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Speaker 3: Well, I know they're lying. They tricked me once, but

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Speaker 3: now Welcome back to the Professor Penn Podcast. David Pen,

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Speaker 3: your host, glad to be with you as always for

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Speaker 3: episode number two forty four, coming to you on this

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Speaker 3: Tuesday night, October seventh, seven thirty pm Central Standard Time,

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Speaker 3: without much delay or ado. I want to bring on

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Speaker 3: honored to have on the show. Mister Mark Mitchell, who

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Speaker 3: is I think your proper proper title is chief Polster.

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Speaker 3: Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Head Pollster, Chief operating Office. There's only four people

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Speaker 3: You know what, a sledgehammer. That's a lot of oomph,

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Speaker 3: you know, I like that for a business model. That's

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Speaker 3: a lot of bang for the buck. Four people in

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Speaker 3: the shop. This is Mark Mitchell from the very renowned

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Speaker 3: Rasmussen Polling, who has very generously agreed to share his

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Speaker 3: time with us today and Mark, this is this is

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Speaker 3: how you do politics. Okay. Now Mark doesn't know me.

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Speaker 3: This is our first meeting, and I was just saying

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Speaker 3: I'm saying to this audience, you know, I would love

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Speaker 3: you are playing a part in this great effort that

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Speaker 3: And this is a political action community, Mark, we are

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Speaker 3: And I tell all these people, whatever we're doing here

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Speaker 3: We just need the spartans. I'm just looking for three hundred.

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Speaker 3: I don't even like the colors. I'm gonna say, from

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Speaker 3: come on. Could you please share with this community who

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Speaker 2: Sure, And what you're saying resonates with me. For sure.

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Speaker 2: We didn't find out about it until the Twitter files.

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Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, the formula is pain, uh, which might not

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Speaker 3: Well, you know that that's such a great segue in

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Speaker 3: now running the DNC. For example, you know Mark Elias

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Speaker 3: of Election Integrity quote unquote fame started in Minnesota. I

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Speaker 3: could go on and on like this, but my point

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Speaker 3: is they ran an hour special on this ABC affiliated

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Speaker 3: network basically saying these Democratic Socialists need to be stopped

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Speaker 3: right now. And what's so interesting and we're going to

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Speaker 3: talk about this the Democrat party on the City Council

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Speaker 3: of Minneapolis. The self about Democrats bought with the Democratic

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Speaker 3: Socialists ninety percent of the time. So I don't know

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Speaker 3: what they're planning on doing over there, because, as you

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Speaker 3: were saying, that party has given over to Democrat socialism,

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Speaker 3: which let's just call it socialism. And Minneapolis is a

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Speaker 3: ghost town. You know, you're a little bit younger than me.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you remember the Mary Tyler Morshall?

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Speaker 2: No? Sorry, I remember it being at night. That's about

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Speaker 2: it all.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Mary Tyler Moore, you know she she was

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Speaker 3: like America's it girl for decades and she had a

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Speaker 3: show which was a legend based in Minneapolis, and it

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Speaker 3: showed this vibrant, wonderful city where she worked in a newsroom.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to tell you Minneapolis, right now, three

448
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Speaker 3: hundred million dollar skyscrapers are selling for six million bucks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is just collapsed.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The Minneapolis police Department is working at probably about half staff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's rough. Okay. So the constabulary of

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Speaker 3: liberal Democrats has now blown the whistle and said all

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Speaker 3: hands on deck to stop the socialists. Well, hey, when

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Speaker 3: you just said, what did you say about President Trump

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Speaker 3: and his support? How much of his support came from

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Speaker 3: non Republicans? That's very critical.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ten percent of it was from Democrats. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 2: the exit polling might not say that, but that's what

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Speaker 2: my polling says, and I believe mine. And yeah, thirty

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Speaker 2: two percent from independence, ten percent from Democrats.

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Speaker 3: And so from my perspective, what I'm trying to do

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Speaker 3: here is to aggregate a new constituency that speaks to

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Speaker 3: all those groups. Like our producer Tanner, who is a

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Speaker 3: kind of a co creator with me on my show.

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Speaker 3: He's twenty five, right, twenty five. He's the one that

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Speaker 3: has really helped me under because the average age of

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Speaker 3: the Republican Party. Of course, you said they're going to

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Speaker 3: die off. It is four hundred and sixty two years old.

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Speaker 3: The crypt keepers are running the party. And Tanner has

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Speaker 3: taught me like I didn't even know his generation refers

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Speaker 3: to himself as the doomers. I didn't know that. And

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Speaker 3: you know, the bleak prospects that when you say, when

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Speaker 3: you say they've never lived in a capitalist society, that

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Speaker 3: they've lived in a kleptocracy. Man, that that hit home

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Speaker 3: with me just now. That's such a great analysis. How

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Speaker 3: can we expect them to embrace conservatism when they've never

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Speaker 3: seen any benefits from it.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting too is that the sort of like

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Speaker 2: donor adjacent people on the right, people who are in

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Speaker 2: spheres of influence, love to pat themselves on the back

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Speaker 2: because they say this generation is more conservative than in decades,

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Speaker 2: and it's absolutely not the case. Like I just put

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Speaker 2: out really mind blowing pulling that I've heard has gotten

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Speaker 2: to the administration, and so I hope it makes them

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Speaker 2: crap their pants. These people are fundamentally deeply messed up

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Speaker 2: and very Yeah, boomers is a pretty good term, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I think they get blamed. It's like, why

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Speaker 2: are these people so weird? Why are they snowflakes? Why

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Speaker 2: can't they just suck it up and pull themselves up

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Speaker 2: by their bootstraps. And it's like, okay, Boomer, you hit

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Speaker 2: five houses and they think they're never gonna get one.

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Speaker 2: It's gotten that bad and everybody acknowledges it. Only twenty

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Speaker 2: two percent of Americans say that today's children will be

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Speaker 2: better off than their parents. That's bleak, Like where the

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Speaker 2: hell is the American dream? And so what I see

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Speaker 2: when I look at these people in pull them is

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Speaker 2: that sixty two percent of them think the economy is

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Speaker 2: unfair to them. Half of eighteen to twenty nine year

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Speaker 2: olds are single, and a forty percent chunk of those

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Speaker 2: people aren't even trying, Like they're just like nope. And

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Speaker 2: it's kind of sad because like the eighteen to twenty

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Speaker 2: nine year old male Trump voters, which is most young men,

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Speaker 2: you ask them how they define success in this NBC

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Speaker 2: poll I saw, and they say, well, I want a career,

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Speaker 2: but I want kids most of all. I want a family,

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Speaker 2: like I want to be married to a woman. Like

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Speaker 2: those are high. It's like thirty five forty five percent

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Speaker 2: of gen Z young men to find success that way.

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Speaker 2: But then when you ask eighteen twenty nine year old

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Speaker 2: women Harris voters, they define success overwhelmingly like fifty percent

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Speaker 2: as a career, Marriage and children is like six percent

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Speaker 2: of them. They just don't want the same things. So

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Speaker 2: it's gotten so bad that they've been taught to want

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Speaker 2: different things out of society. They haven't been brought up

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Speaker 2: into the church. Christianity is ailing them. I've done a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of polling on how de churtrification is really

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Speaker 2: spreading and how in mainline denominations you might as well

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Speaker 2: not even go to church because it doesn't even seem

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Speaker 2: to affect people's value system. And then when you look

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Speaker 2: at the when you look at eighteen to thirty nine

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Speaker 2: year old Trump voters, we looked at all eighteen to

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Speaker 2: thirty nine year olds, We asked them a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of questions about socialism. People who voted for Trump in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four overwhelmingly, by almost eighty percent, support nationalizing

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Speaker 2: major industries like healthcare, tech, and energy. Almost sixty percent

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Speaker 2: of them support excess wealth confiscation, and only one third

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Speaker 2: of them say no when asked if there should be

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Speaker 2: income caps on the wealthy, and they set the income

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Speaker 2: caps pretty low too, not like a billion dollars, And

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Speaker 2: so it's like what it ultimately comes down to. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to define a new political spectrum because like the

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Speaker 2: like Republican Democrat, the fight is so passe. If you

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Speaker 2: run on that, you're gonna lose. But then is it

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Speaker 2: conservative in liberal? Well, the liberal ideology is winning among

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Speaker 2: the left. Liberal is the fastest growing ideological subset, So

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Speaker 2: conservatives losing. But if you look at conservatism, it almost

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Speaker 2: sounds like a luxury belief. Like if you tell an

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Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty nine year old that we're just gonna

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Speaker 2: cut corporate taxes and you're gonna be able to get

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Speaker 2: a job, they're like, no, I can't get a job.

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Speaker 2: Like half of eighteen to twenty nine say that it's

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Speaker 2: not possible for everybody who wants to find work to

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Speaker 2: get a job. So they're going to tell you to

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Speaker 2: screw you. And then the religious battle losing, Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: like eighteen to twenty nine is the ones that go

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Speaker 2: to church go to church a lot, and they're identifying

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Speaker 2: more with traditional things like Catholicism, but they're also overwhelmingly

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Speaker 2: pro choice, like like the Church has completely lost that battle,

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Speaker 2: and then you look at it, it's like, so what

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Speaker 2: battle is left? How do you define the political spectrum?

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Speaker 2: Because political scientists are still using this one where it's

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Speaker 2: economic freedom and then authoritarianism versus libertarianism on the vertical access.

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Speaker 2: And my proposal is that if you want to understand

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Speaker 2: modern politics, the new political spectrum is like fraud tolerance

556
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Speaker 2: versus authority trust. And so sixty five percent of everybody,

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Speaker 2: including a huge chunk most of the zoomers, are down

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Speaker 2: in the lower left quadrant that wants zero fraud. They

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Speaker 2: are sick of it. They don't want this system to

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Speaker 2: milk any more money out of them, and they don't

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Speaker 2: trust anybody in authority, not even Republicans. And then if

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Speaker 2: you look at where most Republican leaders are, they're in

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Speaker 2: the upright quadrant, which means they totally trust the system,

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Speaker 2: they're part of it. They of course, we're not going

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Speaker 2: to hack apart the we're not going to hack apart

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Speaker 2: the CDC, We're not going to hack apart the NIH.

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Speaker 2: These systems have value, like ask any Republican and they'll

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Speaker 2: really tell you that. And then they also have complete

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Speaker 2: griff tolerance, sure, Like, yeah, why would we even make

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Speaker 2: it look like we're going to touch social Security? No,

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Speaker 2: it's it's totally fine. Twenty percent of it definitely isn't

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Speaker 2: going to like duplicate payments to Venezuela and drug leaders.

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Speaker 2: So the problem is is that you have the Republican

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Speaker 2: Party and the core of most voters in complete opposite

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Speaker 2: size of the spectrum. They are totally one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: not aligned.

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Speaker 3: Like, Mark, can I slow you down? Because you know,

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Speaker 3: I like to say back what I think I'm hearing,

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Speaker 3: because I don't want to get this wrong, and I

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Speaker 3: want to summarize this. This is you and me talking

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Speaker 3: if the audience can benefit from this, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: tell you what I heard. What I heard was we're

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Speaker 3: being sold a set of attributes of the eighteen to

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Speaker 3: twenty nine year olds. And I don't mean this in

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Speaker 3: an awful way. I just mean it because it's historically

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Speaker 3: a fact that post the assassination of Charlie Kirk, we

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Speaker 3: got all this information about his cohort on the campus

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Speaker 3: and the great work he was doing there, and how

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Speaker 3: there's this great ground swell of conservativism amongst the young cohort.

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Speaker 3: And what I think I just heard you say is

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Speaker 3: that's not what you're polling has told you. Did I

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Speaker 3: get that correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And listen, the way I've been

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Speaker 2: framing this for people is sure, Turning Point's awesome. It's

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Speaker 2: doing great work, and a lot of people are patting

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Speaker 2: themselves on the back and looking to Turning Point and

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Speaker 2: saying that that's going to save us, and I'm saying, no,

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Speaker 2: the battle is already lost. He really screwed this generation up.

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Speaker 2: They do not have the same values as everybody else

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Speaker 2: in America, and if they get into power, you're not

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Speaker 2: going to like the way it looks and like the

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Speaker 2: freedom aspect. Even even Trump voters in eighteen to thirty

603
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: nine's were only split on whether they would support a

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Speaker 2: Democratic socialist Candidatemocrat socialist. The idea of a candidate winning

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Speaker 2: is like plus twenty with the eighteen to thirty nine

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Speaker 2: year olds, and so probably if you look at Turning Point,

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Speaker 2: the way you can explain it's apparent success is that

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Speaker 2: it's basically a voice in the wilderness and everybody's completely

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Speaker 2: abdicated this battle, like we've hollowed out education. These people

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Speaker 2: aren't being taught are found in principles, We remove the

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Speaker 2: Ten Commandments from the school, we celebrate multiculturalism, and then

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Speaker 2: we dump these people onto the internet, which is a

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Speaker 2: really dark place that is radicalizing them. They are being

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Speaker 2: groomed and parented by basically Reddit, the fifth largest website

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Speaker 2: in the US, and they go onto this online monoculture

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Speaker 2: that's reinforced on like roadblocks and TikTok, and like, what's

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Speaker 2: the response to that. We don't have any solution, period whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: In fact, most legislators don't even understand what Reddit is,

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Speaker 2: let alone the fact that it's probably like the number

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Speaker 2: one thing that is transing the kids. One of the

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Speaker 2: examples that I kind of explained about how messed up

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Speaker 2: this is is like, think about Catholicism. People have said

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Speaker 2: it's resurging, and there's a lot of people, a lot

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Speaker 2: of kids that were raised in Catholic families. Their parents

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: go to church, they bring them a CCD, there's crucifix

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Speaker 2: on the wall, they you know, all this stuff. Like

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Speaker 2: think about the social pressures of growing up in a

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Speaker 2: Catholic household and whether you'll become Catholic or not. Like

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of on ramps. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: chances for you to make that decision for you personally, well,

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Speaker 2: more zoomers identify as gay than identify as Catholic. So

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Speaker 2: there you go. What that was? That was?

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Speaker 3: That was my next You know, I want to review this,

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Speaker 3: and you did it for me. We have this flood

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Speaker 3: of articles which boomers read, Oh there's this great resurgence

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Speaker 3: of faithfulness and church attendance. But actually what you're saying is,

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Speaker 3: I want to just say this back, So everybody here, whre'

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Speaker 3: is this? In this young age cohort? There's more self

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Speaker 3: identifying gay people than there are Catholic people. Did I

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Speaker 3: just hear that correctly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Twenty Yeah, the Catholic percentages like fifteen

642
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Speaker 2: to twenty and twenty three percent according to multiple sources,

643
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Speaker 2: now of eighteen to twenty nine year olds identify as

644
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: the LGBTQ community. And it's like part of that can

645
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Speaker 2: be explained by public school teachers who are probably having

646
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: conversations that are uncomfortable in the way that this is

647
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: probably inserted in the common core and the books in

648
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Speaker 2: the library. Part of it can probably be explained by

649
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: parents having munchaus and syndrome by proxy. Part of it

650
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: can probably be explained by a couple freaky shows on

651
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Speaker 2: Netflix and Disney Plus, but not all right, like if

652
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: something else is going on, And so when you go

653
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: to Reddit, for instance, Reddit for people who don't know

654
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: is basically like a modern bulletin boardmmunity where you can

655
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: go find different subcommunities about certain special interests. And the

656
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: trans community on Reddit is bigger than the Christian community

657
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: on Reddit by a lot. Six hundred and twenty thousand

658
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: people are a member of the trans community, and then

659
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: there's other trans subreddits too, like ask Transgender, where you

660
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Speaker 2: go like let's let's say you're an eighteen Let's say

661
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Speaker 2: you're a thirteen year old and you want to play

662
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: Fortnite and you lose. So you're like, well, how can

663
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: I get better at Fortnite? Or I want to go

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Speaker 2: see some Fortnite jokes. Then you'll go to the subreddit

665
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: for Fortnite and you'll see a whole bunch of people

666
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Speaker 2: who we have like little trans flags in there, and

667
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Speaker 2: they oh, like, here's my friend. He talks to me

668
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Speaker 2: about Fortnite. Well, what communities does he go to? Oh,

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Speaker 2: he goes to ask Transgender oh, I kind of feel

670
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Speaker 2: a little bit weird in my body. And none of

671
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Speaker 2: this is behind any like age barrier or anything. Right,

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Speaker 2: And let me also say that Reddit is half of

673
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: reddits traffic is like degenerate porn. But so you're on

674
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Speaker 2: Reddit and you go to ask transgender and you start

675
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: talking about how you're not comfortable in your body, and

676
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: then some like forty five year old trans weirdo groomer

677
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: is like, well, here's how you can go to your

678
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Speaker 2: doctor without talking to your parents and get HRT and

679
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: this group will help you find a place to live

680
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Speaker 2: if you want to move out, and like all this stuff.

681
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: So that's like one of the places it's happening. Obviously

682
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: there's other places, right, Like California has even like codified

683
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: this in the law with the Trevor Project. They're putting

684
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Speaker 2: this link to this trans grooming community on the IDs

685
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Speaker 2: of student ideas of middle schoolers, and so like, this

686
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: is the problem that like you've heard the overton window,

687
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: and everybody wants to patent themselves on the back and

688
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 2: say the overtin window is moving back to the right.

689
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Speaker 2: It isn't the overtin window. Even on things like transgenderism

690
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: is still moving to the left because there has been

691
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Speaker 2: very only Trump, only Trump. The ubiquitously, I think almost

692
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: every legislator except for like five of them, like Nancy Mace,

693
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: would come out brutally against transgenders because just saying no

694
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: doesn't move the overtin window to the right. There needs

695
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 2: to be an equal and opposite reaction, and so yes,

696
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: the country is increasingly becoming accepting of transgendering miners. It's

697
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 2: still the minority who want that, but it's a growing minority,

698
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: and you're going to lose on things like reparations. It's

699
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: gonna happen, on things like socialism. It's going to happen

700
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Speaker 2: because there is no mechanism, not a single dollar spent

701
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: by any organization to move the Overton window back to

702
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: the right. It's just not it's like like you look

703
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: at a looney idea like reparations. Increasingly it's moving to

704
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: the left because ubiquitously, every Democrat is like, oh, I

705
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: guess I should talk positively about reparations. That's what my

706
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: dogma says. Well, just like a talking head saying, well,

707
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, Americans disapprove of rep that's not enough. It's like, well,

708
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: what's the equal and opposite reaction, and like there is

709
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: none but nothing. Everybody is abdicating these fights. Nobody is

710
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: fighting for. Like people frame this as a political battle.

711
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: This is like no, a battle for the soul of America.

712
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: We're talking about like we're one generation away from not

713
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: having any of the values that we grew up with.

714
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Speaker 2: So uh, like everybody's got to clear the bench. And

715
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: but that like I just I just don't know, Like

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Speaker 2: identifying as a Republican running as a Republican in the

717
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: Republican Party. I guess it's a good start, but the

718
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: fourth turning tells us that we're in like the final

719
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: five years of where everything falls apart, So you know

720
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Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like, uh, like people need to

721
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: be like quitting their job and picket lining and making

722
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Speaker 2: counter protests and like literally flooding the streets in opposition.

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Speaker 3: Can I just break in for a second. Everybody can

724
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: go online to Royce White's ex account. Royce went last

725
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Speaker 3: week to a Republican Party gathering in the kind of

726
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: this metro area, and there was a group of leftist

727
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: protesters out in the street protesting this Republican gathering, and

728
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: Royce stood in the street and screamed at these people

729
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: and called it a counter protest. The police came and

730
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: they moved him back, and one of the leftists filmed,

731
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: you know, you know, with their with their camera, filmed

732
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Speaker 3: Royce and she posted this thing. This thing has gone viral,

733
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Speaker 3: and you know, I've been a lot of I spent

734
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: a lot of time with Royce. We were at an

735
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Speaker 3: event in twenty twenty four and we came around the

736
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Speaker 3: corner and there was like sixty protesters there, many of

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Speaker 3: them dressed up in Palestinian garb, and somebody said something

738
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: really you know, scatological towards Royce, and Royce waited right

739
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: into sixty people and said, okay, if that's how you feel,

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Speaker 3: come on. And of course he's two seventy five. He

741
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: didn't get any takers, but you know, he's actually in

742
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 3: the street confronting counter protesting, calling these people communists, call

743
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: them Satanists, and he's but he's an army you one, okay,

744
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: Well a lot of times I'm with them. So you

745
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: got you got two people, Well, we need us. And

746
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: we started a thing called Street Team here where we're

747
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: going out to all of the sports events and just

748
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: holding signs and confronting people. Well, it does take a

749
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: certain amount of courage. We've seated the streets to the left.

750
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: But you know, I want to go back. You know

751
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: what you're saying about this, uh, these quadrants of where

752
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: the voters are and where the Republican Party is. I

753
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 3: want to go over that one more time because your

754
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: theory of the case is that the new politics is

755
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 3: anti corruption and trust.

756
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Speaker 2: Rebuilding institutional trust. Yes, and I can see that all

757
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: all the all the time, because like you can tell

758
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 2: that Trump doesn't get it or doesn't want to get

759
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: this aspect of it. In that like under Biden, people

760
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: said by a majority that the FBI was Joe Biden's

761
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: personal gestapo, and the FBI lost its fifty plus favorability

762
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: rating for the first time in our polling. And it's

763
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: like people say, oh, well, Trump like trounced Kamala Harris

764
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: because she was a terrible candidates. No. I think he

765
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: had a mandate because his agenda was popular, but he

766
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: barely eked out a win on somebody who was basically

767
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: an empty vessel, and she convinced forty nine percent of

768
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: America to vote for her. Assuming our elections aren't completely corrupt,

769
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: but only thirty percent trust the federal government. So in

770
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: my opinion, this election was a referendum on the statist

771
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: overreach of Biden and the inflation crisis. And so what

772
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: Trump gets into office and does. First off, I'll say

773
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: he starts hacking apart in the federal government with Doge,

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00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 2: and that's when his approval rating was highest. He actually

775
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: hit a sixty percent approval rating with eighteen to thirty nine,

776
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: and he's way down with them now and that stuff's

777
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: not happening. So there's there's some evidence, right, And I'll

778
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: say people are happy with his administration right direction. Polling

779
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: is setting records, but only still in like forty two

780
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: percent of America says the country's headed in the right direction.

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00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: It's been higher than forty for thirty five consecutive weeks,

782
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: so that's unprecedented, but it's still not a majority of

783
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: Americans say the country's head in the right direction. But

784
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: he puts Cash Pattel at the head of the FBI

785
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: now and says, okay, it's fixed. And then he says, well,

786
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: case closed on Epstein and you believe, you know, are

787
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: lying your lying eyes about a thirty hot six and

788
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: it's like, no, people don't trust the FBI just because

789
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: you put cash Ptel there. They're screaming for arrests and

790
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: we haven't seen any. And so that's the problem with

791
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: institutional trust. Like we've seen organizations get corrected where the

792
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: activists are rooted out and all the fraud and waste

793
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: is a jack did And that happened at Twitter where

794
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: they fired eighty percent of the workforce. So you have

795
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: this matrix, and I think it defines the left pretty

796
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: well too. So in the bottom left again, these people

797
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: don't want any fraud, they don't want a corrupt system,

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00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: and they also don't trust the authority. The right leadership

799
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: is in the upper right, where it's like, yeah, the

800
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: fraud's fine, like Mitt Romney, I'm on the board of

801
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: the International Republican Institute, getting a million dollar pay check

802
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: for doing nothing fine, And then also, yeah, we're doing

803
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: a pretty good job. You go to Washington, DC, you

804
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: go to happy hour and watch the people pile out

805
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: of the Capitol Hill building and go to happy hour.

806
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: They're all pretty happy with themselves. It's not you're not

807
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: feeling an existential battle down in Washington, DC. So now

808
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: on the upper left. I think you have the core

809
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: of the Democrat voter, and those people don't want a

810
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: corrupt system, but they trust authority a lot. And so

811
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 2: that's like, well, if we got it wrong, it's just

812
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: because we have the wrong ex's there And look at

813
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: cash Ptell, he's so crass. How could Trump put somebody

814
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: like that and ahead of the FBI. We need to

815
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: get empowered because we need our experts to take over

816
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: this system. And then you get in the bottom right,

817
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: it's like people who don't trust the authority, but they

818
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: love grift and corruption. And that's like your Democrat leadership.

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00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: That's like AOC who wants to be in power because

820
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: she just wants to steal everything, right, Like that's what

821
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: it is. So they're kind of in opposition too, like

822
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: they and you can say, well, how do they trust authority?

823
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Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a lot of lies right now,

824
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: But to understand the fact that basically people want to

825
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: burn the system down by a majority, I think needs

826
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: to be the core of the Republican Party. And I

827
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: like Royce White. I think he says a lot of

828
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: the good things, but the problem is he's tethered to

829
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Speaker 2: basically an impotent machine that doesn't right.

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Speaker 3: No, no, wait, wait wait, he's not tethered to that machine.

831
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Speaker 3: We're building our own machine. And I'm listening to every

832
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Speaker 3: word your do you know? So I'm not talking very much.

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Speaker 3: You know, my audience knows I like to talk, obviously,

834
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Speaker 3: I'm a podcaster, right. I am so captivated by this

835
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Speaker 3: matrix that you're creating of what are the voters really

836
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: resonating with? And I'm trying. I want to say this

837
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Speaker 3: again because this is new information.

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Speaker 2: For me.

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Speaker 3: It's corruption and trust, and those two things go hand

840
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: in hand because if we're getting robbed, you're not going

841
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: to trust people that are robbing you. So you've just

842
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: broken out this matrix and you're saying that the young people,

843
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: the future of this country are in the lower left

844
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: quadrant of this matrix, and what they are absolutely committed

845
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Speaker 3: to is ending the corruption. And they don't trust the

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Speaker 3: institutions because the institutions have not served them. They, you know,

847
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: like me, like you, I'm older than you. I mean

848
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: the institutions. For me, hey, it was all good until

849
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: it wasn't. So to me, there's something to preserve. But

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Speaker 3: to Tanner, I never thought about it this way. He's

851
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 3: never seen any institutional integrity, so for him, for his generation,

852
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: it's burnt it down. And then you got the Boomers,

853
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: my cohort up in the upper right quadrant, the Republicans,

854
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 3: and they're saying, like me, hey, I trust the legal system.

855
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: Well I did. I don't. Now that's because I read.

856
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: But I mean, I grew up. You know, my mother

857
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: was an attorney. You know, I grew up with a

858
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 3: lot of respect. I have a lot of cases myself

859
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 3: because I'm in business and I like to believe that

860
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: there's something with integrity. Although I just got in an

861
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: argument with my mother this week where I where she

862
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: told me and I said, well, yeah, rule of loss corrupt.

863
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: So apparently I'm sliding down on the lower left corner myself.

864
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 3: But most of the boomers are up there in the

865
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 3: upper right corner where they believe in the institutions and

866
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: them they built them, and they tolerate the corruption because

867
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: it's kind of a it's kind of like inventory slippage.

868
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: It's like it's kind of like losing some inventory. Walmart

869
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: loses some inventory, but it's still Walmart making a ton

870
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: of money. We're all good, do I understand that correctly.

871
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: That upper right now, yeah, and they want their social

872
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: safety nets to subsist, and everybody says, oh, look at

873
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: the That's the thing that pisses me off so much

874
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: is that they say, oh, look at our buckling social

875
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: safety nets. We're not going to have enough people to

876
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: pay for my social security. Those eighteen to twenty nine

877
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: year olds need to breed more. Those people just need

878
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: to have kids and wing it well, it's like they

879
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: can't afford a house. You gave their job to Indians like, no,

880
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: they can't. And everybody looks at this collapsing demographic wave

881
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: and says, oh, you got a problem. Well, nobody looks

882
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: at that and says, oh, also, twenty five percent of

883
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: those people are gay, and thirty five percent of them

884
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: have mental conditions.

885
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 3: And the women don't want to have make family.

886
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: Women don't want to have kids exactly.

887
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 3: It's just obvious. Right. And then in that upper left

888
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: hand quadrant, let's talk about that one. I want to

889
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: get this under my belt. This upper left hand. Talk

890
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 3: about the upper left.

891
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: So I think those are people that fundamentally like trust authority,

892
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: and they think that experts can run the system. But

893
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: they want their experts in basically the Democrat.

894
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: This is the Democrat voter, the cohort, the backbone that

895
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: votes Democrat. A lot of college educated people they respect,

896
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: they respect authority because they have the authority, they have

897
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: the degrees. They just want their experts running the machine.

898
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: And how do they.

899
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: Feel about the corruption. They don't see it. They say, well,

900
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: look at Trump, he's so cross, he must be a rapist.

901
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: Oh, they blame it on the other side. They're caught

902
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: up in the dynamic of left and right. So the

903
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: people don't the people down the lower left, they're not

904
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 3: caught up in that dynamic and burn it down.

905
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: Now they've they've taken the pill, they've taken the red pill.

906
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: And up in the upper left that's maybe their parents.

907
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: If you talk about legacy voters, those people are educated.

908
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 3: They want their experts in place.

909
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: A lot of like younger ones. And there's a lot

910
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: of Christians in there too. And it's people that have

911
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: been taught that they want sanitized abortion rights, even though

912
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: it means murdering babies, you know what I mean. Like

913
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: it's like I did a lot of religion polling and

914
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: what is kind of weird is that basically like Christians

915
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: in America are only plus two pro life, and that's

916
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: that's kind of like weird, considering that many would say

917
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: objectively abortion, especially like later term abortion is like obviously

918
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: obviously against biblical principles, right, And yet overwhelmingly Democrat Christians

919
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: support a candidate who was for unfettered abortion, and so

920
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: they've done a lot of mental gymnastics in order to

921
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: get there. But essentially that aspect of Christianity doesn't apply

922
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 2: to them, whereas for Republican Christians it does, and whereas

923
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: for Evangelical Christians it does way more than Protestant Christians.

924
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: But if you look at like if you just say, okay, well,

925
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: I asked a question like who who has the best

926
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: moral character? I think was the one I used Kamala

927
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: Harris or Donald Trump? And then you look at religion

928
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: sub sections the religion, who's most confident in their worldview,

929
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: who understands their value set clearest? Is Atheists not Christians.

930
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: They overwhelmingly said, oh, yeah, Kamala Harris, She's the one

931
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: who has the better moral character. And so obviously there's

932
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: an information war going on and people are consuming different

933
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: fact sets, like that's fundamentally the core issue. But you

934
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: can't just blame it on all of the live from

935
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 2: the mainstream media. They want to consume those core fact

936
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: sets too. They want to be they want to belong

937
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: to something that has moral authority, and that's dangerous because

938
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: when they get power, they're gonna shove it down everybody's throat.

939
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: It's like the Democrats wanted to put the unvaccinated in

940
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: prison camps and in prison anybody who questioned the efficacy

941
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: of the vaccine. These are people who are supposed to

942
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: be liberal and they wanted to like almost sixty percent

943
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 2: of them wanted to imprison people who question the vaccines,

944
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: and the Biden strong approvers it was like massive number.

945
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was. And so it's like

946
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 2: again going back to this right versus left, the framing

947
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 2: of like a Republican versus Democrat battle, it doesn't capture

948
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: any of the stuff, the fact that the Democrats are

949
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: fundamentally insane. The eighteen to twenty nine year olds have

950
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 2: completely lost hope in the system and want something different.

951
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: If they can't get Donald Trump, they're gonna pick AOC

952
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: or Bernie Sanders. That's just what's gonna happen. And when

953
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: that person gets in charge of the country, Like maybe

954
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: Mamdani will show us what happens in New York first.

955
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't know now, I mean, like, there's good news.

956
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: I think jd. Vance is gonna win in twenty eight

957
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: probably if nothing changes. But I think the Democrats are

958
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: probably going to pick up the House in the Senate

959
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: in the mid terms at this rate. Probably, I mean

960
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: history tells us they should. And like, what does the

961
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: Democrat Party do? Everybody I talk to says, well, they're

962
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 2: going to use the nuclear option. Well, it's like, why

963
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: is the Republican Party not doing anything? They have passed nothing,

964
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, the sixty vote filibuster limit. But yeah,

965
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: America thinks we're on the brink of a civil war.

966
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: Forty three percent of America thinks the civil war revolutions

967
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: coming in the next few years. So it's like, and

968
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: I've given a very clear like the government shut down

969
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: right now, we can't get a budget unless you pass

970
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, unless you pass a budget reconciliation, right which

971
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: isn't going to happen because the Democrats don't support it.

972
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 2: Use the nuclear option and tomorrow pass paper ballots. Use

973
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: the nuclear option. And the next week, let's get bipartisan

974
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: election audits. Next week, let's get voter id like the

975
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 2: after that, like past something popular that everybody supports arrest

976
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: people they want arrests, like seventy percent of America says,

977
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 2: it's likely that most legislators are profiting from the system

978
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: and ill gotten ways, like they think it's all corrupt

979
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: man like, and everybody that you talk to, every single

980
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: person involved in politics is invested in the system maintaining

981
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: a status quo.

982
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: What it sounds to me like is that upper left

983
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: and that upper right quadrant, those voters are maintaining the

984
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: fit of red blue fight and the ones in the

985
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: bottom of the quadrant, those are truly the dark forces

986
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: in the society that are seeking neither to overturn it

987
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 3: or to profit from it.

988
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

989
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: And so this is super informative to me, just that

990
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: the dynamic that the the matrix of decision making has

991
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: shifted the Overton window. And look at Minnesota. I'm going

992
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: to ask you to help me look at it as

993
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: we stand involved the fraud that's going on in Minnesota

994
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: under the Democrat administration, which that's a bullh story. Sorry, Tanner.

995
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: We try not to swear because we're up on YouTube. Also,

996
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, the Republicans are blaming the Democrats for fraud.

997
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 3: I mean to me, just to me, because I'm a

998
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: business person. Okay, if one hundred million dollars disappear, that

999
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: could be a criminal. When you start talking about billions,

1000
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: that would be what I would call broad bipartisan support

1001
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 3: for that system. And you know, we got leading Republican

1002
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: candidates in Minnesota pointing their fingers at the Democrats. You

1003
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 3: did this. You know, you guys are the sheep dogs.

1004
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 3: You're supposed to protect the citizens. So they don't understand

1005
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: that every time they point their finger, there's three fingers

1006
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: pointing back at themselves, because there's that lower left quadrant

1007
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: that sees the whole system as being corrupt, both sides

1008
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 3: of it. Yeah, and we're not moving the needle here

1009
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: in Minnesota yet to address. All we're doing is using

1010
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: it like a cudgel. We're not really politically addressing where

1011
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: did the money go? See, this is another thing that

1012
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: really matters. You steal a little bit, they throw you

1013
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 3: in jail. You steal a lot, they make you king.

1014
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: We're talking about billions of dollars of Minnesota taxpayer money disappeared?

1015
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: Where'd that money go? Who created that funnel? I want

1016
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: every dollar followed? And you know why they're not going

1017
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 3: to follow it is they don't want the answer. They

1018
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: don't want the the powers that be don't want the

1019
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: answer of where billions have disappeared.

1020
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: To Yeah, the h like arresting the fraudsters is the

1021
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: easy thing, you know what I mean? Like the right

1022
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: controls the FBI now and like what have we seen?

1023
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: Like what have we seen? I hear that there have

1024
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: been grand juries and paneled, they indicted Komi. He's not

1025
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: a jail yet, like you know, like the and the part.

1026
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: Everybody has to acknowledge that it's it's it's way worse

1027
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: than you know. And I'll give you a quick story.

1028
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: So when I was thirty five, my wife said, you know,

1029
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: you should get checked out. I think you have sleep apnea.

1030
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: Your dad has a seapap maybe you have apnea too.

1031
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: And so I went to my doctor. He says, well,

1032
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: you need to get a sleep study. I'm like fine,

1033
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: So I get hooked up and I go to the

1034
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: sleep study and they're like, you have apnia. You're gonna

1035
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: die and I'm like, no, let's not be historyonic here.

1036
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm probably not gonna die. I'm a healthy, thirty five

1037
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: year old man. This is so dangerous. You stop breathing

1038
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: fifty times an hour, You're going to die. Okay, well,

1039
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: what do you like. You got to get an seapap

1040
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: and you got to have that machine breathe for you

1041
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life. And I'm like, well,

1042
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't like that solution. So I went to an

1043
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,959
Speaker 2: ear noose throat doctor, a specialist, one of the best

1044
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: doctors in Manhattan. I had good health care at the time.

1045
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, you have to use a sheet papper.

1046
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna die. They're like, well, okay, what are my options?

1047
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: And he says, well, we can surgically disconnect your jaw

1048
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: here and here. It's gonna cost you fifty thousand, and

1049
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: it's got like a forty percent success rate and you're

1050
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: gonna have to, you know, eat through a straw for

1051
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: six months. And I'm like, well, I don't like that

1052
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: option either. He's like, well, there's an experimental treatment. We

1053
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 2: can shove a ten ten gage needle through your tongue

1054
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: and pin it with like this device and I'm like, oh,

1055
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: I don't like that option either, and he's like, oh, well,

1056
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: we can insert carbon fiber or slivers in your throat.

1057
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, ten thousand dollars, it's got like

1058
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: a twenty percent success rate. And I'm like, this is

1059
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: the best that science has to offer. So I went

1060
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: home and I did some research, and it took some tinkering.

1061
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: I tried to figure I got. I got a pul

1062
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Speaker 2: sox simeter, and you know, reading about uncontacted tribes in

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Speaker 2: the Amazon and how people anthropologically have slept in the past,

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Speaker 2: it's like, well, they just sleep on the dirt. So

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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I'm just going to sleep on

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Speaker 2: my carpet. And my apnea went away, and so I'm like,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, maybe it's just positional. So I decided

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Speaker 2: to sleep on my side, and now I don't have

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Speaker 2: sleep apnea. I taught myself to sleep on my side.

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Speaker 2: I got a firmer mattress, so I asked roc. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of weird because it would have been millions

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Speaker 2: over my lifetime to have a seapap for my entire life.

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Speaker 2: It's probably some danger with like mold and you know

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Speaker 2: like it's uh. And I said, okay, GROC, if half

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Speaker 2: of the people that are taxpayer funded that currently are

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Speaker 2: diagnosed with sleep apnea and have a seapath, if just

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Speaker 2: half of those people could fix it with like health

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Speaker 2: positional changes, what would be the ten year savings to taxpayers?

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Speaker 2: And GROX said eight hundred and fifty billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: Wow, so yes, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like, we're not like the Republicans

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Speaker 2: freaked out when they went for the five billion dollar

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Speaker 2: child pain medication market. So it's like, it's all if

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Speaker 2: we had just capped Social Security, or if we just

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Speaker 2: capt Medicaid sorry Medicare and Medicaid as a percent of

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Speaker 2: GDP in nineteen seventy, we would only have eleven trillion

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Speaker 2: dollars in debt right now. And so it's all I used,

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Speaker 2: since you swore i'll use the phrase. It's societal and shitification.

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Speaker 2: Every cent has been wrung out of this thing by

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Speaker 2: a system that has not yet even had an opening

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Speaker 2: shot fired at it. The opening shot was Trump, and

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Speaker 2: look at how it freaked out. It literally tried to

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Speaker 2: throw him in jail and kill him.

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Speaker 3: Like it's well, this is so interesting because I started

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Speaker 3: out politically trying to talk about the politics of human

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Speaker 3: well being, that what can bring people together on a bipartisan,

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Speaker 3: nonpartisan basis is what extends our longevity and increases our prosperity.

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Speaker 3: Let's not talk about this in a left right way.

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01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: Let just talk about our longevity is in decline for

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Speaker 3: the first time in my lifetime. You know, we're spending

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Speaker 3: more money on healthcare than any per capita in any

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Speaker 3: country in the world by far, It's not even close.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we're at a point now on YouTube

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Speaker 3: where I think we can talk about this, but I'm

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01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: not sure they won't strike this thing down because what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying is, look at you. You self governed. You

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Speaker 3: went to your doctor, which was extraordinarily prudent and intelligent.

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Speaker 3: You trust, you don't disregard science. You went to see

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Speaker 3: a technician, a scientific technician. You said, what are the

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01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: different I've been diagnosed with something, What are my potential treatments?

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Speaker 3: And you went through each one of them, and you said,

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Speaker 3: I don't like any of them. Now right there. Once

1113
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Speaker 3: you've done that, you're down the Laura left quadrant right away,

1114
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Speaker 3: because you've said I am going to research this myself

1115
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Speaker 3: now interesting, if you look at outcomes from people that

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Speaker 3: have severe disease, the ones that are the least trustee

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Speaker 3: have the best outcomes. I don't know why that is.

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Speaker 3: That's correlation, not causation, but having been there myself, to

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Speaker 3: tell you my own story, I was diagnosed, I was

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Speaker 3: recommended to have a major surgery, chemotherapy, sixty rounds of radiation.

1121
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Speaker 3: And I looked at the doctor and I said great.

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01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 3: So I went to another doctor right in my same district.

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Speaker 3: He gave me the same prescription. I said, wait a second,

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Speaker 3: the same I started thinking, maybe something legal is going

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Speaker 3: on here. So I traveled out of state to a

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Speaker 3: completely different legislative and legal domain and I got a

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01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 3: completely different read And instead of having major surgery and

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Speaker 3: instead of having chemotherapy, I had a very mild treatment.

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Speaker 3: And I've been asymptomatic for thirty thirty six years. And

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Speaker 3: you know, so, you know, I really resonate with what

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01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: you're saying, because you did your own research. Now, had

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01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 3: your app it continued and you had felt threatened, you

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01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 3: would have gone back to the doctor because you went

1134
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Speaker 3: in the first place. So it's not like you're opposed

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Speaker 3: to doctrine.

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Speaker 2: You just see now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, great, well, you look very healthy and balanced.

1138
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Speaker 3: But but you know, my point is you didn't. You

1139
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 3: weren't distrusting at the get go, and now you've had

1140
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Speaker 3: this feedback loop where you did your own research and

1141
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Speaker 3: you healed yourself, and you haven't said anything about your

1142
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Speaker 3: faith and we just talked a little bit about religion.

1143
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're Catholic, although if you asked

1144
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 3: me to bet, i'd say you're a Catholic.

1145
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but my covering methodist.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, Well, my point is there's something going on

1147
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: in life that the prevailing system does not acknowledge because

1148
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: it's profit seeking. There's something else going on. There's something

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Speaker 3: else including did you say including the church?

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Speaker 2: Including the church?

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Speaker 3: I agree with you one hundred percent, but there's something

1152
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 3: else going on. There's something else out there. And you've

1153
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: had an experience of healing yourself, and you know that's

1154
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 3: a life changing experience. Now you're going to say, well,

1155
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Speaker 3: wait a second, how many other maladies can be addressed

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Speaker 3: in some other way that doesn't cost the system eight

1157
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Speaker 3: hundred billion dollars?

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Speaker 2: Right? Well, there's many, I would assume because I have

1159
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Speaker 2: another shorter anecdote, I have myopia. I got all the

1160
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Speaker 2: way up to four diopters by my parents sending me

1161
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Speaker 2: to glasses and get glasses and get glasses. And you know,

1162
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: you have to have a prescription in the United States

1163
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Speaker 2: to buy glasses from Iopia, not for reading, just from

1164
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: Iopia for whatever reason, you don't in England. And so

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01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: you know, long story short, I've improved my eyesight from

1166
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Speaker 2: about four didaptors to down to one and three quarters.

1167
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm wearing one in a quarter right now. And if

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Speaker 2: you go to talk to the AIS, the language models

1169
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 2: who train on information that's on the Internet, and you say,

1170
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: can you improve your eyesight naturally chat GPT is going

1171
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Speaker 2: to tell you no, it's impossible, it's hereditary. You have

1172
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Speaker 2: to go get an optomictis look at you like that's

1173
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: just the answer. It's like, no, you're wrong. You can

1174
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: argue with it and it will not agree with you

1175
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: because the glasses market is too big in the United

1176
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Speaker 2: States so everything. And people know this now, especially after COVID,

1177
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: because we ask people how important is it to you know,

1178
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 2: get your own information when seeking stuff about your health?

1179
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Speaker 2: Fifty eight percent? And I forget with the opposite answer

1180
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 2: is like thirty couple and fifty six percent of voters

1181
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 2: now think that the COVID vaccine it likely caused a

1182
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Speaker 2: significant number of unexplained deaths, and people trusted the health system,

1183
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 2: people trusted Anthony Fauci, people took the vaccine, and now

1184
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: a majority of them say, yeah, it's killing people. And

1185
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Speaker 2: you know, we haven't even got into the horrible stories

1186
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,879
Speaker 2: about the hospital treatment protocols. Many people think that patients

1187
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: were murdered, like literally just killed for money, and where's

1188
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: the accountability? And people want accountability. That's the thing is,

1189
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Speaker 2: it's this old matrix does not work anymore. It's not

1190
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 2: about libertarianism, Like libertarians can go screw off, you've lost

1191
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: your ideal system. Is might as well just be like,

1192
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's nice to want that. Maybe that's an

1193
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 2: ending point, but I think the right is authoritarianists too,

1194
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Speaker 2: because we he asked a question recently about Jimmy Kimmel

1195
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: and did you know there was some quote we had

1196
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: about do you agree or disagree that fashion fascism isn't coming,

1197
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 2: it's already here, And the quote won by like almost

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Speaker 2: twenty points. People are like, yeah, it was fascist, Like

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Speaker 2: firing Jimmy Kimmel. But that's in polling where Trump had

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Speaker 2: a positive approval rating, and many of the people who

1201
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 2: said it was fascists were Republicans, so they're like, great,

1202
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: shut this guy up. And I mean, I'll tell you

1203
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Speaker 2: another one that's changing rapidly is that if you think, like,

1204
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: what's a question that you could pick that shows you

1205
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: the fundamental core of somebody's like like justice system, like

1206
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: the decisions they make around how they've the capital punishment,

1207
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: like what do you should criminals get executed? And we

1208
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: pulled that in twenty nineteen and won by thirteen points

1209
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 2: capital punishment forty nine to thirty six. Well, we pulled

1210
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: the week after Arena Zarotska got the video came out

1211
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 2: of her getting murdered, and the death penalty wins by

1212
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: forty points. It's plus seventy among Republicans, it's plus twenty

1213
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 2: among Democrats, and so three to one Americans want the

1214
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: death penalty now and they overwhelmingly support it. Was like,

1215
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: you know, by ten points, that's a pretty big majority.

1216
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 2: Trump just rolling in the National Guard through cities. Let

1217
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 2: just do it. And so they want arrests, they want

1218
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: all they want sixty seven percent support of the swampying drains,

1219
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: and it's just not happening. It's not happening fast enough,

1220
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Speaker 2: the windows closing, and we can blame it on Pam

1221
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 2: Bondi or whatever. Like nobody believed her about the Epstein case.

1222
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: Only sixteen percent said the case is closed. They think

1223
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Speaker 2: that there are powerful and wealthy predators that were abusing

1224
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: young women and they were just told to know nothing

1225
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Speaker 2: to see here after a decade and a.

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Speaker 3: Half, Can I just delve into this with you a

1227
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Speaker 3: little bit, because this is another very interesting area, And

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Speaker 3: I want to say back what I think I'm hearing

1229
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 3: because I'm I'm developing some internal dissonance because, if I

1230
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Speaker 3: understood you correctly, at an earlier part of this podcast

1231
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Speaker 3: to this broadcast, you had said that Biden lost or

1232
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 3: the Democrats lost because of two primary dimensions. Number one

1233
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: state overreach and the other one was economic inflation. That

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01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 3: I understand you correctly. So if that's true that state

1235
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 3: overreach was a critical issue in that election, yep. Are

1236
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: we in a situation now where if the Republican administration

1237
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 3: does state overreach it's okay, or a state overreach going

1238
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,520
Speaker 3: to be continued to be a problem in upcoming elections

1239
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 3: because clearly Trump is testing the limits of what he

1240
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Speaker 3: can do for executive authority.

1241
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Speaker 2: Well, I guess they're just going to have to roll

1242
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 2: the dice. Accountability is what the state over reach needs

1243
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: to be in my opinion right now, bringing criminal to justice,

1244
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 2: uncovering the depth of corruption in our government. And that's

1245
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: not what was happening in the Biden administration. They were

1246
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: shutting down small businesses and forcing people to take an

1247
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: experimental medicine. They were weaponizing the Department of Justice to

1248
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: raid the home of a former president on a paper

1249
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: thin predicate that everybody saw. You know, when Donald Trump

1250
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: got indicted, his pull number shot up. A lot of

1251
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: black people flocked to him, and he's still got a

1252
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: pretty high black approval rating historically speaking, I think it's

1253
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 2: in the thirties right now. So it's like people saw that,

1254
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: and you know, looking at the Department of Justice stuff,

1255
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 2: we had numbers in the sixties of people who said

1256
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: that this has Banana Republic. And so a lot of

1257
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: Democrats were looking at this and saying, oh, I don't

1258
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 2: like the look of this, you know what I mean.

1259
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't really believe the story. Now the

1260
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 2: core left does, who will reflexively say that Trump stole

1261
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: democracy and that he's a rapist? And where where is

1262
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: that a crucible that's forming these beliefs Blue Sky and

1263
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 2: Reddit and MSNBC, although MSNBC is like functionally dead now

1264
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: it's websites like ranked nine hundredth in the US, and

1265
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: I guess CNN is dying too. It's so there is

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Speaker 2: good news, like the info war in many ways is

1267
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Speaker 2: being won, but it's like it's already poisoned the eighteen

1268
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Speaker 2: to twenty nine in a way that we have not

1269
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: even begun to fathom. And I think the window is

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Speaker 2: closing again because I think the Democrats are probably going

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Speaker 2: to get into power in some way, and Trump's legislative agenda,

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Speaker 2: what little there is, is going to be dead in

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: November twenty six unless something big happens. Now, something like

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: big stuff could happen. I'm just calling for it. They

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01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: could start governing. Well, that would be great if they

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01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 2: passed laws like here's here's how you get to Democrats,

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01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: because most Democrats, if you attach the word Trump to it,

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01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 2: they're just not gonna like it. They just don't want it.

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01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: They've like they've tuned out. They think he's hitler. But

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, Democrats actually do share some fundamental

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Speaker 2: values with the rest of us. They believe in fairness.

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Speaker 2: So if you like anything about fear crime fairness, they'll

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Speaker 2: they'll be for it. Like they don't like election cheating.

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01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: They just think Elon Musk stole the election. But if

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Speaker 2: you ask them how important it is to prevent cheating,

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Speaker 2: ninety percent of them say it's important. They don't want

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Speaker 2: a two tier system of justice, just like Republicans. They

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 2: don't want corruption. They just don't think their side's corrupt.

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Speaker 2: So you have to rub their nose in it. You

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01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 2: just have to force it down their throats. This is

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01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 2: how corrupt your system is, and we are not seeing

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01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 2: that when you just like you fire off one indictment

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: at COMI and all of a sudden, Reddit has enough

1294
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: time to shape him into a martyr. And it's like, well,

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: it's not enough. It's not going to be enough. We

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01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: all know how bad it is.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about corruption. I mean, I think you and

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01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 3: I could talk about this for hours, but I think

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01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 3: we're seeing it in a very similar way. It's so

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01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 3: baked into the culture. We can't even recognize it, you know. Yeah,

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01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 3: we're talking about institutional.

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01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 2: There's aspects of the Trump administration that are corrupt as well.

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01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: He's surrounded by grifters. The information I think that he

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01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 2: gets is limited. I think there are people profiting off

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01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 2: of his administration as well, and so like that can't happen. Oh,

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01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 2: we going all to.

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Speaker 3: Don't on my podcast, we go all the way. I mean,

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm a pretty staunch critic of the military industrial complex,

1309
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 3: the medical industrial complex, the educational entertainment complex. They're all,

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01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 3: they're all. These are the entrenched interest. This is what

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01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 3: you call the status quo. So what we're trying to

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01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 3: do here in Minnesota is just find enough people that

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 3: are pissed off enough. And what I'm getting out of

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 3: this is they're in that lower left hand quadrant. That's

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01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 3: where those people are.

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01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 2: That's what my polling says. Now, how activated are those people?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Many of them are probably happy with

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01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: their status quo, Like I don't know, like people are

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01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 2: not on the streets right now, but they want arrests.

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: Like we asked, uh, if intelligence official, if intelligence official

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 2: manipulated information in order to get Trump in the Russian

1322
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: coclusion hoax, I forget the exact worrying with something like that,

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01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 2: should they be arrested? Yeah, fifty seven percent said yes.

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 2: I think only in the twenties said no, and half

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01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: Democrats are like, yeah, if they do, sure, they should

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01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: go to jail if they manipulated intelligence. And so it's like,

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01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 2: that's a very strong majority, stronger majority than any political question,

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01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: and a bigger majority than most politicians have won by

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01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 2: in every single district across the country. And so that's

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Speaker 2: what Americans like, that's these are fundamental things.

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Speaker 3: Say that one more time. Is this an issue of fairness?

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying? What is the cultural value

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Speaker 3: we're talking about here?

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Speaker 2: One of the highest numbers. Everybody's like, oh, well, everybody

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,799
Speaker 2: believes this or everybodybody believes that. No, it never happens.

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01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: It's never everybody except for like, very very very few questions,

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01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: I ever get a number above ninety and you know,

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01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,839
Speaker 2: for instances right now, the number one issue in America

1339
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: is that people are concerned about political violence more than

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01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: inflation ninety percent. People are concerned about cheating and elections

1341
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: ninety percent. Ninety five percent think it's important that politicians

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01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 2: are held to the same standard of justice as other citizens.

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01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 2: This is this is.

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Speaker 3: This is without reference to party. This is American.

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01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: This is one hundred percent of america bipartisan agreement that

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01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: there should not be a two tiered system of justice.

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Speaker 3: That is, let's just stick with these three again. I

1348
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 3: want to say this again, more popular than oxygen. I

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01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 3: want to say these three again that are polling over

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01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 3: ninety percent. So everybody in this audience here is at

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01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 3: number one over what are the over nineties mark that's

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01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 3: just off.

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Speaker 2: The top of my head. Preventing cheating and elections? What

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01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: else rising prices I don't even think got.

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01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: To political violence?

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01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: Is political violence? And then the number one is two

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01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: tiered system of justice. That's the highest number I can remember.

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Speaker 2: There might the others from.

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Speaker 3: And and that's that's broadly bipartisan. So then the battle

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01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: becomes an information wares about what is the application of

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01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 3: two tiers of justice, because from my perspective, clearly it's

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Speaker 3: functioning on a broad bipartisan information war.

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Speaker 2: Is not the right way to frame it, though, because

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Speaker 2: that gives you a different solution set. If you say,

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Speaker 2: well it's because of the information war, well, MSNBC, like

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Speaker 2: I said, is dead. It is dead. People don't watch

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01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: it anymore. It only gets one hundred and fifty thousand

1368
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: people in the primetime demo. But people would say, well,

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01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: we've won the information war. We have Twitter and Blue

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Speaker 2: Sky's assessed pit and and maybe your solution is to well,

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Speaker 2: we can still go after Reddit like maybe, but no,

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Speaker 2: that's not really it. The problem is is that two

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01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: competing worldviews have developed. That's the problem, and that makes

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Speaker 2: it a much much bigger issue.

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Speaker 3: Well that those are the those are paradigm issues, cultural

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01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 3: shift issues. And if I was going to and just

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Speaker 3: I want to just lay this on you, because we

1378
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 3: haven't talked about it, we're coming to the end. So

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Speaker 3: you know, my read of that is there's a traditional

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Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of years of development of human history

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Speaker 3: that involves, for example, structures of faith, you know, fundamentals,

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01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 3: sanctity of life, that there's a god, you know that

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01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 3: there is you know, family, traditional values that ran smacking

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Speaker 3: dab into the progressive era starting in about nineteen hundred,

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Speaker 3: which has led us to a new religion which is

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01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 3: not fenced as a religion, but it's secular humanism, and

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01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 3: it kind of has crept its way into our governance

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01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 3: under the guise of separation of church and state. But

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01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 3: I see secular humanism or this kind of worldview as

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01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 3: being religious all the hallmarks of a religion. It just

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01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 3: doesn't have God or church. The church becomes the state.

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01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 3: So we've got a religious self governance kind of the

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01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 3: impetus of the country republicanism where people self governed and

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01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 3: their citizen sovereigns and we protect minority rights and we're

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01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 3: kind of doing our own thing to the extent that

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01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 3: we can. And then we've run into this new thing

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Speaker 3: of a collectivist kind of status approach to organize a

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Speaker 3: human affairs. Is that what you're saying or is it

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Speaker 3: something else that you're seeing these two world views?

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Speaker 2: I guess, And it's so messy, but it's like what

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01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: ideals do we want? And I think that it's a

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01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: relatively new development, probably that we have the luxury to

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01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: make this kind of decision. When our founding fathers put

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01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 2: America together, I would assume that ninety five percent of

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01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: people were just agrarian, you know, like they I'm sure

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01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 2: there were people in towns and they had businesses and

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01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: they you know, you had your cobblers and stuff like that,

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01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: but like most people had farms and they didn't really

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 2: give a crap about what kind of governance system that

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01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 2: they operated under as long as they weren't taxed too

1411
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: much and left alone, right, they're just raise your kids

1412
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: armed and died. And so now it's like, well, we

1413
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 2: have a system that has been built recently and it

1414
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 2: was good, and we know the parts about it that

1415
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 2: were good, and so we should aggressively try to fix that.

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01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: And so like that's most of what we talked about

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01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: today is like are we gonna who's doing it? Like

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01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: what do we do to get there? How do we

1419
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 2: restore the system that we liked? But then there's this

1420
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: other question about, well, like what's the right set of

1421
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: ideals long term, because whether the system's fixed or not,

1422
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: the sun's going to rise tomorrow and it's probably going

1423
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: to be worse than we think in some ways and

1424
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: not as bad as we think in others. We're probably

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01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: going to have war. Most Fourth turnings do, and you

1426
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 2: can feel the world just craving war right now, and

1427
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: that's usually what happens when we get so much debt.

1428
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: So some people will fight and die and other people

1429
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 2: won't and we'll live perfectly normal lives that have jobs,

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01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: and the country will exist still, and we'll have something

1431
01:22:55,240 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 2: that's not free market capitalism, probably not also pure socialism.

1432
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 2: But there will be you know, a lot of friction, right.

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01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: There will probably be political people thrown in jail because

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01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: Democrats don't like them. They will like, I don't know,

1435
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: but it's like, what's the right set of values to

1436
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: put in our crosshairs as something to work towards, And

1437
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: like nobody's talking about that, but it's likely you.

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Speaker 3: But Mark, you did because you brought up something we

1439
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 3: really didn't delve into, which is the the belief of

1440
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 3: the younger cohort of capping wealth, of cling back wealth

1441
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: of of making because they just don't have access to

1442
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 3: the kind of economic freedom.

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01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: And you know, part of that, bottom Smith is they

1444
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: have no idea who Adam Smith is.

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01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 3: And part of that is because of the global integration

1446
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 3: of business. I mean, I'm going to tell you I

1447
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 3: haven't been a self government is a businessman. I've been

1448
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 3: self employed since I'm nineteen. Yeah, you know, if you're

1449
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 3: in the tech space, okay, great, but if you're in

1450
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 3: a traditional what you'd call kind of a main street business.

1451
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 3: It's really tough to make money. Now you're facing forces

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01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 3: that are soification.

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01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 2: It's the intittification. I can see this in a chart.

1454
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: So one of the measures that I alluded to before

1455
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: I didn't talk about. Everybody looks at the Genny coefficient.

1456
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: I like to look at I took. You can do

1457
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 2: this on FRED. You can go to the FRED site

1458
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 2: and put this together per cap and a total public

1459
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: debt divided by median real income, so that like the

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01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: middle person in America, what does that person earn, and

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01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 2: so that ratio shows like kind of their ability to

1462
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: pay off their portion of government debt. And if you

1463
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 2: look at the chart, it's been really stable at about

1464
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 2: point five, which means that the middle Americans income is

1465
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: twice as high as their share of the debt they

1466
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: have to pay off until about two thousand and eight,

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01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: and then the charge is skyrockets up and it's up

1468
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 2: to two point five now, which means that Americans are

1469
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: five times less capable of paying off their the government debt.

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Speaker 2: So this isn't necessarily a debt signal. It's also a

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Speaker 2: stagnating median real income signal. And it's like a hockey stick.

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01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: It just turned left and kept going up. And we

1473
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 2: all know why. It's the financial crisis happened. We socialized losses.

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01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 2: We showered Bernaki dollars on all of these major corporations,

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01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: and then they went and off short everything. And that's

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01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: and then we passed these by Parson, you know, crisis

1477
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: resolution acts that shove billions of dollars down private equity

1478
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 2: companies throats, and they've literally they've they found a whole

1479
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: new treasure chest to raid and it's screwed over the

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Speaker 2: middle class and now we can't buy houses. And unfortunately,

1481
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 2: the only way to fix it is by massively changing

1482
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 2: our economic order. A lot of these corporations have to

1483
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 2: die creative destruction. There needs to be wealth transfers, like,

1484
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 2: for instance, one of the best wealth transfers that we

1485
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: could do is to crash the housing market, brutally crash

1486
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 2: the housing market, and that will destroy the wealth of

1487
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 2: people who are over sixty five who have multiple houses,

1488
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,480
Speaker 2: but it will make it hopefully, if we keep Blackstone

1489
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 2: out of the market, it will make it so the

1490
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: zoomers can actually buy one. And how do you do that?

1491
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 2: You deport everybody, like literally everyone, and I hope we do.

1492
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 2: We lost two million legal immigrants, and these things have consequences,

1493
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 2: like it's wild. Homan came out and said that one

1494
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 2: point six million illegal immigrants have self deported, and two

1495
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: days later CNN reported that the number one beer in

1496
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: America was no longer Modello. I kid you not. And

1497
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 2: so these things, like there are real economic consequences, and

1498
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: this stuff has to happen because it's so corrupt. I

1499
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:39,480
Speaker 2: used to work at Walmart. Seventy percent of Walmart's technology

1500
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: is Indian foreign nationals. They hire legal aliens as drivers

1501
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: and in the stores, and every product they sell is

1502
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 2: from China, like pretty much literally every like seventy percent

1503
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 2: of our entire e commerce industry. Like if you look

1504
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 2: at Amazon and Walmart is like sixty or seventy percent

1505
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 2: Chinese skews. Why did we do that? And why are

1506
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 2: we not like okay tariffs no no, no no, like

1507
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 2: rip Amazon apart, Root and Stem with the FTC, like,

1508
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: go after these people, sue the hell out of them.

1509
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: It has to happen rapidly because again, when the zoomers

1510
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 2: are just going to put communists in charge, you know, it's.

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01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 3: So interesting to talk I could see we could just

1512
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: sit back and talk about e commerce. And I'm just

1513
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 3: going to tell you, because I always forget this. We

1514
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 3: run an e commerce tire company here to fund Free

1515
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: People Radio. It's called tireget dot com. You're welcome to

1516
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 3: be an affiliate. We sell tires and we got the

1517
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 3: best deal on tires. We put them on people's in

1518
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 3: people's backyards, you know, five minutes from your house. We

1519
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 3: can get to put on best price in the country,

1520
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 3: best service, great service. I've been in the tire business

1521
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 3: since nineteen seventy nine. When I started the tire business,

1522
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 3: there was no imported tires. None. Right now today, I

1523
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 3: you know, my brain's locking up them. I think seventy

1524
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 3: percent of the consumer tires that we put on our

1525
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 3: vehicles they're imported. We have offshore the tire industry. You know.

1526
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 3: It's just it's crazy that this happened in my lifetime,

1527
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: but I was part of it, what you would call

1528
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 3: a reformed globalist. I was in China in nineteen ninety three,

1529
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: and you say, well, why did we do this? Well,

1530
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: I know why we did it because I was in

1531
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 3: the seminars when the government people came in and said

1532
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 3: We're going to make the Chinese just like us. We're

1533
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 3: going to term into free market capitalists. We're going to

1534
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 3: break the back of Chinese communism. And you know, I

1535
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 3: haven't been in China for years, years. You know what's

1536
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 3: happened is and you know I'm looking at this. You know,

1537
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 3: just yesterday Trump took the Trump administration took a ten

1538
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 3: percent stake in another mining company. We're moving into a

1539
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 3: form of state capitalism to confront the threat that China

1540
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 3: poses because of their economic system is just better at winning.

1541
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 3: Ours is better at giving everybody a shot and lose it.

1542
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,759
Speaker 3: Theirs is better at given the country a shot at winning.

1543
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 3: And so we're changing are But what what I'm getting

1544
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 3: out of this from you is and I felt this myself,

1545
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 3: and I'm always afraid to say it because you know,

1546
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 3: I come out of that kind of Reagan era, which

1547
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 3: in Reagan was a free trader and an immigration supporter

1548
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 3: to the max. So, but there was a kind of

1549
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 3: an ethosund for.

1550
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: Sure, this was not a Democrat thing.

1551
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, I think they led the charge. If you

1552
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 3: look at Daddy Bush, Junior Bush, Reagan, we have such

1553
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, some of the states now they no longer

1554
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 3: have Lincoln Reagan dinners in the party. They're just Lincoln

1555
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 3: dinners because I think people are starting. But it's like

1556
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,480
Speaker 3: when I say this, there's gonna be people in Minnesota.

1557
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 3: How can you criticize Ronald Reagan? Well, I'll tell you how.

1558
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 3: He was the one that kicked off globala capitalism. He's

1559
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 3: the one that opened the borders for immigration. He's the

1560
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 3: one that put the security state in place. He got

1561
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 3: he just barely avoided going to jail for a ran contra.

1562
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 3: I mean, we're looking at the corruption. Really, they had

1563
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 3: the Mahaja Dean in the White House in nineteen eighty three.

1564
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 3: You know, the predecessors of the Taliban were welcomed into

1565
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 3: the White House. And we don't look at these things

1566
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 3: because we're not students of history. But my point is,

1567
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 3: you know, just talking with you, we could just take

1568
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 3: an hour and talk about since you have that Walmart experience,

1569
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 3: the numbers, the stats that you just laid off about

1570
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 3: seven percent.

1571
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 2: Corporations are too is incredible because everybody misunderstands the problem.

1572
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 2: And this goes deeper. We're going to have like major

1573
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 2: corporate issues too, because fundamentally the problem we have the

1574
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 2: reason we're in the fourth arning is because integrity is gone,

1575
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: Like there is no integrity in the institutions. That means

1576
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 2: the corporations, because it doesn't just mean that they're teaching

1577
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 2: you critical race theory and that the doing like gay

1578
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 2: Pride events. It's that like everybody's decision making process and

1579
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 2: I'm broadbrush here in positions of leadership is focused around

1580
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 2: non objective measures. It's about what feels good, it makes

1581
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 2: their resume look better, and what's better for their personal

1582
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, cohesion, the like brown nosing and looking good

1583
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 2: in the corporate setting. And that's how you get cracker

1584
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: barrel lit on fire. That's how you get Star Wars

1585
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 2: and Marvel. It wasn't necessarily because of the message. It's

1586
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: that because a lot of people sat around a room

1587
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 2: and said, well, it's okay if we talk about the

1588
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 2: message in these things. And in Walmart, I was the

1589
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 2: person whose job it was. I ran a team of

1590
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: one hundred people to fix the issues with their delivery,

1591
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 2: which are many. There are many, and we did it.

1592
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 2: We fixed millions and millions of customer orders. We found

1593
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 2: all of the things that these Indian engineers did wrong.

1594
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 2: We brought all this attention to it. I basically made

1595
01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 2: myself a hero for the customer inside Walmart, and everybody

1596
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: and leadership hated it. They just hated it. They wanted

1597
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't want to know how bad it.

1598
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 3: Was, how bad the customer experience was. And see here,

1599
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 3: what we do at this company is all we care

1600
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 3: about is service. That is the old integrity of the

1601
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 3: main street businessman where I come from. I live to

1602
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 3: make relationships with my customers, and that's gone. That's part

1603
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 3: of the hollowing out of the integrity. You know, when

1604
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 3: I try to do business now, I can't even get

1605
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 3: to human beings get caught up in these automatic you know,

1606
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 3: receptionists press one for this, two for that, three for that.

1607
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 3: It's such a devaluation of humanity.

1608
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you go to the Philippines and somebody who

1609
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 2: doesn't know, and then you provide them data about your

1610
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 2: experience and they don't use it. I was the first

1611
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 2: person to cross reference customer call data to upstream order

1612
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 2: information in Walmart, the first person, and I only did

1613
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 2: it in twenty nineteen. So it's like, not that longer goal.

1614
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 3: It's not that longer a goal.

1615
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 2: They had a twelve percent customer contact rate. This is

1616
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 2: the second largest e commerce platform, twelve percent customer That

1617
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 2: one in eight orders required somebody to get on the phone.

1618
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 2: And I actually put in place an analytics program to

1619
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 2: measure all the things wrong with the order. They hated it,

1620
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 2: they wanted to go on. But over forty percent of

1621
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 2: orders had at least one thing wrong with them in

1622
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 2: Walmart when I was there. And I'm sure it's just

1623
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 2: as bad, if not worse.

1624
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 3: But then what's even makes it really painful is when

1625
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 3: the customer calls and nobody cares. And that's if we

1626
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,600
Speaker 3: could get one change in the society. One of the

1627
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 3: things I'd like to see happen is is that we

1628
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 3: care one for another, which is actually kind of a

1629
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 3: Christian ideal. You know, treat your neighbor as you wish

1630
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 3: to be treated, you know. We there are fundamentals that

1631
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 3: are getting lost here, that are getting swept out in

1632
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:57,759
Speaker 3: what you called rent seeking.

1633
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Walmart's whole goal is to keep you off of

1634
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 2: the phone with an American as long as possible because

1635
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 2: it costs more money.

1636
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a great way to end. It was

1637
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 3: great to talk to you. The point is it's about

1638
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 3: the money. We got to follow the money. And this

1639
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 3: is kind of a perversion of the American way because

1640
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 3: in America we were free to pursue our economy, you know, life, liberty,

1641
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,440
Speaker 3: and the pursuit used to be the pursuit of property.

1642
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 3: They change the pursuit of happiness. But we have grown

1643
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 3: up in a system which has been weaponized against itself. Yeah,

1644
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 3: and you know that's.

1645
01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 2: Great if you're a libertarian. I love those ideals. That's fine.

1646
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 2: But if we lived in a libertarian country right now,

1647
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 2: everything would be controlled by Amazon and Google. That's it.

1648
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 3: So what you're saying is is that the way the

1649
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 3: system has been exploited is going to force us to

1650
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: change the system to deal with the exploitation. And actually,

1651
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 3: if I'm hearing you correctly, you're saying the wind us closing.

1652
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 3: We have to move quickly to do this if we

1653
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 3: want to do anything at all to keep the country

1654
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 3: away from socialism. As this younger cohort grows older, do

1655
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 3: I understand correctly your theory of the case.

1656
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 2: That's exactly it, And I try not to have my

1657
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 2: hair catch too much on fire about it. But you know,

1658
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 2: maybe I'm over selling the problem, But I think most

1659
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 2: people listening are probably like, no, you're not.

1660
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 3: Well, we got we got it. We're gonna I hope

1661
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 3: you come back. What we've got to do here is

1662
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,799
Speaker 3: in Minnesota, find a way to get younger people engaged

1663
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 3: in politics. We have to find issues that create unity,

1664
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 3: real unity. We got to get off the spectrum of

1665
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 3: blue and red because that's just tying us up in

1666
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 3: a meaningless fight. And while we're fighting with each other,

1667
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 3: we're getting robbed. Here in Minnesota. They're up to six

1668
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 3: or seven billion dollars of just fraught. And I'm going

1669
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 3: to say again for everybody listening in Minnesota, still a

1670
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 3: hundred million, that's a cruck six or seven billion. Follow

1671
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 3: that money and then we're gonna really learn something. Mark

1672
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 3: was so nice to meet you. I really enjoyed listening

1673
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 3: to you, and I hope you'll come back because what

1674
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 3: we need is some data. We need to organize our

1675
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 3: efforts around what is the future of the electorate. So

1676
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,759
Speaker 3: I want to thank you for informing me. Sincerely, Tanner,

1677
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 3: thank you for coming in this morning. Mark. We'll have

1678
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 3: you back soon. Everybody, Can you please Mark share your

1679
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 3: social media handles for the audience that might want to

1680
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 3: follow you and I suggest that they do.

1681
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I'd love to be back. I think one

1682
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 2: of the things that could help is if there was

1683
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 2: a national movement. It's not Maga like Trump can't fix

1684
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 2: this all, and it's not the Republican Party. People need

1685
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 2: to come together. I would love to help poll for

1686
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 2: that organization and provide my insights. Maybe Elon can fund it.

1687
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, but something's got to happen to tie

1688
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 2: all these grassroots together, and now's the time. But yeah,

1689
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 2: honest Poster on Twitter and Rasmuss and Underscore Poll on

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