Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal coll that for me, I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 1: for day Edith State is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan
Speaker 1: and Tye.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My
Speaker 2: name is ty hilden Brand, joining me as always my
Speaker 2: man Dan or Rubinstein over there in New York City.
Speaker 2: But but but but but but but but Yeah, bright
Speaker 2: and early on a Sunday morning here, we don't have
Speaker 2: like any real, truly notable games that we want to
Speaker 2: get through, though we will run through what happened on
Speaker 2: the first Saturday of Bowl season. But just bright eyed,
Speaker 2: bushy tailed here up early, gonna previews some bulls and
Speaker 2: talk through some questions.
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 1: I love this time of year. Ty, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with you. And it's not necessarily just because it's
Speaker 1: the holidays, but you know it's cold and rainy outside.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch some football. I've got a candle going
Speaker 1: my pumpkins pumpkin pie spice candle roll. And I love
Speaker 1: this coziness, Ti, and that's why I'm excited to be
Speaker 1: sharing it with you and everybody.
Speaker 2: With you, and everybody indeed, well, thank you again to
Speaker 2: everyone for tuning in. This is going to go up
Speaker 2: on Sunday evening or so. We do have a couple
Speaker 2: other Bowl preview shows that we're going to trot out
Speaker 2: over the course of the next week week and a half.
Speaker 2: So if you haven't heard your team or your particular
Speaker 2: bowl yet, don't worry. We will get to it, we promise,
Speaker 2: and we'll have it out to you in time for
Speaker 2: your Christmas travels on the way to grandmother's house or
Speaker 2: wherever it may be your head at this holiday season.
Speaker 2: We're going to do our best to make sure that
Speaker 2: you're covered on the college football front.
Speaker 1: Yea, if you're going to Dubai, if you're going to Caracas, Venezuela,
Speaker 1: if you are going to the Changdong province. We got
Speaker 1: you loud and clear. So why don't we start here.
Speaker 2: Let's very quickly run through the bowl action from me yesterday.
Speaker 2: We're not going to deep dive this as we typically would,
Speaker 2: but just to make sure that we cover all of
Speaker 2: our bases, we had you toss State, winning by a
Speaker 2: fifty two to thirteen score. Mason Fine popped the hammy
Speaker 2: in that game in the first quarter, and things derailed
Speaker 2: rather quickly for the mean Green as you toss. State
Speaker 2: wins their eleventh game of the season to finish eleven
Speaker 2: to two.
Speaker 1: I was extremely wrong about that game, as was I
Speaker 1: I and you know what I actually went against and
Speaker 1: I we were making goofs about how we were picking
Speaker 1: games in the confidence pool, and I was goofing about
Speaker 1: buoyancy and coaches and stuff like that. But the actual
Speaker 1: way I picked this confidence pool that I put together
Speaker 1: is something I noticed last year, especially with these games
Speaker 1: early on, where this is something you talked about, like
Speaker 1: you want to figure out who cares more. You know
Speaker 1: where the motivation is. And so I look at my
Speaker 1: liked analytics, the points per drive defense metric, because defense
Speaker 1: is caring, motivation effort. And yesterday I went, I would
Speaker 1: have gone five for five if I took all of
Speaker 1: the points per drive defense, and I just there was
Speaker 1: something about Utah State. I was like, I just don't
Speaker 1: trust him, and I was wrong. Ty, I was wrong
Speaker 1: because everyone else is ever the better defenses across the
Speaker 1: board one on Saturday, I was.
Speaker 3: Very wrong as well. To that point.
Speaker 2: Tou Lane also knocked off Louisiana. Louisiana just couldn't stop
Speaker 2: tou Lane, at least in the first quarter. They tried
Speaker 2: to make it a game in the second half, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't meant to be. Forty one to twenty four
Speaker 2: was your final there. I took that one on the
Speaker 2: chin as well. Ooh, we had Fresno State living up
Speaker 2: to their billing, finishing twelve and two. A great year
Speaker 2: for Jeff Tedford. This went in the Las Vegas Bawl.
Speaker 2: They beat Arizona State by thirty one to twenty final score.
Speaker 1: Not great quarterback play, but both you know, Benjamin and
Speaker 1: Fresno States back I think his name was Rivers. You know,
Speaker 1: had a couple big long Ronnie Rivers, excuse me, a
Speaker 1: couple long runs. Really really cool to see Fresno State
Speaker 1: finish with an exclamation point.
Speaker 2: Georgia Southern and the Option finishes with a ten win
Speaker 2: season twenty three to twenty one in the Amelia Bowl,
Speaker 2: the knockoff Eastern Michigan.
Speaker 1: This is true, a wild Chamelia Ball. Last second field
Speaker 1: goal I believe to win this game and forty yarders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern gets to double digit wins. You know, a
Speaker 1: couple of years of not great football for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: culminating in a ten win season over Eastern Fantastic great job.
Speaker 2: And finally app State knocks off Middle Tennessee. This one
Speaker 2: was only three to nil in favor of Middle Tennessee
Speaker 2: after the first quarter, but that's when app State poured
Speaker 2: it on. They end up winning by a forty five
Speaker 2: to thirteen score. Eleven and two is the final mark for.
Speaker 1: You were in on the Blue Raiders. I wasn't no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Are you sure?
Speaker 2: I'm I'm convince you, I'm one hundred percent sure that
Speaker 2: I was app State because we remember we did this
Speaker 2: thing where it's like, you know my rule, if a
Speaker 2: coach is leaving, you think about going the other way
Speaker 2: unless it's a mismatch. And my point was that I
Speaker 2: thought this one was a pretty big mismatch in it
Speaker 2: eventually did play out there on the field.
Speaker 1: I never keep you. And because I do a show
Speaker 1: on ESPN plus Hey with Jeff Schwartz.
Speaker 3: We look very similar.
Speaker 1: There is something about you and Jeff Schwartz where it's
Speaker 1: just hard to tell you to a part just the
Speaker 1: physical presence of the two of you. It's forward NFL
Speaker 1: lineman and tiled and brand. Yeah, an up and down,
Speaker 1: weird game for the app State offense started slow, but
Speaker 1: bam did they pour it on. This one got out
Speaker 1: of hand quickly.
Speaker 2: I stood next to Jeff Schwartz one time at the
Speaker 2: Pisman and chatted with him for a while about the
Speaker 2: Giants and some other football things. Great, dude, I'm about
Speaker 2: the size of his upper thigh.
Speaker 1: I think we all are combined, all right.
Speaker 2: Well, we also have some I think if I'm looking
Speaker 2: at my she correct, we have some news. If I
Speaker 2: do the breaking news thing right now, I'll wake up
Speaker 2: my wife in the whisper.
Speaker 1: Just be like a very gentle breaking news, breaking news.
Speaker 1: Boo boo, boop boop. First of all, I know this
Speaker 1: is not what you're alluding to, But you do not
Speaker 1: just waltz into the Fargo Dome. No, you do not.
Speaker 1: I am sorry. It's the jack Rabbits, I believe of
Speaker 1: South Dakota State made it a game. There was some excitement,
Speaker 1: there was some fun. Somebody scored points in the Fargo Dome,
Speaker 1: which is new for rare the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Eastern Stick and the Bison put what forty
Speaker 1: four on South Dakota State and advance to Frisco to
Speaker 1: the national Championship, the FCS National Championship.
Speaker 2: I need a harder z though. If you're going to
Speaker 2: say bye byes, got to get.
Speaker 1: It right byes. And I think Eastern Eastern Washington on
Speaker 1: the red field, they just completely dominate the Black Bears
Speaker 1: of Maine. So that should be fun. Those are two
Speaker 1: superpowers on the FCS level meeting in Frisco. Hopefully we
Speaker 1: got a good game in three weeks something like that. Thanks.
Speaker 1: And I believe Valdosta State is your D two champion. Okay,
Speaker 1: I saw that, so my gosh. Yeah, they in a
Speaker 1: crazy shootout over Farris State. So fun things happen at
Speaker 1: all levels, all right.
Speaker 2: So on that note, Yeah, awkward segue to talk about
Speaker 2: DJ Durkin, who has been named an advisor at Yama,
Speaker 2: kind of falling in the footsteps of other coaches who
Speaker 2: have lost their jobs for one reason or another.
Speaker 3: They're looking for a new gig.
Speaker 2: They end up signing on to that Nick Saban coaching
Speaker 2: tree slash coaching machine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's not hired. This is not a he's
Speaker 1: not even an analyst. He's coming into it's a weird look.
Speaker 1: For sure. He's coming in to advise and help ahead
Speaker 1: of the playoff. This is nothing new that Nick Saban
Speaker 1: has done. Even at this time. I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: Rich Rodriguez has done some work there. So they've had
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive guys come in and take a look
Speaker 1: at film with them. So it's again a weird look
Speaker 1: timing wise, But I guess that he's not an employee
Speaker 1: and he's not a full time guy, and somebody's going
Speaker 1: to hire DJ Durkin for some role like this eventually.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be prosecuted. So it
Speaker 1: is just one of those things that it's better to
Speaker 1: just make peace with, as strange as it may seem
Speaker 1: upon first glance.
Speaker 3: It's like when Kramer started going to work at Leland.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly.
Speaker 2: Brief, kid, Just crackers, okay, Ye, app State we mentioned
Speaker 2: them a few minutes ago hired Eli Drinkwitz, Yes off
Speaker 2: the Gus Malzon off, the Brian Harson, the Dave Duran
Speaker 2: coaching tree. Eli was with I believe n C State
Speaker 2: last couple of years as offensive coordinator, and so now
Speaker 2: they're bringing in someone who's relatively local to the position
Speaker 2: and congratulations to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's from Arkansas, but it's been all over.
Speaker 1: He was at Arkansas State with Gus and Brian Harson,
Speaker 1: followed him to Poise and then of course got the
Speaker 1: job with Dave Doran at NC State. So obviously when
Speaker 1: you look at some of the players developed at MC
Speaker 1: state's great job throughout the years. Cool hire, We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens, young guy like thirty five.
Speaker 2: Thirty five, Okay, we got a new head coach at
Speaker 2: Akron tom Arth from UT Chattanooga.
Speaker 3: Uh what else here?
Speaker 2: We've got a new coordinator on the defensive side for
Speaker 2: Miami Dan, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Co coordinators, the safety's coach, and I believe the outside
Speaker 1: linebackers coach replacing Manny Diaz. So it takes two men
Speaker 1: to replace everything that Manny Diaz did for Miami. So
Speaker 1: continuity there. Obviously, it's going to help with recruiting that
Speaker 1: somebody isn't brought in last second. And I think both
Speaker 1: of those guys that they've hired are are promoted, are
Speaker 1: pretty well regarded with in the program.
Speaker 2: And some other coordinator hires here or promotions, what have you.
Speaker 2: Tyson Summers is going to be the Colorado defensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: has some familiarity with Colorado State, of course and some
Speaker 2: of his previous work. We've got Nate Woody who's going
Speaker 2: to be the Army defensive coordinator. And my boy, Mike Sandford, Yeah,
Speaker 2: didn't work out at Western Kentucky, but he is going
Speaker 2: to Utah State as the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Was wondering where he was going to end up. Smaller
Speaker 1: than I would have thought as a destination. Utah State
Speaker 1: because is super well regarded on the West Coast as
Speaker 1: a coordinator Stanford, Boise State, and at Notre Dame. You
Speaker 1: were a fan of his, even though the four and
Speaker 1: eight season I don't think was a reflection on him necessarily,
Speaker 1: but young dude so pretty well regarded and we'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see what his career path looks like. And
Speaker 1: you mentioned Tyson Summers. Should also mention the last time
Speaker 1: he was a defensive coordinator. That would have been twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen for UCF. That defense, that was the last year
Speaker 1: Georgia Leary cared for reference that UCF defense. That night
Speaker 1: defense was amazing. Yeah, that was the Griffin brothers. Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah right, that was a really really good defense. So
Speaker 1: hopefully that means good things because the head coaching role
Speaker 1: did not work out from a Georgia Southern for the Buffaloes.
Speaker 1: So interesting to say.
Speaker 3: So here is the way the rest of this show
Speaker 3: is going to go.
Speaker 1: Dan, Let's do it, Dane.
Speaker 3: The Week Full disclosure.
Speaker 2: I did not have a chance to make a new
Speaker 2: Bowl sound, but I will have one in time for Wednesday,
Speaker 2: I promise you.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got one cooking up in the lab right now.
Speaker 1: I did. I did make a joke to you. We
Speaker 1: were texting about this show and I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, from now on, I'm gonna give a Bowl
Speaker 1: Bowl update. Didn't get hurt Bowl previews and I immediately
Speaker 1: I think he hurt his foot pretty badly, and I
Speaker 1: am bummed out y.
Speaker 2: All right, well, okay, we've got a lighter slate of
Speaker 2: games here. We're only gonna do six games because we
Speaker 2: did a bunch on our last show. We're way out
Speaker 2: over our skis at this point, so we've got plenty
Speaker 2: of runway. Hopefully you got in on the confidence pool.
Speaker 2: You made your picks. The good news about the way
Speaker 2: that they set up the confidence pool is okay, you've
Speaker 2: got some games that are locked in now that you
Speaker 2: can't change, but the other ones you can still move
Speaker 2: them around. I believe you can still change who you
Speaker 2: think is gonna win or lose. So we're gonna do
Speaker 2: our best to stay on top of all of that action.
Speaker 2: But again, because we got so far out in front
Speaker 2: last show, we're only gonna do six today and then
Speaker 2: we're gonna, I think, have some time at the end
Speaker 2: for questions.
Speaker 3: These solicited questions.
Speaker 1: Yes, we had a bunch of them, so early bowl
Speaker 1: season you can ask about whatever you want bowl wise,
Speaker 1: is what I told people. We got some food questions,
Speaker 1: as you know, people are going to be hosting others
Speaker 1: around this time of year, but mostly Bowl and football questions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got good ones.
Speaker 2: So let's start with the bulls and let's go to
Speaker 2: the Bahamas Bowl. Let's the Makers Wanted Bahamas bull Dan.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to the Bahamas? I have not.
Speaker 1: I have been to the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: Actually, like bring break in two thousand and three or
Speaker 2: two thousand and two somewhere.
Speaker 1: Let that go for you.
Speaker 3: It was interesting.
Speaker 2: I watched a guy do a cannon ball into a
Speaker 2: hot tub and crack his head open.
Speaker 1: I looked up Makers Wanted and all that comes up
Speaker 1: is the Bahamas Bowl. Like there's no, there's the Elk
Speaker 1: Grove Business Elk Grove Village Business Park. They make it.
Speaker 1: I don't want sure, are they? I?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I guess it's a business park that is sponsoring the
Speaker 1: Bahamas Bowl. So if you have w one hundred bucks,
Speaker 1: if your name is Devin and you want to sponsor
Speaker 1: a bowl, it can be the Devin Bowl Offshore.
Speaker 3: Sure makers want it. Okay.
Speaker 2: Thomas Robinson Stadium in Nasau cool place for a game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: especially if you're Toledo. We've got this. Used to be
Speaker 2: the what chick fil A Bowl? I believe Chick fil
Speaker 2: A Bowl? No, they still got a Chick fil A Bowl.
Speaker 1: No, no, but I think, oh no, I think they
Speaker 1: serve what was not the chick fil A Bahamas Bowl.
Speaker 3: The Popeyes Bahamas Bull always Popeyes.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, excuse me? Yes, all right.
Speaker 2: Friday twelve twenty one on ESPN, it is FIU at
Speaker 2: eight and four, squaring off against the Toledo Rockets at
Speaker 2: seven and six. Toledo currently a six point favorite. They
Speaker 2: get a gift suite, a Yetti rambler, a string backpack,
Speaker 2: board shorts, a towel, and a pin seems reasonable enough.
Speaker 1: I will say this. I'm not gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: promote YETI they're not paying to promote YETI happened to
Speaker 1: have one because it was a Bowld gift of our
Speaker 1: own when we went to the National championship what last year,
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: If you can find yourself a rambler, I guess that's
Speaker 1: what this type of drinking apparatus is called. They're great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go and find it, like a knockoff one whatever on
Speaker 1: Amazon or wherever these fine goods are sold. They're wonderful.
Speaker 1: They fit in your car holder, correct, Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I would highly recommend. They're like a stainless steel that's insulated.
Speaker 1: Go wild. I'm all about hydration, ty, you know that.
Speaker 2: So look, I'm not enamored with either team here, but
Speaker 2: I am far less enamored with Toledo's defense and any
Speaker 2: other unit on the field. They gave up thirty eight
Speaker 2: points to Northern Illinois towards the end of the year,
Speaker 2: which is a statement in the wrong kind of statement.
Speaker 2: These guys gave up a lot of points this year,
Speaker 2: except against the Mighty Ball State Cardinals, who gave me
Speaker 2: their name A fight throw that out there.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the fi U offense. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go.
Speaker 3: With captain James Morgan.
Speaker 2: He set a school record at twenty six touchdown passes,
Speaker 2: which Jones is coaching the Panthers these days.
Speaker 3: I'm not at all confident here. I don't have a
Speaker 3: good read for this one.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say f IU, even though they're a dog,
Speaker 2: I like them outright, but only about eleven ish confidence points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no real bad losses for FYU. I would say
Speaker 1: they lose to Indiana, they lose at Miami, and they
Speaker 1: were competitive enough in that game. They finished the season
Speaker 1: winning six of eight. James Morgan's fine, a little sloppy
Speaker 1: with the ball, but yeah, they generate big plays and
Speaker 1: their defense is not a wreck. So yeah, moving on
Speaker 1: the confidence points? Are you eleven but they're at eleven eleven? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have let me let me load it up real quick.
Speaker 1: Where is my confidence pool? Whatever? We'll get back to it.
Speaker 2: Famous Idaho Potato Bowl in Albertson Stadium in Boise. We've
Speaker 2: got Western Michigan at seven and five against BYU at
Speaker 2: six and six. BYU actually out a thirteen point favorite here,
Speaker 2: Dan when we last left our heroes, the Cougars. They
Speaker 2: gave away a twenty point lead in the Holy War
Speaker 2: Holy close out their season, and you could probably make
Speaker 2: a strong case that that Holy War against Utah was
Speaker 2: their de facto national championship.
Speaker 3: So my question to you.
Speaker 2: Is will be why you be motivated to take home
Speaker 2: all the potatoes at the famous Sidahoe Potato ble Well.
Speaker 1: They're going to be well hydrated because they are given
Speaker 1: hydro flasks, which I believe is what is that? It's
Speaker 1: it's like a drink holder, similar to a rambler. I
Speaker 1: guess it's a plastic type drink holder. Oakley backpack, Beanie,
Speaker 1: nothing crazy. I'm going to byu here because of their defense.
Speaker 1: They are just they do not allow bigger plays and
Speaker 1: they are in that way a boa constrictor or in
Speaker 1: this case a by you constricted. No, yes, that's okay,
Speaker 1: it's early, all right, thank you very much. My biggest
Speaker 1: recommend I am going to byu here. My biggest recommendation
Speaker 1: is go to that. I think it's called the Hawkins
Speaker 1: pack out. It's a burger shack that's been around since
Speaker 1: the fifties or sixties and boise. Notice the pronunciation it's
Speaker 1: really good. I love a good old burger shack. That's
Speaker 1: my recommendation for this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to overlook the fact that Western
Speaker 2: beat Northern Illinois at the end of the year. And
Speaker 2: I know I just crapped on Northern Illinois offense, but
Speaker 2: it's still a pretty good win for them. Yes, I
Speaker 2: don't think i'd want to go points here BYU minus thirteen,
Speaker 2: but I think BYU wins and I'm pretty confident in that.
Speaker 2: I'd say around thirty confidence points for me, I'm at
Speaker 2: thirty six.
Speaker 1: TI wow, Okay, thirty six, so we sort of agree.
Speaker 1: We sort of agree. And I did take Elliott's. So
Speaker 1: I had Georgia Southern at thirty one, I had North
Speaker 1: Carolina A and T at thirty two, and I had
Speaker 1: Fresno State at thirty four. It looks like, yeah, telling
Speaker 1: you get those points to get him early. Yep. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I had Louisiana.
Speaker 2: Very high and that didn't work. Yeah, rough, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: also had who else did I have? I had someone
Speaker 2: else in there that lost very high online?
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: The Jared Birmingham Bowl, Yes, at Legion Field in Birmingham.
Speaker 2: It's on ESPN on Saturday. The twenty second. It's between
Speaker 2: Memphis at eight and five and wake Forest at six
Speaker 2: and six. Currently, the Tigers are a three and a
Speaker 2: half point favorite. In this game, the participants will get
Speaker 2: a gift suite, an Oakley backpack, or sunglasses.
Speaker 3: I think I'd go backpack. I think so too.
Speaker 1: You get a cooling hoodie whatever.
Speaker 2: That is no disrespect to bit Roberts though, no no, no, no,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and a football.
Speaker 1: So again, another one where the gift suite's doing a
Speaker 1: lot of heavy lifting. But listen, if you are Liz,
Speaker 1: a Memphis or Wake Forest player, and you are in
Speaker 1: either of those areas over the summer, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: a cooling hoodie sounds incredible.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Okay, I'm with it. Okay, So I'm gonna put
Speaker 2: five points in this game. I have zero feel for
Speaker 2: which direction this one's headed. It feels to me like
Speaker 2: Memphis is the better team. I know they've got a
Speaker 2: better offense. I think Bill Connolly ranks them something like
Speaker 2: fifty spots higher in the S and P plus. But
Speaker 2: you look at Wake season. Their worst loss was FSU,
Speaker 2: which isn't a great loss, mind you, but the rest
Speaker 2: were Notre Dame Clemson, Boston College, Syracuse, etc.
Speaker 1: Etc.
Speaker 2: They actually beat NC State and Duke in the final
Speaker 2: month of the season. So I can't tell if this
Speaker 2: is a WAKE team that is more a victim of
Speaker 2: a pretty tough schedule, or if it's a Wake team
Speaker 2: that's inconsistent enough to have trouble here with Memphis. I
Speaker 2: am gonna go with my gut and say Memphis, but
Speaker 2: like five points, five confidence points. Wouldn't want to touch
Speaker 2: the point spread here because it just it feels like
Speaker 2: this one could go either way.
Speaker 1: Big issue for Memphis or big three issues there without
Speaker 1: their offensive defensive coordinators who both got new jobs. Kenny
Speaker 1: Dillingham is the offensive coordinator. He goes to Auburn. Northern
Speaker 1: Arizona hired Memphis defensive coordinator for their head coaching job.
Speaker 1: Darrell Henderson, who maybe one of the best three running
Speaker 1: backs in the country not playing in this game, So
Speaker 1: I mean that's going pro. So I still am gonna
Speaker 1: go Memphis because the defense. If I'm going to lock
Speaker 1: in my points per drive metric as an indicator for
Speaker 1: bowl games and effort motivation, blah blah blah, there's something
Speaker 1: still to me a little bit more consistent about Memphis
Speaker 1: even without all of that, than there is to me
Speaker 1: about wake Who. Yes, as you mentioned, they were flip
Speaker 1: flopping every week, losing to the Florida State team the
Speaker 1: way that they do this year's Florida State team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and then going to NC State. Obviously winning
Speaker 1: is strange. Killing Duke strange, but I'm going with consistency
Speaker 1: and motivation. Here a side note, or actually two side
Speaker 1: notes with this game. One Jared Birmingham name of a
Speaker 1: country singer, and the side note about him when you
Speaker 1: look him up, he will haunt your dreams. Oh number two,
Speaker 1: This is Jared as in The Jeweler, The Jeweler. Have
Speaker 1: we ever seen a picture of this Jared? I have
Speaker 1: not seen the Jared, but the not great commercials of
Speaker 1: Jared the Jeweler, combined with the fact that Jared is
Speaker 1: secretly one of the most relatively recent awful names because
Speaker 1: of the Subway guy. I looked up the popularity of
Speaker 1: the name Jared since twenty fifteen time it has taken
Speaker 1: a nose dug two hundreds to four hundreds. It has
Speaker 1: completely fallen off the map. So this is not great
Speaker 1: for the Birmingham Bull. But I have Memphis here with
Speaker 1: a good amount of confidence. I believe I have Memphis
Speaker 1: with Oh my gosh, this is my most confident I
Speaker 1: might have to change forty one points for Memphis. Let's
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm changing the wake Forest.
Speaker 2: You talked me out of Memphis, just as you put
Speaker 2: all your confidence points on that with.
Speaker 1: The coordinators and Darrel Henderson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be a hypocrite if I didn't go
Speaker 2: Wake Forest here, because again, it's not so big of
Speaker 2: a mismatch that Memphis, I think would would rule supreme
Speaker 2: here in light of arrackles of the circumstances. So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go Wake here. I'm gonna change it. But I'm
Speaker 2: sick stick with five confidence points, not at all. I
Speaker 2: might adjust my confidence here, Okay. The Lockheed Martin Armed
Speaker 2: Forces Bowl they played at M. G. Carter Stadium in
Speaker 2: Fort Worth, Texas. It's also on Saturday the twenty second
Speaker 2: on ESPN. It's a clash between Houston at eight and
Speaker 2: four and the Army Knights at ten and two. A
Speaker 2: great year for Army. They are a three and a
Speaker 2: half point favorite in this game. Dan they get a
Speaker 2: gift suite, a Bluetooth speaker, helmet.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and football. It sounds like what Sports Illustrated
Speaker 1: would be giving away in the twenteen ninety six if
Speaker 1: the head of bowl game, Army will be without Jay Bateman,
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. I don't believe he will be coaching
Speaker 1: in this game. He is the new defensive coordinator at
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Houston certainly still without Derek King, their starting
Speaker 1: quarterback who went down and believed with a meniscus tear
Speaker 1: late in the season, but Houston still able to move
Speaker 1: the ball. I'm going to go Army here again because
Speaker 1: of the defense. Houston's defense was a mess this year.
Speaker 1: They fire their defensive coordinator pretty late in the process
Speaker 1: of the season. So I am still going with Army
Speaker 1: to control this game in Fort Worth, even though Houston
Speaker 1: has what appears to be will have more traveling fans.
Speaker 1: And I will add this tie because I know you
Speaker 1: care just immensely. Las Superior for Tacos in the greater
Speaker 1: Fort Worth area. It is a tortilla factory at Tortilla
Speaker 1: Bakery at for Ti area that also makes their own tacos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all in on Army here. Not only is
Speaker 2: the Eric King out, but Ed Oliver is not playing
Speaker 2: for the Cougars, and keep in mind that they also
Speaker 2: canned their defensive coordinator fairly recently. They're just a lot
Speaker 2: going on here for Houston on the defensive side of
Speaker 2: the ball. Not good stuff, and I don't think that's
Speaker 2: a great formula against a team like Army, which runs
Speaker 2: the option really effectively. They're a disciplined team. They hold
Speaker 2: the ball for thirty nine minutes. If you don't know
Speaker 2: about Kelvin Hopkins or Darnell Wolfork, look them up. See
Speaker 2: what they've been up to all season. It's been really impressive.
Speaker 2: And you mentioned the Army defense, which has been pretty
Speaker 2: good all seasons. So I think they continue that trend.
Speaker 2: I don't think motivation's an issue for Army. I like
Speaker 2: them to the tune of twenty nine confidence points done.
Speaker 1: All right, moving on, we agree.
Speaker 2: The Dollar General Ball at lad People Stadium in Mobile, Alabama,
Speaker 2: also on Saturday, the twenti second, also on ESPN, Buffalo
Speaker 2: at ten to three is two and a half point
Speaker 2: favorite over the Troy Trojans at nine and three. In
Speaker 2: this one, Daniel, they get this, listen to this. This
Speaker 2: is very very This here, I think is the sleeper pick. Okay,
Speaker 2: a Yamaha sound bar with built in subwolfer Ooh tasty.
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up right now.
Speaker 2: I could sink my teeth into a Yamaha sound bar
Speaker 2: right about now.
Speaker 1: Oh this looks great. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: it compares to others, but for just playing in a
Speaker 1: game and getting it for walking through the door. Wonderful gift.
Speaker 2: Also say hello to our old friends over at the
Speaker 2: time we watch Company Dan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this will be a custom if I am reading
Speaker 1: this correctly, A custom dollar General Bowl watch. So okay,
Speaker 1: if that's something you feel like wearing all the time,
Speaker 1: good for you. Maui Jim sunglasses and a Wilson game ball.
Speaker 1: Not the worst soundbar, probably taking up the budget, but
Speaker 1: there are worse things to get, and especially for Troy,
Speaker 1: which I think is like two hours away from Mobile,
Speaker 1: so de facto home game, pretty far away from Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I actually liked the Trojans here because of their defense,
Speaker 1: stepping up in a year where they had to replace
Speaker 1: a lot on offense. I thought Neil Brown did a
Speaker 1: terrific job, and as much as I enjoyed the Buffalo story,
Speaker 1: I think the disappointment we talk about motivated teams. Buffalo
Speaker 1: like a play and a half away from winning the
Speaker 1: MAC and now they're in the They're in lad Peebles
Speaker 1: and playing in the Dollar General Bowl. I like Troy
Speaker 1: here by a good amount, so I have a confidence
Speaker 1: level for the Trojans. Let's verify this. Twenty six points?
Speaker 1: Wow wow, I feel good about it. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like Troy a lot. I am going to go Troy
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: I've got a dilemma here between Buffalo and their offense,
Speaker 2: which was one of the best stories all year, and
Speaker 2: Neil Brown, who's a great young coach, as you said,
Speaker 2: de facto home game. He's going for his third straight
Speaker 2: season with ten or more wins. He's two in bowl games.
Speaker 2: Just just a little bit more on that side of
Speaker 2: the coin. To kind of sway me here, I'll say, Troy,
Speaker 2: I'm not as confident as you give me, like fifteen
Speaker 2: confidence points. Okay, we sort of and our final game
Speaker 2: before we tackle some questions the Sofi Hawaii Bowl?
Speaker 3: What is so Fi?
Speaker 1: Dan?
Speaker 3: Can you look that up?
Speaker 1: Isn't that an investment something? An investment something, isn't it?
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, great rates, great benefits is what
Speaker 1: they are. Claiming to be. It's an online personal finance
Speaker 1: company that provides student loan refinancing, mortgages, and personal loans.
Speaker 1: This is not an endorsement. Do a ton of research
Speaker 1: if you need something like this, because you don't want
Speaker 1: to be underinformed.
Speaker 2: So fi Hawaii Bowl at a Loha Stadium in Honolulu, Hawaii,
Speaker 2: also on Saturday the twenty second, also on ESPN. It
Speaker 2: is between Hawaii at eight and five and Louisiana Tech
Speaker 2: at seven and five.
Speaker 1: This one's a pick them, so you pick your favorite.
Speaker 3: Listen to this.
Speaker 1: Get a load of this.
Speaker 2: Dan ooh Li man an electronics gift sweet.
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued.
Speaker 3: It's just gift sweet, is what they say.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a room full of composite cables. Who RCA. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They also get an Oakley backpack, Oakley sunglasses, a Tory
Speaker 2: Richard Aloha shirt, shorts and swim trunks, a performance T shirt,
Speaker 2: and a beach towel.
Speaker 3: Seems like a nice little loot there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, I'm totally for this Hawaii Bowl gift suite.
Speaker 1: The electronics thing. You got your sunglasses, you're in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: You get your backpack, you get your swim trunks, you
Speaker 1: get a beach towel, which I think is a thorough
Speaker 1: way of thinking about it. And this is something we
Speaker 1: bring up or I bring up every year. I can
Speaker 1: only speak for myself, but I am inching closer to
Speaker 1: becoming a Hawaiian shirt guy. Really no, printed, not full time,
Speaker 1: not all the time, but in terms of invited to barbecue, cookout,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it over the summer, the printed,
Speaker 1: lighter weight, button up shirt tie. Yeah. Who am I
Speaker 1: trying to impress at this point? WHOA? I want comfort?
Speaker 1: And so I'm going in this direction. Are you going
Speaker 1: to go mustache too? If I could, I would seasonally
Speaker 1: grow a mustache, for sure. Wow. Yeah, but it just
Speaker 1: does not. I can grow facial hair, I can grow
Speaker 1: the scruff that I have, but the mustache does not
Speaker 1: come in as full as I'd like to make that
Speaker 1: a part of my at least part time identity.
Speaker 2: See, if I let it go for like two and
Speaker 2: a half weeks, I'd be like super Mario. I could
Speaker 2: go and I can have the whole push broom thing
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: If I really I've seen your mustache, I would not
Speaker 1: make that comparison. You haven't seen it fully grown out well?
Speaker 1: Improve it. Ty, you can't all be can't be all
Speaker 1: talk even though this is an audio podcast. Let's do
Speaker 1: something for the people.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Let's make up. Let's make later on. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's a Notre dame prop that we need to
Speaker 1: make a mustache bet. Yeah, I mean, I'll grow it
Speaker 1: for whatever allotted amount of time we agree on and
Speaker 1: we can compare.
Speaker 2: Much to the chagrin of I need to think about this.
Speaker 2: This could have ramifications.
Speaker 1: Let's find a game. We've previewed how many games as
Speaker 1: far twelve fourteen, something like that. Yeah, let's find a
Speaker 1: game in the back half where we find something that
Speaker 1: we dramatically disagree on, and we'll go from there. Aside
Speaker 1: from that, though, because I'm not now that intrigued by
Speaker 1: Hawaii Louisiana Attack, I think I'm taking Louisiana Attack. What
Speaker 1: single cable or wire if this electronics gift suite we
Speaker 1: joke about composite, What single cable or wire in this suite?
Speaker 1: If it were only this cable or wire would you
Speaker 1: be most excited to walk in and see that you
Speaker 1: could load up on?
Speaker 2: I would say probably like a twenty five foot lightning
Speaker 2: charging cable.
Speaker 1: Oh, that would be incredible. Charge your from wherever.
Speaker 2: Twenty five thirty feet more of that, like braided texture
Speaker 2: on the outside, so it's not going to break.
Speaker 3: Yep, you've got one in your apartment.
Speaker 1: Actually, you have got one right next to my couch
Speaker 1: that can go anywhere on the couch. Yep, it's a
Speaker 1: braided I don't remember what brand. I'm not giving them
Speaker 1: a free plug, but it's amazing, it's incredible. I think
Speaker 1: that's the right answer. Yeah, okay, high quality braided lightning,
Speaker 1: all right. I like Cole McDonald.
Speaker 2: He's the Hawaii quarterback, provided he can stay clear of
Speaker 2: Jalen Ferguson. He is the so called sack daddy Dan.
Speaker 2: He is indeed the sack daddy. He's got fifteen sacks
Speaker 2: this season. He's got forty four and a half in
Speaker 2: his career. I think the Hawaii offense overpowers Louisiana Tech,
Speaker 2: but beware because Louisiana tack's won four straight bowl games.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Hawaii here. You're going out right, outright
Speaker 2: twenty confidence points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hawaii's defense is dreadful, and I know it's a
Speaker 1: home game for the Warriors. Are they back to the
Speaker 1: Rainbow Warriors. I'm not sure, purposely not saying it because
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. I am going to go Louisiana tach
Speaker 1: here because I mean, their their defense is at least
Speaker 1: pretty good, even though their offense is sort of a mess.
Speaker 1: I lie, like, what's it's sack Daddy, Sack.
Speaker 3: Daddy Jalen Ferguson.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going with I'm going with Ferguson as a
Speaker 1: game changer. I assume he's playing, because why wouldn't he.
Speaker 1: I'm going with Louisiana Tech. We doesn't wait.
Speaker 3: Okay, more Bowl games will be forthcoming, we promise. Yep uh.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned to our show a little bit later on
Speaker 2: this week, where we'll dive into some others. But in
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Speaker 2: bit of extra time, because we knew that this was
Speaker 2: going to be a very early recording time, we decided
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Speaker 2: solicited them late last night or early this morning.
Speaker 3: What do we got.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of emails since our last show
Speaker 1: where we talked about going to eight teams for the playoff.
Speaker 1: Everybody has. The funny thing about people's playoff thoughts is
Speaker 1: there are only like seven teams realistically have a shot
Speaker 1: to get in the playoff every year, nine teams whatever.
Speaker 1: But everybody has thoughts on the playoffs. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: where it should be going. And I appreciate that. I
Speaker 1: love the passion that people have.
Speaker 2: And let me let me jump in for a second,
Speaker 2: because I erroneously drew reference to the old Dan Wetzel
Speaker 2: playoff plan. Oh updated, Yeah, he updated it. I hadn't
Speaker 2: seen it. Somebody in a stute for Baller pointed it out.
Speaker 1: But you could still prefer that. That's fine.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that plan.
Speaker 2: But Dan has since updated his plan and he's basically
Speaker 2: saying now that there's there's no need to go to
Speaker 2: sixteen if we can be smarter about how we utilize
Speaker 2: the conference championships.
Speaker 1: So he is now, but he wanted he wanted to.
Speaker 1: He wants to utilize them as like quarter final games
Speaker 1: and not actually play conference championships, right.
Speaker 2: Is essentially yeah, in a weird like hybrid way. But
Speaker 2: he's advocating for eight teams now in the playoff, and
Speaker 2: I would advise everyone go read what he has to
Speaker 2: say on the matter because it's always very well thought
Speaker 2: out and very well informed. And you know, we've had
Speaker 2: Dan on the show countless time, so I like his
Speaker 2: line of thinking. Be it eight, be a sixteen teams,
Speaker 2: But I just I needed to make sure I got
Speaker 2: that on the record that he did in fact update
Speaker 2: his official plan at this point.
Speaker 1: Have you updated your thought about whether or not the
Speaker 1: playoffs should be an event like an unto itself event
Speaker 1: or a national champion finder?
Speaker 2: First and foremost, see, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: So basically I don't know what you said it on
Speaker 2: the show and when I went back and I edited it. Sure,
Speaker 2: you're a very smart man, mind you, sometimes I'm not
Speaker 2: smart enough to understand what you mean by that.
Speaker 1: So, like the NC DOUBLEA tournament is an event that
Speaker 1: happens to find a national champion at the end, right, correct,
Speaker 1: You're not necessarily watching the NC doublea tournament because you
Speaker 1: want to find the best team, because a team can
Speaker 1: get hot and beat what we perceive by whatever metric
Speaker 1: and whatever schedule and resume to be the best team. Okay,
Speaker 1: The idea is that it's not a national championship event
Speaker 1: as much as it is, you know, a whittling down
Speaker 1: and there are upsets, and there are crazy moments, and
Speaker 1: there are cool stories and narratives, and so the bigger
Speaker 1: the playoff gets, the more in the direction of we're
Speaker 1: not just doing this to find a national would.
Speaker 2: You But would you say the same thing about the
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs or the NFL playoffs or the baseball playoffs?
Speaker 1: I would say no, not with series based. I would
Speaker 1: say that with the NFL playoffs for sure, like it's
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl stands apart to me from the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 1: Like people watch the NFL playoffs even though if they
Speaker 1: know if they're this team or that team doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: have a chance, but they want to watch a high
Speaker 1: level game between two good teams. But in watching a
Speaker 1: series thing is different watching MLB or NBA or hockey,
Speaker 1: I think is definitely no.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not smart enough to understand this
Speaker 2: logic now for me.
Speaker 1: Like here here, here would be an example. So in
Speaker 1: an eighteen playoff this year, who would well Notre Dame
Speaker 1: ended up as the three seed? Yep, right, who would
Speaker 1: Notre Dame end up playing in the first round and
Speaker 1: they would play who whoever the sixth seed is? The
Speaker 1: sixth seed is. So in this case, it would be
Speaker 1: what Ohio State? Sure would you watch? If I should
Speaker 1: answer this question, thinking Ohio State and Notre Dame are
Speaker 1: probably flawed to flawed to beat Alabama or maybe Clemson,
Speaker 1: would I still watch this game because I get a
Speaker 1: high level experience one hundred percent? Right, to me, it
Speaker 1: feels like that's not necessarily winnowing down, whittling down, excuse me,
Speaker 1: to a national champion. But at the same time, it's like,
Speaker 1: this is a cool thing that we have as a
Speaker 1: result of these resumes and teams, Like I'm excited for
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl And if that were a playoff, a
Speaker 1: sixteen team playoff matchup between Ohio State and Washington, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, this is cool. I get Washington secondary against
Speaker 1: Ohio State's offense and Dwayne Haskins maybe his last game.
Speaker 1: There is something about being a part of an event,
Speaker 1: even though we're not realistically thinking this is a true
Speaker 1: national championship.
Speaker 2: Finder it's hard for me to decouple the playoff experience
Speaker 2: from the regular season experience. I am perfectly fine with
Speaker 2: playing out your regular season with seeding teams to the
Speaker 2: best of our ability, and then letting them hash it
Speaker 2: out on the field, whether it's a one game playoff
Speaker 2: or three game playoff, I am all for letting them
Speaker 2: decide it on the field. I hated the old system. Great, yeah,
Speaker 2: the old old system.
Speaker 1: Okay, so everybody plays a ball and then there's just time.
Speaker 3: I hated.
Speaker 2: I hated that it shouldn't be in the hands of
Speaker 2: sports riders to decide who is the national champion.
Speaker 1: To disagree, you should let them, thank you.
Speaker 2: You should let them play it out on the field
Speaker 2: and see who the best team is. So for my money,
Speaker 2: now I can't separate one from the other. You play
Speaker 2: your regular season to get into the playoff. Once you
Speaker 2: get into the playoff system, whatever that is, you got
Speaker 2: to win three games, two games, whatever in order to
Speaker 2: prove that you are the best team in the land.
Speaker 2: That's the way that this should work.
Speaker 1: Okay, But do you still agree, disagree whatever with if
Speaker 1: we go to something like eight first, Well, do you
Speaker 1: want it the best eight teams period or do you
Speaker 1: want autobids?
Speaker 2: I think we go conference champs and then three at
Speaker 2: large bids, one of which should should include or should
Speaker 2: try to include a group of five.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with the five conference champs, the best G
Speaker 1: five team, and the two at larges. And I'm okay
Speaker 1: with that because if you are truly an excellent team
Speaker 1: that happens to go up against another excellent team in
Speaker 1: your conference, you're probably still getting in. You're not being
Speaker 1: like Georgia would not be left out this year in
Speaker 1: that system. And I think we're still looking this as
Speaker 1: a TV event. We still want it to be relatively
Speaker 1: inclusive because of the Power five structure of teams that
Speaker 1: even if a Pac twelve team is not having great year,
Speaker 1: they're probably there's probably something about that Pac twelve team, like,
Speaker 1: for instance, once again Washington's defense this year that plays
Speaker 1: on a playoff level caliber. They're not a complete team.
Speaker 1: I think there is something about that that is interesting
Speaker 1: to me, and that would also get us Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 1: in the playoff this year, that would get us the
Speaker 1: Washington Secondary and that would get us UCF or whoever
Speaker 1: it is in any given year from the G five level.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm okay with that. You know, having
Speaker 1: the best teams it gets us into like a lot
Speaker 1: of rerun territory, and I'm not always the biggest fan
Speaker 1: of that. If this is still a TV event.
Speaker 3: You're losing me a little bit. But we're just gonna
Speaker 3: have to agree to this.
Speaker 2: Okay, here, I think I think you play the regular
Speaker 2: season to get to the playoff.
Speaker 3: You play the playoff to get the trophy.
Speaker 1: Okay, does UCF resemble a star intern thinking they should
Speaker 1: be ceo? Oh man, that's so mean wow? Or should
Speaker 1: they not be judged for refusing to play teams above
Speaker 1: their station? Is two years of greatness more important than
Speaker 1: prolonged success that comes from from schneids or Snid's on Twitter?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So what is your opinion of how UCF or any
Speaker 1: you know, Boise State, Houston, Fresno, San Diego State teams
Speaker 1: that have shown an ability to beat high level Power
Speaker 1: five teams, how they can make that leap under the
Speaker 1: current system.
Speaker 3: Under the current system, I think.
Speaker 1: No matter what, they're not going to be allowed in
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 2: Under the current system, it's just hard. It's skewed against UCF.
Speaker 2: And I'm not so much arguing for UCF as a
Speaker 2: M four, just this glaringly obvious situation that we're in
Speaker 2: where it's tough for any group of five team to
Speaker 2: break through.
Speaker 1: There was a story this week that UCF turned down
Speaker 1: Florida's offer for a two to one to play two
Speaker 1: games in Gainsville and one in Orlando, and everybody react
Speaker 1: to that like, well, it looks like they don't want
Speaker 1: to play with the big boys. Looks like they don't
Speaker 1: want to prove themselves against the best and do what
Speaker 1: it takes.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like we don't have context for.
Speaker 1: Any of that.
Speaker 3: We don't know.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what would happen if UCF scheduled
Speaker 1: the world If u CF scheduled Florida, and I think
Speaker 1: they already have scheduled Stanford, and they scheduled I don't know,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, really decent good whatever a mix of decent good.
Speaker 1: They scheduled you know, Penn State or Michigan State. Not
Speaker 1: the top top top but really strong non conference they
Speaker 1: would be number five. They would one hundred percent be
Speaker 1: number five at twelve and zero, beating Stanford, Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: and Michigan State or Florida whatever. Because people would then say, well,
Speaker 1: look the American is it's good, but it's not the
Speaker 1: Big twelve, it's not the Big ten. They would just
Speaker 1: find another reason. That's all it's going to come down to.
Speaker 2: This is, by the way, on brand one hundred percent
Speaker 2: for Florida to try and schedule a non conference opponent
Speaker 2: in the state of Florida.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they don't want to leave Florida. Why
Speaker 1: would you no? No right now? But that's that was
Speaker 1: like the reaction like, well, it looks like UCF doesn't know.
Speaker 1: That's so that's such a like a straw man wasted argument.
Speaker 1: So UCF probably needs to join a conference. Some conference
Speaker 1: needs to invite UCF, or some conference needs to invite
Speaker 1: Houston or Boise State or whoever, if they can prove
Speaker 1: over time, because otherwise it's just they're going to find
Speaker 1: another reason. That's all it is, all right, next question,
Speaker 1: next question. And I should also point out along these
Speaker 1: same lines type because people are always saying well, like UCF,
Speaker 1: they can't compete, or Houston can and compete. The difference
Speaker 1: in talent between a high, high level the best G
Speaker 1: five team and a good maybe not Alabama Clemson, but
Speaker 1: a really good Power five team doesn't exist. No, because
Speaker 1: those teams that are going eleven to one, twelve and
Speaker 1: zero are doing so because it's a you know, a
Speaker 1: conflation of developed talent transfers, really good coaching. And you look,
Speaker 1: you see in the NFL draft, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, some guy is from Houston. Fresno State. You know,
Speaker 1: at Oliver is a name that jumps out. He could
Speaker 1: have gone anywhere. But there's no difference in talent. You
Speaker 1: look at those Boise State teams. They can beat anybody.
Speaker 1: It's just they're in a different conference. That's all.
Speaker 3: All right, Where are we going next?
Speaker 1: Next? Let's go to I love this question from our
Speaker 1: new in person pal, Dan Klobishark.
Speaker 3: Yeah, clobh.
Speaker 1: The Lowry's beef Ball. Lowry's a primary place all over
Speaker 1: this country is a time honored Rose Bowl tradition, which
Speaker 1: as background, they bring both teams that are in the
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl in to Lowries to eat as much beef
Speaker 1: as they want and compare the poundage. What similar event
Speaker 1: could either of you compete in and do relatively well
Speaker 1: whatever relative to a college football player. Oh man, what
Speaker 1: single food do you feel like you could hang with
Speaker 1: your average I don't know, Michigan outside lineback. Pumpkin pie. Okay,
Speaker 1: pumpkin pie. This is what I would do, because I
Speaker 1: think it's more of a mentality than it is a
Speaker 1: physical thing, which I think you're right in selecting pumpkin
Speaker 1: pie for yourself. Yeah, if we could, just if there
Speaker 1: could be an event where you stand around a room
Speaker 1: and just or nerves are passed around. There is something
Speaker 1: about that experience that I could go for hours. Tie
Speaker 1: those little grilled cheese dippers, cocktail weenies, some nachos, quesadillas,
Speaker 1: you know, a wing or two. If that is the setup,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm an endurance athlete. I wanted my
Speaker 1: wedding to be all or dervs. Yeah, I would call
Speaker 1: this event either you've been dervd or app state. I
Speaker 1: would really make it a Upstate's pretty good. And it's
Speaker 1: just that it's more of the forum to me than
Speaker 1: it is the specific food. So if we could have
Speaker 1: bite sized or dirves passed around a room. I feel
Speaker 1: like I could hang with a big ten.
Speaker 3: What's your what's your order of power rating?
Speaker 1: What is my number one? If I saw it? You know,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm a taco guy, so there's sometimes mini tacos
Speaker 1: or tiktos with like a little guak dipper. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: I could, if you're like charring up caseity at triangles
Speaker 1: with a little bowl of gualk, that would be my
Speaker 1: number one. Love a meatball, cocktail, WEENI with mustard tenders.
Speaker 1: You see some tenders being passed or nuggies. I'm totally
Speaker 1: in that mood all the time. So yeah, any anything
Speaker 1: like in that zone. Egg rolls, egg rolls, spring rolls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting so hungry I could I could do some
Speaker 1: damage with punkin pie. Yeah really, So yours is more specific?
Speaker 1: Mind is more mood? Yeah, okay, where are we going next?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 1: Okay? So somebody asked the question for pure So it's eric,
Speaker 1: what's the best Bowl game for pure entertainment value for
Speaker 1: people who don't care about wins, points, weird schemes, offield shenanigans,
Speaker 1: Animals on the field. There's animals on the field, which
Speaker 1: I have a specific day actually December twenty eighth, I
Speaker 1: think that's the day I was looking at. I still
Speaker 1: have some scores on my schedule, skill.
Speaker 2: God, Perdue versus Auburn in the Music City Bowl, which
Speaker 2: I think actually is going to relate to another question
Speaker 2: that I saw in here.
Speaker 1: If we get to oh yeah, this is the day,
Speaker 1: You're right, you nailed this.
Speaker 2: West Virginia Syracuse and Washington State Iowa State. Yes, those
Speaker 2: three games, all of which I think could go either way.
Speaker 2: You should have a ton of points in West Virginia Syracuse,
Speaker 2: hopefully without Will Grear, without Will Rallison's I still think
Speaker 2: you'll have a lot of points. Washington State Iowa State's
Speaker 2: going to be a fun game, Like I have no
Speaker 2: confidence on which direction that one heads.
Speaker 1: In a dome in Arnmanshew for sure playing Brock Party
Speaker 1: and Washington State could have been that disappointment team. But
Speaker 1: I really do think I think Washington State is going
Speaker 1: to perform well on a stage in which I think
Speaker 1: there's no other game that's going to be on that
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be watching the out ball on ESPN. So
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that's a great, great
Speaker 1: slag and also Perdue Auburn. Someone else in here asked, us, Oh, here,
Speaker 1: it's mad. I see it.
Speaker 3: Which teams are at least motivated to be playing in
Speaker 3: their bowl game? I might.
Speaker 2: I brought this up on the first Bowl preview show.
Speaker 2: But you can make a real good case for Auburn
Speaker 2: against Perdue, and that would be a huge win for
Speaker 2: Perdue if they can knock off Auburn. They're not favored
Speaker 2: in that game, but I could see that one. You know, Auburn,
Speaker 2: do they really want to play Perdue? Jared Stidham's declared
Speaker 2: for the draft, Like, there are some atmospherics going on
Speaker 2: there that I could see working in Purdue's direction.
Speaker 1: I would I would jump. I would lump Michigan in there,
Speaker 1: a game away from winning the division, lost in the
Speaker 1: fashion in which they did. I saw a completely flat
Speaker 1: Michigan team last year in I think it was the
Speaker 1: outback ball against South Carolina and opponent wise playing Florida again,
Speaker 1: there's just there's nothing novel or exciting about Florida Michigan
Speaker 1: this year. So I would lump the Wolverines in there.
Speaker 2: And don't forget about the New Era Demotivation Bowl between
Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Miami.
Speaker 1: So at least they get to play in Yankee Stadium.
Speaker 1: There's at least the New York destination involved, and that's
Speaker 1: interesting and weird, and you're going to a very different
Speaker 1: place than Miami or Madison, Wisconsin. But in terms of
Speaker 1: how those two teams ended their.
Speaker 3: Season, we're just looking to get this over with, Doug.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think that's right.
Speaker 3: All right, where are we going next year?
Speaker 1: You're not heading to the Pinstripe BWL this year?
Speaker 3: No, not going this year.
Speaker 1: That's a shame. You still have your hat. I do
Speaker 1: have my hat. It's downstairs. Let's go to Okay, we've
Speaker 1: got a lot of questions about playoff stuff. Ooh, I
Speaker 1: love this question. Yeah. Best name of a bowl that
Speaker 1: no longer exists? Oh, that's easy. What is it?
Speaker 3: Blue Bonnet Bowl?
Speaker 1: Dan, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It used to be called the Astro blue Bonnet Bowl,
Speaker 2: I believe when it was played in the Astrodome, the
Speaker 2: State Flower of Texas.
Speaker 1: I believe the blue Bonnet Okay. I was a big
Speaker 1: fan of the Blockbuster Bowl, which might just have a
Speaker 1: new name. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's now the Outback Bowl.
Speaker 1: That could just be the Outback Bowl. But I specifically.
Speaker 1: Remember we used to go to Fort Lauderdale every winter
Speaker 1: and stay in I don't know, some hotel and I
Speaker 1: think the game was it was either in Miami, Fort
Speaker 1: Lot or wherever in that area. And I remember staying
Speaker 1: in the same hotel as like the marching band for
Speaker 1: one of the teams. I was like, all right, I've
Speaker 1: made it. Yeah, this is the show. I always enjoyed
Speaker 1: the Copper Bowl, So maybe I'm just going with old
Speaker 1: bowl names. I remember there used to be a Dixie Bowl,
Speaker 1: Yeah there was? Was there there were two Minicky car
Speaker 1: Minucky car Care Bowls. Yeah, I think one in North
Speaker 1: Charlotte one and so it was like the Miynikee car
Speaker 1: Care Bowl of.
Speaker 3: Texas, I believe so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I always liked saying the San Diego Credit
Speaker 1: San Diego County Credit Union Point Setia Bowl, right right.
Speaker 1: That game was always weird too, Yeah, would it would
Speaker 1: sometimes it would be two G five schools would be
Speaker 1: like TCU and Boise State were both top twenty. Wasn't
Speaker 1: it playing on December twenty first? You remember the one
Speaker 1: year Navy was in it and it was all flooded out,
Speaker 1: completely flooded. Yeah, I love how much of a pos
Speaker 1: that stadium still to this day is I've been to
Speaker 1: at least two Holiday Bowls. The Oregon games against the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma schools. I think it was a reht Bomar year
Speaker 1: when or did not win. Whoa yeah, yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was the Oklahoma state year was a. It was a
Speaker 1: des year and that game was so damn fun. So
Speaker 1: that is a fun game. The Holiday Bowl, which obviously
Speaker 1: still exists, there was a battle Frog sponsorship yep at
Speaker 1: one point.
Speaker 2: I want to say the Independence Bowl has had some
Speaker 2: really weird sponsors. Or they did the Duck Commander thing
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. They had the pull in
Speaker 2: Weed Eater sponsorship before that. Yeah, they're searching for weird sponsors.
Speaker 1: I do like that there have been Bowl games in
Speaker 1: cities that were selected for whatever reason. That just I
Speaker 1: remember Oregon was in the Seattle Bowl. Yeah, and Seattle
Speaker 1: is a great place. I love my time in Seattle.
Speaker 1: But if you're a Wake Forest fan, if you're a
Speaker 1: Minnesota fan, if you're a you know, Florida State fan,
Speaker 1: you find out your team's going to Seattle in December,
Speaker 1: I have a good TV.
Speaker 2: It made no sense, all right, Uh, next topic, let's go.
Speaker 3: We got two or three more questions here.
Speaker 1: Select whatever I mean. If the soliverbo sponsored a bowl,
Speaker 1: which two teams need to participate? Obviously it's the solid
Speaker 1: Ver Bowl, so it's Notame Oregon. Is there a backup
Speaker 1: common nation of teams that you would just like to
Speaker 1: see play each other that traditionally will never play each other,
Speaker 1: but would be forced to not necessarily this year, or
Speaker 1: it could be this year. Sure, Texas, Texas, A and
Speaker 1: M could be fun. I would say, yeah, I would
Speaker 1: if we could re you know, a West Virginia pit game,
Speaker 1: a Kansas Missouri game, if Kansas were decent, if we
Speaker 1: could rejoin a rivalry that has been snapped, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be pretty ideal. That'd be great. What would happen
Speaker 1: if a team with the elite talent ran the triple option? Oh?
Speaker 1: I like this question, Ty, what's your answer? Let's let's
Speaker 1: give it. Let's attack attach this to a Let's say
Speaker 1: ALBA eighteen elite talent team, not Alabama, but some say Michigan. Okay,
Speaker 1: Michigan's running the triple.
Speaker 3: Michigan's running the triple option.
Speaker 1: So are you just stapling the triple option with this
Speaker 1: year's team? Like they have Rashaan Gary and everybody else
Speaker 1: on defense already that's loaded in. Because that's that's the
Speaker 1: sort of problem with triple option teams and elite talent
Speaker 1: is it's hard to attract you know, you guys, I
Speaker 1: want to practice against it all the time. And offensively,
Speaker 1: it's tough to find a quarterback who can throw when
Speaker 1: needing to complete a pass when you're down five and
Speaker 1: nothing's happening on the ground late that's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's why the triple option is great. To just bring
Speaker 1: up your floor and bring up your ceiling, but it's
Speaker 1: crashing through the ceiling to me is the issue.
Speaker 2: This is why the Wildcat didn't have a longer lifespan
Speaker 2: in the NFL, right, you know, like it was cool
Speaker 2: for a while and then teams figured it out and
Speaker 2: it was like, Okay, no big deal anymore.
Speaker 1: Got to complete a pass, you got to give yourself
Speaker 1: options out of formations. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: not an option guy. I've never been. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: your Michigan season this year, with whoever running and maybe
Speaker 1: Dylan McCaffrey is a little bit more mobile, I think
Speaker 1: it looks very similar that Michigan would hit that ten
Speaker 1: and two ceiling something like that ten and two, eleven
Speaker 1: and one, nine and three. Like, I think your floor
Speaker 1: certainly is higher, but you do need to put string
Speaker 1: together drives where you don't have a lot of time
Speaker 1: and you need to throw the ball down field, and
Speaker 1: then you get into defensive recruiting issues. So to me,
Speaker 1: that is you're still on the precipice of playoff, but
Speaker 1: not quite breaking through.
Speaker 2: Final question here, and I'm sending this one over to you,
Speaker 2: big guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, this one comes to us from Nick.
Speaker 2: He says we invented a new holiday on New Year's
Speaker 2: Day called dip a Palooza, the idea being that a
Speaker 2: never ending parade of dips is perfect for Bowl watching.
Speaker 2: What are your go to dips? Needs some new recipes
Speaker 2: for twenty nineteen? Dan, What do you got so you
Speaker 2: do something similar to this?
Speaker 1: Right? For football competition? Food competition?
Speaker 2: I do something called a Super Bowl right where it's
Speaker 2: a soup off. Everyone cooks their favorite soup and then
Speaker 2: you vote on your favorite suits. But that's not a
Speaker 2: New Year's Day, right, But I do something similar.
Speaker 1: Do you have your soup chosen for twenty eighteen?
Speaker 2: Actually, might go with the one that you told me up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot as techa. I believe it's so as teca. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't have to help me cook that. By the way,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I know how.
Speaker 1: Oh you'll be great.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Dip a palooza is a wonderful idea because it's it
Speaker 1: gives you options, maybe a triple option enough. I would
Speaker 1: I would home make some hummus, even Coca Cola is,
Speaker 1: even though they're slandering hummus all season long and they're dumb,
Speaker 1: dumb commercial, I would go hummus. I would go gualk.
Speaker 1: I would like a red pepper type dip, like a
Speaker 1: puade red pepper, and you could play around with humm
Speaker 1: I if you so choose. Is that the plural form
Speaker 1: of hummus? I would yeah, I mean I'm just making
Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, I love a bean dip tie and
Speaker 1: technically hummus is that, but like a multi layered bean dip,
Speaker 1: but it can wreak havoc. You have you have to
Speaker 1: choose your company wisely if you're going to go in
Speaker 1: on a bean dip. Yeah, I would just really master
Speaker 1: guak and I have I think I've said this before
Speaker 1: My secret to guak is pea shoots. No, that was
Speaker 1: like a New York Times awful thing. My secret is
Speaker 1: I'll roast up a little bit of garlic because that
Speaker 1: gives it a little bit of sweetness and body. I'll
Speaker 1: tear it apart into little bits, and so that rounds
Speaker 1: out the acid and salt real nicely in aquak. And
Speaker 1: I also chill the guak in a fridge before I
Speaker 1: serve it. All right, do you have any dip ideas
Speaker 1: that you get very excited? I like a tetsiki. If
Speaker 1: there's like a warm peda option.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a taco dip tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But hey, what's in it?
Speaker 2: It's not nearly as sophisticated as any of the more
Speaker 2: gourmet options that I think you're discussing here. Mine just
Speaker 2: entails mixing together some sour cream and cream cheese.
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, no, you mix it together. Yeah, mix
Speaker 1: it together. My stomach is already reacting poorly.
Speaker 2: You you layer the base of like a foil pan with that, okay,
Speaker 2: Then on top of it you get just any your
Speaker 2: favorite kind of salsa port on top, and then you
Speaker 2: get taco cheese, like two bags of that taco cheese.
Speaker 1: Wow, and you sprinkle it on top, so are you
Speaker 1: melting it? And now you're not melt it?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, you get it cold and then you
Speaker 2: just get some scoops and and uh yeah, it's iuthentic Mexican.
Speaker 1: I love a French onion dip, real easy. Nobody ever
Speaker 1: hates on that. I think I saw some pre roll
Speaker 1: before a YouTube video for like a pizza ranch dip
Speaker 1: where they're a melting mozzarella over ranch and cream cheese
Speaker 1: and putting pet I just it's not doing it for me, ty,
Speaker 1: it's just not doing it for me to any other
Speaker 1: dips that you get excited about. Not much of a
Speaker 1: dalsas a dip. He'll make a salsa.
Speaker 3: No, not much of a dipper.
Speaker 1: How is that possible?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: Here's my question fundamentally, is buffalo chicken dip an actual
Speaker 1: dep or is it just stewed stewed chicken?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How much meat is? I feel like me, does it
Speaker 1: take for it to go over the top? I feel
Speaker 1: like it isn't. I think that's I think it's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a dep I think it's
Speaker 1: just a filling in a bowl.
Speaker 2: All right, well, we covered some ground here on this podcast.
Speaker 2: Thank you to everyone who wrote in with questions. We'll
Speaker 2: do our best to answer more over the course of
Speaker 2: the next days and weeks. Don't forget on Wednesday, gonna
Speaker 2: preview some more Bowl games and do our best, hopefully
Speaker 2: by the end of I guess next week to get
Speaker 2: through all the Bowl games so that you're ready. You've
Speaker 2: got some semblance of what's going to happen in these contests.
Speaker 2: We've got a bunch moving forward that we got to
Speaker 2: get through. I'm looking at the list here, only made
Speaker 2: a small dent in the totality of Bowl games.
Speaker 1: Yep, that is coming at you here over the next
Speaker 1: couple weeks.
Speaker 2: So by all means, please stay tuned to the verbal
Speaker 2: make sure that you are updating your confidence pools accordingly,
Speaker 2: sliding games around, mixing and matching, entering your winners. If
Speaker 2: you decide to change your mind, I've already changed my
Speaker 2: mind on a couple here. I'm about to just to
Speaker 2: the course of recording here, so we'll be back on Wednesday. Dan,
Speaker 2: thanks for waking up early with me here to record
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: For that go over there on.
Speaker 1: Beautiful New York City for myself today a little bit, catch.
Speaker 3: You all in a few days. Meantime, stay solid, Hi,