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Speaker 1: Coming up on Booth Review. I'm Bram Weinstein. This is

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Speaker 1: now a person known as Big Fletch.

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Speaker 2: That's for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you know what it feels like to

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Speaker 3: be an undrafted rookie try to make a ball club.

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Speaker 1: And how about Jayden Daniels getting set for the regular

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Speaker 1: season and Drake May who we saw last night looked

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Speaker 1: pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It did look pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Big Flesh loved the energy and the excitement and antesty

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Speaker 3: that you want to get with Booth Reviewed.

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about what dan Quinn is bringing here

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Speaker 1: in Ashbourn in that energy and intensity. It's all coming

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Speaker 1: up right now. Welcome into the first official edition of

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Speaker 1: the Booth Review podcast with my man London Fletcher. I'm

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Speaker 1: Bram Weinstein. We spend our Sundays in the case of

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Speaker 1: the preseason, are Sunday nights in the Booth together every

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Speaker 1: single week and I'm psyched to do this with you

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Speaker 1: on Mondays to kind of pick your brain. But what

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Speaker 1: we saw on Sundays and in this case get ready

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Speaker 1: for the regular season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited about this, this opportunity for us to

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Speaker 3: kind of debrief, yes, the game that we just call

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Speaker 3: then I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: People ask me all the time, like for a former player,

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Speaker 3: what's it like being in the booth? I say, man,

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Speaker 3: unless you're like coaching, the next best thing to me

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Speaker 3: is calling the game. And to be able to call

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Speaker 3: for and cheer for. I don't think it gets much better.

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Speaker 3: So I love my job. Let's let's let's just get

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Speaker 1: And for me, it's like it's the closest thing I

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Speaker 1: like you, but I feel like it. And that's why

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Speaker 1: we can't do this. After the game, we're both too

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Speaker 3: So you you started doing the games two years prior

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Speaker 3: to I came on board, Yep, your first game, were

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Speaker 3: you like mentally exhausted, like just like because my first

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Speaker 2: When the when of that game?

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Speaker 1: So mine was weird because my first game calling for

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Speaker 1: So we were in the stadium against Philadelphia, but nobody

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Speaker 1: And I think of it on Monday as like almost

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Speaker 3: For you the type of prep you think about ninety

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Speaker 1: And you may not have it was the Jets. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's where we fake it. If you ever

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Speaker 3: Lot of times I wouldn't know you to say that

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Speaker 3: This is the best job. I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to recap preseason with you here a

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Speaker 1: the regular season, where I think we can focus in

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Speaker 2: And that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: That's a great thing if your dad Quinn in the coaches,

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Speaker 1: It's the only way I can call a game.

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Speaker 3: Imagine what the tape of Bay Buccaneers coaching staff is

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Speaker 1: It's interesting a couple of weeks ago when we went

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Speaker 1: Because Miami has they can do that, the number one

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Speaker 3: You think about this, Mike McDaniels, he's now in his

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Speaker 3: What you selk about describing how the sideline is reacting

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Speaker 3: But that communication, that's what he's talking about hearing you

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Speaker 3: But I'll say this the thing about Dad Quinn from

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Speaker 1: If you have to heart with good people, the shirt

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Speaker 3: The fans we see Sundays or they see Sundays or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even from my vantage point, like as

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean the best things that I've I've

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Speaker 1: the preseason. But from last night, let me just ask

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Speaker 1: you broadly what stood out to you last night from

440
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Speaker 1: the Commanders?

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Speaker 3: What think going into that game? There was a lot

442
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Speaker 3: of that last preseason game. There's a lot of anxiety

443
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Speaker 3: for a lot of players that are considered on the bubble.

444
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Speaker 3: My rookie year, I was a bubble player. That final

445
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: preseason game, you going to like, man, you put so

446
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: much pressure on yourself to go out and perform. For

447
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 3: some this could this that could have been their last

448
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 3: opportunity to play in the National Football League. For others

449
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: they rise to that cage and others fold. I thought

450
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Speaker 3: guys that you know, kind of were in position battle,

451
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Speaker 3: so to speak, you know, the defensive tackles. Some couple

452
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Speaker 3: few guys stood out and played extremely well. There were

453
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Speaker 3: some guys who made it to where the coaches are

454
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Speaker 3: going to have to agonize over who to keep, whether

455
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Speaker 3: it's at running back position, defensive tackle, secondary, some of

456
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Speaker 3: the offensive line, some of the position groups that things

457
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 3: are still set of where you want to make these

458
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: coaches have to agonize and say, man, I want to

459
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Speaker 3: keep this guy, but I really like this guy. Can

460
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Speaker 3: we get him through the practice squad or do I

461
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Speaker 3: you know, just agonizing over those final roster spots, and

462
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Speaker 3: I thought several guys may make cases for themselves, you.

463
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Speaker 1: Know, on the point of them pressing a little bit.

464
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Speaker 1: Quinn talked about that Wednesday going into the game. He

465
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Speaker 1: said he felt it on the practice field that he

466
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Speaker 1: could see that there were some guys that were starting

467
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Speaker 1: to feel the pressure of the moment and even said

468
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Speaker 1: that he spoke to the team in halftime about it

469
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Speaker 1: and said, let it go. This is you know, you're

470
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Speaker 1: playing a half of football, whether it's your first in

471
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Speaker 1: the next in line here or your last here and

472
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Speaker 1: somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Let it go.

474
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Speaker 1: You saw what happened in the second half.

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's you can tell yourself, this is

476
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Speaker 2: just again, go out have fun.

477
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Speaker 3: It's tough, man, I'm telling you, I've been in that

478
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Speaker 3: spot and you want to go out and you just

479
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 3: like you can overstudy, you can overthink things, you can

480
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: over just like, it just gets so tight to where

481
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: you almost paralyze yourself in what paralysis through analysis, you're

482
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Speaker 3: not able to go out and perform, and then eventually

483
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Speaker 3: you're able to just exhale, which in the second half

484
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Speaker 3: I thought some guys really really mad, made some strong

485
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Speaker 3: cases for themselves.

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Speaker 1: You never thought you were ready to cut my rookie year.

487
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Speaker 2: I was undrafted, right, Yes, you walked.

488
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Speaker 1: In knowing that the odds are stacked against.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as a as an undrafted free agent who was

490
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Speaker 3: fourth on the depth chart at middle linebacker in the

491
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Speaker 3: in the preseason and training camp and all those things. Yeah,

492
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Speaker 3: there was absolutely a situation where like, man, I'm I

493
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Speaker 3: don't know if I'm gonna make this team. My goal

494
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Speaker 3: going into that into that sea training camp or preseason

495
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Speaker 3: was to make the practice squad. I was a Division

496
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Speaker 3: three undersized middle linebacker, where we may have twelve plays

497
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Speaker 3: in a in a period of defense, I might get

498
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Speaker 3: one snap. I might not get any snaps. So you're like,

499
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Speaker 3: you don't know. Or you're playing the first preseason game

500
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: and played three plays or fourth six plays, whatever the

501
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Speaker 3: case may be, so you don't really know them. And

502
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Speaker 3: and going to that fourth preseason game, although I had

503
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Speaker 3: ascended and you know, went moved up to I think

504
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Speaker 3: third on the depth chart and second as a as

505
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: a backup nickel linebacker and playing you know, all the

506
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Speaker 3: special teams, you still just don't know if you're shown enough.

507
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Speaker 3: And even after that last game, I played well, so

508
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Speaker 3: to speak. I played a lot, played probably three and

509
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: a half quarters of that game all the special teams.

510
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 3: Was exhausted. Had about fourteen fifteen tackles, but I remember

511
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 3: missing about three or four and I'm thinking, man, I

512
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: man just cost myself a rouster spot because I missed

513
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: told you missed three tackles even though I had about fifteen.

514
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Speaker 2: Right, So that's that's the kind of anxiety that you had.

515
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Speaker 1: Were your coaches communicating with you throughout the process or

516
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: were they letting you guess whether you were safe.

517
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Speaker 3: My linebacker coach told me, he said, hey, London, the

518
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: way you're going to make this team is going to

519
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: be as a nickel linebacker, so you know, playing playing

520
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: the nickel sub defense.

521
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Speaker 1: They told you what you needed to do.

522
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Speaker 3: And he also said special teams like he wasn't. I

523
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna make the team, so to speak, as a

524
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Speaker 3: middle linebacker. I was gonna be making a team as

525
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 3: for special teams and as a sub sub linebacker nickelbacker,

526
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Speaker 3: even though I felt like I was the best middle

527
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Speaker 3: linebacker on the team.

528
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Speaker 1: Hard to hear.

529
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: For me.

530
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Speaker 3: I was weird because I thought I was the best

531
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Speaker 3: middle linebacker on the team even though I was.

532
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: Fourth on the depth chart.

533
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's just me and my ego

534
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: or confidence, because I'm looking I'm like, man, I'm making

535
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: more plays to these guys. But for him to say

536
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: that to me, I was like, dang, you're not even

537
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: looking at me as a true mental linebacker. You're looking

538
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 3: at me as a you know, a backup linebacker and

539
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 3: also a special teamer. So it was it was good

540
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 3: on his part to let me know, hey, you really

541
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Speaker 3: need to focus in and lock in on this element

542
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: of it. But you know, I still was like, man,

543
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: I want to be a starter.

544
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

545
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: So, and this this was later, and this was probably

546
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Speaker 3: maybe going into the third preseason game. He may have

547
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: told me that. Yeah, So it wasn't like early in

548
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: the process.

549
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Speaker 1: So at least they're telling you at that point, hey,

550
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: you can make the team.

551
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: This is how you see you're going to do it.

552
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Speaker 1: Okay, So it's perfect segue into a couple of players here.

553
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Speaker 1: Let's see what directions should we go the undrafted free

554
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: agent Tyler Owens or the established player Jamon Davis who's

555
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: being asked to do things that he hadn't been asked to.

556
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Speaker 2: Do in his career.

557
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Speaker 1: Let me let me start with Owens, since it seems

558
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: to be somewhat akin right. Here's a guy who's been

559
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: flashing in camp, standing out, making plays on special teams.

560
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: Did it again against the Patriots, but the odds are

561
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: stacked against them. Go look at the safety group. It's

562
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: one of the deepest on this team. So as you

563
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: kind of think about him and his story and what

564
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: he's done, what comes to mind about Owens?

565
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Speaker 3: Well, I think, first and foremost, he's taken advantage of

566
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Speaker 3: every opportunity he's had been given. Going back, you know

567
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: from the ot as a mini camp, he continues to

568
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: make plays. You go to the first preseason game, he

569
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: made plays as a gunner on special teams. So I

570
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: tell you first the number one and fastest way you

571
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: want to make a team as a as an undrafted

572
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: guy or or a rookie, special teams. Showed your value.

573
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: He's covering kicks, He's showing his ability to do that.

574
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: And then when you get your opportunities in base defense,

575
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: show up. He's shown up, and we can think of

576
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: a couple of times in the in the Miami Dolphins game,

577
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: he showed up making plays. So he's he's putting himself

578
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 3: in great position to have the coaches like, man, this

579
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 3: is he's he's in that mix from a you mentioned

580
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 3: Jamon Davis playing a new position, being a off the

581
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Speaker 3: ball linebacker to now being asked to be a rush

582
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Speaker 3: defensive end. That's a that's a big jump. Rushing the

583
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: passer is totally different than being a blitzer. It's a

584
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 3: different sales skills said. You got to learn how to

585
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: rush tackles and work on your moves. I think Jamie

586
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: has embraced it, and you can see him getting better

587
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 3: each and every week. Yesterday he did he made some

588
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 3: more plays at that defensive position. The game against the Dolphins,

589
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: he he did some great job. He did a great job,

590
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: got to sack, but also just doing making plays that

591
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: defensive hands need to make.

592
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Speaker 2: If you're going to play in the National Football League.

593
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Speaker 1: So let me go back to the coach told you

594
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: you need to do these specific things to make this team,

595
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: which is I don't think that's the exact wording that

596
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: they're saying to jam and Davis, but they're asking him

597
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: to do this. The willingness to do it, the enthusiasm

598
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: to do it seems to go a long way for

599
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: him if you listen to the coaches that they're willing

600
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Speaker 1: to be patient and you know, learn with him as

601
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Speaker 1: he goes along in this process. But if you pushed

602
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Speaker 1: back at all, I'm not sure we'd be having this

603
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Speaker 1: conversation about probably.

604
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: Be you know, maybe looking to move him because if

605
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: he if he's not truly embracing that role, he's not

606
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: gonna give full effort and he's not gonna be the

607
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: best version of himself. So he it wouldn't work out

608
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: it wouldn't work out for him. But the fact that

609
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: he's been open and like willing to say, all right,

610
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: you know this is what this is how you all

611
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: see me being able to contribute to this ball club

612
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 3: and let me work hard at it, working on your

613
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: craft with the coaches, the position coaches, whether it's Darryl

614
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: Tap and also Ryan Kerrigan, and then just working each

615
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: and every day to get better and truly embracing that.

616
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: As you think about it, what he's been trying to

617
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: do from the spring until now, how difficult is it

618
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: to ask him to do the things that he's doing

619
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Speaker 1: at the NFL level.

620
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: Extremely difficult.

621
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Speaker 3: I will say this, it's great that he's still relatively

622
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: young making that switch is this is his fourth year.

623
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Speaker 3: And the reason I say him being relatively young, it

624
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: makes me think about when Andre Carter was here. Andre

625
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: Carter was a rush defensive end and a four to

626
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: three defense for probably his first nine or ten years

627
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

628
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll take this back.

629
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Speaker 3: He was drafted as a San Francisco He was a

630
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: three four outside backer, didn't wasn't great at it. They

631
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: went to a four to three. He sailed and excelled

632
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: at the four to three defensive end. Especially here coach

633
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: Shanahan comes here, we switched to a thirty four defense.

634
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: Drey was coming off an outstanding year in two thousand

635
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: and nine as a as a pass rusher. Twenty ten

636
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: go to that three four defense. They asked Dre to

637
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: be a stand up outside linebacker. Remember this, it was

638
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: it was a difficult transition to him because he's a

639
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: lot older. You know, It's just it was. It was

640
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: a difficult transition. It didn't work out well for Dre.

641
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: Did He end up going to New England, made the

642
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl as a three four as a four to

643
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: three defensive end. Again being back in this whole position.

644
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: So it's is youth helps. Dray was willing to do it,

645
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: but he just his body style just did work out

646
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: for him.

647
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: Janet hurts.

648
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 1: When he's someone who's getting a big contract, fans are

649
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: putting a lot of pressure on him. If he's not

650
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: making the plays, it gets emphasized over and over. And

651
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: in Jamon's case, he's a first round pick, so everybody's

652
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: watching everything he's doing and they're putting a major spot.

653
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: Like Tyler Owens, undrafted free agent, he's a great story right,

654
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: he's emerging here. Jamon needs to live up to this potential,

655
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: and that's where the outside noises.

656
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: Definitely has to be Michael Parks's esque. He's all to

657
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: speak for for the fans to be like, oh man,

658
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: he's he's living up to the billing. He has to

659
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 3: be getting constant pressure on the quarterback, stopping a run,

660
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: doing all these things, getting secks and all that.

661
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: That's that thing.

662
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: Doesn't just uh switch, the switch does doesn't just switch

663
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: just like that. You have to go through the process,

664
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: and he's going through that process all right.

665
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: Last thing on Jamen, a lot of players did not

666
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: play last night. When asked about it, dan Quinn said,

667
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: you're barking up the right tree that these guys are

668
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: pretty much safe to be on the roster for the

669
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: fifty three the initial fifty three man roster he did

670
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: play last night. Do you read anything into that thing

671
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: I'll rate.

672
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: Into it is he's planning a new position.

673
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: They want to get him as many reps as possible

674
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: at that position. So that's that's what when when he's

675
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: playing into the fourth quarter, he's raw, he's planning a

676
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: new position. Let's get him as many reps as possible

677
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: plan that new position. I don't read into it anymore

678
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 3: than that.

679
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's gonna be an interesting decision because it's

680
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: very heavy group there. They did draft Javonte John Baptiste

681
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: and kJ Henry's had a very nice camp as well,

682
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: had a sack in the New England game. So the

683
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: edge rush interesting choices. They spent money on George Armstrong,

684
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, he is safe here. Dante Fowler comes in

685
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: from Dallas, so there's not room for everybody. So this

686
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: is going to be an interesting group that they have

687
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: to think about.

688
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: D Q has also said that they've they've also still

689
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 3: got Jamins some opportunities at linebacker and maybe in practice

690
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: and the meetings and things like that, but he still

691
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: has that versatility to still be a linebacker off the

692
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: ball for them especially. We don't know how to McGee situation,

693
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: how long Jordan McGee will be out injured. I don't

694
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: think it's truly settled at who will be the number

695
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 3: three linebacker at the inside linebacker position. You know, is

696
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: that person currently on our roster? Is it somebody? Some

697
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: moves still to be made, is it Jamin? Things like that,

698
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: So we don't know those things so that's why they

699
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: still have that ability to play Jamine at both on.

700
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: McGee as a knee injury and is unlikely to be

701
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: ready by week one. There was a rule shift this year.

702
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: You can put two players on IR before announcing the

703
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster and they can come back. That

704
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: used to not be the case, used to have to

705
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: put somebody on fifty three then put them on IR,

706
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: so you kind of lose a roster spot for a

707
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: day or two while you do that. They changed this

708
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: for two players. I don't know if McGee's gonna fall

709
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: into that category for that, but they can use that

710
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: mechanism and put short term my R on him and

711
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: still have fifty three other players. So it's an option.

712
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: Great rule.

713
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy because some of these things the NFL

714
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: is like, man, this just seems like common sense type

715
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: thing where let's put these guys they on the IR.

716
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 3: Hopefully they'll get beyond just two players, because I'm sure

717
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: there's probably you know, four or five guys that could be.

718
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: You know.

719
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: The object was to stop the wealthy teams from stashing players.

720
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: That's all it was. That's all it was.

721
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: It was like, you can't put a bunch of guys

722
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: on ir just to keep them away from everybody else,

723
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: is all it was.

724
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: That's all. Don't penalize.

725
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 3: I've drafted will or I've acquired good, good football players.

726
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to safety then, right. That's

727
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: a position group where I think they got a lot

728
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: of thinking to do, especially with the emergence of Owens.

729
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: How are you thinking about that group?

730
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: Man?

731
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: I love that safety group. A lot of versatile, a

732
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: lot of playmakers.

733
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: Might be the strongest on the team.

734
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, bring it in.

735
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: Jeremy Chad his ability to play the middle of the field,

736
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: be down in the box. You can probably have him

737
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: as a as a kind of a Buffalo Nickel type

738
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: of guy. Kwan and his versatility. Then you got a

739
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: Butler Percy. Butler has played extremely well. I think he's

740
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: been a guy that you know, has really ascended under

741
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: his new coaching staff. I know he played, he started

742
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: a lot of games last year, but you could see

743
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: him playing at even higher level in the preseason. Jammer

744
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 3: Reeves is taking advantage of his opportunity. Derek Force, who

745
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: was a you know what, four interception guy a couple

746
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 3: of years ago.

747
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: You know he's he's in that mix.

748
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 3: I mean you look at all those guys, Dan Tyler Owens,

749
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: I mean a dominant captain.

750
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: There's some players in that group.

751
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 3: Man, they got they gonna have a tough, some tough

752
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 3: choices to make in that safety group.

753
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: Feels like Hampton being moved into more of a linebacker

754
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: position was partially it might be a skill set and

755
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: move for him, and partially might be safety is so

756
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: crowded that it's gonna be difficult for him to make

757
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: the team in that that group, which is these are

758
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: the good decisions that you have to make if you

759
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: have too many players that you like and you have

760
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: to make very very difficult decisions about them. You work

761
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: the roster around the best way you can to keep

762
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: as many people as you want.

763
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it have to.

764
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: He's he's shown the ability to do both great size

765
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: with six two six three two hundred and twenty pounds

766
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: when he played the middle linebacker position or linebacker position,

767
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: didn't look out of position. He there's some you know,

768
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: there's some broadness and that that he'll gain from just

769
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: experience of playing a position. You know, he had a

770
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: he had a little tug on a on a play

771
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 3: a pass defense, pass interference against the Dolphins, and that's

772
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: just him, you know, getting a little bit more season

773
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: and it's easily correctable. So he showed the ability to

774
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: be able to play the linebacker spot. But also in

775
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: that same game against the Dolphins, he went back and

776
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 3: played safety, so to be able to you almost get

777
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: a two for one with him again, it's it's it's

778
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: gonna be a tough choice to how many safeties you keep,

779
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 3: You keep forty, keep five.

780
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

781
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see how this roster taste takes place,

782
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 3: but there'll be some good football players that don't make

783
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: this initial fifty three or fifty three man roster, and

784
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: it's just a that's just the reality of this business.

785
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: I am about the corner position as well. I think

786
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: someone we were watching last night and it's really emerged

787
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: through campus to recastro fields to a very nice camp

788
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: for them, and I think he's made things very difficult

789
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: on them to make a decision, as that group seems

790
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: pretty deep now as well.

791
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tarik, he really he really jumped off off the

792
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: screen for me last week against the Dolphins. You got,

793
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: you know, chicking a newseum. He's making plays. Undrafted guy,

794
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: a kid out of Colorado State.

795
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: You got agony.

796
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: I've been practicing it for three months. You know what,

797
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 4: if I'm looking at it, I can say agony. You

798
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: know he's a he's another guy that did those cornerbacks.

799
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: I mean it's I don't know how many corners you keep?

800
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: Like are you keeping five corners as well?

801
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: So it's a again, good football A lot of good

802
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: football players in that group.

803
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: I thought. I thought Manuel Forbes has said that we Forbest.

804
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: Has gotten a lot of criticism, But just if you

805
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: watch him carefully and looking at him, I feel like

806
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: he's gotten better.

807
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: They've acknowledged that. And you know what, this one is

808
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: turning into a classic. What everybody is saying about him

809
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: on the outside, I don't think is how they feel

810
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: about him on the inside. Like there's a couple of

811
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: things that really stand out about this And this is

812
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: partially just proximity that I have and being here all

813
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: the time and watching his teammates love him. Yeah, and

814
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: that that matters. Like his teammates love him, right, Just

815
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: go watch go, go check out social media if you

816
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: want to see the things that they're posting. But I'm

817
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: telling you like he's got nicknames around here, he is

818
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: friends with everybody here, and the coaches have gone out

819
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: of their way when his name gets brought up. And

820
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: don't think they don't know. The questions come from a

821
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: place of he's this first round pick who's might be

822
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: undersized and burned a couple times last year. Like they

823
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: know where this is coming from, and they're answering it very,

824
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: very succinctly, like we like what he's doing here right now.

825
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: I think they look at him and they go okay,

826
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: like he's never going to be the biggest guy, right

827
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: But the reason why he's here, why he was drafted

828
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: in the first place, and the reason why this team

829
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: is going to like him and want him here, is

830
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: they value getting the ball, and the guy who might

831
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: get the ball the most on this defense is him. Yeah,

832
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: he can run, he's fast, he's got good instincts. If

833
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: you get his confidence up to play in the system

834
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: way you want to do, he will jump routes and

835
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: when the ball comes away his way, he catches it.

836
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: He catches it. So I think that they think that

837
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: there is an upside still on him and that he's

838
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: not as unsafe or in any kind of territory that

839
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: the outside, you know, noise of Twitter and social media

840
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: kind of thinks there is.

841
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: And it's a situation where every corner, every player gives

842
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: up a play. You're if you're in there on that field,

843
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 3: you're between those white lines, you're gonna give up plays.

844
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 3: Offensive players gonna give up player left tackle is gonna

845
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: give up a sack. A cornerbacks don't give up a touchdown.

846
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: That's just the nature of the business. His is so

847
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: magnified because of last season, which I don't think it

848
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: was a fair assessment of him, and you know, it's

849
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna touch on that too much because it's

850
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: a new day, but just watching him, the technique, the

851
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: things that you can tell he's being coached the right way.

852
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: He's he's going out and trying to carry what he's

853
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: what he's learning on the practice field and carrying it

854
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: over on game day. I look forward to just watching

855
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 3: him continue to get better, because I mean, he's a

856
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: young football player playing and playing the most difficult position

857
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 3: on the defense and maybe possibly even with the exception

858
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: of quarterback, cornerback in the national foot may be the

859
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 3: hardest position to play.

860
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, like this is biased. We're here

861
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm rooting for them, obviously, you know,

862
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: I want them to win and I want the best

863
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: for them. But when I see somebody who's getting criticized

864
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: the way he gets criticized, and he does the interviews

865
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: every time he says the right things that he's respectfully

866
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: stand up, I can see how his teammates feel about him.

867
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 1: It is hard not to root for him. I feel

868
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: similarly about Diami Brown through this camp. Like Diami got

869
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism. I think part of it was

870
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: he just wasn't given opportunities in the past. All of

871
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's getting them here in this camp. And

872
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: but what I noticed a couple of years ago was

873
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: when they told him we need you on punt coverage,

874
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: he went and did it willingly. And when you watch

875
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: him on run plays the way he blocks, it is

876
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: no surprise to me that he is emerging as someone

877
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: who's going to have a prominent role here because he

878
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: plays this physical style. He's willing to do all these things.

879
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: Maybe the ball start flying his way and he can

880
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: start to potentially make some catches again. But I get it,

881
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: and he falls into this category. He wasn't a first

882
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: round pick, but he was a high draft pick, and

883
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: everybody's going, what's up with this guy? Why isn't he

884
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: making all these plays? We expect him to do it. Well,

885
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: it's happening now, and it's hard not to like be

886
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: happy for these guys when you see them putting the

887
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: work do it the right way, because this league is hard,

888
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna humble people fast. I don't care what

889
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: round pick you are, but when they start to have

890
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: success and you see the coaches getting behind him, their

891
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: teammates behind him, it's hard not to really enjoy what's happening.

892
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and some guys it just takes a little bit

893
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: longer for you to develop at that level. The thing

894
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: I like and I've noticed about Diami is he's not

895
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: just a deep ball guy any longer or viewed as that,

896
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: because he has such great deep bass speed that you

897
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: know you want to get him deep, going deep. But

898
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: he's showing the ability to catch contested passing, whether it's

899
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: a hitch, a hitch ball, or there was a curl

900
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: rock that he ran against the New York Jets. And

901
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 3: he's showing more routes in his route tree. The wide

902
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: receivers grit and catch that ball and being not being

903
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: you know, timid or whatever, catching in it and getting

904
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: up field like a punt returner on that on that

905
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: wide receiver screen.

906
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: So he's showing more versatility to his game.

907
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: And that Well, you can do that, and you you

908
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 3: have that type of speed, it will you. The ball

909
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: will find you because defenses are going to have to

910
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: respect you a lot more.

911
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: All these issues you can hear, of course on the

912
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: Command Setter podcast, which is a People's Choice Podcast Awards nominee.

913
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: Hopefully next your ours will be as well. We compete

914
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: with them.

915
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: That's the goal.

916
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: That's the goal.

917
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: Let's stay Hey.

918
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: We're coming for you.

919
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 3: Command podcast Dad Quinn has a coaching competition. We're competing

920
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: to geinst the Command Set Up podcast. Compet on the

921
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: Commands set Of podcast too. So can I really lose?

922
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

923
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: No, I'm not on that one. I'm I'm on there

924
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: a little bit, but.

925
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a not enough to be on their side.

926
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: Now it's competition, yes, all right, petition.

927
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: One more player I want to focus in from last night.

928
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: So Chris Paul has been playing a lot at right

929
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: tackle through the summer, played extensively at least three quarters

930
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: last night at right tackle. What do you make he

931
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: was predominantly a guard. What do you make of what's

932
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: going on with him?

933
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 2: Well, Chris is Chris Is.

934
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 3: He surprised me and obviously as a surprise of coaches

935
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: because they they put him out there, because when you

936
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 3: look at him, you get caught up. You don't think

937
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: right tackle body, you don't think tackle body. But the

938
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 3: way he's he's put together, you think, hey, this is

939
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: a guard. But his ability to go out there and

940
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: block defensive ends, he's he's done a really good job man,

941
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: showing that versatility helps too. If you're not a starter

942
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: on the office a line, the more you can do it.

943
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: He's showing the ability to play guard, he's showing the

944
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: ability to play tackle.

945
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

946
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: Heck, he may even be able to play center. So

947
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: if you can play all five spots in this in

948
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: the NFL, and play all five spots on the offensive line,

949
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: that bowls well for you. But I've been I've been

950
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: pleasantly surprised with the way the way Chris Paul has

951
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: performed outside of tackle.

952
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels a little bit like we were talking

953
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: about earlier when you said your coaches told you what

954
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: you needed to do to make the team, that it

955
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: feels like a little bit get out there on the edge.

956
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: We need to see you perform out there. That is

957
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: your path to making this team. Probably as a swing tackle,

958
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: backup guard on the team.

959
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: That's it.

960
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: Man, You if you could do both, especially as a

961
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: say you're a backup lineman and you only can play guard.

962
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: I mean nothing wrong with that, but that's you limit.

963
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: If you compete with a guy who can play guard

964
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: and tackle, yeah, probably keep the guy who can play

965
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: guard and tackle, all things being equal, so to speak.

966
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 3: So the more you can do, you create value for

967
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 3: yourself on that ball club.

968
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: One more person for last night, we have to give

969
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: the flowers to Trace McSorley, who, yeah, grew up in Ashburn, right,

970
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: And like we were talking about earlier, I feel like

971
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: I have the greatest job in the world in broadcasting.

972
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: I get to call the games of this incredible franchise

973
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: that's ninety plus years old that I grew up going

974
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: to games at rfk AT and I wouldn't want any

975
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: other job.

976
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: You know.

977
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: It's a may every time I get to do it.

978
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm privileged and honored to do it. He got to

979
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: put on black but.

980
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 2: Burgundy, right, Yeah, and last week you wore bargain again.

981
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there he was.

982
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: Do you know what color we wore in Miami? Uh?

983
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't remember now either. I think so by tops,

984
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: I think it was white. I don't know. Like I said,

985
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: information jump on Monday.

986
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: When it's over, you just forget it all white in Miami.

987
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Why, We'll have to look it

988
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: up anyway. He's in a home game, leading two fourth

989
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: quarter touchdown drives, trucks, a cornerback gets the gets the

990
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: sideline going nuts for him. So whatever his future is

991
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: here or not here, whatever it may be. Like, I

992
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: know he's been around the league. I know he's been drafted,

993
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: He's played for a number of teams, So this wasn't

994
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: new to be on an NFL field. But there had

995
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: to be something to putting on those walking into that stadium.

996
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: And I know it's a preseason game, but leading game

997
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: winning fourth quarter drives in the burgundy of gold. For

998
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: a kid who grew up in Ashburn, that must have

999
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: been amazing. Yeah.

1000
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: Well, I got to interview him last night on the

1001
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: on the post game show, and I asked him, you

1002
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: know about that, what was it like for you growing

1003
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: up out here in Ashburn and being able to play

1004
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: a game, you know, in the Commander at Commander Stadium

1005
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: for your hometown teams and being able to perform the

1006
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 3: way he performed. And He's like, man, it was a

1007
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: you know, a surreal type of moment for him.

1008
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: To be able to to UH do to do that.

1009
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 3: There was a picture posted recently today on social media

1010
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: of him as a kid at a UH training camp,

1011
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: you know, just being at one of the Redskins training

1012
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: camp back then, but being at one of our training camps.

1013
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: And that's to be able to.

1014
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: Do that, you get a picture with you.

1015
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: I did have a team right who I sign autograph

1016
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: for When I was a player. He was the kid

1017
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: back of the day. That may showed you how old

1018
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 3: I was still playing. But for him to have that

1019
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: moment and play the way he played, I know that

1020
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 3: that had if you feel really good, I mean.

1021
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: For this preseason, what I'm gonna remember is him, you know,

1022
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: doing what he did. He'd been here for two days

1023
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: when he played in the first game, shows up here

1024
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: that moment where he trucked this cornerback and the sideline

1025
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: goes crazy. So here's like, think about the first preseason game. Tresway,

1026
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: who's been here longer than anybody else, Michael and the

1027
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: Ring of Fame, one of the best punters this organization's

1028
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: ever had. Great guy too. He throws his body on

1029
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: the line in the second half of a preseason game

1030
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: against the Jets, and the place goes nuts. And here's

1031
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: the guy who's been here a week and it matters

1032
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: to him. And I think that's the infectiousness that I

1033
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: think we hope we're seeing across the board, the guy

1034
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: who shouldn't be throwing his body around to the other

1035
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: guy doing it in the uniform. You know, that's what

1036
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: I think dan quinin Adam Peters want, That's what we

1037
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: want to see. And it was amazing to see kind

1038
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: of here's somebody who's fighting for a role in the NFL.

1039
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: Here's another guy who is perfectly safe because he's the

1040
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: only punter on the roster and he's annually a pro

1041
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: ball punter. And they're doing the same thing at the

1042
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: same points in time in preseason games they don't count

1043
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: in the standings. Tells you everything you need to know

1044
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: what's going on here.

1045
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: There's a saying they don't count, but they matter.

1046
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't count from a record standpoint, a big

1047
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: picture regular season record, but they matter every time you

1048
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: step between those white lives, it matters. You're putting a

1049
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: you talk about autograph, you're autographing your work, good or bad.

1050
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: With every single performance you have. You're putting your autograph,

1051
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: your signature. You're saying, Hey, this is my work. Are

1052
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: you proud of that work? Are you like, ah, that

1053
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: was my best? That's how that's the standard that you

1054
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: have to play to understand it. I'm signing my name

1055
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: to this work, this performance, I might gonna be proud

1056
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: of it.

1057
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

1058
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: The one other thing that happened last night that I

1059
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: thought was good for you know, the players who did

1060
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: play for the Commanders, was the Patriots are still in

1061
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback race, and Drake May and Jacoby Brissett

1062
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: played last night, So you got to see essentially the

1063
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: starting offense for the Patriots for a full half last night.

1064
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you Drake Neal looked pretty good.

1065
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 3: Drake May looked really good. And I don't know what

1066
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: the decision is going to be up in New England.

1067
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: I know, when you got to look at everything, how

1068
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: how these guys looked in practice, how they looked in the.

1069
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: Prior preseason games.

1070
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: From the game last week that the Patriots had to

1071
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 3: you know, last night, Drake May's looked really really good

1072
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: at the quarterback position. You know, I know earlier they

1073
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 3: were talking about, hey, he might not be necessarily ready,

1074
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: but you know, not being ready going against the New

1075
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: England Patriots defense and practice that the Patriots defense.

1076
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: Gonna be one of the best NFL.

1077
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: They're always one of the consistently becausistently a really good

1078
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: defense for.

1079
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: The last five years, top ten in defense. Mayo has

1080
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: been on the staff of Bill Belichick. It's gonna carry over.

1081
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, him not looking Mayo may not looking good against

1082
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 3: that defense, especially early in the process, doesn't surprise me.

1083
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 3: As he's probably got more experience, He's probably looked a

1084
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: little bit better in practice, and then you carry that

1085
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: over with some of the performance performances that he had

1086
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 3: in the preseason, including the last night's game against US,

1087
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 3: it might end up being Drake may start in a

1088
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 3: Week one for the Patriots.

1089
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine on their Twitter last night

1090
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: after the things I saw that they weren't literally demanding it.

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Speaker 1: I mean the one play that got called back, the

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00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: touchdown to kJ Osborne rolled out to his left, so

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Speaker 1: he's throwing, you know, off his opposite foot a strike

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Speaker 1: down the field. The guy was wide open, but still

1095
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: forty yards down the field got called back for a penalty.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are the moments where you go and

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Speaker 1: this is why we selected him number three overall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Drake through the football extremely well on time,

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00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 3: had great ball placements on some of the routes.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned athleticism.

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Speaker 3: He ran for I think a couple first downs or

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00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 3: at least I know one first down showed that athleticism.

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Speaker 2: He's not Jaden Daniels athletic, but he is.

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Speaker 1: But he's mobile.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's athletic and mobile enough. And you know this,

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00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 3: think about this. There was a big question going into

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Speaker 3: the to the draft, big conversation Jayde Daniels, Drake May

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00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: who we take a number two. I always thought Jayden

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Speaker 3: Daniels was the guy. I mean just that my from

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00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: my stan vanished point of watching Jaydan Daniels in college

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Speaker 3: watching you know what he brought to the table. And

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Speaker 3: the type of stress he would calls on the defense

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Speaker 3: with his skill set. I like, man, this is the

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Speaker 3: guy that I would take.

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Speaker 2: You know. But I thought Drake May looked really, really

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Speaker 2: good in that ball game.

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Speaker 1: It was funny last night on Name Drop here for

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Speaker 1: a minute, I got to talk to Mike Tarrico for

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Speaker 1: our pregame show. So I talked to Mike Tarico last night.

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00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: I'll ask you the same question I asked him, because

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00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: what was it four years ago? Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones, five quarterbacks Top fifteen.

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00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: Similarly this year, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, Michael Pennix,

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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks. Four of the five, well three of the

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00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: five are definitively starting Daniels, Williams, and now bo Nicks

1127
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: has been named. I think Drake May is going to

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Speaker 1: be starting suitor rather than laters of four out of

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Speaker 1: the five, And if Kirk Cousins wasn't in Atlanta, they

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00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: love it what Pennix is doing. He would be starting two.

1131
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: But that year, four years ago, only one of those

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00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: guys still on the same team. Do you think this

1133
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: one's different? Than that one because Caleb, what we saw

1134
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: from May, what we've seen from Daniels, this does feel different,

1135
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: like this is a class that's going to be remembered.

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00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: It feels different from the talent wise, I think this

1137
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: year's class is more talented than that class four years ago.

1138
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: But I also think situations of each franchise, you know,

1139
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: comparing those franchises back four years ago to the franchises

1140
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 3: that these these teams are all going to, I think

1141
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 3: the situations are a lot better and the infrastructure is

1142
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: a lot better. For the twenty twenty four group of quarterbacks.

1143
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: You know, you think about Caleb Williams and the situation

1144
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: that the circumstances he's going into Chicago now as opposed

1145
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 3: to the situation that Justin Fields went into doing Chicago

1146
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: four years ago, much much different situation.

1147
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: I would say this situation.

1148
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: Is probably like give me Dj Moore, Keenan Allen and

1149
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: Rome ma Donze. Let's see what I would do with.

1150
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: The situation that Jayden and Daniels has coming to hear

1151
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 3: Everything's new dan Quinn as the head coach, Clinch Kiff

1152
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: Kingsbury's offense, I mean, all the things this situation is

1153
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: a lot better than probably Zach Wilson went into in

1154
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: New York, you know, several years.

1155
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: Ago, and we can go on and on about the

1156
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 2: other guys.

1157
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: So I just think the talent is better first and

1158
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: foremo with this group of quarterbacks, but also the situations

1159
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: are better as well.

1160
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Speaker 1: I mean nothing to certainty. I mean New England is

1161
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: picking your quarterback again. New England is in that group.

1162
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is not there, and New England was a dynasty,

1163
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: so look like it's not like they didn't know what

1164
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: they were doing up there. So want to see how

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00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: it plays out.

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Speaker 3: Bow Knicks has CHOHn Payton as his play caller. I

1167
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: think Mac Jones in his second year had Matt Patricia

1168
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: has his play caller. Matt Patricia was a heck of

1169
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: a defensive play caller. I don't know about him as

1170
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 3: an offensive play caller, So just the situations and circumstances matter.

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Speaker 1: Jade Daniels played three series in the preseason. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the starter in a couple of weeks against Tampa Bay.

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00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: I assume you saw enough.

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00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw enough, man, I saw plenty man.

1175
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 3: The kid just he's so talented, but his approach is

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00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: what you appreciate the most. His the work ethic, the humility,

1177
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 3: the i the embracing, the grind, and the requirements that

1178
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 3: it takes to be a quarterback in the National Football League.

1179
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: That requirement is unlike any and all of sport. There's

1180
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 3: not a harder position in sport than quarterback. The hours,

1181
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: the mental preparation and physical preparation that it takes, and he's,

1182
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: as a rookie, is willing to put in those those

1183
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 3: hours physically, mentally and mostly that it takes to be great.

1184
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: He's doing those.

1185
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 3: Things and then you see what he's been able to

1186
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 3: do from a talent standpoint so far in his career

1187
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 3: and this young young his young career.

1188
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: The Sky's a Limit.

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Speaker 1: Next Man Up podcast, by the way, had him as

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00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: a guest recently with Doug Williams Colbert Junior guys. Doug

1191
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 1: who Jane Wore's jersey to the first game. I thought

1192
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: that was really cool when he did that. And of

1193
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: course Doug was a star quarterback with the Tampa Bay

1194
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: Buccaneers before he ended up winning a Super Bowl with Washington.

1195
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: To a lot of synergy, there is Jade and tape.

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00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: Play is his first game in Tampa in the hopes

1197
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: that maybe we'll have another MVP Super Bowl MVP quarterback

1198
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: one of these days. Not to put too much pressure

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Speaker 1: on the let's just you know, we can dream a

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00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: little bit.

1201
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, we can dream a little bit here.

1202
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: All right, last thing, preseasons done. What did you take

1203
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: from camp in the preseason as they heading to the

1204
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: regular season.

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00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: You know, I take I took the fact that you know,

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00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn came in here. He talked about you're gonna

1207
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 3: appreciate our play style and the way we play football

1208
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 3: and certain certain physicality, speed cultures, all those things you

1209
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: saw that I saw that.

1210
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: I saw. I saw that type of play style.

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00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 3: And just think when we see the start defense out

1212
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 3: there collectively, I think we're going.

1213
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: To see that any even heightened level.

1214
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: And you know when you see Bobby Wagon out there

1215
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: flying around making plays and doing those types of things,

1216
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 3: you know, we there's been a lot of roster turnover.

1217
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: The guys that what over thirty seven players on this

1218
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 2: team could be new.

1219
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: It's going to be something that they've made this a

1220
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: more competitive roster. I look forward to seeing all this

1221
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: stuff kind of come together, especially and we eight nine, ten,

1222
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: see how much further along will be as opposed to

1223
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 3: Week one, two and three.

1224
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what was amazing was back in the spring

1225
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: dan Quinn shuffled the lockers around. They're not standing next

1226
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: to each other by position group anymore, because he was

1227
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: just acknowledging this is all new for everybody. Get used

1228
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: to the new normal around here. These are your new teammates.

1229
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: And I'll go back to what I saw on the

1230
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: sidelines at the ends of these preseason games, what I've

1231
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: seen in practice. There's just a general enthusiasm and camaraderie

1232
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: that has really grown. And that's very promising. Like I

1233
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: don't know what that means for what their record's going

1234
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: to be, but what they're saying, they said is going

1235
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: to happen culturally. You see the signs of it, and

1236
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: that that's really positive.

1237
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: It really is.

1238
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: And man, I can't wait to see, you know, week

1239
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: one down on tap of Basie out all of folds.

1240
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: You and I'll get to talk about it. You know,

1241
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: we'll get to call.

1242
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: A game, but then we also get to kind of

1243
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: regroup the next day and on this podcast and talk

1244
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: about it again.

1245
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: All right, last thing last week they're telling me in

1246
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: promotional materials and even on this sheet of paper that

1247
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: I have that you are big Fletch for this podcast?

1248
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1249
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll be calling you London for two and

1250
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: a half years. I didn't know I was supposed to

1251
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: call you big.

1252
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: Fletch, big flesh. Yeah, that's my all to ego.

1253
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you want that in the booth or just here.

1254
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: Too.

1255
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: All right, listen, you won't be to go to another

1256
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: level call me big fletch. You see that London. You

1257
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: know that's big Fletch. Oh, he's a guy.

1258
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: All right.

1259
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see how liberally we use that, and

1260
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: then we'll see if Logan gets jealous. It needs a

1261
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: nickname himself.

1262
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what. We're gonna call Logan a big

1263
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: country out of.

1264
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: Well to see. All right, this was fun, look forward.

1265
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: We'll do this next week. We'll focus add to the

1266
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: regular season in Tampa Bay. This has been booth review

1267
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Speaker 1: on Brad Weist and that's Big Fledge.