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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to Move the sticks. Presented by

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Speaker 1: Castro Allege, DJ, Bucky are with you today? And Buck?

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Speaker 1: I feel like today, as we're kind of really kicking

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Speaker 1: they are underrated, but they have tremendous value when it

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do that. Not talk quarterbacks here, We're talking

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Speaker 1: running backs. Doug on it. And let's start off here

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Speaker 1: with the running back we love on each day of

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Speaker 1: Day one running back you love Naja Harris from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Naja Harris is a big body runner that every offense

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Speaker 1: was not only because he can bring it from a

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the guy who I believe the best

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Speaker 1: look here at Buckey's top five receivers ranked in the

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Speaker 1: How you doing, man? How you feeling? Yeah, I'm going there,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling great. I want to start. First question, just

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Speaker 1: His ability to cover um is outstanding. He has the

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Speaker 1: ability to cover in the slide. He can take away

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Speaker 1: the deep ball in the post as a deep middle defender,

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Speaker 1: and he is terrific if you're one of those teams

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Speaker 1: that likes to play split safety coverages. He has those

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Speaker 1: abilities and he's also settled in the ring game. I

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Speaker 1: like him. I think he is the right pick, the

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Speaker 1: right fit for what the Jaguars want to do in

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Speaker 1: the back end. Yeah, I think he's complete safety. That

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Speaker 1: versatility I think is gonna play well or Meyer's gonna

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Speaker 1: love that just always around the football as well. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we we mentioned at the top, this is a team

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Speaker 1: that's got to rush the pastor better. We haven't done

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Speaker 1: that here for the first two picks. Can we find

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Speaker 1: one with pick thirty three? Yeah? Pickular you think I

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Speaker 1: think is a nice pig because this player will be

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Speaker 1: able to rotate in with Calebon chasing Josh Allen. How

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Speaker 1: about Joe trying on from Washington Man long range, heavy handed,

447
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Speaker 1: does a great job of getting to the quarterback. They

448
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Speaker 1: need more bodies, more horses in the stable that they

449
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Speaker 1: can unleash to get after the quarterback. He is one

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Speaker 1: that will certainly help them improve their sack numbers and

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Speaker 1: their overall ability to pression the quarterback. And I saw

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Speaker 1: a picture of him the other day on on social

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Speaker 1: medi I want to say was Instagram and dude, that

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Speaker 1: dude is a brick house. Uh. He is big and

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Speaker 1: a physical power rusher off the edge. I think would

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Speaker 1: be a nice compliment to more of that speed rusher

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Speaker 1: that you have there with Josh Allen. His ability to

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Speaker 1: drop and coverage with Josh Allen as well, I think

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Speaker 1: they compliment each other quite well. So that's how we've

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Speaker 1: tried to address the engine of this team Buck through

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Speaker 1: the draft of those first three picks. Obviously, we'll have

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Speaker 1: more options later on in the draft to address some

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Speaker 1: more of these needs, but let's jump onto the add

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Speaker 1: ons here. Uh, this is what we can do through

465
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Speaker 1: free agency to try and add on to this vehicle.

466
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Speaker 1: We've got a couple of players for him. We think

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Speaker 1: that will help, including a player at a position that's

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Speaker 1: the quarterback's best friend and that's tight end. Oh yes,

469
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Speaker 1: they haven't had a big time tight ends as Mercedes Lewis,

470
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Speaker 1: and they need someone that can really control the middle field.

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Speaker 1: How about Hunter Henry coming over from the l A

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Speaker 1: Charges to give them that security blanket in the passing game,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. They have weapons on the outside, but you

474
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Speaker 1: want to make the easy throw right over the middle.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry can do that. Outstanding rouler, runner, good blocker

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Speaker 1: in the run game game. He gives them a veteran

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Speaker 1: presence and so I think he would be a nice

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Speaker 1: security blanket for Trevor Lawrence as he actimates in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. All Right, we we've talked about fixing

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Speaker 1: the engine there at the top with Trevor Lawrence with

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Speaker 1: the first overall pick. I don't know this would be

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Speaker 1: like engine maintenance with this next free agent addition here

483
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Speaker 1: explained this one. Here are our second ad on buck.

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith is going to be released from the Washington

485
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Speaker 1: football team. And so when I think about Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: being out there and available. Uh, he certainly fits the criteria.

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Speaker 1: He played for Urban mar at University of Utah. Trent

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Speaker 1: Balki is familiar with them during their time together with

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners. And then all of the

490
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Speaker 1: things that we've heard young quarterbacks talk about the advice

491
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Speaker 1: and the mentoring that Alex Smith did for them, first

492
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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, then Patrick Mahomes. Even the young quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the room for the Washington football team raved about Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: Who better to bring to Jacksonville to help Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: really acclimate to the NFL game than a guy who

496
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Speaker 1: was a former number one overall vick who has been

497
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Speaker 1: through the ups and downs, who also knows your head

498
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Speaker 1: coach and the coach and that the head coach wants

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Speaker 1: to implement. I think this is a no brainer. Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith will be a great fit for the Jacksonvith Jaguars. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: and Alex Smith might be trying to find his way

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Speaker 1: somewhere where he's guaranteed a starting position. I think if

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence were to show up and show that he's

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Speaker 1: ready to play, you know, Alex Smith would have to

505
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Speaker 1: be waiting in the wings. But man, if you're the Jags,

506
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Speaker 1: you want to bring him in and just say whatever

507
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Speaker 1: you did with Patrick mahomes Uh, do that right here

508
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Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence. Whatever that was, we'll take it. Um.

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Speaker 1: There you have it. There's some some add ons here.

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Speaker 1: And finally the last category, we've got an upgrade. We're

511
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Speaker 1: gonna upgrade the vehicle a little bit. Here was something

512
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Speaker 1: we already have and that's Leavisca Chenault. I want to

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Speaker 1: give you one more next gen stat powered by Amazon

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Speaker 1: Web Services. Here six point four are yards per target

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Speaker 1: for Leavisca Chennault last year. That was the fourth lowest

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Speaker 1: among whiteouts who had seventy five plus targets. Now, he

517
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Speaker 1: did some really good things with the ball when they

518
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Speaker 1: got it to him underneath after the catch. His ability

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Speaker 1: to break tackles make people miss. I love that side

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Speaker 1: of his game. Buck, you can line them up in

521
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Speaker 1: the back field. We know that. But this is a

522
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Speaker 1: guy you go back to Colorado, he made a lot

523
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Speaker 1: of plays down in the field, fifty balls, vertical routes.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they really incorporated him as much in

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Speaker 1: that area, and I would think going forward with Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: uh Man getting more of a vertical attack. I think

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Speaker 1: Lavisco Chanel could be a big part of that. I

528
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Speaker 1: think he will be a big part of it. If

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Speaker 1: you go back and track Urban MIAs history, he has

530
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Speaker 1: always had one of these players in his offense. Going

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Speaker 1: back to Florida, Percy Harvin played in that role, Paris Campbell,

532
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Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel. Those guys are dynamic playmaker's offensive weapons, guys

533
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Speaker 1: that you can get the ball to. I think he

534
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Speaker 1: has to be a more integral part of the game plan.

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Speaker 1: Lavisca Chanel should be utilized and really maximized because he

536
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Speaker 1: does have the ability to put the ball into pain.

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Speaker 1: He's a special player manum as you can see what

538
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Speaker 1: we just did here in the body shop today. It's

539
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Speaker 1: gonna be a big off season for Rban Meyer in

540
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. They've got to go out. They've got

541
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Speaker 1: to nail the draft. They've got to bring in some

542
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Speaker 1: quality free agents. They've got the most cap room of anybody,

543
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Speaker 1: so they've got money to bring in guys on the

544
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Speaker 1: veteran side. They've got a lot of picks to upgrade

545
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Speaker 1: that roster as well, and let's see if they can

546
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Speaker 1: maximize the talent that they already have there, because there

547
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Speaker 1: are some good pieces in place there for the Jags. Well,

548
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, we're gonna be doing this throughout the spring.

549
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Speaker 1: Your team didn't make the playoffs, We're gonna try and

550
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Speaker 1: take you into the body shop and see if we

551
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Speaker 1: can't get you fixed. Be on the lookout next week

552
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Speaker 1: because we're gonna bring the New York Jets into the

553
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Speaker 1: Move the Sticks body Shop and see if we can't

554
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Speaker 1: fix this. Uh. I don't want to say it's a clunker,

555
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Speaker 1: but the car needs a lot of work and we're

556
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Speaker 1: gonna see if we can help the Jets out next week.

557
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Speaker 1: As we continue on with Move the Sticks presented by

558
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Speaker 1: Castro a Ledge, He's scored an incredible seventy five total

559
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Speaker 1: touchdowns during his tenure career in the National Football League.

560
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Speaker 1: Also caught five and fifty four balls over fourteen thousand

561
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Speaker 1: total yards. I could go on and on with all

562
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Speaker 1: the numbers that Matt Forte put up during his decade

563
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Speaker 1: long career in the National Football League. We could not

564
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Speaker 1: be any more excited to have him join us today

565
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Speaker 1: on the show. Matt, we appreciate you taking some time

566
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Speaker 1: for us today. Man, how you doing I'm doing well.

567
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys having me on. Well, we're excited

568
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Speaker 1: to have you. Man. We're we've got something we're gonna

569
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Speaker 1: do today. We're gonna trot this thing out here because

570
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Speaker 1: we're always doing comparisons in the scouting game. You're always

571
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Speaker 1: comparing players, which is gonna lead us to our Pro

572
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Speaker 1: on Prospect feature today and we're gonna be taking a

573
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Speaker 1: look one of the top running backs in this year's

574
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Speaker 1: draft class. That's na J Harris. You see the same

575
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Speaker 1: number there with Matt fourte the double deuce. Big physical

576
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Speaker 1: backs but also very athletic and and Matt, we want

577
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Speaker 1: to kind of take you through some of the things

578
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Speaker 1: that you did well, talk about you know what it

579
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Speaker 1: was that made you excel in those areas, and then

580
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Speaker 1: give you a little bit of tape here on NJ

581
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Speaker 1: to see what you think. I want to start with

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Speaker 1: you catching the football. Your value in the passing game

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Speaker 1: is something that everybody around the league appreciated. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: the numbers five dred and fifty four catches, four thousand,

585
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Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy two yards um. What was it

586
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Speaker 1: that made you so effective as a receiver in this league?

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Speaker 1: I would say, um, just that I wanted to be

588
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Speaker 1: on all well rounded running you know, every down back.

589
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Speaker 1: Then we have to come up to the field on

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Speaker 1: third down. And uh, I know how important protecting the

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Speaker 1: quarterback is, So being able to pick up blitzes and

592
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Speaker 1: read defenses is important. And UM, that was one of

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Speaker 1: the main things that UH kind of sparked me towards

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Speaker 1: being every down back. And then also that, UM, you

595
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: can get mismatches on on guys like linebackers and safeties

596
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Speaker 1: if you know how to run routes like the receiver's run,

597
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Speaker 1: and then if you have good hands and so it's

598
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Speaker 1: really a lot of times like a screenplay or a

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Speaker 1: swing pass, those are extended handoffs. But if you can

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Speaker 1: extend extended that beyond the uh, those those short intermediate

601
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Speaker 1: passes and go downfield or run slants and different things

602
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Speaker 1: like that. UH, as another dimension to your offense. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny, man, because you talked about adding another dimension

604
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Speaker 1: to the offense as a pass catcher. When we look

605
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Speaker 1: at Naja Harris, he certainly has big time ability, but

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Speaker 1: what do you see when you evaluate him and see

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Speaker 1: him ontet when I see him on tele see a

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Speaker 1: big back who UM does have soft hands and can

609
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Speaker 1: catch the ball. I haven't seen a lot of down

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Speaker 1: the field catches, but that's not to say that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to do that, because when I

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Speaker 1: was in college, UM I didn't catch a lot of

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Speaker 1: balls down the field. I've got a lot of screens,

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Speaker 1: a lot of swing passes, a lot of checkdowns in

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Speaker 1: those types. And once I got to NFL, I developed

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Speaker 1: that that UM into more of a receiver type ability

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00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: running option routes, so slants and things down the field.

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Speaker 1: So I think he has the ability to do that.

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Speaker 1: Also see good patients in his running style UM where

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Speaker 1: he can allow his blocks to be developed and not

621
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Speaker 1: get too anxious and try to hit the whole before

622
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Speaker 1: it opens up. So I think that's a great UM

623
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Speaker 1: key to have, not only with vision but with the

624
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Speaker 1: patients to let his box develop. That's great stuff. And

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Speaker 1: I think about backs out of the back field, but

626
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Speaker 1: then they able to put them out in the formation.

627
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Speaker 1: Something you did a lot. You can talk about guys

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Speaker 1: you know what they do after the catch. We're just

629
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Speaker 1: flipping him a flare and just get on the ball.

630
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Speaker 1: But then there's those guys that can do stuff before

631
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Speaker 1: the catch to be able to run you know, angle routes,

632
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Speaker 1: option routes, get down the field, vertical. Something you did

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Speaker 1: I think, not just gonna have a chance to do

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Speaker 1: some of those things you teached on. Um. I don't

635
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Speaker 1: want to get to. Next is your vision because when

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Speaker 1: I go back through and look through your report, Um,

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Speaker 1: that was something that led you to that two thousand

638
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Speaker 1: yards season. They're tu lane your final year in college,

639
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Speaker 1: and we all know that just how outstanding your vision was?

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Speaker 1: Is that? How do you come to that point? Is

641
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Speaker 1: this is this a skill? Is this through study? Is

642
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: this through instincts? You know, what do you attribute your

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Speaker 1: fantastic vision too? I think it's a lot of a

644
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: lot of instinct and a lot of like um kind

645
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: of guy given talent, but also it does come from

646
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: studying um, the defense and on what they do. And also, uh,

647
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: it's so important. I would say vision is probably one

648
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: of the most important things that we're running back. If

649
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: you open up the NFL Bible, the first scripture is

650
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: gonna say where the where there's no vision, running backs

651
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: perish and so you know, when you know the defense

652
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: and what kind of fronts they run, the blitzes and

653
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: slants and the stunts. Sometimes you can get a key

654
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: on where you're gonna go before the play develops, and

655
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: then that just adds to you playing faster. And we

656
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: know how fast the NFL game is compared to the

657
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: position out of college. So um, vision is key, but

658
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: also um not only using the guy given you know

659
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: talent to have that vision, but also using your your

660
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: mind where you can study the defense and know what

661
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. You mentioned vision when you were briefly

662
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: describing nasea earlier. When you see him with the ball

663
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: in his hands as a runner, do you see some

664
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: of those traits? Yeah, definitely. You see he likes to

665
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: get his shoulder scare to the line of scrimmage, which

666
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: is good, and get that early. And then when you

667
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: press the hole. That's the one thing that coaches will

668
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: always tell you when you come out of high school

669
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: and you're in the college and you're trying to learn

670
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: how to transition. And then also sometimes guys don't learn

671
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: it in college because the hole is a wide open.

672
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: But when you get to the NFL, you gotta press

673
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: the hole to make so that your offensive linement can

674
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: get to the second level and get on those linebackers.

675
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: The linebakers are smart. They've seen the inside and outside

676
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: zones their whole career. So if you press the line

677
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: sometimes you can you can make a good cutback run,

678
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: or you can hit the hole right up at the middle.

679
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: One of the things you guys share is your physicality

680
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: and matt when when you look at guys with your body,

681
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: to be able to play with low pad level can't

682
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: be easy, Um, But how important was it for you

683
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: to play with that physical ad? Just a run? It's

684
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: the most important too, besides vision, I would say it's

685
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: too you know, as a tall guy, you know nag

686
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: six to I'm uh six too as well. So to

687
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: be able to keep your pads low. For one, you know,

688
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: he's a he's a lot. He's a little bit bigger

689
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: than I was. He's two thirty I was about to five.

690
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: So uh, you know, you can you know, punish defenders

691
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: in the in the in the third level. And then

692
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: also when you know the game gets going and you're

693
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: in the third and fourth quarter and they think you're

694
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: gonna try to run over them, that's when you run

695
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: by him. So you really can set up a lot

696
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: of runs, um, to make what looks like a ten

697
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: fifteen yard game to be fifty and sixty by doing that.

698
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: And so this game is physical. Um it has become

699
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: more some people say, like a passing league, But once

700
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: you get the ball in your hands, you still gotta

701
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: be physical to be able to break tackles and um,

702
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: especially you know a guy like Nagi with that size

703
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: and if you're able to make the first guy missed.

704
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: Uh that's one of the key factors in in UH

705
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: recruiting a running back that you think can can make

706
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: it at the next level. You Know, it's funny because

707
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: you talk about the physicality. I hear coaches always talk

708
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: about as a runner, you either there hammer or you're

709
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: the nail. When you look at Naja Harris, does he

710
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: have enough of that physicality to be that that fourth

711
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: quarter beast that teams love to give the ball to. Yeah,

712
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: if you look at you know, his stats in college,

713
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he averaged under uh five yards a carry.

714
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: And also he's got good moves. You see the spin

715
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: move right there. And Uh, he's a big guy, and

716
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: I think he knows that. You know, the good thing

717
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: about it is that he knows he's a big guy.

718
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: So when you know that you can use your pass

719
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: to get extra yards and you know, run up on

720
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: corners and and uh force the safeties and cornerbacks to tackle. Uh.

721
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes those guys when he gets late in the game,

722
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: they don't want to do that. So when you when

723
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: you can become the hammer for your team and you've

724
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: got that endurance and uh, the ability to to consistently

725
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: be be that um I think he does and and

726
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: uh the size and the speed that he has will

727
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: aid him and being that oh last thing for you

728
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: on naj here as he's getting ready to bark on

729
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: his journey, coming from a tenure vet who did at

730
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: a very high level, any piece of advice you'd have

731
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: for him, never be satisfied. That's my main advice to

732
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: a guy like him, is that you can come out.

733
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: You can have a good season. You could be the

734
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: league Russian champ one year, and the next year if

735
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: you take it, they're gonna say you all beat up.

736
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: So never be satisfied with just won one great season

737
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: or two great seasons. You gotta be consistent over a

738
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: long period of time. And so uh, if you look

739
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: at it, most of the guys who played ten twelve

740
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: fourteen years or some of the guys like Frank googl

741
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: who's still playing Adrian Peterson. They've been consistent their entire

742
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: career and so that's how you become great. That is awesome, man,

743
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: appreciate you on that, Man, I want I want to

744
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: talk to you a little bit of what's going on

745
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: in the league right now. Um, looking at the quarterback

746
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: position around the league during your time, have you can

747
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: you remember a time where we've seen more shake up

748
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: and what could be more potential shake up at the

749
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: most important position on the field. No, this is very interesting,

750
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: and uh, it seems like there's a end of of

751
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: some guys who are franchise quarterbacks that I guess aren't

752
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: so happy with the franchise and want to move on

753
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: or want to switch teams or whatnot. So it'll be

754
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: interesting to see how it shakes out. But I can't

755
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: remember a time where it was like that. You know,

756
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: sometimes they have a really great quarterback on not such

757
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: a good team and he just played his career out there. So, um,

758
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: maybe guys are speaking up more and they're they're wanting

759
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: to use their leverage of being that most important position

760
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: on the field to Uh, make some changes within the

761
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: organization or to switch organizations. You know, man, you you

762
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: came into the league where the running back was still

763
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: viewed as a marquee position. Now when you hear the

764
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: conversation about running back, you hear people say, well, I

765
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: can get a running back anywhere and just kind of

766
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: plug him and play him. Explain to me why the

767
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: running back still is valuable and why there's a difference

768
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: in those elite runners and the guys that are just

769
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: kind of rotational players. Yeah, there there is a difference,

770
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: and there's a fine line between that because you can,

771
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, plug and play I mean any posi and

772
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: really you can plug and play guys, but when you

773
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: treat your your guys like that, you know, I don't

774
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: think the teams that really do that are that successful. Um,

775
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: And it depends on their philosophy on offense too. You see,

776
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: there's some teams who do do running back by committee,

777
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: but they have that franchise type quarterback who can take

778
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: over and make plays that a lot of other guys can,

779
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: or make throws that other guys can't. So when you're

780
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: talking about um, you know, pass catching running backs and

781
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: every down backs in the league. Those don't come with

782
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: diamond doesn't. And so when you got a guy who

783
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to change personnel with and you can

784
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: do hurry up offense, you know, they know how to

785
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: protect and you have to get multiple guys to get

786
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: in there and change position, you can catch the defense

787
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: off guard sometimes with that. But also when I talked

788
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: about earlier, the mismatches, I mean, if you put you know,

789
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: running back in the slot and the linebrackers gotta cover

790
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: him and he's running all kind of routes, He's running

791
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: corner routs from in the slot and stuff. Linebarkers aren't

792
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: used to garden those guys that can do that. And

793
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: so when you got you know, say a tied end

794
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: like Travis Kelsey and then you've got you know, Tyreek Heel.

795
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: But then you got a running back who can do

796
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: these things and run from sin a rounds, it opens

797
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: up those guys a lot more as well as the

798
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: guy who can catch the ball out of their backfield. Man,

799
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: I want to get your take on this. So we've

800
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: been talking about this for a couple of years now

801
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: and talking with with NFL guys as well as our

802
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: college buddies. Um positionless football kind of where it's going.

803
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: You were one of those types of players you literally

804
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: line up at wide receiver, you can split out, you'd

805
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: be in a slot, you can be anywhere. Um, but

806
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: kind of we're seeing more of this. Bucky's kind of

807
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: called him some of these wingbacks that the Niners have

808
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: used a bunch of these guys where they could throw

809
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: them in the backfield, they can be in the slot,

810
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: you can split them out wide. And then we're seeing

811
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: it defensively with guys that one play might be a

812
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: safety and one play their linebacker. You know, they're flat defenders.

813
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: How much of an advantage is for you offensively to

814
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: have guys like that? And then how much of a

815
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: challenge is it to prepare for a defense when you've

816
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: got guys that can do so many different things. Yeah,

817
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: So obviously the game is you've probably heard it before,

818
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: it's all about matchups, and so those hybrid guys, it's

819
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: hard to get a gauge on those matchups because they

820
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: can do so many things. And it's a threat via

821
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: the defense because you've got a guy who's you know,

822
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: safety size or or actually in between safety linebacker, and um,

823
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: you know he can come down and hit and he's physical,

824
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: but also he's faster than usual you know, the normal linebackers,

825
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: so it's hard for a a lineman to get to him.

826
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: So that creates a problem right there. But then also

827
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: if you've got these guys, you know, we kind of

828
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: moved away from the fullback position. There's they call them

829
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: ah backs now and they can kind of in between

830
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: the fullback and the tight end size and they can

831
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: do many different things. Uh you've seen guys you know

832
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: they can even throw the ball as well being an

833
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: aged back. So, um, it just adds. Like we're talking

834
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: about the different dimensions of an offense, you can't pigeonhole

835
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: that offense into being uh just a running team or

836
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: just a passing team or balanced team. They can do

837
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: many different things and those those hybrid guys really create

838
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: mismatches um on defenses when you know you got they

839
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: don't fit in that cookie or said of my outside

840
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: of lineback or I'm safety or I'm a h back,

841
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm a fullback or whatnot. Oh, this has been awesome, man,

842
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: You've been very generous with your time today. Matt. You

843
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: you're a pleasure to scout, a pleasure to watch. During

844
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: your NFL career, and it's been great to catch up

845
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: with you. Man. We appreciate your time. Yeah, I appreciate

846
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: you guys time too, And keep keep doing what you

847
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: guys are doing. I love watching you. Well. It's one.

848
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: NFL Draft presented by a Verizon is right around the corner.

849
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: All starts Thursday, April twenty nine, as urban Meyer and

850
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: the Jags go on the clock with the first overall pick.

851
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: Make sure to keep following us as the draft approaches

852
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: for most in depth scouting reports and evaluations. All right, buck,

853
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: we are headed into Pro day season. There no combine

854
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: this year, so I would say the pro days take

855
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: on even more significance where we can finally get some

856
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: verified numbers on these guys, not just the testing. We

857
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Speaker 1: don't even know the heights and the weights for the

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Speaker 1: majority of the players in this draft class. So a

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Speaker 1: very important pro day season. Uh. Let's let's talk about

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Speaker 1: a couple of players that have a lot writing on

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Speaker 1: it and uh and let's go with one of piece.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you start us off here we go, Let's

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Speaker 1: go to North Carolina Deamy Brown, wide receiver. He is

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Speaker 1: a big time, big play prospect, someone who specializes and

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Speaker 1: really running the vertical route tree. His ability to get

866
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Speaker 1: open on these go routes really a second to none.

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Speaker 1: And so if you're a team that's looking for a

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Speaker 1: big play threat, someone that can take the top off

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Speaker 1: the defense and give you those explosive plays, Brown has

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Speaker 1: to be near the top of your list. Watching him run,

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Speaker 1: watching him work out at the Pro Day, it will

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Speaker 1: be important to see how he runs routes. Can he

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Speaker 1: do the other stuff that you want your wife receives

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Speaker 1: to do in terms of the an immediate route running

875
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Speaker 1: portion of it, But it's a deep ball threat. He's

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the business. I want to

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Speaker 1: see how he works out. Yeah, no doubt. We know

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Speaker 1: he can get vertical twenty yards of catch getting over

879
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Speaker 1: the top. He was outstanding there. I'm looking forward to

880
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Speaker 1: that Pro day. Man, so many good players at Carolina

881
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Speaker 1: watched him getting out of the break and run the

882
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Speaker 1: full route tree. Will be fun. I'm gonna stay. And

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Speaker 1: this sounds weird in the a c C with Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame was actually affiliated this year. But Jeremiah Woosu Korma,

886
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Speaker 1: their linebacker. Uh, some view him as a safety. He

887
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Speaker 1: was listed at two fifteen pounds. We all agree he's

888
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Speaker 1: a phenomenal, explosive athlete who's a playmaker on the football field.

889
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Speaker 1: The question is where do you play? And he can

890
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Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. Well, he's listened to

891
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Speaker 1: to fifteen. You hear reports maybe he drifted down closer

892
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Speaker 1: to like two oh five at one point time in

893
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Speaker 1: this season. So he's one of those ones. I just

894
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Speaker 1: want to see how big he is at the Pro day.

895
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Speaker 1: Is he gonna try and go up and wait h

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Speaker 1: to kind of kind of play in the box as

897
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Speaker 1: a stack linebacker, or is he gonna try and lean

898
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Speaker 1: up and be closer to two hundred pounds and really

899
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Speaker 1: be kind of that strong safety. So um, fascinating to

900
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Speaker 1: see what teams are gonna where they're gonna put him

901
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Speaker 1: as we go through this draft process. You know, it's

902
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Speaker 1: funny when you talk about where teams are gonna put him,

903
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Speaker 1: because I think he is dynamic. His second level sideline

904
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: sideline billy is really intriguing. But also the cover skills

905
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Speaker 1: that he brings. I don't know if you want to

906
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Speaker 1: play him as a traditional linebacker, but some of these

907
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Speaker 1: teams that are using these position as players on the

908
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Speaker 1: second level, we really find him fascinating as a prospect.

909
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Speaker 1: Ye I know, once you get the third down, he

910
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Speaker 1: can cover tight ends and backs and you could blitz him.

911
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Speaker 1: So that is gonna be very valuable with his explosiveness

912
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Speaker 1: coming into play there. And you add into that the

913
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Speaker 1: leadership and the intangibles, which I've been told are off

914
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Speaker 1: the charts from the folks there at Notre Dame. So

915
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a fun one to watch. The North

916
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Speaker 1: Carolina Pro Day, the Notre Dame Pro Day, all those

917
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Speaker 1: pro days. We're gonna have him covered right here on

918
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Speaker 1: NFL Network, So stick with us. It's gonna be a wild,

919
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: fun ride as we march towards the NFL Draft. While

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Speaker 1: wherever listen you listen to your favorite episodes. One of

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Speaker 1: our shows you might enjoys our buddies at the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, who tackled free agency recently with a

927
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Speaker 1: hint of mirth one on one is is Mitch Rabinsky? Uh?

928
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929
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Speaker 1: you honestly tell me that these men should be separated

930
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Speaker 1: by seventy plus spots? Or you've been drinking this Winston

931
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: juice for so long and now on top of you

932
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Speaker 1: digging in your hills back with West during the times

933
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Speaker 1: of Mariotta Winston back at draft time. Now he's got

934
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Speaker 1: that New Orleans Saints like slickness on him, and you

935
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Speaker 1: love that too, Like, why, how in the hell is

936
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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston a top twenty five free agent based on

937
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: the tape he's put out there there his entire NFL career?

938
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Speaker 1: Come on, now, I did put in the intro how

939
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Speaker 1: I heard West's voice often while doing these, and you know,

940
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Speaker 1: one of it was like you gotta be kin me

941
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Speaker 1: with Jamis wins I mean he would have put him

942
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Speaker 1: at I can definitely still hear West's voice fighting that

943
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Speaker 1: battle with Rosy, no doubt. Be on the lookout. They'll

944
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Speaker 1: read that. Greg's a great job breaking down those free agents.

945
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Speaker 1: They do a wonderful job of discussing it there on

946
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: the Round the NFL pod. Um Let's get you some

947
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: questions here, Buck. I put it out on social a

948
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Speaker 1: little hashtag ask mts said we'd answer some questions here

949
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Speaker 1: as we as we finish up the show. So let's

950
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Speaker 1: knock through a couple of these. I'll give you the

951
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Speaker 1: first one here. Your thoughts on the likelihood the Eagles

952
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Speaker 1: draft a QB at six. You know, I'm fascinated by

953
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Speaker 1: this only because Howie Roseman's comments are ringing in my

954
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Speaker 1: head because he talked about wanting to have a quarterback factory.

955
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Speaker 1: So if you're at six and let's just say Justin

956
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: Fields is there, and you're doing the evaluation between Justin

957
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Speaker 1: Fields and Jalen Hurts or Trey Lance and Jalen Hurts,

958
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Speaker 1: do you want to bring both of those guys in

959
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Speaker 1: and have a quarterback competition because of the money that

960
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: you will allocate, you have ricky contracts, and it's not

961
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Speaker 1: really prohibitive because Jalen Hurts doesn't cost anything after you

962
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Speaker 1: get past the day cap space. I think you'd be

963
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: fascinating to see Philadelphia take that approach because I have

964
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Speaker 1: talked about it, and we've talked about on the podcast,

965
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Speaker 1: taking the collegiate approach with the call it the quarterbacks.

966
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Speaker 1: Maybe this is an opportunity for the Eagles to do it.

967
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Speaker 1: You can upgrade that position to do it. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get one more here. What do we got next question?

969
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Speaker 1: This one? With the increased variation in schemes both offensive

970
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: defensive teams, is gonna put more value on versatility. I

971
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Speaker 1: think that's something that we've always discussed on the podcast Buck. Yeah. Absolutely,

972
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: you're trying to find guys that can do multiple things

973
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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Receivers that you could

974
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Speaker 1: line up in the backfield. Uh, you talk about safety,

975
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Speaker 1: so you could put down in the box or can

976
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Speaker 1: cover in the slot. Yeah, versatility is huge. Yeah, position

977
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Speaker 1: list B ball. We've talked about the league trending that way,

978
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: not only on offense with these wide receivers that can

979
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Speaker 1: play like wing backs and running backs, but defense safety

980
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: is playing like linebackers, corners coming back to play safety. Absolutely,

981
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: we're seeing this shift where versatility is really coveted. Yeah.

982
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: Look in the NFC West. If you want to see

983
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: it on the offensive side of the ball, look what

984
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: the Niners are doing. You want to see it on

985
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, Look what the Arizona

986
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: Cardinals are doing trying to be as multiple and versatile

987
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Speaker 1: as possible. Well, there's been a fun shown today, Buck,

988
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Speaker 1: we had a blast. I want to thank Matt Forte

989
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Speaker 1: for joining us. Is great to visit with him uh

990
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Speaker 1: as well as Jamar Chase. We've had a great time.

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Speaker 1: We do want to encourage you guys to check out

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