes, she's always 654 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: so thwarted and frustrated. 655 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 4: It it was nice to see her getting something that 656 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: she wanted. 657 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: Like, yes, it really was. And then we get to 658 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: the point where Rory Paris has to leave, right, but 659 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: parents just biding her time. They do the whole French thing, 660 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: the French water, the Frenches, very funny, and Rory sits 661 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: down in a back room, a side room and starts 662 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: reading her book. Uh and then lo and behold here 663 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: come you know the you know, the two little Einstein's 664 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: coming in to the to the room and breaking up, 665 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: and uh, Tristan is publicly shamed and embarrassed, and he 666 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: notices Rory but scampers out to seek refuge with one 667 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: of the best grand pianos I've ever seen. Wasn't that 668 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: a gorgeous piano? 669 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? 670 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: The wood on that to finish on that, Yeah, that's 671 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: the only thing I could look at during the scene, 672 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: is like, I just wanted everybody to get out of 673 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: the way of the piano. Stop talking, let me see this. 674 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: So Rory goes into the room and you know, they 675 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: start talking about they start talking about the breakup. What 676 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: you guys think of this? 677 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 2: I thought it was cool. It was it was interesting. 678 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: I I think the one of the nicest grounded moments 679 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: was you know after you know, Tristan's sort of a 680 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 3: jerk in the beginning, like what are you doing here? 681 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to talk about stuff. But when he 682 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 3: apologized is for being sort of so mean to her whatever, 683 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: it didn't feel false or forced or it just felt 684 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 3: like a I understood how the kiss could happen after that, 685 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like they actually seem to 686 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: connect a bit and like and like genuinely feel like, oh, 687 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: you're the person who just broke up with you as 688 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 3: an idiot. Like none of that felt like contrived to me. 689 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: It felt like you two people hurting, there's some common ground. 690 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 3: He apologizes for something and they have a moment. 691 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: Like it worked for me. 692 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I I'm semi on board with that. I agree. 693 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 4: It was like two people that both had, you know, 694 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: were experiencing a cute pain and they kind of turned 695 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 4: to each other. I could totally see how that kiss happened. 696 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 4: But to me, Tristan is such a dirt bag that 697 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 4: I don't feel sorry for him at all, Like I 698 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 4: have zero sympathy for him, and so when he's trying 699 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 4: to you know, when he apologies, it seems like it 700 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 4: was nice. But then when we see, knowing what happens 701 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 4: in the next episode, like he doesn't like a leopard, 702 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 4: doesn't change his spots, so he goes back to, you know, 703 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 4: being his dirt bag self. So I can, like, I 704 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 4: totally get how the kids happened, but I just wish 705 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 4: she had not been so nice to him. 706 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's talk a little bit about why Rory is 707 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 5: talking to Tristan so closely about her breakup. 708 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: And that she actually seems to be relating to Tristan 709 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: or is she just lost? What do you think? I 710 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: know we've talked about it a little bit, but do 711 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: you think that she's just so lost that she's stucked 712 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: into this this vortex, this Tristan vortex? Because you know, 713 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: you're right, he's he's abominable, right, He's just hard to 714 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: hard to like? 715 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,479 Speaker 3: Is there something This is a stupid middle aged dude 716 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 3: making it, making a guess about a teenage girl, But 717 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: isn't there something too, Like when you're you go through 718 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 3: a breakup or something like that, and you you can't 719 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: help but be drawn to the bad boy, the guy 720 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: that's like, the guy that's a problem, the guy that, 721 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 3: like your mom wouldn't approved it. Not that she was 722 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 3: like looking to to hurt her mom, orny that sort 723 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: of stuff, but just like you kind of do these 724 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: self destructive things sometimes, especially if you're not processing your 725 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 3: feelings right. So, so the idea of like there's this 726 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: guy who's really good looking, he might be a we 727 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 3: seem to be connecting. I'll snatch a kiss off this dude, 728 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 3: Like I don't I don't know if there's some some 729 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: self medicating that she thought. 730 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 2: She would do. 731 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 3: And then but that's the thing that unlocked the Oh 732 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: my god, I'm broken and I need to go feel 733 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: my feelings now, you know. 734 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: But again, middle aged, middle aged dude taking a while. 735 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: Yes, but that's good, that's a good analogy. She probably 736 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: felt like she's really scraping the bottom of the barrel. 737 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: Now what is she doing? Wow? Yeah, you know, I've 738 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: just I've just ended something that was genuine, that was 739 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: truly loving and supportive, you know, And now here I 740 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: am with this dipstick, you know. 741 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I think self medicating is a good way 742 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 4: to put it. It's like she figures at this point 743 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 4: like she's got nothing else to she's got nothing to lose, like, 744 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 4: you know, why not? 745 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, now we're home and this I remember 746 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: this scene. I knew how this was going to end 747 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: because it was such a perfect ending and it had 748 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: to go here and it is heartbreaking. And she comes 749 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: home and sees Laura Rory eating ice cream and she's 750 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: ready to wallow. Rory cries on the couch, Laura Leo 751 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: orders the pizza. I mean they're boom boom boom. So 752 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: we love these two really, at least see them they 753 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: really got each other's back. So what do you think 754 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: of this thing? Guys? 755 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 4: It was the classic mother daughter like it always comes 756 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 4: full circle, you know, back to the two of them. 757 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 4: I thought it was a great ending and Laura La 758 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 4: I knew exactly what she needed as soon as as 759 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 4: soon as she saw her. 760 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was I thought it was perfect. I really did. 761 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 3: And again even as like a you know, I'm I'm 762 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 3: I've been divorced, I'm happily remarried. All that is good, 763 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 3: but like it just immediately like hits you with the 764 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 3: feels like you just remember what that felt like when 765 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 3: something that you cared so much about was taken away, 766 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 3: and then once you were finally ready to like feel it, 767 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 3: like it just it hits you so hard and then 768 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 3: there's nothing you can do. 769 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: You just have to wollow. Like eventually you just have 770 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,320 Speaker 2: to get to the point where you have the cry. 771 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: If you've got somebody there there to hold you, you 772 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 2: know that's better. You know that's perfect. 773 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 3: But but I just I just thought it was like 774 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 3: the perfect ending for these two episodes to wrap up 775 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 3: this way. 776 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: It was. 777 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: It was perfect all right overall, let's uh one to ten, 778 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: what do you what are you giving. 779 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 4: It, Susan, I'm gonna give the it is an eight 780 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 4: point seventy five. 781 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was good eight point seven five? 782 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,479 Speaker 4: What oh eight point seventy five? Books in Rory's book? 783 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: Bang, Jason, what do you think? 784 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 3: I would give it a solid nine? This this the 785 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 3: episode works for me for a jillion reasons. The only 786 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: reason I wouldn't give it a perfect tennis because, like 787 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 3: I said, I'm so invested in in Luke and Lorelai 788 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: that like, I don't want to see I don't want 789 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 3: to see Luke with Rachel, and I don't want to 790 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 3: see Lorlai with Max. And also the breakup being a 791 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 3: little odd for me with Tristan and Summer at the party. 792 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 3: But other than that, it is I think it's just 793 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 3: it's a beautiful episode. 794 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: Well, I agree. It was uh not as full of 795 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: laughs as a normal episode is because there was so 796 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: much high school drama and adult drama. But it was 797 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: really well thought out, well written, very entertaining episode. It moved, 798 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: it really moved, and that party scene was just great, 799 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: wasn't it. I think I'm gonna get I'm gonna put 800 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: it up there. I think about an eight seven eight 801 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: seven five. I'm right there. I'm up there with you guys. 802 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it eight point seventy five French waters 803 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: in strange looking bottles. 804 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 2: I would give it. I would give it nine perfect 805 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: cups of coffee at loose. 806 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: Okay, nice, All right, Jason, it's been really great catching 807 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: up with you. Please come back. We appreciate your time 808 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: and your insights to Saint France. It's always a pleasure. 809 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: I missed the old crew, Like you have no idea. 810 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: I love what I'm doing now, but you guys are 811 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: out there having so much fun. You're like superstar. You're 812 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: all superstars now. Anyway, I just wanted to let everybody 813 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: know that's listening. A weekend in the Life Decade Days 814 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: con April twelf through thirteen. 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