WEBVTT - Bowl Previews: Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal coll that for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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<v Speaker 1>for day Edith State is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan

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<v Speaker 1>and Tye.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is ty hilden Brand, joining me as always my

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<v Speaker 2>man Dan or Rubinstein over there in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>But but but but but but but but Yeah, bright

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<v Speaker 2>and early on a Sunday morning here, we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>like any real, truly notable games that we want to

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<v Speaker 2>get through, though we will run through what happened on

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<v Speaker 2>the first Saturday of Bowl season. But just bright eyed,

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<v Speaker 2>bushy tailed here up early, gonna previews some bulls and

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<v Speaker 2>talk through some questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this time of year. Ty, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you. And it's not necessarily just because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays, but you know it's cold and rainy outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna watch some football. I've got a candle going

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<v Speaker 1>my pumpkins pumpkin pie spice candle roll. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>this coziness, Ti, and that's why I'm excited to be

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<v Speaker 1>sharing it with you and everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>With you, and everybody indeed, well, thank you again to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone for tuning in. This is going to go up

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday evening or so. We do have a couple

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<v Speaker 2>other Bowl preview shows that we're going to trot out

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<v Speaker 2>over the course of the next week week and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you haven't heard your team or your particular

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<v Speaker 2>bowl yet, don't worry. We will get to it, we promise,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll have it out to you in time for

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<v Speaker 2>your Christmas travels on the way to grandmother's house or

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<v Speaker 2>wherever it may be your head at this holiday season.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do our best to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you're covered on the college football front.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, if you're going to Dubai, if you're going to Caracas, Venezuela,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are going to the Changdong province. We got

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<v Speaker 1>you loud and clear. So why don't we start here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's very quickly run through the bowl action from me yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to deep dive this as we typically would,

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<v Speaker 2>but just to make sure that we cover all of

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<v Speaker 2>our bases, we had you toss State, winning by a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty two to thirteen score. Mason Fine popped the hammy

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<v Speaker 2>in that game in the first quarter, and things derailed

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<v Speaker 2>rather quickly for the mean Green as you toss. State

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<v Speaker 2>wins their eleventh game of the season to finish eleven

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<v Speaker 2>to two.

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<v Speaker 1>I was extremely wrong about that game, as was I

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<v Speaker 1>I and you know what I actually went against and

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<v Speaker 1>I we were making goofs about how we were picking

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<v Speaker 1>games in the confidence pool, and I was goofing about

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<v Speaker 1>buoyancy and coaches and stuff like that. But the actual

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<v Speaker 1>way I picked this confidence pool that I put together

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<v Speaker 1>is something I noticed last year, especially with these games

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<v Speaker 1>early on, where this is something you talked about, like

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<v Speaker 1>you want to figure out who cares more. You know

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<v Speaker 1>where the motivation is. And so I look at my

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<v Speaker 1>liked analytics, the points per drive defense metric, because defense

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<v Speaker 1>is caring, motivation effort. And yesterday I went, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have gone five for five if I took all of

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<v Speaker 1>the points per drive defense, and I just there was

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<v Speaker 1>something about Utah State. I was like, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>trust him, and I was wrong. Ty, I was wrong

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone else is ever the better defenses across the

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<v Speaker 1>board one on Saturday, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Very wrong as well. To that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Tou Lane also knocked off Louisiana. Louisiana just couldn't stop

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<v Speaker 2>tou Lane, at least in the first quarter. They tried

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<v Speaker 2>to make it a game in the second half, but

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't meant to be. Forty one to twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>was your final there. I took that one on the

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<v Speaker 2>chin as well. Ooh, we had Fresno State living up

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<v Speaker 2>to their billing, finishing twelve and two. A great year

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<v Speaker 2>for Jeff Tedford. This went in the Las Vegas Bawl.

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<v Speaker 2>They beat Arizona State by thirty one to twenty final score.

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<v Speaker 1>Not great quarterback play, but both you know, Benjamin and

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno States back I think his name was Rivers. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple big long Ronnie Rivers, excuse me, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple long runs. Really really cool to see Fresno State

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<v Speaker 1>finish with an exclamation point.

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Southern and the Option finishes with a ten win

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<v Speaker 2>season twenty three to twenty one in the Amelia Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>the knockoff Eastern Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>This is true, a wild Chamelia Ball. Last second field

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<v Speaker 1>goal I believe to win this game and forty yarders. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Southern gets to double digit wins. You know, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years of not great football for the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>culminating in a ten win season over Eastern Fantastic great job.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally app State knocks off Middle Tennessee. This one

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<v Speaker 2>was only three to nil in favor of Middle Tennessee

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<v Speaker 2>after the first quarter, but that's when app State poured

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<v Speaker 2>it on. They end up winning by a forty five

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<v Speaker 2>to thirteen score. Eleven and two is the final mark for.

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<v Speaker 1>You were in on the Blue Raiders. I wasn't no, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm convince you, I'm one hundred percent sure that

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<v Speaker 2>I was app State because we remember we did this

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<v Speaker 2>thing where it's like, you know my rule, if a

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<v Speaker 2>coach is leaving, you think about going the other way

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<v Speaker 2>unless it's a mismatch. And my point was that I

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<v Speaker 2>thought this one was a pretty big mismatch in it

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<v Speaker 2>eventually did play out there on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>I never keep you. And because I do a show

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<v Speaker 1>on ESPN plus Hey with Jeff Schwartz.

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<v Speaker 3>We look very similar.

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<v Speaker 1>There is something about you and Jeff Schwartz where it's

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<v Speaker 1>just hard to tell you to a part just the

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<v Speaker 1>physical presence of the two of you. It's forward NFL

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<v Speaker 1>lineman and tiled and brand. Yeah, an up and down,

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<v Speaker 1>weird game for the app State offense started slow, but

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<v Speaker 1>bam did they pour it on. This one got out

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<v Speaker 1>of hand quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I stood next to Jeff Schwartz one time at the

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<v Speaker 2>Pisman and chatted with him for a while about the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants and some other football things. Great, dude, I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>the size of his upper thigh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all are combined, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we also have some I think if I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at my she correct, we have some news. If I

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<v Speaker 2>do the breaking news thing right now, I'll wake up

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<v Speaker 2>my wife in the whisper.

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<v Speaker 1>Just be like a very gentle breaking news, breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>Boo boo, boop boop. First of all, I know this

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<v Speaker 1>is not what you're alluding to, But you do not

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<v Speaker 1>just waltz into the Fargo Dome. No, you do not.

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<v Speaker 1>I am sorry. It's the jack Rabbits, I believe of

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<v Speaker 1>South Dakota State made it a game. There was some excitement,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some fun. Somebody scored points in the Fargo Dome,

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<v Speaker 1>which is new for rare the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Eastern Stick and the Bison put what forty

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<v Speaker 1>four on South Dakota State and advance to Frisco to

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<v Speaker 1>the national Championship, the FCS National Championship.

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<v Speaker 2>I need a harder z though. If you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>say bye byes, got to get.

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<v Speaker 1>It right byes. And I think Eastern Eastern Washington on

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<v Speaker 1>the red field, they just completely dominate the Black Bears

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<v Speaker 1>of Maine. So that should be fun. Those are two

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<v Speaker 1>superpowers on the FCS level meeting in Frisco. Hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>got a good game in three weeks something like that. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe Valdosta State is your D two champion. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that, so my gosh. Yeah, they in a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy shootout over Farris State. So fun things happen at

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<v Speaker 1>all levels, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So on that note, Yeah, awkward segue to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>DJ Durkin, who has been named an advisor at Yama,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of falling in the footsteps of other coaches who

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<v Speaker 2>have lost their jobs for one reason or another.

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<v Speaker 3>They're looking for a new gig.

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<v Speaker 2>They end up signing on to that Nick Saban coaching

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<v Speaker 2>tree slash coaching machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's not hired. This is not a he's

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<v Speaker 1>not even an analyst. He's coming into it's a weird look.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. He's coming in to advise and help ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the playoff. This is nothing new that Nick Saban

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<v Speaker 1>has done. Even at this time. I remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Rodriguez has done some work there. So they've had

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<v Speaker 1>offensive and defensive guys come in and take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at film with them. So it's again a weird look

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<v Speaker 1>timing wise, But I guess that he's not an employee

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not a full time guy, and somebody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to hire DJ Durkin for some role like this eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's going to be prosecuted. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is just one of those things that it's better to

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<v Speaker 1>just make peace with, as strange as it may seem

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<v Speaker 1>upon first glance.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when Kramer started going to work at Leland.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Brief, kid, Just crackers, okay, Ye, app State we mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>them a few minutes ago hired Eli Drinkwitz, Yes off

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<v Speaker 2>the Gus Malzon off, the Brian Harson, the Dave Duran

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<v Speaker 2>coaching tree. Eli was with I believe n C State

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years as offensive coordinator, and so now

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<v Speaker 2>they're bringing in someone who's relatively local to the position

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<v Speaker 2>and congratulations to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he's from Arkansas, but it's been all over.

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<v Speaker 1>He was at Arkansas State with Gus and Brian Harson,

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<v Speaker 1>followed him to Poise and then of course got the

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<v Speaker 1>job with Dave Doran at NC State. So obviously when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at some of the players developed at MC

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<v Speaker 1>state's great job throughout the years. Cool hire, We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens, young guy like thirty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty five, Okay, we got a new head coach at

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<v Speaker 2>Akron tom Arth from UT Chattanooga.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh what else here?

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a new coordinator on the defensive side for

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Dan, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Co coordinators, the safety's coach, and I believe the outside

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<v Speaker 1>linebackers coach replacing Manny Diaz. So it takes two men

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<v Speaker 1>to replace everything that Manny Diaz did for Miami. So

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<v Speaker 1>continuity there. Obviously, it's going to help with recruiting that

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<v Speaker 1>somebody isn't brought in last second. And I think both

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys that they've hired are are promoted, are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well regarded with in the program.

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<v Speaker 2>And some other coordinator hires here or promotions, what have you.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyson Summers is going to be the Colorado defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 2>has some familiarity with Colorado State, of course and some

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<v Speaker 2>of his previous work. We've got Nate Woody who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the Army defensive coordinator. And my boy, Mike Sandford, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't work out at Western Kentucky, but he is going

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<v Speaker 2>to Utah State as the offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>Was wondering where he was going to end up. Smaller

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<v Speaker 1>than I would have thought as a destination. Utah State

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<v Speaker 1>because is super well regarded on the West Coast as

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<v Speaker 1>a coordinator Stanford, Boise State, and at Notre Dame. You

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<v Speaker 1>were a fan of his, even though the four and

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<v Speaker 1>eight season I don't think was a reflection on him necessarily,

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<v Speaker 1>but young dude so pretty well regarded and we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see what his career path looks like. And

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Tyson Summers. Should also mention the last time

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<v Speaker 1>he was a defensive coordinator. That would have been twenty

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen for UCF. That defense, that was the last year

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Leary cared for reference that UCF defense. That night

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<v Speaker 1>defense was amazing. Yeah, that was the Griffin brothers. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>yeah right, that was a really really good defense. So

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully that means good things because the head coaching role

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<v Speaker 1>did not work out from a Georgia Southern for the Buffaloes.

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting to say.

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<v Speaker 3>So here is the way the rest of this show

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<v Speaker 3>is going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, Let's do it, Dane.

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<v Speaker 3>The Week Full disclosure.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not have a chance to make a new

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl sound, but I will have one in time for Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I got one cooking up in the lab right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did make a joke to you. We

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<v Speaker 1>were texting about this show and I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, from now on, I'm gonna give a Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl update. Didn't get hurt Bowl previews and I immediately

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<v Speaker 1>I think he hurt his foot pretty badly, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am bummed out y.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, okay, we've got a lighter slate of

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<v Speaker 2>games here. We're only gonna do six games because we

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<v Speaker 2>did a bunch on our last show. We're way out

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<v Speaker 2>over our skis at this point, so we've got plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of runway. Hopefully you got in on the confidence pool.

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<v Speaker 2>You made your picks. The good news about the way

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<v Speaker 2>that they set up the confidence pool is okay, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got some games that are locked in now that you

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<v Speaker 2>can't change, but the other ones you can still move

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<v Speaker 2>them around. I believe you can still change who you

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<v Speaker 2>think is gonna win or lose. So we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>our best to stay on top of all of that action.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, because we got so far out in front

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<v Speaker 2>last show, we're only gonna do six today and then

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna, I think, have some time at the end

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<v Speaker 2>for questions.

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<v Speaker 3>These solicited questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we had a bunch of them, so early bowl

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<v Speaker 1>season you can ask about whatever you want bowl wise,

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<v Speaker 1>is what I told people. We got some food questions,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, people are going to be hosting others

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<v Speaker 1>around this time of year, but mostly Bowl and football questions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got good ones.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start with the bulls and let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bahamas Bowl. Let's the Makers Wanted Bahamas bull Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been to the Bahamas? I have not.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been to the Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, like bring break in two thousand and three or

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Let that go for you.

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<v Speaker 3>It was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched a guy do a cannon ball into a

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<v Speaker 2>hot tub and crack his head open.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up Makers Wanted and all that comes up

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<v Speaker 1>is the Bahamas Bowl. Like there's no, there's the Elk

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<v Speaker 1>Grove Business Elk Grove Village Business Park. They make it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want sure, are they? I?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a business park that is sponsoring the

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<v Speaker 1>Bahamas Bowl. So if you have w one hundred bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>if your name is Devin and you want to sponsor

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<v Speaker 1>a bowl, it can be the Devin Bowl Offshore.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure makers want it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Robinson Stadium in Nasau cool place for a game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're Toledo. We've got this. Used to be

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<v Speaker 2>the what chick fil A Bowl? I believe Chick fil

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<v Speaker 2>A Bowl? No, they still got a Chick fil A Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, but I think, oh no, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>serve what was not the chick fil A Bahamas Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>The Popeyes Bahamas Bull always Popeyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, excuse me? Yes, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Friday twelve twenty one on ESPN, it is FIU at

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<v Speaker 2>eight and four, squaring off against the Toledo Rockets at

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<v Speaker 2>seven and six. Toledo currently a six point favorite. They

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<v Speaker 2>get a gift suite, a Yetti rambler, a string backpack,

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<v Speaker 2>board shorts, a towel, and a pin seems reasonable enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this. I'm not gonna sit here and

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<v Speaker 1>promote YETI they're not paying to promote YETI happened to

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<v Speaker 1>have one because it was a Bowld gift of our

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<v Speaker 1>own when we went to the National championship what last year,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can find yourself a rambler, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>what this type of drinking apparatus is called. They're great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go and find it, like a knockoff one whatever on

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon or wherever these fine goods are sold. They're wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>They fit in your car holder, correct, Yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would highly recommend. They're like a stainless steel that's insulated.

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<v Speaker 1>Go wild. I'm all about hydration, ty, you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>So look, I'm not enamored with either team here, but

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<v Speaker 2>I am far less enamored with Toledo's defense and any

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<v Speaker 2>other unit on the field. They gave up thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>points to Northern Illinois towards the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a statement in the wrong kind of statement.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys gave up a lot of points this year,

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<v Speaker 2>except against the Mighty Ball State Cardinals, who gave me

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<v Speaker 2>their name A fight throw that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go with the fi U offense. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go.

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<v Speaker 3>With captain James Morgan.

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<v Speaker 2>He set a school record at twenty six touchdown passes,

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<v Speaker 2>which Jones is coaching the Panthers these days.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not at all confident here. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>good read for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna say f IU, even though they're a dog,

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<v Speaker 2>I like them outright, but only about eleven ish confidence points.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no real bad losses for FYU. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>they lose to Indiana, they lose at Miami, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were competitive enough in that game. They finished the season

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<v Speaker 1>winning six of eight. James Morgan's fine, a little sloppy

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<v Speaker 1>with the ball, but yeah, they generate big plays and

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<v Speaker 1>their defense is not a wreck. So yeah, moving on

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<v Speaker 1>the confidence points? Are you eleven but they're at eleven eleven? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have let me let me load it up real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is my confidence pool? Whatever? We'll get back to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Famous Idaho Potato Bowl in Albertson Stadium in Boise. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got Western Michigan at seven and five against BYU at

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<v Speaker 2>six and six. BYU actually out a thirteen point favorite here,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan when we last left our heroes, the Cougars. They

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<v Speaker 2>gave away a twenty point lead in the Holy War

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<v Speaker 2>Holy close out their season, and you could probably make

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<v Speaker 2>a strong case that that Holy War against Utah was

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<v Speaker 2>their de facto national championship.

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<v Speaker 3>So my question to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is will be why you be motivated to take home

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<v Speaker 2>all the potatoes at the famous Sidahoe Potato ble Well.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to be well hydrated because they are given

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<v Speaker 1>hydro flasks, which I believe is what is that? It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a drink holder, similar to a rambler. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's a plastic type drink holder. Oakley backpack, Beanie,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing crazy. I'm going to byu here because of their defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They are just they do not allow bigger plays and

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<v Speaker 1>they are in that way a boa constrictor or in

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<v Speaker 1>this case a by you constricted. No, yes, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's early, all right, thank you very much. My biggest

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<v Speaker 1>recommend I am going to byu here. My biggest recommendation

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<v Speaker 1>is go to that. I think it's called the Hawkins

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<v Speaker 1>pack out. It's a burger shack that's been around since

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties or sixties and boise. Notice the pronunciation it's

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<v Speaker 1>really good. I love a good old burger shack. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my recommendation for this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want to overlook the fact that Western

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<v Speaker 2>beat Northern Illinois at the end of the year. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know I just crapped on Northern Illinois offense, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's still a pretty good win for them. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think i'd want to go points here BYU minus thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think BYU wins and I'm pretty confident in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd say around thirty confidence points for me, I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six.

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<v Speaker 1>TI wow, Okay, thirty six, so we sort of agree.

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<v Speaker 1>We sort of agree. And I did take Elliott's. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had Georgia Southern at thirty one, I had North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina A and T at thirty two, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno State at thirty four. It looks like, yeah, telling

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<v Speaker 1>you get those points to get him early. Yep. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I had Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 2>Very high and that didn't work. Yeah, rough, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>also had who else did I have? I had someone

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<v Speaker 2>else in there that lost very high online?

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jared Birmingham Bowl, Yes, at Legion Field in Birmingham.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on ESPN on Saturday. The twenty second. It's between

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis at eight and five and wake Forest at six

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<v Speaker 2>and six. Currently, the Tigers are a three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half point favorite. In this game, the participants will get

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<v Speaker 2>a gift suite, an Oakley backpack, or sunglasses.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'd go backpack. I think so too.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a cooling hoodie whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>That is no disrespect to bit Roberts though, no no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah yeah, and a football.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, another one where the gift suite's doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of heavy lifting. But listen, if you are Liz,

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<v Speaker 1>a Memphis or Wake Forest player, and you are in

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<v Speaker 1>either of those areas over the summer, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>a cooling hoodie sounds incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Okay, I'm with it. Okay, So I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>five points in this game. I have zero feel for

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<v Speaker 2>which direction this one's headed. It feels to me like

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis is the better team. I know they've got a

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<v Speaker 2>better offense. I think Bill Connolly ranks them something like

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<v Speaker 2>fifty spots higher in the S and P plus. But

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Wake season. Their worst loss was FSU,

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<v Speaker 2>which isn't a great loss, mind you, but the rest

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<v Speaker 2>were Notre Dame Clemson, Boston College, Syracuse, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Etc.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually beat NC State and Duke in the final

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<v Speaker 2>month of the season. So I can't tell if this

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<v Speaker 2>is a WAKE team that is more a victim of

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty tough schedule, or if it's a Wake team

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<v Speaker 2>that's inconsistent enough to have trouble here with Memphis. I

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<v Speaker 2>am gonna go with my gut and say Memphis, but

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<v Speaker 2>like five points, five confidence points. Wouldn't want to touch

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<v Speaker 2>the point spread here because it just it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>this one could go either way.

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<v Speaker 1>Big issue for Memphis or big three issues there without

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<v Speaker 1>their offensive defensive coordinators who both got new jobs. Kenny

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<v Speaker 1>Dillingham is the offensive coordinator. He goes to Auburn. Northern

0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Arizona hired Memphis defensive coordinator for their head coaching job.

0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Darrell Henderson, who maybe one of the best three running

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<v Speaker 1>backs in the country not playing in this game, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's going pro. So I still am gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go Memphis because the defense. If I'm going to lock

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<v Speaker 1>in my points per drive metric as an indicator for

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<v Speaker 1>bowl games and effort motivation, blah blah blah, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>still to me a little bit more consistent about Memphis

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<v Speaker 1>even without all of that, than there is to me

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<v Speaker 1>about wake Who. Yes, as you mentioned, they were flip

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<v Speaker 1>flopping every week, losing to the Florida State team the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they do this year's Florida State team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and then going to NC State. Obviously winning

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<v Speaker 1>is strange. Killing Duke strange, but I'm going with consistency

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<v Speaker 1>and motivation. Here a side note, or actually two side

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<v Speaker 1>notes with this game. One Jared Birmingham name of a

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<v Speaker 1>country singer, and the side note about him when you

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<v Speaker 1>look him up, he will haunt your dreams. Oh number two,

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<v Speaker 1>This is Jared as in The Jeweler, The Jeweler. Have

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<v Speaker 1>we ever seen a picture of this Jared? I have

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<v Speaker 1>not seen the Jared, but the not great commercials of

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<v Speaker 1>Jared the Jeweler, combined with the fact that Jared is

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<v Speaker 1>secretly one of the most relatively recent awful names because

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<v Speaker 1>of the Subway guy. I looked up the popularity of

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<v Speaker 1>the name Jared since twenty fifteen time it has taken

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<v Speaker 1>a nose dug two hundreds to four hundreds. It has

0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 1>completely fallen off the map. So this is not great

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<v Speaker 1>for the Birmingham Bull. But I have Memphis here with

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<v Speaker 1>a good amount of confidence. I believe I have Memphis

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<v Speaker 1>with Oh my gosh, this is my most confident I

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<v Speaker 1>might have to change forty one points for Memphis. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I'm changing the wake Forest.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked me out of Memphis, just as you put

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<v Speaker 2>all your confidence points on that with.

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<v Speaker 1>The coordinators and Darrel Henderson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would be a hypocrite if I didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>Wake Forest here, because again, it's not so big of

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<v Speaker 2>a mismatch that Memphis, I think would would rule supreme

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<v Speaker 2>here in light of arrackles of the circumstances. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go Wake here. I'm gonna change it. But I'm

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 2>sick stick with five confidence points, not at all. I

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<v Speaker 2>might adjust my confidence here, Okay. The Lockheed Martin Armed

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Forces Bowl they played at M. G. Carter Stadium in

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Fort Worth, Texas. It's also on Saturday the twenty second

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<v Speaker 2>on ESPN. It's a clash between Houston at eight and

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<v Speaker 2>four and the Army Knights at ten and two. A

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<v Speaker 2>great year for Army. They are a three and a

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<v Speaker 2>half point favorite in this game. Dan they get a

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<v Speaker 2>gift suite, a Bluetooth speaker, helmet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, and football. It sounds like what Sports Illustrated

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<v Speaker 1>would be giving away in the twenteen ninety six if

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<v Speaker 1>the head of bowl game, Army will be without Jay Bateman,

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>their defensive coordinator. I don't believe he will be coaching

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 1>in this game. He is the new defensive coordinator at

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:26.200
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. Houston certainly still without Derek King, their starting

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:28.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterback who went down and believed with a meniscus tear

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.880
<v Speaker 1>late in the season, but Houston still able to move

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. I'm going to go Army here again because

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>of the defense. Houston's defense was a mess this year.

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.360
<v Speaker 1>They fire their defensive coordinator pretty late in the process

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of the season. So I am still going with Army

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.879
<v Speaker 1>to control this game in Fort Worth, even though Houston

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 1>has what appears to be will have more traveling fans.

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>And I will add this tie because I know you

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<v Speaker 1>care just immensely. Las Superior for Tacos in the greater

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Fort Worth area. It is a tortilla factory at Tortilla

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Bakery at for Ti area that also makes their own tacos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm all in on Army here. Not only is

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<v Speaker 2>the Eric King out, but Ed Oliver is not playing

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 2>for the Cougars, and keep in mind that they also

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:16.360
<v Speaker 2>canned their defensive coordinator fairly recently. They're just a lot

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 2>going on here for Houston on the defensive side of

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>the ball. Not good stuff, and I don't think that's

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 2>a great formula against a team like Army, which runs

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<v Speaker 2>the option really effectively. They're a disciplined team. They hold

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the ball for thirty nine minutes. If you don't know

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>about Kelvin Hopkins or Darnell Wolfork, look them up. See

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 2>what they've been up to all season. It's been really impressive.

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned the Army defense, which has been pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good all seasons. So I think they continue that trend.

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't think motivation's an issue for Army. I like

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 2>them to the tune of twenty nine confidence points done.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, moving on, we agree.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dollar General Ball at lad People Stadium in Mobile, Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>also on Saturday, the twenti second, also on ESPN, Buffalo

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<v Speaker 2>at ten to three is two and a half point

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>favorite over the Troy Trojans at nine and three. In

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<v Speaker 2>this one, Daniel, they get this, listen to this. This

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<v Speaker 2>is very very This here, I think is the sleeper pick. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>a Yamaha sound bar with built in subwolfer Ooh tasty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking it up right now.

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I could sink my teeth into a Yamaha sound bar

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<v Speaker 2>right about now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh this looks great. I mean, I don't know how

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>it compares to others, but for just playing in a

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<v Speaker 1>game and getting it for walking through the door. Wonderful gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Also say hello to our old friends over at the

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<v Speaker 2>time we watch Company Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this will be a custom if I am reading

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>this correctly, A custom dollar General Bowl watch. So okay,

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 1>if that's something you feel like wearing all the time,

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>good for you. Maui Jim sunglasses and a Wilson game ball.

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Not the worst soundbar, probably taking up the budget, but

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>there are worse things to get, and especially for Troy,

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>which I think is like two hours away from Mobile,

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>so de facto home game, pretty far away from Buffalo.

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I actually liked the Trojans here because of their defense,

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>stepping up in a year where they had to replace

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot on offense. I thought Neil Brown did a

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>terrific job, and as much as I enjoyed the Buffalo story,

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I think the disappointment we talk about motivated teams. Buffalo

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>like a play and a half away from winning the

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:30.120
<v Speaker 1>MAC and now they're in the They're in lad Peebles

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and playing in the Dollar General Bowl. I like Troy

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>here by a good amount, so I have a confidence

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>level for the Trojans. Let's verify this. Twenty six points?

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow wow, I feel good about it. Yeah, yeah, I

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>like Troy a lot. I am going to go Troy

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:44.399
<v Speaker 1>as well.

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I've got a dilemma here between Buffalo and their offense,

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 2>which was one of the best stories all year, and

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 2>Neil Brown, who's a great young coach, as you said,

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>de facto home game. He's going for his third straight

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 2>season with ten or more wins. He's two in bowl games.

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Just just a little bit more on that side of

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the coin. To kind of sway me here, I'll say, Troy,

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not as confident as you give me, like fifteen

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>confidence points. Okay, we sort of and our final game

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 2>before we tackle some questions the Sofi Hawaii Bowl?

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<v Speaker 3>What is so Fi?

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Dan?

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Can you look that up?

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that an investment something? An investment something, isn't it?

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, yeah, great rates, great benefits is what

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 1>they are. Claiming to be. It's an online personal finance

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>company that provides student loan refinancing, mortgages, and personal loans.

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>This is not an endorsement. Do a ton of research

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.400
<v Speaker 1>if you need something like this, because you don't want

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>to be underinformed.

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>So fi Hawaii Bowl at a Loha Stadium in Honolulu, Hawaii,

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>also on Saturday the twenty second, also on ESPN. It

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 2>is between Hawaii at eight and five and Louisiana Tech

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 2>at seven and five.

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 1>This one's a pick them, so you pick your favorite.

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 3>Listen to this.

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Get a load of this.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Dan ooh Li man an electronics gift sweet.

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm intrigued.

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 3>It's just gift sweet, is what they say.

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just a room full of composite cables. Who RCA. Yeah.

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>They also get an Oakley backpack, Oakley sunglasses, a Tory

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Richard Aloha shirt, shorts and swim trunks, a performance T shirt,

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>and a beach towel.

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Seems like a nice little loot there.

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh, I'm totally for this Hawaii Bowl gift suite.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>The electronics thing. You got your sunglasses, you're in Hawaii.

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>You get your backpack, you get your swim trunks, you

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>get a beach towel, which I think is a thorough

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>way of thinking about it. And this is something we

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>bring up or I bring up every year. I can

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>only speak for myself, but I am inching closer to

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>becoming a Hawaiian shirt guy. Really no, printed, not full time,

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>not all the time, but in terms of invited to barbecue, cookout,

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it over the summer, the printed,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>lighter weight, button up shirt tie. Yeah. Who am I

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to impress at this point? WHOA? I want comfort?

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm going in this direction. Are you going

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to go mustache too? If I could, I would seasonally

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>grow a mustache, for sure. Wow. Yeah, but it just

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>does not. I can grow facial hair, I can grow

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the scruff that I have, but the mustache does not

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>come in as full as I'd like to make that

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a part of my at least part time identity.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 2>See, if I let it go for like two and

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 2>a half weeks, I'd be like super Mario. I could

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>go and I can have the whole push broom thing

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 2>going on.

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>If I really I've seen your mustache, I would not

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>make that comparison. You haven't seen it fully grown out well?

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Improve it. Ty, you can't all be can't be all

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>talk even though this is an audio podcast. Let's do

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>something for the people.

0:29:58.160 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about that.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's make up. Let's make later on. I don't know

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>if it's a Notre dame prop that we need to

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>make a mustache bet. Yeah, I mean, I'll grow it

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>for whatever allotted amount of time we agree on and

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>we can compare.

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Much to the chagrin of I need to think about this.

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>This could have ramifications.

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's find a game. We've previewed how many games as

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>far twelve fourteen, something like that. Yeah, let's find a

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>game in the back half where we find something that

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>we dramatically disagree on, and we'll go from there. Aside

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>from that, though, because I'm not now that intrigued by

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Hawaii Louisiana Attack, I think I'm taking Louisiana Attack. What

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>single cable or wire if this electronics gift suite we

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>joke about composite, What single cable or wire in this suite?

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>If it were only this cable or wire would you

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>be most excited to walk in and see that you

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>could load up on?

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I would say probably like a twenty five foot lightning

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 2>charging cable.

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that would be incredible. Charge your from wherever.

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Twenty five thirty feet more of that, like braided texture

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>on the outside, so it's not going to break.

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Yep, you've got one in your apartment.

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Actually, you have got one right next to my couch

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>that can go anywhere on the couch. Yep, it's a

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>braided I don't remember what brand. I'm not giving them

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>a free plug, but it's amazing, it's incredible. I think

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the right answer. Yeah, okay, high quality braided lightning,

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>all right. I like Cole McDonald.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>He's the Hawaii quarterback, provided he can stay clear of

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Ferguson. He is the so called sack daddy Dan.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>He is indeed the sack daddy. He's got fifteen sacks

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>this season. He's got forty four and a half in

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 2>his career. I think the Hawaii offense overpowers Louisiana Tech,

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>but beware because Louisiana tack's won four straight bowl games.

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go Hawaii here. You're going out right, outright

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty confidence points.

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Hawaii's defense is dreadful, and I know it's a

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>home game for the Warriors. Are they back to the

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Rainbow Warriors. I'm not sure, purposely not saying it because

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't sure. I am going to go Louisiana tach

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>here because I mean, their their defense is at least

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty good, even though their offense is sort of a mess.

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I lie, like, what's it's sack Daddy, Sack.

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Daddy Jalen Ferguson.

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm going with I'm going with Ferguson as a

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>game changer. I assume he's playing, because why wouldn't he.

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going with Louisiana Tech. We doesn't wait.

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, more Bowl games will be forthcoming, we promise. Yep uh.

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned to our show a little bit later on

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 2>this week, where we'll dive into some others. But in

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 2>the meantime, Dan, because we knew we'd have a little

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 2>bit of extra time, because we knew that this was

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 2>going to be a very early recording time, we decided

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 2>let's just sort of ease our way into Sunday morning

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:53.080
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<v Speaker 2>It's terrific, all right, Dan, let's dive into questions. You

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.879
<v Speaker 2>solicited them late last night or early this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we got.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot of emails since our last show

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<v Speaker 1>where we talked about going to eight teams for the playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has. The funny thing about people's playoff thoughts is

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<v Speaker 1>there are only like seven teams realistically have a shot

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>to get in the playoff every year, nine teams whatever.

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>But everybody has thoughts on the playoffs. Oh yeah, and

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>where it should be going. And I appreciate that. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the passion that people have.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me let me jump in for a second,

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<v Speaker 2>because I erroneously drew reference to the old Dan Wetzel

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<v Speaker 2>playoff plan. Oh updated, Yeah, he updated it. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>seen it. Somebody in a stute for Baller pointed it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But you could still prefer that. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that plan.

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<v Speaker 2>But Dan has since updated his plan and he's basically

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<v Speaker 2>saying now that there's there's no need to go to

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 2>sixteen if we can be smarter about how we utilize

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:43.399
<v Speaker 2>the conference championships.

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>So he is now, but he wanted he wanted to.

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>He wants to utilize them as like quarter final games

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and not actually play conference championships, right.

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Is essentially yeah, in a weird like hybrid way. But

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 2>he's advocating for eight teams now in the playoff, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would advise everyone go read what he has to

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:04.760
<v Speaker 2>say on the matter because it's always very well thought

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>out and very well informed. And you know, we've had

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Dan on the show countless time, so I like his

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.760
<v Speaker 2>line of thinking. Be it eight, be a sixteen teams,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just I needed to make sure I got

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<v Speaker 2>that on the record that he did in fact update

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<v Speaker 2>his official plan at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you updated your thought about whether or not the

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>playoffs should be an event like an unto itself event

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<v Speaker 1>or a national champion finder?

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<v Speaker 2>First and foremost, see, I don't know what that means.

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 2>So basically I don't know what you said it on

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 2>the show and when I went back and I edited it. Sure,

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 2>you're a very smart man, mind you, sometimes I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>smart enough to understand what you mean by that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, like the NC DOUBLEA tournament is an event that

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>happens to find a national champion at the end, right, correct,

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>You're not necessarily watching the NC doublea tournament because you

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>want to find the best team, because a team can

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<v Speaker 1>get hot and beat what we perceive by whatever metric

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and whatever schedule and resume to be the best team. Okay,

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>The idea is that it's not a national championship event

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<v Speaker 1>as much as it is, you know, a whittling down

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>and there are upsets, and there are crazy moments, and

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>there are cool stories and narratives, and so the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff gets, the more in the direction of we're

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<v Speaker 1>not just doing this to find a national would.

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<v Speaker 2>You But would you say the same thing about the

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.280
<v Speaker 2>NBA playoffs or the NFL playoffs or the baseball playoffs?

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<v Speaker 1>I would say no, not with series based. I would

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>say that with the NFL playoffs for sure, like it's

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl stands apart to me from the NFL playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Like people watch the NFL playoffs even though if they

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<v Speaker 1>know if they're this team or that team doesn't necessarily

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>have a chance, but they want to watch a high

0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>level game between two good teams. But in watching a

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>series thing is different watching MLB or NBA or hockey,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is definitely no.

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm not smart enough to understand this

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 2>logic now for me.

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Like here here, here would be an example. So in

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<v Speaker 1>an eighteen playoff this year, who would well Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 1>ended up as the three seed? Yep, right, who would

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame end up playing in the first round and

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>they would play who whoever the sixth seed is? The

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>sixth seed is. So in this case, it would be

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:12.720
<v Speaker 1>what Ohio State? Sure would you watch? If I should

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<v Speaker 1>answer this question, thinking Ohio State and Notre Dame are

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>probably flawed to flawed to beat Alabama or maybe Clemson,

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>would I still watch this game because I get a

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>high level experience one hundred percent? Right, to me, it

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>feels like that's not necessarily winnowing down, whittling down, excuse me,

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>to a national champion. But at the same time, it's like,

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 1>this is a cool thing that we have as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of these resumes and teams, Like I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 1>the Rose Bowl And if that were a playoff, a

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen team playoff matchup between Ohio State and Washington, I'd

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>be like, this is cool. I get Washington secondary against

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State's offense and Dwayne Haskins maybe his last game.

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 1>There is something about being a part of an event,

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<v Speaker 1>even though we're not realistically thinking this is a true

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<v Speaker 1>national championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Finder it's hard for me to decouple the playoff experience

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<v Speaker 2>from the regular season experience. I am perfectly fine with

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 2>playing out your regular season with seeding teams to the

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>best of our ability, and then letting them hash it

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 2>out on the field, whether it's a one game playoff

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:17.839
<v Speaker 2>or three game playoff, I am all for letting them

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 2>decide it on the field. I hated the old system. Great, yeah,

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the old old system.

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so everybody plays a ball and then there's just time.

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<v Speaker 3>I hated.

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I hated that it shouldn't be in the hands of

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 2>sports riders to decide who is the national champion.

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>To disagree, you should let them, thank you.

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 2>You should let them play it out on the field

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 2>and see who the best team is. So for my money,

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 2>now I can't separate one from the other. You play

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 2>your regular season to get into the playoff. Once you

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 2>get into the playoff system, whatever that is, you got

0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to win three games, two games, whatever in order to

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:52.399
<v Speaker 2>prove that you are the best team in the land.

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 2>That's the way that this should work.

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay, But do you still agree, disagree whatever with if

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>we go to something like eight first, Well, do you

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>want it the best eight teams period or do you

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>want autobids?

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I think we go conference champs and then three at

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:11.359
<v Speaker 2>large bids, one of which should should include or should

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 2>try to include a group of five.

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with the five conference champs, the best G

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>five team, and the two at larges. And I'm okay

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>with that because if you are truly an excellent team

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>that happens to go up against another excellent team in

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>your conference, you're probably still getting in. You're not being

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like Georgia would not be left out this year in

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>that system. And I think we're still looking this as

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 1>a TV event. We still want it to be relatively

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>inclusive because of the Power five structure of teams that

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>even if a Pac twelve team is not having great year,

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>they're probably there's probably something about that Pac twelve team, like,

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 1>for instance, once again Washington's defense this year that plays

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>on a playoff level caliber. They're not a complete team.

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I think there is something about that that is interesting

0:42:57.280 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to me, and that would also get us Dwayne Haskins

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>in the playoff this year, that would get us the

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Washington Secondary and that would get us UCF or whoever

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.879
<v Speaker 1>it is in any given year from the G five level.

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>So I think I'm okay with that. You know, having

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the best teams it gets us into like a lot

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>of rerun territory, and I'm not always the biggest fan

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of that. If this is still a TV event.

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 3>You're losing me a little bit. But we're just gonna

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:22.880
<v Speaker 3>have to agree to this.

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, here, I think I think you play the regular

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 2>season to get to the playoff.

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 3>You play the playoff to get the trophy.

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, does UCF resemble a star intern thinking they should

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>be ceo? Oh man, that's so mean wow? Or should

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.760
<v Speaker 1>they not be judged for refusing to play teams above

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>their station? Is two years of greatness more important than

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:48.760
<v Speaker 1>prolonged success that comes from from schneids or Snid's on Twitter?

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>So what is your opinion of how UCF or any

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Boise State, Houston, Fresno, San Diego State teams

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that have shown an ability to beat high level Power

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>five teams, how they can make that leap under the

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>current system.

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Under the current system, I think.

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>No matter what, they're not going to be allowed in

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I really do.

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Under the current system, it's just hard. It's skewed against UCF.

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not so much arguing for UCF as a

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 2>M four, just this glaringly obvious situation that we're in

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 2>where it's tough for any group of five team to

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 2>break through.

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>There was a story this week that UCF turned down

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Florida's offer for a two to one to play two

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>games in Gainsville and one in Orlando, and everybody react

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to that like, well, it looks like they don't want

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to play with the big boys. Looks like they don't

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 1>want to prove themselves against the best and do what

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>it takes.

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Like we don't have context for.

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Any of that.

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 3>We don't know.

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what would happen if UCF scheduled

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the world If u CF scheduled Florida, and I think

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>they already have scheduled Stanford, and they scheduled I don't know,

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma State, really decent good whatever a mix of decent good.

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>They scheduled you know, Penn State or Michigan State. Not

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the top top top but really strong non conference they

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>would be number five. They would one hundred percent be

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:10.439
<v Speaker 1>number five at twelve and zero, beating Stanford, Oklahoma State,

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and Michigan State or Florida whatever. Because people would then say, well,

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 1>look the American is it's good, but it's not the

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Big twelve, it's not the Big ten. They would just

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 1>find another reason. That's all it's going to come down to.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.760
<v Speaker 2>This is, by the way, on brand one hundred percent

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 2>for Florida to try and schedule a non conference opponent

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>in the state of Florida.

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course they don't want to leave Florida. Why

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>would you no? No right now? But that's that was

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 1>like the reaction like, well, it looks like UCF doesn't know.

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>That's so that's such a like a straw man wasted argument.

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>So UCF probably needs to join a conference. Some conference

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:44.959
<v Speaker 1>needs to invite UCF, or some conference needs to invite

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Houston or Boise State or whoever, if they can prove

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>over time, because otherwise it's just they're going to find

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.760
<v Speaker 1>another reason. That's all it is, all right, next question,

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>next question. And I should also point out along these

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 1>same lines type because people are always saying well, like UCF,

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>they can't compete, or Houston can and compete. The difference

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:05.120
<v Speaker 1>in talent between a high, high level the best G

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>five team and a good maybe not Alabama Clemson, but

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a really good Power five team doesn't exist. No, because

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 1>those teams that are going eleven to one, twelve and

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>zero are doing so because it's a you know, a

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>conflation of developed talent transfers, really good coaching. And you look,

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you see in the NFL draft, all of a sudden,

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, some guy is from Houston. Fresno State. You know,

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 1>at Oliver is a name that jumps out. He could

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 1>have gone anywhere. But there's no difference in talent. You

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>look at those Boise State teams. They can beat anybody.

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>It's just they're in a different conference. That's all.

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 3>All right, Where are we going next?

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Next? Let's go to I love this question from our

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 1>new in person pal, Dan Klobishark.

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, clobh.

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>The Lowry's beef Ball. Lowry's a primary place all over

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>this country is a time honored Rose Bowl tradition, which

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>as background, they bring both teams that are in the

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Rose Bowl in to Lowries to eat as much beef

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>as they want and compare the poundage. What similar event

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>could either of you compete in and do relatively well

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever relative to a college football player. Oh man, what

0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>single food do you feel like you could hang with

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>your average I don't know, Michigan outside lineback. Pumpkin pie. Okay,

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>pumpkin pie. This is what I would do, because I

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's more of a mentality than it is a

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.320
<v Speaker 1>physical thing, which I think you're right in selecting pumpkin

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>pie for yourself. Yeah, if we could, just if there

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 1>could be an event where you stand around a room

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and just or nerves are passed around. There is something

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>about that experience that I could go for hours. Tie

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:45.680
<v Speaker 1>those little grilled cheese dippers, cocktail weenies, some nachos, quesadillas,

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, a wing or two. If that is the setup,

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm an endurance athlete. I wanted my

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>wedding to be all or dervs. Yeah, I would call

0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:00.360
<v Speaker 1>this event either you've been dervd or app state. I

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 1>would really make it a Upstate's pretty good. And it's

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>just that it's more of the forum to me than

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 1>it is the specific food. So if we could have

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.240
<v Speaker 1>bite sized or dirves passed around a room. I feel

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:14.440
<v Speaker 1>like I could hang with a big ten.

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 3>What's your what's your order of power rating?

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 1>What is my number one? If I saw it? You know,

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.240
<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm a taco guy, so there's sometimes mini tacos

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.879
<v Speaker 1>or tiktos with like a little guak dipper. Yeah, if

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I could, if you're like charring up caseity at triangles

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>with a little bowl of gualk, that would be my

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:37.240
<v Speaker 1>number one. Love a meatball, cocktail, WEENI with mustard tenders.

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>You see some tenders being passed or nuggies. I'm totally

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 1>in that mood all the time. So yeah, any anything

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 1>like in that zone. Egg rolls, egg rolls, spring rolls. Yeah,

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting so hungry I could I could do some

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>damage with punkin pie. Yeah really, So yours is more specific?

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Mind is more mood? Yeah, okay, where are we going next?

0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 1>All right?

0:48:57.920 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 2>This?

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay? So somebody asked the question for pure So it's eric,

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>what's the best Bowl game for pure entertainment value for

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 1>people who don't care about wins, points, weird schemes, offield shenanigans,

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Animals on the field. There's animals on the field, which

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I have a specific day actually December twenty eighth, I

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>think that's the day I was looking at. I still

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 1>have some scores on my schedule, skill.

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:26.240
<v Speaker 2>God, Perdue versus Auburn in the Music City Bowl, which

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I think actually is going to relate to another question

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 2>that I saw in here.

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>If we get to oh yeah, this is the day,

0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:31.960
<v Speaker 1>You're right, you nailed this.

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:37.239
<v Speaker 2>West Virginia Syracuse and Washington State Iowa State. Yes, those

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.839
<v Speaker 2>three games, all of which I think could go either way.

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 2>You should have a ton of points in West Virginia Syracuse,

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 2>hopefully without Will Grear, without Will Rallison's I still think

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 2>you'll have a lot of points. Washington State Iowa State's

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 2>going to be a fun game, Like I have no

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 2>confidence on which direction that one heads.

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>In a dome in Arnmanshew for sure playing Brock Party

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and Washington State could have been that disappointment team. But

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I really do think I think Washington State is going

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.319
<v Speaker 1>to perform well on a stage in which I think

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no other game that's going to be on that

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 1>everybody's gonna be watching the out ball on ESPN. So

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. I think that's a great, great

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:18.120
<v Speaker 1>slag and also Perdue Auburn. Someone else in here asked, us, Oh, here,

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it's mad. I see it.

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Which teams are at least motivated to be playing in

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:22.440
<v Speaker 3>their bowl game? I might.

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 2>I brought this up on the first Bowl preview show.

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:27.040
<v Speaker 2>But you can make a real good case for Auburn

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 2>against Perdue, and that would be a huge win for

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Perdue if they can knock off Auburn. They're not favored

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.760
<v Speaker 2>in that game, but I could see that one. You know, Auburn,

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 2>do they really want to play Perdue? Jared Stidham's declared

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:40.319
<v Speaker 2>for the draft, Like, there are some atmospherics going on

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 2>there that I could see working in Purdue's direction.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I would I would jump. I would lump Michigan in there,

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 1>a game away from winning the division, lost in the

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 1>fashion in which they did. I saw a completely flat

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Michigan team last year in I think it was the

0:50:55.560 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>outback ball against South Carolina and opponent wise playing Florida again,

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 1>there's just there's nothing novel or exciting about Florida Michigan

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>this year. So I would lump the Wolverines in there.

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 2>And don't forget about the New Era Demotivation Bowl between

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin and Miami.

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:15.400
<v Speaker 1>So at least they get to play in Yankee Stadium.

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>There's at least the New York destination involved, and that's

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:23.240
<v Speaker 1>interesting and weird, and you're going to a very different

0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>place than Miami or Madison, Wisconsin. But in terms of

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>how those two teams ended their.

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Season, we're just looking to get this over with, Doug.

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. I think that's right.

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 3>All right, where are we going next year?

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:39.200
<v Speaker 1>You're not heading to the Pinstripe BWL this year?

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 3>No, not going this year.

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 1>That's a shame. You still have your hat. I do

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>have my hat. It's downstairs. Let's go to Okay, we've

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:53.319
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of questions about playoff stuff. Ooh, I

0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>love this question. Yeah. Best name of a bowl that

0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>no longer exists? Oh, that's easy. What is it?

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:00.799
<v Speaker 3>Blue Bonnet Bowl?

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Dan, that's pretty good.

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:05.839
<v Speaker 2>It used to be called the Astro blue Bonnet Bowl,

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.919
<v Speaker 2>I believe when it was played in the Astrodome, the

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:10.280
<v Speaker 2>State Flower of Texas.

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I believe the blue Bonnet Okay. I was a big

0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:16.839
<v Speaker 1>fan of the Blockbuster Bowl, which might just have a

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 1>new name. Yeah.

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 3>I think that's now the Outback Bowl.

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>That could just be the Outback Bowl. But I specifically.

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Remember we used to go to Fort Lauderdale every winter

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and stay in I don't know, some hotel and I

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 1>think the game was it was either in Miami, Fort

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Lot or wherever in that area. And I remember staying

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 1>in the same hotel as like the marching band for

0:52:37.400 --> 0:52:39.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the teams. I was like, all right, I've

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:44.240
<v Speaker 1>made it. Yeah, this is the show. I always enjoyed

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the Copper Bowl, So maybe I'm just going with old

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>bowl names. I remember there used to be a Dixie Bowl,

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah there was? Was there there were two Minicky car

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Minucky car Care Bowls. Yeah, I think one in North

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte one and so it was like the Miynikee car

0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Care Bowl of.

0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Texas, I believe so.

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I always liked saying the San Diego Credit

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>San Diego County Credit Union Point Setia Bowl, right right.

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>That game was always weird too, Yeah, would it would

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:20.279
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it would be two G five schools would be

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 1>like TCU and Boise State were both top twenty. Wasn't

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>it playing on December twenty first? You remember the one

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 1>year Navy was in it and it was all flooded out,

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 1>completely flooded. Yeah, I love how much of a pos

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 1>that stadium still to this day is I've been to

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>at least two Holiday Bowls. The Oregon games against the

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma schools. I think it was a reht Bomar year

0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:47.319
<v Speaker 1>when or did not win. Whoa yeah, yeah, and it

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 1>was the Oklahoma state year was a. It was a

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 1>des year and that game was so damn fun. So

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 1>that is a fun game. The Holiday Bowl, which obviously

0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:00.400
<v Speaker 1>still exists, there was a battle Frog sponsorship yep at

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 1>one point.

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I want to say the Independence Bowl has had some

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:06.520
<v Speaker 2>really weird sponsors. Or they did the Duck Commander thing

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago. They had the pull in

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Weed Eater sponsorship before that. Yeah, they're searching for weird sponsors.

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I do like that there have been Bowl games in

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 1>cities that were selected for whatever reason. That just I

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 1>remember Oregon was in the Seattle Bowl. Yeah, and Seattle

0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 1>is a great place. I love my time in Seattle.

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>But if you're a Wake Forest fan, if you're a

0:54:34.040 --> 0:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota fan, if you're a you know, Florida State fan,

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you find out your team's going to Seattle in December,

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I have a good TV.

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:46.920
<v Speaker 2>It made no sense, all right, Uh, next topic, let's go.

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 3>We got two or three more questions here.

0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Select whatever I mean. If the soliverbo sponsored a bowl,

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>which two teams need to participate? Obviously it's the solid

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Ver Bowl, so it's Notame Oregon. Is there a backup

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:01.600
<v Speaker 1>common nation of teams that you would just like to

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 1>see play each other that traditionally will never play each other,

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:08.640
<v Speaker 1>but would be forced to not necessarily this year, or

0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 1>it could be this year. Sure, Texas, Texas, A and

0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 1>M could be fun. I would say, yeah, I would

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 1>if we could re you know, a West Virginia pit game,

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 1>a Kansas Missouri game, if Kansas were decent, if we

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>could rejoin a rivalry that has been snapped, Yeah, that

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 1>would be pretty ideal. That'd be great. What would happen

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 1>if a team with the elite talent ran the triple option? Oh?

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I like this question, Ty, what's your answer? Let's let's

0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>give it. Let's attack attach this to a Let's say

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:43.240
<v Speaker 1>ALBA eighteen elite talent team, not Alabama, but some say Michigan. Okay,

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Michigan's running the triple.

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Michigan's running the triple option.

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 1>So are you just stapling the triple option with this

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 1>year's team? Like they have Rashaan Gary and everybody else

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.920
<v Speaker 1>on defense already that's loaded in. Because that's that's the

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of problem with triple option teams and elite talent

0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:00.040
<v Speaker 1>is it's hard to attract you know, you guys, I

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:03.560
<v Speaker 1>want to practice against it all the time. And offensively,

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:06.359
<v Speaker 1>it's tough to find a quarterback who can throw when

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 1>needing to complete a pass when you're down five and

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:12.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing's happening on the ground late that's I mean, that's

0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that's why the triple option is great. To just bring

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>up your floor and bring up your ceiling, but it's

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 1>crashing through the ceiling to me is the issue.

0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 2>This is why the Wildcat didn't have a longer lifespan

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, right, you know, like it was cool

0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:32.400
<v Speaker 2>for a while and then teams figured it out and

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 2>it was like, Okay, no big deal anymore.

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Got to complete a pass, you got to give yourself

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:38.360
<v Speaker 1>options out of formations. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 1>not an option guy. I've never been. Yeah. I think

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 1>your Michigan season this year, with whoever running and maybe

0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Dylan McCaffrey is a little bit more mobile, I think

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:52.759
<v Speaker 1>it looks very similar that Michigan would hit that ten

0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.880
<v Speaker 1>and two ceiling something like that ten and two, eleven

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and one, nine and three. Like, I think your floor

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:02.640
<v Speaker 1>certainly is higher, but you do need to put string

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<v Speaker 1>together drives where you don't have a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to throw the ball down field, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you get into defensive recruiting issues. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that is you're still on the precipice of playoff, but

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<v Speaker 1>not quite breaking through.

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<v Speaker 2>Final question here, and I'm sending this one over to you,

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<v Speaker 2>big guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this one comes to us from Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>He says we invented a new holiday on New Year's

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<v Speaker 2>Day called dip a Palooza, the idea being that a

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<v Speaker 2>never ending parade of dips is perfect for Bowl watching.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your go to dips? Needs some new recipes

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty nineteen? Dan, What do you got so you

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<v Speaker 2>do something similar to this?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? For football competition? Food competition?

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<v Speaker 2>I do something called a Super Bowl right where it's

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<v Speaker 2>a soup off. Everyone cooks their favorite soup and then

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<v Speaker 2>you vote on your favorite suits. But that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>New Year's Day, right, But I do something similar.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have your soup chosen for twenty eighteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, might go with the one that you told me up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot as techa. I believe it's so as teca. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to help me cook that. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure I know how.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you'll be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Dip a palooza is a wonderful idea because it's it

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<v Speaker 1>gives you options, maybe a triple option enough. I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would home make some hummus, even Coca Cola is,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they're slandering hummus all season long and they're dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>dumb commercial, I would go hummus. I would go gualk.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like a red pepper type dip, like a

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<v Speaker 1>puade red pepper, and you could play around with humm

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<v Speaker 1>I if you so choose. Is that the plural form

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<v Speaker 1>of hummus? I would yeah, I mean I'm just making

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<v Speaker 1>that up. Yeah, I love a bean dip tie and

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<v Speaker 1>technically hummus is that, but like a multi layered bean dip,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can wreak havoc. You have you have to

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<v Speaker 1>choose your company wisely if you're going to go in

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<v Speaker 1>on a bean dip. Yeah, I would just really master

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<v Speaker 1>guak and I have I think I've said this before

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<v Speaker 1>My secret to guak is pea shoots. No, that was

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<v Speaker 1>like a New York Times awful thing. My secret is

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<v Speaker 1>I'll roast up a little bit of garlic because that

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<v Speaker 1>gives it a little bit of sweetness and body. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tear it apart into little bits, and so that rounds

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<v Speaker 1>out the acid and salt real nicely in aquak. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also chill the guak in a fridge before I

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<v Speaker 1>serve it. All right, do you have any dip ideas

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<v Speaker 1>that you get very excited? I like a tetsiki. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a warm peda option.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna make a taco dip tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, what's in it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not nearly as sophisticated as any of the more

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<v Speaker 2>gourmet options that I think you're discussing here. Mine just

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<v Speaker 2>entails mixing together some sour cream and cream cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, no, no, you mix it together. Yeah, mix

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<v Speaker 1>it together. My stomach is already reacting poorly.

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<v Speaker 2>You you layer the base of like a foil pan with that, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Then on top of it you get just any your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite kind of salsa port on top, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>get taco cheese, like two bags of that taco cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, and you sprinkle it on top, so are you

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<v Speaker 1>melting it? And now you're not melt it?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, you get it cold and then you

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<v Speaker 2>just get some scoops and and uh yeah, it's iuthentic Mexican.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a French onion dip, real easy. Nobody ever

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<v Speaker 1>hates on that. I think I saw some pre roll

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<v Speaker 1>before a YouTube video for like a pizza ranch dip

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<v Speaker 1>where they're a melting mozzarella over ranch and cream cheese

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<v Speaker 1>and putting pet I just it's not doing it for me, ty,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not doing it for me to any other

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<v Speaker 1>dips that you get excited about. Not much of a

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<v Speaker 1>dalsas a dip. He'll make a salsa.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not much of a dipper.

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<v Speaker 1>How is that possible?

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<v Speaker 2>Is?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my question fundamentally, is buffalo chicken dip an actual

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<v Speaker 1>dep or is it just stewed stewed chicken?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How much meat is? I feel like me, does it

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<v Speaker 1>take for it to go over the top? I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it isn't. I think that's I think it's good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's a dep I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a filling in a bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, we covered some ground here on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to everyone who wrote in with questions. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>do our best to answer more over the course of

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<v Speaker 2>the next days and weeks. Don't forget on Wednesday, gonna

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<v Speaker 2>preview some more Bowl games and do our best, hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of I guess next week to get

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<v Speaker 2>through all the Bowl games so that you're ready. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got some semblance of what's going to happen in these contests.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a bunch moving forward that we got to

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<v Speaker 2>get through. I'm looking at the list here, only made

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<v Speaker 2>a small dent in the totality of Bowl games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, that is coming at you here over the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>So by all means, please stay tuned to the verbal

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that you are updating your confidence pools accordingly,

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<v Speaker 2>sliding games around, mixing and matching, entering your winners. If

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<v Speaker 2>you decide to change your mind, I've already changed my

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<v Speaker 2>mind on a couple here. I'm about to just to

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<v Speaker 2>the course of recording here, so we'll be back on Wednesday. Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for waking up early with me here to record

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 3>For that go over there on.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful New York City for myself today a little bit, catch.

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<v Speaker 3>You all in a few days. Meantime, stay solid, Hi,